United States Environmental Protection Agency Energy, Minerals and Industry Office of Research and Development Washington D.C. 20460 EPA-600/9-78-041 December 1978 v/EPA The Section 11 Hearings V V ioo' The Public Reviews the Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research & Development Program ------- Foreword Section 11 of P.L. 93-577, the Nonnuclear Energy Research and Development Act of 1974, mandates an ongoing review of the Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research and Development Program to evaluate the adequacy of attention given to: • Energy conservation methods • Environmental protection and the environmental consequences of energy technologies. President Carter's reorganization transferred responsibility for this review from the Council on Environmental Quality to the Environmental Protection Agency. The Office of Energy, Minerals and Industry (OEMI) within EPA's Office of Research and Development has been assigned the job of conducting the review. One part of EPA's responsibilities under Section 11 is to hold yearly public hearings on the Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research and Development Program. This report summarizes the major topics discussed at the public hearing held March 29-31, 1978 in Washington, DC. The information presented at these hearings is a valuable mechanism for surfacing important problems and issues in federal nonnuclear energy research and development. EPA plans to improve the under- standing of these problems and issues, to confirm their significance, and to further explore their dimensions. We would greatly appreciate your comments on the issues presented in this report — or on other issues concerning adequacy of attention given to energy conservation and environmental protection in the nonnuclear research and development program. Please send your comments to: Francine Sakin Jacoff Office of Energy, Minerals and Industry (RD-681) U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Washington, DC 20460 .3 M Steven R. Reznek Acting Deputy Assistant Administrator for Energy, Minerals and Industry Editor: Francine Sakin Jacoff Text: Keith Bentz, Jan Runyan Illustrations: Jim Chaffee Graphic Support: Terrie Gibbons, Bill Lebut Technical Advisor: Dr. Carl B. Moyer ------- vvEPA The Section 11 Hearings U.S. Envirormental Protection Agency Begion 5, Library (5PL-1S) 230 S. Dearborn Street, Room 1670 Chicago, IL 60604 The Public Reviews the Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research & Development Program ------- ------- The Closing of the Petroleum Age "An era of the world's history is rapidly coming to a close. . although we have all witnessed some of the near term economic, political and environmental complications of the closing of the petroleum age, none of us can accurately forecast what the future has in store The energy crisis may mean a protracted and gradually worsening economic recession, lack of opportunity for our young people, and decreasing social mobility It may mean rapidly degrading environmental quality and exhausting our supplies of clean an, clean water, and productive land. On the other hand, the energy crisis may only mean that the cost of energy will rise to the point where widely available and environmentally benign sources will be used to meet society's economic and social needs." —Dr Stephen J Gage Environmental Protection Agency "A number of studies of world supplies of petroleum and demands for same have been completed recently. In the conclusions, all agree that the demand for petroleum will probably overtake supply sometime between 1985 and 1995." —Dr. William Jones Massachusetts Institute of Technology "Estimates of remaining recoverable conventional gas resources in the United States are in the range of 700 to 1200 trillion cubic feet or approximately 700 to 1200 quads of remaining gas that could be produced. Thus, at the current U S. consumption rate of about 20 Tcf per year of natural gas, there are between 35 and 60 years of conventional U.S. gas supplies remaining to be produced." —Dr Ben/amin Schlesmger American Gas Association Since the early 1900's, America has depended on oil and natural gas to meet our energy needs But today, with worldwide supplies of petroleum dwindling and costs escalating rapidly, experts predict that domestic natural gas will last 35 to 60 years at our current rate of consumption. Although supplies of oil are not as critically limited, we are already forced to import over 40 percent of our oil every year — making energy one of our country's most vulnerable resources. The facts are inescapable: we must begin to make crucial and very fundamental decisions about the manage- ment of our present energy resources and the future development of new energy sources. But deciding which sources of energy to develop is a more complex and difficult choice today than ever before. We are finally beginning to under- stand that a balance between energy development and environmental protection is critical to our nation's future. We now know that the choices we make about energy will have far-reaching effects on the overall health and welfare of our society. The solution to our country's energy and environmental problems is not at all clear. Still, we must choose — no matter how difficult the choices. Congress had already begun to realize the urgency of the energy challenge when it passed the Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research and Develop- ment Act of 1974. This legislation authorized the Energy Research and Development Administra- tion — now the Department of Energy — to spend nearly $2 billion per year on research, development, and demonstration of nonnuclear energy technologies. One important goal of this program is to provide both government and industry with accurate, detailed information on promising new energy sources. Without this kind of information, wise decisions about our energy future will be ------- gflfJV .;"' S^'- -ft*;''>;•-•; ------- "Annual public hearings shall be held on the conduct of energy research and development and the probable environmental consequences of trends in the development and application of energy technologies. The transcript of the hearings shall be published and made available to the public." —Section 11, Federal Nonnuclear Energy Research and Development Act of 1974 "The federal government today seems to be addressing both energy and the environment on the kind of either-or basis that promotes conflicts, instead of solutions . .We have institutionalized our differences by setting up separate jurisdictions to handle what in the real world are interrelated problems." —Mr Jackson Browning Union Carbide Corporation "l believe a decision strategy in which environ- mental issues play an equal role with technology feasibility and economic costs would be most useful. . . I also believe there is an increased need for interagency cooperation and coordination." —Dr Chester P. Richmond Oak Ridge National Laboratory ". . .there needs to be a greater broad public involvement in the initial process of RD&D decisionmaking and a greater communication to the various publics after the protects are com- pleted — and I should^ indicate, in a form which they can understand." —Dr. Roger Caldwell University of Arizona impossible. Another vital goal of the nonnuclear energy program is to give the public a meaningful voice in deciding how our nation's future energy needs will be met. For it is the public who will ultimately enjoy the benefits of wise energy