Public Hearings  on
      NOISE ABATEMENT  AND CONTROL
Vol.  II—Manufacturing and Transportation Noise
               (Highway and Air)
      Chicago, Illinois    July 28-29, 1971
     U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
            Washington, D.C.  20460

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                     Public Hearings on
            NOISE  ABATEMENT  AND  CONTROL
     Vol. II—Manufacturing and Transportation Noise
                     (Highway and Air)
             Chicago,  Illinois    July 28-29, 1971
                        Conducted by
                              the
           Office of Noise Abatement and Control
           U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
                   Washington, D.C.  20460
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                      PREFACE
  Under the  Noise  Pollution and Abatement Act of 1970  (title
IV to the Clean Air Amendment of 1970 (Public Law 91-604)),
the Environmental Protection Agency, through the Office of Noise
Abatement and Control, is required to hold public hearings.
  A  series  of eight  hearings is being conducted in selected cities
to aid the  Office of Noise Abatement and  Control in compiling
information relevant to its investigation of the  problem of noise
pollution. Further, these hearings present an opportunity for the
public and industry to express their viewpoints on  the  general
subject of noise control. The volumes in the complete series will be:
    Vol.    I.—Noise in Construction.
           II.—Manufacturing and Transportation
                 Noise (Highway and Air).
           III.—Urban Planning, Architectural
                 Design; and Noise in  the Home.
           IV.—Standards and Measurement Methods,
                 Legislation and Enforcement Problems.
           V.—Agriculture and Recreational Use Noise.
           VI.—Transportation (Rail and Other), Urban
                 Noise Problems and Social Behavior.
         VII.—Physiological and Psychological Effects.
         VIII.—Technology and Economics of Noise Control;
                 National Programs and Their Relations With
                 State and Local.
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                        CONTENTS
Herbert  W.  Poston,  Commissioner of  the  Chicago  Department  of
  Environmental Control	    3
Dr. Edward Herman	   11
Franklin Kolk	   19
William G. Cornell	   36
A. M. McPike	   48
William B. Becker	   57
J. J. Corbett	   72
Sheldon W. Samuels	   85
Lewis Goodfriend	   89
Harter M. Rupert	   93
William N. Carey, Jr	   99
Prepared testimony of Ernest S. Starkman	   106
Ernest S. Starkman	   115
John Damian	   125
Ted Shreves	   130
Richard G. Kolb	   134
Roger P. Ringham	   138
Jack Hasten	   143
Joseph Kigin		   150
S. A.  Lippman	   150
Dr. Richard  Marcus 	   161
Noah Roberts and Al Romeo, Jr.	   169
Alfred Etter	   173
John D. Harper	   180
Herbert  G. Poertner	   182
Henry Karplus	   185
Samuel Peskin	   187
Carl Carlson	   189
Richard  Young 	   195
Statement of Congressman Pucinski	   200
George J. Franks	   203
Summary of SB 1566	   212
William Singer	   221
Fred H.  Tabak	   226
John Watts	   230
Cleveland Walcutt	   233
Glenna Alevizos	   236
Janice Del Calzo	   241
John  Desmond	   247
John  Varble	   252
National Organisation To Insure a Sound-Controlled Environment:
    Resolution No.  1-71	   253
    Resolution No.  2-71	   254
    Resolution No.  3-71  	   255
    Resolution No.  4-71	   256
Herman  Spahr	   257
George  Dayiantis 	   263
Elizabeth Lewis	   264
Laura Fermi	   269
Jo Ann Horowitz	   271
Omar Marcus	   274


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Ted Dacca	  281
Richard Blomberg	  283
Warren Edwards 	  291
John Kerrigan	293
Wendell P.  Berwick	  294
Statement of Congressman Abner J. Mikva, 2d District of Illinois	  297
Statement of Leon M. Despres	  299

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    PUBLIC  HEARING  ON MANUFACTURING AND
               TRANSPORTATION NOISE



               WEDNESDAY, JULY 28, 1971

  The hearing was convened at 9 a.m.,  Dr.  Alvin F. Meyer, Jr.
(chairman), presiding, Director, Office of Noise Abatement and
Control, Environmental Protection Agency.
  Panel:  Dr. Milton A. Whitcomb, National Academy of Science;
Prof. Sheldon J. Plager, University of Illinois; Mr. Henry Martin,
Society of Automotive Engineers; Mr. Lloyd Hinton, Minneapolis
Metropolitan Noise Abatement Council; Prof. John Kerrebrock,
Massachusetts  Institute of Technology.

                      PROCEEDINGS
  Dr. MEYER. Ladies and gentlemen, I hereby convene the public
hearing on noise  being held  by the  Environmental Protection
Agency, as mandated by the U.S. Congress in Title IV. Public
Law 91-604. I  am Alvin F. Meyer, Jr., Director of the Office of
Noise  Abatement  and  Control  of  the  U.S.  Environmental
Protection Agency.
  I am accompanied and assisted today in conducting this hearing
by a panel  of experts representing a variety of interests.  These
gentlemen will serve as a  hearing panel to assist us in asking
appropriate questions of the invited witnesses and those members
of the  community who have volunteered to  come forward and
make a statement about noise  as they see it.
  Let me  introduce  the  panel. There  is  Mr. Lloyd  Hinton,
executive director of the Metropolitan Aircraft Noise Abatement
Council;  Prof. John Kerrebrock, professor  of aerospace tech-
nology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Mr. Henry
Martin, manager of resource development of the Society of Auto-

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motive Engineers; Prof. Sheldon J.  Plager, professor  of law at
the University of Illinois; and Dr. Milton A. Whitcomb, executive
director of the  Committee on  Hearing, Bioacoustics,  and  Bio-
dynamics of the  National Research  Council, National Academy
of Sciences in Washington, D.C.
  The Administrator of the  Environmental Protection Agency,
Mr. William D. Ruckleshaus, has asked me to express to  the panel-
ists, to the participants, and to those who have taken time away
from  their daily pursuits to  come to this  hearing, his personal
greetings, as well as the official greeting of the Agency.
  Before proceeding with the hearing, let me briefly describe to
you their purpose and scope  and the manner in which we shall
conduct them. These hearings were  directed,  as I mentioned in
my opening remarks, by the U.S. Congress as part of an extensive
effort to develop a record  for the President and the Congress on
the noise problem as it exists  in the United  States of America
and what  is being done about it and what can be done about it
so that we may develop  recommendations for further Federal
action.
  The scope of the  hearings,  despite their geographical locations
in various  cities around the United  States,  is national, although
we have structured them so that regional or local interests may
also be presented.
  An additional  purpose of the hearings is to provide information
that will be useful to the administration and to the Environmental
Protection  Agency in implementing any legislation that the Con-
gress may enact on the subject of  noise,  there being presently
pending in the Congress the legislative proposal entitled the Noise
Control Act of 1971.
  Our fundamental approach in these hearings is to elicit facts
on all sides of the issue. We come with no preconceived  notions as
to the most plausible solutions or the best approaches to the prob-
lem or to the nature and extent of the  problem.
  In this series  of hearings we hope to obtain information as to
all views  and all approaches on all sides  of the  issue, so that
when we  arrive at the  point  of  developing regulations,  rules,
standards,  or whatever may be  needed, they are based on a broad
understanding of the issues. We are  conducting these hearings in
a manner similar to those conducted by the House Committee on
Government Operations of the  House of Representatives  of the
U.S. Congress. In this mode, the witnesses  are invited  to present
their  remarks; the  panel will direct questions as they deem ap-
propriate.  There are no questions allowed  from the floor; how-
ever,  if a member of the audience has a question, he may submit
it to  the clerk  in writing, and  we will endeavor  to provide an
answer, time permitting.
  Now, these hearings,  and congressional action leading to them
and to our  mandate to prepare this report, are a result of a rising
tide of public interest in the noise problem. And we feel that it
affords  a  unique opportunity  for  the Federal Government to
undertake an approach to the problems of the environment from
a platform of public understanding and communication,  which
has not been available to us in the case  of a number of the other
elements of the  environment. Without  further ado, I would now
like to begin the hearing.

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  We have been advised by Congressman Roman Pucinski from
the llth District of Illinois that he would be here this morning—
if not, tomorrow morning.  I have not heard from him regarding
his plan of arrival today, so we will move to the first witness. Is
Mr. Herbert W. Poston here, commissioner of the department of
environmental  control,  the city  of Chicago,  Chicago, 111. Mr.
Poston, welcome to the hearing; I look forward to your testimony.
  Commissioner POSTON. I  also have copies of the ordinance, and
I have some copies of a little noise brochure, with a button on it,
that is part of our city of Chicago program  on noise.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Poston,  you may summarize your statement
and wait  for questions or  read the entire  statement;  it's your
option.
  Commissioner POSTON. I have a prepared statement, Dr. Meyer,
and I would propose to read this to you.
  Dr. MEYER: Very good,  sir.

             STATEMENT OF HERBERT W. POSTON
  Commissioner POSTON. My name is H.  W. Poston, commis-
sioner of the department of  environmental control. Mayor Richard
J. Daley has asked me to outline the city of Chicago's  program to
control noise for you this morning.
  As  early as 1957, Chicago enacted a noise ordinance which set
decibel limitations for  noise levels at  zoning district  boundaries.
Chicago was the first city to establish such zoning boundary noise
level limits and, in so doing, the city provided  leadership and set
an example for the Nation. The ordinance still serves as a model
ordinance for community noise control.
  The 1957 noise and  vibration  control  ordinance  covered  the
following  types of  noise, and they defined  their limitations by
time and distance:
       1.  Vocal  and  musical instruments,  both  private  and
    commercial.
      2.  Steam whistles.
      3.  Factories using pneumatic hammers.
      4.  Mechanical  apparatus  in  building   or  construction
    operations.
      5.  Transportation and loading of metal.
      6.  Boisterous  behavior that disturbs the peace.
      7.  Motors on vehicles in excess of 5 tons.
      8.  Vibration-producing equipment.
  This innovative ordinance answered  the then existing needs of
the city. As the city  continued to expand and prosper, it brought
with it more building construction,  increased traffic volumes, and
the widespread use  of  air conditioners and other small  power
equipment. The rise in activity generated increased levels of urban
noise.
  Realizing the need  for  stronger,  more  encompassing  noise
legislation, the city of Chicago conducted a noise study to evaluate
its urban noise  problem. This study, prepared by Bolt, Beranek &
Newman,  leading acoustical consultants, was followed by a series
of noise hearings  held by the city council's environmental control
committee. All  of this activity resulted in a  new noise ordinance

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passed on March 10, 1971, which became effective July 1. A copy
of the noise ordinance will be submitted with this statement. The
new regulation is unique in urban noise control  because it sets
quantitative noise limits for many different major noise sources.
  The new ordinance has retained the nuisance provisions which
serve as "catchalls" for the many unusual noise sources which
exist in the city. These  sections include  disturbing  the peace,
parked  vehicles with engines  running,  use  of hand  organs or
musical instruments or operation of steam  whistles  within the
city.
  The main thrust of the new  ordinance is directed at the prin-
cipal component of urban  noise—motor  vehicles.  Several  sec-
tions of the new ordinance  set  noise standards for various  types
of motor  driven equipment. This section  of the  ordinance  per-
tains to three types of vehicles—trucks, cars,  and motorcycles.
This provision forbids the sale, or offer for sale, of motor vehicle
equipment exceeding the  noise  standards set forth. Manufactur-
ers  must certify that  products meet  the  restrictions  of the
ordinance in all cases. By the beginning of 1980, all motor vehicles
sold for use in the city cannot exceed 75 decibels.
  While the  manufacturer must  meet  certain  requirements,
operators and  owners of vehicles  must keep  products in good
working condition so they will not give off more noise than the
manufacturer intended.  No modifications may be made  on a
product to make it louder.
  In operating vehicles,  limits  have  been  placed on vehicles
traveling under 35 miles an  hour and  over  35 miles an hour. This
section  of the  ordinance  is now being enforced  by two vehicle
enforcement teams from  the department of environmental  con-
trol working in cooperation  with the  city  of  Chicago  Police
Department, since environmental  inspectors  do not have the
authority to curb vehicles.
  Another motor vehicle  section  sets  limits on noise from snow-
mobiles, dune buggies, mini bikes, gocarts (off-the-road recrea-
tional vehicles).  The limits are placed on both the sale  of new
equipment and the operation of the equipment in the  city.
  The ordinance also provides  noise controls for boats operating
on  the  rivers and lakes  within the city limits. The restrictions
placed on boats are 85 decibels for equipment used before January
1, 1975, and 76 decibels after  January 1,  1975.
  Another important category covered by the  ordinance is the
control  of noise from  construction  equipment sold  for use in
Chicago.  Construction and  demolition noise is  a  very  serious
urban noise problem and a complex one to  resolve. The ordinance
places noise restrictions on the  sale of construction equipment but
not on  the operation of  the equipment,  except for the specifica-
tions of hours of operation. The  new equipment section has pro-
gressively  decreased noise  levels for  heavy construction equip-
ment with a noise limit goal for 80 decibels  by January 1,  1980.
The last category  of construction equipment,  that used  in  re-
sidential areas, has a January  1, 1978, noise goal of 65 decibels.
  While decibel regulations  governing noise at construction sites
are not  included in the new  ordinance, it was felt  from testimony
presented during the noise  hearings that additional technical in-

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formation  would  be  required  to  regulate  the  noise  from
construction equipment.
  Realizing the lack of technical data, the department has begun
a noise program to evaluate noise  at construction sites. A noise
survey team  is collecting noise and vibration data at  all major
construction sites. Information related to the size, type,  and dura-
tion of  operation is tabulated. If  a contractor  is  operating
equipment  with  an  unmuffled exhaust,  he can  be  cited  for
disturbing the peace.
  The ordinance  also covers recreational vehicles or off the high-
way vehicles, placing noise limits on  new equipment and also on
the operation of the vehicles.
  The ordinance forbids the use of horns or audible signal devices
on motor vehicles while not in motion. With proper public educa-
tion and enforcement, this problem should be greatly reduced in
the near future.
  Noise  coming from buildings in  business  and commercial dis-
tricts will be measured at the boundaries of the lot. This includes
noise from  such  activities  as production,  processing, cleaning,
servicing, testing and repair of materials, goods,  or  products.
Noise levels from any of these functions cannot exceed 62 dB(A).
  In residential areas noise from buildings will also be  measured
at the boundaries of the lot. Total noise levels coming  from a
residence cannot  exceed 55 dB(A).
  In districts zoned  as  manufacturing  (light  to  heavy), noise
from buildings  is measured  at district  boundaries.  The noise
limitations range from 55 dB(A) to 61 dB(A). Where  manufac-
turing zoning boundaries meet  business and commercial  zoning
boundaries, the noise limit is also measured  at the boundary dis-
trict and ranges from 62 to 66 dB (A).
  Any vibration that can be felt beyond the property line  in any
zoning district, whether manufacturing, business,  commercial, or
residential, is in  violation of the ordinance.  Instruments  are not
needed to determine the vibration.
  The city's  department of buildings  in cooperation  with the
departments  of  public works  and environmental  control is cur-
rently making studies to further control noise coming from inside
of all types of buildings. In the near future, these studies will be
the subject of public hearings to update the existing  ordinance
to provide a quieter environment for citizens in their activity in
all situations whether indoors or outdoors.
  The department of environmental control is responsible for
noise abatement  and control programs for the city of Chicago.
Currently our activity is divided into two separate groups from
the enforcement  division and the  engineering  division, totaling
15 people. The enforcement division has the  task of enforcing all
aspects of the new ordinance. The  engineering  division provides
technical backup for the enforcement group and supplies noise
engineering services  to other  city agencies.
  The department has purchased eight sound monitoring systems
for enforcing the new ordinance. Special sound  measuring equip-
ment has also been acquired for  completing  special noise studies
around the city. This equipment is portable and mountable in a
mobile sound laboratory, which is a  recent department acquisition.

