300R04906
                         APPENDIX M
            RESPONSE TO COMMENTSI RECEIVED ON THE
            DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT
   SECTION 1.
   SECTION 2.
   SECTION 3.
   SECTION 4.
   SECTION 5.
   SECTION 6.
   SECTION 7.
   SECTION 8.
   SECTION 9.
   SECTION 10.
   SECTION 11.
   SECTION 12.
   SECTION 13.
PROPOSED ACTION
ALTERNATIVES, RESTORATION AND MONITORING
SOILS AND WATERSHEDS
FISHERIES
FIRE AND FUELS
AIR QUALITY
RECREATION
TRANSPORTATION
VEGETATION
WILDLIFE
SOCIO-ECONOMIC
ROADLESS
NEZPERCE TRIBE
1 Note: The Content Analysis Report and individual comment letters received for this project have been filed
in the project file and are available to the public upon request.

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SECTION 1 - PROPOSED ACTION

GENERAL OPPOSITION/SUPPORT FOR PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION

1.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD IMPLEMENT THE AMERICAN AND
   CROOKED RIVER PROJECT.

   A. The plan for extensive thinning makes excellent sense,  and I can find no good
      arguments against the amount of roadside salvage being planned here.  If the
      temporary roads are indeed temporary, and are,  as described in the mitigation
      language, in reality kept free ofATV use, then I would have to conclude that the
      road and road management package is  logical.   (Individual,  Moscow,  ID  -
      #6.4.20000.410)

      RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged


   B. BECAUSE THE PROJECT is OF BENEFIT TO ELK CITY'S FIRE SAFETY. LOCALECONOMY
      AND ELK HERDS

      The concerned Sportsmen of Idaho, INC.,  (CSI) supports the referenced project
      as being professionally organized and of benefit to Elk City's fire safety, the local
      economy, and elk herds in the  area.   (Recreation/Conservation Organization,
      Viola, ID-#2.1.20000.002)

      RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged
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   C. BECAUSE THE PROJECT WOULD HELP TO UNDO THE NEGLECT OF OUR FOREST LANDS
      We are afraid too little has been done  to  late  (like 25 years)  to help our area.
      Let's get the American/Crooked project and Red River out as soon as possible to
      help  undo  this neglect of our forest lands.   (Individual,  Elk  City,  ID  -
      #14.3.20000.205)

      RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged
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   D. BECAUSE OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT is BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION REGARDING
      FISH AND SEDIMENT
      / fully approve of this project, although I feel it is  too little to late. The fact that
      this worthy project has been delayed for 20 years is caused by false information
      regarding fish and sediment.  Anyone caring to read the facts should study the
      early history of the South Fork and its tributaries, which will show that from 1862
      to  1940,  a  period of heaviest mining, where millions  of  tons of earth were
      discharged  into the headwaters,  the fish  numbers remained the highest ever
      recorded. (Individual, Grangeville, ID-#18.2.20000.210)
      RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged
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    E.  BECAUSE WHAT is BEING PLANNED is WELL SUITED TO THE HABITAT AND SOIL TYPES OF
       THE PROJECT AREAS

       The real test of a forest decision like this one,  especially when plenty of tree
       cutting and some (temporary) road building is planned, is the issue of suitability.
       In this case, I think that you have demonstrated that what is being planned is, in
       fact, suited to the habitat and soil types.  This whole piece of the country is not
       too steep, and it gets plenty of moisture.  It is also not prone to the catastrophic
       mass failures and erosion patterns that exist just  a little to the east near and
       south of Anderson Butte.  (Individual, Moscow, ID - #6.3.20000.230)
       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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    F.  BECAUSE OF MOUNTAIN PINE BEETLE INFESTATIONS
       The RAC (Resource Advisory Committee- North Central Idaho) appreciates the
       opportunity to comment on the American and Crooked River Project.  It is the
       type of project  that is needed in the Elk City area in  response to the ongoing
       mountain pine beetle epidemic.  Please keep the RAC informed as the planning
       progresses and the project is implemented.  If the RAC can help with any aspect
       of implementation, please let us  know.  (Place Based Group,  Lewiston,  ID -
       #3.9.20000.373)
       I fully approve of this project, although I feel it is too little to late.  It is sad to think
       of the millions  of feet of timber wasted by the delay of this project and the
       negative effect it has had on Idaho County's economy.  We need to have 20 of
       these projects going at this time to curb the bug infestations.  At one time, this
       beetle problem could  have  easily been controlled, prior to 1984,  when the
       infested area was  small,  along  the Darby road.   Now it  has spread in all
       directions, south to Mallard Cr.  Ranches where 50% of the trees on our property
       were killed last year.  (Individual, Grangeville, ID-#18.1.20000.373)
       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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2. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT PROMPTLY.
   A.  GIVEN DECLINING FOREST CONDITIONS AND INCREASED RISK OF FIRE
       With the continuing decline in forest conditions, and the resulting increased risk
       of a damaging catastrophic fire, we encourage you to proceed rapidly with the
       completion of the project design, contract  advertisement  and awards,  and
       implementation  on the ground.  (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah,  ID -
       #5.20.12300.330)
       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.  We will  proceed  as  rapidly as
       possible.
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3. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE
   COMMITMENT TO GOOD SCIENCE AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

   A.  The process used to date to develop these projects and the DEIS is, in my mind,
       one of the best that I have ever seen.  There was  full and frequent public
       disclosure and a genuine sense of communication and openness.  As a result,
       not only has the proposed decision been improved, but a good model of how to
       better do business has also  been  developed.   (Individual, Moscow,  ID  -
       #6.1.20000.060)

       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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   B.  BY CLARIFYING HOW THE PROGRAM WILL SOLVE EXISTING WATER QUALITY
       PROBLEMS

       The Nez Perce National Forest has proposed here  a  plan that strikes me as
       being thoughtful and based on good science. The important test of suitability has
       been met, but the commitment to some serious fixes for existing water quality
       problems needs a whole lot of clarification. The forest should also be proud of its
       methodology, both in the scientific aspects of the plan, and also in how it has
       worked with citizens in the preparation of this proposal. (Individual, Moscow, ID -
       #6.9.10000.246)
       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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4. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ACTIVELY MANAGE THE FORESTS.
   The National Forests inevitably degenerate from  neglect and  mismanagement,
   becoming overgrown,  bug-infested and disease-ridden, dead and dying.   They
   become tinderboxes, a starting point for the kind of wildfire that will ravage the west's
   homes, and work places are destroyed.   The hillsides and valleys of our clean, vital
   watersheds are  blackened and denuded.  Habitat supporting Idaho's rich diverse
   wildlife populations and protecting our fragile salmon and  steelhead  runs are
   befouled and laid to waste.  Lives are lost.  Let's try to undo this damage of neglect
   and mismanagement, and  leave a legacy for future generations  that hope to live,
   work,  recreate and raise families in and around healthy productive and sustainable
   forests.  (Individual, Elk City, ID-#14.2.30000.002)
   The Forest Service has been doing a great disservice to the forest since  I can
   remember. What's the matter with  you guys? Mismanagement of resources is now
   an  American tradition  -   nothing  to be proud  of.    (Individual,   Ukiah,  CA  -
   #13.1.30000.203)
   RESPONSE: Comments acknowledged
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5. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ASSERT AUTHORITY
   TO MANAGE.

   BECAUSE LAWSUITS HAVE INHIBITED MANAGEMENT

   We have lived here 35 years and watched our Forest Land managers be forced into
   a  state of inertia by lawsuits from  outsiders calling themselves "Conservationists".
   (Individual, Elk City, ID - #14.1.10100.051)
   RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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6. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD DELAY THIS PROJECT UNTIL THE
   FOREST PLAN is REVISED.

   GIVEN CONTROVERSIAL NATURE OF DEVELOPMENT IN ROADLESS AREAS

   The fact that the forest plan will be revised soon makes a strong argument for
   delaying  this process  until after completion of the forest plan revision.   Such a
   controversial proposal  that involves extensive roadless area development ought to
   wait for to  have  the benefit of a newly  revised  and  updated  forest  plan.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.88.12300.621)
   RESPONSE:

   It is important to proceed with implementation as soon as possible, due to the rapidly
   progressing  pine beetle situation  in the area.   Please refer  to socio/economic
   discussion in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.12.
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7. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT IMPLEMENT THE AMERICAN AND
   CROOKED RIVER PROJECT.

   A. / would like to  register my opposition  to the Crooked/American Timber sale.
      (Individual, Pullman, WA - #33.1.20000.001)

      Please, as a woman, perhaps you can help to turn it around.  The South fork
      Clearwater project does not need more roads, more logging and more human
      greed.  A natural  fire  is eventually good  for the watershed.  Arson is not.
      (Individual, Ukiah, CA - #13.2.20000.270)
      RESPONSE:

      The areas proposed for treatment are not within an area where allowing natural
      fires to burn  (Wildland Fire Use) is permitted by the Forest Plan and/or the Fire
      Management Plan.  As a result,  all fire starts within the project area require
      suppression  responses. By carrying out fuels treatment in strategic locations, we
      will be better able to safely carry out suppression tactics and protect resources
      such as  "at  risk communities",  road  infrastructure, and  natural resources from
      negative fire  effects.
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B. BECAUSE THE PROPOSED PROJECT CONTRADICTS ITS OWN FOREST PLAN AND ITS
   RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE LAW

   / wish to voice my strenuous opposition to the Crooked/American Timber Sale
   proposed for the South Fork Clearwater watershed in the Nez Perce National
   Forest.  By proposing to build some 14 miles of new roads and log thousands of
   acres  in the East Fork  of the American River and  Kirks Fork  in its  draft
   environmental impact statement, the Forest Service contradicts its  own Forest
   Plan  and its responsibilities under the law.   I have been informed that your
   agency has refused even  to  analyze an alternative that does not damage
   watershed  through  logging and  road building.   (Individual,  Delmar,  NY  -
   #28.1.23400.100)
   RESPONSE:

   This project is consistent with the Forest Plan and fully conforms to all applicable
   standards and guidelines. A restoration only alternative was considered  but not
   analyzed in detail because it would not be responsive to the Purpose and Need
   of this project.
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C. BECAUSE PUBLIC PROPERTY is NOT FOR LOGGERS
   / am writing to say I greatly oppose  the logging proposed in the Nez Perce
   National Forest.  This is public property, not for loggers.  It was set aside for
   human  and animal  use,  as so little  space is, not to make the loggers rich.
   (Individual,  Coeur D Alene, ID - #11.1.20000.820)

   RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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D. BECAUSE THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO ENTER " ROADLESS" AREAS
   / am not in  favor of this sale! The  14 miles of newly proposed road will threaten
   the already sensitive watershed in an area that is already deemed "roadless".
   (Individual,  Moscow, ID  - #23.1.20000.002)
   Crooked/American  timber sale apparently involves  14  miles   of new  road
   construction and logging thousands of acres.   I object to the project because  it
   proposes to enter the Meadow  Creek Inventoried Roadless Area,  which is
   protected by the Roadless  Rule, which the present administration  is unwisely
   attempting to overturn.  (Individual,  Minneapolis, MN - #32.1.20000.160)
   RESPONSE:
   We have considered the sensitivities of each watershed in the project area. No
   part of this project involves the  Meadow Creek  Inventoried Roadless Area.
   Please refer to Section 1.1 of the FEIS and Map 1 for the project area location.
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E. BECAUSE THE PROJECT INVOLVES BUILDING NEW ROADS IN WATERSHED AREAS AND
   LOGGING IN ALREADY HIGHLY " MANAGED" AREAS
   / am against the proposed management plan proposed for the South Fork of the
   Clearwater.  The most disturbing points of the proposed plan include building
   new roads in watershed areas and potentially logging thousands of acres in an
   already highly "managed" area. (Individual, Moscow, ID - #10.1.20000.247)
   RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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F. BECAUSE THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD CAUSE MORE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE
   THAN IT WOULD CORRECT

   / sincerely sympathize  with the problem of significant fuel loading that is claimed
   in  the  American and  Crooked River systems.   However,  I also  am  deeply
   concerned that the proposed cure  to reduce this fire  risk posses  more
   environmental damage than it corrects.   This DEIS,  as  is typical of these
   documents, suggest that there may be some short term watershed degradation
   but promises eventual upward trend improvement in these watersheds. One has
   to  be extremely naive not  to recognize the very likelihood that these rivers may
   never recover from management decisions that remove a major quantity of the
   forest canopy. Given that you are proposing to cut over 25 MMBF (Alternative C)
   on approximately 2,700 acres of ground and build 15 miles of "temporary" road in
   watersheds that are already suffering from past activity clearly indicates to me  to
   be very skeptical of such promises.  (Individual, Post Falls, ID - #19.1.20000.247)
   RESPONSE:
   The  Bonneville  Power Administration funded  research  in   Crooked   River
   (Intensive Evaluation and  Monitoring of Chinook  Salmon and Steelhead Trout
   Production, Crooked River and  Upper Salmon  River  Sites, 1995 and 1993
   Annual Reports).  Their work  has found that in  streams degraded by  dredge
   mining, connecting  off-channel ponds  to the stream can increase the carrying
   capacity  for Chinook  salmon parr (Kiefer and  Foster, 1991), and complex
   instream  structures can increase the carrying capacity for steelhead trout parr
   (Kiefer and Lockhart, 1993).  Both American River and Crooked Rivers have
   been dredge mined.  Past instream improvement work completed by the Nez
   Perce Forest in Crooked River includes approximately 15,000 square meters  of
   juvenile rearing and winter habitat through side channel construction and pond
   connection (P.Siddell,  1992).   This work  included the addition  of instream
   structures, which accounted for 37.4  percent of the total  pool habitat  in the
   project area.  The  past work is obviously helping Crooked River recover from
   past management decisions.  American River has seen similar instream work
   completed by the BLM.
   This project will  both  improve on the existing  in  channel  work and provide
   additional stream reaches  containing complex instream structures as well as off
   channel rearing areas  with the objective of increasing fish  habitat carrying
   capacity and leading to an upward trend in fish/water quality (FEIS, Chapter  3,
   Sections 3.2, 3.3, and Appendix E).
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                               03(35(33030303

 PURPOSE AND NEED

 8.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE FULL RANGE OF
    PUBLIC INTERESTS AND MAXIMIZE LONG-TERM BENEFITS.

    GIVEN THE ROLE OF FORESTS IN PRESERVING QUALITY OF LIFE

    The U.S. National Forest System is the greatest in the world. It is the legacy of
    generations that have come before us, and this present generation has the moral as
    well  as  the legal responsibility  to  leave  it intact for future generations.   As
    ecosystems all across the planet are placed under ever greater stresses, large intact
    forests will play an even greater role in preserving the earth's ability to sustain a
    quality of life worth living. As a citizen and tax payer, I call upon my government to
    protect the public interest of the many against the greed of a few powerful insiders
    who've shown they care little for any but themselves.  (Individual, Delmar, NY -
    #28.10.11200.060)

    RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.
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 9.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CLARIFY RELATIVE IMPORTANCE OF
    SOCIAL AND SCIENTIFIC GOALS AS JUSTIFICATION FOR TIMBER HARVEST.

    GIVEN PAST RELUCTANCE TO HARVEST TIMBER BASED ON CUMULATIVE WATER QUALITY
    IMPACTS
    Regardless of the current condition of the South Fork, the agency would say it is
    somehow out of whack and prescribe logging as the cure.  The simple matter of fact
    is, prior to  the Rey/Craig dog and pony show in Grangeville in 2003, there was no
    immediate plan to log these areas, likely due to concerns over cumulative impacts on
    water quality.   The  so-called  reasons  for logging  are based upon politics,  not
    science, and that should be made clear in the DEIS as the  decision to log and build
    roads is a social one, not a scientific one. (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
    Moscow, ID - #22.56.11000.700)
    RESPONSE:
    Comment acknowledged.  Refer to Chapter 1 of the  FEIS  for an explanation of
    the Purpose and Need of this project.
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10.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD AMEND THE STATEMENT OF PURPOSE
    AND NEED TO MEET KEY NATIONAL, REGIONAL AND LOCAL PRIORITIES CONCERNING
    WATERSHED AND FISH HABITAT RESTORATION.

    Use of the overly limited statement of purpose and  need  to formulate alternatives
    omits key national, regional and local priorities in terms of restoring watersheds and
    fisheries habitat without further ecological degradation.  As  we  know, the  upper
    Columbia River basin anadromous fisheries are  in steep decline and their recovery is
    of paramount importance to the region. The Forest Service owns and manages most
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     of the headwaters of the Clearwater River which is critical spawning grounds for
     native and anadromous fish.

     The Forest Service holds a grave responsibility to the Columbia River Tribes, and to
     all citizens, to do its utmost to improve spawning habitat.  The federal government,
     including the Forest Service, has a legal and moral obligation to do all it can to
     reverse this trend to meet treaty rights and environmental laws.  When fish stocks
     are  at such critical lows,  it  is the federal government's responsibility to not only
     minimize the habitat degradation - but also to maximize restoration.

     In fact, this is the policy adopted by the government in the salmon recovery strategy
     (AII-H paper) and in the  NMFS biological opinion.  The government chose not to
     remove the lower 4 Snake River dams at this time and instead focused on habitat.
     Status quo is insufficient.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -
     #22.15.32300.381)

     RESPONSE:
     Please refer to the fish viability/population trend  analysis in Chapter 3 of the FEIS.
     We agree that the status quo is not an option and this project was designed to meet
     the Forest Plan objective of  improving fish/water quality in streams that are below
     their  objective.  Restoration activities are included  for all watersheds within  the
     project area.  The BLM has taken the lead for mainstem fish habitat improvements in
     American River and will continue their work under proposals currently being planned
     (FEIS, Chapter 3). The American and Crooked River Project includes instream work
     in Crooked River and Relief Creek (23.8 mi).  This work will modify and improve the
     work done by the  Forest Service in 1984-1988. Additional reaches will be enhanced
     as well using the  best available science  and restoration techniques. Along with the
     instream improvements will be road decommissioning, soil restoration and  culvert
     removal and replacements, all designed to improve fish habitat and water  quality in
     these important streams. Refer to FEIS, Appendix D for more information.
     In addition,  the Nez Perce  National  Forest has pursued  an  active and ongoing
     dialogue with the Nez Perce Tribe at key  points during the development  of this
     proposed project.  Additionally, their advice and input has been sought at all phases
     and is continually  being incorporated into this document.  Refer to the Responses to
     Comments from  Nez  Perce  Tribe, which immediately  following  the responses to
     public comments.

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11.   THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD BALANCE THE PROJECTS STATED
     PURPOSE AND NEED WITH OTHER MANDATES IN THE FOREST PLAN REGARDING
    WATERSHED AND SPECIES PROTECTION.

     The  project's stated purpose, to  recover  economic value and  contribute  to  the
    economic  and social well being of local communities, needs to  be balanced with
    other mandates in the Forest Plan  regarding watershed  and species protection.
     Continuing shortsighted logging and road construction in this heavily impacted area
    will only exacerbate water quality and wildlife habitat problems.  Unfortunately, this
    project is based on short-term economics with disastrous ecological consequences,
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    which    will    negatively    affect   the    region's    long-term    economy.
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.9.20000.700)

    RESPONSE:

    We strongly disagree with your conclusion/prediction that there will be disastrous
    ecological consequences. Please refer to the response to # 10, above. The above-
    mentioned restoration work will also contribute to the economic and social well being
    of the local communities both in the short term and in the long term.

    With respect to wildlife species, the project actually will modestly improve habitats for
    some species (elk, wolves), and may serve to reduce future risks losses of some old
    growth stands in near adjacency to treatment  units.  In  all, none of the activities
    would  result in adverse effects to  any terrestrial federally listed  species or their
    habitats. Refer to the Biological Assessment for FEIS for details.
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12.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CLARIFY REASONS FOR MANAGEMENT
    ACTIVITIES.

    BECAUSE RISK OF FIRE is BEING FALSELY USED AS JUSTIFICATION FOR TIMBER HARVEST

    / think that our present federal administration is using the public's general belief that
    forest fires are bad, to try to push through road building and timber cutting to "save"
    the forests. (Individual, Loveland, CO - #12.1.10100.720)

    RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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13.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD BE HONEST ABOUT WHY THEY ARE
    LOGGING.
    BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC REASONS FOR ELK CITY
    / have  asked  many questions in  this  comment letter.  Perhaps many are
    rhetorical. I firmly believe that this large timber sale is being proposed to feed
    logs to a certain mill near Elk City.   By selling  this sale, the PR of the  Forest
    Service will be heightened in the small town of Elk City where the mill is located.
    There is little doubt in  my mind that log acquisition this is clearly the primary
    purpose  and need for this logging proposal.   (Individual, Grangeville, ID  -
    #30.9.34000.720)

    RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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14. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT FALSIFY THE PURPOSE AND NEED
    IN THE DEIS IN ORDER TO MAKE A PROJECT APPEAR MORE LEGITIMATE AND
    ACCEPTABLE.

    The way the purpose  and need is written up in the DEIS, jobs and community
    stability is shown as the 3 rd reason for the project in kind of an  "oh by the way"
    content.  Job creation and community stability are actually shown as a secondary
    benefit of the project to remove  the fuels.  You cannot have two co-purpose and
    needs (fuels reduction and job creation) that are so different in their objectives.  As I
    said earlier, one is the purpose and need  for the project,  and  the other  is a
    secondary  outcome  from  implementing the project.   You would be violating the
    NEPA to call them both your primary purpose and need.  I  will remind you that
    falsifying a NEPA purpose  and need in order to make a project appear  more
    legitimate and acceptable to  the public is a clear violation of the NEPA. (Individual,
    Grangeville, ID - #30.10.20000.131)
    The majority of units being ground-skidded  and machine  piled,  gives  the  clear
    impression that the primary  objective  of the project is to maximize net economic
    return. It should be noted that this is not one of the stated objectives in the Purpose
    and  Need  section.    (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID   -
    #15.121.20000.720)
    If the Forest Service is selling the timber sale to help a small,  local mill, why can't the
    Forest Service tell the truth and insert this as the primary purpose and need?  I am
    quite certain that is the mill is in as much trouble as I have heard, the Forest  Service
    could easily justify a timber  sale for "jobs and community stability" near Elk City.
    (Individual,  Grangeville, ID-#30.12.20000.820)

    RESPONSE:

    The purpose and need statement is balanced, clear, and consistent throughout the
    development of this project.  It is appropriate  for conditions  within the project area
    and follows the Forest Plan and addresses issued raised during scoping.
    One purpose of the project  is to reduce current and future fuel loads within the
    watersheds which are being affected by the mountain pine beetle; it  is not designed
    to solely reduce the risk of catastrophic wildfire to Elk City. The proposed treatments
    would modify  fire  behavior  by lowering fire  intensities for fires occurring in the
    treatment areas, which would help to protect resource values of all types within the
    watershed  such   as;  water  quality,  wildlife  habitat,   old   growth,  recreation
    opportunities, and air quality as well as infrastructure investments  such as roads,
    bridges, campgrounds, etc. The result of having lower fire intensities would give fire
    suppression resources  the  opportunity  to   utilize  the  treatment  areas  during
    suppression activities, which  would allow for the control of a fire at a smaller size,
    less cost, and less resource loss within the watersheds.
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 PROCESS AND IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS

15. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL JUSTIFICATION FOR QUESTIONABLE
    TIMBER HARVESTS AND ROAD CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMERICAN RlVER WATERSHED.

    GIVEN RELATIVELY LOW FIRE REGIME AND POTENTIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
    FROM HARVESTS IN THE AMERICAN RIVER AREA
    In looking at the sections of the DEIS addressing fire (3.4. Indicator 1-Fire Regime)
    you  show Table 3.37 Fire Regime Acreage in  the Project Area.  Reviewing this
    information plus your Fire Regime maps 9A, 9B,  10A and 10B raises a big question.
    That question is why are you doing the extensive logging in the American River as its
    Fire Regime is almost entirely comprised of either of Infrequent, Mixed or Infrequent
    to Very Infrequent,  Lethal?  The maps  (not map  5 you refer to) corroborate this
    classification although the maps describe each classification somewhat differently.
    In any event,  it  seems the American  River water shed is very  different than the
    Crooked River system in  terms of fire risk. Fire ignitions between every 75 to 300
    years in the American River do not suggest to me that this water shed is faced with
    any more of a fire risk than countless other public lands that are reasonably in a  state
    of balance in terms of types of fuel and its risk of catastrophic fire. Obviously,  even
    your best-conditioned  lands  pose  as  lethal  fire regimes when  environmental
    conditions are such  as to place said land in jeopardy.  Your data indicates about 43
    percent of the project area is not threatened with frequent fire and yet your proposed
    logging acreage is 32 per cent from this river. Why is the Nez Perce  NF advocating
    such extensive timber removal from an area that seems to be well within some
    reasonable  balance regarding fuel types  and fuel loading?   Considering the
    previously discussed danger  of further  watershed habitat degradation, I have to
    question the wisdom of doing that much longing and  road building in an area that
    does not seem to  warrant such  fire reduction; especially when one honestly
    considers the probable down side of such activity.  You do not have to log over 700
    acres of the American River to protect the tow of Elk City!  (Individual,  Post Falls, ID -
    #19.10.13110.277)
    RESPONSE:
    Fire regime is used as an  indicator to demonstrate the historic patterns of fire and not
    as design criteria for the project.  The treatment  units are  not  based  on the fire
    regime but are based on the need for fuels treatments in the areas of dead and dying
    stands of timber.  While there are areas within the project area that have historic fire
    regimes of infrequent mixed and lethal regimes that would have historically  burned
    with severe stand replacing fires, allowing these types of fires to burn may be socially
    unacceptable. If left untreated these stands of dead and dying timber will increase
    the fuel loading to levels  where fire suppression would be extremely difficult under
    normal  fire  conditions due to increased fire behavior.   With the  increased fire
    behavior  comes the  increased  possibility of a severe fire  which may degrade
    resources such as water quality, habitat, air quality, etc.  Additionally, by treating the
    stands  suppression resources will have  an opportunity to safely utilize the  treated
    areas during the suppression activities  due to lower fuel loadings and decreased fire
    behavior.
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16. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ADOPT STEWARDSHIP PRINCIPLES
    WHEN IMPLEMENTING RESTORATION ACTIVITIES.

    A. TO ENSURE EFFICIENT USE OF TAX DOLLARS AND BENEFIT LOCAL ECONOMIES

       We encourage you to be more strategic in your planning and project design with
       regard to reducing fire risks. This project seems to be more of the same that has
       already occurred in the South Fork Clearwater Watershed and would not reduce
       the fire risk.  In order to ensure that tax dollars are wisely spent, projects should
       be  more  strategic  in terms  of  designing  them to address  fire  risk,  while
       concurrently providing revenue to the U.S.  Treasury and providing resource-
       based jobs to the local communities.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
       Boise, ID - #15.108.10000.800)

       RESPONSE:

       Comment acknowledged.  We believe this project strategically addresses fire risk
       while concurrently providing local employment opportunities.
                                      OS CSCS

    B. BECAUSE PAST STEWARDSHIP PROGRAMS REVEALED THE VALUE OF SERVICES
       PROVIDED

       Involvement in stewardship projects has taught  the Concerned Sportsmen of
       Idaho members the  value of including additional service component, restoration
       activities in projects such as fish passage improvements. Please consider using
       the proceeds of an increased timber harvest project component to fund project
       service components through employment of the "goods for service" stewardship
       principle.   (Recreation/Conservation Organization,  Viola, ID - #2.3.10000.381)

       CERT members have extensive experience in failed Stewardship projects on
       both  Basin  forests.  The CERT believes  that  this project  offers  a golden
       opportunity to employ "goods for services" stewardship features to accomplish
       fish passage improvements and other  service oriented restoration activities.
       (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #1.5.20000.381)

       RESPONSE: See response to 16(D).
                                    03(3303
    C. BECAUSE TIMBER HARVEST GENERATES SIGNIFICANT REVENUES
       The American  and Crooked River Project seems to encompass the  essential
       elements  that  would make an excellent  stewardship  proposal.   Under the
       Stewardship authorities,  receipts generated from the sale of commercial products
       could be retained to fund the fuel reduction  and  watershed improvements that
       have  been identified as part of this project.   We urge that you consider the
       potential benefits of stewardship contracting in the implementation of this project.
       (Place Based Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.8.10000.835)

       RESPONSE: See response to 16(D).
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    D.  BECAUSE SIMILAR STEWARDSHIP PROJECTS ARE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL

        This [project] fits well with BLM project design in the Elk City area. It appears the
        Whiskey South stewardship project will successfully proceed. The American and
        Crooked River Project is of similar nature, with similar objectives.  (Timber/Wood
        Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.19.10200.160)

        RESPONSE:
        It is our intent to include stewardship contracting among the implementation
        options, in part  to secure funding  for a substantial watershed  restoration
        component.  Refer to the tables in Appendix D and the Cost/Revenue Tables
        in Chapter 3, Section 3.12.
                                eg 03 eg 03 eg 03

17. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CLARIFY THE ROLE OF THIS PROJECT
    UNDER THE HEALTHY FOREST RESTORATION ACT (HFRA), AND DEMONSTRATE
    COMPLIANCE WITH HFRA AS NECESSARY.

    A.  BY PERFORMING REVISED SCOPING AND ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION
        Of significant concern to us is the proposed application of the project under the
        so-called Healthy Forest Restoration Act of 2003 or HFRA (H.R. 1904). If this is
        the intent, as described in the DEIS, the project must be scoped as such in a
        revised scoping notice to all interested parties. Further, meaningful collaboration
        must take place in order to ascertain whether the current design of the project
        meets the direction of  the HFRA.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
        Boise, ID - #15.1.10400.160)

        RESPONSE:

        The text has been corrected  for FEIS.  While this  project would fit under an
        authorized project for HFRA,  it is not being implemented as such since the
        project was scoped prior to the passage of HFRA.

                                    CSSOSOS

    B.  GIVEN QUESTIONABLE REFERENCES TO THIS PROJECT AS AN HFRA APPLICATION
        1. According to certain portions of the DEIS, notably on page 150, the assertion
           is  made that this project is considered an "authorized project" under the
           Healthy Forest Restoration Act of 2003.  This is inappropriate because no
           mention  of the project's applicability under the HFRA has been mentioned in
           any previous NEPA preparation or documentation. Further, the project is not
           identified in the Community Wildfire Protection Plan (Idaho County Wildland
           Fire Mitigation Plan, August 2003), that was prepared prior to the passage of
           the HFRA, and fails to  fully meet the definition of an approved CWPP under
           the HFRA.     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,   ID  -
           #15.15.10400.160)
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           RESPONSE: Please refer to response to 17(A).
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       2.  It is also curious that the HFRA is not listed under Section 1.4 of the DEIS
           (Planning and Direction). We strongly object to the application of this project
           under the HFRA for the aforementioned reasons and urge you to proceed
           with the project as a "regular" timber sale project.
           (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.17.10400.160)

           RESPONSE: Please refer to response to 17(A).
                                OS OS OJ OJ OJ O3

18.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD INVOLVE THE US FISH AND WILDLIFE
    SERVICE AND THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION IN THE
    ASSESSMENT OF INDICATOR SPECIES BEFORE AND AFTER TREATMENTS.

    A. BY ARRANGING FOR THESE AGENCIES TO DEVELOP A BIOLOGICAL OPINION

       The Fish and Wildlife Service and NOAA Fisheries need to  evaluate  this
       assessment in a Biological Opinion.  The most appropriate species should be
       selected as indicators to assess ecosystem integrity before, during, and after the
       proposed treatment.   The assessment  should describe the effects  of the
       proposed activities on all forest indicator species for each treatment site.
       (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.124.10200.340)

       RESPONSE:

       In 1987, the current  Forest  Plan  recognized westslope  cutthroat trout,
       steelhead trout and spring Chinook salmon as management indicator species
       that occurred on  the Nez Perce National Forest (USDA,  1987). Since then,
       steelhead trout  and bull trout  have  been listed as threatened  under  the
       Endangered Species Act (Federal Register Vol.62, No. 159, August 18, 1997,
       and Federal Register Vol. 63, No. 111, June 10, 1968).
       Steelhead trout and the bull trout have both been listed as threatened under
       the Endangered Species  Act (Federal Register Vol. 62, No. 159, August 18,
       1997 and Federal Register Vol. 63, No. 111, June 10, 1998).
       In 1999,  USDA  Forest Service Northern Region Sensitive Species list was
       updated and it now includes not only westslope cutthroat trout and spring
       Chinook salmon  but added to  the list was interior redband trout.   Redband
       trout will likely be considered threatened under ESA like steelhead trout.

       The management indicator species have been reviewed in relation to this
       proposed project (FEIS,  Section 3.3).  Cumulative effects to management
       indicator species  and their habitats are described in the FEIS, Chapter 3.
       A Biological Assessment has been completed and consultation with NOAA
       Fisheries and US Fish  and Wildlife Service has been conducted as required
       under ESA (FEIS and ROD).  A draft  Biological Opinion  was  issued on
       December 2, 2004.
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        During the project planning process, the Forest Service will consult with the
        Fish and Wildlife Service and NOAA Fisheries when the project has impacts
        to Threatened, Endangered, and  Proposed species.  The Forest Service
        prepares a biological assessment for Federally listed or proposed species.
        The Fish and  Wildlife Service prepares  a biological opinion and  NOAA
        Fisheries when there are adverse effects to federally listed species.  The Fish
        and Wildlife Service and NOAA Fisheries do not consult on Forest Service
        management indicator species.
    B. BY CONSULTING WITH THESE AGENCIES ON SENSITIVE SALMONIDS AND PACIFIC
       LAMPREY

       Snake  River Steelhead  Trout,  Columbia  River  Bull  Trout,  Snake  River
       Spring/Summer  Chinook  Salmon, Interior Redband  Trout,  and  Westslope
       Cutthroat Trout, and Pacific Lamprey all occupy the project area.  Consultations
       with both the NOAA Fishen'es and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service should be
       incorporated into the EA.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
       #15.131.10200.380)

       RESPONSE:

       NOAA Fisheries and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service were provided copies
       of the DEIS and were asked to provide comments.  In addition, both agencies
       fulfilled their consultation responsibilities under the Endangered Species Act.
       Biological Opinions  from both Agencies are appended to the ROD for this
       EIS.
                                 0* (33 OS 08 US OS

1 9. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD MANAGE THIS PROJECT JOINTLY WITH
    THE EASTSIDE TOWNSHIP PROPOSED PROJECT.
    BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS ARE LINKED DUE TO TEMPORARY ROAD ACCESS
    The  DEIS gives  the impression that the  Record of Decision for  the  Crooked-
    American  Project will be based in part on the temporary road access provided to
    BLM parcels designated for logging in the  Eastside Township proposed project.  This
    is inappropriate.  If the projects are intricately intertwined, they should be managed
    as  a  single  project.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID  -
    #15.20.10200.170)

    RESPONSE:
    The American and Crooked River project and the  Bureau  of Land Management's
    (BLM) proposed Eastside Township project are discrete projects.  The two projects
    are proposed under separate authorities,  the National Forest  Management Act and
    the Healthy Forest Restoration Act, respectively.  They are  being planned under
    different schedules.  The Nez Perce National  Forest is on  a schedule to begin
    implementing the American and Crooked River project during the spring and summer
    of 2005. The BLM is currently preparing to publish a Notice of Intent and initiation of
    scoping on a proposed  action for the Eastside Township EIS.  It is unlikely that the
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     BLM would be in a position to implement its project until late 2005 or 2006.  The two
     projects are being planned under separate administrative and supervisory controls.

     It is premature to conclude that the BLM would access their lands from temporary
     roads needed to conduct  proposed activities on the American and Crooked River
     project because the BLM has not yet completed the analysis of alternatives for the
     Eastside Township project. If the BLM needed access across Forest Service lands
     in order to achieve its management objectives, it would initiate a request for a permit
     to do so, regardless of Forest Service activities on adjacent lands. The BLM has not
     initiated such a request.

     A portion of the American and Crooked River project (the American River portion)
     occurs in the same watershed as the proposed Eastside Township  project  but
     disparities  exist  related  to:   authorities,  schedules, administrative  boundaries,
     ownership patterns and related  objectives,  and administrative/supervisory controls.
     Considering these factors, it is clear these two actions have independent utility.
                                 08 eg egos eg eg

20.  THE FINAL EIS SHOULD DOCUMENT COMPLIANCE WITH TRUST AND CONSULTATION
     RESPONSIBILITIES TO TRIBAL TREATIES.

     A.  TO ENSURE THAT TREATY RIGHTS AND PRIVILEDGES ARE ADDRESSED IN
        ACCORDANCE WITH EO 13175

        The EIS  should document  that any existing treaty rights and privileges  are
        addressed appropriately.  If the proposed project may have impacts on Tribes,
        the draft EIS should describe the results of the consultation that took place with
        all affected tribal governments,  consistent with Executive Order (EO) 13175
        (Consultation and  Coordination with  Indian Tribal Governments).   EO 13175
        states that the  U.S. government will continue "to work with  Indian tribes on a
        government-to-government basis to address issues that pertain to  Indian tribal
        self- government, trust resources, and Indian tribal  treaty  and other rights."
        (Federal Agency Official, Seattle,  WA - #24.28.10300.040)

        RESPONSE:

        Refer to  formal correspondence with the  Nez Perce Tribe,  immediately
        following the  responses to public comments section  and the response to
        20(B).

                                    08 OS 0#

    B.  To ENSURE TRIBAL RIGHTS TO SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES FOR FISHING. HUNTING.
        AND OTHER ACTIVITIES

        This project does not honor legal commitments to the Nez Perce Tribal treaty
        rights that are supposed to ensure a sustainable fishery.  Please honor these
        rights to the Tribe as  well as the species  that .call this roadless  area home.
        (Individual, Moscow, ID - #9.3.10300.150)
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RESPONSE:

The American and Crooked River Project is located within that area ceded to
the United States in 1855  by the Nez  Perce  people.   The Treaty was
subsequently ratified by Congress and proclaimed by the President in 1859.
Although the Forest Service, through the Secretary of Agriculture, is vested
with  statutory authority and responsibility for managing resources of the
National  Forests such  as areas  within  the project  area,  no sharing of
administrative or management decision-making power is held with  the Nez
Perce Tribe.  However, commensurate with the authority and responsibility to
manage resources, is the obligation to consult, cooperate and coordinate with
the Nez Perce Tribe in developing and planning projects within the project
area, and on other areas of National Forest system land, that may affect tribal
rights.
As a result of the 1855 Treaty, elements of Nez Perce culture such as tribal
welfare, land and resources were entrusted to the United States government.
Trust responsibilities resulting from the Treaty dictate, in part, that the United
States government facilitate the execution  of treaty  rights and traditional
cultural practices of the Nez  Perce  Indians by  working  with them on a
government to government basis in a manner that attempts a reasonable
accommodation of their needs, without compromising  the legal positions of
the Nez Perce Tribe  or the  Federal government.   Because tribal trust
activities often  occur in common with the public, the  Nez Perce  National
Forest strives to manage Nez  Perce ceded land in favor of the concerns of
the Nez Perce Indians, as far as is practicable, while still providing goods and
services to all the people.
Specific Nez Perce treaty rights applicable  to the American and Crooked
River project area and other  areas  managed by the  Nez Perce  National
Forest are generally articulated in Article III  of the 1855 Treaty, and include:

   "The exclusive right of taking fish in all the streams where running
   through or bordering said  reservation  is  further secured to said
   Indians; as also the right of taking fish at all usual and accustomed
   places  in common with citizens of the Territory; and of erecting
   temporary buildings  for curing,  together with the  privilege  of
   hunting, gathering roots  and berries, and pasturing  their horses
   and cattle upon open and unclaimed land."
Although the 1855 Treaty does not specifically mandate the federal
government to manage habitats, there is an implied assumption that an
adequate reserve of water be available for executing treaty related  hunting
and fishing activities.
Treaty rights as well as implied rights applying to grazing and wildlife habitat
are incorporated into the Nez Perce Forest  Plan. Forest Plan Amendment #7
addressed Tribal concerns with the Plan about monitoring  and mitigation of
impacts on elk and their habitats.  Compliance with the Forest Plan and its
subsequent amendments by  the American and Crooked River  Project
presumes that compliance with trust and treaty responsibilities is incorporated
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   RESPONSE:
   This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
   within the project and surrounding area.  Refer to FEIS, Chapter 1, Section 1.5
   Please refer to the Purpose and Need and Forest Plan direction from the FEIS,
   Chapter 1 , Section 3. The Forest Plan and Fire Management Plan currently do
   not allow  for Wildland Fire Use (WFU) within any portion of the project area.
   Without the authority for WFU, all fire ignitions within the project area require a
   suppression response and can not be allowed to play its natural role.
C. BY REMOVING IMPEDIMENTS TO NATURAL RECOVERY

   Goals for the area include fully functioning stream ecosystems that include healthy,
   resilient populations of native trout and salmon.  The highest priority management
   actions in the project area are those that remove impediments to natural recovery.
   The task of management should be the reversal of artificial legacies  to allow
   restoration of natural,  self-sustaining ecosystem processes.  If natural disturbance
   patterns  are  the best way to maintain or restore desired ecosystem values, then
   nature should be able to accomplish this task very well without human intervention
   (Frissell and Bayles, 1996).  That is why we requested a real restoration alternative
   that did not log or build roads.
   We conclude this section of the comment letter with this passage from Frissell and
   Bayles (1996):
   Most philosophies and approaches for ecosystem management put forward
   to date  are  limited (perhaps  doomed)  by a  failure to acknowledge and
   rationally address the overriding problems of uncertainty and ignorance about
   the mechanisms by which complex ecosystems respond to human  actions.
   They lack humility and historical perspective about science and about our
   past failures in management. They still implicitly subscribe to the scientifically
   discredited illusion that  humans are fully in control  of  an ecosystemic
   machine and can foresee and manipulate  all the possible consequences of
   particular actions while deliberately altering the ecosystem to produce only
   predictable, optimized and socially desirable outputs.  Moreover,  despite our
   well-demonstrated inability to prescribe and forge institutional arrangements
   capable of successfully implementing the principles and practice of integrated
   ecosystem management over a sustained time frame an at sufficiently large
   spatial   scales,   would-be  ecosystem   managers  have  neglected  to
   acknowledge and critically analyze past institutional and policy failures.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -#22.58.1 1200.330)

   They say we need ecosystem management because public opinion has changed,
   neglecting the obvious point that public opinion has been  shaped  by the glowing
   promises of past managers and by their clear and spectacular failure to deliver on
   such  promises.     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,   Moscow,  ID   -
   #22.59.11200.330)
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          RESPONSE:

          This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
          within the project and surrounding area.  Refer to FEIS Chapter 1, Section 1.5.
          Please  refer also to the Purpose and Need and Forest Plan direction from the
          FEIS Chapter 1, pages 2-7.
                                      as as as c# os ea

124.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider naturally occurring
      ecosystem function.

      A.  TO EXAMINE DISEASE ORGANISMS

          Some  spec/es  of frees,  native insects, and disease organisms  are often
          described by the FS as invasive" or somehow bad for the ecosystem.  Such
          contentions that conditions  are somehow "unnatural" runs counter to more
          enlightened thinking on such matters. For example, Harvey et al, 1994 state:
          Although usually viewed as pests at the tree and stand scale,  insects and
          disease organisms perform functions on a broader scale.
          Pests are a part of even the healthiest eastside ecosystems.  Pest roles-such as
          the  removal of poorly  adapted individuals,  accelerated decomposition, and
          reduced stand density-may be critical to rapid ecosystem adjustment
          In  some  areas of the eastside  and Blue  Mountain  forests, at  least, the
          ecosystem has been altered, setting the stage for high pest activity (Cast and
          others,  1991).   This increased activity does  not mean that the ecosystem is
          broken or dying; rather, it is demonstrating functionality, as programmed during
          its  developmental   (evolutionary)   history.     (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.42.32510.370)

          RESPONSE:
          This project is treating less than 9 percent of the analysis area.  The disturbance
          process of insect infestation is occurring on many  of the untreated acres.  The
          natural  fire  process is likely to occur on the untreated areas.   There are also
          more than a million acres in wilderness and many thousands of acres in roadless
          areas that have not been managed and are in a natural state (excluding  fire
          suppression).
          This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
          within the project and surrounding  area.  Please review the purpose and need
          and forest Plan direction from the DEIS Chapter 1 pages 2-7.
                                          080*08

      B.  BECAUSE INSECT INFESTATION AND FIRE ARE PART OF THE NATURAL STAND
          REPLACEMENT CYCLE
          The presence of some percentage of dying or at risk trees is not sufficient as a
          reason  to log the entire stand. Not all Lodgepole Pine trees will succumb to the
          Mountain Pine Beetle and those that survive could potentially provide a genetic
          resistance  to beetle in the future.  This genetic resistance to beetles would be
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          lost if the trees were logged.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
          ID-#15.14.34000.373)

          We are concerned with the statement that currently uninfected but "high risk"
          trees would be harvested given the fact that, "There is little opportunity to further
          prevent additional mountain pine beetle Lodgepole pine mortality in the Red
          River, Crooked River, and American River watersheds (Red River Salvage EA.
          p. 1).  This statement is based solely on short-term economic goals and has no
          ecological value: Mountain pine beetles prefer larger-diameter Lodgepole pine,
          implying that  all larger trees could be harvested.   Further,  according  to
          discussions with leading forest pathologists, it is impossible to predict where
          Mountain Pine Beetles will go,  and therefore these stands should not be logged.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.116.34000.373)

          RESPONSE:
          This project is treating less than 9% of the analysis area.  The disturbance
          process of insect infestation is occurring on many of the  untreated acres.  The
          natural fire  process is likely to occur on the  untreated areas.   There are also
          more than a million acres in wilderness and many thousands of acres in roadless
          areas that have  not been  managed and are in  a natural state (excluding  fire
          suppression)

          Trees are  prescribed to  be  left  in  all  stands  if still alive to meet  green tree
          replacements for snags. If the  trees have dwarf mistletoe they are to be removed to
          prevent infection  of the regeneration. I have seen no literature on genetic resistance
          to beetle. The beetle epidemic currently covers-  the entire analysis area and  the
          majority of high risk stands have mortality.
                                      O3 OSOSCSOSOS

125.  The Nez Perce National Forest should use best available science to define
      historical ranges of variability (HRV) and to justify characterizations of
      current forest conditions and  disturbance regimes.

      A.  BY ADHERING TO NATIONAL FOREST MANAGEMENT ACT (NFMA) DEFINITIONS OF
          " RANGE OF VARIATION"
          It becomes very difficult to subscribe to the DES arguments when the definitions are
          not precise.  For this discussion, let us use a definition of range of variability as found
          in the  20(X)  NFMA  regulations  (currently in stasis  due  to  the  administration's
          politics).  The definition may  be  instructive to the writers of the DES.  Range of
          variability is defined here at Sec. 21936 as:

          "The expected range of variation in ecosystem composition, and structure that would
          be expected under natural disturbance regimes in the current climatic period.  These
          regimes include the type, frequency, severity, and magnitude of disturbance in  the
          absence of fire suppression and extensive commodity extraction."
          Current climatic period is further defined as:

          "The period of time since establishment of the modem major vegetation types, which
          typically encompass the late Holocene Epoch including the present, including likely
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   climatic conditions  within the planning period.   The climatic period is typically
   centuries to millennia in length,  a period of time that is long enough to encompass
   the variability that species and ecosystems have experienced." (Id.)
   To paraphrase the  definition, for a project to claim that an area is outside of the
   range of variability, according to the 2000 NFMA definition, it would need to make the
   case that the area has not seen current conditions in a length of time encompassing
   the late Holocene  Epoch- a period of centuries to millennia in length.  The DEIS
   utterly fails to make the case that the current vegetative condition failed to exist at
   any time within the late Holocene Epoch.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Moscow, ID - #22.33.13100.133)

   RESPONSE:
   A characterization of range of variability within a given time scale requires historical
   data with enough statistical integrity  to be meaningful.   Although there are a few
   historical records mostly in narrative form, comparing those records with the current
   data set is arbitrary at best due to changing definitions of terms.  At best, those
   records extend back to 1860. Therefore, to attempt to manage within the range  of
   the Holocene Epoch would encompass such fluctuation and variability as to be
   meaningless.  This project is not based on range of variability and does not rely on
   conjecture  as to the former vegetative  state of  the area.  Instead, the treatments
   proposed are designed to promote the health and vigor of timber stands and improve
   the environment for long-lived, fire resistant species.
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B. BY RECOGNIZING THAT DEFINITIONS OF HRV SHOULD BE BASED ON DATA FROM
   EXTENDED TIME PERIODS
   In the mid-1800s, the event known as the Little Ice Age was ending. It may be that
   climatic change made conditions for fires like those in the early 1900s which to occur
   and become  the major determinants  of the landscape of today.  It is also possible
   that fires like those in the past century occurred on more than one occasion since the
   retreat of the glaciers.   Paleoecological research shows the importance of climate
   change in governing vegetation (Webb and Bartlein 1992).
   Vegetation  changes seem to lag  behind  climate change (Johnson et a/.  1994).
   When  looking at the bigger picture that takes into account climatic shins, and not
   some narrow, snapshot-in-time view, the concept of a normal fire frequency may not
   be valid. (Walder 1995). Research being conducted by Grant Meyer and others on
   the Boise National Forest shows this to be the  case.  In that case, it  appears big
   stand replacing events occurred in ponderosa pine forests between 900 and 1200
   due to climatic conditions.
   Given climate change and the very real possibility that site potential for various types
   have changed (soil pH and chemistry, moisture,  soil temperature)  because of it, the
   view of HRV on anything less than a time scale that takes into account climate shifts
   may be inadequate.  That is especially true given the dramatic and  scientifically
   documented  increases in global temperature over the past few  years.  The past
   decade was the warmest on record. Again, the DEIS and supporting documents do
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    not define the HRV so it is impossible to assess the assumptions behind the HRV,
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -#22.36.13100.260)
    The DEIS's apparent  definition  of HRV  seems very narrow,  without  conclusive
   justification and focusing mainly on ponderosa pine types. The SFLA notes much of
    the analysis area is outside the HRV and the DEIS implies this is because of fire
    suppression (NOTE: The SFLA is not completely clear on the current conditions and
    their causes, there is equivocation and inconsistency in that document) yet it would
    seem the DEIS maintains that the big fires of the early 1900s, natural events as far
    as we know, put this area outside the HRV. Thus, it would appear the HRV ought to
    be able to  account for these events.  (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
    Moscow, ID - #22.34. 13100.277)
    What range of time is being used to determine HRV and  is it  long enough to be
    accurate?  What proof is there to refute scientific  findings  that  forest conditions in
    1850 or 1900 were only  a few frames and not  representative of an  ecological
    perspective that  should be from two to three  thousand years in  length (see Walder
    1995 and Johnson et. al 1994)?

    The steady-state theory of ecology is inappropriate for time scales more than 200
    years in length. (Webb and Bartlein 1992) Certainly, the goal is to have national
    forests in perpetuity. A time frame of 200 years only takes us back to Lewis and
    Clark, a time not so distant when the Nez Perce National Forest  was considered
    pad of the public domain of the USA by the federal government (though disputed
    with the British)  just as it is today.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
    Moscow, ID - #22.35. 13100.330)

    RESPONSE
    Refer to response to comment  125.   A  review of recent literature  which
    documents vegetative changes  during  the  Holocene   Epoch   (Brunelle and
    Whitlock, 2002; Mayewski, et al, 2004; Davis et al;  2002) that wide fluctuations
    have occurred in species composition, density, and fire regimes.  The purpose
    and need (Section 1 .3) does not use HRV as an analysis parameter.
C. BY DESCRIBING THE FACTORS. SUCH AS FIRE AND INSECTS. ASSUMED TO BE AFFECTING
   STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS OVER TIME.

   Any forest condition that is maintained through intense mechanical manipulation is
   not maintaining  ecosystem function.  We request site-specific disclosure of the
   historical data used to arrive at any assumption of "desired conditions."  We don't
   believe the proposed management activities are designed to foster the processes
   that naturally shaped the ecosystem and resulted in  a range of natural  structural
   conditions, they  are merely designed to recreate  what the agency believes were
   structural  conditions in  a single  point in  time that  the  FS  considers  "natural."
   Generally, past process regimes are better understood than past forest  structure.
   How are you factoring in fire, insects, tree diseases, and other natural disturbances
   in specifying the structural conditions you assume to be representative of the historic
   range? (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -#22.38.13100.330)
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          RESPONSE:
          This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
          within  the project and surrounding area (refer to FEIS, Chapter 1, Section  1.5.
          Please review the purpose and need and forest Plan direction from the FEIS
          Chapter 1, Section 3.
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126.  The Final EIS should define the terms "dying" and "at risk".