choices — or be forced to pay the price for unwise decisions. At the 1978 Section 11 Hearings, some 45 witnesses from a wide range of industries, universities, environmental groups, and state and federal governments presented their views to panel members from EPA, CEO, and a number of state and local agencies. Although the specific purpose of the hearings is to gather public testimony on energy conservation and environmental protection, many witnesses went beyond these topics to discuss fundamental questions on the whole process of energy research and development. One of these issues was the need for much greater cooperation between the Department of Energy and environmental agencies at the federal, state, and local levels. Another was the importance of greatly increased public involvement at every stage of the energy/environmental decisionmaking process — from planning through commercializa- tion. Of special concern among a great many witnesses was the need to build a broad public consensus in support of the energy choices we make. The Section 11 Hearings are only one step towards building the understanding, involvement, and consensus we need to make wise energy choices for the future. As the following pages clearly demonstrate, what is needed is open communication and cooperation between all of us — government and industry, energy producers and environmentalists, technical experts and concerned citizens — to solve America's energy and environmental problems. ------- ------- Debating Our Energy Options "/ find what appear to me to be perfectly credible professionals disagreeing all over the place on most of these new technologies." —Dr. Don Kash University of Oklahoma "We are told, often condescendingly, that conserva- tion of energy is all well and good, but that we still need to produce energy. We agree, but we hasten to add that the problem facing the United States, at least, is not one of insufficient energy. Rather, it is one of tapping enough energy sources soon enough at acceptable economic, social and environmental costs Conservation buys the time to permit this. . to develop the options that we have available now, or which we can see iust over the horizon." —Mr Sheldon Kmsall National Wildlife Federation "Now, we hear of many proposals for saving of energy, saving of gas, saving of oil, conservation, improving efficiency, but. . .the near term must rely on improvement of developed or nearly-developed technologies if the results are to be a substantial help in the next few decades. . .There is an economic need to get on quickly with the expanded use of coal, to keep our industrial machine and our national fiscal position healthy. ..' —Mr. Earle C. Miller Charles T. Mam, Inc. ".. .most DOE and private research has placed emphasis on determining technical feasibility with little truly integrated environmental assessment efforts." —Mr. Kevin Markey Friends of the Earth Before we can make sound decisions about our nation's energy future, we must carefully weigh the advantages and disadvantages of the options available to us. As the testimony presented at the hearings eloquently demonstrates, there is wide- spread disagreement today over which energy options are viable. Many of the witnesses who testified are extremely well-informed people, whose professional lives are involved in studying energy technologies and planning how to meet our country's future needs. Yet among these experts, there was a striking lack of consensus on which technologies can supply us with reliable, environmentally safe energy to replace natural gas and petroleum. Likewise, there was no clear agreement among the witnesses on the emphasis that the Department of Energy should be placing on either energy conservation or environmental protection. Some witnesses argued persuasively that stepping up energy conservation could greatly extend our supplies of petroleum and buy us years to develop alternate energy sources. Others dismissed energy conservation efforts as entirely inadequate to solve the problem and urged the Department of Energy to pour its resources into making new large- scale energy technologies operational as quickly as possible. A majority of witnesses criticized the Department of Energy for a lack of carefully planned and integrated environmental assessments of new energy processes. On the other hand, a few stated that we cannot afford to slow down the develop- ment of new energy technologies with environ- mental considerations because of the danger of creating an even more devastating energy emergency than the 1973 oil embargo. According to this second viewpoint, if an energy crisis brings ------- ------- "Let's not hold up development of badly needed energy technologies until we have developed environmental protection technologies. Alter all, the best environmental protection equipment in the world is no good if there isn't an adequate energy supply to operate it " —Mr. Ronald Wishart Union Carbide Corporation "When it comes to energy and environment, the nation can't afford confusing directions or the present policy of institutionalizing our differences. Both legislation and regulation need to be written and administered with the realization that energy and environment are part of the same organic system." —Mr. Jackson Browning Union Carbide Corporation "DOE programs still suffer from an overemphasis on high technology protects, such as synthetic fuels, fission, and fusion. . . .although the numbers have changed somewhat, the overall flavor of the energy research program has not It is still biased toward nuclear over nonnuclear options, energy supply over conservation options, and high technology, central/zed protects over distributed energy options." —Mr John Abbotts Public Interest Research Group ". . .enormous savings in energy are available to the U.S. right now, derived from modest changes in energy consumption habits, using off-the-shelf hardware, and in applications of proven technologies " —Mr. Cecil Phillips The Georgia Conservancy the wheels of society to a halt, all environmental issues will be irrelevant anyway — at least temporarily. Therefore, we had better be sure of our energy supplies, and worry about making them environmentally safe once they're in place. It is clear from all these conflicting viewpoints that there is no one simple solution to our nation's energy future. With technical experts in obvious disagreement — often promoting a favored technology to the exclusion of others — there seems to be a real need to arrive at a more balanced point of view. Many witnesses sug- gested that the only way to achieve this is to involve all the people who will be affected by decisions on energy research and development. Energy Conservation During the hearings, the Department of Energy came under criticism for placing too much emphasis — and spending too much money — on developing a few large-scale energy technologies, and far too little on energy conservation. Several witnesses pointed out that, even by conservative estimates, effective programs of energy conserva- tion could save as much as 10 to 20 percent of the energy we consume each year. Thus, in ignoring energy conservation, it was felt that the Department of Energy is neglecting a strategy that could supply up to one-fifth of our energy needs — simply by limiting consumption. Many witnesses felt that these energy savings could be realized at a cost far less than that of developing a new energy technology capable of meeting 20 percent of our demands. At the same time, witnesses recognized that implementing an effective nationwide program of energy conservation will not be simple. Even with ------- \ • v ; S/'l \ r tarn \ k-'' -: \\ •^HVf^^A v;^,l/^Sl^ \ "."'