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   Although  the  city of  Chicago has taken strong  leadership in
the area of urban noise  control there are still many areas where
we feel additional work  is needed.
   To provide a quieter environment, the city needs the assistance
of the Federal Government. At the present time, the city is pre-
empted by Federal regulations  and is powerless to control noise
from aircraft at its major airports once they leave the ground.
Aircraft noise is a real  source  of annoyance to  a large segment
of our citizens who live near Midway and,  particularly, O'Hare
Airports.
   In  January of this year, Mayor Richard J. Daley wrote a letter
to the Federal Aviation Administration concerning the  matter.
He said, in part, and I quote:
  Of special significance to  urban governments is the fact that the courts
have generally found that cities are preempted from regulating- aircraft noise
by local ordinance.  Consequently, cities  will be largely unable  to  directly
regulate aircraft noise associated with the approach and takeoff of aircraft
using  city airports.
  The Federal Government has the authority and the responsibility to reduce
aircraft noise,  and  I am requesting the Government to take immediate steps
to implement its power to regulate aircraft noise and thereby provide relief
to the residents of  the city of Chicago and adjoining communities from the
intrusion of noise generated by interstate transport.
  The city of Chicago strongly urges that the Department of Transportation
and the Federal Aviation Administration take immediate and positive steps
to exercise its  authority to regulate aircraft noise and thereby provide relief
to the residents of the city of Chicago and adjoining communities from such
annoyance as may be generated by aircraft operations.
   Surface transportation vehicles, especially those used  in  inter-
state travel, need to meet  uniform  regulations.  The  Federal
Government  should  support  efforts   for  implementing  such
standards  from municipalities and States.
   When Federal  funds  are made available  for  mass  transit
systems, the abatement  of  noise should be  of prime importance.
   In  order  for  local governments to  carry out comprehensive
noise-control programs, especially those who have taken the lead,
financial assistance from the Federal Government should be forth-
coming.
   While it is  difficult  for any major  city to continue to control
local  noise sources without  support in the form of legislation and
additional moneys, the  city  is  considering the following noise
programs:
   A  noise inventory combining residential,  commercial,  and in-
dustrial areas in a 1/2-square-mile section of the city needs to be
conducted by the department as a  preliminary study for  a city-
wide inventory.  This information  would be used to establish  a
baseline for evaluating  the effectiveness  of our  noise-control
program in later years in various areas.
   The city plans to establish a permit system to prevent potential
noise sources from being built into existing or new structures and
producing noise  problems, particularly in residential areas.
   Chicago will continue to accept its  responsibility  in providing
a quieter environment for its citizens. The city will continue in its
pioneering efforts to control noise,  but we most  urgently request
assistance,  cooperation,  and responsibility  on  the  part of our
Federal agencies in this most important task.

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  I asked, just before coming here,  something about our com-
plaints, and I find that in 1970 we had about 125 complaints of
noise. In 1971, the first 6 months, we  had 227 complaints; and in
1971, the first 2 weeks in July, we had 247 complaints on noise.
  You might be interested in a statistical breakdown  since July
1: Air conditioners were responsible  for some  70  complaints, or
29 percent of them; trucks,  about 65 complaints,  28 percent;
motorcycles, 40 complaints, 17 percent of the complaints; manu-
facturing, 23 complaints, 9 percent; music, 20 complaints, 8 per-
cent; children, 15 complaints, 5 percent; animal noises,  14 or 5
percent; and  in this time, since July 1 we have issued 150 vehicle
citations which call for court  cases.
  I thank you.
  I have Mr. Caccavari—I must leave—and Mr. Caccavari, who
is a  technical expert on noise, will be available to you for your
further questioning and panel discussion.
  Dr. MEYER. Well,  Mr.  Poston,  thank you for an  illuminating
discussion of what a large metropolitan community is doing. If
you could stay just about 5 minutes, though, sir.
  Commissioner POSTON. All  right.
  Dr. MEYER. If  you would,  I would like to give the panel the
opportunity to at least direct one or two questions to you. Panel
on the right,  any questions?
  Mr. HiNTON. I  have a question, Dr. Meyer.
  Mr. Poston, does the city contemplate, or has the  city  adopted
any part of its ordinance here  that you referred to as the noise	
  VOICE FROM AUDIENCE. Can't hear you.
  Mr.  HINTON. You talked about a noise  ordinance adopted in
1957, establishing zoning district boundaries. Now,  have  you—I
have two questions:  One is in regard to the airport noise. Have
you  established   any zoning  in  connection  with  O'Hare  and
Midway Airports?
  The second question: Have you contemplated  including in your
city building code ordinances any criteria for exterior wall sounds
insulation?
  Commissioner POSTON. I think your second question was do we
have limitation for wall	
  Mr. HINTON. No, I wouldn't characterize it as  "limitation." I
would suggest it was a	
  Commissioner POSTON. Standard?
  Mr. HINTON. Standard that you have an  acoustical criteria re-
quirement for building in the  exterior wall in the vicinity of high
noise sources, such as an airport or  freeway, or industrial district
where you grant building permits. Do you also have an acoustical
criteria in your building or zoning  criteria?
  Commissioner POSTON. This is not  in our building code. These
studies that are presently underway will take this into  considera-
tion possibly when they come  up for their ordinance.
  Relative to the airport and zoning  of the airport, we have no
zoning with the exception of  for runups of airplanes when they
rev them up,  start up; there is limitation on that.
  Mr.  HINTON.  That would  be a  regulatory  approach  on  the
maintenance  activity?
  Commissioner POSTON. Right.

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  Mr. HINTON. That would have nothing to do with the zoning
of the area around there?
  Commissioner POSTON.  No.
  Mr. HINTON. I had in mind the opening of the area contiguous
to the airport.
  Commissioner POSTON.  There are none.
  Mr. HINTON. Thank  you.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Poston, it appears the city is engaged in
a comprehensive noise  pollution, or  noise abatement  program. I
wonder, your department, as  I  understand it, is responsible not
only for noise, but water, air pollution, solid waste—a number of
areas, all the areas of environmental control; is that correct?
  Commissioner POSTON.  Right.
  Professor PLACER.  You indicate that your staff includes—how
large is your staff, your total staff?
  Commissioner POSTON.  We have approximately 225.
  Professor PLACER.  225  people?
  Commissioner POSTON. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. You indicate you have 15 people,  totaling
15 people in the engineering and enforcement divisions regarding
noise, is that correct?
  Commissioner POSTON.  Fifteen people, of which	
  Professor PLACER.  Total ?
  Commissioner POSTON.  Four are engineers.
  Professor  PLACER.  Four  engineers;  that  leaves   you  11
enforcement.
  Commissioner POSTON.  Yes; we use the engineers for  enforce-
ment as well.
  Professor PLACER.  Do you feel that that is  an adequate number
of staff personnel to  enforce an ordinance as broadly drafted as
this one covering  so many areas of noise	
  Commissioner POSTON. Well,  I think	
  Professor PLACER.  In a city this size?
  Commissioner POSTON. We can stand more, very decidedly, I
feel that.
  PROFESSOR PLACER. How about legal enforcement? Who handles
your—you  mentioned you had  some cases.
  Commissioner POSTON.  The  corporation  counsel handles the
cases, court cases.
  Professor PLACER. This is  not under your department, is  it?
  Commissioner POSTON. No, sir; that comes under the corpora-
tion counsel.
  Professor PLACER. How many  people are assigned from the
corporation counsel's office, do you know, to do this kind of work?
  Commissioner POSTON. This is a variable  figure, and we have
two to three lawyers at  the  present time who are working on
these activities.
  Professor PLACER. Part time, or are they full time to do this
work, do you know?
  Commissioner POSTON. Well, this comes and goes, and they are
full time.
  Professor PLACER.  Depending on their other workload?
  Commissioner POSTON. Right.
  Professor PLACER.  One other question, if I  may, Mr. Chairman.

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  Dr. MEYER. Yes, sir, go ahead.
  Professor PLACER.  With regard  to the  airport problem, you
say at the present time the  city, to quote your statement, the
"city  is preempted by Federal regulations and is  powerless  to
control noise from aircraft at its major airports once they leave
the ground."
  Has the city made any attempt to regulate this problem, or  to
deal with this problem, or have you had an  ordinance	
  Commissioner POSTON. This was	
  Professor PLACER. Stricken down?
  Commissioner POSTON. No, we  have not. This has come under
discussion in  our  environmental  control committee of the city
council,  and from the corporation counsel in discussions with the
corporation counsel.
  Professor PLACER. So this is purely an opinion, but you have no
ordinance, no legal decision that the city of Chicago do this?
  Commissioner POSTON.  This has  also been  recommended by
our consultants, Bolt, Beranek & Newman, who  base this on their
experience around the country as well.
  Professor  PLACER. Does it matter that it's the city's  own
airport? Is the city powerless to do anything about  airport noise
from its own airport? Is that  your understanding of the position?
  Commissioner POSTON. Well, I think we can, at  the time the
planes, as I indicated,  on runups, there are regulations on that,
the time and	
  Professor PLACER. But beyond runups, nothing?
  Commissioner POSTON. No.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I have one very brief question.  First,  I am
generally pleased with your  ordinance;  indeed,  you are to be
commended, you should be commended on this work. The question
is also on regulation and enforcement. I am a little  bit dismayed
that a  police  officer  has  to  work in  conjunction  with the
enforcement people on your side——
  VOICE FROM AUDIENCE.  Can't hear, still  can't hear you.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Why is it necessary to have such a potentially
difficult system?
  Commissioner POSTON :  The question  is why  must  a police
officer work with our inspectors?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. In curbing  cars.
  Commissioner POSTON.  In  curbing cars,  and  I think par-
ticularly on  the expressways,  this is a very hazardous operation,
and we  have felt that it is, from a safety standpoint  that it  is
the most desirable way to approach this.  It may be that with
time, and funds permitting, we will have further training for our
inspectors in this particular phase of stopping cars,  pulling them
over to the side, that we will get into this, but at  this time we
felt this was the best way to handle it. We did run a training
course for our inspectors, and had about 50 people attend this
course, which was a 1-week course, with a manual, and  it trained
them in the science of noise  and noise prevention and the legal
aspects,  and the police department, department of public works,
and other city departments, along with our own inspectors, were
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  Dr. MEYER.  I have several points, Mr. Poston,  I would like to
make, and  then we will proceed on. One is a question  that  has
been raised about the  use of the police department to enforce
these regulations; this was brought up and discussed  in our hear-
ing in Atlanta, and a representative of the Atlanta Police Depart-
ment pointed out  to the panel there, and to me, the real problem
that the police have in  being required to take on enforcement, or
operations of this sort.  It diverts them from their primary activi-
ties, and his view was  that, yes, if this  was placed on them they
could and would do it, but they already had so many  things to do
that this seemed not to be a good idea. I wonder if  you,  in this
advanced planning that you mentioned, are going to take a look
at some of the more sophisticated methods, such as  those being
used in Connecticut, that you may know  about. I refer to  a
simultaneous sound recording and photograph of the vehicle, with
its  license,  on almost an automatic basis at  certain  checkpoints
and so on.—Apparently it is legal, according to their  findings.
Have you thought about taking this out of the hands of the police
department?
  Commissioner POSTON. We have looked at this and did not feel
that it was, that the expenditures were justified and that they
would serve our particular needs.
  Dr. MEYER. My second question has  to  do with airports and
airport  control. In  an  extension of one of the other panelist's
questions, did the city  investigate, when it was establishing  the
present provisions of its ordinance, the possibility of control of
the number of flights into the airport? It is operated, isn't it, by
the city?
  Commissioner  POSTON.  Correct.
  Dr. MEYER. And a contract must be  let  by the airline, and a
landing fee must  be paid?
  Commissioner POSTON.  Has the question of landing  fees and
other means of regulation been looked into?
  Commissioner POSTON. All of these matters were discussed	
  Dr. MEYER. I see.
  Commissioner POSTON.  With the corporation counsel,  and in
the hearings  of the environmental  control committee of the city
council.
  Dr. MEYER. I see. Now, the last question I have is one of con-
siderable interest to those of us concerned with future regulations,
laws, and standards. You mentioned a very sharp rise in com-
plaints received by you with regard to  noise,  although you have
had a noise ordinance  for a  great number of years; to what do
you attribute that sharp rise in  complaints?
  Commissioner POSTON. Well, I think the awareness of the public
that we were increasing staff, and we have a new ordinance, and
the media was very helpful  in their articles on noise; I  think all
of these things had a bearing on it.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much, Mr. Poston. We appreciate
your candor in  answering  our  questions,  and look forward to
working with the State and the city of Chicago, from the Federal
Government level. Thank you very much.
  Mr.  Caccavari  here,  would be here to enter in any other  dis-
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  Dr. MEYER. Thank you, Mr. Caccavari. If we need to call upon
you, we shall.
  Is Dr. Edward Hermann of the Department of Environmental
Health and Engineering of Northwestern University here?
  Dr. HERMANN. Yes, I am here.
  Dr. MEYER. Sir, would you please come forward and give to the
clerk copies of your transcript, and if you have them available
for the press, I would appreciate your giving them to the press,
too.
  Dr. HERMANN. Very good.
  Dr. MEYER. While they are getting set up here, I will apologize
for the audio and visual problems that seem to plague all modern
technology. We are dealing with the control of noise, and it seems
as though we  can't  make the noise  we want  to at times. Dr.
Hermann, glad to have you with us, sir.
  Dr. HERMANN. I am pleased to be here, Dr. Meyer.