      The FE/S needs to clearly define the following terms: "dying" and "at risk to Mountain
      Pine Beetle attack" (Page  III).   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID -
      #15.13.21100.001)
      RESPONSE:
      The term "dying" refers to the cessation of transport  of water and nutrients within a tree.
      The first sign of beetle-caused  mortality is generally  discolored  foliage. Needles on
      successfully infested trees begin fading  and changing  color several months to 1 year
      after the trees have been attacked. The needles change from green to yellowish green,
      then sorrel, red, and  finally rusty brown.  Fading begins  in the  lower  crown  and
      progresses upward. Besides having pitch tubes, successfully infested trees will have dry
      boring dust, similar to fine sawdust, in bark crevices and around the  base of the tree.
      Sometimes, however, infested trees can have boring dust, but not pitch tubes. These
      trees, called blind attacks, are common during drought years when trees produce  little
      pitch. When the beetles attack, they carry blue-staining fungi into the  tree. After one to
      several months, the sapwood begins to discolor.
      The term  "at risk to Mountain Pine Beetle attack" refers to any species of pinus. In the
      American  and Crooked River project area  the  majority of the pinus is lodgepole pine.
      Beetles usually select larger lodgepole pines  that have thick phloem.  They need
      adequate  food,  found in large- diameter trees, for their population to build up. After the
      larger lodgepole pines are killed,  beetles  infest smaller and smaller trees, where phloem
      is thin and excessive drying occurs. Beetle populations then decline to endemic levels.
      High-risk  lodgepole pine  stands  have an average  age of more  than 80, an  average
      diameter at breast height of more than  8 inches (20  cm), and a suitable climate for
      beetle development based on elevation and latitude.
      In second-growth ponderosa pine, high-risk stands have a high stand basal area, a
      single story, and an average diameter at breast height more than 10 inches (25 cm).

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      Timber Management

127.  The Nez Perce National  Forest should not harvest timber.

      A. In particular, I oppose plans to log in the East Fork of the American River and
          Kirks Fork.  (Individual, Seattle, WA -  #8.2.34000.001)
          I am of the opinion that logging will continue to  damage this area. (Individual,
          Minneapolis, MN - #17.2.34000.200)
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    We believe that the large amount of road construction and salvage harvests
   proposed are completely inappropriate given the degraded condition of this
   drainage.      (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,    Boise,   ID
   #15.2.34000.247)

   RESPONSE:

   The proposed logging  in the American and  Crooked River project is one  method
   which can be used to respond to the Purpose and Need (refer to FEIS, Chapter 1,
   Section 1.3). Briefly, the purpose  of the project is to reduce existing and potential
   forest fuels, create conditions that  will contribute to sustaining long-lived fire tolerant
   tree species (ponderosa pine, western larch) and contribute to  the economic and
   social well-being of people who use and reside within the surrounding area.

   The analysis of each alternative displays  the effects  to  various resources.
   Standards  and  guidelines from the Forest Plan will  maintain  effects  within
   accepted limits  of  change  (refer  to Regulatory Framework.   The proposed  -
   restoration projects and mitigations will offset any potential damage from logging
   and result in an upward trend for the watersheds as a whole.
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B. BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING AND ROADBUILDING DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEM

   1.   Road building and logging destroy ecosystems. (Individual, Loveland,  CO -
       #12.4.34000.201)

       RESPONSE:

       Analysis  of  the  effects of the  proposed  actions on  various  resources
       demonstrate that the project will help restore landscape patterns which have
       been fragmented from past actions. Ecosystem processes and functions will
       remain intact.

       With  respect to terrestrial wildlife, some of the  impacts to  wildlife will be
       positive  including improvement of elk habitat effectiveness.   Reductions in
       miles of road, which is also part of this project, will offer restorative habitat
       quality improvements for other species as  well.

       of this project, will  offer restorative habitat quality improvements for other
       species as well.
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   2.   / understand that the Forest Service is proposing to build some 14 miles of
       new  roads and log thousands of acres.  The Forest  Service has  good
       intentions to help improve the watershed, and I think that other options need
       to be considered before logging.  Please don't  let the  road-building and
       logging take place.  (Individual,  Pullman, WA - #33.2.34000.247)

       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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      C.  BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING SPEEDS UP THE PROGRESS OF FIRE AND COMPROMISES
          SOIL QUALITY

          Logging the biggest and strongest trees speeds up the progress of a fire and
          compromises soil quality. (Individual, Loveland, CO-#12.2.34000.002)

          RESPONSE:

          The biggest, strongest  trees which appear to be  most resistant to effects of a
          changing climate  are the trees that  will remain in the treated areas.  Refer to the
          objectives portion of Chapter 1, Section 1.3.
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      D.  BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING DOES NOT REDUCE FIRE DANGER
          / invite you to review the quotes I have supplied in the Appendix [ATTMT:1].
          Some are  from government documents and some are from  environmental
          groups.  All are  valid.  They all relate to why logging, timber harvest, and
          mechanical fuel removal actually increase the fire risk in the forest.  I will expect
          a response to each quote in our FEIS telling me: 1) why the quote does not
          apply to your project, and/or, 2) why the science (which was the basis for the
          quote) is incorrect.  All of the quotes say that logging large commercial sized
          stems does not reduce fire danger.  In fact, some of the quotes say that due to
          the small activity fuels left after logging, commercial logging actually increases
          fire danger.  (Individual, Grangeville, ID-#30.13.34000.270)
          The activities  (road construction and salvage harvest) described do little to
          protect homes and communities from fire in any meaningful way, and may in
          fact exacerbate fire danger, severity and intensity.  (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Boise, ID - #15.4.34000.271)

          RESPONSE:
          This project's purpose is to reduce fuels at the individual treatment site and also
          at the watershed levels.  Other projects such as Crooked River Defensible Space
          are designed specifically to protect structures.  The way this project is designed it
          will help to protect other critical resources such as wildlife habitat,  water quality,
          recreation opportunities, and infrastructures such as roads and bridges to name
          a few.
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128.  The Nez Perce National Forest should harvest timber.

      A.  BECAUSE WILDLAND FIRE CAN LEAD TO INCREASED SEDIMENT LOADS
          / understand some sediment may find its way into the creeks and rivers from the
          logging and road building.   This situation  is only short-term, however, and is
          much preferred to the stream-choking mud slides that frequently happen after a
          wildfire burns off the vegetation and sterilizes the soil. (Individual, Lewiston, ID -
          #7.2.34000.230)
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    RESPONSE:

    Comparing the sediment produced by road building and harvest to sediment
    from a potential wildfire is a complicated task. Some of the factors that need to
    be considered:

    •    Logging and harvest effects are relatively known quantities,  predictable in
       extent, time and  location.  Severe  storm years can heighten impacts of
       logging and road building.  Permanent roads do produce peak sediment for
       a few years after construction,  and continue to produce chronic levels of
       sediment throughout their life.   Sediment from  most harvest  units typically
       declines to negligible after 5 years (Cline, et a/, 1981). Modeled effects of
       sediment due to past wildfires, road building and logging are shown in the
       watershed section of the FEIS.  These estimates indicate that although peak
       sediment from  fires was high,  chronically elevated sediment from roads
       continues to affect watersheds in the project area.

    •    Sediment effects  from any  particular  fire  are influenced  by  fire size,
       severity, and location, interaction with existing road systems or susceptible
       soils,  and intense storms or rapid spring  runoff during the 1-10 years
       following wildfire (Wondzell and King 2003).  Large  severe fires in  the
       project area occur under a combination of drought, high temperatures,  low
       humidity, and  strong winds (Schoennagel et a/., 2004).   Under these
       conditions, scattered fuel treatments may have  slight effects on overall fire
       size and severity.  This means  that such a fire could occur even with the
       proposed harvest, so effects of fire might not  be averted by harvest and
       road building, but compounded.

    •    Under  more  moderate burning conditions, fires  could  be more  easily
       suppressed, and  potential fire  size reduced,  by using harvest  areas as
       control points and fuel breaks. This is part of the rationale for the proposed
       harvest and fuel reduction.  See Section 3.4.2.

    •    Effects on streams from fires and road  building are complex in time and
       space.  Road  building generally produces fine sediments, and may little
       affect  flow quantity, so that streambeds  are more susceptible to filling of
       pools and spawning gravels with sand and silt.  Fire effects on streams can
       vary  from  negligible  to  dramatic,  short-lived to long  term.   Aquatic
       researchers now  acknowledge  the  important  role of  natural wildfires in
       structuring stream habitats, providing not only fine sediments, but also large
       wood and large sediments (Bisson et a/., 2003).  Fires also  may result in
       increased flows that arrange these materials in the stream to build pools and
       spawning gravels.   Some effects can be negative, especially considered
       over the short term, when individual  fish may be killed,  fine sediments
       increased, or channels scoured in tributaries.
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B.  BECAUSE IT WILL ASSIST THE LOCAL ECONOMY

    The logging will add to the local economy and provide enough lumber to build
    some  1,500  average-sized  family homes.   (Individual,  Lewiston,  ID  -
    #7.4.34000.814)
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   We believe cut levels can be increased to better accomplish project objectives,
   and improve  the economics of the project.  (Timber/Wood Products Industry,
   Kamiah, ID-#5.18.34300.800)

   RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
C. BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING INCREASES OPENINGS AND CREATES BIG GAME FORAGE
   The Concerned Sportsmen of Idaho believes that more trees could and should
   be  harvested to increase the openings in closed  forest canopy areas so that
   grasses,  forbs and brush can  be grown  to create much-needed elk forage.
   (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Viola, ID - #2.2.34300.330)

   RESPONSE:

   There are a number of issues and considerations  that had to be integrated  into
   the proposal to limit impacts on resources.  The increased habitat effectiveness
   resulting  from overall reduction in miles  of open roads and reduced  human
   disturbances will benefit elk.
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D. TO  EXPAND TIMBER VOLUME FOR BIG GAME
   1.   The timber harvest units remove only an average of 8.6 MBF/acre, bringing
       into question  whether enough volume is being removed to open  crown
       canopies to sufficiently reduce competition and encourage big game forage
       production.  We further question if the removal of only 1.3 MBF/acre in the
       roadside  salvage will  accomplish  objectives.   (Timber/Wood  Products
       Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.8.34300.330)

       RESPONSE:
       The intensity of planned harvests  along with liberal use  of prescription fire
       afterward, will serve  to stimulate resprouting and growth of additional nutritious
       forage for big game in most units.  In the roadside salvage, the more limited
       removal of standing timber was planned in part, to incorporate some protection
       for minimal amounts of hiding cover along roads which would generate additional
       forage without sacrificing large amounts of hiding cover adjacent to roads.
                                   esses cs

   2.   While creating elk forage on the spectrum of range referred to above, the
       CERT (Clearwater Elk Recovery Team)  encourages you  to expand the
       timber volume taken so as to insure [sic] that openings in the forest are
       numerous  enough to accomplish  the task for depleted elk herds  while
       remaining     within    Forest    Plan    old    growth    standards.
       (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #1.4.34300.350)

       RESPONSE:
       A number of issues  and considerations had to be integrated into the proposal,
       not just producing elk forage. The intensity of planned harvests along with liberal
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             use of prescription fire afterward, will serve to stimulate resprouting and growth of
             additional nutritious forage for big game in  most units.  Forest plan old growth
             standards for old growth will be met.
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129.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider research that addresses
      timber harvest.

      A.  BECAUSE RESEARCH ADDRESSES POST-HARVEST SLASH DISPOSAL

          Research from the Hayman Fire (2002) has determined that pine needles, if not
          burned by the fire, can provide significant protection to the soil surface  when
          they fall to  the ground (Interim and Final Hayman Fire Case Study Analyses,
          2002 & 2003). By applying regeneration harvests, the  beneficial impact of this
          material is not realized.  Instead, slash is deposited on the ground and burned in
          piles, thereby vastly  increasing the potential for soil erosion and subsequent
          sedimentation of critical spawning habitat forESA listed species.

          Post-logging  slash disposal is  critical  and a  number of factors should  be
          considered in the project design and implementation. Machine and jackpot burn
          piles restricted, and  if necessitated, should be evenly distributed throughout
          logging units. Large piles create excessive heat, create potassium and nitrogen
          overloading in small areas,  and can negatively  impact soil resources.  Smaller
          piles, evenly distributed, or broadcast burning is  preferred.   However,  the
          burning of these materials still can contribute to significant erosion problems on
          the   forest.     (Preservation/Conservation    Organization,    Boise,   ID    -
          #15.105.34400.201)

          RESPONSE:

          Design criteria will be incorporated into silvicultural  prescriptions,  which will
          include the method/amount of retention and/or removal of materials.  In addition,
          contract clauses will include  design criteria  that limit  the size,  location,  and
          structure  of piles.  Furthermore,  site-specific burn plans will be  developed for
          each burn unit.  This will include pre-ignition analysis of factors  such as wind
          speed, humidity,  temperature,  slope,  aspect  and  duff moisture.   Ignitions
          performed under these conditions would limit the detrimental effects to residual
          stands and the soil resource.
          Post  harvest  slash  disposal,  broadcast and jackpot  burning, is  typically
          accomplished during times of the year when duff moistures are high  enough  to
          prevent the total  consumption of the duff.  The duff that  remains provides soil
          protection against runoff, and continues to provide nutrient cycling to the  soil.
          Machine piles located within the unit are typically smaller in size and  distributed
          fairly evenly throughout the units.
                                           (33(33(33
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B. BECAUSE RESEARCH INDICATES TIMBER HARVESTING. ROADS. AND OTHER HUMAN
   DISTURBANCES PROMOTE THE SPREAD OF TREE DISEASE AND INSECT INFESTATION

   The FS often makes a case for logging as a way to reduce insect and disease
   damage to timber stands As far as we are aware, the FS has no empirical
   evidence to indicate its "treatments" for "forest health" decrease, rather than
   increase, the incidence of insects and diseases in the forest.  Since the FS
   doesn't cite research that proves otherwise in this DEIS we can only conclude
   that "forest health" discussions are unscientific and biased toward logging as a
   "solution."  Please consider the large body of research that indicates  logging,
   roads, and  other human caused  disturbance  promote  the spread  of tree
   diseases and insect infestation.
   For example,  multiple  studies have  shown  that  annosus  root  disease
   (Heterobasidion  annosum,  formerly named  Fomes annosus),  a fungal root
   pathogen that is often fatal or damaging for pine, fir,  and hemlock in  western
   forests, has increased in western forests as a  result of logging (Smith 1989).
   And researchers have noted that the incidence of annosus root disease in true
   fir and ponderosa pine stands increased with  the  number of logging entries
   (Goheen and Goheen 1989).  Large stumps served as  infection foci for the
   stands, although significant mortality was not obvious until 10 to 15 years after
   logging (Id).
   The proportion of western hemlock trees infected by annosus root  disease
   increased after pre-commercial thinning, due to  infection of stumps and logging
   equipment wounds (Edmonds et al 1989,  Chavez, et al. 1980).
   Armillaria, a primary, aggressive root pathogen of pines, true firs, and Douglas-
   fir in western interior forests, spreads into healthy stands  from the stumps and
   roots of cut trees (Wargo and Shaw 1985).  The fungus colonizes stumps and
   roots of cut trees, then spreads to adjacent healthy trees.   Roots of large trees
   in particular can support the fungus for many years because they are moist and
   large enough for the fungus to survive, and disease  centers can  expand to
   several hectares in size, with  greater than 25% of the trees affected in a stand
   (id) Roth et al. (1980) also noted that Armillaria was present in  stumps of old-
   growth ponderosa pine logged up to 35 years earlier, with the oldest stumps
   having the highest rate of infection.
   Filip (1979) observed that mortality of saplings was significant correlated to the
   number of Douglas-fir stumps infected with Armillaria me/tea and laminated root
   rot (Phellinus weirii).  McDonald, et al.  (1987) concluded the pathogenic fungus
   Armillaria had a threefold higher occurrence on disturbed plots compared to
   pristine plots at high productivity sites in  the Northern Rockies.  Those authors
   also  reviewed past studies on Armillaria,  noting  a   clear link between
   management and the severity of Armillaria-caused disease.
   Morrison and Mallett (1996) observed that infection  and mortality from the root
   disease Armillaria ostoyae  was several times higher in forest stands with
   logging disturbance than in undisturbed stands,  and that adjacent residual trees
   as well as  new  regeneration became  infected when their roots  came  into
   contact with roots from infected stumps.
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 Pre-commercial thinning  and soil  disturbance  led  to  an increased  risk of
 infection and mortality by black- stain root disease (Leptographium wageneri) in
 Douglas-fir, with the majority of infection centers being close to roads and skid
 trails (Hansen et al. 1988) Also another Black-stain root disease (Verticicladiella
 wagenerii) occurred at a greater frequency in Douglas-fir trees close to roads
 than in trees located 25 in or more from roads (Hansen 1978). Witcosky et al.
 (1986) also noted that pre-commercially thinned stands  attracted a greater
 number of black-stain root disease insect vectors.

 Complex interactions involve mechanical damage from logging, infestation by
 root diseases, and attacks by insects.  Aho et al. (1987) saw that mechanical
 wounding of grand fir and white fir by logging  equipment activated dormant
 decay fungi, including the Indian paint fungus (Echinodontium tinctorium).

 Trees stressed by logging, and therefore more susceptible to root diseases are,
 in turn, more susceptible to attack by insects.   Goheen and Hansen  (1993)
 reviewed the association between pathogenic  fungi  and  bark beetles in
 coniferous forests, noting that root disease fungi predispose  some  conifer
 species to bark beetle attack and/or help maintain endemic populations of bark
 beetles.

 Goheen  and Hansen (1993) observed that live trees infected with Laminated
 root rot  (Phellinus weirii) have a greater likelihood of attack by Douglas-fir
 beetles (Dendroctonus pseudotsugae). Also, Douglas- fir trees weakened by
 Black-stain  root disease  (Leptographium wageneri var.  pseudotsugae)  are
 attacked and killed by a variety of bark beetle species, including the Douglas-fir
 bark  beetle (D.   pseudotsugae)  and  the Douglas-fir engraver  (Scolytus
 unispinosis) (id.).

 The root disease  Leptographium  wageneri var. ponderosurn  predisposes
ponderosa pine to several bark beetle species, including the mountain pine
 beetle  (D. ponderosae)  and the western pine beetle (D. brevicomis) (Goheen
 and Hansen 1993).

A variety of root diseases, including black-slain,  Armillaria, and brown cubical
butt rot  (Phaeolus schweinitzii).    predispose  lodgepole  pine  to attack by
mountain pine beetles  in the interior west The  diseases are  also believed to
provide stressed host trees that help maintain endemic populations of mountain
pine beetle or trigger population increases at the start of an outbreak (Goheen
and Hansen 1993).

 Grand  and white fir trees  in interior mixed-conifer forests have been found to
have a high likelihood  of attack by  the fir engraver (Scolytus ventralis) when
they are  infected by root diseases, such as laminated root rot, Armillaria, and
annosus (Goheen and Hansen 1993).

More western pine  beetles (Dendroetonus breviformis) and mountain pine
beetles (D. ponderosae) were captured on trees infected by black-stain root
disease (Ceratocystis wageneri) than on uninfected trees (Goheen  et al.  1985).
 The two  species of beetle were more frequently attracted to wounds on trees
that were also diseased than to uninfected trees.  They also noted that the red
turpentine beetle (Dendroctonus valens) attacked trees at wounds, with  attack
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         rates seven-to-eight times higher on trees infected with black-stain root disease
         than  uninfected trees.  Spondylis upiformis attacked only wounded trees, not
         unwounded trees.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID  -
         #22.46.34000.373)

         RESPONSE:
         Comment acknowledged.

         The  stands proposed for  treatment  are  susceptible  and  contain  some  of  the
         pathogens and insects described.  Most have a negative growth value (more dying
         than growing)  and are in  a state of decline. The purpose of the project is to reduce
         existing and potential forest fuels, create conditions that will contribute to sustaining
         long-lived fire tolerant tree species (ponderosa pine, western  larch).  Refer to FEIS,
         Chapter 1, Section  1.3.  Ponderosa  pine and western larch are the forest tree
         species most resistant to fire, insects, and diseases found in the project area.

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130.  The Nez Perce National Forest should focus  on stands farthest outside the
      historic range.
      The  Forest Service should focus on those stands that are  the  farthest outside  of the
      historic range (i.e. the 3.2% of the project area that exhibits frequent, non-lethal fire
      regimes). (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.96.33000.277)

      RESPONSE:
      Comment acknowledged. Historic range is a concept based on scale (e.g., temporal
      and  spatial).   Only focusing only on the  stands that are farthest outside of their
      historic range would not fulfill the purpose of this project - which is related to reducing
      existing and potential forest  fuels by removing the dead, dying,  and downed trees
      that would otherwise result in high fuel loadings
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131.   The Nez Perce  National Forest should conduct an inventory of the types
      and sizes of downed  woody material.
      Fallen snags that lean against other trees serve as important subnivean access  points
      for mesocarnivores such as Fisher and American Marten. An inventory of the types and
      sizes  of  downed  woody  material  should   be  included   in   the  treatments.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.129.30100.330)

      RESPONSE:
      Over the next 10  years  or so,  many thousands of acres of unharvested lodgepole
      pine will  progressively convert to snags, most of which will  fall,  lean or "jackstraw"
      forming excellent  subnivean habitat.  Given the vast amounts  of dead and  dying
      lodgepole pine in  the analysis area, and  the fact  that planned  treatment acreage
      would fall far short of even 10 percent of the local landscape, the  growth of important
      subnivean  habitats formed by fallen snags from many acres of unharvested dead
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        by reference to the Forest Plan. Refer to Chapter 3 of the FEIS for additional
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    analysis identified opportunities to improve existing conditions.  Decisions concerning
    these opportunities, however, are left to a site-specific NEPA analysis (such as this).
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     RESPONSE:

     An adequate range of alternatives was considered. A restoration only alternative
     was considered but not analyzed in detail because it would not be responsive to
     the Purpose and Need of this project. (Refer to FEIS, Chapter 1.)
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24.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD OBJECTIVELY COMPARE THE
     ALTERNATIVES REGARDING VISUAL QUALITY OBJECTIVES.

     The Forest Service needs to objectively compare the alternatives regarding visual quality
     objectives. Although dead and dying trees would still remain visible with less harvesting,
     the Forest Service needs to  consider that when the needles drop off the red crowns will
     be replaced by much /ess striking bare limbs.  The Red Tree Fuels Reduction Project in
     the Sawtooth NRA cites this fact as a reason to leave many stands intact. In areas that
     are not logged,  natural regeneration  (through forest  successional cycles) will also
     replace the forest where trees have been killed by mountain pine beetles without the
     negative association with clear-cuts. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID
     -#15.138.23000.715)
     RESPONSE:

     The VQOs specified in the  Forest Plan are not similar to those  of the Sawtooth
     National Recreation Area.

     The FEIS (Chapter 3, Section 3.6), objectively  compares the alternatives regarding
     visual  quality  objectives.  This project is treating less than  nine percent  of the
     analysis area.   The disturbance  process of insect infestation and  subsequent
     mortality is occurring on many of the untreated acres and may be viewed there.
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25.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ADOPT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT
     EMPHASIZES ECOSYSTEM QUALITY AND INTEGRITY.

     Please consider an alternative that  addresses diversity, quality of animal  and plant
     habitat, soil health, and water quality.  (Individual, Moscow, ID-#23.3.23100.201)
     RESPONSE:

     A restoration only alternative was  considered but not analyzed in detail because it
     would  not be responsive to the Purpose and Need of this project (FEIS Chapter  1,
     Section 1.3).

     The alternatives were analyzed for effects on wildlife,  fish, soil conditions, and water
     quality. Please see FEIS Chapter 3 - Sections 3.1-3.3 and 3.11.  Forest composition
     and structural diversity were addressed in the Section  3.10. Extensive design criteria
     and mitigation  measures (refer to Chapter 2, Table 2.1) were developed to protect
     old  growth,  riparian  areas,  snags,  sensitive  slopes,  listed,  sensitive,  and
     management indicator  species,  down wood, water quality, fish  habitat, and soils.
    Additional soil and water improvement activities were  identified which are expected
    to result in improved long-term conditions  for the affected watersheds, including
    wildlife security as well as soil and water quality.  Please see Appendix D.
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    Thinning of ladder fuels, as called for in one of the comments, would reduce the
    possibility for fire to transition from a surface to a crown fire for a short time frame.
    Though as the dead and dying trees in the stands start to fall we will again have a
    high potential for fire transition to occur due to the high fire intensities generated by
    this type of fuel bed.
    Please also refer to responses to items 7(B), 7(D) and 25.
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 No ACTION ALTERNATIVE

28. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT ADOPT THE No ACTION'
    ALTERNATIVE.'

    BECAUSE THE NO ACTION ALTERNATIVE IGNORES WHAT CATASTROPHIC FIRE WOULD DO
    TO WILDLIFE AND OTHER RESOURCES
    The purpose and objectives are  adequate  and focused.  The No Action Alternative
    ignores what catastrophic  fire can and would do to fish and other resources and,
    therefore,   does  not   comply   with  the   project's  purpose   and  objectives.
    (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #1.3.23510.270)

    RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.
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 ALTERNATIVE C

29. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT ADOPT ALTERNATIVE C.

    BECAUSE IT is TOO SIMPLISTIC AND UNDERSTATES THE DAMAGE CREATED BY THESE
    PROJECTS
    The public  is not well served by overt emphasis  put upon simplified projects to
    supposedly  overcome  this  fire  problem   while  completely understating  the
    accompanying damage created by these projects.  What we may well end up with is
    a very good stream of timber to the timber industry (this is not to suggest that this is,
    in itself, bad) while continuing to inflict near irreversible damage to other aspects of
    the forest ecosystem.   Until these risks are all given equal weight and  are fully
    disclosed to the public I am  adamantly opposed to the selection of Alternative C
    because it  is  dangerously too simplistic.    (Individual,  Post Falls,  ID  -
    #19.12.23530.200)

    RESPONSE:

    Comment acknowledged. Alternative  D is the selected alternative. This alternative
    includes increased emphasis on watershed restoration.
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 ALTERNATIVE D

30. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ADOPT THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE
    D.

    A.  BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE D INTEGRATES WELL WITH OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS ON
        BLM AND PRIVATE LANDS.
        The RAC (Resource Advisory Committee- North Central Idaho)  endorses the
        preferred alternative D, as described in the DEIS, because the alternative would
        integrate well with other potential projects on BLM and private lands near Elk
        City. (Place Based Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.4.23540. 100)

        RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.  Please refer to response to item 29.
    B. BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE D WOULD PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF HAZARDOUS FUEL
       REDUCTION IN CRITICAL AREAS NEAR ELK CITY

       7776  RAC (Resource Advisory Committee- North Central Idaho) endorses the
       preferred alternative D, as described in the DEIS, because the alternative would
       provide a high level of hazardous fuel reduction in  critical areas near Elk City.
       (Place Based Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.1.23540.271)

       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.  Please refer to response to item 29.
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    C. BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE D WOULD RESULT IN LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS IN
       ANADROMOUS FISH HABITAT AND ELK HABITAT

       The  RAC (Resource Advisory Committee- North Central Idaho) endorses the
       preferred alternative D, as described in the DEIS, Because the alternative would
       result in long-term improvements in anadromous fish habitat and elk habitat while
       incorporating design elements minimizing possible short-term adverse effects to
       these important resources. (Place Based Group,  Lewiston, ID - #3.5.23540.300)

       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.  Please refer to response to item 29.
                                   caches
    D. BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE D WOULD PROMOTE HEALTHY FOREST AND WATERSHED
       CONDITIONS

       The  RAC (Resource Advisory Committee- North Central Idaho) endorses the
       preferred alternative D, as described in the DEIS, because the alternative would
       promote  healthy forest  and watershed  conditions.   (Place  Based  Group,
       Lewiston, ID -#3.2.23540.330)

       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.  Please refer to response to item 29.
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    E.  BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE D WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC
        WELL-BEING OF THE LOCAL AREA

        The RAC (Resource Advisory Committee-  North Central Idaho) endorses the
        preferred alternative D, as described in the DEIS, because the alternative would
        contribute to the social and economic well-being of the local area. (Place Based
        Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.3.23540.800)

        RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged. Please refer to response to item 29.
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31 .  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT ADOPT THE PREFERRED
    ALTERNATIVE D.

    A.  BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D PROPOSES ACTIVITIES THAT WILL
        INCREASE SHORT-TERM SEDIMENTATION

        1 .  The South fork of the Clearwater is listed for water temperature and sediment.
           On page 89 it is noted that, "No specific targets were set for tributaries, but it
           was recognized that much of the sediment yield reduction would need to take
          place in the tributaries. " The Proposed Action undermines  the intent and goal
          of designation by proposing  activities  that the DEIS  acknowledges  will
          increase short-term sedimentation.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
          Boise, ID - #15.27.23540. 137)
          RESPONSE:

          The implementation plan for the South  Fork Clearwater River TMDLs
          has not yet been developed. However, the IDEQ has recognized that
          short term increases in sediment yield may be allowed in a 303(d) listed
          water body listed for sediment, as long as a net decrease in  sediment
          yield is shown and beneficial uses are not impaired.  We believe that
          this Project meets these criteria.  These concepts are documented in a
          November 4, 2003, letter from IDEQ  to the  Idaho Panhandle National
          Forests and in draft guidance posted on IDEQ's website on April  8,
          2004.
       2.  We have assigned a rating of EC-2 (Environmental Concerns - Insufficient
          Information) to the preferred alternative D. EPA appreciates the U.S. Forest
          Service's (USFS's)  efforts to minimize adverse environmental impacts from
          timber harvest and commitment to working toward restoring water quality and
          fish habitat  in  the American and Crooked  Rivers.   However,  we are
          concerned about the potential impacts of timber harvest and construction of
          new roads on sediment yields to streams that are impaired from sediment
          and toss of shade. (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24. 1.23540.234)
          RESPONSE:

          The impacts  of  timber harvest  and  construction of new  roads on
          sediment yields are disclosed in Chapter 3 and Appendix E of the FEIS.
          These impacts are  believed to be in compliance with the Clean Water
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      Act,  Idaho  State Water Quality  Standards  and  the  South  Fork
      Clearwater River TMDLs.
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B. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D WOULD VIOLATE FISH/WATER
   QUALITY OBJECTIVES UNDER THE FOREST PLAN
   Given that Bull  Trout, Steelhead Trout and Chinook Salmon exist in the Rivers,
   and the risk of sedimentation is high in the short-term under the proposed action,
   the Proposed Action clearly does not meet the goal and intent of the Forest Plan
   in this  regard.    The Proposed  Action  would also violate fish/water quality
   objectives under  the Forest Plan.   On  page 89  it is stated  that,  "The Plan
   recognizes that many of these watersheds  do  not meet fish/water quality
   objectives under current conditions.   The Plan stipulates that an upward trend in
   aquatic habitat  carrying capacity be  established in  below objective watersheds.
   This is accomplished by limiting new disturbance.  By proposing new roads and
   timber harvesting that will further degrade the watersheds; the project clearly fails
   to limit new disturbances.  Allowing short-term degradation while proposing long-
   term restoration is contrary to the objectives and intent of the Plan since it clearly
   states that a limitation of new disturbance is necessary.  Offsets are not enough
   to meet this criterion.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
   #15.49.23540.160)
   RESPONSE:
   It has been determined that the selected alternative meets the upward trend
   requirements stated in Appendix A of the Forest Plan. The rationale for this
   conclusion is found in Chapter 3 and Appendix E of the FEIS.
C. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D WOULD NOT MINIMIZE THE SPREAD
   AND ESTABLISHMENT OF NOXIOUS WEEDS
   The Forest Plan requires that the Forest Service  minimize the creation of sites
   suitable for weed establishment (Noxious  Weed Management, Supplement No,
   R1 2000-2002-1).   The  proposed  action will not minimize  and will in  fact
   exacerbate the spread and establishment of noxious weeds through 15 miles of
   road construction and 24 miles of reconstruction.  (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID -#15.89.23540.1 60)
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   RESPONSE:

   Through the analysis a set of project design criteria or mitigation requirements
   have been established to address the risk  of weed spread and colonization
   resulting from the proposed  project.   The design criteria include prevention
   measures,  spot treatment, monitoring, re-survey  of risk zones for changes in
   weed infestations and, where appropriate, the re-vegetation of disturbed soil
   (Chapter 2 Design Criteria).  The implementation of these invasive plant design
   criteria  would insure that  weed spread  from  ground  disturbing  actions  is
   minimized or eliminated.
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D. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D WOULD NOT MEET SOIL QUALITY
   STANDARDS UNDER THE FOREST PLAN

   So/V quality standards under the Forest Plan will not be met under the Preferred
   Action.  The DEIS concedes the potential problems  (at page 40) when it states,
   "?58% [American watershed, 53% for Crooked] of all logging areas would not
   meet the Forest Plan Soil quality standard 2?"   This  makes suspect the
   subsequent claim made that mitigation measures  may offset any differences in
   cumulative effects for each of  the  alternatives.   (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.40.23540.230)
   RESPONSE:

   The analysis of compliance with  soil   quality  standards  has  been
   augmented. Please see the revised narrative in  FEIS Chapter 3,  Section
   3.1,  summary of cumulative  effects for soil physical properties  and
   compliance with Forest Plan standards.
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E. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON
   PINE MARTEN HABITAT

   While old growth stands are supposedly protected from logging under the project,
   we believe the impacts of the Proposed Action on pine marten are dramatically
   understated.  The DEIS acknowledges that clear-cutting of mature stands and
   habitat fragmentation have "seriously affected distribution of marten" (P. 308).  It
   also notes that, "While habitat quantity has increased, habitat quality has  likely
   declined due to loss of larger snags and habitat heterogeneity from fuel-wooding,
   fire suppression,  and loss of large diameter trees due to past timber harvest."
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.85.23540.330)
   RESPONSE:

   The  FEIS acknowledges  effects  of additional harvest and fragmentation
   effects on pine marten habitats,  but also  the discussion cites work from
   Coffin, et al. 2002, which indicates that despite heavily logged and roaded
   areas,  pine marten  can  tolerate and  remain in such areas (see FEIS,
   Chapter 3,  Section 3.11).  The analysis further discusses and assesses
   fragmentation effects and the impacts of the activities.
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    F. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE D WOULD NOT DO ENOUGH TO LIMIT
       IRRESPONSIBLE OHV USE
       The damaging effects of irresponsible OHV use are well documented and could
       be contributing to water quality problems among others.  It is clear that the
       Proposed Action will not do enough to curtail trail blazing.  It is mentioned that
       current restrictions  will  be maintained  and that  the effectiveness is rated as
       "high".  However, on page 39 it states,  "Numerous undocumented user-created
       ATV trails exist, which add to the amount of detrimental disturbance in the project
       area."   This contradiction is highly confusing and leaves one  to  wonder if
       management has fallen  behind the reality of the current situation. Accordingly,
       restrictions and monitoring should  be  increased.   This is also a  reason to
       minimize  road  construction  to  prevent  further  intrusion  into   areas.
       (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.51.23540.501)
       RESPONSE:
       Illegal OHV use does exist  presently and will continue  in the future no
       matter  which alternative is  selected  or  if any  alternative is selected.
       Unfortunately, at present funding levels the problem can not be addressed.
       Illegal use is not expected to change due to implementing any of these
       alternatives.
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32. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD INCREASE EMPHASIS ON FISH HABITAT
    RESTORATION IN ALTERNATIVE D.
    Alternative D appears to be an economically viable proposal.  If there is sufficient
    latitude within your budget or projected revenues to increase the level of fish habitat
    restoration above that shown in Alternative D, we would strongly recommend that
    you  give habitat restoration additional emphasis in your final decision.   Increased
    emphasis on fish habitat restoration,  particularly stream improvements,  would not
    only help recover ESA-listed fish at a faster pace, but would also provide additional
    employment opportunities to the potential  contractors involved with implementing
    those actions on the ground.  (Place Based Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.6.32300.340)
    RESPONSE:
    Comment  acknowledged.   Effects of  additional restoration activities  were  also
    analyzed as Alternative D (modified) for the FEIS.
                                   
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    RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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 ADEQUACY OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT (DEIS)

34. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AND ADDRESS THE
    SHORTCOMINGS AND INCONSISTENCIES OF THE AMERICAN AND CROOKED RlVER
    DEIS.

    A.  Very frankly, everything about this DEIS stinks.   It is obvious that the Forest
        Service is trying to pass-off their hidden agenda on the public under the mask of
        a fuels reduction project.  (Individual, Grangeville, ID - #30.11.21000.820)

        There are several issues that need to be addressed in this document.  They
        include baseline data, the cumulative impacts on the South Fork Clearwater, the
        indicators and parameters identified in the DEIS, the disconnect between water
        quality based upon modeling and fish habitat and how that does not meet the
        forest plan, and  the very different impacts  of pulse disturbances (fire) versus
       press disturbances  (logging  and road building).   (Preservation/Conservation
        Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.18.21100.002)
        RESPONSE:

       The FEIS covers each of these concerns in Chapter 3 and/or Appendix E.
       The issue of Forest Plan compliance is discussed above in the response to
       comment 32.  The linkage between water quality modeling and fish habitat
       is  discussed in the  FEIS.  The effects of pulse versus press disturbances
       due to fire, logging, and road building are disclosed in the Chapter 3.
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    B. BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS ITS DUTY UNDER NEPA TO OFFER AND DISCLOSE TO THE
       PUBLIC A RESONABLE RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES

       The DEIS fails its duty under NEPA  to offer and disclose to the public a
       reasonable range of alternatives that  includes scientifically and  ecologically
       sound management proposals.  The purpose and need was designed in such a
       way as to constrain alternatives and, in so doing,  pie-determined the decision
       prior to issuance of even the DEIS.  (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
       Moscow, ID - #22.13.21000.131)

       A  basic  requirement  of NEPA is that  federal  agencies  must  consider a
       reasonable range of alternative actions in an as.  42 U.S.C. B 4332(2XcXiii); 40
       C.F.R. B 1502.14; Bob Marshall Alliance v. 1-lodel, 852 F.2d 1223(9th Or. 1988),
       cert, denied, 489 U.S. 1066(1988).  The range of alternatives should 'sharply
       [define] the issues and [provide] a clear basis for choice among options by the
       decision maker and the public." Id. Under NEPA, alternatives analysis must:
          (a) Rigorously explore and objectively evaluate all  reasonable
             alternatives,  and  for alternatives  which  were  eliminated from
             detailed study, briefly discuss the reasons for their having been
             eliminated.
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       (c) Include reasonable alternatives not within the jurisdiction  of the
          lead agency.

   40  C.F.R. 8 1502.14 (a) and (a).  See California v. Block,  690 R2d 753,765-
   69(9th Cir. 1982)  (reversing EIS for failure to address reasonable  range of
   alternatives); see also Muckleshoot Indian Tribe v. USFS, 177 F.3d 800(9th Cir.
   1999) (reversing EIS for failure to address reasonable range of alternatives).
   There is a lack of a range of alternatives-or any alternative-thai  examines the
   implications of changing forest  plan management direction as  noted  above.
   There was no real restoration alternative without logging.  Conflation of those
   opposites—logging  and mad building which are damaging and restoration which
   seeks to restore the damage from the pervious two-is dishonest.  Furthermore,
   narrowly defining the purpose and need to require removal of  vegetation (a
   euphemism  for  logging)   violates  NEPA.      (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.14.23100.002)

   The Seventh Circuit recently explained:
   No  decision  is  more important  than  delimiting what   these 'reasonable
   alternatives" are...  One obvious  way for an agency to slip past the strictures of
   NEPA is to contrive a  purpose so slender as to define competing reasonable
   alternatives out  of consideration (and even out of existence).   If the agency
   constricts the definition of the project's purpose and thereby excludes what truly
   are reasonable alternatives, the EIS cannot fulfill its role.

   This DEIS follows that  pattern mentioned by the Court.  In coming up with the
   purpose and need, the  agency has defined the issues to preclude a reasonable
   array of alternatives.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Moscow, ID -
   #22.16.23100.131)

   RESPONSE:

   Contrary to your statement above,  there is no change  in Forest  Plan
   management direction proposed  by this project.  The range of alternatives
   was developed in response to the Purpose and  Need and issues identified
   through scoping. (Refer to FEIS,  Chapters 1 and 2).
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C. BECAUSE THE DEIS USES NON-NEPA DOCUMENTS TO ESTABLISH MANAGEMENT
   DIRECTION
   The DEIS fails to meet  the spirit and intent of NEPA and NFMA requirements by
   using non-NEPA documents to  establish management direction, that coupled
   with an overly narrow Purpose and Need will lead to a predetermined decision
   and constrains the array of alternatives.  In this case, programmatic decisions in
   the South Fork Landscape Assessment, or presumed to be in that assessment,
   to meet some so-called historic range of variability and establish  goals  for
   vegetation (less lodgepole and fir and more ponderosa pine and western larch).
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.9.21000.330)
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   RESPONSE: See response to  item 21.
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D. BECAUSE THE DEIS OFFERS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF
   STREAMS SHOWS AN UPWARD TREND IN WATER QUALITY AND FISH HABITAT
   STANDARDS

   The DEIS recognizes that these streams do not meet forest plan water quality
   and fish habitat standards.  Cobble embeddedness is significant and predicted to
   increase.  Appendix A of the forest plan is quite clear most if not all of the
   streams fall below the mandated percentage of Fishery Water Quality Objectives.
   The DEIS offers no evidence the current condition of those streams has changed
   since Appendix A of the forest plan was completed.
   Appendix A is also clear that streams below objectives must  show (present
   tense)  and upward trend before  logging can  take place.  A future predicted
   upward tend is not sufficient.  The plan is clear on this point.  Real recovery must
   be  taking place before logging and road building can be allowed.   The DEIS
   offers no monitoring data that is indeed the case.
   The DEIS does not seem to  indicate whether the entry frequency guidelines in
   appendix A have been met or exceeded.  Is that information available and if so,
   where  is  it?    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Moscow,   ID  -
   #22.22.21000.002)
   RESPONSE:

   The issue of Forest Plan compliance, including upward trend  requirements,
   is discussed above in the response to comment 31 (B).  We disagree that
   the Forest Plan requires that an upward trend must show before logging
   can take place.   The  Forest issued a guidance  document in 1991 that
   states,  in part, "The Plan did not specifically intend that the improving trend
   be in place prior to initiation  of new activities ..." (Gerhardt, et al, 1991).
   Rather, in the watersheds within the project area, the Forest  Plan provided
   for timber management and improvement activities to occur concurrently.
   Refer to Chapter 3, Section 3.3.3 and Appendix A.
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E. BECAUSE THE DEIS is UNCLEAR HOW THE PROPOSED TIMBER HARVESTS RELATE TO
   THE PROPOSED WATERSHED IMPROVEMENTS
   That is especially true [that an  economic analysis  be provided for each
   alternative] in light of the lack of clear language in the DEIS connecting the tree
   removal part of the plan with the superb list of watershed improvements provided
   in two  appendices to the DEIS.  These appendices offer a clear and very well
   thought out plan to make long term watershed improvements in this portion of the
   Forest  - a place where just this type of improvement is badly needed.  These
   efforts can also be very labor intensive,  which is not a bad idea in a place where
   more jobs are certainly needed.  But, and I am sorry to say, as usual, no clear
   plan is provided to answer these questions: how will these improvements be
   timed?  Will they for certain be accomplished?  Are they a prerequisite for any
   other part of your proposed decision? Will they be done by the same people who
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   remove the trees?  Is their actual completion a key part of both the monitoring
   effort, and more importantly, is their completion factored into the many tables that
   show the overall water quality situation  in these two  drainages.  (Individual,
   Moscow, ID - #6.7.21100.247)
   It is not clear from the DEIS of the timing of the watershed restoration activities
   listed in Appendix D. (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24.14.21100.249)
   RESPONSE:

   The  Nez Perce National Forest  is committed to  completing  the  aquatic
   restoration that is part of this action.  Please refer to the FEIS Record of Decision
   including the Biological  Evaluation/Assessment.   The aquatic improvement
   activities will occur concurrently with the vegetation treatments. Activities will  be
   planned to achieve a balance over the life of the timber sale contract.  The exact
   mechanism is not final at this stage and implementation will either occur under
   the same contract or by separate contracts.
                                OSCaJCS

F. BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS OT SUBSTANTIATE HOW THE MITIGATION WORK PROPOSED
   IN THIS PROJECT WILL RESULT IN LONG TERM IMPROVEMENT TRENDS
   1. Regarding this over generalization of future habitat improvements, your DEIS
      frequently admits that these rivers are in poor condition and/or are very
      vulnerable to  further degradation. As an example of this, on page 146 you
      frankly state  "In summary, American River and  tributaries  are subject to
      cumulative sediment effects due to past impacts in the  watershed and the
      existing degraded condition" (holding added).
      On the bottom of page 147, you make the simple and flat statement  "Fish
      habitat in the  analysis area is in poor condition".  You continue on page 148
      to describe just how poor of a condition these rivers and tributary streams are
      in.  Yet, in spite of these type of assessments,  the DEIS constantly implies, in
      a  very blurred way,  that road decommissioning and the use of "temporary
      roads" will eventually offset any further damage caused  by this proposal.  I
      am  aware of the other mitigation work proposed in this project which is
      commendable but you submit no supportable evidence substantiating the
      contention that  this  work will more than offset the short term impacts of
      Alternative C. Although I applaud such mitigation work, it is pure speculation
      that the net effect of taking 25 MMBF of timber off of 2,700 acres will result in
      a long term improvement trend.  (Individual, Post Falls, ID - #19.5.21000.720)

      RESPONSE:

      The documentation for the conclusion that an upward trend in aquatic
      condition  is expected to result from this project is found in Appendix E of
      the FEIS. In addition, 2,700 acres represents only seven percent of the
      project area.
                                 o»o* os
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   2.  Proposals such as the American and Crooked River Project coyly imply that
       after this project is completed, there essentially will be no other subsequent
       proposals that would add additional short term or long term negative impacts.
       This is done by almost promising the reader that following some undefined
       period of time of "short term" degradation, these watersheds "are expected to
       result in long-term improvements in  habitat condition  (page  V; page 111).
       What is so astounding about such assertions is you present not one iota of
       information  or data to support that  critical commitment.   That is just  not
       probable nor does it suggest reality.  No, in all likely hood, some years after
       the American and  Crooked  Rivers  are logged,  the  temporary roads  are
       decommissioned (more  on  that  later),  existing non-used  roads   are
       decommissioned and the affected area commences  to  recover,  the Nez
       Perce NP will come forth with another proposal to attempt to "manage1 some
       form of risk in the same watersheds. In other words, it seems to me to be
       incredibly idealistic to  expect that there will be no further negative impacting
       projects to those watersheds. Certainly that has not been my experience up
       here in  the Panhandle National Forest.   So, for the USFS to  say that if this
       project is initiated, it will lead to long term improvements in the watershed are,
       as they say, a bit of a stretch.  (Individual, Post Falls, ID - #19.2.21100.160)

       RESPONSE:
       Currently, there are no additional proposals planned within this project
       area. The assertion of long-term improvement is based on actions that
       we can  currently assess.  Unless the requirements for upward trend in
       aquatic  condition are removed at some  point, future projects would be
       subject to the same direction.
                                080*0*

G. BECAUSE THE DEIS is UNCLEAR WHETHER THE USDA FOREST SERVICE WILL
   CONTINUE TO PROVIDE STAFF AND FUNDING TO SUSTAIN EFFECTIVE MITIGATION
   PROJECTS AND RESTORATION PROJECTS
   Adding  to this  dubious claim  that the forest silviculture  and watersheds  will
   eventually be in better condition is the question of whether the US  Forest Service
   will continue to provide staff and funding to sustain effective mitigation programs.
   There certainly  is valid concern that programs originally committed to in a given
   project never actually gel completed as originally orchestrated or, at the very
   least, takes inordinately long to complete.  I am sure that this continual under
   funding of the USFS, and hence the downsizing, is as agonizing to the agency as
   it is to the general public.  None-the-less, this raises serious doubt  that the Forest
   Service can, in  fact, deliver on the constant promise that things will get better in
   the long term IF THE PRESENT PROPOSED PROJECT IS AUTHORIZED.
   (Individual, Post Falls, ID-#19.3.21100.835)
   It is not clear from the DEIS whether the  funding is certain for all or some of the
   watershed  restoration  activities.   (Federal Agency  Official, Seattle,  WA  -
   #24.15.21100.835)
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RESPONSE:

Most  restoration work associated with this project will be  accomplished
through the use of various contracting mechanisms.   Some of the work,
streamside  planting   for  example,  may  be   accomplished  through
participating, volunteer, and challenge cost-share agreements.

The various types of contracting authorities being  considered to implement
the project include stewardship, service, and timber sale contracts, each of
which offers a different opportunity to apply funds  or contract specifications
toward completing restoration activities.

We are confident  that restoration  funds will  be made available from  a
variety of sources over the life of the project.
Funding Sources

   •   Appropriated funds have been requested for Fiscal Year 2005 and
       beyond to accomplish restoration work in the upper South  Fork
       Clearwater River, including the American and Crooked River Project
       area.

   •   The North Central Resource Advisory Council (RAC) is on record
       supporting this Project and has the capability to fund a significant
       portion of the restoration once the Project is approved.

   •   Many  road improvements  and  a portion  of  the  existing  road
       decommissioning  would  be accomplished through  timber  sale
       contract provisions where such roads would be used for hauling and
       removing forest products.

   •   Where forest product revenues are projected to  exceed operational
       logging and site treatment costs, stewardship contracting authorities
       would  be used  to allow the Forest Service to direct those revenues
       toward restoration activities.
   •   A  substantial  portion of  the  restoration work fits well under
       partnership and grant opportunities:

       ->  A  recent  addition to  the  potential   sources  of funding for
          restoration  activities  is  the  Pacific Salmon Recovery  Fund
          (PSRF).  At least one grant  proposal from a local non-profit
          organization has already been submitted, through  the PSRF
          process, to  do restoration work in the project area.

       -»  Restoration work associated with this  Project, once approved,
          will be incorporated into the South Fork Clearwater River TMDL
          implementation plan, which is  under development by the SFCR
          Watershed Advisory Group.

       ->  Many of the proposed restoration projects would be competitive
          for BPA funds and work could be accomplished in partnership
          with the Nez Perce Tribe.
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   In the event of significantly changed conditions due to natural events related to
   large floods, wind, or fire  affecting the project area, the project  would be
   reevaluated.  Significant delays in project implementation could affect the overall
   economics of the project.  National funding priorities could temporarily shift in the
   event of large-scale catastrophic  events in other parts of the country.   The
   difficulty  in accurately predicting the future makes it impossible  to guarantee
   funding  or results.  We can,  however, provide  assurance of our intent  to
   implement the full range of actions identified in the FEIS and Record of Decision
   and that the tools to do so are reasonably available at this time.
                                    caouos

H. BECAUSE THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS ANALYSES IN THE DEIS ARE INADEQUATE
   1. The cumulative impacts analyses in the DEIS are disjointed (for example see
      pages 109, 110 and 147) and  somewhat contradictory.  Page  110 indicates
      sediment horn  only four projects was analyzed in a cumulative fashion,  yet
      table  3.0 lists many more future projects. Even table 3.0 is not clear whether
      it covers all of the mining projects in the area as, for example, Crooked River
      Mining Activity is so general it may take in several projects which  are  not
      explicitly mentioned. Mining projects have been proposed and/or approved in
      the past few years in  the South Fork drainage  which are not mentioned on
      the chart (Siegel Creek, El Lucky Duk, Cypress Hill, and Petsite), timber sales
      are not mentioned (Mackey Day) and other timber  sales (Ridge Running)
      apparently are considered  past  (a Hungry  mill  EIS  sale,  as  per
      communication with the USFS) when we understand that are still ongoing
      though nearing completion.

      As of today, the TMDL for the South Fork has just been or is on the verge of
      being approved. Sediment is a major problem in the South Fork Clearwater.
      The problems noted in the above paragraph of the DEIS make it impossible
      to determine whether the TMDL is being met. However,  the evidence that is
      available leads one to conclude the TMDL, which requires a reduction of 25%
      in sediment won't be met. How can the agency produce more sediment and
      still    meet    the   TMDL    that    calls   for   sediment    reduction?
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.20.21000.137)

      RESPONSE:

      The cumulative effects discussion was supplemented  with additional
      analysis  in the FEIS.   Not  all ongoing and proposed activities are
      modeled in the sediment analysis.  The types of activities and effects
      that are modeled are disclosed in Appendix E.  The concern regarding
      compliance with the South Fork Clearwater River TMDLs is discussed
      above in the response  to comment 31.
                                C3O80S

   2. The  DEIS failed to adequately  consider the cumulative impacts of other
      federal actions in the area on Fisheries, Soils,  Wildlife, Management Indicator
      Species,  TE&S Species, Water Quality,  Forest Stand Dynamics and other
      resources. Some of the other projects that should be incorporated into  the
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    Cumulative Effects Analysis include the Eastside Township (BLM), Whiskey-
    South (BLM and FS),  Crooked River Road Demonstration  project,  the
    mysterious Orogrande Defensible Space project, Newsome Creek Defensible
    Space, Red River Defensible Space, Red River Administrative Sites, Blacktail
    Fuels, American River Drainage Fisheries  (BLM),  Buffalo Gulch  Culvert
    Replacement (BLM), Dixie  Summit Tree Removal, Crooked River Channel,
    Genesis Minerals,  Red River Hazard Tree  Removal,  Newsome Creek
    Channel Restoration, Upper Red River Watershed Restoration project, "This
    is it" placer mining, EMC #1 placer mines on Newsome Creek, Forestwide
    Thinning project (scoping notice of March 29, 2004) Red River Campground,
    and last but certainly not  least, Red Pines.  Additional  effects analysis is
    warranted for the historic, current and foreseeable mining activities located
    throughout the watershed,  as these legacy and continuing projects carry
    significant risks to values and resources within and  adjacent to the project
    area.