^JB. iKsii „//'..,".\>f ------- " The energy industry, the universities, the various levels of government have all failed to prepare this nation for the impending scarcities of oil and natural gas. . . . We have created a man in the street who takes energy for granted — who is incredulous and acutely suspicious of anyone who tries to advise him that the nation's fuel tank is getting low. He automatically assumes that if any changes in his energy consumptive habits are forced upon him, he will suffer some kind of agonizing or fatal withdrawal symptoms." —Mr. Cecil Phillips The Georgia Conservancy " Too much emphasis is being placed on a few energy supply efforts, and too little on develop- ing new ways of using energy more efficiently. In areas from agriculture to architecture there are many things which could be accelerated to reduce demand and still maintain our standard of living." —Mr. Sheldon Kmsall National Wildlife Federation "I think federal buildings could and should be show- cases for conservation, for solar, and for the use of alternative technologies. I don't see that happen- ing quickly enough today." —Dr. Ronald Doctor California Conservation Development Commission "There is a powerful element of citizens who want to conserve energy and who will be effective, but these people have largely been overlooked in present federal and state programs. The people I'm referring to are home craftsmen. . . .These are people who are saying, 'Help us to help ourselves.' They need simple information that is technically sound and tested, offered by sympathetic teachers " —Mr. William Partington Florida Conservation Foundation all the publicity given to the energy crisis, many Americans continue to behave as though our supplies of energy are unlimited. In spite of rising costs of gasoline, fuel oil, electricity, and natural gas, most people have not made significant changes in their driving habits or the amount of energy they use in their homes. Some unions and trade organizations have even come out against energy conservation on the grounds that it will cause unemployment and business slowdowns. Several witnesses agreed that rather than working to change these attitudes, the Department of Energy is in fact encouraging them by largely ignoring energy conservation in its research and development budget. Instead, witnesses said, the Department of Energy should be taking the lead in promoting conservation by using federal buildings as showcases for energy-saving projects, and by developing a much more extensive program of public education and technology transfer. Specific suggestions included small grants to local govern- ments and public interest groups for energy conservation projects, and workshops for architects, engineers, and builders on ways to increase energy efficiency. Expanded research efforts were also recommended as a way of exploring energy conservation in the context of economic, environ- mental, and technical factors. Other witnesses felt that stronger measures than education and technology transfer are going to be needed to alter our ingrained habits and attitudes. Insulation, weather stripping, passive solar design, more efficient heating systems, storm doors and windows are all well-known ways of saving energy that will more than pay for themselves in a few years. Yet, most builders still do not include these energy-saving features in their construction — and consumers do not demand them. In the opinion of 11 ------- ------- "The public remains unconvinced of the need to conserve energy at the cost of personal incon- venience, unconvinced that it is wise to invest in new technologies. The giants of the energy industry are not in a position to profit from conservation or the utilization of renewable energy sources. . .As a consequence, despite the risks, we must turn increasingly to coercive tools of governance, combined with subsidies and per- suasion, to wrench ourselves free of an entrenched system of energy supply." —Mr. Jonathan Lash Natural Resources Defense Council "For DOE and EPA contracting mechanisms have progressively deteriorated to a state wherein they scarcely work at all. While there appears to be an adequate mechanism for launching massive under- takings or buying a zillion pens, there is no mechanism for dealing with, .the small business or the creative individual. .Contract award times of eight months to a year, after a twelve-month planning period, are not uncommon. To initiate an unsolicited program is almost impossible, and I've even been told that certain programs were simply too small to be worth doing the paperwork on. Obviously, none of these impasses are pertinent to energy and environmental problems which need solutions." —Dr. Boyd Riley Consultant ". . .the 79 budget authorizes $1,217,000,000 for nuclear energy. . . .we plan to spend about $620 million in 79 on coal research and production, some of it to make the use of coal less polluting. .. And on renewable resources, which we will not be able to exploit unless we begin while we still have inexpensive sources of energy, the 79 budget allows only $400 million, including $27 million for biomass. It seems a tragic ordering of priorities which, if held to in succeeding years, will close off the renewable option and leave us only a nuclear future for as long as it lasts " —Ms. Ellen Winchester Sierra Club more than one witness, the only effective way to put energy conservation into practice is through "coercion": laws that require energy conservation measures, with stiff penalties for those who fail to obey. As an example of success of this kind of "coercion," one witness cited EPA's regulation requiring recycling of paper in federal buildings. This single measure is now saving the government over $90,000 each month. Another institutional barrier to energy conserva- tion pointed out by several witnesses is the endless red tape involved in dealing with the Department of Energy and other federal agencies. Cumbersome contracting mechanisms and formidable bureau- cracies make it next to impossible for anyone but large corporations to do business with the government. Since many energy conservation opportunities are available to individual architects and engineers or small businesses, the unwieldi- ness of the federal structure excludes a great number of chances for putting energy conservation to work. Along with specific recommendations for energy conservation measures, many witnesses spoke in favor of an expanded program and budget for solar and other renewable sources of energy, with an implicit plea for more energy conservation These witnesses strongly criticized the Department of Energy's priorities as being heavily weighted in favor of nuclear and fossil fuel technologies. This attitude, they argued, assumes that energy consumption is something over which we have no control — leaving us no choice but to meet energy demands, no matter how fast they grow. In reality, however, we can effectively control the amount of energy America uses through conservation. This — in the view of many witnesses — will leave the door open to a wide range of energy options for the 13 ------- ------- . this process of energy development should not be allowed to wipe out unique ecological resources on which our society is going to depend in the future. We iust do not have that right to throw those