            STATEMENT OF EDWARD HERMANN,
               NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
  Dr. HERMANN. My appearance here today is mainly that of a
professor of environmental health engineering, and I wish to give
some definition to the noise  problem. Actually, we have concern
over  abatement  of  noise,  and' there  are  several reasons for
doing this—that is, wishing to abate noise.
  Some of these, I can list these in descending order of importance,
you might say, and the first would be to reduce hearing loss.
  The second would  be  to improve communications.
  Third, to reduce psychoacoustical fatigue.
  Fourth,  attain better work  efficiency.
  And, fifth, to reduce the noise.
  I am sure many of you are interested in various aspects, and
hope to give some  definition overall to noise itself, and to some of
these various problems.
  If I might have the first slide	
  Dr. MEYER.  Can we  extinguish the television lights  so the
gentleman's visual  presentation may be seen, please.
  Dr. HERMANN. One more  and we will have it made.
  [Showing of first slide in  series.]
  We will have to  squeeze  down the picture, if you have  a zoom
lens on that projector. No zoom lens?
  Dr. MEYER. There we are.
  Dr. HERMANN. That's pretty good  definition.
  Can we cut the overhead light here?
  Dr. MEYER.  Someone, can you cut these overheads, please?
  VOICE FROM  AUDIENCE.  We can't  find  the  switch, and the
houseman  isn't here.
  Dr. MEYER. There he is.
  Dr. HERMANN. I will proceed while he is finding the switch.
  The problem  of  noise is  largely one of  defining some of the
parameters that we measure it with  at which this confuses the
problem to a certain  extent,  and we tend to define it in terms of
decibels and frequency.
  Frequency we call  "hertz," or "cycles per second," and  on this
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into the  acoustic field, we see that we may have the frequency
spectrum plotted from about 20 to 20,000 hertz, and a minimum
audible  field represented by  the  bottom curve  [indicating] .
  The ordinate in this case is plotted in decibels, and decibel is
simply a scale often referenced to pressure  ratios.
  Actually,  it's  a logarithmic scale; it's a pure number; it is
abstract, it  has  no absolute unit of meaning  until we assign an
absolute  unit to the pressure  variation we are talking about.
  For the sake of simplicity, we can see the human thresholds of
hearing as indicated by the bottom  curve [indicating] occur among
those who have good hearing to start with, but the lease  value
occurs at about 4,000 hertz.  The  zero reference  level has com-
monly been  used for physicists' measurements at approximately
1,000 hertz,  and calling that a decibel  at zero.
  Now, it is not until we get up to about 120 decibels that people
feel discomfort.  This is on a spectral  or an octave band analysis-
type of arrangement, but this was obviously uncomfortable, sounds
up around the 120-decibel range. When we get up to  140 to 145
decibels, sound may approach, or be into  the threshold  of pain
for some individuals; that is  a variable,  both as far as being
actually painful, but there is enough  energy release at this level
to cause a stimulation which is registered as true pain.
  Now, it is between, certainly, the zero level and the 120  that we
are mainly concerned with. Very few people will tolerate a painful
situation; occasionally some jet mechanics may be exposed to such
sound levels, but they certainly will use the protective measures
that are provided to them.
  It is mainly in the levels from about, say, 50 up to 120  decibels
that we have our problems.
  Now, in general, we see very  little  interference with speech
communication if noise is kept  under approximately 70 decibels.
This is a broad-brush thing, and we have to define it more accu-
rately as far as speech interference levels, but for our purposes
we  can  use  that particular number.
  At about 85 decibels we may have some problems as far as noise,
and reduced hearing loss occurs. Hearing losses may occur from a
wide  variety  of  diseases; they  occur naturally  from  aging,
and they occur from excessive noises. The excessive noise  expo-
sures that give rise to hearing losses  are generally those between
about 90 decibels up to 110, or even 120 in some instances.
  I will elaborate on that a little bit  after  we take a look at this
particular audiogram.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This is an old audiogram of an  individual. It is not unusual to
find an audiogram of this nature showing a plot of the responses
to pure tone frequencies rather than measure every frequency
at 500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, and 6,000 hertz.
  We should notice one peculiarity of making audiometric meas-
urements, and that is that the zero reference level is different for
each  pure tone  that is used,  and  this is important, because we
don't use the physicist's  reference level. Instead  we reference to
a different level, and then call  that a new zero. It is a  relative
measure, and we have had a change of standards over the past 2
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  The present one is the American National Standards Institute.
This particular audiogram shows the old 1951 ASA zero reference
levels. Nevertheless, this individual  has some obvious hearing
losses in the higher frequencies, above 2,000 hertz, but not  too
much loss, although some noticeable impairment below 2,000 hertz
in the lower frequencies.
  One thing that  should  be  noticed,  and which  I will illustrate
with  data later on, is that it is quite easy to lose hearing  due to
excessive noise exposures in the high frequencies, around 4,000
hertz. It is much more  difficult to force noise-induced noises on an
individual, whether these are occupational, avocational, or recrea-
tional, in the lower frequencies.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This is  simply three different types of statistical distributions
[indicating].
  Most of the data used  in noise analysis have  been  treated as
following a gaussian distribution, and this is true for individuals
with  mediocre-to-poor  hearing.
  Actually, individuals with, if you take sets of data on individ-
uals with quite good hearing, we find  that they  have a log-normal
distribution rather than a gaussian distribution. I won't elaborate
on that. It's not of too much immediate importance here, except for
one aspect, and that is that some studies are made, were made with
a young medical student a few years ago—well, actually, he had just
finished graduating from medical  school and  wanted some  re-
search experience; it  showed  that  among  Evanston  Township
High  School students, individuals who were screened and checked
for absence of not noise-induced hearing loss, but absence of noise
exposure, showed that their thresholds of hearing were truly log-
normal, and not only that, but that the point at which they heard
ran 28 to about 33 decibels below the zero values that  were com-
monly used in audiological practice. This  gave  us some basis for
absolute  threshold  of  human  hearing,  and although  we  start
measuring the ability to hear at a particular zero, it is generally
near  the center, or even  on  the high side of this curve,  rather
than  being down where the first person in a large  population
starts to hear.
  In other words, we said, we took a sizable population and said
maybe we can  let this represent the human  race,  rather than
making the erroneous assumption that man first hears at  minus
infinity—which,  of course, has been followed for many  years.
This  is the  same  thing;  these  are the  same  data shown on a
different plot showing the probability  versus the—probability
versus noise or sound level as given.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Now, then, the  problems that arise  in noise-induced hearing
loss may be classified into two regions: One would be an ideal
listing scheme  like this  [indicating], the temporary threshold
shift which may take place.
  Most of you have experienced a  temporary  threshold shift if
you have been exposed to noises on a continuous basis, say, for
6, 7 hours a day, that  exceeded 90  or 95  decibels, somewhere in
that range, and  you have noticed, after such an exposure, that
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  This may have been a blessing if you went home to your wife
and you couldn't hear what she was talking about, or it may have
been undesirable if she had something important to say.
  However, such  a temporary  threshold shift  recovers  quite
rapidly, usually, also.
  Most of it, or at least 90 to 95 percent of it is recovered by the
next morning, and the rest during ensuing hours, if there is no
repeated exposure. But if there is another exposure the next day,
as may occur in an occupational situation, and the next and the
next, and  this goes on day in, let's say,  5 days at a time  every
week, month, year, and so on,  if, after years of exposure we may
see an accumulative effect in that  the logarithmic  recovered rate
as shown in blue [indicating] tends to leave a little  bit of residual,
of permanent threshold shift imparity.  This  is not new. This
simply gives a nice explanation as to why, though, we may not be
able to measure this effect for awhile—eventually the curve rises
enough until we reach  an interceptor   where it  is  clinically
demonstable [indicating].
   [Showing of next slide in series].
  Looking at some data that were obtained in an  oil  refinery,
where we  conducted  some fairly  simple  experiments  of audio-
metrically measuring the hearing ability of some 5,000 employees,
actually we put these into groups and classified  them,  and we
simply asked the employee during their medical examination, in
which audiometry was included, whether they were in  a work
environment where they had to stand next to a coworker, usually
within about 1 foot, and shout to be understood.  Well, this cor-
responds,  roughly, to a noise  field of about 95 decibels,  and we
found if we put them  into  two categories and looked at those who
had, say, about 20 to 24 years of service, who claimed such a noise
exposure, that we obtained a curve that looked like the yellow line
shown on this particular diagram [indicating].
  This was a noise, obviously true, or at least as good as you will
get on most experimental  data. It's hard to beat that type  of fit.
We then took the extreme—we had, over on  the right-hand side
of the curve [indicating], if we analyzed the hearing  among some
of our boilermakers, among the  boilermakers with more than 15
years of service, and there were  about 106 of them in that group,
or 212 ears, we found that 4,000 hertz the measurements gave us
a curve that looked like the red curve [indicating]. Obviously, we
see from  the  right-hand  side of the data, that  right-hand  leg,
that the noise is self-limiting; that is, it did not force them into
severe losses, but it did push, in the left-hand side of the  curve
[indicating], and made more  of the individuals have poor hear-
ing  at that particular frequency—which, bear in mind, is  the
frequency which  initially you  start out with  as having the most
sensitive hearing, and tend to lose first.
  The green curve  [indicating]  was among individuals  who had
only less than 5 years  of employment in the industry, and who had
no noise exposure; that is,  on  looking back through their medical
histories there was  no history  of prior exposure.  Their work
history indicated no current exposures.
   Instead of the pure tone audiogram I have shown earlier, we
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Bekesy type to give the discrete frequencies, and the first three
channels shown on here are time periods, which include the 500,-
1,000,- and 2,000-hertz frequencies  [indicating].
  You can see of the first two that the  500 and 1,000 hertz ear
tones test  frequencies, the individuals heard, as this individual
heard, quite well. This is an audiogram on a single individual, a
34-year-old boilermaker.
  But then the bottom dropped out of his hearing at 4,000 hertz,
where we would expect to see a notch, the notch had broadened,
but in both directions, and we see that he has depressed hearing
as across the  board from 2,000 hertz  on up.  He  is only 34; he
had about  15 years of experience in his  particular craft.
  [Showing of next slide.]
  Here are some results on a 40-year-old tube cleaner. This man
was exposed primarily to low frequency noise. He hears quite well
in the speech-important frequencies; he  does not hear so well in
the higher frequencies.
  Now, it is commonly in the development of the scale of exposure
that is used in the Walsh-Healy Act as far as occupational noise
exposures,  it is commonly felt that we can sacrifice the hearing
at the origin,  sacrifice the hearing in  the  higher  frequencies as
long as the lower frequencies  remain intact, because the voice
sounds of a human being, as far as  pure tone emissions goes, that
is, vocal chord emission, is from about  85 to 1,100  hertz only  and
with  articulation, though,  some  of the articulation with  the
tongue,  the throat, the mouth,  and the  teeth,  will give  us  fre-
quencies that go as high as 8,000 hertz. You can still get very good
intelligence out of spoken words if you  only hear from roughly
50 up to  2,000 hertz,  and  so  the occupational  exposures  are
sometimes  quite a bit more severe  than  with the accepted units.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Grading  audiograms is  a thing that is  done—this is one of the
first charts used for grading the hearing  of an individual so as to
simplify it, to say a seven-point scheme,  A through G, and if we
average the ability to hear at 500, 1,000, 2,000 hertz, and then
entered the chart, we can get  some characterization of how an
individual hears from a simple pure tone audiogram.
  This particular chart was developed around 1953 by  the  Na-
tional Research Council Committee, now  know  as the Committee
on Hearing and Bioacoustics, and has gone through evolutionary
changes which have been adopted by both the American Medical
Association,  the  American Academy  of Opthalmology   and
Laryngology, and others.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Using that particular grading scheme,  if  we consider the green
area [indicating] in using the  old  1951  ASA  measurements for
audiometers, we may plot, actually it's an actuarial curve rather
than a probability curve, but I have used  a probability scale with-
out normalizing, it just  goes from  0 to 100 percent, and showing
among a  control group, the left-hand curve  in the sheltered years
indcated that 95 percent of them had grade A hearing or heard
in a normal range; about 5 percent of them  had some slight
hearing deficiency.
  Among the  boilermakers that were tested  in this  particular
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the time we get down to  the dividing  line between  A  and B,
approximately 25-26  percent  of the boilermakers, as  picked off
of the curve, had hearing  poorer than the levels  that we would
set as a beginning of impairment, and this is still used today, this
low fence [indicating] is the one used in various measurement
schemes for hearing.
  By the time you get over to  the dividing line, however, between
C and D, going from mild hearing loss to serious, we see that the
process is self-limited. Very few of the boilermakers were pushed
over into the serious and severe range, and this might have been
due to other diseases, disease situations, because this  is only a
statistical study, but it does show a very definite correlation with
noise as the noisy occupation.
  In fact, if we take  the test  for significance on this, the change
of a condition like this, of this size, a  statistical study being due
to chance  alone is less than the one in a million  region.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Now, another means of grading an audiogram was devised as a
result of the studies  made in this particular case, as  done with
this particular oil refinery,  and we found that we could quantitate
the 4,000-cycle notch which, up to that time, had been  essentially
a qualitative measurement  for observation by audiologists.
  We made a 5-point scale and subtracted the  noise that would
be expected in an individual due to aging alone,  from the individ-
ual's  hearing, and  could get  to 5  points on  the scale. I won't
elaborate  on the derivation of this; the papers for all of these
studies have been submitted to the chairman.
  However, now we see for the same set of boilermakers that in
comparison with the  sheltered ears, and where  the grades A, B,
C—this is D right here [indicating], and that is  E [indicating]
region,  the  boilermakers show a much more severe picture. We
have a much more sensitive test to use, and we see that some, oh,
I think dividing line between C and D where we would first use this
as a statistical test of significance, about 75 percent of the boiler-
makers had hearing  poorer than our test would allow.
   If we would get  out to  the, about  half percentile significance
level, we  see that 60 percent of them had  hearing poorer than
the test procedure.
  Now, this was quite an occupational shift, the blue area shown
here  [indicating].
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Among some painters—now, this is not all  painters, these are
painters at an oil refinery who may be working inside of a 40-foot-
high  tank,  120  feet  in diameter,  with  a boilermaker shearing
rivets off the outside—this  gets pretty loud	
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   There are the same painters on the speech average loss scheme
of grading. I  will go back, this was the early loss index scheme
which was to be used as a more sensitive diagnostic, or we will
say prognostic technique,  and this was  the actual pathology as
far as the number [indicating], shows the number percentagewise
that had lost the hearing relative to the sheltered ear, or control
group.
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down as shown on this table [indicating], it's the first seven we see
that among some  female office workers, their average  age was
38—at least a birth certificate said so—and we went down from
roughly 95 to 100  in what may be considered  the control groups,
down to 78 percent who were both in the class A, meaning that
the rest were not in class A.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  And from  there, going on  down by categories  to the boiler-
makers, where some 58 percent of  them were in  class A.
  Now, this is a serious situation occupationally,  in that we have
a disease condition here from which you do not recover. It's not
correctible by any medical or  surgical technique  available today,
and it is measured in percent; that is, parts per  hundred, not in
cases per  100,000, which  is how we measure most morbidity.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This simply shows an interesting  situation relative to a 54-year-
old  welder.
  We measured his hearing, when I looked at the  audiogram, that
one of the technicians brought to me, I at  first  didn't recognize
what had taken place, and after checking through his file I found
out he did not have any hearing in  the right ear.
  What was happening here was upon conduction from the signal
presented to the right side, and hearing it in  the left ear, and it
gave an artifact as shown here [indicating]   so he was a  one-
eared man, essentially. He hears quite well for a one-eared man.
He has some  loss in the speech-important frequencies,  has a pro-
nounced loss in the higher frequencies as far as speech intelligence
goes; he communicates very well,  and doesn't miss words, but
in a few years, or at retirement age, this man is probably going
to have this spread back  into the lower frequencies to a certain
extent, and the prevention of this is,  of course, desirable.
  [Showing of next slide.]
  We will go from occupational areas to, say,  just, oh, a decibel-
plotting' scale that might  be used in octave  band analysis.
  Today  everything is decibel on the A scale, as an A-weighted
scale; however,  I  tend to be  a little old-fashioned, and like to
stick to the octave bands  analysis for accuracy. We miss quite a
bit in the dBA scale despite its convenience.
  This was some work developed by Jones Insurance at Esso re-
search and engineering,  and incidentally, this is one case in an
industrial situation, or people  out of industry  were imposing and
adopting criteria for their own regulation that is more severe than
those being proposed today under the Walsh-Healy Act,  and this
is used fairly widely in the petroleum industry—at least I have
seen evidence of it in companies other than those  that  are part
of Standard Oil of New Jersey.
  The maximum for communication might be given by  a line
such as this  [indicating]; there  is  nothing  magic about  that
particular line in that many people have different standards, but
this  is a reasonable one, and the bottom two curves are those
taken from the Cook County ordinance in Illinois for permissible
community noise in a business district, or in a  residential district.
  As you can see, at the  higher frequencies—well, you can't see
because of the fact that head  is not quite transparent—we can
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quite low as far as the amount of sound energy that is accepted
in those particular  octave bands.
  I think  I have used up my  time, and I think I should stop
right there and let  any questioning that may develop from the
panel take place.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, professor. We appreciate
getting some technical information before the group for a little
bit of greater appreciation of some  of the things that are going
to be said  later in the day about various levels of noise and their
effects, and lack of  effects. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. I have one question, Dr. Hermann. Your
testimony  seems to  concentrate on  biological damage,  loss of
hearing. Do you have additional information that you could give
us,  perhaps in written form,  on your views of annoyance? It
seems to be equally  important  to these hearings.
  Dr. HERMANN. I think I should leave that to others, mainly be-
cause I do not have  direct experimental evidence in that particu-
lar area. What I am  saying is as a practitioner, perhaps I might be
competent in that area; as a researcher I am not because I have
not done this work  directly myself.
  Dr. MEYER. I would like to ask one question, which I hope will
help put this information in perspective for the people  who are
here as  observers and  witnesses. Would you give some informa-
tion regarding the noise or the sound level conditions to which,
say, the boilermakers were exposed  to in their environment that
produced the  hearing  losses shown on the curves?
  Dr. HERMANN. I  can give some  information on  this.
  Dr. MEYER. Just  something  rather brief.
  Dr. HERMANN. Obviously there has been studies made  in other
industries on  continuous noise exposures  relating the  noise  in-
tensities with audiometric shift or  changes. That was  not done
in these studies. Some measurements were made, of course, but
there  was no good correlative  evidence developed. It was mainly
an occupational, as  correlated by occupation.
  The levels, I know that sometimes with  chipping hammers, I
did measure decibel intensities inside of vessels as high as 130 to
140 decibels, and there is some doubt when you get up there as to
how good your measuring instrumentation is, and usually these
complaints came not from the boilermaker, and these were per-
cussive, or you  might say impact sounds that are possibly not
measured  very  well, but the  complaints  came from  someone
maybe 100, 200 feet away in another part of the shop, and the
boilermaker, he would accept these. It's the old story I used to hear
that, "The noise used to bother me when I  started  to work here,
but it doesn't anymore."
  Of course, he obviously lost  a fair amount of hearing, so it no
longer bothers him  very much.
  Chairman MEYER. Thank  you very much. We appreciate your
taking the time to  come and  give this presentation, and would
like to receive from you, if you have available, some of these charts
and illustrations for the record. Thank you, sir.
  Dr. HERMANN. You are certainly welcome.
  Dr. MEYER.  We  will now turn to a series of  presentations
regarding a problem of  major interest in  environmental noise;
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predate Mr. Franklin Kolk of the American Airlines taking the
time to come and give us a presentation  with regard to  certain
developments in the aircraft  industry concerning noise control.
Mr. Kolk, would you please come forward, sir. The floor is yours,
sir.