    Given the  inextricable  relationship  of  this  impressive  (yet likely  not
    comprehensive)  list of related activities, many of these projects should be
    analyzed under one comprehensive EIS.  The Forest Service also needs to
    analyze the cumulative effects of the Slims Fire Contingency Fire Line and
    any other  emergency  projects  that  arise.    (Preservation/Conservation
    Organization, Boise, ID-#15.143.30310.002)
    RESPONSE:

    For water quality cumulative effects, please see response above.  The
    analysis of cumulative effects for soils was also supplemented. See this
    section in FEIS 3 at the end of Section 3.1. The analysis of cumulative
    effects for vegetation was supplemented in the FEIS.  See this section
    in FEIS 3 at the end of Section 3.10. The analysis of cumulative  effects
    for fisheries has been updated in the FEIS. Please refer to Section 3.2
    in that documents.
                             OS 03 OS
3.   The DEIS does  not  clearly show or evaluate cumulative the impacts from
    livestock grazing on the watershed.   There are as  few allotments in  the
    planning area.

    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.2921100.247)

    RESPONSE:   The evaluation of cumulative effects from livestock grazing on
    the watershed has been strengthened in the Final EIS.
                             0303(13
BECAUSE THE DEIS is NOT PRECISE IN HOW IT DEFINES FOREST HEALTH
The DES and associated documents  are not precise in how to define forest
health, /s it merely an expression of being within historical range of variability (or
does it include human economic concerns as well? lithe latter, how  can  science
define what is healthy since the economic  values are simply that, expressions of
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   a value system, and not based in value-neutral science?  (see Walder 1995)
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.32.21000.205)

   RESPONSE:
   We consider a healthy forest ecosystem to have the following characteristics:

       1)  The  physical  environment,  biotic  resources and  trophic networks  to
          support productive forests during at least some serai stages;
       2)  Resistance to  dramatic change in populations of  important organisms
          within the ecosystem not accounted for by predicted successional trends;

       3)  A  functional  equilibrium  between supply  and demand of  essential
          resources  (water, nutrients, light, growing space) for major portions of .the
          vegetation; and

       4)  A diversity of serai stages, cover types, and stand structures that provide
          habitat for many native species and all essential ecosystem processes.
                                OSOJOS

J.  BECAUSE THE DEIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE MAPPING DIFFERENCES BETWEEN IT
   AND THE SOUTH FORK OF THE-CLEARWATER RIVER LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT
   (SFLA) CONCERNING FIRE REGIMES

   The DEIS does  not  explain the mapping differences between fire regimes
   between  it and the SFLA,  though minor, and the  assumptions behind the
   departure from historic.  Without  this information,  it is impossible to test the
   validity of the assumptions  made  in the DEIS.   (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.61.21000.210)

   The DEIS is not clear how the assumptions made in the SFLA and other
   documents were derived.  For example, the SFLA reaches some different
   site-specific  conclusions  about  extent of certain habitat  types (and
   therefore,  about fire regimes) in  the  South Fork Clearwater than does
   ICBEMP.  However,  neither  the SFLA nor DEIS explain the site-specific
   science   behind   those   differences.      (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.60.21000.210)
   RESPONSE:
   The modest  inconsistencies  are  due  to the methods  of deriving  fire
   regimes.  In both analyses, combinations of potential vegetation and terrain
   setting were used with a  rule set to estimate historic fire regimes.  In  the
   case of the South Fork assessment,  the resultant maps were refined using
   site-specific potential vegetation data where they were available.
   In  the case  of the American  Crooked River  Project,  no  site-specific
   corrections were made. Both these and the historic fire regimes derived for
   the              Idaho               Cohesive               Strategy
   (http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/id_fire_assessment/id_haz_risk_review.html), which
   will replace in the FEIS data used  for the DEIS, are based on modeling of
   potential vegetation, and the  use of rule sets to derive fire regimes.  The
   Forest and Idaho-scale processes are likely to result in differing fire regime
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   assignments  and  could affect  consequent  estimation  of  fire  regime
   condition class. Recognition of variability in these areas of mixed and lethal
   fire,  and  landscape  and stand-specific  evaluations, are  important  to
   interpreting existing condition with respect to historic process.
                                0*0*0*

K. BECAUSE THE DEIS is INCONSISTENT IN ITS DESCRIPTION OF THE AREA AND FIRE
   REGIMES VERSUS THE MAPS IN THE APPENDIX

   The  DEIS  is inconsistent between description of the area, and  fire  regimes,
   versus the maps in the appendix which delineate Fire Regimes.  The FINAL EIS
   should  clarify these discrepancies.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Boise, ID-#15.44.21000.277)
   RESPONSE:

   The  description of the area and the  map legend for the fire regimes now
   correspond.
                                0*050*

L. BECAUSE THE DEIS PRESENTS INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS CONCERNING DAMAGE TO
   WATERSHEDS FROM STAND-REPLACEMENT FIRE
   One of the wrong assumptions in the DEIS is the damage to watersheds from
   stand-replacing fires.  The  SFLA clearly notes the  difference  between pulse
   events like stand-replacing fires (which are necessary for watershed  function)
   and press events (road building and logging).  "Predominantly pulse disturbances
   of fire  and flood have been supplanted by wide scale press disturbances of
   harvest and mad-related  sediment regimes that have impacted aquatic integrity."

   Enclosed is a  paper from agency  personnel that look  at this  issue.  It is
   particularly important to  note that logging for watershed  health is  misguided.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.23.21000.333)
   RESPONSE:
   The  need to log  for watershed health  is not a primary purpose of this
   project.   Stand replacing fire,  and the pulse watershed  responses that
   ensue, are intrinsic to historic and projected fire activity in the American and
   Crooked River watersheds.  The FEIS, Chapter 1, Section 1.3, Conditions
   Contributing to the Purpose and Need for Action, describes vegetation
   changes associated with past fire suppression, succession, and mountain
   pine beetle activity. Refer to FEIS, Chapter 3, Sections  3.2, 3.3, and  3.4
   regarding the relationship of fire to  these disturbances.   Furthermore, a
   robust program of watershed improvements (see Appendix D) should help
   improve resiliency to fire  when it does occur.
                                eaoaea

M. BECAUSE THE DEIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN HOW DIFFERENT SITE-SPECIFIC
   CONCLUSIONS WERE DERIVED
   The  DEIS  is not clear  how the  assumptions made in the  SFLA and other
   documents were derived. For example, the SFLA reaches some different site-
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   specific conclusions about extent of certain habitat types (and therefore, about
   fire regimes) in the South Fork Clearwater than does ICBEMP.  However, neither
   the SFLA nor DEIS explain the site-specific science behind those differences.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.60.21000.210)

   NEPA requires information be available before decisions are made.  The DEIS
   does not indicate whether the inventories conducted to date are adequate site-
   specific analysis for  this project.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
   Moscow, ID - #22.94.21100.131)

   RESPONSE:

   The Analysis Methods described under each resource area in the FEIS,
   Chapter 3, have been augmented to describe data sources, including field
   inventories.
                                 08C9CJ

N. BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS TO ADDRESS ISSUES CONCERNING WILDLIFE AND WILDLIFE
   HABITAT

   There is inadequate information  provided regarding the Flammulated owl.  While
   it is stated that there is extremely limited owl habitat within the Crooked River, an
   estimate   of  how  many owls  are  located  in  the  area  is  appropriate.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.83.21100.390)
   The Forest Service failed to address the fact that harvest units adjacent to
   previous units could create combined openings that are too large to be used by
   goshawks.       (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,    Boise,   ID
   #15.79.21100.391)

   It is particularly confusing that the environmental effects that are analyzed only
   consider habitat in ponderosa pine.  It should analyze other potential nesting
   trees such as Douglas fir, which the owls are also known to utilize in Idaho.
   Given the extent of logging in the area, it is likely that there would be impacts on
   the limited population  that is present in the area.  These impacts  should have
   been fully considered in the DEIS, and must be duly incorporated into the FINAL
   EIS. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.84.21100.391)
   The DEIS specifies that project nest site mitigation will only protect 10-15 acres
   of forest around nest trees. This is inadequate.  The Forest Service should leave
   a 30-acre buffer around active and previously existing but unoccupied nest sites
   as specified in the Management Recommendations for the  Northern Goshawk
   (Reynolds 1992). Due to parasites or previous disturbances, goshawks often
   alternate between existing nests.   These existing alternate  nests may well  be
   located within or adjacent to the  proposed patch clear-cuts and other units.  The
   proposed action  could remove or make these otherwise viable nests unusable.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.78.23540.391)

   RESPONSE:

   Xeric  ponderosa pine/Douglas-fir habitats are extremely limiting  in the
   American and  Crooked River drainages.  The extent of flammulated owl
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   habitat and its isolation from such other is not extensive enough to support
   a breeding population.  See FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.11.

   The goshawk is  a habitat generalist and uses  variety  of structural/age
   classes to meet  its life history  requirements.   With the majority of the
   harvest within the American and  Crooked River drainages having occurred
   between the  1950's and 1980s,  these areas are fully stocked and could
   provide foraging habitat for goshawks.  New units would  create openings,
   which in turn would provide habitat.  See FEIS, wildlife cumulative effects
   sections in Chapter 3,  for further discussion of habitat fragmentation and
   related impacts.

   Management recommendations proposed by Reynolds et al.,  1992, were
   developed specifically for the  southwestern United States.  Thus, it would
   be  inappropriate to apply these  guidelines to  the  moister,  intermountain
   west.  Given that this project will not harvest  old growth stands and that
   active  or newly discovered goshawk nests will be protected, goshawks
   nests should be adequately protected.
                                OtfOJOS

O. BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE MOUNTAIN PINE BEETLE PLAYS
   IN THE SUCCESSIONAL STAGES OF THE FORESTS.

   The DEIS fails to  recognize the  role  Mountain  Pine Beetle  plays  in  the
   successional stages of the forests. Lodgepole Pine is a serai species and should
   be recognized as such in the FINAL EIS. While in certain areas, Lodgepole Pine
   can be viewed as a type of serai/climax species due the long fire interval (i.e. as
   witnessed at  Yellowstone National Park), throughout much of the West, beetles
   and other disturbance mechanisms  play an  integral role  in  the  succession
   through to climax forests. While fire may play a role  in some of these forests, the
   DEIS gives  the impression that there are two stark options:  Clear-cutting or
   Stand Replacing Fire. Is this the position of the Nez Perce National Forest? This
   is misleading and  disingenuous.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
   Boise, ID - #15.109.21100.373)

   RESPONSE:
   The role the mountain pine beetle plays in the  successional stages of the
   forest vary   according to the  function of Rocky Mountain lodgepole pine in
   the stand: whether serai, persistent, or climax. Section 3.10 of the FEIS for
   additional information regarding this topic.
                                o»e*e«

P. BECAUSE THE DEIS FIALS TO ADEQUATELY CONSIDER AND ADDRESS ISSUES
   CONCERING " ROADLESS" AREAS
   Unmanaged,  roadless areas  provide  important habitat.   The  Summary of
   Scientific  Findings  for the Interior Columbia  Basin  Ecosystem Management
   Project  (PNW-GTR-385) found that undeveloped, roadless  areas are important
   for providing habitat for native fish and water quality; are economically valuable
   to society; and are in relatively good ecological condition.
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    "Because roads crisscross so many forested areas in Eastside (Columbia Basin),
    existing roadless regions  have enormous ecological value.  Existing roadless
    regions offer important sanctuary.  Roadless regions constitute the least-human-
    disturbed forest and stream systems, the last reservoirs of ecological diversity,
    and the primary benchmarks  for restoring  ecological health  and integrity."
    (Rhodes et al. 1994).

    The DEIS fails to consider the importance of roadless in those regards.  Instead,
    it is as if the roadless areas are targeted Because of some ill-informed belief that
    they need manipulation and/or corrective action than do roaded areas.  Clearly,
    with   regard   to   watershed    integrity,   that   is   not   the    case.
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.91.21100.621)

    The DEIS does not analyze the so-called temporary impacts on roadless values.
    Since project implementation is expected to take at several years, those impacts
    could be  substantial.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -
    #22.89.21100.621)

    Nowhere  in  the DEIS does  it  distinguish  between  roaded and unroaded
    landscapes with regard to fire severity,  HRV, or other similar ecological factors.
    There  is  ample evidence, including the agency's own ICBEMP  studies  that
    roadless areas are in far better health  than roaded landscapes. For example,
    Evan Frost prepared a detailed paper, submitted to the agency as comments on
    the roadless policy which used the agency's own scientific reports citing the
    health  of roadless  areas  (see  Frost  1999).     (Preservation/Conservation
    Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.90.21100.621)

    The DEIS fails to clarify whether any management of non-system roads, trails, or
    skid trails would occur with the project.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
    Boise, ID-#15.53.21100.410)

    RESPONSE:

    The cumulative effects analysis for Roadless areas is discussed in Chapter 3,
    Section 3.13, Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Areas.
    Additional information regarding effects to areas identified as fish habitat
    unroaded areas can be found in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.3.
                                0*0305

Q.  BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS TO ADEQUATELY EVALUATE THE IMPACTS FROM THE
    VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES ON WEED SPREAD

    The section on weed spread does not evaluate  the impacts from the various
    alternatives  other than displaying a  chart of harvest unit acreage and road
    miles...This is a major failing of the DEIS.

    The reason this is important is because the DEIS  also claims that various HTGs
    are different susceptibility to weeds.  It  does not,  however, indicate what HTGs
    are being logged or roaded so it is impossible to determine what the potential
    impacts of weed spread are from the various alternatives.

    Furthermore, if the areas targeted to be logged are HTGs or VRUs (or whatever
    habitat/land typing is used) with little chance of  weed  spread, that should be
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   shown.  There is an interesting correlation between those types and infrequent
   but lethal fire regimes.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -
   #22.62.21000.371)

   RESPONSE:
   The result of the weed risk assessment reflect a concern for the potential of weed
   spread from ground disturbing activities from all alternatives, taking into account
   the level of disturbance and, type and condition of the vegetation communities
   within the project area.  To reduce the risk of continued weed spread design
   criteria (Chapter 2 Design Criteria pg 28-29) is integrated into the project and will
   be a requirement of the proposed project and applies to all alternatives.
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R. BECAUSE THE DEIS FAILS TO ADDRESS MAJOR ISSUES CONCERNING HERITAGE
   VALUES
   The DEIS gives  some important  and interesting background  information  on
   heritage values.  However, the big  questions are avoided.  Will there be an on-
   site inventory?  What are  the  impacts from the  various  alternatives?  What
   measures  will   be   taken  to   ensure  protection  of  heritage  values?
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.93.21000.730)

   RESPONSE:
   A heritage resource inventory specific to the American and Crooked River
   project occurred throughout the project area during 2003 and 2004.  The
   level of inventory was predicated on sufficing  requirements within 36 CFR
   800.4.
   No  adverse  effects  to  historic   properties are   anticipated  by  the
   implementation of any of the alternatives proposed for the American and
   Crooked River  project.  Refer to FEIS,  Chapter 3, Section 3.9.  Historic
   properties will either be avoided entirely from project activity,  or specific
   mitigation measures  implemented  in  consultation with  the Idaho State
   Historic Preservation Office and 36  CFR 800.6, will be instituted to arrive at
   a "No Adverse Effect" determination for this project.
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S. BECAUSE THE DEIS is NOT CLEAR WHETHER FOREST PLAN SOILS STANDARDS WILL
   BE MET
   The DEIS is not clear whether forest plan soils standards will be met. It assumes
   that can be held to 20% but it does  not conclude that indeed it will.  Furthermore,
   it  is   not   evident   that   regional   soils   guidelines   will   be   met.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,  ID-#22.28.21100.230)

   RESPONSE:
   The Regional soil quality guidelines have not been adopted Forest-wide through
   a Forest  Plan amendment,  so the Forest Plan standards are  in effect.   The
   discussion of soil quality standards  and the assumption that impacts can be held
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        to 20 percent has been supplemented. Please see FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1,
        Summary of Cumulative Effects.
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35. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD DEVELOP A SUPPLEMENTAL DEIS
    WHICH CONSIDERS A DEFENSIBLE SPACE ALTERNATIVE.

    The assertion that a defensible space project was not warranted Because of the
    implementation of  the  Crooked River Road Demo Project is outrageous.   The
    Crooked River Road Demo  Project treated approximately 24 acres.   The DEIS
    further states that because  the Orogrande Defensible Space Project has  been
    envisioned, that  a  defensible space alternative is not warranted.   No information
    whatsoever has been provided to the public about this project, no scoping letter has
    been disseminated and there is absolutely no assurance that the project will ever get
    past the conceptual phase.  Additionally, the DEIS (at page VIII) states,  "The size
    and scope of these treatments  are small, designed to protect only the structure
    themselves, so the treatments would have little effect on the project area."  On the
    basis of these considerations,  a Supplemental DEIS is clearly warranted which
    considers a Defensible Space alternative.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
    Boise, ID - #15.19.23400.275)
    RESPONSE:

    The scoping letter  for the proposed Crooked River Defensible  Space project
    was mailed on September 13, 2004. This project proposes fuels treatments on
    nine sites located along County Road  223.  The proposed treatments include
    thinning small diameter trees and pruning large diameter trees within 200 feet
    of structures to create a safer area for firefighters to work and to help protect
    private properties.
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 TECHNICAL AND EDITORIAL COMMENTS ON THE DEIS

36. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD MAKE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS TO
    SECTION 2.2, DESCRIPTION OF ALTERNATIVES.

    Section 2.2 Description of Alternatives:  We recommend adding a Table 2.3 similar to
    Table 0.1 that compares the alternatives for the combined American/Crooked River
    project.  (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA-#24.29.21200.210)
    Section 2.2 Description of Alternatives: We recommend that Table 2.1 and 2.2 have
    a reference to the list of stream improvement treatments contained in Appendix D.
    (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24.30.21200.249)

    RESPONSE:   Comment acknowledged.
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37. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CLARIFY THE VRU CHART ON PAGE
    221 AND 250 TO DISPLAY THE VRU DISTRIBUTION OF THE AMERICAN RlVER.
    VRU Chart,  Figure 3/13,  Page 250  -  this  chart appears to display the VRU
    distribution of American River rather than Crooked Fork (as labeled), and is the same
    as  the  chart on page  221.   (Timber/Wood  Products Industry,  Kamiah, ID -
    #5.13.30100.001)

    RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged. The VRU chart has been updated in the FEIS
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38. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PROVIDE A SHORT NARRATIVE FOR THE
    ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF EACH ALTERNATIVE.
    The economic analysis provided for each alternative is reasonable, but could be
    improved with  at least  a  short narrative  for each.   (Individual,  Moscow, ID -
    #6.6.21200.800)

    RESPONSE:
    Comment acknowledged. The economic analysis section has been improved in the
    FEIS.
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39. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL NEPA
    DOCUMENTATION FOR THE AMERICAN AND CROOKED RlVER PROJECT.
    If the intent  is  to proceed with the project as an authorized,  additional NEPA
    documentation  (i.e.  rescoping and supplemental DEIS) is required under current
    regulations. Similar efforts to apply the Biscuit Fire Salvage Project post hoc were
    withdrawn as   a  result  of this  incompatibility.    (Preservation/Conservation
    Organization, Boise, ID - #15.16.21000.160)

    RESPONSE: See response to comment 17
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 FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT (FEIS)

40. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD SUMMARIZE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES RAISED BY THE PUBLIC
    AND PROVIDE DETAIL ON THE PROCESS  USED TO MODIFY THE PROPOSED
    ALTERNATIVE.
    In  Chapter 2,  Section 2.2, the DEIS states that the preferred alternative  was
    prepared in response to significant issues raised by the public.  We recommend that
    the final Environmental Impact Statement (FINAL EIS) summarize the significant
    issues that were raised by the public and provide more detail on the process used to
    modify the proposed  alternative  to address those concerns.   (Federal Agency
    Official, Seattle, WA-#24.3.21100.060)
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     RESPONSE:

     Alternatives to the proposed action were developed based on public comments
     received during scoping.  A detailed list and analysis of issues raised by the
     public is in project file for this EIS.
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41.  THE FINAL EIS SHOULD ADDRESS THE EFFECTS OF DROUGHT AND CLIMATE CHANGE
     IN THE PROJECT AREA.

     The effect of drought and climate change /s not adequately considered as one of the
     root causes for the issues of concern in the project area. This should be amended in
     the   FINAL  EIS.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,   Boise,   ID   -
     #15.45.21100.260)

     RESPONSE:

     Since it is not possible to determine if, when, or severity of drought or other climatic
     changes, it is  beyond what is defined as reasonably foreseeable and is not analyzed
     in this EIS.
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42.  THE FINAL EIS SHOULD INCLUDE THE RESULTS OF THE BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT
     (BA).

     We recommend that the final EIS contain the results of the Biological Assessment
     (BA) for threatened and endangered species affected by the proposed project or that
     the Record of Decision discuss the  process  used to address the results of BA in
     determining final action. (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24.27.21100.340)

     RESPONSE:

     Comment acknowledged. We will include the Biological Assessments with the
     FEIS or ROD.
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 RESTORATION

 RESTORATION GENERAL

43.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONDUCT RESTORATION.
     A.  To RESTORE THE WATERSHED

       1. A better way  to contribute to the economic and social well being of the local
          communities  is to repair the decades  of abuse the  landscape has suffered
          and restore the watershed so that it supports thriving populations of Chinook
          Salmon, Steelhead Trout, Bull Trout, Lampreys and other species.  There are
          decades worth of restoration projects in this  area needing skilled forest
          workers.  In addition, fishing continues  to bring significant income to the local
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   economies.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID  -
   #15.11.30000.800)
   The  proposed restoration package is very limited on the American  River.
   This is difficult to comprehend given that there are many more improvements
   proposed for the Crooked River and there seems to be very similar problems
   for both  of the rivers.   The restoration  package  should  be significantly
   increased.  This should be the highest priority for the watershed given that on
   page 37 of the DEIS it is noted that,  "The South Fork Clearwater River
   Landscape Assessment identifies 'Restore aquatic processes' as the area
   theme for  the American River watershed within  which the project area
   occurs."  It also states that "Restoration  is  to include  both restoration of
   aquatic conditions and processes in the watershed and adjustments  to the
   road  and  trail system to support aquatic restoration and provide  for
   administrative   and  public  uses  and  maintain  wildlife security."    The
   improvements proposed for this watershed  do not seem to include restoration
   of    aquatic   conditions    and  processes   in   the   watershed.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID - #15.38.31100.201)
   RESPONSE:
   Refer  to Chapter 2  for summary  tables of  watershed  restoration
   improvements.   In  addition,  Appendix D of  the  FEIS details  the
   restoration  planned  under this action.   In American River,  this work
   includes  decommissioning  of over 20 miles of  road,  doing watershed
   improvements  on over 6 miles of road, and improving fish passage and
   increasing the size of 10 culverts.  In  addition, over 50 acres of soil
   improvement will  be approved for completion.   Crooked River does
   include more of this type of work including in channel improvements.
   The  history of work  in American River has the BLM taking the lead in
   mainstem improvements.  These actions will continue, as evidenced by
   BLM's recent proposal to:
      •   Do 2.5  miles of road to trail conversion,
      •   Rehab the upper American River Ford,

      •   Replace the culvert at the mouth of  East Fork American River,

      •   Connect Telephone, Queen and Whitaker  Creeks  to  the
          mainstem American River,

      •   Perform 2.2 miles of in-channel improvements, and

      •   Install riparian  enhancements on an additional 5 miles of the
          mainstem.
      •   The work  proposed by both agencies will  improve watershed
          process and function.
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2.  EPA  encourages the USFS to continue  in  the direction of implementing
   restoration projects  in the  American and  Crooked Rivers that will result in
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       water quality and aquatic habitat improvements.  (Federal Agency Official,
       Seattle, WA - #24.8.34500.240)

       RESPONSE:   See response to 43(D) above.
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B. To RESTORE THE SOUTH FORK CLEARWATER

   For the restoration of the South Fork Clearwater, it would be better to use plans
   which  concentrate on  development of habitat for diverse wildlife and fish and
   improvement of soil conditions. (Individual, Loveland, CO-#12.3.32000.002)

   RESPONSE:

   While the American  and Crooked River Project focuses on timber salvage
   and fuel  removal, there are a number of key restorative actions that this
   project implements as well.  Roads decommissioning is one of the most
   important from a wildlife and fish habitat viewpoint.   See Appendix D for
   details on the watershed and fish habitat improvements.
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C. BY CONSIDERING THAT THE DEIS ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT TIMBER HARVEST
   AND ROADS CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS

   In attempting to replicate some as yet to be  defined HRV, the DEIS adopts a
   strategy  nearly identical to the logging  of the past which  resulted in  forest
   fragmentation and the conditions of today. In other words, the DEIS grudgingly
   acknowledges that logging and road building  has led to the problem (although
   the emphasis seems to be on fire suppression, the effects of which are not clear
   for most  of the South Fork), yet proposes the solution to be  more logging and
   road  building.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,   Moscow,   ID  -
   #22.39.13100.330)
   RESPONSE:

   The project is  not attempting to replicate HRV.  Chapter 1, Section  1.3 of the
   FEIS defines the Purpose and Need of this project, as well as conditions that
   contributed to  the purpose and  need  for action. See also response to  43(D),
   below
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D. BY CONSIDERING EVIDENCE THAT TIMBER HARVEST AND THINNING DO NOT MINIMIZE
   EFFECTS OF FIRE

   The DEIS fails to analyze some important findings about logging and  fire. Both
   the Sierra Nevada and Interior Columbia Basin Ecosystem Management Projects
   found that logging was a major reason  for increased intensity and severity of
   wildland fire. Delia Sala et al (1995 and 1995a) and Henjum et al.(1994) argue
   that scientific evidence does not support the  hypothesis that logging, thinning,
   minimize  the effects of fire.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,
   ID-#22.53.13110.270)
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        RESPONSE:
        This  is a complex issue  and it is important to examine findings in the
        context of biophysical setting and management history. Factors associated
        with increased likelihood of high-intensity fire in managed forests include
        some appropriate to this project area.  For example, harvest-created fuels
        will add to the fuel  load  for a short period until  slash  treatments are
        complete, adding  to  the risk of locally severe fire effects under severe
        burning conditions. However, some findings are more associated with low
        elevation forests, in formerly frequent fire regimes, where past harvest has
        reduced stand resistance to  fire by removing the fire tolerant trees and
        leaving younger and more fire sensitive species  (Quigley and Arbelbide,
        1997: McKelvey et al., 1996), and leaving slash untreated. Weatherspoon
        (1997) compared fire and fire surrogates (logging and prescribed fire) for
        their  ecological effects.  Many important questions remain  unanswered,
        even in the  low elevation frequent fire regimes.  Designed  studies and
        modeling,  as well as fire case  studies,  have provided  some  insights.
        Schoennagel  et al. (2004) conclude that severe fires at  long  intervals in
        lodgepole and spruce-fir forests are weather driven and not by fuels, stand
        age,  or fire-fighting  activities.   These  fire situations are  not  those being
        addressed by this project.  In mixed severity regimes, or under moderate
        burning conditions, climate and fuels interact in  a complex manner. Using
        the Hayman fire as an example, reviewers found that during severe burning
        weather, most fuel treatments had little impact on the severity or direction of
        fire (Finney et al., 2003), especially if area of fuel treatment was small.
        During moderate weather, fuel modifications did influence fire spread and
        severity. Agee et al. (2000) present a reasoned discussion  of the utility and
        limitations of fuel breaks in affecting fire behavior.
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44. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ADOPT THE RESTORATION PRINCIPLES
    AS A SCREEN FOR THE ACTION IN THIS PROJECT.
    We request the  FS adopt the Restoration Principles (DellaSala, et al., 2003) as a
    screen for proposed actions such as this one.   We incorporate  them by reference
    into this DEIS comment.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Moscow,  ID  -
    #22.57.13100.160)

    RESPONSE:
    While the Restoration Principles proposed by Dellasala et. al.  may contain valuable
    insights to the overall effort of ecosystem restoration, the Forest Service is mandated
    to by Congress to follow NFMA and NEPA regulations. The Nez Perce Forest  Plan
    provides the  overall guidance for management of the specific management areas.
    The NEPA document (American and Crooked River Project EIS) details the  purpose
    and need for the proposed action (Chapter 1 FEIS), a full range of alternatives which
    will achieve the  purpose and  need (Chapter 2), and analysis  of the effects  of those
    alternatives (Chapter 3). These do not necessarily correspond directly with all the
    principles and criteria outlined in the Restoration  Principles.  During the NEPA
    process, publics  have the opportunity to comment and state  their opinions as you
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have done.  Any action taken to adopt guidelines (such as Dellasala et. al.) which
vary from those already established and approved through the planning process may
require an extra level of involvement, or a Forest Plan Amendment.

There are some similarities  between the proposed activities and the Restoration
Principles, however. The table below provides a checklist of the similarities between
the eight sub-principles and  the FEIS, and where they may be reviewed  in more
detail.

      Ecological Forest Restoration Principles and Criteria Checklist
DellaSala, et al., 2003
Core Principle
\. Ecoloaical Forest Restoration — Enhance
ecoloaical intearitv bv restorina natural
processes and resiliency
Sub principles
1. Ecological Forest Restoration — Enhance
ecological integrity by restoring natural
processes and resiliency
2. Forest Restoration Assessment Principle —
Conduct a restoration assessment prior to
restoration activities
3. Ecological Restoration Approaches
Principle — Determine the appropriate use of
protection, passive and active restoration
based on restoration assessments
4. Community Protection Zone Principle —
Distinguish between fuel-reduction treatments
that restore ecological integrity and those that
serve primarily to protect property and human
life.
5. Adaptive Management Principle —
Monitoring and evaluation must be assured
before restoration proceeds, and be
incorporated into the cost of the project
Monitoring and Evaluation Criteria.
II. Ecoloqical Economics — Develop or
make use of restoration incentives that
protect or restore ecoloaical intearitv
6. Economic Framework Principle — Develop
positive incentives to encourage ecologically
FEIS - American and Crooked River Project
2005
See Sub-principles below.
The purpose of the project is to reduce existing
and potential forest fuels, create conditions that
will contribute to sustaining long-lived fire
tolerant tree species (ponderosa pine, western
larch) and contribute to the economic and social
well-being of people who use, and reside, within
the local area.2 FEIS Chapter 1, Purpose and
Need.
The area's existing condition was determined
using field data and the findings and
recommendations from the South Fork
Clearwater River Landscape Assessment
(SFLA). FEIS Chapter!
Specialists' effects analysis of the alternatives
and the responsible official's decision. FEIS
Chapter 3 and Record of Decision (ROD).
WUI and non-WUI designations within the
analysis area. FEIS Chapter 2, description of
the alternatives and Chapter 3, Effects of the
Alternatives.
FEIS Appendix I Monitoring Plan. FEIS Chapter
2, description of the alternatives and Chapter 3,
Effects of the Alternatives.
See Sub-principles below.
FEIS chapter three, economic analysis, effects
of the alternatives on vegetation.
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DellaSala, et at., 2003
sound restoration.
III. Communities and Work Force — Make
use of or train a hiqhlv skilled, well-
comoensated work force to conduct
restoration
7. Community/Work Force Sustainability
Principle — Effective restoration depends on
strong, healthy, and diverse communities and
a skilled, committed work force.
8. Participatory Principle — Encourage
involvement of a diversity of communities,
interest groups, agencies, and other
stakeholders at all levels
FEIS - American and Crooked River Project
2005

See Sub-principles below.
Meetings with Nez Perce Tribe, Framing Our
Community, Bennett Forest Industries.
t
NEPA scoping, meetings with Nez Perce Tribe,
Framing Our Community, ILC, Friends of the
Clearwater, open houses, field trips, etc. See
FEIS response to DEIS comments.
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 MONITORING

 MONITORING GENERAL

45. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD MONITOR.
    A.  1.  Monitoring should be a high priority item, and funding must be secured.  Only
           through  sound  project  level  monitoring  will there be  proof that  land
           management activities can  be conducted with  modern  harvest systems
           without a negative impact on other resource values, particularly water quality
           and fish. (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5. 14.30100. 720)
           RESPONSE:
           Comment acknowledged.  The monitoring plan has been amended with
           more specific information in the FEIS. Please see Appendix I.
                                    (S8C8CS
        2.  Additional issues of concern include a lack of monitoring and discussion of
           Heritage issues,  Wild and  Scenic  Rivers (existing and  proposed),   and
           monitoring and evaluation.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
           ID -#15.145.30100.730)

           RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
    B.  1.  FOR INDICATOR SPECIES THAT INCLUDES ELK
           Monitoring impacts on indicator species must include elk.  We must be able
           to evaluate timber harvest activities to determine if timber stands are opened
           sufficiently to provide quality summer forage.  Both the Idaho Fish and Game
           Department  and Nez  Perce  Tribe  should be involved in  this activity.
           (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID -#5.16.30100.340)

           RESPONSE:
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       Staffing  and  funding  levels must be  considered  by  line officers when
       prioritizing all required Forest  activities  and completing all desired tasks
       becomes difficult when budgets  become constrained.
C. FOR THREATENED. ENDANAGERED. AND SENSITIVE PLANTS AND ANIMALS AS PART OF
   THE BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT
   A thorough field survey for threatened,  endangered, and sensitive plants and
   animals should be undertaken as part  of the biological assessment.  Areas
   containing  threatened, endangered,  and sensitive  plant and  wildlife species
   within the proposed treatment areas should be mapped, avoided, and monitored
   prior  to   and  after  management   activities.     (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID -#15.1 22.301 00.340)
   RESPONSE:

   The FEIS Appendix A maps  8-a and 8-b show fish distribution including
   TES species.  Section 3.3 of the FEIS provides baseline information for the
   fish and discusses how the activities will be managed to protect  these fish.
   Pre-project field surveys for wildlife have been conducted for this project
   (See American/Crooked Project Wildlife Observation  Table - in the project
   file). This information  was incorporated into the biological assessment and
   evaluation. Further details on  mitigation and monitoring can be found in the
   FEIS Section 2.3.
D. FOR POPULATION TRENDS

   Temporal considerations of the impacts on  wildlife population  viability  from
   implementing something  with such  long duration as a  Forest Plan must be
   considered (id.) but this has never been done by the Nez Perce NF.  It is also of
   paramount importance to monitor population trends (as mandated by the Forest
   Plan)  during the  implementation  of the Forest Plan  in order  to  validate
   assumptions used about  long-term species persistence i.e., population viability
   (Marcot and Murphy, 1992; Lacy and Clark,  1993).  (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Moscow, ID -#22.68.301 00.350)

   RESPONSE:

   The Forest Plan monitoring and evaluation reports annually related species
   monitoring results and general trends. In addition, the project file holds a
   document titled: "Habitat-based Terrestrial Vertebrate Populations Viability
   Related to the American and Crooked River Project (USDA FS, 2004a),
   which holds a summary of species monitoring over the past sixteen years.
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46. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD INCLUDE PAST EXPERIENCE AND MONITORING ASSOCIATED
    WITH THE NEZSED MODEL.

    Past experience and monitoring associated with the  NEZSED  model should be
    provided in the FINAL EIS in order to allow for the appropriate consideration of the
    models   shortcomings,   especially  for  a    project   of   this  magnitude.
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.37.21100.210)

    RESPONSE:
    A summary of NEZSED limitations and field tests was provided in  Chapter 3 of
    the DEIS.  A more detailed discussion has been added to Appendix E of the
    FEIS.
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     RESPONSE:

     Both broad-scale and locally relevant studies have examined the role of fire
     within the last  1,000  years.   Many studies have concluded that,  despite
     considerable  local  or  temporal variability, fire suppression has tended to
     change stand structure and composition in areas of frequent, low severity fire.
     In areas of longer interval, mixed and more severe fire regimes, like much of
     the  project area, fire suppression has resulted in changes in landscape-scale
     pattern and the proportion of different forest age  classes represented in  a
     landscape (Quigley and Arbelbide, 1997, page 855; USDA FS, 1998, 2000,
     2001, 2002, 2003). The South Fork  Landscape Assessment, page 89, found
     that fires affected almost 6000 acres  per year on average from about 1880 to
     1930, and since then have burned about 400 acres annually, a more than 90
     percent decline.  Fire history mapping  and fire scar studies in other areas of the
     forest corroborate the pervasive role  of fire within at least the last 300 years
     (Barrett, 1993).

     Although  harvest in the American and Crooked River watersheds has been
     extensive,  it has not simulated  the pattern or processes  of natural fire.  The
     resultant vegetation pattern in some areas is harvest units dispersed in a matrix
     of mature forest.  These forests, with their significant  proportion  of dying
     lodgepole pine, are susceptible to wind driven lethal fires under the appropriate
     weather conditions.   While  not  unnatural, such  fires could  be difficult  to
     suppress.  Community  concerns for property and firefighter safety suggested
     the  purpose and need:  to reduce fuels in strategic locations to improve fire
     suppression effectiveness, increase the proportion of fire resistant tree species,
     and  reduce likelihood  of locally severe  fire effects in  areas of high fuel
     accumulations. Refer to Chapter 1, Section 1.3.
     Changes due to  logging, mining and grazing were assessed for the American
     and  Crooked  River watersheds in the South Fork Landscape  Assessment
     (USDA FS 1998), the South Fork Clearwater Biological Assessment (1999),
     and  have been updated and made more site-specific in the discussion of the
     affected environment for the project area.  See FEIS 3 under the discussion of
     existing conditions for each resource area.
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 SECTION 3 - SOILS AND WATERSHEDS

 SOILS AND SEDIMENTATION

49.  THE NEZ PERCE  NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ANALYZE ACTIVITIES THAT AFFECT
     SOILS.

     Among other things,  we are concerned that project activities will accelerate soil
     erosion, increase soil compaction, and degrade soil productivity. NFMA requires the
     FS to "not allow significant or permanent impairment of the productivity of the land."
     136  C.F.R. 2.   NFMA requires the Forest Service  to "ensure that  timber will be
     harvested  from  National Forest System  lands  only where-soil,  slope, or  other
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    watershed conditions will not be irreversibly damaged." [16 U.S.C. 1604 (g)(3)(E)]
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.26.31200.133)

    RESPONSE:
    The regulatory framework for protection of soil resources is displayed  in FEIS,
    Chapter 3, Section 3.1. The analysis of effects on soils, including compaction,
    displacement, erosion,  mass wasting, nitrogen, potassium, and soil wood, is also
    in this Section. Project design and mitigation measures developed to keep soil
    effects within  Forest Plan standards, protect slope stability, and to respond to
    additional productivity concerns, are in Table 2.3.  Additional  soil  improvement
    projects to help restore soil productivity on other sites within the project  area are
    shown in Appendix D.
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50. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD SELECT HARVEST TECHNIQUES WITH
    THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SOIL DISTURBANCE.
    A.  The methods that are proposed to harvest trees from the project area are likely to
        compact soil,  increase erosion, and incur more disturbance than is acceptable.
        In areas where  treatments  are  ecologically appropriate,  the Forest Service
        should select harvesting techniques with the least amount of soil  disturbance.
        Multi-span cable yarding with a  full-tree  suspension system and  helicopter
        logging should be considered instead of tractor-jammer systems where feasible.

        We recommend  that any and all harvesting occur over frozen or dry soil, with
        recognition of sensitivity to  nesting  or denning species.   An increase in hand
        thinning and a decrease in mechanized thinning  would also lower detrimental soil
        disturbance factors. Vehicles which destroy ground cover, expose mineral soil to
        erosion, and compact  soils for reduced absorption and increased runoff should
        be specifically prohibited. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
        #15.118.34400.231)
     B.  BY MINIMIZING GROUND BASED LOGGING
        Ground-based logging should be minimized as  much as possible since it would
        further degrade soil quality via compaction.   Not only should logging be scaled
        back,  but the logging which  does occur should include those methods that have
        the least impact on soil quality. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
        ID-#15.41.34400.231)
        RESPONSE:
        Logging systems are chosen based on a combination of cost, terrain, and
        silvicultural prescription and are described in Chapter 1 of the FEIS.  Cable
        logging is prescribed for  about 41 percent of the proposed  harvest acres and
        ground-based systems  for  59  percent.  Effects  of ground-based logging
        including compaction, displacement and erosion  are analyzed in  the FEIS
        Chapter 3, Section 3.1.   Extensive  design criteria and mitigation measures
        have  been  developed  for this  project to  limit detrimental  soil  physical
        disturbance from ground-based logging (refer to Table 2.1).   Monitoring is
        also proposed  during and  after  implementation to validate  soil  resource
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        protection measures. Monitoring will be done to identify units with cumulative
        soil disturbance in excess of Forest Plan standards and they will be treated
        through  post-activity soil  restoration  work.   See  the  Monitoring  Plan  in
        Appendix I.
51 . THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONFIRM THAT SOIL COMPACTION
    THRESHOLDS COMPLY WITH FS HANDBOOK FSH 2509.18.

    The Forest Management Handbook at FSH 2509.18 directs the FS to do validation
    monitoring to "Determine if coefficients,  S&Gs, and requirements meet regulations,
    goals and policy" (2. 1 - Exhibit 01).  It asks what we  are asking: "Are the threshold
    levels for soil compaction adequate for maintaining soil productivity? Is allowing 15%
    of an area to be impaired appropriate to  meet planning goals?"  The Ecology Center
    recently asked the Northern  Region if they have ever  performed this validation
    monitoring of its 15% Standard, in their February 26,2002 Freedom of Information
    Act request to the Regional Forester,  requesting:
    The Forest Management Handbook at FSH 2509. 18 provides the Forest Service with
    examples of validation  monitoring  to  "Determine  if  coefficients,  S&Gs,  and
    requirements meet regulations, goals and policy." It asks "Are the threshold levels
    for soil compaction adequate for maintaining soil productivity? Is allowing 15% of an
    area to  be  impaired  appropriate to  meet planning goals?"   We request all
    documentation of validation monitoring by the Forest Service in  the Northern Region
    that answers those two questions.

    The Northern Region office's reply letter stated that them is no documentation that
    responds  to  this request.   If the Nez  Perce NF is aware of any new or other
    documentation that would respond to this request, we  ask  that you please disclose it
    to   us  now.      (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Moscow,   ID   -
    #22.27.30100.230)
    RESPONSE:

    The soil quality standards applied to this project are those of the Forest Plan.  The
    validation  of soil quality  standards  requires  a well-designed research  program
    addressing  differences  in soils,  forest  types,  climates  and  treatment  types.
    Dumroese et al. (2000) found  that the same standard for displacement would result
    in widely varying amounts of carbon and nitrogen loss depending on soil type, while
    effects on seedling survival and growth  of compaction or displacement also varied
    widely in many cited studies.   Soil compaction and displacement  effects are being
    studied under  the  North  American Long-Term Soil Productivity Study,  which
    replicates treatments of forest  floor removal and compaction across many soil types
    and  climate zones (Powers, 1990).  This study should help us understand degrees
    of impacts at a point.   Studies to examine the areal extent of impacts on soil,
    hydrologic and vegetation processes at a broader scale could be more complicated.
    The derivation of the 1 5 percent Region 1 guideline (or 20 percent in the Forest Plan)
    for areal extent of disturbance was thought to represent the threshold of statistical
    detectability,  in its effect on stand productivity (Howes,  personal communication,
    2004; Cline,  personal communication, 2004).
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52. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD INCLUDE THE EFFECTS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT ON SOIL
    PRODUCTIVITY.
    The FE/S needs to analyze the effects of removing potassium-containing vegetation
    on nutrient cycling in the area.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
    #15.104.21100.232)
    RESPONSE:
    Analysis of potassium and nitrogen removal is in FEIS Chapter 3, Section 3.1.
    The design criteria and  mitigation in Table 2.1 specify bole-only yarding to reduce
    potassium loss,  and additional  actions to over-winter slash before burning  to
    allow for nutrient leaching, to minimize excessive slash piling and redistribution of
    nutrients, and  to  constrain slash  burn  intensity to  reduce the amount  of
    potassium and nitrogen volatilized.
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53. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD CLARIFY AND DOCUMENT HOW LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY
    OF SOIL CONDITIONS WILL BE PROTECTED.
    A.  GIVEN POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF GROUND BASED EQUIPMENT AND SLASH TREATMENT
        Long term impacts  to soil potassium and nitrogen may be unacceptable  under
        the National Forest  Management Act and the existing Forest Plan.  Please  clarify
        in the FEIS how the application of ground based equipment, in concert with high-
        severity slash treatments will ensure the long-term sustainability of soil resources
        in  the project area.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise, ID -
        #15.42.10400.230)

        RESPONSE: See response to comment 52 above.
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    B.  GIVEN INADEQUATE EXPLANATION OF HOW FOREST PLAN SOIL STANDARDS WILL BE
        MET
        The DEIS fails to adequately explain how Forest Plan Soil quality standards will
        be met. There is inadequate information provided in several locations including
        one at page 44  which states, "Assuming that compaction and displacement can
        be held to within the 20 percent area  disturbance threshold of Forest Plan Soil
        quality standard 2?" The FS must clarify what this assumption is based on since
        it appears to be unlikely given the past compaction  and displacement that has
        occurred from other logging projects in the area.
        There are apparent contradictions in the DEIS.  At  page 87  it states,  "All
        alternatives may meet  Forest Plan soil quality standards on harvest units, if
        mitigation and design measures are rigorously implemented, so that cumulative
        effects are the same for all alternatives  on a site  basis."  It then goes on to
        seemingly discount this prediction  when it states, "The likelihood of exceeding
        the standards increases with increasing number of activity areas proposed  for
        ground based logging or temporary road construction."  Given that the Preferred
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        Action, Alternative D, is ranked as the worst alternative in this regard, it is highly
        questionable  whether soil  quality standards would be  met,  regardless  of
        mitigation  measures.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise,  ID -
        #15.39.10400.231)
        RESPONSE:

        This discussion has been  augmented  in the FEIS.   Please See FEIS 3,
        Section 3.1, summary  of cumulative  effects for soil physical  properties and
        compliance with forest plan standards.
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54. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD LOOK AT SEDIMENTATION EFFECTS.

    A.  TO DETERMINE IF ADDITIONAL SEDIMENT REDUCTION PROJECTS COULD BE IDENTIFIED
        IN SILVER AND QUARTZ CREEKS

        In addition, if this is an area [Silver and Quartz Creeks] of particularly high
        sediment loading, perhaps  additional  sediment reduction  projects could be
        identified in these watersheds to further reduce sediment levels towards the
        TMDL goal. (Federal Agency, Elected Official, Seattle,  WA - #24. 12.31200. 180)
        RESPONSE:

        Additional field assessment and modeling were conducted for Silver and
        Quartz Creeks for the FEIS. Site-specific recommendations were made to
        reduce sediment yield from existing roads planned for reconditioning, new
        temporary roads and harvest units. These recommendations were
        incorporated and are documented in the Record of Decision. This review
        also resulted in adjustments to the stream crossings planned for upgrades  in
        Silver Creek.
    B. TO CONDUCT ADDITIONAL MITIGATION MEASURES AND DECREASE SOIL
       SEDIMENTATION

       While  road obliteration will  improve water quality  in  the  long term,  road
       obliteration and reconstruction will inevitably entail  soil disturbance and short-
       term increases in sedimentation rates. Additional mitigation measures, such as
       stream bank stabilization upstream  and downstream of the site,  are needed
       which guarantee no near-term net increases in soil disturbance or sedimentation
       in the watershed as a whole.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID
       -#15.74.31200.230)

       RESPONSE:

       Stream   crossings  are  given  special   attention  during  design  and
       implementation of road obliteration projects.  Site-specific  best management
       practices are employed to minimize short-term sediment yield and to enhance
       stability of the stream  and  adjacent slopes.   Within the  crossing site,
       measures might include dewatering, drop structures, placement  of large
       wood, mulching, seeding, and/or planting.  Temporary sediment traps might
       be utilized downstream of the crossing. In some case, channel gradient and
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        steps need to be reestablished upstream of the site.  The mix of measures
        applied will vary based on site characteristics.
55. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION ABOUT
    ANALYSIS AND CONCLUSIONS RELATED TO SEDIMENT TRANSPORT AND DEPOSITION.

    A.  TO SUPPORT CLAIMS THAT CURRENTLY DEGRADED STEAM CONDITIONS WILL BE
        REVERSED
        1 .  There is a significant inconsistency between current assessments of river and
           stream conditions versus, again, what you augur will happen in some distant
           future in terms of habitat improvement. As an example, on pages 12 and 130
           you summarize these river systems for their existing condition of Cobble
           Embeddedness,  Pool:  Riffle  Ratios, Large  Woody  Debris and Percent
           Surface Fines.  This is a pretty good general summation of what condition
           these rivers are in regarding fisheries habitat.  You also show in  the same
           tables what the Forest Service objectives are for each  of these components.
           In the majority of the stream reaches, your own data clearly shows serious
           shortcomings in stream health.  In my limited experience,  when rivers and
           tributary streams are  allowed to degrade to  this  extent,  it is extremely
           questionable if and when they will ever return to any degree of their original
           condition.   Never the  less, this DEIS,  by subtle suggestion, predicts that
           eventually, these degrading conditions will be reversed.  On  page 101, you
           tell the public that low gradient  stream sediment "tends" to have  a long
           residence  time but will "eventually" be  transported  or reorganized by high
           steam flows.  You do not describe the  sediment as to whether it is fine or
           course material nor do you volunteer the fact  that often this predicted "high"
           stream flow will frequently be the source of additional deposits of sediment of
           varying size and weight.  High stream flows can and do move fine sediments,
           However,  when course "bedload" sediments  are deposited in the medium
           gradient stream segments,  it fills virtually every depression, including critical
           pools. You are acutely aware of this.  I point this out because the previously
           referred to tables testify to a very low Pool to Rifle ratio, indicating we are
           dealing  with  sediment of a  size  and weight nature  that  is  not  easily
           transported or reorganized as you imply will  happen.  It is such  incredibly
           generalized  assurances that I challenge.   (Individual, Post  Falls,  ID  -
           #19.6.13100.234)
           RESPONSE:
           Further discussion of the characteristics of sediment yield, transport and
           deposition in  the American and Crooked River watersheds  is found in
           Appendix E of the DEIS and FEIS. This  includes an  explanation  of the
           particle sizes that are expected to be produced from project activities and
           those that have been sampled  in  transport at gauging  stations in nearby
           streams. The low poohriffle ratios in  mainstem reaches of American and
           Crooked Rivers are primarily explained by the dredge mining that took
           place during the first half of the 20th century.  The channel morphology
           was drastically  altered by this practice,  with loss  of pools being one
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   outcome.  These streams have  been partially  restored with instream
   enhancement projects, and this project will further improve the situation in
   Crooked River with maintenance  of existing structures and additional
   instream enhancements.  The dredge mining in American River took
   place largely below the Forest boundary. Based on channel observations
   and monitoring  in  nearby Red River,  it  is  evident  that the bedload
   transport in American and Crooked Rivers consists mostly of sands and
   gravels.    Coarser cobble materials  are  also transported, but not in
   excessive quantities that result in significant channel aggradation.  The
   concern with sediment deposition is mostly with fine materials (less than
   6mm in  diameter)  that intrude into coarser  substrates.   This size of
   material  can be  remobilized  by  high  streamflows.   Our approach is
   premised on a reduction in chronic sediment yield, which should result in
   improved substrate conditions over time.  This effect  should  be  further
   enhanced  by instream improvements, which  are in  part designed  to
   improve sediment transport.
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2.  You offer absolutely no credible evidence that such a corrective process will,
   in fact take place within any reasonable time frame. (Individual, Post Falls, ID
   -#19.7.13100.234)

   RESPONSE:

   Section 3.3. (Fisheries) of the Final  Environmental Impact Statement
   supplies  information pertaining to  past  research that provides  evidence
   that such  corrective  activities will improve  aquatic  condition  in the
   watershed  within  reasonable time frames.   The following is an excerpt
   from Section 3.3. (Fisheries) of the FEIS. In this work, Idaho Department
   of Fish and Game employee Russ Kiefer (Fisheries Biologist) makes the
   following observations:

       •   Our research indicates that in streams degraded by dredge
          mining, connecting off-channel ponds to the stream can
          increase the carrying  capacity  for Chinook  salmon  parr
          (Kiefer  and  Forster,  1991),   and  complex   instream
          structures can increase  the carrying capacity for steelhead
          trout parr (Kiefer and Lockhart, 1995a).

       •   We  observed a shift in spawning areas by adult Chinook
          salmon  to  cleaner gravel  areas  produced  by habitat
          rehabilitation structures in  Crooked River  (Kiefer  and
          Lockhart, 1993).  In streams with more than 30 percent
          sand  in spawning  areas,  habitat structures that  collect
          cleaner gravel with less than 30 percent should increase
          smolt production.