things away on a short term basis ..." —Mr. William Chandler Nature Conservancy "We see a serious lack of sensitivity to environ- mental issues in the Department of Energy...." —Mr. Sheldon Kmsall National Wildlife Federation "Even with the best available control technology, coal is polluting. . It imposes on society long- term health stresses that are not yet well understood. CC>2 from its effluents may cause disastrous climate change," —Ms. Ellen Winchester Sierra Club ". . .Federally sponsored research should not be exclusively devoted to questions of technical feasibility. Environmental assessment should be made a fundamental part of any major energy R&D effort." —Mr. Kevin Markey Friends of the Earth We need to ask ourselves if zero-impact-on-the- environment is a viable environmental goal, or an unrealistic roadblock to the development of new technologies." —Mr. Ronald Wishart Union Carbide Corporation future by giving us more time to experiment and explore. By ignoring conservation, many witnesses felt that we are narrowing our energy choices by dangerously limiting the amount of time we have to choose. Environmental Protection Every witness at the 1978 Section 11 Hearings agreed that we must protect our environment. There was also agreement that protecting our environment cannot be allowed to jeopardize reliable supplies of energy. What must be achieved is a balance between energy production and environmental protection. But there was sharp disagreement over how and when we can reach this goal. Many witnesses criticized the Department of Energy for rushing ahead with development of energy supply technologies without paying enough attention to environmental protection. They argued that the environmental dangers of some tech- nologies — especially coal and oil shale — are potentially so great that we owe it to future generations to investigate health and ecological effects thoroughly before committing ourselves to any large-scale investment in them For technologies that could do extensive environmental damage, witnesses urged the Department of Energy to give environmental assessments equal considera- tion with the process of technology development. Some witnesses disagreed. They said that we cannot afford the luxury of equal emphasis on environmental protection when our nation faces possible crippling shortages of energy within the next decade. According to these witnesses, we must push ahead with the development of new sources, even if we have to compromise on environmental quality in the near term. If we delay 15 ------- ------- "Research to ensure protection of environment and human health must be initiated during the early stages, and I emphasize early stages, of process conception and continued through operation of demonstration facilities." —Dr Chester Ft Richmond Oak Ridge National Laboratory "One of our pro/ects is to design, construct and operate a coal gasification and demonstration plant in Illinois. . . .We were going to break ground to start this project this coming summer, but we have been advised by EPA Region 5 that we must submit a PSD application for a construction permit — and that no way would exemptions be considered, regardless of the R&D nature of the plant, its small size, or its limited testing period of three years. . . . we are probably going to have to delay construc- tion. . It does seem a shame when the objective is to develop means to use Illinois high sulfur coal in an environmentally acceptable manner " —Mr Richard Jortberg Commonwealth Research Corporation "The early development of our nation's energy future requires a balanced assessment of the public health risks associated with various alternative systems and technologies. There is not currently available sufficient information concerning poten- tial health risks concerning coal utilization, and many other types of nonnuclear energy tech- nologies, to conduct such a balanced assessment " —Dr. Offo Raabe University of California ". .we may talk about the added cost to the rate payers of providing the best available control technology for various types of pollutants, but that must be measured against the cost to the general public of the health effects if those control technologies are not implemented." — The Honorable Andrew Maguire Member of Congress from New Jersey in implementing new technologies, we may get caught in an emergency situation that will force us to do even worse damage to the environment in the long run. The same conflict was expressed in discussions of demonstration plants for new energy tech- nologies. Several witnesses urged that basic environmental questions about new technologies be answered before any demonstration plants are built — and that the only way to accomplish this is through comprehensive preconstruction environ- mental impact statements. Others countered that we can't wait to build demonstration facilities until all the environmental facts are in, especially since one of the purposes of these plants is to generate information on environmental impacts. Along with these general opinions on the Department of Energy's basic approach to environ- mental protection, many witnesses made specific recommendations for solutions to environmental problems. Several called for more stringent controls for fine particulates, and funds to develop better control devices for hydrocarbon and sulfur emissions. There was a strong plea for integrating in-depth biomedical research into the process of developing new energy technologies. One witness recommended a biological survey of the whole United States, similar to the U.S. geological survey. Another witness suggested a review panel of government, industry, and scientific community leaders to evaluate health and environmental impacts of all new energy technologies. Witnesses were concerned that not enough attention has been paid to the broad socio- economic effects of a polluted environment. Some called for an assessment of the total cost to the general public of adverse health effects if controls are not implemented on new energy tech- 17 ------- ------- we do not avoid paying for environmental damage. It may not be noticeable, it may not seem to affect us personally, but nature will balance the books, nonetheless." —Mr. Sheldon Kmsall National Wildlife Federation "One of the problems that is endemic to improving environmental performance of our technologies is a lack of market incentive to do so. .there is no profit motive that I know of in producing a cleaner technology " —Dr Steven Reznek Environmental Protection Agency "We must not compromise or mortgage the future health of our citizens and their environment while we strive to achieve energy independence The nation must learn how to use its collective wisdom to decide what level of potential harm or detriment is socially acceptable in exchange for the energy produced to sustain the needs of our industry, our cities, and a/1 our numerous institutions " —Dr. Chester Ft Richmond Oak Ridge National Laboratory "For the foreseeable future, our electric power needs can be met by only two basic energy sources: coal and nuclear." —Mr Robert Humphries Georgia Power Company "The future, beginning in a very few years, will feature a much more diverse mix of energy sources than in the past. The commercial energy sector will have to operate with biomass burners, wind- mills, mini-hydro (under 10 MW), direct solar, and various other things, in addition to oil, gas, coal, nuclear, and big hydro (and geothermal where possible)." —Dr. Marshal Mernam