   STATEMENT OF MR. FRANKLIN KOLK, AMERICAN AIRLINES
  Mr. KOLK. My name is Franklin Kolk, and I am vice president
of development engineering of American Airlines.
  Noise has always been a burden to American cities. Nearly 200
years ago, Benjamin  Franklin, a resident of peaceful  colonial
Philadelphia, found it necessary to  move his  house  from High
Street to Second and Sassafras  because,  "The din of the  market
increases upon me, and that,  with frequent interruptions, has I
find, made me say some things twice over."
  The airplane has brought a  new type of noise to the area near
airports; a community annoyance that we recognize as serious and
that we are determined to reduce in every reasonable way.
  As  we seek answers to  the aircraft noise problem, the con-
tinued functioning and growth of the air transportation industry
itself  hang in the balance.  Construction  of several new airports
is being challenged on environmental grounds, resulting in costly
delays, if  not  outright cancellation.  Long-planned,  desperately
needed airport expansions are  being abandoned due to public and
governmental pressures. Public concern about the noise from po-
tential STOL ports—and from new STOL and long-range super-
sonic  aircraft—has  produced  strong  political  pressure  for
abandonment.
  Legislation passed in California—and  proposed in  New York,
Maryland,  and Connecticut—would, although  primarily directed
at SST's, sharply restrict—if not  ban completely—all existing
commercial jet aircraft from these States. The most efficient long-
distance transportation system ever developed could be paralyzed,
if not destroyed, were such rules allowed to stand and be enforced.
  The aviation industry has failed to  convince the general public
either that progress has been  made, or that future developments
in commercial air transportation will bring significant progress
towards quieter aircraft.
  Each  airport, each  community,  has its own individual prob-
lems ;  no curealls are in sight. We agree with FAA Administrator
Shaffer that, "In the long, run, the solution to the noise problem
will  probably  be  partly  technical,  partly  procedural,  partly
environmental."
  The DC-10, which we will introduce into service here in mid-
August, is  the first commercial  jetliner in airline service which
meets the new  sound level  standards  established by the  Federal
Aviation Administration. The  DC-10 is about  15 decibels  quieter
than long-range B-707 or DC-8 jets, and from 4 to  10 decibels
quieter than the Boeing 727. This achievement was made possible
because, when the DC-10 was in the planning state, American and
other airlines required noise reduction to  the existing state-of-art
in  the design specifications  to the makers of both aircraft and
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  It is  understandable why laymen would suggest retrofitting
current jets with engines and acoustic treatment like those used
so successfully in the DC-10.  Indeed, most State and  local  re-
sponses to  the Federal  Aviation Administration's "Advanced
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on Aircraft Noise Retrofit" insist
that noise retrofit be required. These responses have cited publicly
available literature  to  prove technical  feasibility and  the  eco-
nomic reasonableness of retrofitting. Yet, the tests demonstrating
technically achievable reductions relate almost entirely  to  ap-
proach noise only—dominated by high frequency fan noise—and
applies only to certain four-engine aircraft, which account for less
than a third of the free world's airline fleet.
  By contrast, airline responses  to the ANPRM have expressed
concern over the economic implications  of requiring a noise
retrofit  program without first determining whether the noise
reductions  which are  believed  by  some  to be technologically
achievable are in fact, "meaningful."
  In fact,  there is  good  basis  for  doubt that the community
would be able to perceive that "meaningful relief" had actually
occurred, since tape recordings of treated versus untreated air-
craft—spaced by intervals of perhaps  3 to 5  minutes—are  not
perceivably  different, except to a trained professional. However,
it seems that many public officials have somehow been convinced
that such retrofit would  succeed  in  doing  so,  and  are  insistent
upon mandatory retrofitting.
  No noise-reducing  retrofit kits of  any description whatsoever
can be brought today on  the market. The fact  remains that  the
noise reductions which would be derived from a billion-dollar noise
retrofit  program would  occur gradually over a period of about 3
years, starting 2 years  from time of  go-ahead. By then—1976 at
the earliest—many of the  aircraft would be retired or scheduled
for retirement. Even  if  flightworthy  noise-reduction  kits  for
retrofit were now available, the airlines do not have the ability to
finance the more than billion dollars they would  cost.
  Furthermore, there  is  little knowledge of  the  fundamental
technology required to reduce the noise of one of the common jet
engines powering  many  present short-  to medium-range  jet
transports.
  Only  now is a noise-reduction  program starting on the JT8D
engine which powers the DC-9, 737, and 727 aircraft. Fan noise is
not the major  problem with  these  engines;  their problem is
relatively  high  velocity,  and  low frequency jet noise.
  In any case, care must  be taken to insure that the ability of
existing aircraft to do their required missions is not impaired by
noise reduction modifications to the point where they are  unsafe
or uneconomical.
  In spite of today's apparent sophistication, much is still to be
learned. Concerted efforts to fill  the  gaps in our knowledge  are
leading to  a  rapidly evolving science, both  theoretically  and
empirically.
  A case  in point is the  Boeing 747.  Its  design for low noise
received a great deal of attention prior to the  establishment of
specific noise criteria or  the promulgation of a definitive noise
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features had been  frozen, new  knowledge  became available  re-
garding the effects  on noise of nacelle configuration, duct dimen-
sions, and sound-suppression material absorption characteristics.
Some of this new knowledge was later incorporated  in  redesign
of the 747 powerplant installation  (at considerable added develop-
ment cost).  However, other features—such  as a major change to
the nacelle configuration—could not be incorporated  in  the pro-
duction aircraft simply  because  their effect  was  not clearly
understood  in  time to  permit  its  incorporation  before   the
hardware was produced.
   The  747 nonetheless represents a  significant advancement in
aircraft noise reduction. The 747's produce  noise levels no worse
on takeoff, up to 7  EPNdB  less  on approach, and  4 to 6 EPNdB
less  on the sideline, compared  to other  four-engine  transports
which  are in service today.  These reductions are especially note-
worthy when you consider  that the 747 is  twice the size  of  the
previous four-engine transports.
   New knowledge,  not available to the designers and builders of
the 747, was available to the designers of later aircraft. This was
incorporated in, and will result  in  somewhat quieter  Douglas
DC-10  and  Lockheed L-1011  airline  transports.
   Noise reduction doesn't come  easily. Noises normally produced
include those  propagated forward of  the  airplane,  originating
mainly from the fan and compressor  states  of the engine.  In  the
aft quadrants of the engine are fan noise, turbine noise, externally
generated jet exhaust noise, and noise produced by the mixing of
the primary and cold  fan  streams.  Also,  noise  often  radiates
through the engine case, and combustion noise often  combines
with turbine noise.  Each specific  noise problem must be  solved
by techniques that must work  over  a wide range of operating
conditions. In addition, success  in suppressing  one noise source
unmasks other previously unsuspected sources. This may require
simultaneous suppression of several noise components. To find  the
best combinations of suppression materials and design techniques,
you need a lot of luck as well as  skill.
   Noise reductions  aren't  cheap—not when  1 to H/2  tons of
acoustic treatment goes along for the ride on every trip, nor when
it costs roughly  $200,000 per aircraft extra for  this treatment
alone.
   Development  of  the acoustically  treated Boeing  747 engine
nacelle  cost  $105 million. The cost of the acoustic treatment  for
American's  16 747 aircraft was roughly $4 million. The  added
weight  of the acoustical material  on each 747 is  the equivalent
of 26 passengers on a trip.
   Noise reduction also takes a great deal of time. Conceived in
the mid-1960's, the quieter  747  was committed  to  production in
1966, and made  its entrance  into service almost 4 years later.
The same elapsed time also  holds for  the DC-10.
   Any aircraft change, such as  a  noise alleviation change, must
be worked out to justify its specific purpose. In  addition, it must
satisfy  the basic requirements of  airworthiness and  must be so
justified to the proper Government agencies. This demonstration
or certification process is laborious,  time-consuming  and often
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the basic  intent of the change. Hence, there is understandable
pressure to maintain status quo in a given fleet and introduce the
changes in  newly  procured aircraft  as product  improvement
items, or  as  entirely  new models.
  In the noise field, we have been  dealing with a very fluid, non-
definitive  science. It has been difficult to measure the noise ema-
nating from  aircraft  and  to quantify this noise  in terms of an-
noyance to persons on the ground. This  quantification  is still
rather incomplete.
  Secondly,  there  has been lack of correlation  of fundamental
principles with  actually demonstrated engineering accomplish-
ment. For example, at approach conditions all  the new engines
make more noise than they ought to  according to fundamental
theory. This has been most frustrating.
  Thirdly, there has  been only a  partial understanding of the
physical behavior of various noise  sources. There has not been an
organized volume of experiments with widely different configura-
tions of noise sources to verify the theories that may explain the
physical phenomena that are talking place.
  In the area of activity pertaining to large jet-type transports,
there have been several  significant scientific  developments over
the years. The first was the mathematical definition by Light-
hill, an English scientist and mathematician—of the behavior of
pure jet noise emanating from the high velocity jet immediately
behind the engine.  His work, which has been definitely verified,
postulates that  the  sound intensity varies as the eighth power of
the jet velocity in the region of primary interest. This work was
published  in the early  1950's.
  The second significant work was the  contribution of Messrs.
Tyler and Sofrin of the Pratt & Whitney Corp., in the early 1960's
—a mathematically derived and experimentally  verified general
theory of  noise generation from rotating and stationary blading
elements.  This  equipped  the industry  to eventually deal  with a
whine of the  turbofan  engine.
  As things  stand now, we have little basic  theory to go on be-
yond these two milestone works. Much of what  has been accom-
plished  has been done by brute force and complete empiricism.
  Against this  background, the first generation  of jet transports
was  introduced and  fitted  with sound suppressors.  The  sound
suppressor stemmed for the work of  Greatrex  in  England and
provided potential for marked reduction in high-velocity jet noise.
As the available engines for the original 707's and DC-8's were
jet engines, this technique was effective in reducing their noise
patterns. In the case of the 707, by contract, Boeing was required
to fit the airplane  with suppressors  which  reduced the overall
noise level by at least 11 decibels.  This requirement was met, but
on a subjective scale the results were only of the order of  5 or 6
decibels reduction. Even though they resulted in enormous losses
of efficiency, suppressors  were required by the  airlines in their
procurement negotiations, dating back to 1955.  It has been esti-
mated that  the  suppressor  costs  approximately  $10,000 per
airplane annually in increased operating expenses.
   Knowledge of the  working of  the Lighthill formula  of  jet
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turbofan engine, which has a markedly reduced jet velocity com-
pared  to  the straight  jet  engine. It was postulated that  this
reduced jet  velocity  would  markedly reduce  community noise.
Since even in the propeller days, takeoff had been their prime
noise problem, the airlines naturally were interested  in  jet air-
craft takeoff noise. American decided to introduce the turbofan
engine on a conversion basis, across the board,  in order to reduce
takeoff noise. This was especially important at New York's Idle-
wild Airport, where a transcontinental  flight could not take off
without creating an unacceptable  level of noise.
  Thus, the turbofan engine was  sponsored by the airlines, and
its introduction was forced by the airlines. However, while the
turbofan did reduce the external  jet  noise, it developed an un-
wanted increment  of fan whine due to the new large fan. As the
fan whine turned out to be very annoying relative to other types
of noises, it  was soon recognized that action  would  have to be
taken in this field, too. In the case of American, which  had al-
ready begun  converting its existing jet engines to  fan engines,
the condition seemed serious enough to consider halting the whole
program.  Pratt & Whitney embarked on a  crash program to
attempt to modify the fan design to reduce the apparent  level of
the whine.  A modification—somewhat facetiously referred to as a
"hush kit"—was  developed and  incorporated into  production
engines as soon as possible. American further converted over 100
engines which had been produced prior to the development of the
kit. Again, the thrust behind the conversion program was airline
management's recognition  that all possible steps had to be taken
to ameliorate the problem.
  Concurrently, the industry developed,  in cooperation with the
FAA and many local agencies, a series  of noise abatement pro-
cedures designed  to direct airplanes  over sparsely settled areas
wherever possible  and to take  such steps in flying technique as
would minimize the noise actually reaching the ground. This has
resulted in circuitous  routings in and out of  airports and has
considerably  increased  airplane operating expense  through ad-
ditional time in the air. It is apparent that these procedures are
also  responsible to a large  degree for today's congestion at many
airports.
  American  Airlines,  since  the early jet  days, has  attempted,
insofar as  possible, to insure that each  succeeding aircraft pro-
curement  model  was  quieter  than the  one  that  preceded  it.
Hence, each of American's aircraft contracts—starting with the
727  contract—has  had a  detailed  and  specific noise guarantee
section. The section has set the maximum noise  limits appropriate
to specific  missions performed by that type  of aircraft. Air-
craft covered include the 727-100 series, the 727-200 series, the
BAG 1-11-400, the  Boeing 747,  and most recently,  the  DC-10.
  Of particular interest was  American's procurement  of the
727-200,  or stretch series. At American's demand, its engine was
equipped with a sound-absorbing treatment in its discharge duct
—which  I  believe is the first  application  of large-scale sound-
absorbing treatment to any engine in commercial  service. The
treatment itself was not very effective, since it only reduced the
approach noise by approximately 3 decibels. But in combination
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whose community noise exposure was no worse than the earlier
standard short bodied, series  100  airplane.
  With  the advent of the turbofan engine, perhaps the key con-
tribution to our knowledge was the Tyler and Sofrin work on fan
whine in the early 1960's. This landmark  effort gave designers
clues to how to build  quieter high bypass turbofan  engines. A
whole family of engines resulted from this  work—the Pratt &
Whitney JT9D, the General Electric CF-6, and the Rolls-Royce
RB.211. All  of them incorporated single stage fans with no inlet
guide vanes and with  maximum spacing between the rotor  and
the stator blades to minimize  fan whine. Engines of  this family
power the  Boeing 747, the Douglas  DC-10 and the upcoming
Lockheed L-1011.
  It is important to note here that both private and public re-
search rapidly escalated during the development of these airplanes
and engines. But our procurement commitments for both 747 and
the DC-10 were made, and the designs frozen, well before the
promulgation of Federal Aviation Regulation part 36 dealing with
noise limits.
  The 2 years' experience gained  between initiation of the 747
project  and the DC-10 increased our knowledge enough for the
DC-10 to meet FAR.36. Further, American Airlines procurement
requirements delineating aircraft noise for use at LaGuardia Air-
port were the binding design criteria on the DC-10, and these
requirements did in fact  anticipate the Federal  regulation both
timewise and quantitatively.
  The  airlines are continuing to  explore every  means at  their
disposal  to  further  reduce  community noise.  It is  known that
steeper  flight paths reduce noise for both takeoff and especially
approach. Yet, with the instrumentation currently available and
installed in the aircraft, quantum increase in the angle of approach
cannot  be  made  within  the  constraints  of necessary  systems
safety. American Airlines has initiated an indepth program to
explore  what instrumentation and flight techniques might be re-
quired to utilize steeper approaches. This work is now underway
under NASA sponsorship. We have also been experimenting with
the use of reduced flap settings as an operational technique for
reducing approach noise. This has long been  implemented on the
727 aircraft, and  only recently was  certified  through our  ini-
tiative—on all our heavier 707 aircraft. American has this year
certified its  707-300 series aircraft for reduced flap settings for
landing  and  is  proceeding  to  implement  this technique. A
measurable reduction in noise level is  anticipated.
  Against this background, I wish to propose a comprehensive
national research program for aircraft noise alleviation.
  Such  a program should  include national  goals  for reducing
the allowable noise  levels of  new aircraft gradually over time
towards some reasonable objectives. A goal for the "next genera-
tion" of commerical transports should be  a reduction  of 10
EPNdB—referred to FAR.36 criteria—with a further objective
of a 15 EPNdB total reduction. These appear  supportable based
on past progress and average out to between 3 to 5 EPNdB per 5
years. However, this is not a guaranteeable, automatic, continuous
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"invention cannot be  scheduled."  Nevertheless, our  improving
noise technology appears capable of generating this average level
of noise reduction for  an aircraft of a  fixed size.
  Fundamentally,  such a national goal  should be implemented
by lowering  FAR.36 noise  levels  as  frequently as noise reduc-
tion  technology  permits,  which should average 3  to  5 EPNdB
every 5 years.  In specific cases,  or  when technological break-
throughs  occur,  more stringent rules or  accelerated  revision of
the rules  should be undertaken. It should be clearly understood,
however,  that revised rules should not be applied  retroactively.
They should only be applied to aircraft whose formal development
commences after the establishment of the rule.
  Further progress  depends on our obtaining a more complete
understanding of both noise generating mechanisms  and the prop-
agation and attenuation of noise in the atmosphere. Our knowl-
edge about  both is  incomplete. Airlines, airplane and engine
manufacturers,  various  technical societies,  and  the  Federal
Government are all involved in  these studies. NASA alone spent
$13.5 million for such research projects during fiscal 1971.  Un-
fortunately, the  required  intensive research has been underway
only about 4  years.
  To support such a national program, we must begin additional
basic research on the physics of aircraft noise generation, prop-
agation, measurement, and control, and on the subjective aspects
of human annoyance.
  1.  The  most pressing basic  research need—both in terms of
understanding today's problems and guiding future research—is
in the area of human response to aircraft noise.  Until  a more
complete understanding is achieved of what type of  community
noise is "acceptable," judgment as to where the noise  research
funding should  be  expended will at best be  speculative.  The
effects of high and  low frequencies,  pure tones, spectral shape
and  absolute level and rate of exposure—repetition—need to be
understood in terms of their individual and combined effects on
human  responses. This research  is needed  to  support current
studies on the potential  benefits of noise retrofit, to provide direc-
tion  for advanced research projects, to provide guidance for de-
sign of future conventional,  high-speed, and STOL aircraft  and
propulsion systems, and to determine environmental  impact of the
air transportation system as a  whole. Current  procedures, such
as the  Noise  Exposure Forecast, are inadequate in  their present
form to provide the  answers and  guidance required. In addition
research must take  into  account  not only the social  aspects of
noise annoyance, but the  medical  ones as  well. I am  pleased to
note that EPA will cover both subjects in depth at a  later hearing.
  2.  Jet noise from  low and high bypass ratio  engines  with jet
velocities of 800  to 2,000 feet per second requires closer attention.
NASA-supported research  in  fan noise  suppression has  been
successful in obtaining reductions in fan noise of as much as
15 EPNdB at approach power where the fundamental jet noise
is low.  But, no  reductions were found at  power settings where
engine noise  is  dominated by jet  noise.
  3.  Current  research  supported  by  NASA on quiet fan  and
compressor noise if  national goals are to  be reached.