       •   Complex habitat enhancement structures  apparently can
          increase the carrying capacity for age-1+ steelhead trout in
          streams with low habitat complexity.  Dredge mining has
          reduced the habitat  complexity in  the upper meadow
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             section of Crooked River (Middle Crooked River) by forcing
             the channel against the canyon wall on the east side of the
             meadow.  We observed more than double the  density  of
             age-1+ steelhead in  complex habitat study sites than we
             observed in control or simple sill log habitat sites in 1992
             (Kieferand Lockhart, 1995).
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B. BY CHARACTERIZING PARAMETER VALUES. ASSUMPTIONS. POTENTIAL BIAS. AND
   UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEZSED SEDIMENT MODEL. IN THE ABSENCE
   OF MONITORING DATA
   There  is an increasing reliance  on modeled parameters at  the expense of
   continuing needed monitoring as required by the forest plan. NEZSED is used
   as the model in spite of serious problems with it.  There is  one critiques of
   NEZSED referenced in the DEIS (Gloss  1995).  However, the DEIS fails to
   capture the serious problems with this model uncovered in that master's thesis.
   Even more critical is the omission Mickey's research of WATBAL  NEZSED is a
   "version" of WATBAL and it is very similar.  This peer-reviewed study by Mickey
   (1997) has documented that the WATBAL model consistently underestimates the
   amount of sediment actually  reaching  streams.   WATBAL underestimates
   sedimentation for a number of reasons.  One example is that the model assumes
   that all sedimentation effects front roads significantly diminish after  a brief period
   In fact, as the 1995-96 slides, particularly on the adjacent Clearwater National
   Forest graphically demonstrated,  roads and road failures can continue to
   contribute sediment to streams, often on a massive scale, for literally decades
   (McClelland et al. 1997; Pipp et al. 1997; Espinosa, 1998). Another major flaw
   illustrated by Mickey was the manner in which the model deals with precipitation
   especially storm events. The model deals with average conditions,  and does not
   consider intense  storm  events, such  as the  1995-96 events.  Indeed, the
   McClelland study similarly noted (Vol. II, p.4) that  'WATBAL is not an episodic
   simulator and was never intended to  model events.   The program's source
   information was (and continues to be) based on long-term  measured averages."
   Many of the watersheds that were blown-out by the flooding and landslides in
   1995-96 were assessed as "recovered" by WATBAL.
   The  DEIS claims all  /s well with water  quality, based upon NEZSED and other
   predictions.  This is not based upon monitoring data. (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.21.13100.234)
   The  reliance of the project on  the NEZSED model is problematic.   The FEIS
   should consider and discuss limitations and requirements of the model to provide
   accurate  estimates  for  sediment  delivery.    (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID-#15.36.13000.234)

   RESPONSE:
   The  section on model limitations and  tests, found in Chapter 3 of the DEIS,
   has  been expanded in Appendix E of the FEIS.   The results of four
   NEZSED model tests are discussed, including a new test  by Thomas and
   King (2004).  WATBAL and NEZSED share certain common ancestry with
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   regard to surface erosion  sediment yield and  equivalent clearcut area
   computations.  They  are different  in that  NEZSED does  not  estimate
   activity-related mass erosion events greater then 10 cubic yards  in size,
   nor does NEZSED compute water yield increases.  NEZSED coefficients
   show that sediment yield from roads decreases after initial construction, but
   not to zero.
   The  Mickey (1997)  report compared WATBAL results against measured
   sediment yield data. Although there are similarities between WATBAL and
   NEZSED, there  are  enough  differences that  direct  comparisons are
   problematic.  NEZSED has been tested against local field data and those
   results are presented in Appendix E of the FEIS.
   The  1 995-1 996 storms on the Clearwater and Nez Perce National Forests
   resulted in numerous landslides from roads.  Few if any of these occurred
   in the American and Crooked River watersheds.  This is due in part to the
   generally low landslide hazard of land types in the project area.
   The  DEIS did not claim that "all is well" with water quality.  It used  a
   combination  of  field   data,  observations,  modeling  and  professional
   judgment to  disclose  current  conditions and  estimated  effects of the
   alternatives.
C. BY CLARIFYING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SEDIMENTATION. HIGH FLOW EVENTS,
   AND CANOPY REMOVAL

   There  /s another issue that  is being avoided in your DEIS;  I  suspect  this
   avoidance is intentional as I cannot nor do I believe the  Nez Perce  NF is
   unaware of the  water release changes brought about by  excessive canopy
   removal. Your DEIS very briefly discusses this problem on page 91 where  you
   refer to research in nearby Horse Creek which  "demonstrated instantaneous
   peak flow increase up  to 34 percent and maximum daily flow increases up to 87
   percent, ".  You also cite work done by King and  Gerhardt regarding  this peak
   flow  problem.   Garry Kappesser Studied  this phenomena extensively  and
   determined  that  large, and  some not so  large, removals  of the  overstory
   produced significant changes  in snow deposition and melting processes.  As
   referred to in the DEIS, this work has been studied extensively by  Mr. King on the
   H. J. Andrews Experimental Forest in  Oregon.  Further studies of the  effects of
   large clearcut openings and increased flows has been studied on  the H. J.
   Andrews (see Water Resources Research, Vol. 32, No. 4, April 1996, Jones  and
   Grant;  and Vol. 37, No. 1, Jan. 2001,  Jones  and Grant) which corroborated the
   conclusions  that clear cuts, especially large cut  areas, exacerbate  the peak
   runoff  of snow melt, causing mi damage to down stream  watersheds.   The
   presence of roads  significantly aggravates  this  problem but  the  excessive
   sediment deposition is  not exclusive to roads alone. This very probably explains,
   at least in part, the low Pool to Rifle ratios in the American and Crooked River
   systems.  With  the  typical aggregate  size deposited due to these peak flow
   events, it is extremely doubtful that this sediment or bedload can  be removed by
   a high  flow transportation event.  Even if such an event does happen (75 to  100
   year or greater event)  the ensuing damage from that high flow often is counter
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   productive in correcting past depositions.  This DEIS completely  ignores or
   avoids serious discussion of this very common problem.
   Your Appendix E, page  E-26 shows again, a vague prediction that  "vegetation
   treatments (logging and thinning) will have a Low negative impact over the short
   term on aquatic conditions but you completely disregard any long term impacts to
   the hydrologic process due to this logging.
   It is for the above reasons that I make the statement that while attempting to
   reduce fire risk you are probably  going  to do so at the  expense of further
   degradation of the watershed be cause of the extensive removal ofoverstory and
   the inclusion of  new  "temporary" roads.    (Individual,  Post Falls,   ID -
   #19.9.13100.241)

   RESPONSE:
   The DEIS and FEIS disclose the effects of timber harvest on water yield
   changes, peak flows and stream channels  using a combination of research
   data, field data, EGA modeling and professional judgment.  The concerns
   expressed by the  commenter  with  regard to excessive coarse bedload
   deposition have not been observed to a large degree in the upper South
   Fork Clearwater subbasin.  This is primarily due to the climate, flow regime,
   geology and  stream types of the area.   Refer to the cumulative effects
   analysis in Chapter 3.
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D. TO SUPPORT QUESTIONABLE CLAIMS THAT TIMBER HARVEST. ON AREAS AT RISK
   FROM LANDSLIDES. IS NOT OF CONCERN
   The DEIS claims, without offering  any evidence,  that logging  in  areas with
   moderate hazard for landslides is not a concern. Given that areas naturally slide
   in the Clearwater drainage, such an approach  if  far too cavalier. There  is no
   evidence presented that areas at  risk for landslides can be logged without
   threatening the watershed.
   BMPs won't prevent landslides. In fact, Magistrate Judge Erickson sided with
   plaintiffs on the adjacent Clearwater National Forest on the Fish Bate timber sale.
   The judge noted (NO.  CV-97-208-M-LBE):
   Because BMPs have not been assessed for their effectiveness against landslide
   events and because a high risk of landslides is acknowledged in the Fish Bate
   preferred alternative, the Court finds it is  not reasonable for the  Defendants to
   just summarily rely on BMPs to mitigate this environmental impact Therefore, the
   Court finds the FEIS conclusion that the project will have no effect on  water
   quality to be  arbitrary and capricious based on the undisputed risk of landslides
   in the FEIS.   Accordingly, the decision is reversed and remanded. This issue is
   applicable   here. (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Moscow,   ID  -
   #22.24.13100.247)

   RESPONSE:
   The discussion of landslide analysis and management has been expanded
   in the FEIS.  Please see FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1.
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    longer than  predicted.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID  -
    #15.32.21100.160)

    RESPONSE: No such amendments are proposed with this project.
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59. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD PROVIDE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING QUESTIONABLE CLAIMS
    THAT MITIGATION EFFORTS, SUCH AS DECOMMISSIONING ROADS, CAN OFFSET
    DAMAGES CAUSED BY TIMBER HARVEST.

    There is  the continuation of a serious problem in these DEIS's, and this project is
    replete with this problem,  of the  very  vague assurance to the public that certain
    mitigation work,  such as "decommissioning" older roads,  will produce  tangible
    improvements in  the watershed;  enough  so  as to offset damage caused by the
    project itself On page 145, Cumulative  Effects, you refer to Table 3 on page 33 as
    listing of projects that supposedly  will have  some undefined effect on improving
    fisheries.  Yet, out of a  list of 42 projects, there seems to be only one project or
    activity that could possibly be construed as benefiting fisheries and that,  again, is
    very general by  saying  "Improving road surface—graveling  and grading work".
    Appendix D does a very good job  in detailing mitigation work to be performed under
    the various  alternatives.   However, it remains to be seen whether this work is
    sufficient to truly overcome the negative impacts of the projects main objective and
    that is  to getting  25   MMBF off of the land.    (Individual,  Post  Falls,  ID  -
    #19.4.13100.381)

    RESPONSE;

    The aquatic trend analysis in Appendix E of the FEIS is the  documentation
    leading to the conclusion that an upward trend in aquatic condition is predicted
    in the long term.  This  analysis takes into account the positive and negative
    effects of the project activities in the short and long term.
    See response to comment 7, above,  for further  discussion  of fish habitat
    improvements planned  under this action.   The proposed action would treat
    approximately seven percent of the  project area.  Refer to the tables in  FEIS,
    Chapter 2
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60. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PROVIDE A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF
    SEDIMENT SOURCES COMPARING CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ROAD DECOMMISSIONING
    AND NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION FOR EACH ALTERNATIVE.

    The Forest  Service should provide a  detailed analysis of the sediment sources
    comparing contributions  from road decommissioning and new road construction for
    each alternative.  Predictions of sediment delivery to streams need to  take into
    account the fact that PACFISH and INFISH buffers rely on intact buffer zones not
    impacted by  previous   road construction,  harvesting, and  mining   activities.
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.29.30300.234)
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     RESPONSE:

     The sediment yield analysis is done by summing the effects of each project
     activity that could be modeled.  A summary of sediment yield from new road
     construction, road decommissioning and other  project components for the
     selected alternative  is  found  in  the  Biological  Assessment, which is  an
     appendix to the Record of Decision. We do not believe it necessary to disclose
     this level of detail for each alternative. Since this information is not directly
     related to the condition of  PACFISH RHCAs, it was determined that it was
     unnecessary to provide this level of detail for each alternative.
     INFISH buffers do not apply to the Nez Perce National Forest.
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61.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD QUANTIFY CHANGES IN SEDIMENT
     LEVELS IN THE SILVER AND QUARTZ CREEKS.

     S/Vver and Quartz Creeks are stated to have high sediment levels, but these levels
     are not quantified.  In order to fully evaluate this project, we believe it would be useful
     to attempt to quantify these levels  and,  if possible, document how they may change
     with the  different alternatives.   (Federal Agency,  Elected Official, Seattle,  WA -
     #24.11.13110.234)

     RESPONSE:

     This analysis was completed for the FEIS.  The results are found in Table 3.17
     with accompanying narrative.
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62.  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PRIORITIZE WATER QUALITY, FISH
     POPULATIONS, SOIL PRODUCTIVITY AND WILDLIFE PROTECTION.

     Water quality,  anadromous fish populations, soil productivity, and wildlife protection
     must be  the priorities of national forest managers, not below-cost timber sales that
     wreak damage,  requiring centuries of nature's repairs.  Road-building and clear
     cutting are not consistent with these objectives, given the cumulative impacts of past
     sales  such  as  Whiskey South,  Blacktail  Butte,  and Red  Pines.   (Individual,
     Minneapolis, MN - #32.2.30000.360)

     RESPONSE:

     Comment acknowledged. The selected  alternative is consistent with the Forest Plan,
     which considers these values in context.cs (33(3303(33(33

63.  THE NEZ PERCE  NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PROTECT RIPARIAN AREAS.

     A.  BY PRESCRIBING NEW BUFFER ZONES

        The Forest Service should prescribe  new buffer zones, which will adequately
        protect riparian areas from sedimentation stemming from road construction and
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        management-related  mass  wasting  events.     (Preservation/Conservation
        Organization, Boise, ID - #15.30.31120.234)

        RESPONSE:
        The  Interim  Strategies  for  Managing  Anadromous  Fish-Producing
        Watersheds on Federal  Lands  in Eastern Oregon and Washington, Idaho
        and Portions of California (PACFISH) and supporting literature (February
        24,  1995)  establishes   default  Riparian  Habitat  Conservation Areas
        (RHCAs) which were shown to protect streams from management activities.
        These RHCAs have been incorporated into the design criteria for this
        project (FEIS Section 3.3).
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    B.  BY LIMITING ACTIVITIES TO ONLY WATERSHED RESTORATION PROJECTS
        According to  the DEIS, "Management  activities in riparian  areas  would be
        minimized," at page 17.  Activities in RHCAs should  be limited to include ONLY
        watershed restoration  projects.  No other activities  should be permitted within
        RHCAs.       (Preservation/Conservation    Organization,    Boise,   ID
        #15.135.31120.247)

        RESPONSE:
        No timber harvest is proposed in the streamside RHCAs. Temporary roads
        have been  located to  avoid  RHCAs.   In  the event that  RHCAs are
        encountered  during construction, these activities will be conducted  to
        minimize impacts following recommendations contained in PACFISH (see
        response to comment 62, above).
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64. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD RESTORE THE WATERSHED.
    A.  TO SUPPORT FISH POPULATIONS
        A better way to contribute to the economic and social well being of the local
        communities is to repair the decades of abuse the landscape has suffered and
        restore the watershed so that it supports thriving populations of Chinook Salmon,
        Steelhead Trout, Bull  Trout, Lampreys and other species.  There are decades
        worth of restoration projects in  this area needing  skilled forest workers.   In
        addition, fishing  continues to bring significant income to the local economies.
        (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.11.30000.800)

        RESPONSE:
        This  project  includes all watershed and fish  habitat restoration needs
        identified in the FEIS. See response to comments 7 and 43, above.
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    B.  FOR AQUATIC LIFE FORMS INCLUDING LISTED AND SENSITIVE FISH SPECIES
        One of the most important issues in the area is water quality, watershed health,
        and hydrological integrity and how they affect aquatic life forms including the
        listed and sensitive fish species.  These fish are an important part of Idaho's
        heritage and Forest Service has a grave responsibility to ensure fish populations
        are available to meet the treaties, made between sovereigns, with the Columbia
        Basin Tribes.  Furthermore, all Americans and Idahoans have a keen interest in
        the recovery of native fish.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,
        ID-#22.17.32300.380)

        RESPONSE:
        This project has been designed to meet the needs of the aquatic resources,
        including fish.  The Nez Perce NF  has pursued an active and  ongoing
        dialogue with the Nez  Perce Tribe at key points during the development of
        this proposed project.  Additionally, their advice and input has been sought
        at various stages and  is continually being incorporated into this document.
        Also refer to the individual response to the Nez Perce Tribe's letters in
        Appendix M and the response to comment 20.
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    C.  WITH THE USE OF FIRE
        If you are trying to protect watersheds from adjacent fire, why? A little soot in the
        water from a fire is much better in the watershed than  petroleum product spills
        from logging equipment, and sediment  from roads,  skid  trails, and landings.
        (Individual, Grangeville, ID-#30.4.31100.270)

        RESPONSE:
        The project is designed to minimize the risk of introduced sediment and
        toxics. See FEIS Section 2.3.
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65. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD DESCRIBE WATERSHED CONDITIONS
    THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO THE PRESENCE OF TIMBER HARVEST, RESOURCE
    EXTRACTION, AND DEVELOPMENT.
    A.  TO COMPARE TO CURRENT CONDITIONS AND BETTER ASSESS CUMULATIVE IMPACTS
        When such information is provided, comparison with the current conditions (after
        impacts of development) would aid in the assessment of cumulative effects of all
        alternatives.   It  appears  such information  is  not  available in the  DEIS.
        (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Moscow, ID-#22.19.13100.002)

        RESPONSE:

        Baseline conditions are identified in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3, Tables
        3.24 and 3.27.  Both the DFC Analysis (Espinosa, 1992) and the Revised
        Matrix Pathways and Indicators  of Watershed Condition (Revised 3/9/98).
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   These documents and methodologies provide a  numeric reference of
   optimal fish habitat conditions.

   The USDA  Forest  Service  with  funding  from  the Bonneville  Power
   Administration began restoration of Crooked River in 1984.  This Project will
   continue the restoration effort in Crooked River, which was begun in 1984.
   American River has seen similar dredging activity and restoration work.  For
   a cumulative effects discussion  refer to the FEIS, Chapter 3, Sections 3.2
   and 3.3, and Appendix E.

   Both mainstem American  River and Crooked River occupy wide  valley
   bottoms. Fifth  order  streams  in this  undisturbed setting will typically
   meander across the valley bottom in a C channel  type (Rosgen , 1994).
   These channels are often lined with hardwoods and provide stable undercut
   banks  with good shade and high  quality pools in the meanders.   The
   potential is high for spawning habitat in these areas. A large bucket line
   dredge (Mount Vernon Boat) was moved to Crooked River in 1938  and
   operated there  till 1942  when activities  were  curtailed  by the War
   Production Board (Sharon  Murray, The Mount Vernon Dredge, ?).  In 1939
   alone,  this  dredge moved  218,335 cubic  yards of  gravel. Dredge  mining
   began  again in 1946 for a  short time and started again in 1952, continuing
   until 1958 or 1959. Records (S. Murray)  show well over 1,400,000 cubic
   yards of gravel dug from the Crooked River valley during this period. The
   dredge mining activities turned several miles of the  valley bottom meadow
   into an almost barren strip of rubble piles  and a stream channel devoid of
   fish habitat features.
   The U.S.  Forest Service  with  funding from the  Bonneville  Power
   Administration began restoration of Crooked River in 1984. In summary,
   this project installed over 660 pool and cover-creating instream structures;
   creation  of some  15,000  square meters of juvenile rearing  and winter
   habitat  through   side  channel  construction  and  pond  connection;
   rehabilitation  of approximately 9,230 square meters of flood plain; and the
   planting of some 30,000 hardwood shrubs and small conifers in riparian
   areas  (Siddall, 1992).  American  River has seen similar bucket  line
   dredging and  restoration work.  This project will continue the restoration
   effort in Crooked River began in  1984.
B. BY USING MEASURES SUCH AS VALUES OF RIPARIAN MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES

   It is not clear from the DEIS whether an environmental baseline for watersheds is
   included.  Generally, this means their condition before development or resource
   exploitation  was initiated.  For example,  the  baseline condition  of a  stream
   means the  habitat  conditions  for fish and other aquatic species prior to  the
   impacts of road building, logging, livestock grazing, etc.  Proper disclosure of
   baseline  conditions would mean estimates of stream  stability, pool frequency
   conditions,  water  temperature  range  -essentially the  values  of Riparian
   Management  Objectives along  with  such  parameters  as sediment  levels.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.19.13100.002)
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        RESPONSE:

        Section 3.3 of the FEIS identifies baseline conditions using both the DFC
        Analysis (Espinosa, 1992)  and the Revised  Matrix  of  Pathways  and
        Indicators of Watershed Condition (Revised 3/9/98). These documents and
        methodologies  provide a  numeric  reference  of  optimal fish  habitat
        conditions  that could be expected  in  undisturbed  watersheds (prior to
        development).  Both mainstem American River and Crooked River occupy
        wide valleys.   Prior to development, of which dredge mining was the
        primary influence, these rivers meandered across the valley bottom.  The
        rivers  were likely lined with  abundant grasses and  woody  vegetation
        providing stable banks  and  shade.  The pool to riffle ratio was likely high
        with complex and high quality pools providing good quality habitat.  Pool
        tailouts were made up of high quality spawning habitat.  The DFC Analysis
        and Matrix  of  Pathways and Indicators use reference conditions from
        similar undisturbed streams to quantify the optimum conditions, and these
        are  referenced  to today's measurements to determine  existing conditions
        (FEIS Chapter 3.3)
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66. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD DESIGN THIS PROJECT so THAT IT
    MEETS EXISTING WATER QUALITY AND HABITAT STANDARDS.

    A.  TO CORRECT CURRENT VIOLATIONS OF FOREST PLAN AND IDAHO TMDL (TOTAL
        MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD) GOALS FOR SEDIMENT AND TEMPERATURE

        The proposed  salvage harvest and road maintenance,  reconstruction, and
        construction design criteria and best management practices need to be designed
        and implemented to significantly improve existing aquatic conditions.  Existing
        aquatic conditions are in violation of Forest Plan standards for sediment and
        temperature and  must be significantly  improved in order to  comply with  the
        Forest Plan and  the  Idaho Department of Environmental  Quality TMDLs.
        (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.133.10400.100)

        RESPONSE:

        The FEIS  recognizes the below-objective conditions of  these watersheds.
        The aquatic trend analysis  documented in Appendix E suggests that an
        upward trend in aquatic condition is expected to be  achieved with  this
        project.
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    B.  The draft sediment TMDL for the South Fork Clearwater River requires a 25%
        decrease in sediment, most of which would need to take place in tributaries such
        as the Crooked River,  American River, and tributaries.   The Forest Service
        should consider whether the planned harvest and road construction in  these
        drainages  is warranted given the large portion of the  South  Fork Clearwater
        sediment budget  these  watersheds  will occupy.  (Preservation/Conservation
        Organization, Boise, ID - #15.28.10400.137)
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   RESPONSE:
   This project is predicted to result in a net decrease in sediment yield to the
   South  Fork  Clearwater  River  over  time  (refer  FEIS,  Chapter 3).   An
   implementation  plan for the South  Fork Clearwater River TMDLs is
   scheduled to  be completed in 2005.  No single project will be expected to
   achieve the entire TMDL sediment reduction goal.  However, this  project
   will contribute toward that goal.
C. TO AVOID THE NEED TO EXEMPT PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT FROM FOREST PLAN
   STANDARDS
   In order for the project to comply with the Forest Plan, amendments would have
   to be  included to exempt certain portions of the project from Forest Plan
   standards.  While this is true, we do not advocate for Forest Plan Amendments
   which lower the  standards for sediment,  so/7s, Equivalent Clearcut Areas, fish
   habitat, water quality, stream productivity, or other issues.  Instead we urge you
   to modify  the project in order  to comply with the existing  Forest  Plan.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.50.10400.160)

   RESPONSE:
   The proposed  project is in compliance with the Forest Plan and no amendments
   would be required.
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D. TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT SCHEDULE IS CONSISTENT WITH IDAHO TMDL
   TIMELINES
   We encourage the  USFS to evaluate whether the proposed timeline will be
   consistent with Idaho  Department of Environmental Quality's  (IDEQ's) draft
   Guidance for Forest  Practices   Discharging  Sediment Into  303(d)  Listed
   Waterbodies.     (Federal  Agency,   Elected  Official,    Seattle,   WA   -
   #24.17.10400.180)

   RESPONSE:
   Comment acknowledged.   We are familiar with  the draft guidance and believe
   this project is consistent with it.
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E. BY EXAMINING IMPACTS OF ROAD AND LAND USE CHANGES AT SUBWATERSHED
   LEVEL
   The  analysis  must  examine changes  in  subwatershed and riparian road
   densities, road/stream crossings,  ECAs,  and sediment yields above  baseline.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15. 133. 10400. 100).

   RESPONSE:
   Subwatershed road  densities and sediment yields  above  baseline  are
   disclosed by alternative in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Tables 3.7, 3.10, 3.14, and
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        3.17. Additionally, existing riparian road densities are shown in Tables 3.6
        and 3.13.  These figures are not expected to change much by alternative
        since all  temporary roads are being decommissioned  and few of the
        existing roads planned for decommissioning are located in riparian areas.
        Existing stream crossings are shown in Tables  3.21 and  3.22.   Although
        road/stream crossings are not enumerated by alternative,  miles of stream
        with improved access are shown in Tables 3.32 and 3.36.
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    F.  BY ANALYZING CUMULATIVE EFFECTS WITHIN BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENTS AND
        EVALUATIONS

        It has been well-established  that  site- specific Biological  Evaluations (BEs) or
        Biological Assessments (BAs) must be prepared for all actions  such as this.
        Further, the Forest Service Manual requires that BEs/BAs consider cumulative
        effects. The Forest Service Manual states that project BEs/BAs must contain "a
        discussion of cumulative effects resulting from the planned project in relationship
        to existing conditions and other related projects" [FSM 2672.42(4)].   "Existing
        conditions" obviously are the current conditions  of the resources as a result of
        past actions.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,  Moscow,   ID  -
        #22.66.10400.130)

        RESPONSE:

        A site-specific BE  has been  prepared for  this project and  is included with
        the  FEIS and ROD.  Non-federal activities are  included in the cumulative
        effects section to the BE.
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67. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE ASSUMPTIONS
    AND PARAMETERS USED TO PREDICT SEDIMENT YIELD AND CUMULATIVE EFFECTS ON
    WATER QUALITY.

    A.  The riparian buffers and watershed restoration  activities will have a beneficial
        effect on reducing sediment loads to the streams; however, there is a need for
        the  EIS to contain additional information  on the assumptions and parameters
        used to predict the sediment yield to streams from the project. (Federal Agency,
        Elected Official, Seattle, WA - #24.2.21100.234)

        RESPONSE:

        The section on model assumptions, limitations and tests, found in  Chapter
        3 of the DEIS, has been expanded  in Appendix E of the FEIS.
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    B.  We recommend that the document list any land management activities by private
        land owners in  the  South Fork of the  Clearwater River basin  that may be
        adversely contributing  to sediment and  shade  targets and therefore having
        cumulative effects  on water quality.  (Federal Agency, Elected Official, Seattle,
        WA-#24.7.21100.234)
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        RESPONSE:

        The  cumulative  effects  of activities  occurring on  private  lands  are
        accounted for in the FEIS, to the extent that information has been obtained
        from 2002 aerial photographs and through field knowledge of the area.
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    American  and Crooked River watersheds.   Figures E.4 and E.5 graphically
    show the  results for each  subwatershed  and  the  differences  between
    alternatives are more apparent.
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70. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD INCORPORATE THE DESCRIPTION OF
    THE WATERSHED IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ON PAGES D-2 THROUGH D-3 INTO THE
    BODYOFTHEFEIS.

    We  recommend that  the description  of the watershed improvement projects on
    pages D-2 through D-3 be incorporated into the body of the final EIS. It is important
    that readers understand the scope of the measures and process the USFS will use
    to select treatments that would be implemented on a site specific basis,  (Federal
    Agency, Elected Official, Seattle, WA - #24.5.21100.247)

    RESPONSE:
    It was the editor's feeling that this  table  was too extensive to incorporate into
    the main text of the FEIS. However, these tables are referenced in the text.
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71. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONSULT THE IDAHO WATER QUALITY
    STANDARDS.

    TO DETERMINE IF THIS PROJECT MEETS THOSE STANDARDS

    Temperature has  been identified as exceeding Idaho Water Quality Standards  at
    certain  times  of  the  year.   Increased sedimentation  could  alter the channel
    morphology, further increasing water temperatures in the streams.   This problem is
    further highlighted on page 14 of the DEIS, "Short-term increases in sediment yield
    from proposed activities might contribute to degraded substrate conditions and
    further reduce carrying capacity and quality of spawning habitat." This indicates that
    existing "poor" conditions are likely  to deteriorate and with the implementation of this
    project will lower even  further.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
    #15.26.34000.246)

    RESPONSE:
    Water temperature increases  are  not predicted to occur as a result  of this
    project.  Increases in sediment yield are not estimated to be of a magnitude
    that would result in changes in channel morphology. Draft guidance posted on
    the IDEQ website on  April 8, 2004,  indicates that short-term increases  in
    sediment yield may be  allowable as long as beneficial uses are not impaired. It
    will be up to IDEQ to determine  if the  impacts predicted to occur with this
    project are of a magnitude that would impair beneficial uses.
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72. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD WORK WITH THE BLM AND THE NEZ
    PERCE TRIBE TO DESIGN A CUMULATIVE WATER QUALITY IMPACT MONITORING PLAN
    FOR THE SOUTH FORK CLEARWATER RIVER.

    We highly recommend the Forest Service and BLM work with the Nez Perce Tribe to
    design  a  cumulative water quality  impact-monitoring plan for the  South Fork
    Clearwater River.  With so much activity planned over a relatively short time period in
    drainages tributary to the South Fork,  a  credible  monitoring plan that can satisfy
    public  concerns is  necessary.  (Timber/Wood Products Industry,  Kamiah, ID -
    #5.15.30100.240)
    Also, because of  the variety of fuel reduction projects that are approved or being
    planned in the Elk City area, we suggest that your Forest work cooperatively with the
    BLM in developing  an integrated monitoring plan for the affected streams in the
    upper South Fork  Clearwater River to assure that water quality objectives are being
    met. (Place Based Group, Lewiston, ID - #3.7.30100.246)

    RESPONSE:
    Response to both  comments:  The Nez Perce National Forest is committed to
    working with the Nez Perce Tribe, state and federal agencies  and the South
    Fork Clearwater Watershed Advisory Group to develop a monitoring plan for
    the South Fork Clearwater River.
                                
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74. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD DETAIL REASONS FOR THE SEVEN YEAR LAG BETWEEN
    COMPLETION OF WATERSHED RESTORATION ACTIVITIES AND SEDIMENT REDUCTION
    BENEFITS.

    Although we realize that watershed restoration activities cannot be completed at the
    same time as timber harvest, EPA suggests that the final EIS describe in more detail
    the reasons for the seven year period from the time of project completion to achieve
    sediment reduction benefits.   (Federal Agency, Elected Official,  Seattle, WA  -
    #24.16.12300.234)

    RESPONSE:

    The "seven-year lag" presumably refers to the years 2005 and 2012 shown in
    Tables 3.35, 3.36, 3.43, and 3.44. These are key points in the sediment yield
    modeling process only.  They  are not meant to imply when improvement
    projects might be  implemented or effective.  The year 2005 is the assumed
    peak year of sediment yield and 2012 is as far as the modeling was carried into
    the future. The graphs in Figures E.4 and E.5 display the model results of each
    year, individually.  Some improvement projects are immediately effective upon
    implementation,  while the benefits of others accrue over time.
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75. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD NOT HARVEST TIMBER.

    BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING AFFECTS WATER QUALITY

    The cumulative impact of the timber sales in the Whiskey South, Meadow Face,
    Red Pines, Blacktail Butte, and Eastside  Township and this one should be
    considered.  Logging has not shown to make the watershed quality any better.
    It makes it worse, by creating  areas that are  easily erodible from removed
    vegetation.  (Individual, CoeurDAIene, ID-#11.2.34000.247)

    RESPONSE:

    Percent EGA and percent sediment yield over base were included in the South Fork
    Clearwater River cumulative effects analysis for Whiskey South, Meadow Face, Red
    Pines, and Eastside Township projects.  These figures were not yet available for the
    Blacktail project. The  effects of logging on watershed resources and water quality
    are disclosed in Chapter 3 of the FEIS.

76. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD ANALYZE IMPACTS THE PROJECT WILL
    CREATE ON THE  BENNETT PROPERTY AS WELL AS TO OTHER PRIVATE LAND
    HOLDINGS.

    The Forest Service needs to analyze the impacts of clear cutting, road construction,
    mining, construction, travel and management on Bennett property as well as other
    private lands in the watershed. (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID -
    #15.144.30300.650)
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    RESPONSE:

    A site-specific BE has been prepared for this project and is included with the
    FEIS and ROD.  Non-federal activities are included in the cumulative effects
    section to the BE.
    The cumulative effects of activities occurring on private lands are accounted for in
    the  FEIS, to  the  extent that'  information has been  obtained  from  2002 aerial
    photographs and through field knowledge of the  area.
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77. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE ALL
    RESOURCE ATTRIBUTES, INCLUDING WATER QUALITY AND FISH HABITAT.

    BECAUSE THE FOREST HAS LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES TO TRIBAL TREATIES AND THE
    PUBLIC:
    The Forest Service, as a publicly supported entity has legal commitments to the Nez
    Perce Tribal treaty rights and to  the public to maintain and improve water quality, fish
    habitat,  and  an  intact forest for all to  enjoy.   (Individual,  Coeur D Alene, ID  -
    #11.5.10000.002)

    RESPONSE:
    The Nez Perce National Forest  Land and Resource Management Plan  (USDA
    FS,  1987a) recognizes this commitment to the  Nez Perce Tribe in Forestwide
    Management Direction  (page 11-18).  Furthermore, the Nez Perce  NF has
    pursued an active and ongoing dialogue with the Nez Perce Tribe at key points
    during the development of this proposed project. The Tribe's advice and input
    have been sought at all phases  and  are continually being incorporated into this
    document.  Also, refer to the individual responses to the Nez  Perce  Tribe's
    comments section in this document.
    The commitment to the public to maintain and  improve water quality and fish
    habitat is detailed in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.3.
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78. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD ADDRESS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WATER QUALITY
    AND FISH HABITAT.
    The DEIS fails to draw adequate attention to the obvious relationship between water
    quality and fish habitat.  The linkages between these issues need to be fully explored
    in   the   FEIS.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID   -
    #15.34.21100.381)

    RESPONSE:
    The  FEIS, Chapter  3,  Section 3.3  Analysis  Methods, clearly  shows and
    recognizes the  important linkage  between  fish  and water quality.   Both
    resource areas (Fisheries and  Watershed) document existing conditions and
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    meet the Riparian  Management Objectives (RMOs) as defined in the Forest
    Plan and PACFISH.
82. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD ADDRESS OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE THE RISK OF
    ADVERSE EFFECTS TO BULL TROUT.

    The Department recommends  that the Forest seek opportunities in the FEIS to
    further reduce the risk of adverse effects to bull trout by either decreasing the
    amount of road  construction and harvest acres in  the most critical areas,  or by
    expanding the watershed improvements closer to what is shown in Alternative E, or a
    combination of both.  We believe that taking proactive steps to improve conditions in
    affected watersheds  will reduce the risks to bull  trout conservation and recovery
    associated with multiple concurrent fuels treatment projects within the same sub-
    basin.  (Federal Agency Official, Portland, OR - #35.4.23400.380)

    RESPONSE:

    Comment  acknowledged.  The selected alternative  (Alternative  D, modified)
    reflects an increased emphasis on watershed restoration.
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83. THE NEZ PERCE  NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONSIDER CUMULATIVE EFFECTS  ON
    THE BULL TROUT IN UPPER SOUTH FORK CLEARWATER DRAINAGE DUE TO FOREST
    SERVICE AND BLM FUEL TREATMENT PROJECTS.

    Bull trout conservation and recovery is of particular concern in the Upper South Fork
    Clearwater drainage where many fuels treatment projects similar to the Project are
    currently proposed, including the Bureau of Land Management's Whiskey South and
    Eastside Projects and the Forest's Red Pine Project.  Concurrent implementation of
    these fuels treatment projects and  similar activities  on private lands have a high
    potential for cumulative and additive effects to all  aquatic resources, including bull
    trout. (Federal Agency Official, Portland, OR - #35.3.30300.380)

    RESPONSE:
    The FEIS  Record of Decision (ROD) lists the projects you mention.  These
    activities are considered in the  Cumulative Effects, Section 3.2 and 3.3.  The
    ROD also contains the final Biological Assessment  in which it is recognized
    that there  will be a short period  of increased sedimentation associated with
    vegetation     treatments,     road     construction/reconstruction,     road
    decommissioning, culvert replacement, and in channel improvements  (FEIS,
    Section 3.3, Environmental Consequences). This same section also highlights
    that following this short term pulse of sediment will be a long term improvement
    in fish  habitat carrying capacity.  This long term improvement will result from
    culvert  replacement   leading  to   increased    stream   access,   road
    decommissioning, riparian planting leading to increased stream shade, and up
    to 20 miles of in channel stream improvements. These actions will in turn lead
    improved conditions for bull trout and other TES fish species.
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 SECTION 5 - FIRE AND FUELS

84. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONDUCT FUEL REDUCTION.

    A.  FOR WATER QUALITY

        Fuel reduction is essential to protect long-term water quality from the severe
        impact of  catastrophic  wildfire.    Without  adequate  streamside  vegetation,
        sediment   and  high  water  temperatures  will   damage  fish  populations.
        (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.2.33400.246)

        RESPONSE:

        Fuel reduction would help to lessen the potential fire effects to riparian areas
        located near the proposed treatment  units, by lowering the possibility  of a
        severe fire  burning into the riparian areas. Additionally, minimal vegetative
        treatment  activity would  occur within the  riparian  areas  thus  conserving
        current vegetation  to offer  streamside shading  and  sediment trapping.
        Furthermore, as stated in the FEIS, Section  1.4,  PACFISH  RHCA buffers
        would  be in place for the duration of the project.
                                    08O8O8
    B.  WITH MANUAL REMOVAL OF FINE FUELS

        Any and all concern about fuels should focus on the manual removal of fine fuels
        (dead grass, deal limbs, twigs on the ground, cones and needles, and Christmas
        tree sized live trees: within 200 feet of a house or bam.  (Individual, Grangeville,
        ID-#30.8.33400.271)

        RESPONSE:
        While  it is  acknowledged that an efficient and effective method to protect
        structures  is by conducting work within the home ignitability zone, structure
        protection  is not the primary purpose and objective of this project (refer to
        FEIS,  Chapter 1,  Section 1.3). Additionally, the Crooked  River Defensible
        Space project, which was scoped September 13, 2004, proposes to complete
        vegetative management within 200 feet of private structures adjacent to lands
        managed by the Forest Service.
                                    0808O8
    C.  FOR BIG GAME SUMMER HABITAT

        Both timber harvest and  controlled burns will significantly increase big game
        summer habitat, benefiting the stressed elk population of the Clearwater Basin.
        (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.4.23100.160)

        RESPONSE:

        Comment   acknowledged.   Harvest  and  burning  will help  create  and
        rejuvenate  nutritious forage plants as discussed  in  the FEIS, Chapter 3,
        Section 3.11.
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    events that support gradual shifts in species dominance or migration to newly
    suitable habitats. Use of fire and judicious harvest may help in this regard.
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86. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD DESIGN A LONG-TERM VISION FOR THE
    FUEL REDUCTION PROJECT AREA.

    The DE/S a/so discussed Fuel Reduction Effectiveness and states as one of its
    purposes  to " Reduce  the risk of large-scale crown fire by creating  vegetative
    patterns through  harvest."  Much  of the project  area has already been
    fragmented through past  logging,  road construction, thinning, natural and
    human burns,  dredging and other disturbances. What is the long-term vision for
    the project area? According to the aerial photo provided for the August 8, 2003
    field  trip to the project area,  much of the project area  has already been
    subjected to "active management."  We are curious what the end result would
    look like, and  whether  or not the Forest Service foresees additional projects in
    the   near   future    to    continue   to   "break   up    fuel   continuity."
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.21.33400.279)
    RESPONSE:

    The long-term vision for the project area  is being addressed  in multiple planning
    efforts.   All will  require  integration  of  complex  terrestrial,  aquatic,  and  social
    concerns, and integration with  BLM activities.   In American  and Crooked River,
    concerns include high aquatic potential, past management impacts, mixed and stand
    replacing  fire  regimes, intermingled homes and  communities, and  nearness to
    wilderness and roadless areas.

    At   the   state   and   national   scales,   the    Idaho   Cohesive  Strategy
    (http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/id fire assessment/descriptions.html)    and    LANDFIRE
    (http://www.landfire.gov/) are projects designed to develop consistent and accurate
    data of vegetation  conditions, fire fuels, risks, and ecosystem status  at the national,
    regional, and  local scales for  implementation of the National Fire Plan.  These
    projects could be  used to prioritize areas  for fuel treatments,  which  might target
    areas within these watersheds.  However, neither project  provides guidance on
    landscape  design  or how to  reconcile conflicting terrestrial,  aquatic, and  social
    values.

    In the short term, and at the forest scale, a vegetation management strategy is being
    developed that considers, by subwatershed, issues of aquatic values and sensitivity,
    and  vegetation and fire risk in  comparison to natural disturbance dynamics.   The
    social context  and the  suite of appropriate management tools are also  considered.
    This is in progress.

    In the longer term, forest plan revision may provide additional  guidance that helps
    establish objectives for watershed condition and  landscapes considering terrestrial,
    aquatic, and social factors.
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87. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD SECURE FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE
    OF FUEL TREATMENT AREAS.

    It  would be useful for the final EIS to describe the funding source for long term
    maintenance of these areas.   Existing information strongly suggests that fuels
    treatment areas that are not properly maintained over the long-term can increase the
    risk  of fire as slopes are opened up to sunlight and undergrowth is  stimulated.
    (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA-#24.25.14120.273)

    RESPONSE:
    The  Nez Perce National Forest will continue to seek funding for the maintenance of
    fuel treatment areas. Current sources include appropriated funds, trust funds, monies
    from the North Central RAC (Resource Advisory Committee) and The Rocky
    Mountain Elk Foundation. All of these funds fluctuate from year to year and must be
    competed for with other Forests and Regions.
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88. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD REDUCE THE RISK OF WILDFIRES.

    A. TO PROTECT FOREST HEALTH. WATER QUALITY. HUMAN LIFE. AND PRIVATE
       PROPERTY
       By reducing the risk of wildfire, you are protecting forest health and water
       quality as well as human life and private property. (Individual, Lewiston, ID -
       #7.3.33000.002)

       RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
                                    O808C8
    B. WITH THE CONNECTION OF CLEARCUTS
       In terms of hazardous fuels reduction and structural protection, this project,
       as designed, is both inefficient and ineffective.  Much of the  surrounding
       area has been heavily logged and, in the interest of community protection,
        "connecting the clear cuts" could be more effective than laying out units on
       the   basis   of  pine  beetle  mortality,   and/or  economic  factors.
       (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID - #15.106.33000.279)

       RESPONSE:
       The project would create breaks in the continuity of fuel arrangement within the
       project area.  These breaks would help to achieve two purposes; the first would
       be to modify the fire behavior to produce a less intense fire. Also by lowering the
       fire intensity these breaks will slow and modify the fire spread (Finney 2001) and
       give suppression resources a safe area to initiate suppression responses.  The
       proposed treatment units would tie in  with the past harvesting  within the area to
       create the spatial patterns referred to by Finney  for landscape treatment to
       modify the fire behavior.o* o* o*
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C. To PROTECT WILDLAND-URBAN INTERFACE AREAS

   1.  Creation and maintenance of an extensive fuels treatment network has
       the potential to adversely affect water quality and wildlife  habitat.  We
       agree with the USFS goal of concentrating fuels  treatment areas near
       urban interface areas.  We also recommend attempting to locate them in
       areas where impacts  to  water quality  and sensitive habitats  will be
       minimized and where the vegetation is  adapted to frequent fire return
       intervals.  (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24.24.33400.240)

       RESPONSE:

       Fuels treatments can affect wildlife species and  their habitats (See FEIS,
       Chapter 3, Section 3.11).  Forest Plan standards as well as the mitigation
       and design factors applied to this project help reduce or eliminate most
       risks (Refer to Chapter 2). Some of these include protection of old growth
       and replacement stands, protection  of  buffers  around goshawk  nests,
       incorporation of road decommissioning, reporting newly discovered dens
       and nests of federally listed species and  rare species, and protecting key
       habitat components  all help eliminate  adverse impacts.   (See  FEIS,
       Chapter 2, Table 2.3)
                                 080*08

   2.  While clear [purpose and objectives], you may have expanded on the
      need to protect the Elk City community.  This project is but a part of the
      master plan to treat rapidly deteriorating forests  that provide a major
       threat to the Elk City community by decreasing dangerous, unnatural
      fuel  levels.     (Timber/Wood  Products  Industry,   Kamiah,   ID  -
      #5.1.33000.271)

       The project will also help fireproof Elk  City and provide some much-
      needed   forest   product  resources   to   the   local   economy.
       (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#1.2.33470.810)
      If there is to be any type of project,  it needs to be located within the
      wildland urban interface in order to  provide protection from wildfires.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID-#15.8.23000.271)

      RESPONSE:

      While conducting fuels treatments only near the wildland-urban interface
      areas would help to protect these areas, it would not reduce fuel loadings
      in the outlying areas  away from the WUI.  By not treating those outlying
      areas, the treatments would not  fully meet the purpose  of the project
      (FEIS, Chapter 1).
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89. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD RELY ON BEST AVAILABLE SCIENCE TO
    REDUCE RISK, INTENSITY, AND SEVERITY OF FIRES.

    A.  BY CONSIDERING THE WlLDLAND FlRE USE PROGRAM PRIOR TO IMPLEMENTING
        FUELS REDUCTION OUTSIDE Will AREAS

        Once the WUI areas on the Nez Pence National Forest have been treated, it may
        be appropriate to consider fuels  reduction efforts extending into  the forest  in
        order to restore certain and selected fire-adapted ecosystems.  However, such
        future projects must be based on the "best  available science" that relates  to
        reducing the intensity and severity of wildland fire. Further, the Wildland Fire Use
        program may be  a cost-efficient and effective method to reduce fuel loads,
        restore fire-adapted ecosystems and to create heterogeneous  landscapes that
        would be less prone to large-scale  fire events.  We are aware  that WFU  is
        outside the scope of this project, but feel that it is pertinent to  consider the
        potential for WFU  in  certain  areas,  in  lieu of currently proposed logging.
        (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -#15.92. 13000.330)

        RESPONSE:
        While a Wildland Fire Use (WFU) program  may be a cost-effective method to
        reduce fuel loads and restore fire adapted ecosystems, the Forest  Plan  and
        Fire Management  Plan  currently do not allow  for WFU within any portion of
        the  project area.  Without the authority for WFU all fire ignitions within the
        project area require a suppression response.
        The analyses  conducted  as  part  of the FEIS  are based  on  thorough
        application of the best scientific information currently available to the project
        Interdisciplinary Team.   The  information  considered consists of  scientific
        literature, research findings, models and other information that apply to local
        conditions within the project area or similar conditions in other nearby areas
        that are  relevant and can be extrapolated to the area affected by the project.
        Use of the best science in the evaluation of this project includes consideration
        of opposing viewpoints and disclosure of model and data limitations.  Further,
        the Forest's consideration and  use of science has been coordinated with  and
        reviewed by other technical experts.  Any comments  received  by those
        experts have been considered and, as appropriate, included in the FEIS.
     B.  BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT FUELS REDUCTION IS AN UNPROVEN SCIENCE AND ROADS
        CAN EXACERBATE RUNOFF AND SEDIMENTATION

        The DEIS acknowledges that the existing road network has negatively impacted
        the watershed and that a  fire would multiply these effects: "If the heavy fuel
        accumulations were to burn under extreme conditions, the large number of roads
        in  the  analysis  area  would tend to exacerbate  an  increase  in  run-off and
        associated  sedimentation  from  the  burned area during post-fire precipitation
        events" (P.  3). Instead of taking  a logical approach of reducing the road system,
        the Forest  Service plans on removing the fuels using more  roads, relying on
        unproven   science  to  justify  these  actions.     (Preservation/Conservation
        Organization, Boise, ID -#15.57.13000.410)
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   RESPONSE:
   No new, permanent road construction will occur with  this project,  and all
   temporary  roads  constructed  to  facilitate  treatment activities  will  be
   decommissioned within a three-year period following their construction. Refer
   to FEIS, Chapter 2, Tables 2.1 and 2.2. In addition, a minimum of 19.7 miles
   of existing road will be decommissioned with this project (refer to Appendix D
   in the FEIS).  Additional miles of existing road may be decommissioned at the
   discretion of the deciding official as stated  in the ROD..
                                 (3303(33

C. BY CONSIDERING HOME IGNITABILITY AND EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THAT FUEL
   REDUCTIONS NEED ONLY OCCUR WITHIN TENS OF METERS FROM STRUCTURES

   The FS (Cohen, 1999) reviewed current scientific evidence and policy directives
   on the issue of fire in the wildland/urban  interface  and recommended an
   alternative  focus  on home  ignitability  rather than  extensive  wildland fuel
   management:

   The congruence of research findings from different analytical methods suggests
   that home ignitability is the principal cause of home losses  during wildland fires.
   Home ignitability also dictates that effective mitigating actions focus on the home
   and its  immediate  surroundings  rather  than on extensive  wildland  fuel
   management.
   [Research shows] that effective fuel modification for reducing potential Will fire
   losses need only occur within a few tens of meters from a home, not hundreds of
   meters or more from a home.  This research indicates that home losses can be
   effectively reduced  by  focusing  mitigation  efforts  on  the  structure  and its
   immediate surroundings.   Those  characteristics of a structure's materials and
   design and the surrounding flammables that determine the potential for  a home
   to ignite during wildland fires (or any fires outside the home) will, hereafter, be
   referred to as home ignitability.

   The evidence suggests that wildland fuel reduction for reducing home losses
   may be inefficient and ineffective.  Inefficient because wildland fuel reduction for
   several hundred meters or more  around  homes is greater than necessary for
   reducing ignitions from flames Ineffective because it does not sufficiently reduce
   firebrand ignitions (Cohen, 1999)
   That research also recognizes  "the imperative to separate the problem of the
   Midland fire threat to homes from the problem of ecosystem sustainability due to
   changes  in   wildland fuels"  (Id).   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
   Moscow,  ID-#22.3.13100.270)

   RESPONSE:

   While it is acknowledged that  an efficient and  effective method  to  protect
   structures is  by conducting work within the home ignitability zone, structure
   protection is  not the  primary purpose and objective  of this project (refer to
   FEIS, Chapter 1,  Section 1.3).  Additionally, the Crooked  River Defensible
   Space project, which  was scoped September 13, 2004, proposes to complete
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   vegetative management within 200 feet of private structures adjacent to lands
   managed by the Forest Service.
D. BY APPLYING RESEARCH BY JACK COHEN REGARDING RISK OF STRUCTURAL FIRE
   If you are trying to protect human structures and improvement, why is the DEIS
   silent about the recent research finding by Forest Service fire physicist Jack
   Cohen?  Applying the Cohen finding to human structures, so when  a fire does
   get started,  the risk of the  structure  burning is  greatly reduced.   (Individual,
   Grangeville, ID - #30.5. 131 10.400)

   RESPONSE:
   Comment acknowledge.  Refer to response to comment 89(C), above.
                                 03O3OS

E. BY EVALUATING THE UTILITY OF FIRE SCARS TO ESTABLISH FIRE REGIMES IN A
   VARIETY OF FOREST TYPES
   Baker and Ehle paper ca//s into question the use of fire scars in establishing
   mean fire intervals and suggests that previous reports based upon lire scars may
   be biased. Most research, including that in the  supporting documents for the
   South Fork Clearwater, is based upon fire scars.
   Regardless of  whether Baker and Ehle are  right,  those using fire scars to
   establish fire regimes are right, none are right,  or all have validity,  the fact
   remains these scientists appear to have  somewhat different view of ponderosa
   pine systems, or at least what we think we  know  about them.   The same
   questions about fire scars need to be asked about other forest types  as well.
   This  should  have  been  fully  recognized  and  evaluated  in   the DEIS.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Moscow, ID -#22.49. 131 10.277)

   RESPONSE:
   The focus of the paper by Baker and Ehle was on nearly pure ponderosa
   forest, which make up a small portion of the project area. Ponderosa pine
   systems  are of very limited  extent in the project area.  The fire regimes
   shown in Maps 9a and  9b  of the FEIS  are derived using the  potential
   vegetation   data  derived   from  the   Idaho  Cohesive   Strategy
   (http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/id_fire_assessment/id_haz_n'sk_review.html).  They show areas of
   frequent  non-lethal fire limited  to small  warm steep slopes,  mostly in
   Crooked River.
   Fire  scar studies  must be  combined with landscape scale age-class
   studies to understand fire regimes and  fire patterns in areas of mixed and
   lethal fire such as the project area. This has been done in the course of
   preparation of the South Fork, Selway,  and Slate Creek assessments
   (USDA FS, 1997a, 1998, 2001), in which thousands of timber stand exam
   plots were analyzed for evidence of non-lethal, mixed severity, or lethal
   fire.  We summarized these data by Vegetation Response Unit and the
   inferred fire regimes are presented in those assessments by VRU.  Fire
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   ecology compilations such as Kapler-Smith and Fischer (1997) were also
   used to validate  these interpretations, and  traditional fire  scar studies
   were used in areas of frequent low severity fire.
   Baker and Ehle state in their paper that mean fire intervals based on fire
   scar data may have uncertainties and biases and actually lead to longer
   fire intervals than previously thought.  They also state that fires are also
   unrecorded upon  trees (i.e., no fire scar), "Trees are often charred by a
   surface fire, but fires do not always leave scars in particular areas or even
   a whole stand, so fires may be unrecorded in fire scars", "It is uncertain
   for example, whether a tree without a scar did or did not burn in a fire that
   scarred nearby trees", and "The abundance of unrecorded fires is largely
   unknown."    This lack  of an  evident  fire scar  may actually  lead
   investigators to infer longer fire intervals than actually occurred.
   Additionally,  while   Baker  and  Ehle  suggest  that there  may  be
   uncertainties in the use of fire scars to determine fire intervals, they do
   not offer any suggestions to reduce or mitigate these biases other than
   bracketing fire intervals, which is what we have done in using fire regimes
   and  an associated range of fire intervals  (e.g.,. 75 to150 years "for
   infrequent fire regimes) for this project.
                                 (3SOSOS

F.  BY CONSIDERING EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THAT STAND-REPLACEMENT FIRE IS
   NORMAL

   Baker and Ehle paper calls into question the use of fire scars in establishing
   mean fire intervals and suggests that previous reports based upon lire scars may
   be biased.   Most research, including that in the supporting documents  for the
   South Fork Clearwater, is based upon fire scars.
   Regardless  of whether Baker  and Ehle are right,  those  using fire scars to
   establish fire regimes  are right, none are right, or all have  validity, the fact
   remains these scientists appear to have somewhat different view of ponderosa
   pine systems, or at least what we think we know about them.   The same
   questions about fire scars need to be asked about other forest types as well.
   This  should  have  been  fully  recognized  and  evaluated  in  the  DEIS.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.49.13110.277)
   The  DEIS indicates that large stand-replacing fires are not desired.   Yet, they
   were in the range of variability.
   The  attempts at breaking up the landscape  to prevent or reduce large, stand-
   replacing fires may be  useless.  If not, there is no real need to create anymore
   breaks in the landscape as any aerial photograph or satellite imagery will attest
   much has already occurred in those two drainages (see also DEIS maps 14 a
   and b).