University of California nologies — especially coal-burning plants. The message was that in making a cost/benefit analysis of any new energy technology, we must not lose sight of the broad economic impact of public health hazards. In addition, the Department of Energy was urged to provide financial incentives to industry to encourage private sector development of new pollution control technologies. This kind of support, it was thought, would remedy the lack of market incentive that has slowed down efforts to improve environmental performance of control technologies. Witnesses at the hearings clearly recognized that a goal of zero impact on the environment is unrealistic as we switch to new sources of energy Some trade-offs between energy production and the environment are inevitable. The right course seems to be to strike a balance between energy and environmental concerns. This we can do only by having representatives of both sides fully involved in deciding our energy/environmental future. Energy Technologies Many witnesses used their time at the hearings to argue in favor of developing particular energy technologies. The Department of Energy was urged to devote more research and development funds to virtually every new energy technology of any significance — coal gasification, solar energy, oil shale, biomass, thermionic conversion, power cells, wind energy, coal liquefaction, and a number of others. In general, these pleadings reflected a basic disagreement over whether our country should be encouraging the "hard" or the "soft" technologies. The "hard" technologies discussed included large-scale centralized electric power technologies: coal, synthetic fuels from coal, oil shale, and large- scale solar electricity generating plants. These 19 ------- /> ------- '. .coal must be used in the near and medium term to satisfy the energy requirements of the United States economy." —Mr. Richard H. Demmy Roy F. Weston, Inc. "The Carter Administration's total solar budget of $400 million is $40 million below the 'minimum realistic' budget, and Administration officials have not been able to develop a sound rationale for this miserly funding level. . . .DOE should dramatically increase its solar funding. . ." —Mr. John Abbotts Public Interest Research Group . our nation's ground water resources are between 20 and 30 times greater than our surface water resources. They have been underutilized, primarily due to lack of education. . .We have a sleeping giant in energy available tens of feet below the earth that can be utilized directly as a nonnuclear fuel. ..." —Dr Jay Lehr National Water Well Association "The government needs to encourage additional development and demonstration of aboveground (oil shale) retorting processes. ..." —Dr. Thomas Sladek Colorado School of Mines Research Institute '. . oil shale. . is probably the last place on this earth we have to begin looking for new energy because of the amount of land disturbed to supply a very limited amount of synthetic oil...." —Mr. John McCormick Environmental Policy Center technologies require large capital investment, are designed to supply energy to meet any demand, and — except for large-scale solar — they involve more severe environmental problems than oil and natural gas. They also produce large amounts of waste heat. The advantage of these technologies is that we already know a lot about them. Our country has decades of experience in designing, building, and operating large-scale centralized power systems. We know what they will cost. What's more, much of the necessary delivery system is already in place. By contrast, the "soft" technologies are small- scale and dispersed, and individual units require a much lower capital investment. They include small- scale solar, wind, biomass, and geothermal. "Soft" technologies are generally assumed to be far cleaner and less polluting than "hard" technologies, and do not produce large amounts of waste heat. They work on renewable sources of energy, rather than our finite reserves of fossil fuels. In addition, "soft" technologies tend to emphasize limiting energy consumption through conservation and recycling. However, along with these obvious advantages, "soft" technologies have a major drawback: we have little experience with them. This means that questions of cost — and of long-range efficiency and reliability — remain unanswered. Witnesses in favor of the "hard" technologies repeatedly argued that they are the only tech- nologies that we can implement fast enough to meet our nation's energy needs. They claimed that if we fail to develop coal — and to a lesser extent oil shale — we may face very serious energy shortages. To some witnesses, this danger is so grave that we should be willing to relax our environmental standards until we get these 21 ------- ------- ". . .our problem of energy supply is not an 'either or'. It is not we do coal gasification and we don't do everything else. We need a/most everything. Let's pin down coal gasification It looks like an easy one." —Mr. George Bolton Columbia LNG Corporation "if this country ever expects to be less dependent upon foreign oil, gasohol is the fastest, least expensive, and cleanest way to do it." —Mr. Richard Merritt Representing Nebraska Agricultural Products Industrial Utilization Committee "Energy storage is the most direct and clear path to upgrade the entire national electrical system. While not as glamorous as replacing all of the older systems with some new space age power systems, it offers major energy conservation benefits. " —Dr. William J Lang Strata Power Company ' . . .thermionic technology offers the potential for increased fossil fuel powerplant conversion efficiencies to 50 percent or more. . . .such an improvement, .could result in an energy conservation equivalent to about three billion barrels of oil annually. .it is essential that the federal government increase the priority given to the development of thermionic central station topping units." —Dr Vic F Russo Ad Hoc Committee on Thermionic Energy Conversion "The risks are less from a premature turn to solar and other renewable energy sources than from an effort to ride the present system until it collapses " —Mr Jonathan Lash Natural Resources Defense Council technologies on-line, and then worry about making them environmentally safe. On the other hand, witnesses who argued for developing the "soft" technologies stressed that these technologies will provide inexhaustible supplies of energy without all the environmental pitfalls of coal and oil shale. Granted they are new, uncertain — technically untried Nevertheless, if we are willing to commit enough money to research and development now, we can solve these problems. Many witnesses reiterated that there is no need to wait decades — that in fact, considering the unsolved environmental dangers of coal and oil shale, we have no choice but to speed the develop- ment of soft technologies. As this testimony indicates, energy and environ- mental experts strongly disagreed throughout the hearing over which energy options we should develop — and how rapidly. Some even disagreed over whether or not we should keep all of our options open. Several witnesses felt that economic and political considerations should limit the number of options we choose to develop. Considering this diversity of opinion, the fundamental issue in energy research and development seems to be not what to decide, but how to decide. Equally important is to ensure that our energy choices — besides being technically sound — will have the public support they need to be put into effect. 