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  4. Noise suppression for  high velocity  jets—2,000  feet  per
second  and  greater—received  significant  attention  under  the
recent U.S. SST  effort. Since significant progress was  made on
advanced  suppressor designs, the  results  of the  U.S. testing
should be formally prepared and published. It is very desirable, if
not essential, that research studies be continued in this area, to
support continued research  in future transonic and supersonic
commercial and military  aircraft which will require propulsion
systems with high jet exhaust velocities.
  Systematic  evaluation  of, and  experimentation  with,  noise
measurement techniques are required for continued progress in
noise reduction, estimation and evaluation. We know far too little
about  the  effect  of   real  atmospheric  conditions  on  noise
attenuation.
  Beyond this research, we also need new public-policy attitudes.
As  mentioned earlier, apparently slow progress in reducing air-
craft noise has led to a proliferation of  antinoise legislative acts
at all government levels—right on  down to some of  the smallest
municipalities.
  Some pieces  of legislation  have been technically sophisticated,
although the economic implications  of  meeting them  could be
disastrous. Others have been extremely naive and simplistic.  Yet
almost without exception, no two  proposed or enacted statutes
have  been  alike.  For example, the Federal Government (FAA)
uses as its  noise measurement and certification unit effective per-
ceived noise decibels (EPNdB). The Port of New York Authority
has been  using perceived noise  decibels (PNdB)  for  about 12
years. The State of California's recent antinoise legislation (which
is to go into effect next December  1) uses  the A-weighted noise
scale  with  a duration correction time constant of  1  second. The
city of Chicago recently considered—but wisely  did not enact—
an  aircraft antinoise  ordinance using  a noise  unit similar to
California's but with a duration correction  time constant of 10
seconds. The State of New York has been considering a bill which
uses uncorrected  dBA.
  Imagine  driving your automobile from California with a speed
limit of 60 m.p.h., into Arizona with a  speed limit of 45 knots,
into New Mexico with a speed limit of  110 kilometers per hour,
and on into Texas with  a speed limit of 150 feet per second. None
of the speed  limits are comparable  of course. Imagine how much
more difficult it  would be to try  to operate an entire fleet of
aircraft daily in the face of local  and  State noise rules using
different  units  and  measurement  locations,  and  requiring
different operating procedures.
  To head off  potential regulatory chaos, the airlines  advocate
Federal preemption of the field  with respect to noise regulation.
Only  with  one  consistent   set of rules—encompassing both
rational and  compatible  criteria  for design, certification  and
flight  operations—can  a  safe and  effective  job of minimizing
aircraft noise on  the ground  be accomplished.
  Furthermore, the setting  of noise standards and regulations,
and their enforcement, should be the responsibility of a single
regulatory agency  which also has the  prime responsibility  for
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no logical separation of noise standards from design and operating
criteria involving airworthiness  and noise  abatement. Thus, the
regulatory agency which guides the flight safety aspects of avia-
tion,  and  which already  has the  expertise and  manpower to
support aircraft noise abatement activity, should also set stand-
ards for design, operation and enforcement—if necessary—with
respect to noise after due consultation with the Federal Environ-
mental Protection Agency.
  As technology becomes available, the airplane engine will be-
come quieter, but at no point can we foresee  a perfectly  silent
airplane  engine. Airports are not going to be silent places in the
foreseeable future.
  As a  consequence,  there  must be more effective zoning  by
appropriate authorities to inhibit noncompatible uses of property
adjoining airports. Builders continue to  erect homes and apart-
ments directly  under flightpaths, even  though they know,  or
should know, that the people who live in these dwellings are going
to be made uncomfortable by the noise. A  prime example is the
"Twin Pines Development,"  a  State low-cost housing project
slated for the Canarsie section of Brooklyn. It will place 20,000
people some 800 feet under an approach to Kennedy Airport now
used heavily to divert noise from other densely populated  areas
of Brooklyn. Not long ago, the New York papers also announced
a State housing project proposed for Floyd  Bennett Field, also
directly beneath heavily trafficked Kennedy Airport approach and
takeoff paths.  If these  were isolated instances, they would  be
understandable  or forgiveable—but  they  happen  all  too  fre-
quently, all over the country. It is difficult to understand how any
government—Federal, State or local—can  justify such obvious
disregard to the citizens it represents and  purportedly protects.
  Since  local zoning  jurisdictions  often overlap and  conflict,
Federal model airport zoning ordinances  are  needed  for local
consideration and implementation. This will promote truly com-
patible use of land around airports, including light industry;
businesses functionally  related to airport  activity—like airline
suppliers;  vendors  of  food,  maintenance and fuel; freight  con-
solidators   and  handlers—soundproofed  indoor   recreational
facilities—like  bowling alleys.
  The problem of environmental control must be attacked by  all
sectors of society; government,  producers,  and consumers.
  Government is at fault when it subordinates real improvement
to apparent improvement. Government is also at  fault when it
fails to enact  realistic  standards, or to exercise  governmental
restraint  to protect the public against noise-wise  incompatible
uses of property.
  The producers—the manufacturers  and  the  airlines—are  at
fault  if they  fail or  refuse  to  utilize existing techniques  and
devices to reduce noise. They  are also at fault if they fail to under-
take the necessary research to accomplish further improvements.
  As  to consumers, we believe they are prepared to  pay for  the
added costs of environmental control. However, they  are at fault
if they fail to  elect public  officials  who  will carry out rational
programs necessary to such control. They can also be faulted for
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steps  to  protect themselves from  noise problems. This is espe-
cially true of  people who choose to move  into housing near an
airport, and subsequently complain bitterly about the noise.
  Each of us bears a heavy responsibility to protect our own and
future generations from burdensome noise. I hope that my state-
ment here today will contribute positively to your splendid efforts
to develop sound and fiscally  sensible  recommendations  to  the
President and  to the Congress. I thank you  for the opportunity to
participate in  your program today.
  Dr. MEYER.  Mr. Kolk, I can  assure you that  your statement
will contribute in a positive manner to the effort the Environ-
mental Protection  Agency  is  undertaking. I appreciate your
candor, in telling it as it is, or how you see it; and before I ask a
couple of questions myself, I will appreciate it if you would take
the time  for a few minutes  and respond to questions from  the
panel; it may  be that  you may want to answer some of these for
the record in writing,  in which case if you do, we will make them
available to the press here, of course, at the time we receive them,
because this is  a public hearing. I realize you  are on a tight
schedule.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Your statement  is very complete, and
I just  have one question. You  propose  a reduction  in noise,  as
you say,  as technology makes it feasible. I think we have to agree
that there is implicit  in this proposal some judgment as to how
much performance  should be  improved as technology  permits
it, and how much noise should be reduced,  and I  gather that you
more  or  less agree  with NASA's  position  that 10 dB reduction
from  FAR.36  is conceivably possible within  10  years, but you
have reservations as to how this reduction should be implemented,
whether  it should be  by  rulemaking, or by taking advantage of
the technology as it offers itself.
  Now,  I wonder if you  could give us  any judgments  as  to
whether  it would be possible to implement these recommendations
faster; that is, reduce noise  faster if we were willing to accept
somewhat larger economic penalties.
  Mr. KOLK. I think that the process that you describe really goes
something like this: You have two alternatives, you can research
behind closed doors  for a period  of time and come up with a large
amount of technical goodies, a  big hunk, and then you can start
out with a clean sheet of paper. You can  design an engine, and
you can design an airplane, and  you can design a  nacelle to carry
the engine, and you can come up with a very,  very startling step
function  reduction in  noise in that vehicle.
  Now, this is the  process which we have gone  through on the
DC-10. The DC-10 started out on a clean  sheet  of paper, and  it
was designed  specifically to bring the lowest noise that appeared
to be physically possible within the limitations of the then state of
the art.
  Now, I will say that you can always ask me,  well, why don't
you put  in some more sound proofing? And I say,  in effect, in
the effect on an airplane design, eventually you  get to the point
where the damn thing gets astronomic. You use up rapidly all the
payload,  or to  provide payload the size of the airplane gets to be
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sharp break between what you can easily make an airplane as a
transportation tool, and the most that someone who is concerned
purely with noise, to the exclusion of any other element would
come up with; these are different points of view.
  I believe that  in transportation we have to  sort of go back to
one of the old stories that one of my professors at MIT said, or
quips that he made when I was a sophomore, that the most efficient
way of running  an airplane—or  an amplifier, was to turn it to
off. That was the only way you could make the output equal the
input, and I think  the airplane is somewhat  the same way.
  If you postulate that you are going to have transportation and
I postulate  that we  are  going to have  transportation, if  the
American society is going to exist in the form  that it is  in today,
then you  must  compromise the requirements of transportation
and noise to a very reasonable degree, and we believe that we have
been steadily making progress towards working that  compromise
right.  Now, in  terms of  the retrofit,  which I  think  you  are
alluding to	
  Professor KERREBROCK. No, no,  I am not.
  Mr. KOLK. To  push the noise back down?
  Professor KERREBROCK.  No.
  Mr. KOLK. All right.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Let me ask the question in a slightly
different way. I  think it's  clear to all of us that the DC-10, when
it  goes into operation,  will represent a much  more  effective
transportation tool,  in your  terms, than  the  aircraft that it
replaces.
  Mr. KOLK. Yes.
  Professor KERREBROCK. To what extent do  you think part of
this potential as a transportation tool could  have been sacrificed
for greater noise  reduction?
  Mr. KOLK. Well	
  Professor KERREBROCK. This is the question.
  Mr. KOLK. I knew no way of making that airplane significantly
quieter than it was. It is possible to have put multiple splitters in
both ends of the fan, and I would imagine that it might produce
a reduction of perhaps a further decibel or so. The airplane with,
those fitted with  those characteristics would no longer be a trans-
continental airplane. Now, that is the kind of compromise  you have
to make.
  Now, we are not going after the last decibel that is  going to
cost 10 times as  much as all the other decibels  put together; that
is the point I am trying to make. We can't afford to.
  But we can go a very, very long way in the design of a fluid
airplane to carry an awful lot of  stuff. There is 3,400 pounds of
soundproofing in the DC-10 in those nacelles alone. That is dead-
weight soundproofing, and I believe that that was all we could—
well, you are going to  have some other people that are  going to
talk about that in detail, and I shouldn't waste the time.
  Dr. MEYER. Any other questions?
  Professor KERREBROCK. No.
  Mr.  MARTIN.  Just  one question, Mr.  Kolk; will the general
public living under the flight path, with the mix now  bringing in
this new aircraft, will he in anyway be  able  to recognize what
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  Mr. KOLK. My own ears tell me so. I can tell the difference if
I am sitting on my patio, with my drink at the end of the day,
what kind of airplane is going over because I recognize their noise
signature, and I really believe that anyone who is exposed to this
kind of noise for any period of time, can take some interest in it,
can very, very rapidly, and very quickly develop that knack. There
is no doubt in my mind that, for instance, a 747 makes a great
deal less noise than  a  707 in practice  around communities,  and
the limited demonstrations  that we have made with the DC-10
have been really very startling in this regard. There is no doubt
that they  can be heard, and they will be significant.
  Mr. HINTON. Mr.  Kolk, will you maintain the candor of your
remarks in responding to this question with regard to the FAA?
I wonder if you could tell us if you have any knowledge or reason
why the FAA has not, as you have recommended  in your state-
ment, established operating criteria for noise reduction, as well
as you have  suggested, promulgated  a model zoning ordinance
advising communities around airports  in this country what  the
situation is like, and is likely to become?
  Mr. KOLK. Did I say that I wanted the FAA to make the model
zoning ordinance? I don't think they are the appropriate body,
but I think someone has to.
  To go back, now, in terms of the procedures, I think that FAA
is moving towards procedures,  and  I think  you very  well  are
aware of  some of the behind-the-scenes battles  that we  have  be-
tween people who are  charged  primarily with the safety of  the
enterprise and people who are charged  primarily with the noise
aspects of the enterprise.
  It's always easy for a guy that is in charge  of noise to say that
a guy that is in charge of safety is a hidebound reactionist, and
I think  that we have to recognize that he has the basic human
charge that we must protect.
  Now,  I  think progress is being  made, but I would agree with
you, with your inference, that it  ought to come faster.
  Mr. HINTON. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Before passing on, since I am the man who is  the
hidebound, hard-nosed human protector,  Mr. Kolk, let me  ask
you a question, based  on your testimony and your very candid
statements here. How do you feel  about the way the administra-
tion proposes to deal with  this  question of zoning and noise in
which the Federal Government sets what amounts  to point emis-
sion noise source standards  for  a variety of transportation and
other sources but leaves to the  States and  their political sub-
divisions the responsibility, as well as  the authority? And I em-
phasize  "the responsibility," placing it  squarely where it should
be for establishing what amounts  to use requirements or zoning
provisions; and in this structure,  of course, we in the  Environ-
mental Protection Agency will be charged, under the legislation