   One of the major assumptions in the DES is that the no action alternative will
   increase the probability of stand-replacing fires.  Yet, that assumption is not
   quantified.   What will it do, increase it by 1%,  50% or 90%?  Without some
   quantification, so-called stand-replacing fife prevention under the various action
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   alternatives is meaningless.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,
   ID -#22.52.13110.277)

   RESPONSE:

   Stand replacing fire, and the pulse watershed responses that ensue, are
   intrinsic to historic and projected fire activity in the American and Crooked
   River watersheds.  The FEIS Chapter 1 - Conditions Contributing to the
   Purpose and Need for Action, describes vegetation changes associated
   with past fire suppression, succession, and mountain pine beetle activity.
   These are believed to contribute  to an enhanced potential for transition
   from a ground fire to a crown fire,  which could contribute to increased fire
   size  or  severity  under  moderate  burning conditions, and  increased
   difficulty of  suppression.  Current developing fuel conditions may have
   occurred historically in these fire regimes, but the with the proximity to Elk
   City and  other residences  and developments,  large fires may not  be
   socially acceptable due to possible loss of life, property and/or resources.
   Additionally, with no  Wildland  Fire Use plan for the project  area, the
   Forest Plan requires that suppression actions take place to control all new
   fire starts within  the project area.   This sets a management context
   under which some  harvest  and  fuel reduction could be designed to
   increase  fire  suppression  effectiveness  under   moderate  burning
   conditions (Finney, 2001). A robust program of watershed improvements
   (see Appendix D) should  help improve resiliency to fire when  one does
   occur.
   Quantifying  the  probability  of a stand  replacing  fire  occurrence  is
   impossible without specifying climate, ignition, burning weather and time
   frame.  Without those parameters, it can be assumed that the probability
   of a  stand  replacing fire occurring under normal conditions  would  be
   100%.  The estimate that the  no-action alternative would  increase the
   probability of stand-replacing fire  is based on the premise that strategic
   placement of  fuel reduction areas  in relation to existing areas of low
   potential  for fire spread or low resistance to  control  can  help fire
   suppression be more effective, which could prevent a small fire from
   becoming large, if burning conditions are not severe (Finney, 2001). This
   is described in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.4.
G. BY APPLYING LANDSCAPE-SCALE FIRE MODELING TO DETERMINE LOCATIONS OF
   TIMBER HARVEST PRESCRIPTIONS

   In order to be more efficient and effective,  the NPNF should apply landscape
   scale fire modeling, i.e.  using FARSITE,  to determine what the effects  of the
   proposed treatments would be.  Such an  analysis  could also help to determine
   more effective location of logging and silvicultural prescriptions in the interest of
   reducing rates of fire spread, intensity and severity. (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID -#15.1 07.1 3000.270)
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   RESPONSE:

   The Nez Perce NF does not currently have good enough data for this
   type of modeling to be effective over the whole forest.
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H. BY CONSIDERING EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION AND FUEL LOADS
   ARE NOT WELL CORRELATED WITH SEVERE FIRES

   Lodgepole pine (in fire groups three and four, see Smith and Fischer 1997) are in
   stand-replacing fire regimes (Cooper et al. 1991, Barrett 1982 and Green 1994 in
   Smith and Fischer 1997). Research from lodgepole pine in Yellowstone found
   stand-replacing or severe fires are a function of weather, not fuel load (Turner et
   al. 1994).  This contradicts an important assumption in the DEIS.

   The DEIS presents a version of history that is speculative, at best, given the
   information—the science is not definitive on historical conditions, though  the DES
   pretends it is in certain  instances.  The belief that small, cool fires shaped the
   landscape of the South Fork is not consistent with the data, especially the events
   on the early 1900s.  The belief that fire suppression everywhere had led to hotter
   fires currently is not consistent with the burn intensity and severity of recent fires
   (see for example, the Poet and Slims fire BAER report). Even if it were true fires
   are burning  hotter now,  there is considerable evidence it is because of climate
   change, not fuel amounts. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID
   -#22.55.13110.277)

   RESPONSE:

   Climate and fuels are closely related when discussing them in the context of fire
   behavior.  Climate can  drive the fuels in availability for combustion,  resulting
   flame length and heat output, and future fuel loadings.

   The cumulative effects   of climate change,  fire  suppression,  and short-term
   climatic variability can  interact to  result  in  altered fire regimes, over  which
   management may have  little control. Variations in climate are strongly correlated
   over a  wide region,  so that historically  severe  fire  years tended  to  occur
   synchronously over large areas, coinciding with regional drought periods (Barrett
   et al., 1997). Drought effects were strongly influenced by more variable factors
   including large dry-lightning storms that produced mass ignitions and occurrence
   of strong winds during  fire events.  If we  experience a trend toward  warmer,
   wetter conditions, as several climate models suggest,  but with the increased
   precipitation occurring in primarily in the winter, there would be more severe
   summer moisture deficits. If prolonged seasons of moisture deficits occur over a
   wider area, larger areas could be prone to lethal fire, at least until species and
   stand structure equilibrate to  more frequent fire, assuming both  frequency and
   intensity of drought increase.  Changes in  wind, insects, and disease  are also
   likely,  probably  in the direction  of increased  drought  stress  and  more
   susceptibility to pathogens, which result in increased fuel loadings.

   Healthy, vigorous stands of lodgepole pine generally have a high crown height
   with little surface fuels  and are typically classified as a fuel model 8.  These
   stands do  require extreme  weather conditions to  create fire  intensities  hot
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   enough to transition from a surface fire to a crown fire.  Historically, these stands
   would  have  had fires  occurring during both  extreme and normal  weather
   conditions. During the normal weather conditions fires would have burned with
   low enough intensity to prevent transition from surface to crown fire, these low
   intensity fires would have reduced the surface fuel loading within the stands.
   During the extreme weather conditions those surface fires  would have enough
   intensity to transition to crown fires even with low fuel loadings due to the fact
   that fuels were dryer and produced more energy during combustion.

   With the mountain pine beetle epidemic occurring  in the project area, and  no
   natural mechanism  for removal of fuel accumulations due to fire suppression
   requirements in the project area, these are no longer healthy stands with little
   surface fuels, but rather are stands that already have high fuel loadings  or will
   have high fuel loadings as dead  trees start to fall over, and are or soon will
   become classified as being fuel model  10 or 13. Because of these higher fuel
   loadings, a fire burning in these stands will burn with a greater  intensity under
   less than extreme weather conditions due to the amount of energy created when
   more fuel is consumed  during combustion.  These higher intensities result in
   higher flame lengths and heat produced which will allow for a surface fire to more
   easily transition to a crown  fire under more normal  weather conditions.  Please
   refer to the fuel model discussion in the Chapter 3, Section 3.4 of the FEIS for
   further discussion of the fuel models within the project area.
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I.  BY CONSIDERING EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION IS NOT
   CORRELATED WITH SEVERE FIRES IN OLD GROWTH AREAS
   The DEIS is based on the premise that fire threatens old growth because of fire
   suppression.  However,  most of the project area's old growth consists of areas
   with very long and lethal fire intervals.  Furthermore,  the 80 year figure for fire
   suppression is longer than the fire data indicate.  When looking at historical data,
   it  becomes clear that prior  to 1950,  fire  suppression  seems  to  have been.
   ineffective   when   looking   at   the   acres  of  national  forests  burned.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.73.13110.365)

   RESPONSE:
   The old growth analysis has been revised. Please see FEIS Section 3.11.4 Old
   Growth Habitat Analysis
   The discussion in Chapter 3, Section  3.11  of the FEIS only states that the
   current pine beetle infestations  within the  project area directly threatens
   lodgepole pine stands and  raises the risk of future fire induced old growth
   losses.  This is due to patches of old growth becoming more fragmented and
   surrounded by large areas of dying lodgepole.
   It  is generally accepted  that fire suppression became effective throughout the
   area during the  1930s with the advent of the Civilian Conservation Corp  as
   large numbers of men went to work in the woods, and the advent of the 10:00
   A.M. policy which stipulated control of wildland fires  by 10:00 A.M. the following
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        day after a fire was  reported.   These tools gave fire managers the  needed
        number of resources to effectively suppression fires.
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90. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD RETURN FIRE TO THE ECOSYSTEM.

    A.  TO ALLOW A NATURAL FIRE CYCLE

        Clearly, good professional forest management in fire-prone forests would
        concentrate on: in the backcountry, let fire play its natural,  beneficial role.
        (Individual, Grangeville, ID-#30.7.33100.600)

        I'll say it again, the real question that needs an answer is why would anyone
        want to reduce backcountry fires?  How does that logic flow  with all the
        hoop-la the Forest Service has been giving the importance of returning fire
        to the ecosystem? Without providing you a basic course in forest ecology,  I
        will remind you that the creatures that live in the forest (both flora and fauna)
        depend on the benefit from wildfires occurring periodically.  You are land
        managers with a mission of protecting and conserving the national forests
        for 280 million people.  How could you even contemplate interrupting this
        magnificent   natural   fire  cycle?     (Individual,   Grangeville,   ID   -
        #30.2.33000.201)
        Fire is natural, and can better care for an area than loggers ever could.  It
        occurs to me this is about lobbying loggers making money, not about what is
        best for the forest. (Individual, Coeur D Alene, ID - #11.3.33100.822)

        RESPONSE:

        The Forest Plan and/or Fire Management Plan  currently do not allow for
        Wildland Fire  Use (WFU) within any portion of the project area.  Without the
        authority  for  WFU,  all fire  ignitions  within the  project  area require  a
        suppression response.

        We acknowledge the integral role of natural fire  in terrestrial and aquatic
        ecological processes.   The combination  of  past  fire suppression, aquatic
        habitat degradation, depressed fish  populations, and homes and communities
        intermingled  in  the  American  and  Crooked river watersheds  create an
        environment where we  cannot  now implement a policy of  natural fire use.
        The current Forest Plan does not allow wildland fire use within any portion  of
        the project area. The nearest  areas of permitted wildland  fire use are the
        Gospel Hump Wilderness and the  East Meadow  Creek  roadless area.
        Additional roadless areas  closer to the project area could be proposed for
        wildland fire use planning in the Forest Plan revision process. These include
        West Meadow Creek and adjacent unroaded areas within the American River
        watershed, and Dixie Summit-Nut  Hill and adjacent unroaded  areas within
        Crooked River watershed.
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    B. TO MAINTAIN WATERSHED INTEGRITY
       Research shows the importance of fire in maintaining watersheds.  It shows
       that logging damages  the watersheds while fire is  crucial in maintaining
       watershed integrity.  Logging also dries out the soil, leaves  slash on the
       ground, and can lead to even hotter fires.  Simply put, logging makes
       matters far worse.  (Individual, Delmar, NY - #28.2.33100.360)
       Natural fire in this watershed would actually help maintain the watershed by
       controlling  bug  and   ground  debris.     (Individual,  Moscow,  ID  -
       #23.2.33110.002)

       RESPONSE:
       We acknowledge  the  integral  role  of natural fire  in  terrestrial and  aquatic
       ecological processes.  The combination of past fire suppression, aquatic habitat
       degradation,  depressed  fish  populations, and  homes  and  communities
       intermingled  in  the American  and  Crooked  river  watersheds  create  an
       environment where we  cannot now implement a policy of natural fire use.  The
       current Forest Plan does not allow wildland fire use within any portion of the
       project area. The nearest areas of permitted wildland fire use are the Gospel
       Hump Wilderness  and  the  East Meadow Creek  roadless  area. Additional
       roadless areas closer to the project area could be proposed for wildland fire use
       planning in the forest plan revision process.  These include West Meadow Creek
       and adjacent unroaded areas within the American River watershed, and Dixie
       Summit-Nut Hill and adjacent unroaded areas within Crooked River watershed.
    C.  TO INCREASE BIG GAME SUMMER HABITAT FOR ELK

        Both timber harvest and controlled burns will significantly increase big game
        summer habitat, benefiting the stressed elk population of the Clearwater Basin.
        (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.3.33400.330)

        RESPONSE:

        Comment acknowledged.  Harvest and burning  will  help to increase nutritious
        foraging habitats for big game (See FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1 1).
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91 .  THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD USE PRESCRIBED BURNING.

    A.  WITH THE USE OF PRESCRIBED BURN ONLY PRESCRIPTIONS

        We encourage the Forest Service to expand the  use of prescribed burn only
        prescriptions, in efforts to decrease fuel loads and create a mosaic of varying
        age-classes.  It appears from Appendix H,  where the silvicultural treatments are
        described; that the only burning accomplished will be in areas that have been
        harvested.  In  order to meet the  purpose  and need, bum  only treatments are
        appropriate and warranted.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
        #15.112.33410.273)
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    RESPONSE:
    The use of prescribed burning only will not effectively reduce the fuel loading
    within the stands to be treated.  If the burning only is done under the existing live
    canopy of the stands one of two results will happen; 1) the fuels will be too wet to
    remove enough of fuels to be effective (spring/late fall burning), 2) the burning
    would occur during  conditions (summer/early fall) when control of the fire will be
    difficult to control and the risk of adverse results happening are too great (high
    probability for fire to become uncontrolled and transition to a wildfire).
    By using burning in  conjunction with vegetative treatments, we will be better able
    to  effectively treat  the fuels located  within the treatment areas  to  meet the
    purpose and need of the project.
                                 CaJCSOS

B.  LEAVING A RANGE OF DOWNED WOODY MATERIAL ON THE GROUND
    When planning to bum unnaturally high fuel loads (i.e. logging  slash),  it is
    important to leave a range of downed  woody material on the ground in
    appropriate  areas  in order to preserve insect  and wildlife species diversity.
    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.130.33410.350)

    RESPONSE:
    Typically during our prescribed burning of logging  slash, we  use  prescription
    parameters  that will result in down woody material  left remaining for nutrients,
    shade,  habitat, etc.  The maintenance of some down woody material is the
    norm during prescribed  burning and the total  removal of all down woody
    materials is the exception.
    Prescribed burns are developed and implement with specific results  in mind.  To
    meet these results, the prescription parameters are  determined for the fuel and
    weather components so that the needed results can be achieved.  By having
    set parameters, we can determine the resulting fire behavior and  fire effects.
    When given objectives such as  retaining downed woody material for habitat,
    and site protection we  can determine the prescription  parameters  need to
    successfully accomplish  the objectives. To help us determine the  parameters
    we will use models such  as  RxWindows,  FOFEM (First Order Fire Effects
    Model), and  Behave.
C. WITH MECHANICAL TREATMENTS

   Where uncharacteristic or continuous fuel loads exist, mechanical  treatments
   may be necessary prior  to prescribed burning.  These treatments  should not
   focus on increasing canopy spacing by removing larger trees, but should remove
   ladder fuels and brush build ups.  Care should be given to areas directly adjacent
   to the base of large diameter trees.   Debris and fuels should be removed from
   these areas to protect tree  roots and cambia.   The Forest Service needs to
   provide  details of how and when  these adjacent areas are  to be treated.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.113.33420.273)
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           RESPONSE:

           Large diameter trees over 21 inches will not be  harvested within this project.
           Mechanical treatments of uncharacteristic fuel loads will include timber harvest to
           remove and  capture economic value and  fund  other treatments. The other
           mechanical treatments  prescribed for the treated area will vary  by stand and
           circumstance  (slope,  fuel  load,  soils,   etc),  but may  include  yarding  of
           unmerchantable material, machine or hand piling of excessive organic material,
           pull-back of fuels  from leave trees, jackpot burning of concentrations and piles,
           underburning, or  broadcast  burning. All treatments  will have site-specific
           silvicultural prescriptions and burn plans will  be developed and implemented  for
           any burning activities.
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92.  The Nez Perce National Forest should programmatically assess fire
     management policies.
     TO ASSURE THAT ECONOMIC INVESTMENTS IN FUEL REDUCTION ARE MOST EFFICIENT

     Where past fire suppression is often identified as a culprit,  it is necessary for the FS
     to  programmatically assess its  fire management policies so  that  economic
     investments in fuel reduction are most efficient.   Throwing money at unnecessary
     fire suppression activities followed by throwing money at fuel reduction because of
     the adverse  effects  of  fire  suppression  makes no  sense  ecologically  or
     economically.  Last  year's Slims Fire is a  case in point  where the damage from
     fighting fires that should not have been fought was far greater than any damage
     from the fire itself.  Likewise, spending money on fuel reduction activities so that fire
     suppression can allegedly be carried, resulting in the need to do  fuel reduction...
     seems like a cycle of management that only protects FSjob security.and damages
     ecosystems.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Moscow,   ID   -
     #22.4.33000.835)

     RESPONSE:
     The current Forest Plan does not allow for WFU within the project area, thus, all new
     fire starts require a suppression  response, and fuels treatments undertaken to lessen
     the effects of fires.
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93.  The Nez Perce National Forest should fully implement the Federal Wildland
     Fire policy.
     The development of approved fire management plans in  compliance with  the
     Federal Wildland Fire Policy was the  number  one policy objective  intended for
     immediate implementation in the Implementation Action Plan Report for the Federal
     Wildland Fire Management Policy and Program Review. In general, the FS lags far
     behind other federal  land management  agencies that have already invested
     considerable amounts of time, money, and resources to implement the Fire Policy.
     Continued  mismanagement of national forest  lands  and FS  refusal to  fully
     implement the Fire  Policy puts wildland firefighters at risk if and when they are
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     dispatched to wildfires.  This is a programmatic issue, one that the current Forest
     Plan does not adequately consider.  Please see Amend (1997) as comments on
     this   proposal,   in   terms   of   fire   policy   and   Forest   Planning.
     (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.8.33200.163)

     RESPONSE:

     The zone Fire Management Program  for the Clearwater and Nez Perce National
     Forests  does have  an  approved fire management plan in compliance  with the
     Federal Wildland Fire Policy.  The plan is updated annually and was most recently
     approved in June 2004, by both Forest Supervisors (Clearwater and Nez Perce).
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94.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider fire regime condition
     classes.

     Fire regimes - when proposed treatment areas are overlaid on the map of fire
     regime condition classes, the areas of both moderate and significant departure from
     historical range,  do  not  match to  the  extent needed  to  accomplish  project
     objectives.  This comparison once again focuses attention on factors (standards,
     guides,  and  administrative policy)  limiting  vegetative  management  options.
     (Timber/Wood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.12.33000.277)

     RESPONSE:

     Adherence  to the full  range  of Forest  Plan  standards limits  some vegetative
     management  options.  For example,  some  of  the  fire regime condition  class
     departure areas are  located in RHCA and landslide prone areas or would require
     road construction through  sensitive  landscape  areas that  would  necessitate
     additional surveys and analysis or Forest Plan amendments in order to implement
     some  treatments.  Additionally economic considerations  also came  into play  in
     determining treatment areas.
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95.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider fire regime models to
     determine fire intervals.
     The fact that areas may have missed some fire cycles may not be important at all
     for a couple of reasons.  First, is the predominance of lethal fire in the area like in
     1910 which sefs the successional stages at levels far different  than those the
     agency claims are historic  (see OHS maps). This is true for ponderosa pine types
     as well in this area which tend to be a bit wetter than the more typical ponderosa
     pine types further south (NOTE: The SFLA admits the ponderosa pine type was not
     as common in the South  Fork and  that lodgepole  more common than ICBEMP
     would lead one to believe).  Second, is the fact that these cycles are not hard and
     fast.  This second question we address briefly below.

     Other models of fire regimes need to be considered.  Some research suggests,
     even in the most studied ponderosa pine fire types that tire return intervals are far
     from certain and may be far different (if valid at all) than previously believed. Baker
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and Ehle (2001) note in  the abstract of their recent peer-reviewed paper note:
"Present understanding of fire ecology in forests subject to surface fires is based on
fire-scar evidence.  We present theory and empirical results that suggest that fire-
history data have uncertainties and biases when used to estimate the population
mean fire interval (F or other parameters of the tire regime.  First, the population
mean Fl is difficult to estimate precisely because of unrecorded fires and can only
be shown to lie in a broad range.  Second, the interval between tree origin and first
fire scar estimates a  real  fire-free  interval  that warrants inclusion  in mean-FI
calculations.  Finally, inadequate  sampling and targeting of multiple-scarred trees
and high scar densities bias mean Hs toward shorter intervals.
In ponderosa pine  (Pinus ponderosa Dougl. ex P. &  C.  Laws.) forests  of the
western  United States, these uncertainties and biases suggest that reported mean
FIs of 2-25 years significantly underestimate population mean FIs, which instead
may be between 22 and 308 years. We suggest that uncertainty be explicitly stated
in fire-history results  by bracketing the  range of possible population  mean FIs.
Research and improved methods may narrow the range, but there is no statistical
or other method that can eliminate all uncertainty. Longer mean FIs in ponderosa
pine forests suggest that (i) surface fire is still important,  but less so in maintaining
forest structure, and (ii) some dense patches of trees may have occurred in the pre
Euro-American landscape.  Creation of low-density forest structure across all parts
of ponderosa pine landscapes, particularly in valuable parks  and reserves,  is not
supported by these results."
Given this research, the concept of HRV may not be valid.  In fact, the agency
needs to take a look at all the assumptions behind the HRV and compare them with
the differences in the scientific literature.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
Moscow, ID - #22.48.33110.277)

RESPONSE:
The focus of the paper by Baker and Ehle was  on  nearly pure ponderosa forest,
which makes up a small portion of the project area.  They  state in their paper that
mean fire intervals based on fire  scar data may have uncertainties and biases and
actually  lead to longer fire intervals than previously thought.  They also state that
fires are also unrecorded upon some trees (i.e. no fire scar),  "Trees are often  charred
by a surface fire, but fires do  not always leave scars in particular areas or even a
whole stand, so fires may be unrecorded in fire scars", "It is uncertain for example,
whether a tree without a scar did  or did not burn in a fire that scarred nearby trees",
and "The abundance of unrecorded fires is largely unknown." This lack of an evident
fire scar may actually lead to inferring a  longer fire interval than occurred, which is
contrary to their theory about fire intervals.
While Baker and Ehle suggest that there may  be uncertainties  in the use of fire scars
to determine fire intervals, they do not offer any suggestions to reduce or  mitigate
these biases other than bracketing fire intervals, which is what we have  done in
using fire regimes and an associated  range of fire intervals (ex. 75 to 150 years for
infrequent fire regimes) for this project.
An important adjunct  of  fire scar studies is tree  age  plots at fixed intervals  to
characterize stand-replacing fires.  We have analyzed thousands of plots by habitat
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     type group and vegetation response unit (VRU) to derive local characterizations of
     presettlement fire regimes (data on file at Forest headquarters).
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     Wildland Urban Interface

96.  The Nez Perce National Forest should focus on thinning from below in the
     Wildland-Urban Interface.

     TO REMOVE LADDER AND GROUND FUELS
     In the  Will, we believe that the Forest Service  should place less emphasis on
     reducing crown bulk  density,  and  instead  focus  on thinning  from below  and
     removing ladder and  ground fuels.   Habitat loss  is increased in areas cut by
     regeneration, seed tree or shelter wood logging, prescriptions that produce adverse
     effects for species relying on more continuous canopies such as snowshoe hare,
     lynx, pine marten, and fisher. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
     #15.95.33470.330)

     RESPONSE:
     With respect to the WUI areas, any treatment done will result  in the reduction of the
     crown bulk density of the stand, including thinning from below and  removing ladder
     fuels, crown bulk density is defined  as "the mass of available fuel per  unit crown
     volume." While these types of treatments (thinning from below and  removing ladder
     fuels) are effective as a measure to keep fires from transitioning from a surface fire to
     a crown fire, they are  not as effective in transitioning a crown fire  back down to a
     surface fire. That transition of a crown to a surface fire is one of the things that larger
     blocks that have been  harvested will  accomplish.  This will help to better protect the
     private property and road infrastructure within the WUI. Additionally these treatment
     areas will provide safer areas for firefighters to initiate suppression tactics within the
     WUI areas.
     With respect to wildlife habitat, managing various habitat  types to maintain  or
     improve wildlife habitats is usually best done by duplicating the  fire regime and
     disturbance intervals that each habitat evolved with.  Thinning  from below to remove
     ladder  and  ground  fuels  is generally consistent  with fire's natural disturbance
     patterns in low elevation  sites  dominated by  ponderosa pine and dry Douglas fir
     types.  However, moderate and higher elevation mixed conifer and  spruce-fir zones
     experienced a variety of both  low and high  intensity fires that created a mix of
     partially burned and completely regenerated sites.  This created the patterns of age
     classes and conditions necessary for species such as lynx, snowshoe hares, fisher
     and  marten.   Exclusive  use  of  "thinning  from  below"  strategies  would  be
     inappropriate for higher elevation  habitats  because of failure to create  early serai
     habitats critical to production of forage species such as snowshoe hares.  Snowshoe
     hares are important prey of both lynx and fishers.
     Refer to Chapter 3, Section 3.11,  for information regarding wildlife habitat and
     cumulative effects analysis .
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97.  The Nez Perce National Forest should not treat areas beyond the Wildland-
     Urban Interface.
     A.  1.  The scoping notice states that one of the purposes is to reduce potential
            future fuel loading.   The Forest Plan gives direction to protect resource
            values through cost effective fire and fuels management (Forest Plan page
            11-2).  By  treating areas beyond  the wildland-urban interface (Will),  the
            Forest Service is being grossly inefficient and negligent in hazardous fuels
            reduction efforts.  The proposed activities will do nothing to safeguard the
            community from wildfires and will only increase the hazardous fuel load and
            create  a  false sense  of  security,  contrary  to Forest  Plan direction.
            (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -#15.10.33470.270)

            RESPONSE:
            Resource values,  as stated in the Forest  Plan  include not only Wildland
            Urban Interfaces, but  timber, air quality,  terrestrial and  aquatic habitat,
            recreation  opportunities, transportation  infrastructure,  etc.  The proposed
            treatments would  modify fire  behavior  by lowering fire intensities for  fires
            occurring in the treatment areas. This would give suppression resources the
            opportunity to utilize the treatment  areas during  suppression activities, which
            would allow for the control of a fire at a smaller size and/or less cost.
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        2.   It  is suggested that  "lethal fires  could pose risk to  structures  and
            investments" (P. VI).  Clarification and demarcation should be provided that
            identifies which structures and investments are  specifically at risk from fire.
            This is  difficult to comprehend given  that there are several concurrent
            projects  occurring and others proposed which focus on fuel reduction in the
            Will.  The Crooked River Demonstration and Orogrande defensible space
            projects  and BLM actions are  focused on protecting structures.  The Forest
            needs to justify why fuel reduction is necessary this far away from structures
            at   risk.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID
            #15.43.33470.270)

            RESPONSE: Text has been modified in FEIS (refer to page 200)
     B. WITH THINNING EFFORTS ON NORTH-FACING SLOPES
         Thinning efforts on north-facing slopes should be concentrated within the WUI
         so that natural mixed-lethal fires will not threaten structures. Many Lodgepole
         Pine stands normally experience stand-replacing events and may not in fact be
         outside historic  fuel loads  or  be  in  danger of uncharacteristic  wildfires.
         (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID -#15.99.33470.270)

         On north-facing wetter forest slopes, a mixed severity or lethal fire regime was
         more common, as is evident in the DEIS' descriptions.  Thinning here should be
         concentrated around the WUI. We recommend  that no even age treatments be
         implemented outside the WUI.   Clear cuts, shelter wood and reserve tree
         logging activities transfer fuels from the canopy to the ground  and increase
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          hazardous fuel loading, exacerbating the effects of wildfire.  Also, clear cuts and
          similar logging prescriptions increase the potential for severe blow-downs  by
          increasing wind  speed and decreasing shelter to the outlying trees,  again
          increasing the amount of hazardous ground fuels.  Clear cuts also encourage
          rapid regeneration in Lodgepole pine forests.  A dense layer of small saplings
          and young trees could support a rapid-spreading low crown fire and increase
          the risk of a large-scale  wildfire.  Any efforts to thin Lodgepole pine should
          maintain a sufficient density of trees to serve as windbreaks for each other and
          to prevent wind  throw.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID -
          #15.115.33470.270)

          RESPONSE:

          Refer to the first two stated objectives of this project (FEIS, Chapter 1, Section 1.3).
          The vast majority of all acres proposed for treatment regardless of aspect are  in the
          mixed severity or lethal fire regime. Silvicultural prescriptions are based on relevance
          to meeting the stated objectives within the purpose and need. How well a stand
          meets criteria depends upon the vegetative condition of the stands as well as  the
          juxtaposition to the WUI, past treatment areas and determined fire protection areas.
          Social and economic values in the WUI  are not the only resources at risk from
          wildfire in the project area.
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  98.   The Nez Perce National Forest should scale back the project since it is not
       in the WUI.

       Since this is project is not in the WUI, and other projects are currently addressing the
       risk to structures and natural resources, the project should be significantly scaled back.
       (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.47.10400.002)

       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged. Portions of the project are within WUI.
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99.    The Final EIS should discuss the fire behavior in each  of the six different
       Fuel Models that represent the project area.
       The FEIS should also discuss fire behavior in each of the six different Fuel Models that
       represent the project area. The DEIS states that Fuel Model 8 represents an elevated
       risk only in severe  weather  conditions.  In the next paragraph, at page 153, the
       impression is given  that  Fuel Model 10 exhibits  "high  fire intensities"  regardless of
       weather.  Is this accurate, or does Fuel Model 10 only exhibit high intensities during
       severe weather conditions? Please elaborate in the FEIS.   (Preservation/Conservation
       Organization, Boise,  ID-#15.101.21100.270)

       RESPONSE:

       The descriptions of the fuel  models were taken  from Aids  to Determining Fuel
       Models for Estimating Fire Behavior by Hal Anderson (1982). The descriptions given
       are for the typical fire behavior for that fuel model under normal fire conditions during
       the fire season.   Comparing Fuel Model 8, Fuel Model 10,  and Fuel Model 13  fire
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      intensities and  spread rates with a dead fuel moisture of 8%, live fuel moisture of
      100%, and mid-flame wind speed of 5mph the results are as follows:
Fuel Model
8
10
13
Rate of Spread (chains/hr)
1.6
7.9
13.5
Flame Length (feet)
1.0
4.8
10.5
      Fires with a flame length of 4 feet or greater are generally considered to be to in
      tense to control by hand and requires equipment such as dozers or air support to
      control.
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100.  The Final EIS should recognize that thinning and regeneration harvests
      may actually increase the short-term  risk of high-severity wildfire.

      Thinning and regeneration harvests, alone, often result in greater amounts of hazardous
      fuels (slash)  on the ground than prior to  treatment,  which may actually increase the
      short-term risk of high-severity wildfire.   The  FEIS must recognize this  factor, even
      where slash disposal is proposed, timing of slash disposal is contingent on numerous
      factors which may not be met in a timely fashion.  Moreover,  this  risk appears to be
      considerable given that at page 17 it states, "Slash from salvage would be lopped and
      scattered, hand piled and burned in the woods, or removed from  the site  at the discretion
      of the District ranger considering  the Forest objective of maintaining less than 12 tons
      per acre of fine fuels."  This section is particularly vague and could allow accumulation of
      slash  in  areas.   This would clearly  be counter to the  objectives  of  the project.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.111.21100.270)

      RESPONSE:
      As stated in the hazard discussion  of the Fire/Fuels section  of the  FEIS, it is
      acknowledged  that the short-term  risk of a  high  severity wildfire is possible
      between the time  the vegetative treatment  occurs and  the  slash disposal is
      completed.  The long-term benefits of the treatments (modified fire behavior and
      lower future fuel loadings) outweigh this short-term risk.   Additionally,  after slash
      disposal is completed,  the fuel loadings within the treatment units will be less than
      12 tons per acre.  If the treatments are  not completed and stands continue to
      transition to Fuel Models 10 and  13,  we would see fuel loadings in excess of 12
      tons per acre.
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101.  The Final EIS should describe in detail the fuels treatment areas, Including
      the process and criteria used in the selection of the areas and
      determination of size and width.

      EPA agrees with the need to include  fuels treatment into the management of forests to
      prevent wildfire.  We recommend that the final EIS describe in more detail the fuels
      treatment areas, Including the process and criteria used in the selection of the areas and
      determination  of  size  and  width.    (Federal Agency  Official,  Seattle,  WA  -
      #24.23.21100.273)
      According to the DEIS (at page  151), only 1249  acres in the project area represent a
      frequent,  non-lethal  fire  regime.   This also  represents only a  small portion of  the
      proposed logging area.  Why then, does the DEIS give the impression that the project is
      designed to mitigate  for departures from the historic fire regime.  For instance, at page
      157, the DEIS  states:  "Under Alternatives B,  C,  D, and E?  This would start to bring
      these stands back into their historic fire regime."
      The FEIS should  clearly delineate  the number of acres in each Fire  Regime  (as
      displayed in  DEIS at page  151), in  order to provide a clearer picture for  the actual
      percent of treatment in these frequent fire return interval systems.  Otherwise,  the project
      and its DEIS gives false impressions of the result, purpose and need of and for  the
      project. (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.100.21100.277)

      RESPONSE:
      The project was not specifically designed to mitigate for the departure from historic
      fire regime.  Alternatives B,  C, D, and  D (modified) would serve to  return stands
      historically associated with very frequent and frequent fire regimes to more natural
      conditions through the  use  of mechanical or prescribed fire as surrogates for
      natural fire when those stands are treated.
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102.  The Final EIS should include the fire histories and historical forest
      compositions of the Crooked River and American River watersheds.

      It is important to recognize  that  not all Lodgepole pine stands were characterized  by
      stand replacement fire  regimes.  Fire history should be  analyzed in the Crooked River
      and American River watersheds and utilized to determine appropriate treatments. This
      information  should be  clearly  conveyed  in  the FEIS.   (Preservation/Conservation
      Organization, Boise, ID-#15.103.21100.277)
      Thinning forests is a generally accepted component of decreasing the risk of a severe
      fire event on south-facing slopes with dry forest types that were historically characterized
      by low density stands ofponderosa pine with large openings between trees.  In order to
      justify  this sort of thinning  activity,  the FEIS should contain substantive information
      concerning the  historical nature  of these forests.  This will help to establish  a stand
      density target that  is within the historical range of natural variability. According to  the
      DEIS,  though, only a small portion (approx. 3.2 percent) of the project area represents
      this   forest   type.      (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID
      #15.114.21100.277)
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      RESPONSE:
      We recognize that  not  all lodgepole  pine  stands  are  characterized  by stand
      replacement fire regimes, but lodgepole stands located within the project area can
      generally all be  characterized  by mixed and lethal fire regimes.  This  can be
      concluded because the lodgepole stands within the project area are predominately
      single  storied  and even aged stands that  would  follow a high  severity stand
      replacing fire event.  Furthermore, fire scars are seldom observed.
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103.  The Nez Perce National Forest should not  harvest timber.

      BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING AFFECTS WATER QUALITY

      In regards to the issue of fire,  maps produced  by the USFS,  BLM, and  State of
      Idaho show that,  after quality fire-prevention projects such as the positive  "Dixie
      Fuel Breaks" and "Red River Defensible Space", fire risk now to Elk City is low to
      moderate.  Logging  in the American and Crooked River drainages will not change
      this, but it will continue to degrade an already-degraded watershed (S.  Fork
      Clearwater River). (Individual, Moscow, ID-#9.4.34000.270)

      RESPONSE:

      The purpose and need for this project is broader than fire risk to  Elk City. For a review
      see Section 1-3 of the FEIS. There are also many restoration activities planned with an
      associated "upward trend" to the watershed conditions (Section 3.2. - Watershed).

      Fuels projects such  as  Dixie Fuel  Break and Red River Defensible Space were
      designed to be site-specific fuels projects. As such they will help to lower the fire risk
      in the immediate area, in this case Dixie town and the houses  near Red River, and
      they are really the last line of defense when trying to protect these structures and
      improvements.
      With that in mind, those projects in and of themselves would not lower the fire risk to
      the town of Elk  City or  the rest of the project  area, nor would they increase fire
      suppression efficiency or effectiveness, except in very localized areas.
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      SECTION 6 - AIR QUALITY

     104. THE FINAL EIS SHOULD REFER TO EPA's INTERIM POLICY ON AIR QUALITY
          FOR PRESCRIBED FIRES.
          TO DEMONSTRATE CONSISTENCY WITH NATIONAL POLICY
          EPA encourages federal land managers  to refer to the interim Air Quality Policy on
          Wildland and Prescribed Fires in their NEPA  documents.  The interim Policy best
          reflects national policy as to how Federal agencies,  States,  and Tribes will address
          the competing needs of clean air and fire in the ecosystem.  The Interim Policy was
          prepared with the involvement of the Federal land management agencies including
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          that of the Department of Agriculture.  By describing this national policy, the Forest
          Service further demonstrates how its actions are consistent with national policy. EPA
          supports the use of smoke management as a tool for maintaining clean  air while
          allowing for prescribed fires. Enclosed  is a copy of the Interim Policy.  (Federal
          Agency Official, Seattle, WA - #24.26.10400.250)

          RESPONSE:

          The Regional smoke guide Describing Air Resource Impacts From Prescribed
          Fire Projects in NEPA Documents for  Montana and Idaho  in Region 1  and
          Region  4 (Acheson, et al,  2000) was  used as the guide for completing the air
          quality description.  This guide uses the Interim Policy as guidance. Additionally
          the Montana/Idaho Smoke Management  Group ensure burners are meeting the
          EPA's Interim Policy  requirements by  coordinating and approving  proposed
          burns within the airsheds in accordance with their operating guide to minimize
          cumulative air quality impacts.
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      SECTION 7 - RECREATION

 105. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD MANAGE LANDS FOR RECREATION.

      / believe the best use Idaho could have from these national lands lies in the direction of
      recreation, not logging.  These lands are too hilly for profitable replanting for harvesting
      trees. (Individual, Moscow, ID-#21.1.50000.820)

      RESPONSE:

      Comment acknowledged.  The USDA Forest Service is a multiple use agency and is
      charged with providing much more than recreation for the public it serves.
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106.  The Nez Perce National Forest should describe how they will monitor and
      control Off Highway Vehicle use.

      The Forest Service needs to describe  how they will effectively monitor and control the
      use of OHVs on Forest Service and non-system roads, obliterated roads, and trails in
      the project area.   The analysis should  include funding and  numbers  of personnel
      available for these duties.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID  -
      #15.55.53100.165)
      We suggest discussing efforts to discourage off road transportation and  to keep ATV
      usage concentrated in areas that are  more resistant to damage from these  vehicles.
      (Federal Agency, Elected Official, Seattle, WA-#24.21.53100.234)

      Even for the system roads that are proposed for closure, abandonment, or obliteration,
      we have yet to see effective  closures and enforcement that prevent use by OHVs.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.54.30200.410)
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      RESPONSE:

      Monitoring will only be conducted during the implementation process and will be funded
      as a part of the project implementation.

      Thank you for your suggestion. It is hoped that your ideas will be addressed during the
      Forest Plan revision process.

      Physical closures will need to fit into the terrain to be effective (difficult to pass or get
      around).
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107.  The Final EIS should include more information about effects of all terrain
      vehicles (ATVs) in the analysis of roads impacts.

      We also recommend that the analysis of roads contain more information on the areas
      used by all terrain vehicles (ATVs) and the  sediment generated by their use as  well as
      any other negative impacts associated with off road travel.  (Federal Agency, Elected
      Official, Seattle, WA - #24.20.13100.500)

      RESPONSE:
      No complete inventory  of all terrain vehicle  trails, whether system trails or user-created
      trails,  was done for this project.  Sediment from trails was not explicitly measured or
      modeled  using NEZSED, but trails on erodible materials were documented in FEIS
      Chapter 3, Section 3.1. - Soils,  Surface and Substratum Erosion.  Specific sites were
      identified for restoration. See Appendix D Middle Crooked River.
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      SECTION 8 - TRANSPORTATION

      ROADS GENERAL

    108. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST  SHOULD NOT APPROVE NEW ROAD
         CONSTRUCTION.
      A.  We continue to adamantly oppose any new road construction in the project area,
         even temporary construction.  The proposal for 15 miles of temporary roads, 3 new
         stream crossings  and 24 miles  of  reconstruction  is absurd given the  current
         conditions of the watershed from  previous roading and management activities and
         we are adamantly opposed to this action.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
         Boise, ID - #15.62.41100.247)

         RESPONSE:
         Please refer to the response to comment 110 for a discussion of the need for
         temporary roads and then subsequent decommissioning of these roads.

         There  are no identified  live water stream crossings associated with any of  the
         proposed temporary roads.  Please refer to the Soils, Water Quality, and Fish  Habitat
         section of the table  entitled Project Design and Mitigation Measures for the American
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   and Crooked  River  Project in  Chapter 2 of the FEIS  for additional information
   regarding live water stream crossings and road decommissioning.
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B.  ON SOILS HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO EROSION OR COMPACTION WHEN THE WATERSHEDS
   ARE ALREADY IMPACTED BY SEDIMENTATION FROM EROSION
   No new road construction  should occur on  soils highly susceptible to erosion or
   compaction.   It is particularly troubling that the Proposed Action includes  an
   estimated 7 acres of temporary road construction  (American River) on soil substrata
   highly susceptible to  erosion.  It is absurd and unacceptable that the Forest Service
   would propose adding to the acres of current roads in areas at high risk of erosion
   when  the  watersheds  are already being  heavily impacted and  degraded  by
   sedimentation from this erosion. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID
   -#15.61.41100.231)

   RESPONSE:
   About 7.25 miles of temporary  road  are proposed  (Alternative C) on soil
   substrata rated  high for erosion hazard, and about 6.75 miles on soils  of
   moderate erosion hazard. Please see the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1. - Soils,
   Substratum Erosion  for this analysis.   Compaction  hazard  is not analyzed in
   evaluating road effects, since road prisms are purposely compacted to provide a
   firm surface, and then sub-soiled and recontoured during decommissioning to
   restore permeability and subsurface hydrologic function. However, displacement
   and loss through mixing of the surface soil, usually the more permeable and
   productive volcanic ash layer, is a result of all road construction unless topsoil is
   stockpiled and replaced.  This is also discussed in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section
   3.1 - Soils, Soil Compaction and Displacement.
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C. BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS ON LISTED FISH SPECIES IN THE PROJECT AREA
   As stated in our scoping comments on this project, and on other similar projects in
   the area, we believe that new road construction,  even temporary, is simply not a
   viable option given the Forest Service's own scientific evidence showing the road
   system's effect on listed fish species in this watershed. (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID-#15.3.41100.380)

   RESPONSE:
   The FEIS Chapter 3, Sections 3.2 (Watershed) and  3.3 (Fisheries) discuss the
   modeled impacts these road-building activities will have on fish/water quality.
   The FEIS Appendix  E lists  the  limitations of both the  NEZSED and FISHSED
   models.  Our analysis shows that when combining  these actions with the planned
   restoration, the result is an improvement in fish habitat and water quality.
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109.  The Nez Perce National Forest should not approve any construction of
      temporary roads.

      A.  BECAUSE OF THE FOREST SERVICE'S POOR ENFORCEMENT OF ROAD CLOSURES WITHIN
          ALL DRAINAGES NOT MEETING BENEFICIAL USES
          Given the extremely poor success rate the Forest Service has regarding enforcing
          road closures, it is likely that continued user-created resource damage will continue
          to occur into the foreseeable future.  The most practical way to realize an upward
          trend in fish habitat is to reject any temporary roads and to preclude this type of
          treatment,   especially  within  all  drainages   not   meeting  beneficial   uses.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.69.41400.165)

          RESPONSE:
          Please  refer to the response to comment no.  107 for a discussion of the need for
          temporary roads.   Refer also to the comment no. 112 response for a discussion of
          the road decommissioning  process.  The important  points to  take from  these
          discussions are: (1) temporary road construction is necessary to satisfy the  project
          Purpose and Need, and to contribute to the economic viability of the project; (2) all
          temporary  roads  will be  decommissioned  within  three  years  following their
          construction; and  (3) every effort is  made to  limit unauthorized incursions  on
          decommissioned roads.
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      B.  BECAUSE OF THEIR SEDIMENTATION  EFFECTS DURING  AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER
          THEIR CONSTRUCTION AND OBLITERATION
          1.  Even with "Temporary Roads", the most significant addition of sediment to
             streams is during years 1 and 2, and in response to obliteration. While  the
             Idaho Conservation League supports, in premise, the concept of "Temporary
             Roads," they  are not  appropriate in  these already  heavily  roaded  and
             degraded ecosystems.  For reference,  see Potyondy, J.P., G.F. Cole,  and
             W.F. Megahan.   1991.  A  procedure for  estimating sediment yields from
             forested watersheds. Pages 12-46  to  12-54
             RESPONSE:
             Please refer to the response to comment #110 for a discussion of the need for
             temporary roads and the decommissioning of these roads.
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          2.  In Proceedings: Fifth Federal Interagency  Sedimentation Conference.   Federal
             Energy Regulatory Commission, Washington,  D.C.  In fact,  according  to  this
             research, over a seven-year period, 77% of soil loss occurs within the first  two
             years of road construction.  Therefore, the impacts from road construction, even
             temporary ones, are significant and have very real potential to significantly
             impact fisheries habitat.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise, ID -
             #15.25.41400.201)

             RESPONSE:
             The figure of 77 percent of soil loss from roads within the first two years is  the
             same as the basic erosion rate for  roads used in the R1R4 Guide (Cline, et al).
             This basic  erosion rate  for roads  was  incorporated into the NEZSED  model,
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             which was used  in the sediment yield analysis for the American and Crooked
             River  project.    The  effects  of   road  construction,  reconstruction  and
             decommissioning on sediment yield are disclosed in Chapter 3 of the FEIS.
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110.  The Nez Perce National Forest should base this  project off of existing
      roads and  close additional roads.
      If there /s to be any type of project, it needs to be based off of existing road systems,
      and close additional roads.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise,  ID -
      #15.7.23000.410)
      RESPONSE:
      The areas available for prescribed treatment activities  that  are  accessible from
      existing roads are insufficient in size and location to satisfy the project's Purpose and
      Need and to contribute to the economic viability of the project. The  fuels reduction
      portion of the project  is focused  primarily on removing dead, down and dying
      lodgepole pine, which must be removed in quantities  and at  locations sufficient to
      create the fuel breaks necessary to achieve the project objectives (FEIS, Chapter 1).
      A portion of the timber revenue generated will be  used for the proposed watershed
      restoration activities.  All temporary roads constructed as part of this project would be
      decommissioned within three years of their construction (refer to FEIS, Chapter 2).
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111.  The Nez Perce National Forest should decommission roads.

      A.  LOCATED IN RIPARIAN HABITAT CONSERVATION AREAS OR ON HIGHLY ERODIBLE SLOPES

          While we understand that access  needs to be provided  for recreation and forest
          maintenance purposes, EPA encourages the USFS to continue to balance the needs
          of the public  with the need to reduce sediment loading to streams.  It appears from
          the DEIS that a high percentage of roads that would be decommissioned are the new
          roads being constructed for this project. We recommend finding ways to continue to
          decommission other roads, especially those  that  are located in  riparian  habitat
          conservation  areas and on highly erodable slopes. (Federal Agency Official, Seattle,
          WA-#24.19.41300.002)

          RESPONSE:
          A roads  analysis  (conducted as part of this project)  identified roads deemed not
          essential to management of the proposed project area and were considered as
          candidates for decommissioning (refer to Appendix F).  Although additional roads
          will probably not be recommended for decommissioning for  this particular project,
          we will continue to reevaluate the need for our roads and decommission more
          roads as conditions allow.
          As stated in Chapter 2, the miles of roads proposed for decommissioning are not
          associated with the miles of temporary road construction proposed in this project.
          All temporary roads  will be decommissioned following their use, but the roads
          proposed for  decommissioning as part of the watershed restoration activities are
          existing forest system roads.
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B. WHICH CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO SEDIMENTATION OR IN AREAS WITH A HIGH RISK
   OF LANDSLIDES

   Decommissioning roads should be the top priority for the Forest and especially for
   the Red River Ranger District.  It is unacceptable that road construction is proposed
   in an  area  that is already heavily roaded, and where  water quality has  been
   significantly degraded because of excessive road densities.  The DEIS notes this
   glaring problem on  page  IV,  "Stream  channels have been mostly' affected by
   sediment  deposition  and road encroachment."   It is also notable  that  the  DEIS
   acknowledges that, "Surveyed  streams in the analysis area are below their Forest
   Plan objectives (existing and proposed) included in Appendix A [of the Forest Plan]"
   (P.  V). (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.23.41300.240)
   Roads contributing significantly to sedimentation should be decommissioned.  251
   acres  in  the American River watershed and  413 acres in the Crooked  River
   watershed contain old roads that are on soil rated high for erosion.  There are also 1
   and 34 acres respectively in areas  that are rated as a high risk of landslide. As many
   of these roads as possible should  be decommissioned.  (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID-#15.58.41300.230)

   RESPONSE:

   Landslide  risk and erosion hazard are two factors considered when evaluating roads
   for decommissioning.  Administrative jurisdiction and public demand for that road are
   other factors (e.g., the main Crooked River road is maintained by Idaho County; we
   can  work cooperatively with  the  County to reduce  erosion, but  we  could not
   decommission it).
   Under alternative D,  a total of 79 acres  of required road decommissioning  would
   occur (see Appendix D) and another 72 acres if discretionary decommissioning is
   implemented.   About 38 acres of the  required decommissioning would treat soil
   substrata with high erosion  hazard. The discretionary road decommissioning would
   treat an additional  20 acres with high erosion hazard.  Please see Section 3.1.1.1
   and Section 3.1.2.1 on soil physical effects.
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C. PRIOR TO THINNING AND BURNING TREATMENTS
   The project should decommission and obliterate all high-risk and redundant roads as
   determined by a complete Roads  Analysis.  Road decommissioning must be done
   prior  to  treatments  to ensure   that  decommissioning  is  achieved  and not
   overshadowed  by  the thinning  and  burning treatments,  or that funding  for
   decommissioning   is   not   diverted   for   fire   suppression    activities.
   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise, ID-#15.70.41300.270)

   RESPONSE:

   A roads analysis consistent with the requirements of section 7712.13c of Forest
   Service Manual 7700 (FSM 7700) - Transportation  System was conducted  as
   part of this  project.  All roads within  the project area that were deemed not
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          essential for future management of the affected areas, and the decommissioning
          of  which would presumably benefit  watershed  health were  proposed for
          decommissioning.   Please refer to the Nez Perce NF response to a comment
          received from the Nez Perce Tribal  Executive Committee (dated November 19,
          2004, which immediately follows the response to public comments section) for a
          discussion of the implementation phase of this project.
                                      dS CS OS (S3 C9 (ffS

112.  The Nez Perce National Forest should expand and guarantee the
      decommissioning of roads in the project area.

      We appreciate the efforts to decommission 30 miles of roads, but these efforts need to
      be   expanded    significantly   and   guaranteed    throughout   the   watershed.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID-#15.6.41300.247)

      RESPONSE:
      Refer to response to comment 34(G) for the full text of this response.  Most restoration
      work associated with this project will be accomplished using various contracting
      mechanisms. Some of the work, streamside planting for example,  may be accomplished
      through participating, volunteer, and challenge cost-share agreements.

      The various types of contracting authorities being considered to implement the project
      include stewardship, service, and timber sale contracts, each of which offers a different
      opportunity to apply funds or contract specifications toward completing restoration
      activities.

      At this  time, a guarantee of funding or results is not possible. However, we can say with
      a high  degree of confidence that restoration funds will be made available from a variety
      of sources over the life of the project, as planned.
      In the event of significantly changed conditions due to natural events related to  large
      floods,  wind or fire affecting the project area, the  project would be reevaluated.
      Funding Sources:

        •  Appropriated funds have been  requested for fiscal year 2005 and beyond, to
           accomplish restoration work in the upper  South  Fork Clearwater River, including
           the American and Crooked River project area.

        •  The  North Central Resource Advisory Committee (RAC) is on record supporting
           this project and has the capability to fund a significant portion of the restoration
           once the project is approved.

        •  Many road  improvements  and a  portion  of the existing road decommissioning
           would be accomplished through timber sale contract provisions where such roads
           would be used for hauling and removing forest products.

        •  Where forest product revenues are projected to exceed operational logging and
           site treatment costs, stewardship contracting authorities would be used to allow
           the Forest Service to direct those revenues toward restoration activities.
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         •   A substantial portion of the restoration work fits well under partnership and grant
            opportunities:

             o  A recent addition to the potential sources of funding for restoration activities is
                the Pacific Salmon Recover Fund (PSRF). At least one grant proposal from a
                local non-profit organization has already been submitted, through the PSRF
                process, to do restoration work in the project area.

             o  Restoration  work associated  with this  project,  once  approved,  will be
                incorporated  into the  South  Fork Clearwater River TMDL implementation
                plan, which is under development by the SFCR Watershed Advisory Group.

             o  Many of  the proposed restoration  projects would  be competitive for  BPA
                funds and work  could be accomplished in  partnership with the Nez Perce
                Tribe.
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113.  The Nez Perce National Forest should close all inappropriate trails.