23 ------- ------- Working Towards a Common Goal "/ would say that the strategic aspects of present efforts on conservation are reminiscent of a nineteenth-century military predeliction for the frontal assaults. They amount to a frontal assault directly upon perceived energy wastes. They do not incorporate the more subtle and more powerful aspects of strategy that bring indirect forces into play." —Dr. Charles A, Berg Consultant "The tendency is to emphasize needs that are easiest to identify and define, that is, knowledge and data needs .specific 'hard science' disciplines, particular technologies, or specific on- going programs. . . .Much more attention needs to be given to the policy and decision sciences " —Dr. Irvin White University of Oklahoma "We have much new knowledge, but the complex interactions have created a greater lack of under- standing even with this new knowledge. For example, acceptable estimates of energy use in the year 2020 range from several times that of today to less than that currently used." —Dr. Roger Caldwell University of Arizona "Energy decisions in this society require building a consensus and building a political consensus. . . . the broader public is now demanding that it be rung in on the process of decis/onmakmg with regard to these new technologies." —Dr. Don Kash University of Oklahoma In the face of disagreement among experts in the field of energy and the environment, how can we best decide which energy technologies to develop? What role should the Department of Energy play in the decisionmaking process? What is the most productive role for federal, state, and local environ- mental agencies and advocate groups to play in relation to the Department of Energy? The Role of the Department of Energy Since its founding, the Department of Energy has focused on technical research and develop- ment, and several witnesses stressed the need for this kind of information. But there was general agreement at the hearings that more and better technical information alone cannot tell us all we need to know to make the right decisions about our nation's energy future. For one thing, we will inevitably have to make choices without all the facts — whether they are facts on cost, on environmental effects, or on technical feasibility. In addition — as these hearings clearly show — many energy and environ- mental professionals simply do not agree on the conclusions to be drawn from these facts. This makes the difficult choices we face even harder to resolve, since these conflicts leave the public with no clear basis for choosing among energy alternatives. This emphasizes one of the major themes of the 1978 Section 11 Hearings: the need for a way of making decisions about our energy and environ- mental future that the majority of people can understand, trust, and accept. For without public understanding and support, the most promising energy technologies could die in the commercial- ization stage. 25 ------- ------- "Our society has repeatedly opted for technological fixes, because they offer the opportunity to solve problems without having to face the difficult social and political choices implicit in strategies that require changing human attitudes and behavior. . there has been far too little emphasis on producing reliable, credible information about the environmental-social-economic impact of new technologies...." —Dr. Don Kash University of Oklahoma "It appears to us that DOE needs a stronger dose of Madison Avenue in its thinking. When you've got a new product available, you don't lust put it in the warehouse; you go out and promote it." —Mr Cecil Phillips The Georgia Conservancy ".. .DOE has no effective means for marketing, technology transfer, or public dissemination of information or technologies it helps develop. Its activities seem to be limited to academic confer- ences and NTIS publications. Commercialization will require a more active approach." —Mr. Kevin Markey Friends of the Earth ".. .there's an institutional selling yob that's got to be done; there's a public information campaign that's got to be undertaken in conjunction with the tech- nology demonstration." —Dr. Ronald Doctor California Conservation Development Commission To solve this problem, many witnesses recom- mended that the Department of Energy expand its traditional role beyond technical research and development to include badly needed research on the social, political, and economic effects of energy technologies In addition, witnesses emphasized the need for research into the decisionmaking process itself. We are confronting choices that will undoubtedly have profound effects on the whole fabric of American society. Yet we know very little about how to make the soundest possible decision in the face of incomplete information — or how to ensure that our choices — once made — will be accepted. Closely related was the emphasis a number of witnesses placed on the need for taking a much more active part in overcoming institutional barriers that stand in the way of new energy technologies The Department of Energy was asked repeatedly to step outside its strictly technical role and deal directly with the habits and attitudes that may prevent much-needed changes from taking place. It was argued — and persuasively — that barriers like mistrust of new technologies or reluctance to change lifestyle could well cancel out the effects of years of technical research. Specific suggestions for overcoming institutional barriers focused on the need to make information about new energy technologies available to the public through an active and widespread program of education. Many witnesses recommended that the Department of Energy set up classes and conferences all over the country to explain energy technologies — not only to engineers, but also to legislators, manufacturers, architects, builders, and the general public. A National Energy Data Center was suggested to provide access to consistent, credible technical information for all interested 27 ------- ------- "Consumer attitudes can change only slowly . . where consumers are not yet convinced that there's any crisis, that there's any need to change, or that the new technologies are viable." —Mr. Jonathan Lash Natural Resources Defense Council 'The goal of RD&D can no longer be regarded simply as the production of new technology, but rather the production of information useful for energy-related decisionmakmg." —Dr. Don Kash University of Oklahoma ". . .providing credible information. . appropriate to the user of that information, .is by far the highest priority level activity. —Dr. Donald Anderson Mid-American Solar Energy Center "Our study of the National Energy Plan and the 1979 energy RD&D budget gives us the impression that a great deal of work is being done in bits and pieces. . .We do not see a concerted effort to pull these pieces together into a cogent, strategic attack on the energy problem itself and on some of its directly related problems — the economy, the environment, and national security." —Mr. Cecil Phillips The Georgia Conservancy people. In addition, more than one witness called for an aggressive public information campaign to promote new energy technologies through TV programs, tours, and demonstration facilities all over the United States. Although specific recommendations varied, the general message from many witnesses at the hearings was clear: it is not enough for the Department of Energy to limit itself to technical