now pending in  the Congress, with working with the States to
develop model laws and ordinances. Now, it's apparent that there
has to be  a bridge between these things. And my question is, how
do  you  feel about a situation  in which we  may  develop what
amounts to permitted human response zones of influence to noise
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concerned  with  safety  and  everything  else  to  meet  those
requirements ?
  It's not like saying, well, this is the noise exposure we expect,
and we don't expect any complaint at these levels, so that is all
right.
  Mr.  KOLK. Well, I think  this is, in some  respects, somewhat
idealistic, and my point there would be simply this, that the noise
sources and the noise annoyance that we get  today in our indus-
trial complex are caused by industry and transportation; industry
and transportation are the things that separate us from the 17th-
century rural life.
  The population in the United States is too high to maintain itself
at anything above starvation levels, and with the kind of indus-
trial complex that existed in the 17th century, if you want to go
back to the  17th century, you  are going to have to get rid of 90
percent of the people in the world.
  Now, I think that this is somewhat unrealistic, so  I think that
we have to strive  to do the greatest job that we can,  but we have
to recognize that not only is noise  environment per se important
to human  beings, but certain other things, like basic eating,
are important to them, too.
  Dr. MEYER. Before I pass this on  to any other panel member
who would  like to  ask you a question—and we  must move on
with our activities—I note that in your prepared statement you
are of the view that the more pressing basic research need is in the
area of human response to  aircraft  noise, and in this  you also
include the need for responsibility for determining environmental
impact of the transportation system at large.
  Mr. KOLK. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Do you feel that this should be done by the same
agency  that is setting the  standards for  the  aircraft,  as you
propose, which would be the FAA, or should it be  done by an
independent agency,  such  as the   Environmental  Protection
Agency-
  Mr. KOLK. Well-
  Dr. MEYER. Or  should  it be done together—I  will give you
several options here.
  Mr. KOLK. I think my answer  to  that may be flippant,  but I
think knowledge is knowledge, and  it doesn't matter who pays
for it. The problem is that there are a number of things that we
don't know about this problem that  we really need to know.
  I have in mind a NASA finance study that is being published—
it was performed by an outfit  called  TRACOR, where they did a
lot  of sociological work, and it's  quite evident from the results
that they had that a meaningful reduction in noise reaction of the
people who do react  to noise require so many decibels, so that it
is clearly well beyond our technological grasp today.
  Now,  I don't know whether  this is right or not, but they spent
a lot of money saying that I think that we need some cross check-
ing on this sort of thing, and if  it's true,  this is a very brutal
blow.
  Dr. MEYER.  I think what the Agency, under the mandate from
the President  and the Congress,  is  contemplating  is a broader
interagency and government type of industry and public approach
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  Mr. KOLK. Yes. Well, that is right.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. Any other questions?
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Kolk	
  Mr. KOLK. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Am  I  on? From your statement, and from
what my friend, Mr. Hinton, tells me, I understand that American
Airlines has been one of the leaders among the airlines in address-
ing the problem of noise,  and if  this is, in fact so, I would com-
mend you and American Airlines for doing it. You do make a few
statements in your remarks  that I would  like  to perhaps  get
you to elaborate on, if you would, for a moment. You make the
statement:
  Legislation passed in California—and proposed in New York, Mai'yland,
and Connecticut—would, although  primarily directed at SST's, sharply  re-
stricts—if not ban completely—all existing commercial jet aircraft from these
States. The most efficient long-distance transportation system ever developed
could be paralyzed, if not destroyed, were such  rules allowed to stand and be
enforced.
  That is a quote from your statement?
  Mr. KOLK.  That's right.
  Professor  PLACER. I find that,  Mr.  Kolk, to be quite strong
language, and I  wonder perhaps if you really mean that. Let's
explore  for just a moment with you the California legislation,
because that  is  the one that  is most pressing. Actually it's not
legislation so much as  it is both legislation and regulations of the
department of aeronautics of the State?
  Mr. KOLK. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. As I  understand the California regulations,
Mr. Kolk, in fact what will happen is that no airports, no aircraft
operation will be hindered or stopped or destroyed until a number
of things happen first.
  The first thing that must happen is there must be a determina-
tion by each county in  which these airports are situated that they
have a noise problem of such dimensions  as to require invoking the
procedures. This determination is  itself subject to appeal, public
hearings, and a whole process of determination there.
  Second, I take it part of  the concern  may be with the 65  dBA
standards set out in those regulations,  and  yet that is deferred,
the effective  date, until 1986, at which  time, hopefully,  some of
these aircraft that you refer to as being retired from  service will
have been retired—and  without  going into  details  as  to  the
California procedures, there  is  a substantial  provision detail
section for variances.
  Now, my information, Mr.  Kolk, and  this  is what I would like
you to comment on, the best information I can find out about the
California plan  is that  nobody  really  knows exactly what the
impact of the operation of this proposed program will be because
of these several  variables  that nobody  has had  experience with,
and I wonder how you could make the  blanket, unqualified state-
ment that anything like  this  must necessarily  paralyze, if not
destroy,  the entire aircraft industry?
  Mr. KOLK.  Well, my impression from studying the work, and
also from talking  to  a chap named Moore, who runs  the Los
Angeles  airport, was  that if  you discount  legal  maneuvers,
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in the fact that you can hire a lawyer and wiggle out of trouble
for 15 years.
  Professor PLACER. My colleagues in the profession take solace
in that, Mr. Kolk.
  Mr. KOLK. But if you literally  did  what the  intent was, you
would restrict operations  at  Los Angeles  airport right  now
abruptly to about 20  percent  of their present level.
  Professor PLAGER. Are you  talking about the 65 dBA require-
ment?
  Mr. KOLK. This is the cumulative.
  Professor PLAGER. Yes, 65 CNEL, but that won't go into effect
until  1986.
  Mr. KOLK.  I am really  talking  about  the initial cumulative
requirement. I can't think  in terms  of dBA  because I  am
calibrated to EPNdB.
  Professor PLAGER. Everybody has their own secret system.
  Mr. KOLK. Everybody has their hang ups. Everybody that gets
into this game is an expert by definition, and he invents a  new
unit, and now we have chaos, and we have more people inventing
units  than we have Carter inventing little pills, but really this is
an aside in relation to California. It was my impression that we
would have  a very, very great difficulty in the immediate future
in noise levels at Los Angeles, and resulting reductions in  fre-
quencies, but now I also	
  Professor PLAGER. Assuming	
  Mr. KOLK. I also mentioned certain other proposed legislation
in certain other States which I am sure  about. The New York
legislation  which was referred to would, in fact, ban  any  air-
plane that I know about except the DC-10 from operation in New
York  State, in the last form I saw. Now, it may have been changed
since  then, but I  think I had a copy of the last  one.
  Professor PLAGER. Right. That legislation hasn't been adopted,
has it?
  Mr. KOLK. No,  it has not.
  Professor PLAGER. Let me ask you another question, if I may,
Mr. Kolk.
  On pages 14 and 15 of your remarks, and in your statement,
you argue for a  single regulatory agency, and one consistent set
of rules. It was not entirely clear to me whether you meant  con-
sistent set  of  rules governing operations or whether you meant
governing airport operations or whether you meant governing land
use problems, or which part of the total dynamics of airport noise
you were dealing with, and yet back on page 2 of your statement
you start right  out saying—and I think accurately—that each
airport, each  community has its  own  individual problems; no
cure-alls are in sight.
  Now, I  wonder, do  I misread it? It seems to me  that there is
a problem in relating those two ideas—that is to say, if indeed
we must turn to a single—and I  presume you  mean Federal—
cure-all to have a consistent set of rules for the whole show, then
I wonder how you would deal with this problem of the individual
community and State difficulties and variations that you probably
referred to.
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accept  certain constraints. It's impossible, on the one hand,  to
comply with a law, a local law that is beyond the capability  of
your flying machines to comply with.
  In other words, it's possible to  erect local noise ordinances,
any one of which are of  such severity so that the  operator  of
aircraft has only one choice,  and that  is to stop operating.
  Professor PLACER. Wouldn't that be true  of a  Federal law  as
well? Couldn't there  be an equally observed Federal law?
  Mr. KOLK. That could be true of a Federal law.
  Professor PLACER. Yes,  so we are talking about observed laws,
not necessarily local  laws?
  Mr. KOLK.  But I believe there is a very  great danger of ob-
served local laws.
  Professor PLACER. How about observed Federal laws?
  Mr. KOLK.  I think there is some  danger  of  observed  Federal
laws, too,  but I don't think  this  is really anywhere  near  as
difficult a  problem.
  Professor PLACER. Why would that be?
  Mr. KOLK. Well, for instance, it tends to only be—there tends
to only be one forum to fight it out in. There aren't very  many
people in the world that can gallop around and attend local hear-
ings. We very rapidly run out of noise  experts in this business.
  Professor PLACER. And  yet the 20 million people who are pre-
dicted to be affected by airport noise operations aren't all situated
in Washington; they are all over the country, including the State
of Illinois.
  Mr.  KOLK.  No,  but they have  elected  representatives  in
Washington.
  Professor PLACER. Who don't have to hear the noise  because
they are not here. One further comment, if I might—or question,
Mr.  Kolk.  You put  a good  deal  of emphasis—and  it has  been
most helpful—in  your statement on things that the  airlines can
do, and things that—the  improvement that can be made in the
equipment.
  You hardly mentioned, if I understood  your statement, changes
in procedures,  operational  procedures, such as landing procedures,
such as this question of  changing  to a 3 percent  glide path—
again, you know, everybody is an expert—I read that somewhere,
such as takeoff procedures.  These  are the kinds of operational
procedures that weren't dealt with very much in your statement.
Is that a subject for somebody else's are or how do you feel  about
that?
  Mr.  KOLK. Well, I made  certain  statements in the prepared
testimony  which  do—in  my prepared statement—which  do
treat somewhat on that subject. I do feel that you  are going—I
notice on  the program this afternoon that you are going to have
some real airplane drivers on the panel, and I  would prefer  to
defer to those airplane drivers.
  Professor PLACER. Fine. Thank you, Mr. Kolk.
  Dr. MEYER.  Doctor Whitcomb.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I  hope  you don't cite the TEACOR study  as
evidence for not  reducing aircraft  noise by three dB when you
can—because in a sense you  are correct, their studies show if you
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matter too much how loud it  was. The noise wasn't the only
means, variables and  annoyance, but if you reduced noise 3 dB,
you are going to reduce the size of the footprint audibly on the
ground, and that means fewer people hear it, so even the TRACOR
people would say, yes, you should reduce the noise.
  The other  thing  you were commenting primarily about the
benefits of future aircraft having noise  reduction in them, and
sort of running the concept of retrofit down.
  I am concerned about that because though it has a lot of prob-
lems,  it is not a total answer; it is a personal answer, and most of
the objections are  essentially economic if you boil them down
ultimately.
  Why couldn't the cost of this retrofit be put on the ticket and
let the passengers who benefit have, you know,  one half of one
percent fare increase; how do you  feel  about that? Competitively
it wouldn't bother you in  competition with either the airlines or
not much with other carriers, other forms of transportation.
  Mr. KOLK. Well, I think in  the end this is going to—it is going
to appear on the ticket. I don't think there is any doubt that it is
going to  appear on the ticket, and I am not  adamantly opposed
to retrofit on  the principle of retrofit, but  I do feel that the
potential benefits of retrofit in light of the—have perhaps been
somewhat overplayed in the economics of, economic  hazards of it
are perhaps underplayed in the general scheme of things, in my
experience in  dealing with these kinds of matters, but were a
suitable retrofit scheme to come along, then I  think we are really
quite  morally bound to try to find a way of financing it.
  Our problem right now is that there really is a lot less available
on the open market than  is generally  realized in terms of how
many decibels do you buy for what dollars, and what performance.
  Professor PLACER. One quick comment, just  to follow through;
you did call for some research on human responses. Sometimes
the research can simply be a way of putting off  dealing with
the problem.
  I would invite your attention to some 60-odd  studies cited in
the recent proceedings of the SAE-DOT conference, many of them
dealing with  this very  problem,  including things like  "Use of
Social Surveys for Measuring Communities in Response to Noise,"
and "Effects on Mental Hospital Admissions and Aircraft Noise,"
so I think there is probably—maybe we  know  as  much as we
really need to  know that people are affected by it.
  Mr. KOLK.  I am  aware  of  those papers.  I  happened to be co-
chairman of that conference.
  Professor PLACER.  Maybe  we  don't  need too  much  more
research, then, perhaps.
  Dr. MEYER.  Very good.  Mr. Kolk, I appreciate  the paper that
you have given. It will be  most useful to the EPA in structuring
its plans for implementing legislation,  and also in submitting a
forthright report to the Congress  of  an analysis  of this  total
problem,  and I appreciate  very much the candor  with which you
have responded to the questions.
  Thank you,  sir.
  Mr. KOLK. Thank you.
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in our  discussions  about aircraft transportation  is  Mr. John
Cornell  of the General Electric Co.
  Mr. Cornell, you may summarize, if you desire, in the interest
of time.
  Mr.  CORNELL.  I  think  I  should like  to talk  my  way down
through this. I think  there are some  things to be said, with the
use of the slides, and so forth.
  Dr. MEYER. Very good.