      TO MINIMIZE SEDIMENTATION IN THE WATERSHEDS
      Inappropriate trails need to be closed.   The DEIS nofes that, "Motorized and  non-
      motorized trails account for 65 acres of  soil disturbance,  susceptible to  surface and
      subsurface erosion.   Thirty-five  acres  are  on soil substrata  rated  high for erosion
      hazard." These trails should be closed to motorized use to minimize erosion.   This is
      necessary  given  that sedimentation  is  a  huge  problem  in  the  watersheds.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.52.42300.231)

      RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
                                      08 C« 0* 03 08 0*

114.  The Nez Perce National Forest should close all non-essential roads.

      BECAUSE THAT is THE BEST WAY TO RESTORE DAMAGED WATERSHEDS FOR ECONOMIC AND
      ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS
      Road closure is a contentious issue, especially in Idaho County, but is simply the best
      way to restore watersheds suffering from legacy problems. Permanently'closing all non-
      essential roads will  save money, protect  water quality, protect wildlife, and safeguard
      endangered species and their habitat.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
      ID-#15.77.41300.002)

      RESPONSE: Please refer to the response to comment 111 c.
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115.   The Nez Perce National Forest should actively enforce the closure of roads.

       TO PREVENT INCURSIONS BY ORVS

       The obliterated road  should be gated,  signed, and patrolled to prevent incursions by
       ORVs.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.73.43000.501)

       RESPONSE:

       Roads that are obliterated  are generally not gated or signed. The concept behind
       this approach  is that  we do not want to call attention to the fact that a road had
       previously existed.  Please refer to Environmental Effects in Section 3.8 of the FEIS
       for a discussion of unauthorized incursions on decommissioned roads..

       Where  we might reasonably  expect to experience  problems  with  unauthorized
       incursions on a decommissioned road we would camouflage the entrances, either by
       recontouring the roadway at the entrances or by placing natural barriers, such as
       logs and branches.   Patrolling of the entrances to decommissioned roads by law
       enforcement to prevent unauthorized incursions would be conducted as resources
       allow.
                                      (33 OS (S3 (33 (33 (33

116.   The Nez Perce National  Forest should detail the maintenance plan for all
       roads in the project area.

       Proper  road maintenance  is critical for any remaining  roads  if sediment  is to be
       controlled.  The Forest Service should detail the maintenance plan for all roads in the
       project area. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID - #15.76.41200.234)

       RESPONSE:

       Each  forest system road is, and would continue to be,  maintained  in a manner
       consistent with the road management objectives established for the road, if sufficient
       funding  is available to  do so. Please refer to Appendix F of the FEIS for a list of road
       management objectives for each road in the project area.
                                      (IS (33 CS (33 (33 (33

117.   The Nez Perce National  Forest should secure funding for road
       decommissioning.

       TO GUARANTEE DECOMMISSIONING OF ROADS. REGARDLESS OF TIMBER REVENUES
       It is essential that road-decommissioning proposals be guaranteed as part of this, or any
      project.   We recommend  that funds be  secured to  pay for the decommissioning,
       regardless of the revenue generated by the sale of timber.  The NPNF should investigate
       the potential to acquire appropriated funds for the purpose of road decommissioning.  If
       timber sales are delayed or fail to attract bidders, roads should still be decommissioned
      as part of this project, and  should not be contingent upon the sale of timber.  Utilizing
      congressionally appropriated,  cost-share, mitigation and/or restoration funds  for road
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      decommissioning should be prioritized for the American and Crooked River Watershed.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.67.14100.410)

      Any road  decommissioning  or other  watershed improvement activities  must  be
      guaranteed and completed regardless of the successful sale of timber,  or the revenue
      generated by such sales.

      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.133.10400.100)

      RESPONSE:
      Refer to response to comment 34(G) and 112.  Briefly, most restoration work associated
      with this project will be accomplished using various contracting mechanisms. Some of
      the work, streamside planting for example, may be accomplished through participating,
      volunteer, and challenge cost-share agreements.
      The various types of contracting authorities being considered to implement the project
      include stewardship, service, and timber sale contracts, each of which offers a different
      opportunity to apply funds or contract specifications toward completing restoration
      activities.
      At this  time, a guarantee of funding or results is not possible. However, we can say with
      a high  degree of confidence that restoration funds will be made available from a variety
      of sources over the life of the project, as  planned.
      In the event of significantly changed conditions due to natural events related to  large
      floods, wind or fire affecting the project area, the project would be reevaluated.
                                       08  05 0« OS CJ 0*

118.  The Nez Perce National Forest  should remove all  culverts from obliterated
      roads.
      A.  FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS
          Culverts of obliterated roads should be removed and restored to reduce the effects
          these   have   on   sedimentation,  water  quality,   and   soil  productivity.
      ~    (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.71.43000.220)

          RESPONSE:
          Removal of drainage structures, including culverts, is, in general, an element of
          the decommissioning process,  regardless of the method of decommissioning.
          The only exception in this project is the road-to-trail conversion of road  9833.
          The roadway will  remain  intact for use  by snowmobiles and snow grooming
          machines during the winter. Please refer to section  3.8. of the FEIS for further
          discussion of the various methods  of decommissioning.
                                          OaCSCS

      B.  TO AVOID BLOCKED DRAINAGES AND POTENTIAL BLOWOUTS

          All culverts should  be removed  from obliterated  roads.   Culverts that are not
          maintained  may   lead   to   blocked   drainages  and  eventual   blowouts.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.75.43000.247)
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          RESPONSE: Please refer to response to 119(A).
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119.  The Final EIS should provide additional information concerning
      transportation management for the proposed project and the effects of
      transportation management decisions.

      A.  INCLUDING THE RISK OF EROSION FOR ROADS BEING PROPOSED FOR DECOMMISSIONING
          The E/S should provide information regarding what the  risk of erosion is for those
          roads  that  are  being  proposed   for  decommissioning  under  the   project.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.59.21100.231)

          RESPONSE:
          This information is now included in the FEIS, Section 3.1. - Soils, Surface and
          Substratum Erosion
          The erosion risk of roads proposed for decommissioning  was identified with land
          type surveys and field surveys and is documented on the field survey sheets as
          part of the project record.  Brief summaries of these field surveys are found in
          Appendix D of the FEIS under the description/comments column  in each of the
          road decommissioning tables.  Their importance as a contribution to watershed
          restoration is also reflected  in the two priority  columns.  Erosion risk of these
          roads is also reflected in the sediment modeling coefficients that are associated
          with each road segment. These are also part of the project record.
                                         0303(33

      B.  INCLUDING THE SPECIFIC TERMS OF THE VEHICLES ALLOWED TO OPERATE
          The FEIS should be specific in terms of the vehicles allowed to operate in order to
          reduce the potential impacts to soils and vegetation.  All logs need to be removed by
          carrying the entire tree without dragging it and disturbing the soils.  No logging within
          RHCAs   (Riparian    Habitat   Conservation   Area)   should   be   permitted.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-it15.119.21100.231)

          RESPONSE: No logging is planned in streamside RHCAs - see FEIS Section 3.3
                                         (13(13(33

      C.  INCLUDING WHEN ROADS PROPOSED FOR DECOMMISSIONING WILL BE OBLITERATED AND
          REPLANTED WITH TREES
          / might have missed it, but somewhere  there should be a  date (or at least an
          expected date) when these roads will be obliterated and replanted (one would hope)
          with trees. (Individual, Moscow, ID - #6.5.21100.360)

          RESPONSE:
          Please refer to Table 2.3, item  11 of the FEIS  for information  regarding the
          decommissioning  of  temporary roads.   The  temporary  roads  are  generally
          decompacted,  recontoured, covered with  slash, and seeded as needed.  Tree
          planting is generally not included in the revegetation process of obliterated roads.
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   However, roadway  openings  in forested  areas are relatively small, and  tree
   growth will generally  occur over time.  Planting with trees and/or  shrubs  is
   prescribed when it is deemed desirable and natural regrowth is not expected in a
   timely manner.
                                    080303

D. INCLUDING WHAT EACH CLOSURE METHOD WILL BE FOR EACH ROAD PROPOSED FOR
   DECOMMISSIONING

   The DEIS  discusses  various possible scenarios  for decommissioning, including
   abandonment, gating,  and obliteration. It should be made clear what each closure
   method will be for each road, as simply abandoning a road that is regularly used as
   an ATV route will continue to result in long-term impacts.  Further,  the DEIS makes
   clear (at page 87) that  temporary roads are difficult to restore  to their former
   productivity.  Therefore, excessive construction of temporary roads will have lasting
   impacts and  will jeopardize resource  values for years to come.   This should be
   considered in the FEIS and the Record of Decision.  (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID-#15.60.21100.410)

   RESPONSE:
   Please refer to the tables in Appendix D of the FEIS for the specific methods of
   decommissioning recommended for each  road.  Refer also to the response to
   comment 115,  above,  for  a  discussion  of unauthorized  incursions  on
   decommissioned roads.
   We acknowledge that, at present, the soil productivity at locations where roads
   were constructed and subsequently obliterated is  difficult to  reestablish.   The
   alternative  to  building temporary roads is to limit the prescribed  treatment
   activities  to areas that can be accessed solely from existing roads.  Please refer
   to the response to comment 110, above, for a more detailed discussion regarding
   the reasons for proposing the use of temporary  roads.
                                    eao#o«

E.  INCLUDING THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED ROAD DENSITIES DURING PROJECT
   IMPLEMENTATION FOR ALL THE ALTERNATIVES
   The United  States Fish  and Wildlife Service Bull Trout Interim  Conservation
   Guidance states  that  depressed bull trout populations had an average watershed
   road density of 1.4 miles per square mile and were extirpated with road densities
   above  1.7 miles per square miles (page 27, BTICG). The DEIS failed to exhibit the
   road density by project alternative.  The FEIS must  show the current and proposed
   road densities during project implementation for all the alternatives, Including within
   150-ft  RHCAs  on perennial, non-fish bearing streams  and 100-ft. RHCAs on
   intermittent  streams.     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,   Boise,  ID  -
   #15.64.21100.410)

   RESPONSE:
   Subwatershed road densities and over base sediment yields are disclosed by
   alternative  in the FEIS in Tables 3.35, 3.36, and 3.44.   Existing  riparian road
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   densities are shown in Tables 3.31 and 3.39. These figures are not expected to
   change much by alternative since all temporary roads are being decommissioned
   and few of the existing roads planned for decommissioning are located in riparian
   areas.
   The Interim  Conservation Guidance states that the document is not intended to
   provide site-specific land  management prescriptions, but is intended to provide
   recommendations that may be adapted to land  management activities (USFWS,
   December 1998).   This same report recognizes that reducing road miles,
   improving fish passage, decreasing water temperatures, and improving substrate
   and habitat complexity are all important in  recovering bull trout populations.  This
   FEIS contains actions designed to meet these needs (FEIS, Chapter 3, Section
   3.3).
                                   C3C303
F. INCLUDING A TABLE SHOWING ROAD DENSITY AMONG ALTERNATIVES FOR THE AMERICAN
   RIVER
   The draft EIS explains very well the deleterious impact that roads have on water
   quality and aquatic habitats.  Road densities are high in riparian habitat conservation
   areas in the Crooked River basin and the DEIS points out that it has more existing
   roads and past timber harvest on landslide prone terrain than the American River.
   Table 3. 14 indicates a slight change in road density in the Crooked River basin
   between the action alternatives and no action alternative. We recommend a similar
   table showing the change in road density among alternatives for the American River.
   (Federal Agency Official, Seattle, WA- #24. 18.211 00.410)
   RESPONSE: This information is located in the FEIS (and DEIS) in Table 3.31.
G. INCLUDING CLARIFICATION OF THE NUMBER OF MILES OF ROAD IMPROVEMENT AND
   WHERE THESE TREATMENTS WOULD OCCUR

   Table 0.1 indicates that the project includes  95 miles of road improvement for
   Alternative  D;  however, the same table under Watershed Restoration Package
   Improvements lists 15.8 miles of watershed road improvements.  It appears from the
   tables contained in Section D that improvements would be made on roads outside
   the project area  but  within the  South Fork  Clearwater  River  watershed.   We
   recommend that the final EIS clarify the number of miles of road improvement, and
   that the body of the report discuss where these treatments would occur.  (Federal
   Agency Official,  Seattle, WA - #24.4.21 100.410)

   RESPONSE:

   The miles of road improvement listed in Table 0.1 of the DEIS are not correct; it
   should read 90.5 instead of 95.  The corresponding footnote (2) is also in error.
   There is some ambiguity in the DEIS in the use of the terms road improvement
   versus watershed road improvement.  The  90.5  miles of road improvements
   consists of treatments designed primarily to facilitate hauling of logs, but some of
   the treatments would, at the same time, act to  improve  watershed health.  The
   15.8 miles  of watershed road improvements include  only  those miles  of road
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         treatments deemed to contribute to watershed restoration.  This has  been
         clarified with an additional footnote to Table 0.1 of the FEIS.
                                         oacsca

      H.  INCLUDING PAST EXAMPLES OF THE RANGE OF YEARS THAT TEMPORARY ROADS HAVE
         BEEN IN PLACE ON THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST. OR OTHER FORESTS IN THE
         REGION
         The scoping  document  states  that  temporary  roads   would  "normally"  be
         decommissioned within one to three years of construction.  This differs  from  the
         statement in the DEIS, which stated that these roads would be  decommissioned
         within  four years.   Please  cite examples  from the NPNF where  roads were
         decommissioned within  pledged timeframes,  as  well as examples  where  the
         timeframe was extended.  Please provide reasons for why these roads  were  not
         decommissioned in a timely manner.
         The FEIS needs to give past examples of the range of years that temporary roads
         have been in place on the NPNF, or other forests  in the region.   This will give a
         clearer picture of how long roads might be in place.  Given the increased flexibility in
         timber contracts, we fear that  these roads might be in place for several years and
         some 'atypical' high-risk roads may be present in degraded watersheds for up to a
         decade  or  more.    (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,  Boise,  ID -
         #15.68.21100.410)

         RESPONSE:
         Historically, past NEPA decisions allowed for temporary roads to be constructed,
         used, and obliterated in the same season. Implementation of these decisions
         found that it was the rare instance when a temporary road remained open for
         more than one operating season.
         It  has  only been in the  last few years that  NEPA decisions have stated that
         temporary roads may be open for one to three years.  Through timber sale
         contract implementation, again, it will be the rare case  that a temporary road will
         remain  open  for more than one  season.  While the  1 to  3 year timing  does
         provide more flexibility to a logging contractor, they normally do not want to have
         the additional expense of meeting mitigations necessary to keep road open over
         the winter.  The majority of the time, they will still construct, use, and obliterate in
         the same season.
                                     C# (X C8 OS O* O*

120.  The Nez Perce National Forest should have used their Roads Analysis
      Process in the Draft EIS.
      Roads often have devastating impacts on water quality and fish habitat by increasing
      landslides,  erosion, and siltation of streams.  Roads also fragment forests and degrade
      or eliminate habitat for species  that depend on remote  landscapes,  such as grizzly
      bears, wolves, and other large, wide-ranging predators (Trombulak and Frissell 2000).
      The DEIS should have used the Roads Analysis Process. However,  this analysis  has
      yet to be  completed by the  Nez Perce National  Forest.  (Preservation/Conservation
      Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.74.40220.410)
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      RESPONSE:
      A roads analysis consistent with the requirements of section 7712.13c of Forest Service
      Manual 7700  (FSM  7700) - Transportation System  was conducted  as part  of this
      project.  All roads within the project area that were deemed not essential for future
      management of the affected areas,  and the decommissioning of which would  benefit
      watershed  health,  as  well  as   improve  habitat  for  wildlife,  were  proposed  for
      decommissioning.

      Please refer to response to comment 111(C).
                                      CJ OS (S3 (18 CS (S3

121.  The Nez Perce National Forest should examine how this project will affect
      snowmobile use in and adjacent to the project area.

      If the Forest Service is unable to demonstrate their capability to manage recreational use
      of these roads,  no new roads, even temporary  ones,  should be constructed.  The
      analysis should a/so examine this project will affect snowmobile use in, and adjacent to
      the  project   area.      (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID   -
      #15.56.41100.501)

      RESPONSE:

      No changes are being planned to managing illegal road use. No changes in snowmobile
      use anticipated unless a reroute is needed to mitigate winter hauling on an established
      groomed trail.
                                      (S3 CS (33 (33 08 C*

122.  The Nez Perce National Forest should recognize the impact of increased
      road densities.

      Previous management  activities have resulted in excessive road densities throughout
      our National  Forests, including the  Nez  Perce National Forest, and  specifically the
      Crooked River and American River watersheds. This density compromises the project
      area's  ability to support wildlife  and fish by promoting further human  disturbance,
      fragmenting habitat, accelerating sedimentation, and encouraging ORV use.

      RESPONSE:

      The effects of past management activities, as well as road densities, are described in
      the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.11.  Restoration activities associated with this project
      include  reducing  the  amount of  roads  within the project area,  which  are also
      discussed in this Section.

      The  FEIS,  Chapter 3,  Section 3.3,  Tables 3.61  and 3.65 (miles  of stream with
      improved access), highlight that this action, with the restoration activities, actually
      improves fish access to both perennial and intermittent streams.

      The  roads actions in  the American and  Crooked River Project decommissions
      significant miles of existing roads and  should be  recognized for  the measure of
      positive habitat restoration generated for numerous species.  The temporary roads
      being built for the project will all be decommissioned and thus do not add to the road
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  density.   Past road  density  impacts  and  related cumulative effects  analysis
  discussions for affected terrestrial wildlife are in the FEIS, Chapter 3.
                                  csososososos

  SECTION 9 - VEGETATION

123. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD RESTORE NATURAL
     DISTURBANCE PROCESSES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOREST PLAN

  A. BY ALLOWING PINE BEETLE INFESTATIONS AND WILDFIRES TO OCCUR
     One of the tenets  of the Plan /s to "restore  natural disturbance  processes where
     feasible."  Considering  this, the mountain pine beetle infestations and wildfires
     should be allowed  to a certain extent to meet the Forest Plan. This is particularly
     relevant due to the fact that it is acknowledged that lethal fires would be normal for
     these fire regimes in the area.  (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise, ID -
     #15.46.10400.160)

     RESPONSE:
     This project is treating less than  nine  percent of  the analysis area.    The
     disturbance process of insect infestation is occurring on many of the untreated
     acres.  The natural fire process is likely to occur on the untreated areas (refer to
     Alternatives Maps in Appendix A). There are also more than a million  acres in
     wilderness and many thousands of acres in roadless areas that have not been
     managed and are in a natural state (excluding fire suppression).

     The Forest Plan and Fire Management Plan currently do not allow for Wildland
     Fire Use (WFU) within any portion of the project area.  Without the authority for
     WFU all fire ignitions within the project area require a suppression  response and
     cannot be allowed to play it's natural role.
                                      OSO80S
  B. BY ALLOWING FIRE TO OCCUR AS A NATURAL PART OF FOREST SUCCESSION AND NOT
     USING HIGH INTENSITY FOREST MANAGEMENT
     We believe that high intensity forest manipulation as you are proposing, which is
     really designed to replace  natural  fire, will not lend  towards restoring  functional
     ecosystems. Rather, logging activities will disrupt the natural forest succession.  Fire
     is a natural and essential component of forest ecosystems, and the presence of
     naturally functioning wildland fire indicates a high degree of ecosystem function.
     This is particularly true in the American and  Crooked River drainages which have
     significant portions oflodgepole pine, spruce and other high elevation trees in higher
     elevation  landscapes.   Beschta et a/.,  7995 sfate, "Land  managers should be
     managing for  the naturally evolving ecosystems, rather than perpetuating  artificial
     ones  we have attempted  to  create."   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
     Moscow, ID - #22.5.11200.277)
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   RESPONSE:
   This project responds to public input received from people who use and  reside
   within the project and surrounding area.  Refer to FEIS, Chapter 1, Section 1.5
   Please refer to the Purpose and Need and Forest Plan direction from the FEIS,
   Chapter 1 , Section 3. The Forest Plan and Fire Management Plan currently do
   not allow  for Wildland Fire Use (WFU) within  any  portion of the project area.
   Without the authority for WFU, all fire ignitions  within the project area require a
   suppression response and can not be allowed to play its natural role.
C. BY REMOVING IMPEDIMENTS TO NATURAL RECOVERY

   Goals for the area include fully functioning stream ecosystems that include healthy,
   resilient populations of native trout and salmon.  The highest priority management
   actions in the project area are those that remove impediments to natural recovery.
   The  task of management  should be the reversal of artificial  legacies to allow
   restoration of natural,  self-sustaining ecosystem processes.  If natural disturbance
   patterns  are  the best way  to maintain or restore desired ecosystem values, then
   nature should be able to accomplish this task very well without human intervention
   (Frissell and Bayles, 1996).   That is why we requested a real restoration alternative
   that did not log or build roads.
   We conclude this section of the comment letter with this passage from Frissell and
   Bayles (1996):

   Most philosophies  and approaches for ecosystem management put forward
   to date  are  limited (perhaps doomed)  by a  failure to acknowledge and
   rationally address the overriding problems of uncertainty and ignorance about
   the mechanisms by which complex ecosystems respond to human  actions.
   They lack humility and historical perspective about science and about our
   past failures in management. They still implicitly subscribe to the scientifically
   discredited illusion that humans  are fully in control  of  an ecosystemic
   machine  and can foresee and manipulate all the possible consequences of
   particular actions while deliberately altering the ecosystem to produce only
   predictable, optimized and socially desirable outputs. Moreover, despite our
   well-demonstrated  inability to prescribe and forge institutional arrangements
   capable of successfully implementing the principles and practice of integrated
   ecosystem management over a sustained time  frame an at sufficiently large
   spatial  scales,   would-be   ecosystem   managers  have   neglected  to
   acknowledge and critically analyze past institutional and policy failures.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Moscow, ID -#22.58. 11 200.330)

   They say we need ecosystem management because public opinion has changed,
   neglecting the obvious point that public  opinion has been  shaped  by  the glowing
   promises of past managers and by their clear and spectacular failure to deliver on
   such  promises.     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,   Moscow,   ID  -
   #22.59.11200.330)
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          RESPONSE:
          This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
          within the project and surrounding area. Refer to FEIS Chapter 1, Section 1.5.
          Please  refer also to the Purpose and Need and Forest Plan direction from the
          FEIS Chapter 1, pages 2-7.
                                      O3O3O3O30303

124.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider naturally occurring
      ecosystem function.
      A.  TO EXAMINE DISEASE ORGANISMS
          Some  species  of trees,  native insects, and disease organisms  are often
          described by the FS as invasive" or somehow bad for the ecosystem.  Such
          contentions that conditions  are somehow  "unnatural" runs counter to more
          enlightened thinking on such matters. For example, Harvey et al, 1994 state:
          Although  usually viewed as pesfs at the  tree and stand scale,  insects and
          disease organisms perform functions on a broader sca/e.
          Pesfs are a part of even the healthiest eastside ecosystems.  Pest roles-such as
          the removal of poorly adapted individuals, accelerated decomposition, and
          reduced stand density-may be critical to rapid ecosystem adjustment
          In  some  areas of the eastside  and  Blue Mountain  forests, at  least,  the
          ecosystem has been altered, setting the stage for high pest activity (Gast and
          others,  1991).   This increased  activity does not mean that the ecosystem is
          broken  or dying; rather, it is demonstrating functionality, as programmed during
          its  developmental   (evolutionary)  history.      (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.42.32510.370)

          RESPONSE:
          This project is treating less than 9 percent of the analysis area.  The disturbance
          process of insect infestation is occurring on many of the untreated acres.  The
          natural  fire process is likely to  occur on the untreated  areas.  There are also
          more than a million acres in wilderness and many thousands of acres in roadless
          areas that have not been managed and are in a natural state (excluding fire
          suppression).
          This project responds to public  input received from people who use and reside
          within the  project and  surrounding  area.  Please review the purpose and need
          and forest Plan direction from the DEIS Chapter 1 pages 2-7.
                                          (330303
       B.  BECAUSE INSECT INFESTATION AND FIRE ARE PART OF THE NATURAL STAND
          REPLACEMENT CYCLE
          The presence of some percentage of dying or at risk trees is not sufficient as a
          reason to log the entire stand. Not all Lodgepole Pine trees will succumb to the
          Mountain Pine Beetle and those that survive could potentially provide a genetic
          resistance to beetle in the future.  This genetic resistance to beetles would be
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          lost if the trees were logged.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
          ID-#15.14.34000.373)

          We are concerned with the statement that currently uninfected but "high risk"
          trees would be harvested given the fact that, "There is little opportunity to further
          prevent additional mountain pine beetle Lodgepole pine mortality in the Red
          River, Crooked River, and American River watersheds (Red River Salvage EA.
          p. 1).  This statement is based solely on short-term economic goals and has no
          ecological value: Mountain pine beetles prefer larger-diameter Lodgepole pine,
          implying that  all larger trees could  be harvested.   Further,  according  to
          discussions with leading forest pathologists, it is impossible to predict where
          Mountain Pine Beetles will go, and therefore these stands should not be logged.
          (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.116.34000.373)

          RESPONSE:
          This project is treating less than 9% of the analysis area.  The disturbance
          process of insect infestation is occurring on many of the  untreated acres.  The
          natural fire  process is likely to occur on the  untreated areas.  There are also
          more than a million acres in wilderness and many thousands of acres in roadless
          areas that have  not been  managed and are in  a natural state  (excluding  fire
          suppression)
          Trees are  prescribed to be  left  in  all  stands  if still alive to  meet green tree
          replacements for snags. If the trees have dwarf mistletoe they are to be removed to
          prevent infection of the regeneration.  I have seen no literature on  genetic resistance
          to beetle. The beetle epidemic currently covers- the  entire analysis area and  the
          majority of high risk stands have mortality.
                                      OH OS OS OS OS OS

125.  The Nez Perce National Forest should use best available science to define
      historical ranges of variability (HRV) and to justify  characterizations of
      current forest conditions and  disturbance regimes.

      A.  BY ADHERING TO NATIONAL FOREST MANAGEMENT ACT (NFMA) DEFINITIONS OF
          " RANGE OF VARIATION"
          It becomes  very difficult to subscribe to the DES arguments when the definitions are
          not precise.  For this discussion, let us use a definition of range of variability as found
          in the  20(X)  NFMA  regulations  (currently in stasis  due  to  the  administration's
          politics).  The definition may be  instructive to the writers of the DES.  Range of
          variability is defined here at Sec. 21936 as:

          "The expected range of variation in ecosystem composition, and structure that would
          be expected under natural disturbance regimes in the current climatic period.   These
          regimes include the type, frequency,  severity, and magnitude of  disturbance in  the
          absence of fire suppression and extensive commodity extraction."
          Current climatic period is further defined as:

          "The period of time since establishment of the modem major vegetation  types, which
          typically encompass the late Holocene Epoch including the present, including likely
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   climatic conditions  within the planning period.   The climatic period is typically
   centuries to millennia in length,  a period of time that is long enough to encompass
   the variability that species and ecosystems have experienced." (Id.)
   To  paraphrase the  definition, for a project to claim that an area is outside of the
   range of variability, according to the 2000 NFMA definition, it would need to make the
   case that the area has not seen current conditions in a length of time encompassing
   the late Holocene Epoch- a period of centuries to millennia in length.  The DEIS
   utterly fails to make the case that the current vegetative condition failed to exist at
   any time within the late Holocene Epoch.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Moscow, ID - #22.33.13100.133)

   RESPONSE:
   A characterization of range of variability within a given time scale requires historical
   data with enough statistical integrity  to be meaningful.   Although there are a few
   historical records mostly in narrative form, comparing those records with the current
   data set is arbitrary at best due to changing definitions of terms.  At best, those
   records extend back to 1860. Therefore, to attempt to manage within the range of
   the Holocene Epoch would encompass such fluctuation and variability as to be
   meaningless.  This  project is not based on range of variability and does not rely on
   conjecture  as to the former vegetative  state of the area.  Instead, the treatments
   proposed are designed to promote the health and vigor of timber stands and improve
   the environment for  long-lived, fire resistant species.
                                   oaoaea

B. BY RECOGNIZING THAT DEFINITIONS OF HRV SHOULD BE BASED ON DATA FROM
   EXTENDED TIME PERIODS
   In the mid-1800s, the event known as the Little Ice Age was ending. It may be that
   climatic change made conditions for fires like those in the early 1900s which to occur
   and become the major determinants  of the landscape of today.  It is also possible
   that fires like those in the past century occurred on more than one occasion since the
   retreat of the glaciers.   Paleoecological research shows the importance of climate
   change in governing vegetation (Webb and Bartlein 1992).
   Vegetation changes seem to lag behind  climate change (Johnson et al.  1994).
   When  looking at the bigger picture that takes into account climatic shifts, and not
   some narrow, snapshot-in-time view, the concept of a normal fire frequency may not
   be  valid. (Walder 1995). Research being conducted by Grant Meyer and others on
   the Boise National  Forest shows this to be the case.  In that case, it appears big
   stand replacing events occurred in ponderosa pine forests between 900 and 1200
   due to climatic conditions.
   Given climate change and the very real possibility that site potential for various types
   have changed (soil  pH and chemistry, moisture, soil temperature)  because of it, the
   view of HRV on anything less than a time scale that takes into account climate shifts
   may be inadequate.  That is especially true given  the  dramatic and scientifically
   documented increases in global temperature over the  past few  years.  The  past
   decade was the warmest on record.   Again, the DEIS and supporting documents do
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   not define the HRV so it is impossible to assess the assumptions behind the HRV.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.36.13100,260)

   The DEIS's apparent definition  of HRV  seems  very narrow,  without  conclusive
   justification and focusing mainly on ponderosa pine types. The SFLA notes much of
   the analysis area is outside the HRV and the DEIS implies this is because of fire
   suppression (NOTE: The SFLA is not completely clear on the current conditions and
   their causes, there is equivocation and inconsistency in that document) yet it would
   seem the DEIS maintains that the big fires of the early 1900s, natural events as far
   as we know, put this area outside the HRV. Thus, it would appear the HRV ought to
   be  able  to  account for these events.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Moscow, ID - #22.34.13100.277)
   What range of time is being used to determine HRV and  is it long enough  to be
   accurate?  What proof is there to refute scientific findings  that  forest conditions in
   1850 or 1900 were only a  few frames  and not representative of an  ecological
   perspective that should be from two to three thousand years in  length (see Walder
   1995 and Johnson et. al 1994)?

   The steady-state theory of ecology is inappropriate for time scales more than 200
   years in length. (Webb and Bartlein 1992) Certainly, the goal is to have national
   forests in perpetuity.  A time frame of 200 years only takes us back to Lewis and
   Clark, a time not so distant when the Nez Perce National Forest was considered
   pad of the public domain of the USA by the federal government (though disputed
   with the  British) just as it is  today.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Moscow, ID - #22.35.13100.330)

   RESPONSE
   Refer to response to comment  125.   A  review of recent literature which
   documents  vegetative changes  during the Holocene Epoch  (Brunelle  and
   Whitlock, 2002; Mayewski, et al, 2004; Davis ef a/; 2002) that wide fluctuations
   have  occurred in species composition, density, and fire regimes.  The purpose
   and need (Section 1.3) does not use HRV as an analysis parameter.
                                   050*08

C. BY DESCRIBING THE FACTORS. SUCH AS FIRE AND INSECTS. ASSUMED TO BE AFFECTING
   STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS OVER TIME.
   Any forest condition that is maintained through intense mechanical manipulation is
   not maintaining  ecosystem function.   We request site-specific disclosure  of the
   historical data used to arrive at any assumption of "desired conditions." We don't
   believe the proposed management activities are designed  to foster the  processes
   that naturally shaped the ecosystem and resulted in a range of natural structural
   conditions,  they  are merely designed to recreate  what the agency believes were
   structural conditions in  a single point in time that the  FS considers "natural."
   Generally, past process regimes are better understood than past forest structure.
   How are you factoring in fire, insects, tree diseases, and other natural disturbances
   in specifying the structural conditions you assume to be representative of the historic
   range? (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.38.13100.330)
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          RESPONSE:

          This project responds to public input received from people who use and reside
          within  the project and surrounding area (refer to FEIS, Chapter 1, Section 1.5.
          Please review the purpose and need and forest Plan direction from  the  FEIS
          Chapter 1, Section 3.
                                       as as as as o* e*

126.  The Final EIS should define the terms " dying" and " at risk".

      The FEIS needs  to clearly define the following terms: "dying" and "at risk to Mountain
      Pine Beetle attack" (Page  III).   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise,  ID -
      #15.13.21100.001)
      RESPONSE:
      The term "dying" refers to the cessation of transport  of water and nutrients within a tree.
      The first sign  of beetle-caused  mortality is generally discolored  foliage. Needles on
      successfully infested trees begin fading  and changing color several months to 1 year
      after the trees have been attacked. The needles change from green to yellowish green,
      then sorrel, red, and  finally rusty brown. Fading  begins  in  the  lower crown  and
      progresses upward. Besides having pitch tubes, successfully infested trees will  have dry
      boring  dust, similar to fine sawdust, in bark crevices and around the  base of  the tree.
      Sometimes, however, infested trees can have boring dust,  but not pitch tubes. These
      trees, called blind attacks, are common during drought years when trees  produce  little
      pitch. When the beetles attack, they carry blue-staining fungi into the  tree. After one to
      several months, the sapwood begins to discolor.
      The term  "at risk to Mountain Pine Beetle attack" refers  to any species of pinus. In the
      American  and Crooked River project area  the  majority  of the  pinus is lodgepole pine.
      Beetles usually select larger lodgepole pines  that have  thick phloem. They need
      adequate  food,  found in large- diameter trees, for their population to build up.  After the
      larger lodgepole pines are killed, beetles  infest smaller and smaller trees, where phloem
      is thin  and excessive drying  occurs. Beetle populations then decline to endemic levels.
      High-risk  lodgepole pine  stands  have an average  age  of more than 80, an  average
      diameter at breast height of more than  8 inches (20 cm), and a suitable climate for
      beetle  development based on elevation and latitude.
      In second-growth ponderosa pine, high-risk stands have a high stand basal area, a
      single story, and an average  diameter at breast height more than 10 inches (25 cm).

                                       (S3 08 (S3 (S3 (33 03

      Timber Management

127.  The Nez  Perce  National Forest should not harvest timber.

      A.  In particular, I oppose plans to log in the East Fork of the American River and
          Kirks Fork.  (Individual, Seattle, WA-#8.2.34000.001)
          I am of the  opinion that logging will continue to damage this area. (Individual,
          Minneapolis, MN - #17.2.34000.200)
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    We believe that the large amount of road construction and salvage harvests
   proposed are completely inappropriate  given  the degraded condition of this
   drainage.      (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,    Boise,   ID
   #15.2.34000.247)

   RESPONSE:

   The proposed logging in the American  and  Crooked  River project is one method
   which can be used to respond to the Purpose and Need (refer to FEIS, Chapter 1,
   Section 1.3). Briefly, the purpose of the project is to reduce existing and potential
   forest fuels, create conditions that will contribute to sustaining long-lived fire tolerant
   tree species (ponderosa pine, western larch) and contribute to the economic and
   social well-being of people who use and reside within the surrounding area.

   The analysis of each  alternative displays  the  effects  to  various resources.
   Standards  and  guidelines from the  Forest Plan  will maintain  effects  within
   accepted limits  of change  (refer  to  Regulatory Framework.   The proposed
   restoration projects and mitigations will offset any potential damage from logging
   and result in an upward trend for the watersheds as a whole.
                                    O3OSO3

B. BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING AND ROADBUILDING DESTROY THE ECOSYSTEM

   1.   Road building and logging destroy ecosystems.  (Individual,  Loveland, CO -
       #12.4.34000.201)

       RESPONSE:

       Analysis  of  the effects of  the proposed  actions on  various  resources
       demonstrate that the project will help restore landscape patterns which have
       been fragmented from past actions. Ecosystem processes and functions will
       remain intact.

       With  respect to terrestrial wildlife, some of the impacts to wildlife will be
       positive  including  improvement of elk  habitat effectiveness.  Reductions  in
       miles of road, which is also part of this project, will offer restorative habitat
       quality improvements for other species as  well.

       of this project, will offer restorative  habitat quality improvements for other
       species as well.
                                03 0303030303
   2.   I understand that the Forest Service is proposing to build some  14 miles of
       new  roads  and log thousands  of acres.  The  Forest  Service has  good
       intentions to help improve the watershed, and I think that other options need
       to be considered before logging.  Please  don't let the road-building and
       logging take place.  (Individual, Pullman, WA - #33.2.34000.247)

       RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged
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      C.  BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING SPEEDS UP THE PROGRESS OF FIRE AND COMPROMISES
          SOIL QUALITY

          Logging the biggest and strongest trees speeds up the progress of a fire and
          compromises soil quality. (Individual, Loveland, CO-#12.2.34000.002)

          RESPONSE:
          The biggest, strongest  trees which appear to be most resistant to effects  of  a
          changing climate are the trees that  will remain in  the treated areas,  Refer to the
          objectives portion of Chapter 1, Section 1.3.
                                         OSO3OS

      D.  BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING DOES NOT REDUCE FIRE DANGER
          / invite  you to review the quotes I have supplied in the Appendix [ATTMT:1].
          Some are  from government  documents and some are from  environmental
          groups.  All are valid.  They all relate to  why logging, timber harvest, and
          mechanical fuel removal actually increase the fire risk in the forest.  I will expect
          a response to each quote in  our FEIS  telling me: 1) why the quote does not
          apply to your project, and/or,  2) why the science (which was  the basis for the
          quote) is incorrect.  All of the quotes say that logging large commercial sized
          stems does not reduce fire danger. In fact, some of the quotes say that due to
          the small activity fuels left after logging, commercial logging actually increases
          fire danger.  (Individual, Grangeville, ID - #30.13.34000.270)
          The activities  (road construction and salvage harvest)  described do  little to
          protect  homes and communities from fire in any meaningful way, and may in
          fact exacerbate fire danger, severity and intensity.  (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Boise, ID - #15.4.34000.271)

          RESPONSE:
          This project's purpose is to reduce fuels at the individual treatment site and also
          at the watershed levels.  Other projects such as Crooked River Defensible Space
          are designed specifically to protect structures. The way this project is designed it
          will help to protect other critical resources such as  wildlife habitat,  water quality,
          recreation opportunities, and infrastructures  such as roads and bridges to name
          a few.
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128.  The Nez Perce National Forest should harvest timber.

      A.  BECAUSE WILDLAND FIRE CAN LEAD TO INCREASED SEDIMENT LOADS
          / understand some sediment may find its way into the creeks and rivers from the
          logging and road building.  This situation is only short-term,  however,  and is
          much preferred to the stream-choking mud slides that frequently happen after a
          wildfire burns off the vegetation and sterilizes the soil. (Individual, Lewiston, ID -
          #7.2.34000.230)
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   RESPONSE:
   Comparing the sediment produced by  road building and harvest to sediment
   from a potential wildfire is a complicated task.  Some of the factors that need to
   be considered:

   •   Logging and harvest effects are relatively known quantities, predictable in
       extent, time  and location.   Severe storm years can heighten impacts of
       logging and road building.  Permanent roads do produce peak sediment for
       a  few years  after construction, and continue to produce chronic  levels of
       sediment throughout their life.  Sediment from most  harvest units typically
       declines to negligible after  5 years (Cline,  et a/, 1981). Modeled effects of
       sediment due to past wildfires, road building and logging are shown in the
       watershed section of the FEIS. These estimates indicate that although peak
       sediment from fires was high, chronically elevated  sediment from roads
       continues to affect watersheds in the project area.

   •   Sediment  effects from  any  particular fire are  influenced by  fire size,
       severity, and location, interaction with existing road systems or susceptible
       soils,  and  intense storms  or rapid spring  runoff during the  1-10 years
       following wildfire (Wondzell and  King  2003).   Large  severe fires  in the
       project area occur under a combination of drought, high temperatures, low
       humidity,  and  strong winds (Schoennagel  et  a/., 2004).  Under these
       conditions, scattered fuel treatments may have slight effects on overall fire
       size and severity. This means that such a fire could occur even with the
       proposed harvest, so effects of fire might not be  averted by harvest and
       road building, but compounded.

   •   Under more moderate  burning  conditions, fires could  be  more  easily
       suppressed,  and potential  fire size reduced, by using harvest  areas as
       control points and fuel breaks. This is part of the rationale for the proposed
       harvest and fuel reduction.  See Section 3.4.2.

   •   Effects on streams  from fires and  road building are complex in time and
       space.  Road  building generally  produces fine sediments, and  may  little
       affect  flow quantity,  so that streambeds are more susceptible to filling of
       pools and spawning gravels with sand and silt.  Fire effects on streams can
       vary  from  negligible to  dramatic,  short-lived  to long  term.   Aquatic
       researchers  now acknowledge the important  role of natural  wildfires in
       structuring stream habitats, providing not only fine sediments, but also large
       wood  and large sediments (Bisson  ef a/.,  2003).   Fires also may result in
       increased flows that arrange these materials in the stream to build pools and
       spawning gravels.  Some  effects can  be negative, especially considered
       over the short term, when individual  fish  may be killed,  fine  sediments
       increased, or channels scoured in tributaries.
B. BECAUSE IT WILL ASSIST THE LOCAL ECONOMY

   The logging will add to the local economy and provide enough lumber to build
   some  1,500  average-sized  family homes.    (Individual,  Lewiston,   ID -
   #7.4.34000.814)
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    We believe cut levels can be increased to better accomplish project objectives,
    and improve the economics of the project.  (Timber/Wood Products Industry,
    Kamiah, ID - #5. 18.34300.800)

    RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged
                                    08 CUC*
C.  BECAUSE TIMBER HARVESTING INCREASES OPENINGS AND CREATES BIG GAME FORAGE
    The Concerned Sportsmen of Idaho believes that more trees could and should
    be harvested to increase the openings in closed  forest canopy areas so that
    grasses,  forbs and brush can  be grown to create much-needed elk forage.
    (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Viola, ID - #2.2.34300.330)

    RESPONSE:
    There are a number of issues and considerations  that had to be integrated  into
    the proposal to limit impacts on resources.  The increased habitat effectiveness
    resulting  from overall  reduction in miles of open roads  and reduced  human
    disturbances will benefit elk.
D. TO EXPAND TIMBER VOLUME FOR BIG GAME

   1 .  The timber harvest units remove only an average of 8.6 MBF/acre, bringing
      into question whether enough volume is being removed to open crown
      canopies to sufficiently reduce competition and encourage big game forage
      production.  We further question if the removal of only 1.3 MBF/acre in the
      roadside salvage  will accomplish objectives.    (Timber/Wood Products
      Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.8.34300.330)

      RESPONSE:

      The intensity of planned  harvests along with  liberal  use  of  prescription fire
      afterward, will serve to stimulate resprouting and growth of additional nutritious
      forage for big game  in most units.  In the roadside  salvage, the more limited
      removal of standing timber was planned in part, to incorporate  some protection
      for minimal amounts of hiding cover along roads which would generate additional
      forage without sacrificing large amounts of hiding cover adjacent to roads.
                                   (JiSdSOS
   2.  While creating elk forage on the spectrum of range referred to above, the
      CERT (Clearwater Elk Recovery  Team)  encourages you to expand the
      timber volume taken so as to insure [sic] that openings in the forest are
      numerous enough to accomplish  the task for depleted elk herds while
      remaining    within     Forest   Plan     old     growth     standards.
      (Recreation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID -#1.4.34300. 350)

      RESPONSE:

      A number of issues and considerations had to be  integrated into the proposal,
      not just producing elk forage. The intensity of planned harvests along with liberal
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             use of prescription fire afterward, will serve to stimulate resprouting and growth of
             additional nutritious forage for big game in  most units.  Forest plan old growth
             standards for old growth will be met.
                                       (3$ OS US C8 OS OS

129.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider research that addresses
      timber harvest.

      A.  BECAUSE RESEARCH ADDRESSES POST-HARVEST SLASH DISPOSAL

          Research from the Hayman Fire (2002) has determined that pine needles, if not
          burned by the fire, can provide significant protection to the soil surface  when
          they fall to  the ground (Interim and Final Hayman Fire Case  Study Analyses,
          2002 & 2003). By applying regeneration harvests, the  beneficial impact of this
          material is not realized.  Instead, slash is deposited on the ground and burned in
          piles,  thereby vastly  increasing the potential for soil erosion  and subsequent
          sedimentation of critical spawning habitat for ESA listed species.

          Post-logging  slash disposal is  critical  and a  number of factors should  be
          considered in the project design and implementation. Machine and jackpot burn
          piles restricted, and  if necessitated, should be evenly distributed throughout
          logging units. Large piles create excessive heat, create potassium and nitrogen
          overloading in small areas,  and can negatively  impact soil resources. Smaller
          piles,  evenly distributed,  or broadcast burning  is preferred.   However,  the
          burning of these materials still can contribute to significant erosion problems on
          the  forest.     (Preservation/Conservation    Organization,    Boise,   ID
          #15.105.34400.201)

          RESPONSE:

          Design criteria will be incorporated into silvicultural  prescriptions,  which will
          include the method/amount of retention and/or removal  of materials.  In addition,
          contract clauses will include design  criteria that limit the  size, location,  and
          structure of  piles.  Furthermore,  site-specific burn plans  will  be  developed for
          each burn unit.  This will include pre-ignition analysis of factors such as wind
          speed, humidity,  temperature,  slope,  aspect   and  duff moisture.    Ignitions
          performed under these conditions would limit the detrimental effects  to residual
          stands and the soil resource.
          Post  harvest  slash  disposal,  broadcast and  jackpot  burning,  is  typically
          accomplished during  times of the year when duff moistures are high enough to
          prevent the total consumption of the duff.  The duff that  remains provides soil
          protection against runoff,  and continues to provide nutrient cycling to the  soil.
          Machine piles located within the unit are typically smaller in size and distributed
          fairly evenly throughout the units.
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B. BECAUSE RESEARCH INDICATES TIMBER HARVESTING. ROADS. AND OTHER HUMAN
   DISTURBANCES PROMOTE THE SPREAD OF TREE DISEASE AND INSECT INFESTATION
   The FS often makes a case for logging as a way to reduce insect and disease
   damage to timber stands As far as we  are  aware,  the FS has no empirical
   evidence to indicate its "treatments" for "forest  health" decrease, rather than
   increase, the incidence of insects and diseases in the forest.  Since the  FS
   doesn't cite research that proves otherwise in this DEIS we can only conclude
   that "forest health" discussions are unscientific and biased toward logging as a
   "solution."  Please consider the large body of research that indicates logging,
   roads,  and  other human  caused  disturbance  promote  the spread  of tree
   diseases and insect infestation.

   For  example,  multiple  studies have shown  that  annosus  root  disease
   (Heterobasidion annosum,  formerly named  Fomes  annosus),  a fungal root
   pathogen that is often fatal or damaging for pine, fir, and hemlock in western
   forests, has increased in western forests as  a result of logging (Smith  1989).
   And researchers have noted that the incidence of annosus root disease in true
   fir and ponderosa pine stands increased with the number of logging entries
   (Goheen and Goheen 1989).  Large stumps served as infection foci for the
   stands,  although significant mortality was not  obvious until  10 to 15 years after
   logging (Id).

   The proportion  of western  hemlock trees infected by annosus root disease
   increased after pre-commercial thinning, due to infection of stumps and logging
   equipment wounds (Edmonds et al 1989, Chavez, et al. 1980).

   Armillaria, a primary, aggressive root pathogen of pines, true firs, and Douglas-
   fir in western interior forests, spreads into healthy stands from the stumps and
   roots of cut trees  (Wargo and Shaw 1985). The fungus colonizes stumps and
   roots of cut trees,  then spreads to adjacent healthy trees.  Roots of large trees
   in particular can support the fungus for many years because they are moist and
   large enough for  the fungus to survive,  and disease centers can expand to
   several hectares in size, with greater than 25% of the trees affected in a stand
   (id) Roth et al. (1980) also noted that Armillaria was present in stumps of old-
   growth ponderosa pine logged up to 35 years earlier, with the  oldest stumps
   having the highest rate of infection.
   Filip (1979) observed that mortality of saplings was significant correlated to the
   number of Douglas-fir stumps infected with Armillaria me/tea and  laminated root
   rot (Phellinus weirii). McDonald, et al. (1987)  concluded the pathogenic fungus
   Armillaria had a threefold higher occurrence  on disturbed plots compared to
   pristine plots at high productivity sites in the Northern Rockies.   Those authors
   also reviewed  past  studies  on  Armillaria,   noting  a  clear  link between
   management and  the severity of Armillaria-caused disease.
   Morrison and Mallett (1996) observed that infection and mortality from the root
   disease Armillaria ostoyae  was several times  higher in forest stands with
   logging disturbance than in undisturbed stands, and that adjacent residual trees
   as well as new  regeneration  became infected when their roots came into
   contact with roots  from infected stumps.
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Pre-commercial  thinning and soil disturbance led to an  increased risk  of
infection and mortality by black- stain root disease (Leptographium wageneri) in
Douglas-fir, with the majority of infection centers being close to roads and skid
trails (Hansen et al. 1988) Also another Black-stain root disease (Verticicladiella
wagenerii) occurred at a greater frequency in Douglas-fir trees close to roads
than in trees located 25 in or more from roads (Hansen 1978).  Witcosky et al.
(1986) also noted that pre-commercially thinned stands attracted  a greater
number of black-stain root disease insect vectors.
Complex interactions involve  mechanical damage from logging, infestation by
root diseases,  and attacks by insects.  Aho et al.  (1987) saw that mechanical
wounding of grand fir and white fir by logging equipment  activated dormant
decay fungi, including the Indian paint fungus (Echinodontium tinctorium).

Trees stressed by logging,  and therefore more susceptible to root diseases are,
in turn,  more susceptible to  attack by insects.   Goheen and Hansen (1993)
reviewed  the  association  between  pathogenic fungi and bark beetles  in
coniferous  forests, noting that root  disease  fungi  predispose some conifer
species to bark beetle attack and/or help maintain endemic populations of bark
beetles.
Goheen and Hansen (1993)  observed that live trees infected with Laminated
root rot (Phellinus weirii)  have a  greater likelihood of attack by Douglas-fir
beetles  (Dendroctonus pseudotsugae).  Also,  Douglas- fir trees weakened by
Black-stain root disease (Leptographium wageneri var. pseudotsugae) are
attacked and killed by a variety of bark beetle species, including the Douglas-fir
bark  beetle  (D.  pseudotsugae)  and  the Douglas-fir  engraver  (Scolytus
unispinosis) (id.).
The root disease Leptographium  wageneri var.  ponderosurn  predisposes
ponderosa  pine  to several bark beetle  species, including the mountain pine
beetle (D. ponderosae) and the western pine beetle (D. brevicomis) (Goheen
and Hansen 1993).
A  variety of root diseases, including black-slain, Armillaria,  and brown cubical
butt rot  (Phaeolus schweinitzii).   predispose  lodgepole pine to  attack by
mountain pine beetles in the interior west The diseases  are also believed  to
provide stressed host trees that help maintain endemic populations of mountain
pine beetle or trigger population increases at the start of an  outbreak (Goheen
and Hansen 1993).
Grand and white fir trees in interior mixed-conifer forests have been found  to
have  a high likelihood of attack  by the fir engraver (Scolytus ventralis) when
they are infected by  root diseases, such as laminated root  rot, Armillaria, and
annosus (Goheen and Hansen 1993).
More western pine  beetles  (Dendroetonus breviformis)  and  mountain pine
beetles  (D. ponderosae) were captured on trees infected by black-stain root
disease (Ceratocystis wageneri) than on uninfected trees (Goheen et al. 1985).
The two species of beetle were more frequently attracted to wounds on trees
that were also diseased than  to uninfected trees.  They also noted that the red
turpentine beetle (Dendroctonus valens) attacked trees at wounds, with attack
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          rates seven-to-eight times higher on trees infected with black-stain root disease
          than uninfected trees.  Spondylis upiformis attacked only wounded trees,  not
          unwounded trees.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID  -
          #22.46.34000.373)

          RESPONSE:

          Comment acknowledged.

          The  stands proposed for  treatment  are  susceptible and  contain  some of  the
          pathogens and insects described. Most have a negative growth value (more dying
          than growing)  and are in  a state of decline. The purpose of the project is to reduce
          existing and potential forest fuels, create conditions that will contribute to sustaining
          long-lived fire tolerant tree species (ponderosa pine, western  larch).  Refer to FEIS,
          Chapter 1, Section 1.3.  Ponderosa  pine and western larch are the forest tree
          species most resistant to fire, insects, and diseases found in the project area.

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130.  The Nez Perce National Forest should focus  on stands farthest outside the
      historic range.

      The Forest Service should focus on those stands  that are  the farthest outside of the
      historic range (i.e. the 3.2% of the project area that exhibits frequent, non-lethal  fire
      regimes). (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID-#15.96.33000.277)

      RESPONSE:

      Comment acknowledged.  Historic range is a concept based on scale (e.g., temporal
      and spatial).   Only focusing only on the  stands that are farthest outside  of their
      historic range would not fulfill  the purpose of this project - which is related to reducing
      existing and potential forest fuels by removing the  dead,  dying,  and downed trees
      that would otherwise result in  high fuel loadings
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131.   The Nez Perce National Forest should conduct an  inventory of the types
      and sizes of downed woody material.