research and development. The situation has changed. We can no longer sit back and wait for attitudes to evolve and new technologies to slowly replace old ones. The Department of Energy must make a concerted effort to understand the public's needs, and to provide people with information on their energy alternatives. Although this expanded mission raises funda- mental questions about the role of government in our society, the fact that so many witnesses called for it suggests a widespread feeling that energy research and development is being carried out in a vacuum, out of touch with the user community — the general public. In particular, there emerged the deep conviction that the Department of Energy — or somebody — needs to step in and bridge this gap. Before it becomes unbridgeable. The Role of Environmental Regulation Along with specific suggestions for expanding the role of the Department of Energy, witnesses also had a clear and consistent message for the Environ- mental Protection Agency and other environmental agencies at the federal, state, and local levels. The essence of this message was that there is a critical need for much greater cooperation and coordination between the Department of Energy 29 ------- ------- "Although energy and environmental goals are strongly interrelated, the government mechanisms we have set up to achieve them are not . .We have environmental specialists pushing for the environmental goals, energy specialists pushing for energy goals and no apparent mechanism for taking the broader view that might productively resolve these differences." —Mr. Jackson Browning Union Carbide Corporation ". .somebody makes a decision to stop and then they find out that the environmental problems are such that they could have been go. So then they go to go and then the environmental constraints are such that we have to go to stop. . .you get half-way through and then the rules change It is difficult, needless to say." —Mr John Rigg Consultant, Oil Shale Industry "The emphasis of EPA's strategies. . should be on the prevention of adverse effects, not under- taking an endless series of studies which delay effective action. ..." — The Honorable Andrew Maguire Congressman from New Jersey ". . .environmental issues must be addressed con- currently with the process development. . . .there has to be an equal partnership between those responsible for environmental protection and the process development within DOE " —Dr. Chester R Richmond Oak Ridge National Laboratory and regulatory authorities at every level. Energy and the environment are now clearly seen as two closely interwoven issues. Yet — as the hearings show — the agencies we have created to deal with them are perceived to be operating with little or no knowledge of what the other is doing. Some even see the agencies as rivals, frequently at odds with each other. Environmental agencies are seen as dragging their feet and throwing unproductive roadblocks in the way of energy development in the form of erratic and unrealistic regulations. At the same time, the Department of Energy is seen as marching ahead with energy development without any real concern for environmental consequences. The solution was clear to a number of witnesses: the Department of Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency, and other agencies must begin working together much more closely at every stage in the development of new energy technologies. In this way, the environmental impacts of new technologies can be assessed and pollution controls designed, built, and tested from the beginning of development, rather than being added later. As part of building a more cooperative and productive relationship with the Department of Energy, witnesses also recommended that the Environmental Protection Agency and other agencies take on a more positive role than they now play. Stress was placed on the need for greater consistency in developing and enforcing pollution control regulations. In addition, witnesses suggested more realistic standards and lead times for untried energy technologies, complaining that stringent regulations can discourage innovation and slow down development. All in all, there was a call for environmental agencies to work as partners with the Department of Energy in finding ways to produce the energy 31 ------- ------- "A long-range research program of health and environmental evaluation should be effectively integrated with the evolving tecnnologies " —Dr. Eliahu Salmon Resources tor the Future, Inc. . . .this situation calls for a close working relation- ship between DOE and EPA in order that pending regulations and those which are being contem- plated. . .can become a part of the thinking within DOE as it designs new programs to be included in future budgets . . . The public will become more disenchanted with federal participation in energy research programs if it becomes aware of expensive technologies being abandoned in mid- stream as new pollution standards require emissions the technology cannot meet." —Mr John McCormick Environmental Policy Center ". .there's an enormous lack of communication across the country, despite established institutions that are supposed to communicate results from state to state or from state to federal government and back The communication links don't seem to work effectively." —Dr. Ronald Doctor California Conservation Development Commission America needs without endangering our environ- ment. For the proponents of energy development and environmental protection to be perceived as adversaries can only delay the process of choosing clean, safe energy sources for the future. It was felt that such an image cannot help but confuse the public and cause suspicion and distrust of any new energy technology. This reinforced the con- clusion that a good working relationship between the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy is essential to the process of gaining public support for our energy choices. 33 ------- ------- Building a Consensus "Labor, industry, federal and state agencies, and environmentalists. . must be brought into the discussions about actions and measures that have to be considered for environmental pollution abatement. . .These groups must understand why, when, and how necessary adiustment measures will be implemented. . . .Only with the full participation of those affected and the support of onlookers can a political consensus in support of the decisions be realized." —Dr. William Jones Massachusetts Institute of Technology 'The biggest single challenge to science and technology policymaking in the U.S. is that our consensus-building machinery has broken down." —Dr. Chester Richmond Oak Ridge National Laboratory ".. .greater public participation should be sought in formulating research policy and goals and in identifying environmental concerns which should be evaluated in RD&D programs Data developed^ by federal programs should be publicly available." —Mr. Kevin Markey Friends of the Earth "New technologies seem to be implemented more easily if they are well developed and understood prior to commercialization, if user groups are involved in the development. . . .Public involvement is lust as important in the RD&D decisionmaking process as in any other agency activity, but it is frequently ignored by agencies " —Dr. Roger Caldwell University of Arizona No matter which energy technologies we finally decide on for the future, our decisions are going to need widespread public backing. This point was stressed repeatedly during