   STATEMENT OF WILLIAM G. CORNELL, GENERAL ELECTRIC
  Mr. CORNELL.  I am sorry about the  John.  My  name is  Bill
Cornell. My title is acoustics and  aerodynamics consulting engi-
neer on the staff of the acoustic design  technology operation of
the General Electric Co.'s aircraft  engine group.
  Since joing GE in 1941, I have worked in the aircraft engine
group for 25 years in a variety of engineering assignments, the
last 5 years of which  have been on aircraft engine  noise.
  The General Electric Co. has been  producing aircraft engines
since the  early  1940's,  and aircraft  turbosuperchargers before
that. Our major engine noise activity began with the commer-
cial engines for the Convair 880 and  990 aircraft, in the middle
to late  1950's,  although  we  have been doing  noise  work  on
military engines for some time before that.
  Aircraft engine noise control activities in GE over the past
decade have included  work on programs as varied  as the reheat
turbojet engine for the  Boeing supersonic transport, all the way
out to high bypass ratio lift fans for vertical takeoff and landing
and short takeoff and landing aircraft, and the high bypass ratios,
ratio CFG engine, whose first application will be in the McDonnell
Douglas DC-10  wide  bodied subsonic transport which will enter
the commercial fleet next month, as Mr. Kolk said.
  Today's  discussion  will be  devoted to the noise control con-
siderations in the development of  the CFG engine to try to shed
a little physical light on what can be done, and how it is done.
  In deference to the chairman,  I shall skip through  some of
this.
  Why  don't we look at the first  picture.
   [Showing of first slide in series.]
  I will try to operate this shotgun over my shoulder.
  Dr. MEYER. May we extinguish  the lights so the panel and the
audience may see this, please; these over here also, please. Thank
you.
  Mr.  CORNELL.  Let  us start  off  in  our discussion of the CFG
engine by comparing  the various  engine noise sources as shown
in this slide.
  The schematic illustration shows the turbofan engine—I have
a picture coming up later that  will show more of the inside, but
here we have a turbofan engine where a relatively large diameter
fan, so-called like a big propeller inside of a can, sucks in all the
engine airflow in the front and puts some of it out the bypass
stream, and the  rest  of it through the core engine, which then
goes out the back.
  The bypass stream is the air that  goes  around the  central or
core engine. You can think of a core engine as crudely  like a first
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The bypass airflow emerges in  the cold, relatively low velocity
fan exhaust stream, while the core engine airflow emerges in the
hot, relatively high velocity jet exhaust.
  Now, I spoke of high bypass ratio engine. I should define what
I mean by bypass ratio. The ratio of the airflow which is bypassed
around the core engine to the airflow that goes through the core
engine is bypass ratio.
  The four noise sources of a turbofan engine are shown on the
figure [indicating] ; forward-radiated noise from the fan and the
compressor, aft-radiated fan noise, turbine noise and jet exhaust
noise.
  Forward-radiated noise comes from the fan which is immedi-
ately within,  and the  core engine  compressor, which is  down
further within; aft-radiated fan noise comes out the fan exhaust,
from the fan blade itself; turbine noise comes  out the core engine
exhaust from the turbine which is well upstream;  fan exhaust,
that is,  the noise source, and jet  exhaust noise comes  from the
mixing of the hot jet  with  the atmosphere.
  The fan  noise in  this type of engine, high bypass ratio engine
is the major noise source. The compressor turbine and jet exhaust
noise being relatively minor in their contributions to the overall
engine noise—and parenthetically I should  say physically about
noise, if two noises are going on at once you only hear the loud
one. You don't hear the clock ticking when  the  truck went by
kind of thing; that applies to this kind of noise also.
  Let's talk first about the jet exhaust noise; comparison can be
made among three  types of engines, aircraft jet  engines. First,
the early turbojet engine, such as General Electric's CJ805-3 tur-
bojet engine for the Convair 880 airplane. In this case the bypass
ratio is zero, by definition, as I mentioned parenthetically before.
  The second class of engine is the later low bypass ratio turbo-
fan engine, such as  the General Electric CJ805-23 engine for the
Convair 990 aircraft—in this case  there is a fan—it has a bypass
ratio at full  power of  about 1.5  to 1; 150 percent of the  core
engine airflow goes around  in the bypass flow, and then finally,
the one we are  talking about today, the modern CF6 turbofan
high bypass ratio engine has a full power bypass ratio of about
6 to 1, six  times as much flow as  in this low velocity,  cold flow
on the outside of the  core engine  flow, six times as  much as the
core engine flow.
  Now,  getting to the  point about the flow reduction in the high
bypass ratio engine,  as bypass ratio  increases as  the relative
amount bypass flow increases, the average exhaust velocity of
the fan  and jet exhaust streams decreases markedly, and the jet
noise is reduced.
  Thus, to  go back to my three classes of engines, just to cement
the point, the major sources in the  three classes of engines are jet
noise in  the  turbojet  engine, because it is almost  jet noise;  a
combination of jet  and fan noise  in low bypass  ratio turbofan
engines  and fan noise alone in high bypass ratio fan engines.
  Therefore,  jet exhaust noise is well below fan noise, and con-
sequently contributes little to overall engine noise at all operating
conditions in the CF6 engine.
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drives the fan is located within the core engine—you will see it
better in further pictures,  but it is upstream of  the  exhaust, up
in here  (indicating).
  This  turbine  was  designed having  relatively lightly loaded
stages, light aerodynamic  loading on the turbine blading which
results in turbine noise levels which do not contribute signifi-
cantly to the overall engine noise, and this has been demonstrated
by measurement of the  turbine noise—and  I  might say that  I
have made  an  attachment of a  substantiating  document  that
discusses that in somewhat more detail.
  Dr. MEYER. That will be in the record.*
  Mr. CORNELL. Fine.
  The core engine compressor of the  CFG engine is designed and
so placed in the core engine  well  down inside,  as you will see
from the future picture  that I haven't  shown you, but will  in  a
little bit, so  placed in  the engine that it does not—the  compressor,
that is, does not  contribute significantly  to the overall engine
noise, and this also has been demonstrated by noise measurements.
  Thus, as previously stated, the overall engine noise of the  CF6
engine is predominantly fan noise radiated out the inlet and the
fan exhaust  [indicating].
  Now, finally, let's get  to that next  picture that I said three or
four things  about and see if I  remember what I said  about it.
   [Showing  of next slide in series.]
  OK. Here is your fan [indicating] like the big propeller,  way
up front.
  There are the stationary blades behind [indicating] ; there are
some struts to hold the  outside on; the core  engine compressor I
keep telling  you about  is  hidden  down in here  [indicating], so
you can see  what I mean when I say it's very hard to  imagine the
noise sneaking out through all those blades, et cetera, it's hidden
away inside.
  The  turbines  are  well  in the back  and  well  upstream  here
[indicating], and very importantly, I should point out to you.
  I will now very carefully try  to draw acoustic  treatment  lines
the inside of the duct here [indicating], and it lines the inside
of the duct  here [indicating], and I will talk about that in more
detail later, but imagine  an acoustic  treatment to  be—and  I
always like  to have a ceiling to  point to, but we don't have  it in
King Arthur's Room—acoustic tiling on the ceiling  in a typical
office is the  same kind  of thing as we are talking  about here,
except that imagine it is very heavy duty type material—and I will
talk about that.
  These are the parts of the CFG  engine [indicating].
  As we look at the  engine picture we should comment that the
CFG fan itself, as the major noise source, was designed with noise
as a major  design consideration from the  beginning, and not as
a bandaid fixed  after the fact.
   Important noise control measures taken  were elimination  of
inlet guide  vanes—some of these  Mr. Kolk  mentioned.  In other
words, there are no  stationary blades,  no stationary  blades or
inlet guide vanes ahead of this fan rotor. This cuts down a certain
amount of fan whine. You  can sort of imagine this from thinking
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physically about how a siren works, if you will, as rotating blades
run past the stationary blades, a silent effect happens.
  Second, the use of large axial  spacing between the fan rotor
blades—it's a little  hard to see  that  [indicating]—and  outlet
guide vanes.
  I keep talking about more pictures; you will  see in later pic-
tures there is a  relatively large  axial spacing between  the  fan
rotor and the fan stator. This cuts down on more of this  siren-
type noise  that I was talking about.
  The second thing—or third  thing—I better  stop  numbering
them lest I forget the number—the  stator vanes are swept or
canted,  swept like the wing- of  an airplane. Perhaps you can't
see it from the picture, but there has been made an optimum
choice of ratio of number of rotor blades and stationary  vanes. I
think you can see there are relatively fewer rotary blades than
there are stationary vanes, and this has something  to  do with
minimizing fan noise.
  There is an optimum balance between fan rotational speed and
blade aerodynamic loading that  I  talked  about before—these
things must be balanced, and there is an optimum design of the
so-called booster stage between the fan exit and the core engine
compressor inlet—and I must say this picture is a beautiful work
of art done with an airbrush, but my next picture will show you
what I mean  by a booster stage.
  [Showing of next  slide in series.]
  Now, so  much as to what was done. Now,  let's show some data
on what came out.
  Let's  have the next picture, if you xvould be so good.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  In order to validate the  acoustic design, a 41 percent scale
model of the CFG fan was used to obtain acoustical data over the
operating range of the fan.
  The picture you are looking at now shows the measured noise
plotted vertically along the 200-foot sideline, meaning imagine a
line  through  the axis  of the engine,  through the center of  the
shaft, and walk out 200 feet to one side, and if we can move ahead,
or to perhaps  this bottom scale it will be a little more visible—I
am afraid I have got heads—the percent thrust is being shown at
full takeoff, full thrust and low landing  down to around  40  or
something like that.
  A  parenthetical remark, you  have heard the word  EPNdB—I
will be talking about perceived noise decibels and PNdB as I talk
here. This  is  based on measured decibels and objective measure-
ment with  microphones and reduction equipment, plus the  calcu-
lation that allows for  annoyance,  so the perceived noise decibel
was, as was  remarked before by  Mr. Kolk, I think, is  relative
not only to physical measurement, but to human annoyance, and
human annoyance is  the name of  the game we are talking about,
so I am talking about PNdB.
  This shows  the measured noise along  the 200-foot sideline in
perceived noise decibels compared to the  design predictions, with
and without the low noise features discussed above.
  A  noise  reduction  of 5 to 9  PNdB  over  the  operating  range
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decibels is equivalent to removal of between 68 and 87 percent in
fan noise  energy,  in  source noise  reduction—that  is, before
addition of the acoustic treatment in the fan  ducting.
  One predicts if we did not use those in this engine with some
kind of a scatter band from uncertainty, because that is not an
engine we  would want to design anyway, if we did  not use  the
low noise features, we would predict this, our prediction of  the