      Fallen  snags that  lean against other trees serve as important subnivean access points
      for mesocarnivores such as Fisher and American Marten. An inventory of the types and
      sizes  of  downed  woody  material  should  be   included   in  the   treatments.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.129.30100.330)

      RESPONSE:

      Over the next 10  years or so, many thousands of  acres of unharvested lodgepole
      pine will progressively convert to snags, most of which will fall, lean or "jackstraw"
      forming excellent  subnivean  habitat.  Given the vast amounts of dead and dying
      lodgepole pine in  the analysis  area, and  the fact  that  planned treatment acreage
      would fall far short of even 10 percent of the local landscape, the growth of important
      subnivean habitats formed by fallen  snags from many  acres of unharvested dead
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      and dying lodgepole pine will dwarf present amounts of this habitat condition, which
      would make an inventory at this time a relatively meaningless activity.
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132.   The Nez Perce National Forest should include contributions of woody
      debris from sources outside riparian areas when analyzing woody inputs.

      EPA recommends  that the analysis  of large woody debris in the final ETS include
      contributions from sources outside the  riparian areas.  While wood contributions from
      riparian reserves is critical, large wood originating outside of riparian areas is also a key
      to stream hydrology, fish habitat and water quality on Federal and downstream private
      lands.  Two large wood studies conducted in Western Oregon found that large wood
      inputs from near-stream riparian areas made up  only about half of the total, with  the
      other half coming from up-slope source areas farther from streams.  (Federal Agency
      Official, Seattle,  WA-#24.22.13110.244)

      RESPONSE:

      Review of the studies  mentioned and additional literature supplied by your agency
      highlight that the lands under study where large wood is supplied to streams from
      outside the RHCA  occur  mostly from landslides in areas subject to rain on snow
      events or in unstable landscapes. The  project area streams are not located in high
      risk landscapes  and rain on snow events are not a frequent event in American and
      Crooked Rivers.  Streamside and landslide prone RHCAs defined in Section 3.3 of
      the FEIS are designed to protect existing potential LWD in the project area.
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133.   The Nez Perce National Forest should use best available science to define
      Vegetative Response Units (VRUs)

      USING AGENCY LITERATURE ON WILDFIRE IN IDAHO

      One  of the biggest problems with  the  DEIS  is  the  inconsistent analysis lack  of
      comparability between  VRUs  (HVGs,  HTGs?) and habitat types.   For example, it
      becomes difficult, if not impossible,  to analyze the  VRUs in light of important information
      contained in agency literature on  wildfire in Northern Idaho  (see Smith and Fischer
      1997).  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.54.13100.270)

         RESPONSE:

         We have added a definition of Vegetation Response Units (VRUs) and habitat
         type groups  (HTGs) to the glossary and augmented the discussion of VRUs in
         the FEIS Section 3.10 Vegetation  - Analysis Methods. Between the DEIS and
         the FEIS we have adopted the habitat type groups used for the Idaho Cohesive
         Strategy (Jones, 2003).  Appendix N shows the Idaho Cohesive Strategy habitat
         type groups by habitat type, so that you can compare them to Kapler-Smith and
         Fischer's (1997) fire groups or Green et al. 1992 Old Growth habitat type groups.

         The habitat types are from existing classifications, including Cooper et al., 1992,
         and Steele et al., 1981. The habitat type groups used in the DEIS are from
         Applegate et al., 1995.  The habitat type groups used in the  FEIS are from Jones,
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          2003, except for the weeds analysis, which uses Applegate et al. It is admittedly
          difficult to track  all the  different habitat type  groups  developed for different
          purposes.  We can supply the data table of Jones' habitat type groups upon
          request.
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134.   The Nez Perce National Forest should define and implement diameter
      limits and spacing between crowns.

      A.  Larger diameter frees that are more resistant to ground fire should be ten behind.
          The Forest Service needs to define and implement diameter limits and  spacing
          between crowns for each treatment.  Dead and dying Lodgepole pine stands that are
          beyond the range of current road systems should be left to regenerate naturally,  or
          provide opportunities for climax species, in order  to maintain natural  ecological
          cycles.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.117.34400.201)
          Ground-based logging systems and excavator piling of slash should be minimized,
          and higher intensity landscape burns should be considered to prevent  continuous
          fuel loads.  It is unfortunate  that the majority of units will be ground-skidded and
          machine piled, as  the impacts from this are much  more severe in  terms of soil
          compaction, erosion and sedimentation.  (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,
          Boise, ID - #15.120.34400.231)

          RESPONSE:

          At this time the lands within the project area have no approved WFU plan and the
          risks in using prescribed fire at mixed and lethal severities is considered too high
          in this area, without prior mechanical fuel reduction.
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      B.  The above-referenced logging methods have the potential to increase fire risk in the
          short term, and therefore would be counter-productive towards meeting the fire risk
          reduction purpose  of the project.  Forest openings  can result in increased wind
          speed and related blow-down, more rapid drying of the forest vegetation, and dense
          tree and shrub regeneration. Additionally, slash on the ground can lead to increased
          short-term  fire risk as has been demonstrated throughout the industrial forestlands of
          North  Idaho  and beyond.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Boise,  ID  -
          #15.97.34400.270)

          RESPONSE:

          It is acknowledged  that the short-term risk of a high severity wildfire is possible
          between the  time  of the vegetation treatment and  the  slash disposal is
          completed. The long  term benefits of the treatments, modified fire behavior and
          lower future fuel  loadings, outweigh  the short term  risk.  Additionally after the
          slash disposal is  completed the fuel  loadings within the  treatment units will be
          less than 12 tons per acre.  If the treatments  are  not  completed and stands
          continue to transition to Fuel Model  10 and 13 we  would see fuel loadings in
          excess of 12 tons per acre.
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135.   The Nez Perce National Forest should compare present, historic, and post-
      treatment fuel loads and canopy densities.

      The Forest Service  needs to compare present, historic,  and post-treatment fuel
      loads and canopy densities for each unit within the proposed treatment areas.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.93.30300.277)

      RESPONSE:

      The text has been updated in  the FEIS document to  address the current, predicted
      future,  and post-treatment fuel models for the project area.  Please see the  Fire/Fuels
      discussion located within chapter 3 of the American Crooked FEIS.
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136.   The Final EIS should provide more data on current and target crown
      densities.

      The Forest Service needs to provide more quantified data on the current and target
      levels of crown densities in the project area.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
      Boise, ID - #15.94.13110.335)

      RESPONSE: See FEIS, Chapters, Section 3.10
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137.   The Nez Perce National Forest should address shade tolerant species.

      On south-facing slopes, the Forest Service should reduce  the number of shade tolerant
      species.   On  north-facing slopes,  canopies are  historically denser with  a greater
      abundance of shade tolerant species.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
      ID - #15.98.33000.277)

      RESPONSE: See FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.10.
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138.   The Nez Perce National Forest should use patch cuts.
      A. WITH OPENINGS OF FOUR ACRES OR LESS

          Any and all patch cute within the entire home  range/foraging area  should be four
          acres or less with reserve trees in order to be consistent with the Management
          Recommendations (Reynolds et al. p. 26):

          Openings (up to 4 acres), for herbaceous and shrubby  under story development and
          tree regeneration, are desired in ponderosa pine and mixed-species forests; smaller
          openings are desired in spruce-fir forests (Reynolds et al. 1992, p, 6).
          Because goshawks are forest and  forest-edge predators that  scan for prey from
          trees, creating openings larger than 4 acres effectively removes these areas from
          goshawk foraging habitat and departs from VSS requirements  for openings  in the
          Management Recommendations.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
          ID-#15.81.34400.391)
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          RESPONSE:

          The purpose  of  the  project  is to reduce existing and potential  forest fuels,
          encourage conditions for sustaining long-lived, fire tolerant conifer species, and
          contribute  to  both  the  economic  and social well being (safety  & economic
          security) of local residents. Within this broader objective, we sought to design a
          compromise approach, incorporating mitigations as needed to minimize impacts
          on goshawks and their habitats.
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      B.  BECAUSE IT WILL HELP REDUCE DANGER FOR FIREFIGHTERS
          / support your plan to punch clear-cuts into the forests in the American and Crooked
          Rivers area.   I believe  they  will help firefighters  if a wildfire occurs.   (Individual,
          Lewiston, ID - #7.1.34410.270)
          RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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139.   The Nez Perce National  Forest should learn from past regeneration
      harvests on the Nez Perce and other forests that are dominated by
      lodgepole pine stands.
      It is critical that the Nez Perce National Forest (NPNF) learn from past examples of
      regeneration harvests  on the NPNF  and other forests that are dominated by
      Lodgepole pine stands.  Evidence shows that under extreme conditions, young
      stands of dense Lodgepole pine will burn.  An example of this  is visible  on the
      Caribou-Targhee  National Forest, directly adjacent to Yellowstone National Park.
      The Clover-Mist Fire  (1988) was started by woodcutters in a clear cut stand, which
      had re-grown with thick Lodgepole pines.  Even though aggressive and responsive
      fire suppression actions were undertaken, the fire quickly spread through adjacent
      stands and  burned  into Yellowstone  Park,  eventually  threatening Old Faithful.
      Similar examples of clear cutting Lodgepole pine stands  should be sought out by
      the NPNF, and research conducted  to determine the  effectiveness  of logging
      activities on fire behavior.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Boise, ID -
      #15.102.33000.279)

      RESPONSE:
      It is acknowledged that there  is a short timeframe, when canopies grow together in
      overstocked stands,  where  lodgepole pine stands that are regenerating may have
      increased fire  behavior characteristics  until the canopies  start to lift off the ground.
      As  the  commenter  stated  this  occurs  under extreme  conditions (i.e., low fuel
      moistures, high temperatures, and high wind conditions).   The  FEIS, Chapter  3,
      Section 3.4, that under extreme fire conditions fire behavior is rarely responsive  to
      either fuel treatments or suppression actions. What this project is attempting to do is
      modify the fire behavior in the conditions that would have  historically produced large
      fires but are not the worst case conditions.
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140.   The Nez Perce National Forest should not set unrealistic standards and
      guidelines for timber harvesting.

      BECAUSE IT PREVENTS AGGRESSIVE TREATMENTS THAT MOVE THE AREA TOWARD NATURAL
      DISTRIBUTION OF AGE CLASS AND SPECIES

      /Acres treated  -only 8.7% of the total project area was treated.   While a clear
      objective is to protect Elk City from catastrophic fire, one must question if unrealistic
      plan standards prevented treatment of sufficient acres to  accomplish the project
      objective.  This is of particular concern since approximately 80% of the area is in
      the 9-21 "dbh category, prime for forest health treatment.  It would appear that other
      resource limitations, possibly unrealistic standards and guides, are preventing more
      aggressive treatment to move this area towards the more natural distribution of age
      class and species.  (TimberAWood Products Industry, Kamiah,  ID - #5.7.34300.160)
      RESPONSE: Comment Acknowledged
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      Old Growth

141.   The Nez Perce National Forest should conduct field reviews.

      A.  TO DETERMINE IF TIMBER HARVEST UNITS MEET OLD GROWTH  CRITERIA

          We question the assertion that that no logging will occur in stands of old growth.
          We encourage you to conduct field reviews in order to determine whether or not
          any of the logging units currently meet Old Growth Criteria, as described in Old-
          Growth Types of the Northern Region (Green et al, 1992).  Numerous problems
          have  been found with old  growth inventories  on  the  adjacent  Clearwater
          National Forest,  and to avoid any  similar occurrences, the  NPNF should
          immediately initiate a forest wide analysis of old growth as part of this and other
          projects in  the Elk City area.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
          ID-#15.134.30100.365)

          RESPONSE:

          Between the  draft and final documents,  we conducted a second analysis of the
          project using Forest Plan old  growth criteria  from  Appendix  N.   This review
          resulted in  conducting field reviews and  plot sampling of planned harvest stands
          that were suspected Forest Plan old growth.  This resulted  in removal of 4
          harvest units from the draft  to the final project.  We then  took this follow-up
          analysis a step  further by carefully evaluating risks that existing old growth units
          may have patches or extensions of the old growth conditions which extended into
          planned harvest units. All Units were field reviewed by a certified silviculturist and
          units which appeared to be old growth were sampled  using the National Common
          Stand Exam Protocol. Units larger than ten acres that meet the definition of old
          growth are to  be left untreated.
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      B.  TO DETERMINE IF OLD GROWTH SHOULD BE HARVESTED

          The DEIS is not clear whether there has been any site specific analysis of the
          cutting  units to determine whether extant old growth would be logged.  The
          DEIS is not clear what definition of old growth is being used, the forest plan
          definition   or the   North   Idaho  guidelines.    (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Moscow,  ID-#22.72.30300.365)

          RESPONSE:

          The original analysis utilized criteria from the North  Idaho guidelines.  Between
          the draft and final  documents, we conducted  a  second level,  more  intensive
          analysis of  the project using Forest Plan old growth criteria from Appendix N.
          See response to comment 141 (A).
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142.   The Nez Perce National Forest should meet old-growth objectives.

      A.  BY CONDUCTING INVENTORIES AND MONITORING

          The fact that the  Nez Perce NF has not monitored the population  trends of its
          old-growth  management indicator species (MIS) as required by the forest plan
          bears important mention here.  The Nez Perce  NF has failed to insure viability
          of MIS and  TES species to date. The monitoring  reports from FOC to  the Nez
          Perce   National  Forest  (referenced  in  this  comment)  bear  this  out.
          Unfortunately, region-wide the  FS has  failed to meet Forest Plan old-growth
          standards,   does not  keep accurate   old-growth inventories,  and  has  not
          monitored population trends in  response to management activities as required
          by  Forest  Plans  and  NFMA  (Juel,   2003).    (Preservation/Conservation
          Organization, Moscow,  ID - #22.63.30100.210)

          RESPONSE:

          A complete summary  record of our Forest Plan monitoring  of MIS and TES
          species results is listed at the back of and supports the terrestrial species viability
          analysis document  titled:  "Habitat-Based  Terrestrial  Vertebrate  Populations
          Viability Related to the American and Crooked River  Project" (USDA FS, 2004a),
          available in  the project  files.  Our species viability analysis is more than simply a
          "proxy on proxy" approach.
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      B.  THROUGH FLEXIBILITY IN ACCOMPLISHING OLD-GROWTH OBJECTIVES

          Old growth - if we understand the data,  there is only a total of 13 acres of 21"
          dbh + in the total project area.  The strategy to meet old growth objectives
          would be to preserve these areas,  and select the appropriate amount of area
          from the 9-21" dbh  category to provide  old growth replacement.  Since almost
          80% of the  project  area is in this size category, there should be considerable
          flexibility in accomplishing objectives.   (Timber/Wood  Products  Industry,
          Kamiah, ID-#5.6.34100.365)
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          RESPONSE:

          This comment was generated by a misconception that the size/structure data in
          the vegetation section of the DEIS, equated to old growth. While there is certainly
          a correlation, the actual old growth habitat has more specific characteristics. The
          size and structure data for vegetation in the  project area and the American and
          Crooked River drainages has been  re-analyzed between the DEIS and FEIS
          using an updated Region 1 vegetation coverage. As the new analysis portrays, a
          large amount of the project area is in the greater than 15 inch dbh size class, and
          meeting Forest Plan requirements for replacement old growth is relatively easy to
          do and provides some flexibility to accomplish objectives while protecting future
          blocks of old growth. This analysis is located  in the vegetation section of Chapter
          3 in the FEIS.
          The further refined old growth  habitat analysis is located near the  end of the
          wildlife section in chapter 3. This analysis received extensive updating between
          the  DEIS and FEIS. Specifically, the  Forest Inventory and Analysis  (FIA) plots
          were completed and the total old growth forest wide was summarized (see table
          in the old growth section of Chapter 3).

          Old growth validation  surveys were conducted  within  the  project area in
          designated old  growth stands during the  fall of 2004.  These  stands were
          originally designated using data from stand exams that were 15-20 years old. It
          was felt that the data may be stale and the stands may have changed enough to
          no longer meet the strict Forest Plan definition of old growth (15 trees per acre
          >21 inches DBH). The results of the surveys and conclusions are located in the
          old growth analysis section of Chapter 3.
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       Weed Management

143.   The Nez Perce  National Forest should adequately fund and monitor for
      weeds.

      Monitoring for weeds and acquiring adequate funding for  weed treatments need to be
      required and guaranteed.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID  -
      #15.90.30100.001)
      RESPONSE:

      Through the analysis a set of project design criteria or mitigation requirements have
      been established to address the risk of weed spread and colonization resulting from the
      proposed  project.  The design  criteria  include  prevention measures, spot treatment,
      monitoring, re-survey of  risk zones for changes  in  weed  infestations  and,  where
      appropriate, the re-vegetation of disturbed soil (Chapter 2  - Design Criteria).   The
      implementation of these invasive plant design criteria would  insure that weed spread
      from ground disturbing actions is minimized or eliminated.
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144.   The Nez Perce National Forest should consider weed management.
      A.  WITH COORDINATION OF NOXIOUS WEED EFFORTS

          We   are  particularly  concerned  with  noxious  weeds  because  there  is  no
          comprehensive weed management strategy  for this area.  With the amount of
          commercial and recreational activity taking place on private and National Forest
          lands in this  area, failure  to coordinate efforts will make project-level strategies
          inadequate.       (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,    Boise,    ID
          #15.87.30300.371)

          RESPONSE:

          The American River and Crooked River Watersheds fall within the Clearwater Basin
          Weed Management Area (CBWMA). The CBWMA is a community-based effort that
          brings together those responsible for weed management within the Clearwater River
          Basin, to develop common weed  management objectives, set realistic  priorities,
          facilitate effective  treatment  and  coordinate  efforts  along  logical  geographic
          boundaries  with similar land types, use patterns and  problem plants.  Partners
          involved in the CBWMA  include Idaho County, Clearwater County, Lewis County,
          Clearwater  NF, Nez Perce NF,  BLM,  Nez  Perce Tribe,  University of Idaho,
          Clearwater RC&D, Back Country Horseman and Private landowners.  The intent of
          reducing risk  of weed  spread and establishment,  treating small infestation before
          they expand, providing focus on the transportation network, and  reoccurring surveys
          integrate many of the priority elements of the Clearwater Basin Weed Management
          Area.  Coordination at multiple scales  is a tenet of cooperative  weed management
          programs across jurisdictional boundaries. As a result weed management efforts are
          coordinated across  local,  basin,  regional  and  state  levels  by the  community
          partnership of which the National Forest is an active participant.
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      B.  TO BE PROACTIVE IN PREVENTING INFESTATION

          Although the Forest Service does not consider the weed situation to be severe, the
          Forest Service should realize that it is far cheaper to be proactive, in order to prevent
          infestation,  as opposed  to having lax standards and  to allow  the  situation to
          deteriorate.  This is a potentially large threat considering the level of disturbance that
          is proposed and the new road construction that will increase motorized vehicles in
          previously  non-impacted areas, acting as vectors for new infestations of noxious
          weeds.   Due to  the  limitations for  herbicide application in   these  high-priority
          watersheds, action must be taken to avoid weed infestations and should have been
          addressed as part of this analysis.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,
          ID-#15.91.32510.371)

          RESPONSE:
          The design  criteria (Chapter 2 - Design Criteria) were developed as a result of the
          risk  assessment conducted as part of the analysis.  They reflect a concern for the
          potential of weed spread from ground disturbing activities, taking into account the
          type  and condition of the  vegetation communities within the  project  area.  The
          proposed mitigation is commensurate with the risk.  Integrating project level actions
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         within the broader context of a community-based strategy add strength to the overall
         weed management effort in the upper watersheds of the Clearwater basin.  Refer,
         also to response to comment 144(A), above.
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145.   The Nez Perce National Forest should address how the proposed project
      will adversely affect native species.

      777e Forest Service has failed to  adequately address  how the proposed project will
      adversely affect native species by allowing noxious weed importation and establishment.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.88.21100.371
      RESPONSE:

      The weed  risk assessment in Chapter 3 is based on the susceptibility of the native plant
      communities in the project area,  weed infestations  found  in  the area, the level of
      disturbance and presences of spread corridors.  Briefly, the analysis found that there is a
      moderate risk of weed spread  and establishment as a result of proposed disturbances.
      To reduce the  risk  of continued weed  spread  design criteria (FEIS, Chapter 2, Design
      Criteria) is integrated into the project and will be a  requirement of the proposed project.
      Noxious weeds will  not be allowed to spread nor establish as a result of implementation
      of the proposed project. Therefore, it is expected that  no adverse affects to native plant
      communities will occur.
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      SECTION  10-WILDLIFE

 146. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD CONSIDER POPULATION VIABILITY
      AT THE FOREST LEVEL.

      For the proposal to be consistent with  the  Forest  Plan,  enough  habitat for  viable
      populations of old-  growth dependent wildlife species is needed over the landscape.
      Considering  potential difficulties  of using population viability analysis at the project
      analysis area level  (Ruggiero, et.  al, 1994), the cumulative effects of carrying out
      multiple projects simultaneously  across the Nez  Perce NF makes it imperative  that
      population viability be assessed at least at the forest wide scale (Marcot and Murphy,
      1992).  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.67.32200.350)

      RESPONSE:

      An analysis of terrestrial species population viability analysis has  been prepared and
      is  available  in the  project files  titled:   "Habitat-based  Terrestrial Vertebrate
      Populations Viability Related to the American and Crooked River Project" (USDA FS,
      2004a). This analysis incorporates landscape and local habitat  information as well
      as a summary of MIS populations monitoring data & trends from the Forest Plan
      Monitoring & Evaluation Reporting required  by the Forest Plan.  It is not simply a
      "proxy on proxy" approach to population viability analysis.
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147.   The Nez Perce National Forest should consider wildlife fragmentation.

      A.   The fragmentation of wildlife habitat by  the proposed treatments needs to be
         assessed.   The effects of regeneration harvesting  on species dependent upon
         contiguous forested habitat should be considered.  We are particularly concerned
         that the proposed  action  has the  potential to negatively impact American Marten,
         Fisher,  Wolverine, Moose, Elk,  and Canada Lynx.   (Preservation/Conservation
         Organization, Boise, ID-#15.127.30300.331)

         RESPONSE:

         The fragmentation  discussion and  effects analysis information for old growth
         species is  located in  the FEIS (Chapter 3, Section  3.11).   Fragmentation
         analysis and discussions for wolverine, moose,  elk,  and Canada lynx  are
         located in the FEIS in Chapter 3, Section 3.11.
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      B.  Treatments need to be timed  to reduce the impact on nesting birds and denning
         mammals.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.125.34000.350)

         RESPONSE:
         Project design and mitigation measures  have been added to  better address
         these concerns in the FEIS. See project design and mitigation  section.
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148.  The Nez Perce National Forest should  consider cumulative and direct
      impacts of the treatments on local wildlife populations.

      In addition to the direct impacts these treatments will have on local [wildlife] populations,
      the cumulative or linked impacts of these activities on adjacent populations needs to be
      considered. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.126.30300.350)

      RESPONSE:
      Within  the FEIS,  the  cumulative  effects or linked  impacts  are addressed in
      Chapter 3, Section 3.11.
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149.  The Nez Perce National Forest should  leave snags for cavity nesters.
      A sufficient number of snags need to  be left standing in each treatment area for cavity
      nesters until snags can be replaced by natural recruitment.  Standing trees need to be
      overstocked    to   ensure    sufficient   habitat    until   new   trees   mature.
      (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.128.34400.330)

      RESPONSE:

      The  target numbers of snags retained per acre used as an objective is from the
      Forest Plan, Appendix N-3, and specific project implementation guidelines for the
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      project follow the "Northern Region Snag Management Protocol", in the project
      file.
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150.   The Nez Perce National Forest should consider goshawks and follow
      guidelines and requirements.

      A.  The DE/S implies that no formal surveys for goshawks have occurred in the project
          area.  At best, there are sighting records.  In order to meet the requirements of
          NFMA and NEPA,  these kinds of surveys need to be conducted for all Ml and TES
          species. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.65.30100.340)

          RESPONSE:
          Although no formal surveys were conducted for goshawks, the Forest Wildlife
          Biologist spent 5 weeks surveying habitat conditions, reporting incidental
          sightings, and searching for suitable  harvest sites during early summer of
          2003.   Several  sightings and  potential nesting activity areas were thus
          identified  and are documented in  the  project  files (See  Crooked_Amer-
          Wiidiife_Observations_Tabie.doc).     Conducting  individual   species   surveys
          throughout a landscape as extensive  as the American/Crooked project was
          neither a practical nor affordable alternative  given the timeframes to complete
          this project.
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      B.  The DEIS suggests that because of major differences in forest types, habitat, and
          availability of riparian  zones,  the cross-region  application of the Management
          Recommendations cannot be justified.  However,  it mentions that no guidelines exist
          for goshawk nest and habitat protection within USFS Region 1.  Given the lack of
          guidelines, the sensitivity of goshawks to disturbance via logging, and the scope of
          the project, management should rely on these recommendations to ensure a level of
          prudence. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.82.10400.390)

          RESPONSE:
          Considering the  fact that the large tree component and higher canopy closures
          preferred by goshawks for nesting will, in many cases occur within old growth, and
          the  project  harvests no old  growth  stands (either Forest Plan or  North  Idaho
          standards) nor in Riparian Habitat Conservation Areas, existing and historic  nests
          identified  during layout goshawks  nests  should be adequately protected.   See
          Chapter 2: Mitigation and Design Measures Section.

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      C.  TO DETERMINE EXISTING ALTERNATIVE GOSHAWK NESTS
          In addition  to protecting existing  alternate nests,  the  Management Guidelines
          specifically recommend that a minimum of three presently suitable nest areas of 30
          acres each  should be maintained per home range.  These nest areas are usually
          mature old  trees and dense  forest canopies: "No adverse management activities
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          should occur at any time in suitable nest areas" (Reynolds et al.  1992). For each
          goshawk home range, the Forest Service should have identified three 30-acre stands
          of present nest sites for a total of 90 acres.  In addition to protecting three suitable
          nest areas,  the Management Recommendations also suggest that land managers
          identify and prepare three 30-acre stands of replacement nest sites for a total of 90
          acres in the event that the original nest sites are lost in a wildfire or other event.  The
          Forest Service should manage these replacement sites to ensure future stand
          conditions consisting of dense, mature stands with high tree cover and high basal
          area. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.80.32400.391)

          RESPONSE:

          See above comments. The Nez Perce National Forest has not inventoried all
          potential goshawk  nests  in  the  project area,  thus  protecting currently
          unknown nests is not possible at this time. Further, old-growth stands which
          tend to  have disproportionate  amounts of  nest selection  characteristics
          preferred by goshawks are protected from all harvests, further reducing risks
          of unknown nest habitat losses to harvesting.

          Management recommendations proposed by Reynolds  et al.,  1992, were
          developed specifically for the southwestern United States. Thus, it would be
          inappropriate to apply these guidelines to the moister,  intermountain west.
          Given that this project will not harvest old growth stands and that active or
          newly discovered goshawk nests will be protected, goshawks nests should be
          adequately protected.
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151.   The Nez Perce National Forest should design this project such that legal
      requirements  for protecting habitat of threatened and endangered (TE) and
      other sensitive species are recognized.

      RESPONSE:
      The legal  requirements  for protecting  threatened and endangered and other
      sensitive species habitats  have been  met as  addressed in  the  Biological
      Assessments (T&E), and the sensitive species discussions within the FEIS. In
      addition, a terrestrial and aquatic species viability analysis is provided which
      provides rationale supporting long-term persistence of these species.  See FEIS,
      ROD,  BEs Appendix E and J.
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      A.  BY MEETING EXISTING FOREST PLAN GOALS REGARDING RECOVERY OF
          TE HABITAT AND PROMOTION OF INTRINSIC WILDLIFE VALUES

          The following goal  in the  Forest Plan is not being met  and would be further
          compromised  by massive logging and vegetation projects under the ruse of fire
          prevention:  Provide  habitat to contribute to the  recovery of  Threatened  and
          Endangered plant and animal species in accordance with approved recovery plans.
          (Individual, Delmar, NY-#28.4.10400.340)
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   RESPONSE:
   Recovery of wolves has been accomplished.  The amount of designated lynx
   habitat within the project area is extremely limited (see FEIS, Chapter 3 - Section
   3.11), and all requisites of the Lynx Conservation Assessment and Strategy have
   been satisfied  (see lynx section  of  FEIS).   The  project occurs outside the
   wintering area of bald eagles.  The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service has reviewed and
   verbally agreed with the conclusions in the Biological Assessment (see Level 1
   consultation notes).
B.  BY MEETING FOREST PLAN STANDARDS FOR OLD GROWTH

    The Forest Service also has a responsibility to protect replacement old growth areas,
   particularly since the NPNF is not meeting the Forest Plan Standards for Old Growth
    throughout  the  majority  of these  watersheds.    (Preservation/Conservation
    Organization, Boise, ID -#15.137. 10400.365)

    RESPONSE:
   After  the  DEIS  and  comments,  a more extensive and intensive old growth
   analysis using Forest Plan standards and field review of stands further removed
   harvest units that would meet North Idaho and Forest Plan old growth definitions.
   In addition,  provisions and mitigations to field inventory units  near old growth
   patches will be implemented. See FEIS, old growth section.
   The American and Crooked River Project was designed to avoid all direct harvest
   impacts in old growth and  replacement stands.

   See response to 142. B.
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C. BY AVOIDING HABITAT  FRAGMENTATION TO COMPLY WITH MARTEN
   HABITAT GUIDELINES
   Because of the  significant extent  of logging and clearcutting proposed under the
   project, the impacts  of  each alternative appear to be  inadequately analyzed.
   According to Forest Management Guidelines for the  Provision of Marten Habitat
   (Robert Watt,  et al.),  gaps of open habitat more than 1-2 kilometers should be
   avoided.   The project proposes a 34%  clearcut.  Habitat  fragmentation and the
   proven subsequent decline in pine  marten populations appear to be inevitable under
   the Proposed  Action.    (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Boise,  ID -
   #15.86.13100.330)

   RESPONSE:
   The impacts of each alternative on marten and their habitat have been discussed in
   the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1 1.  In addition, the cumulative effects section has
   been updated.

   The FEIS acknowledges effects of additional harvest and fragmentation effects on
   pine marten habitats,  but also the discussion cites work from Coffin,  et al. 2002,
   which  indicates  that despite heavily logged and  roaded areas,  pine  marten can
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         tolerate and remain in  such areas  (see FEIS, Section  3.11 - pine marten). The
         analysis further discusses and assesses fragmentation effects and the impacts of the
         activities.
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      D. BY DEMONSTRATING  THAT TIMBER HARVEST ACTIVITIES ARE NOT IN
         CONFLICT WITH ESA AND FOREST PLAN HABITAT PROTECTION
         REQUIREMENTS FOR  FISH

         Given  the above concerns, it is difficult to see how this project meets the ESA
         regarding listed fish species.  There is no solid evidence from monitoring that habitat
         is recovering and no evidence at all that streams are now meeting forest plan stands
         (see appendix A  forest plan). /4s such, approval of the non restoration parts of the
         project—logging and man-made building-are in conflict with the forest plan, the ESA,
         and treaty obligations.   (Preservation/Conservation  Organization, Moscow,  ID -
         #22.30.10400.100)

         RESPONSE:
         Please refer to the FEIS Record of Decision, which includes the Biological
         Evaluation for listed fish  and wildlife.  While current conditions of fish habitat are
         below objective in project area streams, this project, as required under the Forest
         Plan, is designed to improve these conditions (FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.2).
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152.   The Nez Perce National Forest should design this project such that best
      available science for protecting sensitive species is acknowledged.

      A. BY ADOPTING LANDSCAPE-SCALE MANAGEMENT CONCEPTS WITH
         BUFFERS. RESERVES. AND CONNECTORS

         State-of-the-art conservation biology and the principles  that underlie the agency's
         policy of "ecosystem management" dictate an increasing focus on the landscape-
         scale concept and design of large biological reserves accompanied by buffer zones
         and habitat connectors  as  the most effective (and perhaps only)  way to preserve
         wildlife diversity and viability (Woss, 7993;.
         The FS has stated:  "Well distributed habitat is the amount and location of required
         habitat  which assure  that  individuals from demes  distributed throughout the
         population's existing range, can interact. Habitat should be located so that genetic
         exchange among all demes is possible." (Mealey 1983.) (Preservation/Conservation
         Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.69.13100.330)

         RESPONSE:
         The FEIS used best available science  and  a landscape scale approach in the
         analysis  through reference  to the South  Fork  Clearwater River  Landscape
         Assessment as  well as consideration  and  referencing updated  theories and
         biodiversity studies pertaining to old growth  (See FEIS discussion  in Chapter 3,
         Section 3.11). This discussion addresses ability of the habitat to facilitate genetic
         exchange commensurate  with historic landscape patterns  and  disturbance
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   regimes. The discussion also highlights that connectedness must be balanced
   with risks of natural disturbance events and must be considered when evaluating
   long-term  habitat integrity.  Additional discussion on neotropical migrant birds
   and their  habitats is  in the FEIS, Chapter  3, Section 3.11.   For additional
   discussion by old growth indicator species, see FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.1 1.
B. BY CONDUCTING MONITORING AND POPULATION VARIABILITY ANALYSIS
   FOR AREAS THAT MAY EXCEED THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT AREA

   1 .   The FS in this region has acknowledged that viability is not merely a project area
       consideration, that the scale of analysis must be broader:

       Population viability analysis is not plausible or logical at the project level such as
       the  scale of the Dry Fork  Vegetation  and  Recreation  Restoration  EA.
       Distributions  of common wildlife  species as well as species at risk encompass
       much  larger  areas than typical  project areas and  in  most  cases larger than
       National Forest boundaries. No wildlife species that presently occupy the project
       area  are at  such low  numbers  that potential  effects to  individuals  would
      jeopardize species viability. No actions proposed under the preferred alternative
       would conceivably lead to loss of population viability. (Lewis and Clark NF, Dry
       Fork EA Appendix D at p. 9.) (Preservation/Conservation Organization,  Moscow,
       ID -#22.69.13100.330)

       RESPONSE:

       The viability  discussion for various wildlife species has been revised and
       improved (see wildlife section 3.1 1), as well as Appendix J.
       The analysis of effects and species viability discussions for various wildlife
       species included in the American and Crooked River project  looked beyond
       the project  level.   The majority of the wildlife analysis for this  project
       encompassed the  entire 5th code  watersheds associated  with this project
       (American and Crooked Rivers).  Wildlife information  related to the amount of
       existing habitat  potentially available for certain  sensitive and management
       indicator species  was modeled using the  Northern  Region  Vegetation
       Mapping Project dataset (R1-VMP) to describe abundance and distribution of
      wildlife habitat for American and  Crooked River drainages.  This information
       can be found in Chapter 3, wildlife section, of the  FEIS.  The Nez  Perce
       National  Forest also used the 2000-2002 Forest Inventory and Analysis (FIA)
      survey dataset to ascertain the abundance and distribution of certain wildlife,
      old growth and  snag  habitats  at various scales: watershed (5th  Hydrologic
       Unit Code -  HUC), subbasin (4th HUC), and forest-wide. A revised viability
      analysis  can  be found in Appendix  J of the FEIS, which incorporates both
       R1vmp and the  FIA data.  Additional information regarding species viability
      can also be found in the project file, which incorporates results of the Forest's
      monitoring efforts since the Forest Plan was signed in 1987.
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   2.  The DEIS should have firmly established that the species that exist, or historically
      are believed  to  have been present in the analysis  area are still part  of viable
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             populations.  Since Forest Plan monitoring efforts have failed in  this regard, it
             must be a priority for project analyses.  Yet, the project analysis relies on this
             inadequate and/or unavailable  forest plan  monitoring.  Identification of viable
             populations is something that must be done at a specific geographic scale.  The
             analysis must cover a large enough area to include a cumulative effects analysis
             area that would include truly viable populations. Analysis must identify viable
             populations of MIS,  TES, at-risk, focal, and demand species  of which the
             individuals  in  the analysis  area are  members in order  to sustain  viable
             populations.     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Moscow,   ID  -
             #22.70.13100.340)

             RESPONSE:
             The complete summary record  of our Forest Plan monitoring of MIS and TES
             species results is located in and supports the terrestrial species viability analysis
             document  in the American & Crooked River Project File  titled: "Habitat-Based
             Terrestrial  Vertebrate Populations Viability Related to the American and Crooked
             River Project" (USDA  FS, 2004a), available in  the  project files.  This species
             viability analysis incorporates both habitat and population data and is more than
             simply a "proxy on proxy" approach.
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      C.  BY CONDUCTING OLD GROWTH ANALYSIS THAT IS  CONSISTENT WITH
          HABITAT ANALYSIS
          The old growth  analysis is  inconsistent  with the  analyses  for various species
          dependent on  old growth habitats. The DEIS maintains that no old growth would be
          affected by any alternative.  However,  habitat for old growth  species  would be
          affected. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.71.13100.365)

          RESPONSE:
          The American and Crooked River Project was designed to avoid all direct harvest
          impacts on old growth and Forest Plan minimum replacement stands. While no
          direct effects  are realized, NEPA requires that indirect as well as cumulative
          effects  be disclosed.  These disclosures  by species are related in  the FEIS,
          Chapter 3, Section 3.11.  Related discussion on Neotropical  migrant birds and
          their habitats is in the FEIS, Chapter 3, Section 3.11.
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153.   The Nez Perce  National Forest should evaluate the impacts of the project
      on management indicator species.

      Additional  issues  of  concern include  evaluation  of the  impacts  of the  project on
      management indicator species and the impact of this project on the long term viability of
      species. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.146.32.100.340)

      RESPONSE:
      MIS impacts evaluations  are discussed in Chapter 3 of the  FEIS in the wildlife and
      fisheries section.  Long-term viability of these species was summarized in the FEIS
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       and Appendix J, and the complete analysis for wildlife is available in the project file
       titled:  "Habitat-based  Terrestrial Vertebrate  Populations Viability  Related  to  The
       American and Crooked River Project" (USDA FS, 2004a).  This analysis incorporates
       both habitat data as well as MIS populations monitoring results since the Forest Plan
       was signed. It is more than simply a  "proxy on proxy" approach.

       The Fisheries section (3.3) of the FEIS provides a summary of the status and trends
       for management  indicator  species  (MIS)  as well  as a discussion  of population
       viability.  The complete analysis is contained in the project record.
                                      
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      SECTION 11 - SOCIOECONOMIC

 156. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD WORK WITH INDUSTRIES OTHER
      THAN THE TIMBER INDUSTRY.

      FOR TOURISM

      We could have more  tourists than  Colorado has  in 20 years if our State and your
      department could  work in harmony with an industry other than timber.  My industry is
      real estate and I support the forest plan put forth by Friends of the Clearwater.   Your
      decision concerning the fate of forests within our beloved State of Idaho will impact me
      for the rest of my life. (Individual, Moscow,  ID - #21.3.34000.810)

      RESPONSE:  Comment Acknowledged
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157.  (old 158.)    The Final EIS should be comprehensive in explaining the
      economics of the American and Crooked River Project.

      A. BY CLARIFYING WHAT " ECONOMIC OBJECTIVE" REFERS TO, FROM PAGE 20 OF THE DEIS.
         " ENTRY INTO MIXED CONIFER STANDS is INCLUDED TO MEET THE ECONOMIC OBJECTIVE."
         At page 20, the DEIS states, "Entry into mixed conifer stands is included to meet the
         economic objective."  Please clarify  which objective this is referring to,  as no
         economic objective is provided at page 10, where project objectives are disclosed.
         Further, because no economic objective is given at page 10, this alternative falls
         outside the scope of this analysis.  If an economic objective is part of the purpose
         and    need   of   this   project,   the   proposal   must    be   re-scoped.
         (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID-#15.22.21100.800)

         RESPONSE:

         The project objectives are discussed in the Purpose and Need For Action Section on
         page 2 of the FEIS.  The first paragraph of the section defines one purpose of the
         project to "contribute to the economic and social well-being of people who use and
         reside within the surrounding area." By entering (treating) mixed conifer stands,
         additional economic gains can be gained.
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      B. BY EXAMINING THE ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF A RESTORATION ALTERNATIVE
         REHABILITATING THESE WATERSHEDS SO THEY MEET BENEFICIAL USES

         Any work performed in this watershed will have difficulty paying for itself given the
         low value of the timber and the high operating costs necessary to mitigate for
         previous legacy problem.  The FEIS  should examine the economic effects of  a
         restoration alternative rehabilitating these watersheds so they meet beneficial uses.
         Healthy watersheds would improve fisheries and benefit outfitters, guides, and
         supporting recreational industries.  One need only examine  the  name of the
         drainage,   the  Clearwater,   to  remind  oneself  of   what   is   possible.
         (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise,  ID-#15.142.21100.800)
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   RESPONSE:
   A restoration alternative was considered and eliminated from detailed study because
   it does not respond to the purpose and need. (FEIS chapter 2)
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C. BY DISCUSSING THE IMPACT OF THE UPSWING IN THE TIMBER MARKET. AND IT'S
   POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PROPOSED RESTORATION WORK
   The  FEIS should discuss the impact of the upswing in  the timber market, and the
   potential impact  on proposed restoration work.    At  the time  of the  project's
   conception, timber prices were extremely low and may have led to limited planning
   for restoration.  With an ensuing rebound in timber prices, additional restoration may
   be    feasible.      (Preservation/Conservation    Organization,    Boise,   ID
   #15.140.21100.820)

   RESPONSE:
   The  economic analysis in Chapter 3 is intended to be used as an indicator of value
   and  costs. The true value received can only occur when a timber sale is sold. The
   economic analysis displays the values and costs available at the time of printing and
   have been updated from what was displayed in the DEIS.
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D. BY FACTORING IN THE COSTS TO RETURN THE WATERSHED TO A CONDITION SUPPORTING
   BENEFICIAL USES FOR EACH ALTERNATIVE
   In addition to analyzing the economic costs and benefits of each alternative in terms
   of expected timber yield, benefits,  and harvest  costs, the FEIS must factor in the
   costs to return the watershed to a  condition supporting beneficial  uses  for each
   alternative.  The FEIS needs to factor in the costs of decommissioning all high-risk
   roads, rehabilitating degraded areas,  losses in the recreation industry resulting from
   decreased and low-level fish production.  The FEIS also must address the  costs
   associated with preparing the  EIS, administering the sale and other administrative
   costs associated with the planning and preparation of the project.  Please include all
   costs  associated  with  this  sale  in  the  FEIS.     (Preservation/Conservation
   Organization, Boise, ID-#15.139.21100.830)

   RESPONSE:
   The  alternative tables, displaying the projected revenue and cost of implementation,
   in Chapter 3, Section 3.12, do incorporate the direct costs of road decommissioning
   and  rehabilitating degraded areas (mine sites, soil restoration, etc.) The indirect
   effects analysis discusses recreation activity, and an increase in anadromous fish
   habitat improvement. The costs associated with planning, preparing, and
   administering the project are normally not included in economic analyses.
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     E.  BY DISCUSSING THE USE OF OFF-BUDGET FUNDS
        The FEIS should also discuss the use of off-budget funds (i.e. KV, BD, Roads and
        Trails,  etc) in  the  accomplishment  of various  components  of this proposal.
        (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID-#15.141.21100.835)

        RESPONSE:
        The alternative tables, displaying the projected revenue and cost of implementation,
        in Chapter 3, Section 3.12, display KV and BD costs. The KV costs are displayed as
        reforestation line items. The BD costs are displayed as line items for broadcast
        burning, underburning, and excavator pile and burning. The restoration work and
        costs associated are also displayed in the tables.  How this work is to be funded is to
        be determined.
                                       OJ03CS
     F.  BY INCLUDING THE LONG-TERM OUTLOOK FOR THE PROJECT AREA IN THE ECONOMIC
        ANALYSIS
        Following implementation of the project, it should be expected that dense thickets of
        Lodgepole Pine  would regenerate in the logged  areas.  In the course of 80 years,
        this will result in beetle-susceptible stands and if current ideology continues to plague
        the Forest Service, this will necessitate identical treatments at that time. This is the
        long-term outlook for the project area, based on the likely scenario.  This sequence
        of events should be considered in the FEIS analysis, and particularly in the economic
        analysis.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Boise, ID - #15.110.21100.820)

        RESPONSE:
        The scenario described in the comment is an accurate  description of the expected
        life cycle of Lodgepole pine habitat.  However, it would be highly speculative to
        include in a current economic analysis, a similar treatment with similar costs what
        would be done eighty years from now.
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     SECTION 12 - WILDERNESS AND ROADLESS AREAS
     ROADLESS AND WILDERNESS AREAS GENERAL

158. THE NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST SHOULD PROTECT LANDS DESIGNATED AS
     WILDERNESS OR ROADLESS.
     A. BY NOT HARVESTING TIMBER IN ROADLESS AREAS
        The merits of protecting roadless lands are  many, and crossing the line to log in
        roadless  lands  would  set  a  terrible  precedent.    (Individual,  Seattle,  WA  -
        #8.3.62100.002)

        RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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      B. BY MAINTAINING THE MEADOW CREEK AREA AS INVENTORIED ROADLESS LAND

         Not surprisingly, the DEIS claims the SFLA's identification of inventoried roadless
         areas has been rescinded and was under different parameters. This is a transparent
         attempt to surreptitiously eliminate acreage from the Meadow Creek roadless area.
         When  was this rescinded and how was  it done?   (Preservation/Conservation
         Organization, Moscow, ID-#22.76.62110.621)

         RESPONSE:
         The West Meadow Creek Inventoried Roadless Area was defined in the Forest Plan
         and this boundary was used in this document. This is the only official boundary of
         that Inventoried Roadless Area. The roadless area that is depicted in the SFLA was
         an inventory of lands that met Regional protocols for roadless areas and this
         boundary will be assessed during the Forest Plan Revision process.
                                     03 0* (19 0# 05 <&

159.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider reducing limitations to
      operate in roadless lands.
      TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO TREAT AREAS IN NEED
      Roadless- there are significant amount of roadless areas in and adjacent to the project.
      We are always concerned that limitation  to operating  both  there  and in currently
      unroaded areas limits access and treatment of areas in  need, and authorized by the
      1987 Forest Plan. (TimberAVood Products Industry, Kamiah, ID - #5.10.62100.410)

      RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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160.  The Nez Perce National Forest should consider potential conflicts and
      access limitations associated with roadless policy.
      When [roadless areas limit access] conflict arises [and] it should be highlighted for the
      public, and risk clearly explained to higher authorities.   Often roadless policy limits the
      best economical and environmental access options.  (Timber/Wood Products Industry,
      Kamiah, ID - #5.11.12100.410)

      RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged.
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161.  The Nez Perce National Forest should accurately map and draw inventoried
      roadless area boundaries.
      TO INCLUDE AND SHOW THE PROPER BOUNDARIES OF THE MEADOW CREEK ROADLESS AREA
      TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF LEGAL AND ETHICAL PROBLEMS IN THE MAPPING AND
      INVENTORYING OF ROADLESS AREAS
      The  DEIS claims no  activities are  planned for  inventoried roadless  areas  (IRAs).
      However, that assumes, among others, two important points.  The first is there is a
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consistent map showing the IRA boundaries.   The second is that the IRA boundaries
were drawn correctly. Neither is accurate.
With regard to the Meadow Creek roadless area, there are two maps that show an IRA
boundary.  The first is the forest plan map from  1987.  The second is the one in the
SFLA (see map 27, SFLA, Volume II.  Since this is an agency document we assume you
have a copy of it.  If not, we can send you a  color copy of the map). The  SFLA map
shows land between Box Sing Creek just past Kirks Fork as inventoried roadless all the
way to the BLM boundary, land in the East Fork of the American River all the way to the
boundary with BLM, and some land at the head of the Flint Creek drainage that is part of
the Meadow Creek IRA.  It is quite clear, from our on-the-ground knowledge of the area,
observation of aerial photos, and the DEIS itself that areas that this area is,  in fact,
roadless.
Map 11 a in the DEIS makes this point.  We will comment on the adequacy of this map
later.
What is important is that the SFLA map shows this area to be inventoried.  Furthermore,
this area should be in the inventory and its exclusion indicates ethical and perhaps legal
problems with the mapping and inventories.  The SFLA was an  honest attempt to reflect
the inventoried roadless boundaries. (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,
ID-#22.75.40220.621)

RESPONSE:
The inventoried  roadless areas (IRAs) for the Nez Perce National Forest were
mapped  during development of the Forest Plan.   They are displayed in the Nez
Perce National Forest FEIS, Appendix C. No harvest or road building is proposed in
the American and Crooked Rivers Project within these IRAs.
The IRAs in the vicinity of the American  and Crooked  Rivers  Project Area are
displayed in maps  11 a and 11b of the FEIS.  The IRA boundaries used in these
maps have been redrawn at a larger scale than  that displayed in  the  Nez Perce
National  Forest Plan FEIS Appendix C but represent the same areas as closely as
we can interpret from the small scale maps in the Forest Plan FEIS, Appendix C.
In 1998,  the Nez Perce  National Forest published the South Fork Clearwater River
Landscape Assessment  (SFLA). This document is not a decision document, but an
assessment designed  to frame  issues and display information to be used during
forest plan revision. As part of that analysis,  a preliminary remapping of roadless
areas was conducted  using the region's "Roadless Area Inventory  Protocol" from
1996. The result of that remapping effort was displayed in  maps 3 and 27 of the
SFLA. These maps show the starting point for a reinventory of roadless areas for
consideration during forest  plan revision and  were not a decision  to change IRA
boundaries. The forest plan revision team is  currently using the same  protocol to
reinventory  current Inventoried  Roadless  Areas  and  other  areas with possible
roadless characteristics to create a new inventory of Inventoried Roadless Areas for
analysis  during forest plan revision. They are not using the precise areas displayed
in the SFLA. The areas  mapped using this protocol during forest plan revision will be
evaluated for wilderness designation and possible roadless area management in the
revised forest plan.
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      The SFLA did not change the IRAs.  It was a first step to a re-inventory of roadless
      areas to be analyzed during forest plan revision.  The effects to IRAs addressed in
      the American and Crooked Rivers Project are those to the IRAs defined in the Forest
      Plan FEIS, Appendix C.  The analysis of affects to these IRAs and other areas with
      possible  unroaded  characteristics has  been supplemented  in  the  FEIS.   That
      reanalysis can be found in Section 3.13.  Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas,
      and Areas with Possible Unroaded Characteristics in the FEIS.