the hearings by many different witnesses — whether they favored coal, solar energy, or conservation as the answer to our energy future. There was a general conviction at the hearings that today, the public is simply not being adequately informed about or involved in the process of energy research and development. Energy decisions that will directly affect all of our lives seem to be made behind closed doors. Many witnesses expressed the feeling of being excluded from participating in the choices that will shape the future more pro- foundly than any other decisions today's society is making. What's more, witnesses clearly saw those widespread feelings of alienation as a real threat to the success of our nonnuclear energy research and development program. The strongest single statement, in fact, to come out of the hearings was that the Department of Energy, EPA, and other federal, state, and local agencies must begin to present the facts about our energy and environmental alternatives to the public. These agencies must also do a better job of defining the uncertainties we face with regard to energy supplies, environmental effects, and costs to society. Furthermore, this information must be presented clearly, in a way the public can under- stand and use — because even though the issues involved are technical and complex, public par- ticipation can only come with understanding and acceptance of the risks and alternatives. To achieve this, the public must be viewed as a valuable source of information — and a necessary component in the decisionmaking process. Any decision arrived at without broad public consensus runs the risk of never being implemented. 35 ------- ------- ".. .we're not lust developing a bunch of tech- nologies We're talking about a fundamental social change, and as we develop those technologies we've got to develop the kind of social-political support for those technologies which make them operate." —Dr. Don Kash University of Oklahoma The witnesses at the 1978 Section 11 Hearings recognized that building this public consensus on energy and the environment will not be easy. It will require openly debating issues to resolve conflicts. Making compromises. And, in general, recognizing that the final decisionmaking responsibility on issues as central to society as energy and the environment can only rest with the people. Building a consensus is bound to be a slow and difficult process. Yet it is a process that must be undertaken before we can make a transition from the petroleum age to an age of new energy sources. 37 ------- The 1978 Section 11 Hearings Witnesses Consulting Firms/ Consultants Dr. Charles A. Berg Dr. Meyer Katzper Systems and Information Analysis Mr. Richard Merritt Representing Nebraska Agricultural Products Industrial Utilization Committee Mr. John Rigg Dr. Boyd Riley Utilities/Industry/ Trade Associations Mr. George Bolton Director of Supply Technology Columbia LNG Corporation Mr. Jackson Browning Corporate Director Health, Safety & Environmental Affairs Union Carbide Corporation Mr. Norman M. Clapp Vice-President Energy Development & Resources Corp Mr. Richard H. Demmy Executive Vice-President Roy F Weston, Inc Mr. Tyler Gass Director of Technical Services National Water Well Association Mr. Robert Humphries Environmental Information Manager Georgia Power Company Mr. Richard Jortberg General Manager Commonwealth Research Corporation Dr. William J. Lang President Strata Power Company Dr. Jay Lehr Executive Director National Water Well Association Mr. Earle C. Miller Vice-President Charles T Mam, Inc Mr. William Rogers Manager, Environmental Affairs Gulf Mineral Resources Company Dr Benjamin Schlesinger Director, Policy & Economic Analysis American Gas Association Mr. Ronald Wishart Director of Energy & Transportation Policy Energy Supply Service Group Union Carbide Corporation 38 ------- State and Federal Government Dr. Ronald Doctor Commissioner of Energy Resources California Conservation Development Commission The Honorable Andrew Maguire Member of Congress from New Jersey (Statement delivered by Mr Tod Caliguire) Dr. Chester R. Richmond Associate Director for Biomedical and Environmental Sciences Oak Ridge National Laboratory Dr. David Stricos Principal Utility Research Analyst New York State Public Service Commission Environmental/ Conservation Organizations Mr. John Abbotts Public Interest Research Group Dr. Donald Anderson Director Mid-American Solar Energy Center Mr. William Chandler Nature Conservancy Mr. Gary DeLoss Washington Representative Environmental Policy Center Mr. Sheldon Kinsall Assistant Conservation Director National Wildlife Federation Mr. Jonathan Lash Natural Resources Defense Council Mr. Kevin Markey Colorado Representative Friends of the Earth Mr. John McCormick Environmental Policy Center Mr. J. David O'Connor Solar Project Director Center for Energy Policy Mr. William Partington Director Environmental Information Center Florida Conservation Foundation Mr. Cecil Phillips Executive Director The Georgia Conservancy Dr. Vic F. Russo The Ad Hoc Committee on Thermionic Energy Conversion Dr. Eliahu Salmon Senior Research Associate Resources for the Future, Inc Mrs. Ellen Winchester Chairperson National Energy Policy Committee Sierra Club 39 ------- Panel Members Universities Dr. Roger Caldwell Council for Environmental Studies College of Agriculture University of Arizona Dr. William Jones Energy Laboratory Massachusetts Institute of Technology Dr. Don Kash Science and Public Policy Program University of Oklahoma Dr. George Lot Solar Energy Applications Laboratory Colorado State University Dr. Marshal Merriam Department of Materials Science University of California Dr. Otto Raabe Radio Biology Laboratory University of California Dr. Thomas Sladek Energy Division Colorado School of Mines Research Institute Dr. Theodore Taylor Consultant and Visiting Lecturer Princeton University Dr. Irvin White Science and Public Policy Program University of Oklahoma Wednesday, 29 March 1978 Chairman Dr. Stephen J. Gage Assistant Administrator for Research and Development Environmental Protection Agency Dr. Steven Reznek Acting Deputy Assistant Administrator for Energy, Minerals and Industry Environmental Protection Agency Ms. Adlene Harrison Regional Administrator, Region VI Environmental Protection Agency Dr. James MacKenzie Council on Environmental Quality Ms. Virginia Van Sickle Office of State Planning State of Louisiana Thursday, 30 March 1978 Chairman Dr. Steven Reznek Acting Deputy Assistant Administrator for Energy, Minerals and Industry Environmental Protection Agency Mr. Roy Gamse Deputy Assistant Administrator for Planning and Evaluation Environmental Protection Agency Region Mr. Henry Lee Director Massachusetts Energy Office Dr. James MacKenzie Council on Environmental Quality Mr. Eric Cutwater Deputy Regional Administrator, Region Environmental Protection Agency Friday, 31 March 1978 Chairman Dr. Steven Reznek Acting Deputy Assistant Administrator for Energy, Minerals and Industry Environmental Protection Agency Dr. John Davidson Council on Environmental Quality Ms. Rebecca Hanmer Deputy Regional Administrator, Region I Environmental Protection Agency Mr. Jeff Herholdt Assistant Director West Virginia Fuel and Energy Office Mr. Alan Merson Regional Administrator, Region VIII Environmental Protection Agency Mr. Robert Siek Deputy Commissioner Department of Natural Resources State of Colorado U.S. Envirormental Protection Agencj Library 15PL-16) 40 230^- dearborn Stfeet, Room 1670 IL 60604 ------- |