      See response to comment #21.
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         affecting roadless values, and then claim in the forest plan revision those areas are
         not longer suitable for wilderness and drop them from the roadless inventory.  Thus,
         the decision to destroy wilderness character would never have been analyzed and
         the "discovery" of the unsuitability of the  area  only made after the fact.  That is
         contrary to NEPA, NFMA, and above all, a sense of public trust and integrity that the
         agency is supposed to have.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID
         -#22.83.13100.621)

         RESPONSE:
         No part of this project occurs in the  any Inventoried Roadless Area and in
         particular,  no part of this project occurs in the West Meadow Creek Inventoried
         Roadless Area.  In addition,  see  response to comment 161 and response to
         comment 21.
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      B. BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE GOALS OF EXISTING FOREST PLANS TO PROTECT SENSITIVE
         HABITAT
         This roadless area provides diversity and quality of habitat for fish - a primary goal of
         your own NP Forest Plan.  It also provides habitat that contributes to the recovery of
         Threatened  and Endangered Species - yet another goal in the NP Forest Plan.
         Please  uphold your own Forest Plan and  do what is right for the ecology of this
         roadless landscape by considering and selecting an alternative that meets these
         goals.  (Individual, Moscow, ID - #9.2.10400.002)

         RESPONSE:

         There are not specific Forest Plan Standards for Roadless Areas in the Nez Perce
         Forest Plan. This project was designed to meet or exceed Forest Plan Standards.
         Please see the Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Area section
         of the Document in Chapter three for an analysis of the impacts to Roadless Areas.
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165.   The Nez Perce National Forest should comply with guidelines and
      regulations for analyzing impacts to roadless areas.
      A. SUCH AS CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTION
         The agency has clear guidelines on which  to analyze and inventory roadless areas
         developed in RARE II and the initial rounds of forest plans. These include direction
         from  congress in evaluating wilderness potential  through legislation and various
         reports. In essence, it is the  physical impacts of roads (real roads,  not ways or jeep
         trail), logging or other intensive development (with  some exceptions for long-past
         development)     that     removes    areas    from    roadless    inventories.
         (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.84.10400.610)
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   RESPONSE:
   Roadless area inventory has been conducted and is used in the Forest Planning
   process.  See the FEIS Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Area, and Unroaded Area
   section in Chapter 3 for effects to roadless areas.
B. SUCH AS REGULATORY TRIGGERS TO DOCUMENT IMPACTS FROM TIMBER HARVESTS IN AN
   EIS
   The  agency's  own regulations note that "harvesting timber" in a roadless area
   triggers the necessity to prepare an EIS, even Wit is "in only one part of the roadless
   area.'  (Federal Register Vol. 57 No. 152, September 18, 1992. page 43200, FSH
   1909. 15 Chapter 20.6(3)). While the preparation of an EIS is not the issue here, the
   point is logging  significantly affects the  undeveloped nature of a roadless  area.
   (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID - #22.79.10400.621)

   RESPONSE:
   There are not specific Forest Plan Standards for Roadless Areas in the Nez Perce
   Forest  Plan (USDA FS, 1987a), but all  other Forest Plan Standards must be met in
   these areas.  This project was designed to meet or exceed Forest Plan Standards,
   including those specific to fish and other threatened and endangered  species.  No
   activities associated with this project are proposed in the Meadow Creek Inventories
   Roadless Area. Please see Section 3.13. - Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas,
   and Unroaded Area in  Chapter 3 of the  Final  Environmental Impact Statement for an
   analysis of the impacts to Roadless Areas.
C. SUCH AS APPROVED RECOVERY PLANS AND PENDING ROADLESS MANDATES IN
   CONGRESS

   Your responsibilities are to  maintain the integrity  of those national forests and
   watersheds in your area. There are many approved recovery plans for areas already
   damaged.  As to the damaged South Fork Clearwater watershed,  I  urge you to
   adhere to the roadless mandate now threatened in the US congress and to resist the
   pressures for logging.  I believe you are obliged to analyze current pressures and to
   avoid further depletions of national forests and watersheds.  (Individual, New  York,
   NY -#29.1. 10400.621)

   RESPONSE:

   No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas. Please see the
   Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Area, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter  3 of
   this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
                                    O5CSO8

D. BY ADOPTING A DEFINITION OF 'IRREVERSIBLE AND IRRETRIEVABLE COMMITMENTS OF
   RESOURCES' IN ROADLESS AREAS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH COURT DECISIONS

   The DEIS claims that there  are no irreversible  and irretrievable commitments of
   roadless resources under any alternative in  spite of the fact roadless land will be
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   logged under the action alternatives except E.  The excuse is the impacts would be
   temporary.
   The courts are clear even though this DEIS ignores the law.  A decision to log  a
   roadless area is "environmentally significant" [Smith v.  US Forest Service No. 93-
   36187 (9th Cir.  Aug. 22, 1994)] and "the decision to harvest timber on a previously
   undeveloped tract of land is "an irreversible and irretrievable decision' which could
   have 'serious environmental consequences." [National Audubon Society et al v. US
   Forest Service 4 F. 3d 832(9th Cir.  1993)].
   Such an absurd analysis of irreversible and irretrievable commitment of resources in
   the DEIS turns NEPA on its head.  To be  consistent with  this ridiculous roadless
   analysis, the DEIS should declare no irreversible or irretrievable loss of soils from the
   Mazama eruptions of 6,700 years ago because, at some future date, Mt. Hood, the
   Three Sisters, Rainier, Mt. Adams,  or some other volcano in the Cascades will erupt
   and redeposit a soil ash cap.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow, ID
   -#22.80.13100.621)

   RESPONSE:
   No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas.  Please see the
   Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Area, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter 3 of
   this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
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E. BY CONDUCTING SITE-SPECIFIC EIS ANALYSIS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN ROADLESS AREAS

   The DEIS  erroneously defers evaluation of the loss of potential wilderness from
   development of roadless areas. It is the Forest Service itself that set up the policy of
   site-specific EISs on  development of roadless area in the agency appeal decisions
   and subsequent court decisions on  the Idaho Panhandle and Flathead National
   Forests. In the court decision on the  IPNF Forest Ran appeal,  the judge concurred
   with the agency's argument that EISs would be prepared on development activities in
   roadless areas:" .  . .  any  future development which might take place (in roadless
   areas) will again be  determined by the Forest Service and will be subject to the
   requirements  of NEPA."  [Idaho  Conservation  League  v.  Mumma  21  E.L.R.
   20666,206668 (D. Mont 1990) upheld on appeal].
   The  above referenced case  is the  result of  a challenge to the forest plan's
   analysis/evaluation/allocation of roadless areas.   The court determined that it was
   the site-specific  decision,  not the  forest plan,  that analyzed  the  impacts of
   development on the roadless area and was, hence, the background document for a
   decision on  the fate of roadless areas (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
   Moscow, ID-#22.81.13100.621)

   RESPONSE:
   No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas. Please see the
   Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Area, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter 3 of
   this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
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166.   The Nez Perce National Forest should not harvest timber in roadless areas.
      Regarding the proposal to log in the basins of the American and Crooked Rivers -1 am
      strongly  opposed to  any logging in  roadless lands.    (Individual,  Seattle,  WA  -
      #8.1.34000.621)
      A. BECAUSE OF PLANNING AND THE FOREST SERVICE LAND ASSESSMENT
         The Forest Service's own land assessment indicated  there should not be logging or
         road building in the Meadow Creek Roadless Area. (Individual, Coeur D Alene, ID  -
         #11.4.34000.621)
         There should  be no logging or road building in  the  Meadow Creek Inventoried
         Roadless Area as per the Forest Service's own landscape assessment.
         The cumulative impacts of this timber sale plus the Whiskey South, Meadow Face,
         Red Pines, Blacktail Butte, and Eastside Township timber sales must be considered.
         (Individual,  San Francisco, CA - #31.2.34000.621)
         Please amend your plan to exclude logging  where roadless areas are involved.
         (Individual,  Seattle, WA-#8.4.34000.621)

         RESPONSE:
         No treatment is proposed in the West Meadow Creek inventoried Roadless Area.
         Please see the Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Area section
         in Chapter 3 of this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
                                         CJCSOS

      B. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS CLEAN AIR AND WATER
         There are resources of clean air and water that are protected when roadless forest is
         preserved.  The damage done by logging in these areas has been researched and
         recorded.  (Individual, Laguna Beach, CA - #20.2.34000.220)

         RESPONSE:
         No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas. Please see the
         Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter 3 of
         this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
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      C. BECAUSE MEADOW CREEK is A ROADLESS AREA
         There should  be no logging or road building in  the Meadow Creek inventoried
         roadless area.  Idaho does not need more roads. Why destroy our forests for greed.
         (Individual,  Moscow, ID-#4.1.34000.621)

         RESPONSE:
         No treatment is proposed in the West Meadow Creek Inventoried Roadless Areas.
         Please see the Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Area section
         in Chapter 3 of this FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
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D. BECAUSE THE AREA MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN PAST ROADLESS INVENTORIES

   With the current uncertainty surrounding the status of roadless areas, we encourage
   you to avoid logging in  any unroaded areas, which may or may not have been
   included in  inventories in the past (see South Fork Clearwater River Landscape
   Assessment).
   These areas provide many benefits to wildlife and forest health through their diversity
   of plant  life and tree variability,  whether or not they are inventoried by the Forest
   Service   or  not.     (Preservation/Conservation   Organization,   Boise,   ID  -
   #15.136.34000.621)

   RESPONSE:
   No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas.  Previous inventories were
   conducted to determine if areas have suitability for future Congressional designation
   as Wilderness.  These areas are  identified as Inventoried  Roadless Areas. There
   are protocols that are used to determine whether or not the area is suitable. The
   West Meadow Creek Inventoried  Roadless Area (#1845C) and the Dixie Summit-Nut
   Hill Inventoried Roadless Area (#1235) were identified as  not suitable for Wilderness
   based on the inventory criteria.   Please see the Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless
   Areas, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter 3 of this FEIS for effects to roadless
   areas.
                                     (J303U3

E. BECAUSE USING INSECT INFESTATION AND FIRE DANGER AS A JUSTIFICATION is
   CONTRADICTORY
   These forests exist in natural insect and fire regimes, which select for trees resistant
   to both natural forces.  Using insect infestation  and fire safety as justifications for
   entering these areas is  contradictory, since logging will increase the fire  danger
   through  subsequent soil  and slash drying, as well as high grade the most disease-
   resistant trees in indiscriminate clear cutting.  This squandering of natural capital for
   an essentially one-time harvest is characteristic of timber mining, not responsible
   forestry.
   I would  like to receive any scooping information on this project, and the draft and
   final EIS or EA.  (Individual, Minneapolis, MN - #32.3.34000.822)

   RESPONSE:
   Treated  areas would have short  term increase in fire hazard as stated in Chapter
   3, Section 3.4. - Fire in  the  FEIS, due to the logging slash, but this short term
   hazard will  be abated as the prescribed burning is completed and the fuel loads
   lowered.
   The same  process  of soil drying  and  slash accumulating is effectively  taking
   place in the stands  that  are  infested with the Mountain  Pine Beetles.  As trees
   are killed and the canopies opened more sunlight and wind  is allowed to reach
   the surface to warm the soil and slash.  Additionally as the trees loose their
    branches and/or fall over the fuel loadings are increasing to  the levels of a post
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          harvest fuel model.  These areas if not treated will also increase the fire hazard
          within these stands.
          The difference between this process happening naturally and through treatment is
          that in the natural scenario this fire hazard will remain high for a much longer time.
          Also in the natural scenario there will be no places that will modify the fire behavior
          and allow for suppression actions to be safely initiated as there would be under the
          proposed action.
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167.   The Nez Perce National Forest should not harvest timber in backcountry
      areas.

      Why would anyone even propose to log (aka thin or mechanically remove fuels) in the
      backcountry in an attempt to reduce wildfires? As a logging engineer by education, I can
      say without a doubt that thinning is logging, mechanical fuels reduction is logging, and
      salvage is logging.  Any time a tree (dead or alive) is  felled,  skidded, cut into logs,
      loaded,  and hauled on  a truck, it is logging.  Whether it is small trees or large trees,
      burned trees or green trees, it makes no difference.  I realize euphemistically, the Forest
      Service prefers to use the term "timber harvest" and "mechanical removal" rather than
      logging. (Individual,  Grangeville, ID-#30.1.34000.720)

      RESPONSE: Comment acknowledged
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      Roadless Areas and Wilderness Characteristics

168.   Th.e Nez Perce National Forest should conduct an analysis of the impacts
      of timber harvesting  on roadless and wilderness character.

      A.   It  doesn't  matter that the impacts  are  termed temporary; any impact  can be
          considered temporary.   The lack of analysis of the  impacts of logging and  other
          development on the wild and wilderness  character of the  roadless area and the
          absence of a specific time frame for recovery proves these are no mere temporary
          impacts,  particularly in the precise NEPA definition of temporary.
          Furthermore, the agency itself maintains logging and road building alters roadless
          areas  and wilderness character.  That is why there is a difference between roaded
          and roadless areas in agency policy.   (Preservation/Conservation Organization,
          Moscow, ID-#22.87.30300.621)

          Past case law is clear: EIS's are needed for roadless area development An EIS must
          be prepared to  take a  "hard look" at the cumulative impacts of allowing logging in
          these roadless areas,  (see Kleppe v. Sierra Club 427 U.S., 390, California v. Block
          and Save the Yaak Committee v. Block 840 E 2d)

          The cumulative  effects analysis  in the DEIS is no  real analysis.   There is no
          quantification of the impacts to roadless areas in terms of integrity, size, naturalness,
          wildness, or other roadless values. All the narrative provides is that unroaded areas
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         (no site-specifics are mentioned) will only be temporarily affected.  No site- specific
         acreage numbers or locations are given, just a mention of "various intensities."

         In essence, the site-specific and cumulative effects analysis does not enlighten us on
         the impacts to  roadless areas.  (Preservation/Conservation Organization, Moscow,
         ID-#22.85.30310.621)

         RESPONSE:
         No treatment is proposed in inventoried  Roadless Areas  or in Wilderness.  Please
         see the Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless  Areas, and Unroaded Area section in
         Chapter 3 of this FEIS.
                                          csoscs

      B. TO CONDUCT SITE SPECIFIC IMPACTS TO ROADLESS AREAS
         What the  agency is attempting to do is very deceitful.  It  is required to analyze the
         site-specific impacts to roadless areas.   The DEIS claims that the analysis of
         development and what it might mean for the wilderness suitability of the roadless
         areas will be deferred in a different context.  That is just opposite of what the law
         requires (NOTE:  NFMA requires a programmatic roadless area analysis at  each
         forest plan revision to look at wilderness potential and make recommendations in the
         plan, but the impacts from roadless area development must be analyzed at the site-
         specific   level).     (Preservation/Conservation  Organization,  Moscow,   ID  -
         #22.82.30300.621)

         RESPONSE:
         No treatment is proposed in inventoried Roadless Areas.  Please see the
         Wilderness, Inventoried Roadless Areas, and Unroaded Area section in Chapter 3 of
         the FEIS for effects to roadless areas.
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   And to designate the  Meadow Creek wilderness of 276,503 acres.   (Individual,
   Minneapolis, MN - #17.1.62200.200)

   RESPONSE:
    No additional wilderness designation has been recommended in the current Forest
   Plan.
                                  oaosc*
B. BECAUSE WILDERNESS is DISAPPEARING AND CANNOT BE VALUED IN DOLLARS
   Wilderness  is fast disappearing in the American west, and once gone, can never be
   restored.   The  value of these pristine stretches cannot be  measured in  dollars.
   (Individual, Laguna Beach, CA - #20.1.62200.711)

   RESPONSE:  Comment acknowledged.
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SECTION  13 - COMMENTS FROM THE  NEZ PERCE TRIBE
                                                                                     a 092
                                                              ..-..".'  ..  OCi 292003...
                                                                   NEZ PERCE NATIONAL FOREST
                                                         .>-••-.. QRANQeviLLH. IDAHO
                                             TRIBAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
                                            .'P.O. BOXaOS ,- LAPWAI, IDAHp 83540' » (208) -M3-3259 •
           Bm~ * -«-~ >»»» uA.ftvuuTe.Com&dtfM (NFIECX please accept this letter in
         •. i^ns* to your September .17,2003 request'foE comments oritteproposed-Americm and   '  •
           ppoked Rcver Project' Tqbal staflf are famlliar.wim the project 'area, and attended a pre^copin«
           field tour with Forest staff on August 28,2003, -. .-', '        '                '
           TteNezPerce Tijbe is                .sHi,ieouioi
           aearwwer River, inclndjng Crooked and American Rivers. This area holds tremendous ctdtaral
           significance for Ihe Ncz Perec Tribe. Despite' 4e recent history of mining, logging, and road
           «nstructfcm!lkttiMUdt64iinimsliM^
           centqTy,.salmon and steelhead dan.still be'foijad-ln t&se riyers. The Tribe has invested
           cwisjAsable resources to restore and, we-hope,-iprotc^ ttie.natjvc fisheries iri-and-'downsfream
           ftotntiw project artfa. 11ius,'aie Tribe takes« very keen interest in the Forest's proposed
          'activities in tho South Fork Clearwater River.    .   ' .  '  '     '    •   .  •     .

           1-    Purpoge and ffcfl^ •  •        •             ! ..•  •     '             '  ' '

         • Ikeistited purpose and need of'file Americmand Crooked River Project is'to: (1) reduce
          eMsting-and. potential forest .fuels, (2) create conditions tiat will contribute to sustaining long-
          lived fire tolerant species, and'i(3) oontnbute to 4e economic and social .well being of people  •
          whpiiseandresidewitbmthiesiaroundingarea. The ifesPerce Tribe recommends fihat the
                 <                            i of this jn^Ject to inctade aggressive watershed
                                                               L salmonids/
          Of dbieCconcem to the Tribe is thatthjs 'project appeal? t^-be designed whoUy from the
          perspective of economies and industrial logging. 'During the field tour the Trib6 questioned why
         . the Forest designed such a. narrow^propose and .need for a project in an area that so richly, jieeds a
          gentler touch.. Tie porpose and need should not onty consist of "ecosystem heaWi" of the forest
          system but thc'primary purpose of me project should inctade enhancement of critical salmonid
          habitat '•".-..•            •      .      .  '       '     •   .       •

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             Iftfl" ttt1 11* HA Oh 40 «*»Wl*^ At.*	•  .  	, ,.  —•,  *         • >    ,   .*" " f ' .
                      ..                                    p'
    to construct many miles of new road construction; to «ffl!zi.silvicul.fttfal prescnptions-that 1^
    Wee clewcut logging, and to make multiple frictor cntriek acres, Bearty.40,000 awes. The Forest .
                                  sea^risTcto^                         « .
                                    .-.•.."  I           ".'•.•'..'"'
                                                                               .•
    ifie^c^proixwestomidgatotherfSxte^floggii^toa^
    quality fish babtet of fte aVca ttodugfi an iindisclosed toinbinktion of miUgatioa measures such
                                                             .
  .  tows to Shade streams. Chvcn Ae dinfinfahffll s^ste of cdstJngaquatio-conditic>ns.theTt£biJ^
    teappoiwted that the Fonat is placjog a tower prior%.oi tkcse efforts, kathe^'ihatt putting
    aggressive watershed ttetoratioQ efiforts as a central piiq>b$eandniedinthepi»nb^c^               of critical watpr.
                                   '                  '
                                                                            .
   resources. .Ecosysteaa heahU necessarily'iodiid^ enhanccmcnt'of criticai aateonidliabitat The
   V**™** ?*?"**** »*« watewbeds ii««*^y-ite^thefore^(i:e.mettw»and . "
,   vegetatww) and the hydrologfc propel. Any "edosystemWth^Dioject should include
   Crooked1 River watersheds. •
                                          ^
                                                       '
   toa                                   -8rc^^
  :pj2h^^ spi^wseattdncedofaggre^e'wa^eyreatoratio^ Therefore, the
   Fores^ should consider ahematives that take every oortiinir to naSr the i
   AmerlcanaadCrooJcedRJvcr.
                                           Cumulative effects of flus project must be
                   tfon wth^asl and foreseeable future actions, as well asictioos that haw
  occurred m geograpaic proximiry to the proposed project:       .
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 .3.   . - Noxious Weeds
 •As tribal staffrjoied dinfagthrfpnbKc field tarn; 4e.Th1)eiav«y'<»iu:ertiad about tiieinmact
  tfajs project will have ooxwxkraa wwd Smukm in ^.project area, We Tribe questions the
  F<>^'* past awl cun^swe^
  loggirig projects, particularly Clcwcnts.- ^ming-fhe field.toiir, staff from die Forest indicated that
  while -wpcds are a major concern in current fbrestiiftmagement, spbtted knapweed {$ naturalized
  m thep^ect atro/Sudh^:stateaneots;cp|icen».tn^
  to ag^essively treat or present flirflw inVaaiatt of IkaapweeA . How many acres of directwbed
  management is.undcrtaleen eadi year on this feangei District? HM Tribe is veiy concerned  '
  aDOTtfiiewvalierai^tpaohtakmbyaieFoirertwitbttspe^
 Proposes dreatmcit'Qfmoxio^ weed p(^afions ^ere feasHJlo/' Hawfeari
 requires a calculus of some fand-r-wfaedier sometfu4g is fea^le or i»t^l depends tow hi^i
 of % jjnority nonoua wi^.cuttaftment is to dwForept .If th* Forest deteanines thai it is not .   .
 feasible to remove raustiagpopuMoos-of weeds, exactly what steps wfllT» taken to see ithat
 additional'poputefioiis are not created with ftef.pioject area?  .   .'.  .
 4.'.
- The Tribe is also coocemed about the project' s-irapscts to sojl conditions.- Just'souai of the Nez
 Pero'NationaiFflttestthe^yetteN^
 ftom its tractor logging project*. /ThePayeae lias lfbflndthatmm(A cases studied, fljey were.
 tinabte to meet Regional soil standards, la wfaay cases fli« detriiaeaital 'disturbance after brash
 piliiigwas40%a^;bigneT^npre«^tw^^                      The Tribe questions
 whether the Nez Perec Natioaai Forest can do"bctter. . ,   .'   •           •  •     '  "

.5-.    Water Yiei'dg '  '      . -     '.  ,   . •  '    '•   '   •   -   :  '• .-    ''    '      '.'

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  6- '   Prepare an BJS    '     ''    • ,•,   ;':  '."'..'        •'•.'•'•     "...-•''

  As notad.«bove, the'.Tnbeis concerned with theFpresfs management philosophy of these ttro
  important waterghedfr-nanifily that Jfaere is a ye^lUBTOWpuqKJSe and neodwhidi floes not
  address flw Tribe's purpose and need of aggre^vo.waterBh^rtstoratum.- The Trifee 'welcomes-
  fwther difiCBSsions on this pipint In themean tuoe^-'theKcz Perec Tribe'strongly encourages flic
  Forest to analyze to propose^ action and a reasonable icange of alternatives through fat
  pr^aratioa of an «ttvirc»inental impact Statement (EIS);         •    '    '  '  -

  fffiPA requires {bat an acting agency prepare an-J5IS.for aU "major federal actions significantly .
  affecting the quality of tte human eflvironrneat.'f 42 US.C. § 4332(2XQ. Prspararion of an BIS
  in Sw American and Croofasd River Ihpqject woiflid serve two purposes; (1) to provide fcrest
  m^agers witfc enough Jnfonnadpri to aid in the siibstanrivif decision whether to proceed with the
  project in light of ^potential environmenfal consequences; and (2)'to provide the'publlc with
                                     '
  information wmcenungllie project, andan'cjpcitanrtytopafticirmteinrnega^eringof^
  taformation. 40 OFJR. § 1502, 1; see oho Cfdifornla-v. Block, 690 f^d 753, 761 (9&'Ctr. IS
1982).
  To determine wheflier the i project will have a significant impacti flbe'Forest must coaiidte the
  context and intensity of te actions. 40 CLF.R. § 1508JZ7. CEQjcgutetions'fiirthcr define   -
  intensity as the severity of flwuhpact   ••"''!.       '        .       '     . - •
                                           sarie«
                                   .'as\..w/<^                       .
       degree to- which flic possible effects on the human environment are/highly
       .uncertain or involve unique or un^ewn-ri^ .me'degrec mat the action may set
    ,   prec«lemrbT&raier.a<^onswim*gnfficantimp^
      • action may afrenefy eflfca an endangered or threatened species or its habitat
       that has .bcea determined critical  •                  '•     " .

 40 CJ?JL § l!508^7j>>{«n5>h8sis added). -ReTiew. of m« America? and Crooked River
 I^ectuidiiagicafly cr^ical spawhing^groiinds for
 anadromous salrnonida species (L«.-sJeelhead toout and chmook sahnqn) hi'flie Soith
 Fork qearwater/Riva- drainagis. The protection and enhancement of 'criticai habitat is
 essential for, the salmon, w.hich are of ngnificant concern ibrflie Nez Perec Tribe and the
. people of tfK Northwest- Snake River steelheaddre listed as threatened under the- •       '
 Endangered Species Act (ESA). Tr^e.waferaheds also proyide'crifrcal habitat for   .
 wcstslope cutthroat trout and bull trout. The project will affect ecologically sensitive
 a»as ia the Amerie*ri.and Crookad River watersheds that provide essential spawning
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  grounds for native salmonid .species.','-    '."'•.'..-•        •' .        -   '"'•
                     '^M.to^^^
                     s of riparian areas and baniera, accumulation of silt in streams
  croacm, ete.).tfaat may result in'the o^adation of critical fish habitat and water quality
  Furflierdeadatioiiiofticsewaterrfw.is unacceptable dns'to their significsice in the'
        b.     UpiiTfly ftr TTi|||-r||«wn Rislcg''-'  '  ••: •
 recomaieDds.that :fte Forest Service Jaepafe an BIS to better understand the khmcdiiue
 and cwrohavenslcs this.p»ject wiUhavc ori ifae^cal fishery habitat in tbcsc
                                             '
 Forest Service plans to utilize; to enhance- andprotect critical haSitaf 'An BS is also
             u
 ^de^jBhRp^edentfcr.redm^gpubnXre^ewMidenvirciinie^          •
 fiiture confiovwsijil-pwjects fiiat affect fbw-orMcaihabitet of salmotudspccies:'. By-not
 prepannganEIS fteForest ^e^y^^sef^yKts^prc^^f^^pr^gEI
 msitoabona classified astestoratioo e                     -
prepannganEIS fteForest ^e^y^^sef^yKts^prc
msitoabona classified as.testoratioaor ecosyflem heSltfa proj

S^^ ^JC? v"^11 *° ^.^^de^iwstoration
                     .                                 .

S^^ ^JC? v"^11 *° ^.^^de^iwstoration or ecosysterVhealth project
.inpse ecosystem health projects do have significant efifecte.on the salmonid critical
hab^ andanElS is needed ^consider aH ajternativea.as wcU as public comments
cpnceaningdiJs project.   :      .  •       '''..•••            •    •
      *•    - - AdVBrae EfFects on Hndflnjfon^ or Threatened Specie?; .


               co » ^etemwled by Wdflgreeto'^nichthe action pay adversely

              C^t^B
         ni
      .Cb9). The iWKJbeHeyw that the Anwrican and Crooked River Projectwilf
nave a sigmficant effect on &e salmonid species and;SaImonid criticai haWtat-'-Snakc ' -
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' River steelhead are listed under die ESU. and'are.a-treatyrreserved,rcsource pf the Nez . •
  Perce Tribe; Theri^X*eT^b«tofi^g^rirotectioaoftlics«^>ecieshaslc)ng  .
  been recpgoized by the United Statei. "Tie right'to resort to, ..fiahiog place?. ..was a
.  part of laxger rights possessed by the Indians,-upon which there was^not'a shadow of ..
  impediment..." tfttitedStates v. Wtnaw, 198 VS. 371,381 (1905). To protect the
  Tribe's rights to this precious resource, it is essential that the Forest prepare artEIS that
  thoroughly, considers .the adverse effects the project will likaly have on salrnomd species
  and their critical habitat. Tbaa, tte'Tribe^tr^nglyreconmiends that ftc Forest Service
  prepare an EIS. / •             ',    .  ".   •. '  ...    .'    .   •   >

 ,7.   .. Clean Water j\ct  .        -    ••.,••'.

  Under the CJ6an Water Act,,thc South' Forlj.Clearwater River is a 303(d) listed .water
  quality'limit^streom for sedimcmtidnaj^faanper^                           • .
•  issued, and calls for a 25% miictioa '(ffon'enstmg conditions) ui'sedirnent generated by
  tuman aotiyity. While'tte dreft TMDL does not qjwntifyaediment reductions ia;tihe key.
  tribiitanes, comiaoa sense dictates that'this is where the reductions must occur in order to
  zneet.tiie'goals ofthc.TMDL. The TnTwikgestbc'Pprest to closely analyze the likely
  sedimentRtion ef this project anil to lay put ».sttaiegy for how this project implements the
  draft TMDL's-goal of a'^%iedac^oa in sclent,-particularly iali^ht of other present
  and ongoing activities planned in the South Folk ClcarwaterRiver.
                        '     :     •"'.'-
  8.     Cumulative Effects,   '     •  ,'   ,  •        •'.'•':..•

  'As noted throughout this conuneot letter toe Tribe is concerned with the project's likely
  adverse effects to diminished fisheries and watershed cdnditionsr The American and ,
•  (^ked'RivorP^ectujustoiicbffbw
  ClewvatoRn^ Whisky Sou&                                      The   ;   .
  cumulative effects of Qua large1 scale timber iakvesV wifl' unquestionably have adverse
  cumulative effects to aquatic integrity within the tributanesanddownstream to the Sootb ;
  Fork Clear\yater River.-. The Forest must closely analyze .the cumulative effects of. each
  oftnescand.o^herpa^i«*sent,reaso^ly6^                                  .
  and federal agencies. Tbisaaaly^s'must alwuK:lnd«  an .aquatics analysiis of pri^^
  timber operations and-livestock grazing.   .  '  .••  •  •'•'  '    •
* -           ' ' *        "      • •   *   '*                • .'      ,
  Sincerely,             .•'•••..''           '     '   •      •   -
. AmhonyTX Johnson
Cchairraan  •
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  United Statet        Forest         Neat Perce National Forest          Route 2, Bo* 475
  Department of       Servke                                       GnutgevtUe, ED 83530
  Agriculture                                                      208 983-1950
 	             208 983-2280 TTY

                                                        File Code:  1950-1
                                                                  April 6,2004
 Honorable Anthony Johnson, Chairman
 Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee
 Box 305
 Lapwai, ID 83540

 Dear Chairman Johnson:

 In the interest of govemment-to-govemment consultation and cooperation, this letter is intended to update
 you on the progress being made with the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the American
 and Crooked River Project and to express my desire to engage in further coordination relative to the
 project. The principal focus of this letter will be on the correspondence we received from you dated
 October 29,2003 at the beginning of the project development.

 First, I want to express my sincere appreciation for the involvement and communication from your staff,
 particularly Ira Jones, Scott Althouse, Stephanie Bransford, and Dave Johnson. Their efforts have
 increased our awareness and understanding of Tribal perspectives and concerns, particularly your deeply
 held conviction to protect and restore the anadromons fish of the South Fork Clearwater River.

 Background
 Over the course of last summer  and fall, field crews conducted surveys and investigations within and
 surrounding the project area for the purpose of defining fish and wildlife habitat, watershed and
 headwater conditions, culvert and stream crossing improvement needs on existing roads, vegetative
 conditions and trends, cultural resources, sensitive plant locations and protection strategies, and weed
 population locations and associated risks among many other things. Nez Perce Tribe crews, under the
 supervision of Stephanie Bransford, conducted culvert surveys in Crooked River last summer, as well,
 and furnished valuable information, which helped us identify watershed improvement opportunities.

 Based on this information, the project area was defined and the nature and purpose of the project was
 framed. Prior to developing the project proposal, the Forest invited Tribal representatives to take part in a
 field review of the area to discuss issues and conditions leading to the need for a proposal. Mr. Jones and
 Mr. Althouse participated. Shortly following the  field trip, the proposed action was made available to the
 Tribe for comment.

 Since we received your comments on the initial proposal, our interdisciplinary team has been busy
 considering your comments, in detail, while developing alternatives to the original proposal and analyzing
 the effects of those alternatives.  1 believe I can now shed some light on how the project is progressing
 with respect to the issues raised  in your letter.

 Purpose and Need and Range of Alternatives
 The Forest Land and Resource Management.Plan provides the overarching management direction,
 including standards and guidelines for achieving fish and water quality objectives. In addition, our
 interest in respecting the Nez Perce Tribe's treaty rights, according to policies outlined in the Forest
 Service Manual (FSM 1563), combined with Clean Water Act and Endangered Species Act
 considerations would move this project to include a substantial component of water quality and fish
 habitat improvement actions. We are proposing our action within this context. All action alternatives for
                              Caring for the Land and Serving People
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the American and Crooked River Project are being developed with restoration that would go beyond
merely maintaining existing water quality and fish habitat conditions. While the amount of restoration
and habitat improvement varies by alternative (some being more aggressive than others), each of the
restoration proposals would treat a range of factors that are currently limiting water quality and fish
habitat.

The interdisciplinary team was instructed to address the project objectives in a manner that would limit
risks to watershed and wildlife resources. Although the amount of management activity varies by
alternative, none of the alternatives being considered in detail in the DEIS would involve harvest units or
fuel treatment units within Riparian Habitat Conservation Areas (RHCA's) or high hazard landslide prone
areas. There is no permanent road construction proposed. There would be no harvest or road
construction planned within old growth areas or inventoried roadless areas. All roads would be temporary
and would be removed promptly following use on this project. Temporary road construction and removal
would occur as a condition of the implementing contracts associated with the project, i.e., the timber sale
and/or stewardship contracts. Temporary roads would be located to minimize effects on RHCA's and
would involve few, if any, live stream crossings.

I understand that these watersheds are vitally important to many people, and particularly important to the
Nez Pence Tribe and its members. While meeting project objectives, our intent is to respect treaty
resources and provide substantial opportunities for watershed and fish habitat restoration.

Noxious Weeds
Approximately 300 acres of priority weeds were treated on the Red River/ Elk City Ranger District during
Fiscal Year 2003. As you are aware, the Nez Perec National Forest is involved  in a community-based
weed strategy for the Ciearwater River Basin. This community-based partnership has developed
objectives and priorities for weed management in the basin. The partnership includes local counties, state
and federal agencies and the Nez Perec Tribe. The Forest weed management program is integrated with
the Ciearwater Basin Weed Management Area focus. Neither the Ciearwater Basin Weed Management
Area Steering Committee nor the Nez Perce National Forest view spotted knapweed as naturalized in the
Ciearwater Basin. One of the priorities for tine South Fork Ciearwater River area is to eradicate satellite
infestations of invasive plants including knapweed.

The Forest is currently analyzing the project area in relation to invasive plants. This analysis includes
current infestation, habitat susceptibility, risk of spread, and mitigation measures for the project.

Soils
We share your concern for potential detrimental soil disturbance in this project.  Since more than half of
the acres to be treated are on slopes less than thirty-five percent, and are planned for harvest and slash
disposal using ground-based equipment, care must be taken to design and administer these operations to
keep soil disturbance within the parameters identified in the Forest Plan.  The interdisciplinary team has
been instructed to develop adequate measures and mitigation to protect the soil resource. These measures
will be identified and analyzed in the DEIS, as part of the restoration package.  In addition, the DEIS will
analyze options, as part of the restoration package, to restore soils that may remain in a detrimentally
disturbed condition from past activities.

Water Yield
The American and Crooked River watersheds comprise approximately 104,000 acres, total. This project
proposes to create clearcut-type openings on between 600-1200 acres, depending upon the alternatives
being considered. This is a very small percentage of the watershed acres. There would be an additional
1000-1800 acres of partial canopy removal.  We consider water yield at a variety of scales.  Our initial
review indicates the proposed activities will be below thresholds of concern, overall, within the two
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watersheds regarding timing and quantities of water flow.  We are assessing the potential for exceeding
any thresholds of concern at the  sub-watershed level (Forest Plan Prescription Watersheds), as well,
including cumulative  effects with other planned  actions  in the area.  The  interdisciplinary team  is
considering the existing stand conditions, including previously harvested areas, in making their analysis
of water yield.

Preparation of an EIS
The American and Crooked River watersheds are important for their high values to anadromous and
resident fish, as well as other wildlife species. Considering the rationale you presented in your letter in
addition to comments received by others, the Forest is preparing an Environmental Impact Statement for
the American and Crooked River Project.

Clean Water Act
The project will strive to conform to State of Idaho water quality requirements in effect at the time the
Record of Decision is issued, including TMDL's. In order to meet the Forest Plan standards, the project
would produce an upward trend in fish habitat and water quality conditions as a result of the combined
effects of all planned activities. This will result in, among other habitat improvements, a net decrease in
sediment yield from the affected sub-watersheds within the project area and from the project area as a
whole.

Cumulative Effects
Our cumulative effects analysis will take into consideration a long list of actions that have occurred, are
currently active, or are reasonably foreseeable on the federally managed lands as well as on the private
lands in the upper South Fork Clearwater River.  These projects include Whiskey South, Red Pines (this
project now includes Red River Salvage), and Eastside Township Project (new BLM proposal).

Funding for Habitat Restoration
Although you did not mention this topic  in your letter, the question of how we plan to fund the habitat
restoration component of this project has come up several times in discussions with representatives of the
Nez Perec Tribe. At this time, I can only share the funding mechanisms we plan to pursue since it is
premature to commit to funding of restoration until the NEPA planning phases of the project are complete
and we know the costs involved. A range of restoration alternatives is being considered with differing
costs and effects.  Also, the various types of implementation contracting that may be used, such as
stewardship, service, or timber sale contracts, offer differing options to apply funds generated toward
restoration activities.  In general, we plan to pursue the following funding sources:
    *   Appropriated funding for restoration is being requested for fiscal year 2005 and beyond through
        the earmarks and reserves process, which is part of the Regional Office, program and budget
        planning process. We currently  are preparing a request for American and Crooked River as well
        as Red River, which will be submitted in early April.
    •   As the project gets closer to becoming final, I plan to work with the North Central Idaho
        Resource Advisory Committee to seek financial support for restoration.
    *   We are designing road improvements and decommissioning of existing roads to occur and be paid
        for as part of the action where such roads would be used for hauling or removing products from
        the land.
    •   Where product values would exceed costs for logging, fuel treatments, reforestation, removal of
        temporary roads constructed for the purposes of the action, etc. (we are closely watching the
        efficiencies of these measures), we will consider the option to use stewardship contracting which
        would allow us to direct generated funds toward restoration activities.
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    •  In the process of completing the project proposal, we would likely approve an array of restoration
       projects that would be over and above what is considered as mitigation. We believe such projects
       would compete well for BPA funding or other grant funding sources.


Finally, I want you to know that your letter and our subsequent contacts with Tribal representatives have
been helpful to our team in developing alternatives to the original proposed action. Your efforts to
engage in the development of this project are deeply appreciated If you or any of the Tribal
subcommittees or staff wish to discuss the project in greater detail either prior to the release of the DEIS
or shortly thereafter, please let me know. Our current schedule would produce a DEIS in about a month.
In the mean time, our project leader, Phil Jahn, will continue to work with the Tribal representatives
mentioned previously.

Sincerely,
/$/ Bruce E. Berahardt
BRUCE E. BERNHARDT
Forest Supervisor

  cc: Natural Resources Subcommittee
     David Johnson, Fisheries Department
     Ira Jones, Watershed Department
     Regional Forester
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                                    TRIBAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
                                    P.O. BOX 305 • LAPWAI, IDAHO 83540 • {208)843-2253
July 21,2004

American and Crooked River Project
Nez Perce National Forest
Attn: Phil Jahn
Route 2, Box 475
Grangeville, ED 83530

Sent via email to: comments-northem-nezperoe(@fe.fed.us

       RE:   Tribal Comments on the DEIS for the American anj Crooked River Project

Dear Phil:

On behalf of the Nez Perce Tribe, (hank you for coming to Lapwai on Tuesday, July 6,2004 to
meet with the Natural Resources Subcommittee and conduct a govcrnment-to^govemment
consultation for the American and Crooked River Project (the Project). As you know, tribal staff
have been in dose coordination with you on this Project, first by attending a public field tour last
summer, then by reviewing and commenting on the scoping proposal,' and through continued
discussion with you throughout the development of this Project The Tribe truly appreciates your
diligent efforts to consult with us on this Project.  The South Fork Clearwater River is a critically
important area where tribal members routinely exercise treaty rights to fish, hunt, camp, and
gather. The Tribe urges you to evaluate this and all other projects on the impacts to treaty
reserved resources and their habitats.

Project Pesjjgn

The Tribe understands that the Forest designed this Project in a fashion that avoids timber
harvest in old growth areas and in inventoried roadless areas, and is designed to minimize
impacts to riparian habitat conservation areas (RHCAs), while avoiding high hazard landslide
prone areas. In those respects, the Tribe views this Project as an improvement over recent
projects where the Forest has proposed risky land management in these sensitive areas, justified
by faulty modeling and biased analysis. Fulfillment of the Forest Service's trust responsibility to
protect treaty reserved resources occurs on (he ground, not through justification or analysis on
paper.  Therefore, the Tribe is encouraged by the design of this Project and we encourage you to
       'The Tribe's scoping comments are incorporated herein by reference.
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use a similar or more protective approach for all future projects on the Forest.  However, in light
of all activities planned along the South Fork of the Clearwater River, the litmus test for tribal
support of this Project will be whether implementation provides an upward trend in water quality
and fish habitat as required by the forest plan for the Nez Perce National Forest.

Cumulative Effects to the South Fork Clearwater River

As we discussed in our meeting on July 6, the Tribe remains vitally concerned about the
cumulative effects that continued logging and road building has on water quality and fish habitat
in the South Fork Clearwater River.  As you know, our Fisheries Department has made
substantial investments in watershed restoration throughout the South Fork, and conducts
numerous outplantings of salmon and steelhead from our Newsome Creek satellite facility
associated with the Nez Perce Tribal Hatchery.

The Tribe was also a key player in the development of the TMDL for the South Fork Clearwater
River.  The TMDL sets specific sediment reduction targets for the upper South Fork. Unit 36,
which is the uppermost unit listed for the South Fork and includes American River, has a
sediment load reduction target of 25%. This unit is directly upstream of the mouth of Crooked
River.  Unit 30 is the segment below the mouth of Crooked River to Ten-mile  Creek and also
requires a 25% reduction in sediment. Although the TMDL does not call for specific reductions
of sediment in specific tributaries to the South Fork, clearly that is the Tribe's expectation and it
is the only practical way to achieve the sediment reduction targets of the TMDL.

With numerous timber sales and road building being planned along the South Fork by the Forest
Service, the Bureau of Land Management, and by private industry, the Tribe remains concerned
about how this Project meets the requirements of the TMDL.  Fn contrast, the extensive land
management proposals along the South Fork will inhibit this critical watershed from recovery of
excess sediment and high temperatures. Under  the TMDL, the American River unit #36 is in
violation of the maximum weekly mean temperature standard. Although no specific temperature
reduction targets are set, the TMDL sets shade targets as a surrogate measure for temperature.
Yet the extensive logging and road building proposed by this  Project and other projects along the
South Fork will further retard the attainment of riparian management objectives (RMOs) in
sensitive riparian habitat conservation areas (RHCAs). Such management inhibits the watershed
from recovery by maintaining high temperatures and limiting recruitment of large woody debris.

Maximum Watershed Restoration

The Tribe urges the Forest Service to adopt an action alternative that is gentle on the land scape
and maximizes watershed restoration in an aggressive manner.  American River and Crooked
River are two important watersheds that support dwindling populations of salmon and steelhead.
These two watersheds are also primary sources  of sediment to the South Fork Clearwater River.
Therefore, any management undertaken by the Forest Service should focus on  an aggressive plan
to reduce sediment and recover these watersheds and improving habitat for threatened fisheries.
Review of the DEIS indicates that Alternative E proposes the most watershed restoration
opportunities. Therefore, the Tribe urges you to implement Alternative E.
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Contracting Mechanisms and Tribal Participation

As was expressed at the Subcommittee meeting, the Tribe is very interested in participating in
the implementation and monitoring of the watershed restoration work identified in Alternative E.
As you know, our Watershed Division has a strong record of working with the Forest Service on
watershed restoration projects such as road obliteration, culvert replacement, riparian plantings,
and watershed monitoring.  We would like to expand our partnership throughout the Project area.

We understand that the Forest Service is actively considering using the stewardship contracting
authority to implement this Project. To mat end, we are aware of two stewardship workshops
that you are planning for July 22 and 23.  Tribal staff will attend.  However, it is unlikely that the
Tribe would be a primary contractor for this Project; therefore, we urge you to help us identify
opportunities for tribal implementation of the watershed restoration work and monitoring.

Fireproofing Elk City

The Tribe remains concerned about the purpose and need for this project. One rationale is to
reduce the risk of a catastrophic wild fire to the surrounding community of Elk City. However,
review of the DEIS reveals that the proposed timber units are pretty far away and therefore
unlikely to reduce the fire risk to Elk City. A second rationale for the Project is to address the
pine beetle infestations in the lodgepole stands.  Dead, dying, and at risk stands are proposed for
harvest The Tribe remains skeptical about die need to treat such stands, as fire and insect
infestations are part of the natural stand replacement cycle for lodgepole pine, and these
watersheds are well within their historic range of variability.

Conclusion

The Tribe questions how the Forest Service can meet its trust responsibility to protect treaty
reserved resources and their habitats when there is currently planned well over 100 tnmbf of
timber sales and 50 miles of new roads in the South Fork Clearwater River. These projects place
unnecessary and cumulative risks to already threatened fisheries and impaired water quality.  We
urge you to take a hard look at the sedimentation effects of this and all other projects across the
entire watershed, not just in me specific tributaries of American and Crooked River.

Sincerely,
Anthony D. Johnson, Chairman
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United States
Department of
Agriculture
Forest
Service
Nez Peree National Forent
Route 2, Box 475
Grangevule, ID 83530
208 983-1950
208 983-2280 TTY
                                                   File Code:  1950-1
                                                       Date:  November 19,2004

 Honorable Anthony Johnson
 Chairman
 Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee
 Box 305
 Lapwai, ID 83540

 Dear Chairman Johnson:

 Continuing our government-to-govemment consultation regarding the American and Crooked
 River Project (the project) on the Nez Perce National Forest, I am writing to provide an update
 and offer some thoughts regarding the issues and concerns you raised in your July 21,2004
 letter.

 Since our last letter to you on this subject in April (enclosed), your staff; particularly Ira Jones,
 Scott Althouse, and Dave Johnson remained engaged in the project and offered many valued
 observations and suggestions that have strengthened the project.  For this, I am deeply
 appreciative. We also gained valuable insights from our meeting with the Natural Resources
 Subcommittee in July, when we presented our Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for
 the project It is my desire that we schedule an additional meeting with the Subcommittee or
 with NPTEC in early December to further discuss our proposal prior to issuing the Final EIS and
 Record of Decision.

 The Nez Perce Tribe and the Forest share many common goals for managing the resources of the
 South Fork Clearwater River.  We share a history of working together to achieve those goals.
 Recent examples include completing the Newsome Creek Watershed Assessment, our joint
 submission of restoration proposals to the Idaho Office of Species Conservation, our cooperative
 restoration efforts in Newsome Creek, Meadow Creek, Mill Creek, and upper Red River,
 working together to complete subbasin assessments for the Salmon and Clearwater Rivers, joint
 participation in the South Fork Clearwater River Watershed Advisory Group, joint participation
 in the Clearwater Basin Weed Management Partnership, and our mutual efforts to implement the
 satellite components of the Nez Perce Tribal Hatchery. The Forest recognizes the critical
 importance of the South Fork Clearwater River (SFCR) and its resources to the members of the
 Nez Perce Tribe who routinely exercise treaty rights in the area.

 With this perspective, I will address the following issues and concerns you brought to my
 attention  in your letter dated July 21,2004.

 Project Design
 Much of  the area surrounding Elk City, including the American and Crooked River watersheds,
 is experiencing a rapid and extensive die-off of mature lodgepole pine due to the mountain pine
 beetle.  This is resulting in substantial increases in hazardous forest fuels and losses of potential
 economic value in the trees-that are experiencing mortality and deterioration. The purpose of the
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project is to reduce existing and potential forest fuels, create conditions that will contribute to
sustaining long-lived fire tolerant tree species, and contribute to the social and economic well-
being of people who use, and reside within, the area.

The project uses timber harvest to accomplish fuel reduction. The project also includes a robust
restoration component, designed by our watershed and fisheries resource specialists, which wilt
result in a long-term improvement in water quality and fish habitat when combined with the
following design elements that limit overall risks to aquatic resources.

The project would not treat fuels, harvest timber, or construct temporary roads in old growth
areas, inventoried roadless areas, riparian habitat conservation areas (RHCA's), or areas with
landslide prone characteristics. Widely dispersed temporary road spurs, generally shorter than
three quarters of a mile in length and located on stable sites, would be used to access units and
landings, where necessary, then obliterated shortly after the intended uses. There would be no
permanent roads constructed with this project.

The American and Crooked River Project planning team put a great deal of effort into designing
this project to recognize the importance of watershed restoration and balance fish and wildlife
needs with the other purposes of the project. We appreciate the positive tone of your comments
regarding project design.

In your letter, you encourage the Forest to,".. .use a similar or more protective approach for all
future projects on the Forest"  Since receiving your letter, I have instructed the Red Pines
interdisciplinary team to apply a similar framework of design features to (hat proposed project in
the upper SFCR in order to provide a reasonable expectation that an upward trend hi water
quality and fish habitat can be achieved for the Red River watershed.

Cumulative Effects to the SFCR
Our consultation efforts with the Nez Perce Tribe as well as others who commented on the DEIS
have resulted in a much more comprehensive evaluation of cumulative effects. We are analyzing
the effects of past and ongoing activities in as much detail as our records allow in addition to
evaluating anticipated effects from proposed projects that we believe are reasonably foreseeable.
The geographic context of this analysis is the entire SFCR drainage, as suggested in your letter.

Cumulative effects are a major concern to us. Fish habitat in these watersheds is functioning
below estimated natural potential, due in part, to residual adverse cumulative effects of past
activities that have occurred over the past century. The project addresses existing limiting
factors related to past activities, through restoration, which would result in more rapid fish
habitat recovery than would likely occur through natural processes.

State of Idaho Water Quality Standards, Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL)
The long-term effects of this project on sediment and temperature are positive. Planned
watershed restoration activities would reduce sediment in all watersheds and would maintain or
reduce temperatures. The project would maintain or improve existing shade and potential for
large woody debris recruitment through avoidance of vegetation treatments and temporary road
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 construction within RHCA's and by planting trees and shrubs along stream reaches where
 existing vegetation and shade is sparse.

 On September 30, the Forest received a letter from the Idaho Department of Environmental
 Quality regarding the project stating, "The information contained with in the DEIS appears to be
 consistent with the intent of this TMDL and the agreement between State and Federal Agencies
 regarding impacts to this water body."

 Maximum Watershed Restoration
 Consultation with the Tribe and others who commented on the DEIS, indicated strong support
 for increasing emphasis on watershed restoration within, the project  Based on this response, I
 intend to increase the emphasis on restoration. Our economic analysis indicates that potential
• revenues generated from Alternative D, of the DEIS, would be sufficient, under stewardship
 contracting authorities, to implement most of the restoration component of Alternative £ if
 timber harvest involving the lodgepole stands can be accomplished before  insect mortality
 progresses to the point that economic value is lost. Considering these factors, I am developing a
 Record of Decision that would maintain, as a requirement, the full amount of restoration
 identified in Alternative D and authorize implementation of additional watershed restoration
 activities, as identified in Alternative E, depending upon availability of funds.

 Contracting Mechanisms and Tribal Participation
 I view the American and Crooked River Project, when approved, as an opportunity to expand our
 partnership in watershed restoration. I intend to use stewardship contracting authorities to
 implement portions of the project During late winter and early spring, 2005, the Forest will be
 compiling the information necessary to develop a stewardship contract that focuses on Crooked
 River. Following that, we will evaluate additional stewardship contracting opportunities in the
 area, including the American River portion of this project.

 I hope that representatives from the Nez Perce Tribe who attended our stewardship contracting
 workshop in July found it to be informative and helpful in understanding possible roles for the
 Tribe in such endeavors. 1 believe the Nez Perce Tribe has much to offer in the areas of
 reforestation and watershed restoration. My staff and I will continue to explore opportunities
 with you and others who may be working in partnership with us.

 Fireproofmg Elk City
 Through coordination with Idaho County, we have identified several communities and/or
 residential areas in the vicinity of the project where fuel reduction is a priority (reference
 enclosed letter from Idaho County). This priority is being addressed by the American and
 Crooked River Project and by smaller defensible space projects mat have been approved or are
 being planned.  Treating and removing hazardous forest fuels in order to reduce the risks to life,
 property, and resources, in the event of a large fire, is among the objectives of the project  Risk
 reduction would be accomplished by reducing hazardous fuels accumulations in community
 protection areas and other strategic areas and by creating vegetation patterns that would have the
 effect of lowering the potential fire behavior within treatment areas.  The result of lower
 potential fire behavior would be increased fire suppression and management effectiveness and
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improved fire fighter safety. The intent of this project is to reduce the potential risks of large
fires in the project area, not to "fireproof Elk City.

Although large-scale, stand-replacing fires are a part of the natural landscape in the Elk City
area, it is currently unacceptable, socially and politically, to allow such fires to threaten
communities and residential areas that have become interspersed within this landscape. Current
management direction under the Forest Plan and Forest Fire Management Plan requires
aggressive suppression response to control all wildfires in the project area.  I do not expect this
policy to change in the foreseeable future.

In summary, this project has been designed and modified through consultation with the Nez
Perec Tribe, NOAA Fisheries, the US Fish and Wildlife Service, the Idaho Department of Fish
and Game, and the Idaho Department of Environmental Quality to maintain or improve water
quality and to limit the potential for short-term incidental losses of ESA-listed anadromous fish
and bull trout The project would create aquatic habitat conditions for long-term increases in
abundance of these species. It would also create upland habitat conditions that are projected to
maintain or improve populations of big game species in the area. Additionally, this project
would not impose any restrictions on traditional access rights of Nez Perce tribal members or
restrict, in any way, tribal members' abilities to continue exercising the full range of treaty rights
in the project area over the long term.

I appreciate the efforts of your representatives who have  worked with us through the planning
phases of the project and I am committed to pursuing any potential partnership opportunities
between the Nez Perce Tribe and the Forest that this project would create.

Sincerely,
/s/ Steve E. Williams
STEVE E. WILLIAMS
Acting Forest Supervisor
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                          BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
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                  November 17.2004                                RECEIVED

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                  To; Stove Williams. Fore« Supervisor
                  _   _,  __,,.
                  Dear Mr. Williams:

                  The Idaho County Commission would lite Co voice its support for the American and
                  Crooked River Project You hive provided the Draft Eartronroental Impact Statement
                  for our review and we have discussed, with the project manager, modification! la the
                  draft that are being developed to emphasize community protection priorities.

                  We believe this project would contribute to the racial and economic well-being of die
                  county by reducing potentially catastrophic risks to life tod property from the buildup of
                  hazardous fuels that could affect residential and commercial developments in the Hi City
                  area. The actividesaKSocimed with the Preferred Allcroatiw CD) such a» logging,
                  reforestation, and watershed restoration would also contribute direct economic benefits in
                  the form of a diversity of jobs, commercially valuable wood products, and Unproved fish
                  and wildlife habitat conditions which will enhance natation in the ana.

                  We also believe it is appropriate that community protection areas are identified
                  surrounding.each of the residential areas and communities in tf» vicinity of the project
                  and that major midways servicing these anas be maintained for safe a&d efficient
                  evacuation, in the cose of emergency.  We recommend you proceed with specific
                  identification of the Ericson Ridge, Upper American River, and Gnome Town-rite
                  residential areas as well at the community of Orogrande as communities-at-riik, in the
                  project area, from large scale wildfire. It is extremely important that priority be given to
                  hazardous fuel reduction within a minimum of one and one-half miles of these
                  communities and residential areas.

                  Oar May 2003 Wildfire Mitigation Plan identifies a three mite community protection area
                  around the town of Elk City to protect several additional outlying residential areas as well
                  as E!fc City, itself. This plan alto identifies the specific evacuation routes thae we expect
                  you to consider.
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        We agree that your proposal for the American and Crooked River Project is a much
       needed step in the right direction. However, the County is concerned with the safety and
       wen-befog of its residents and may find it necessary to add additional community
       protection areas and/or expand those already identified as we continue to consider the
       risks associated with hazardous forest fuels.

           c you for die opportunity to provide comments on this important project.
      George
      Idaho County Commissioners
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