engine as designed with the low noise features, but without  the
treatment—because we tested  it that way,  is  the line  [indi-
cating], and  our little scattering of cherries  hits the prediction
pretty decently, but the main point is a noise reduction of some-
where between 5 and 9 has  been achieved without the treatment.
This is called source noise reduction.
  Now, to give you an idea of 5 and  9, there are all kinds of
number games you can play  with  decibels. I will give you two
calibrations, and I will go back to the way I wrote this down.
  I would like to say that if you have a given sound source, and
it's making a racket, and you reduce the energy of that source by
one half, you take out 50 percent of the noise, you get a 3-decibel
reduction. That is an energy basis, or since 10 is a good, round
number,  if you want a 10-decibel reduction, you need to take  out
90 percent of the noise,  and you only have 10 percent left. This is
the one  [indicating], but again after just  telling you that sub-
jective annoyance is important, a  10-decibel  reduction is some-
thing like half as annoying or half as loud, if you will, without
getting into  a lot  of detail,  that  is another kind of an  index
you can use,  so 10 dB is quite a bit in impact.
  Let's look at the next picture,  No. 4.
   [Showing of next slide in series.].
  This shows a schematic drawing of the CFG engine,  indicating
placement of the acoustic treatment. As noted above, the booster
stage can be  seen better here, as can the cant of the  outlet  guide
vanes. The acoustic treatment was developed to suppress the noise
radiated by  the fan  after  the  low noise features were added,
including major consideration of the detailed frequency spectra of
the fan noise as generated over the full operating  range from
approach to takeoff power.
  A so-called resonator-type  treatment was chosen  to  best suit
the engine environmental constraints, including high  air velocity,
and potential problems associated  with soaking various liquids,
freezing and thawing, and general  contamination. The basic type
of treatment  consists of a  perforated face sheet  on the airflow
side over  a  structure partitioned into  cavities which resonate
at chosen frequencies in order to aid absorption of sound energy.
  That is,  again think about your ceiling tile—particularly those
of you who have  hung some, and as you  know,  there are per-
forations into which the sound waves bouncing  up and  down
little  amounts of  airflow can go,  but  we  go further  than just
having the perforations. We have a sort of  an eggcrate structure
behind with  the volumes of these little cavities in the eggcrates
tuned to take out the kinds of frequencies  we want.
   On  the  basis of exhaustive  testing on  the 41-percent scale
model fan, as well as  laboratory  bench  scale testing, optimum
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and you are looking at where we finally deployed it  [indicating].
  Two types  of  treatment resulted, single-degree-of-freedom—
we  abbreviate that SDOF, or single-degree-of-freedom for the
inlet outer wall and exhaust inner wall, and multiple-degree-of-
freedom, or MDOF treatment for the fan frame and the exhaust
outer wall  [indicating].
  The SDOF,  single-degree-of-freedom treatment consists of a
perforated face sheet over a vertically partitioned cavity having a
single resonance frequency.
  And now I  do want the next picture.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The MDOF treatment shown here [indicating] is more com-
plex in cavity geometry, since it is designed to provide  multiple
resonance  frequencies, to  meet  engine structural requirements,
and to gravity-drain any liquids  entering the cavities.
  I think you  can see from the solid walls  and the slices in them
the kinds of things I  am talking about.
  Dr. MEYER.  Yes.
  Mr. CORNELL. There is more detail on that in the substantiating
documents.
  Now, let's have a look at the next picture.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The noise reduction obtained by the use of the acoustic treat-
ment is shown, first  in  this picture [indicating], which  shows
takeoff conditions, 100 percent thrust—and it's hard to see what
I have got, but it is a scale of PNdB, as I used before, and plotted
across the bottom  from 0° to 180°.  It says "angle from inlet"; it
means on the scale 0° as directly out in front of the  engine, 180°
is directly  out behind the engine, and 90° is right off to the side
of the middle  of  the engine, and so we  would call  this  in engi-
neering terms, a polar plot, and you will  see where the maximum
noise shows up. It's in this 110-odd degree aft quadrant, as we will
see,  and you  will see  that the  noise data  shows by traversing
around the engine, with numerous microphones, that  if I have my
noise reduction features only without the treatment,  I am up here
[indicating],  and if  I add  the  treatment,  I come down here
[indicating],  so   this  gives  you  an  idea of  how much the
treatment paid off.
  Indeed, at the maximum point in  the aft quadrant, something
like four PNdB reduction, the next picture shows the same kind
of consideration.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This is for  4D percent thrust, which is a power setting in the
landing approach range.
  Now as a result of the low noise features  and the acoustic treat-
ment, the noise level  of  the  CFG engine has been reduced from
about 13 to 15 PNdB over the operating range  of the  engine.
Physically a reduction of 13 to 15 decibels is  equivalent to a
reduction in sound energy of 95 to 97 percent. Accordingly, the
CFG engine has achieved noise levels significantly below  those of
previous engines,  and  represents a major step forward which will
assist in prevention of further escalation of airport  noise.
  Thank you.
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engineer,  but  you are able to translate complex subjects  into
meaningful and understandable terms, and we appreciate it very
much. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK.  I think, Mr.  Cornell, we can all agree
that the CFG represents a major improvement in engines. I have
some questions I would like to ask, however. In your verbal state-
ment one could  have been led to believe that indeed the CFG
engine was  optimized to reduce noise. Now, I don't  think that
you  really mean this, and,  in fact, if we look back at page 3 of
your written testimony, the statement you make is that the CFG
fan was designed with noise as a major design parameter, and an
optimum  design was obtained balancing effects on noise,  aero-
dynamic performance and weight, meaning to me that indeed you
balance these several factors—and I think that Mr. Kolk's testi-
mony is consistent with this; what I would like to know is if you
can  tell us just  to what extent the performance  of  the engine
was compromised in order to reduce noise to what, by  what
fraction  was  the direct  operating cost, say, of  the aircraft
increased  in order specifically to reduce noise?
  Mr.  CORNELL.  Well,  before I answer that  detailed  question,  I
would  like to back up and put the—answer a broader question;
then I will get back  to your detailed question. What I attempted
to do was to show that fan noise was the largest and most im-
portant noise source in this engine, but that we had very definitely
optimized the complete engine for noise, as Mr. Kolk said, it was
a clean sheet of paper, and we knew what the noise ground rules
were to be,  and  we  made for  sure we would not hear from jet
noise per  se, and this was by the choice of the bypass ratio as  I
discussed; then we made for sure the turbine noise wasn't being
heard from, and as detailed in the substantiating documents, we
went back in and really made for sure  about  that.
  The same with the compressor, but we knew the fan was going
to be the  noisemaker because it's a large, high rotational speed,
high airflow. It's a noisemaker, so that is why I concentrated on
it, and we optimized on that fan design from the beginning.
  Let me  remark, if you go back to the kinds of engines I talked
about in our Convair airplanes, and you looked  for  any of the
features that I discussed, except in the case of the fan engine for
the Convair 990, which happened to have no inlet guide vanes,
except for that fact, the spacing and the blade choice  and all the
other things, I went through this,  this was  not a consideration
in designing an engine.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  No,  I understand that	
  Mr.  CORNELL.  I am giving you the background.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  All right.
  Mr.  CORNELL. So that all the features  that I talked about are
generic to this generation  of engine, and they were  introduced.
Now, you say  what penalties? Well, Mr. Kolk already  indicated  a
little bit about 3,400 pounds being lugged around,  and not paying
for a ticket, and this kind of thing. Now, I am talking out of line,
but that hurts. I mean, I am an engine type, and I think you should
ask these  questions of the airline  people, like  Mr.  Kolk; however,
let  me say as follows: I know  that  we paid  for weight, for ex-
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talking about, I show you how we moved apart the rotating and
stationary  blades; we added a hunk of shaft casings, and the
rest of it that  Mr. Kolk was carrying around, too, so to speak;
every pound in the aircraft engine business, or airplane business,
every pound you add  that doesn't pay off, that is bad.
  You  asked the right  question about DOC (direct  operating
cost) ; I don't  happen to have  that  number  in my head, as an
engine  person  I frankly don't, at  the moment—as  an engine
person  I think that  you really should ask that question of the
person  who operates, such as an airline person, but there have
been performance penalties  largely from weight.
  Aerodynamic performance, there is some penalty as  you scrub
past the inside of a smooth wall,  it has little holes in it, there
are  some losses and  so forth—I  would say  total aerodynamic
penalties so far in this design, not very large, plus positive small
penalties—not much to worry about.
  I would say weight, yes, indeed. Going directly on top of direct
operating cost, weight penalties  definitely, but I don't  have a
quantitative answer for you.
  Professor KERREBROCK. All right. I have another question now.
GE, if I understand  correctly, is under contract to  NASA to
develop the prototype quiet engines	
  Mr.  CORNELL. Yes.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Which are,  in a sense, an  extension
beyond the CF6 in the quieting of aircraft engines.
  Mr.  CORNELL. Right.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I wonder if you could  give us some
indication of two things: First, on  what time schedule  do  you
think that  the  improvements that are represented by the quiet
engine can be incorporated in production engines, and secondly,
if possible, again this same question, what performance penalty
is going to have to be accepted in order to  reduce the noise level
by,  say, the next 10 EPNdB?
  Mr.  CORNELL. This  is a good question. I always like to answer
broader questions, but let me first talk about—and I don't want
to run the time up, I understand, right?
  Dr. MEYER. Go ahead; this is good.
  Mr.  CORNELL. The  quiet engine  program is a very important
thing. I want to state  first that the General  Electric program is a
technology  development program rather than an engine develop-
ment program,  that which we have been asked to do is to develop
technology. This is  an important consideration; the FAA made
this abundantly clear in their ANPRM,  talking about retrofit that
we were talking about before.
  We must not be deluded—and I am not trying to brag down a
program that we are all wound up in, or unbrag  it, but rather
this is not an engine  development  program to put it in the fleet
right then.  Sure enough we are working with flight weight hard-
ware and all that, but it  really is more  than a normal  technology
program.
  What kind of goals has it got? NASA has themselves announced
publicly that they would like to see—well, they would call it, say,
as an engine, 15 to 20 PNdB down from today's  engine, so  you
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number. They are looking for another 5 to 10 PNdB  range over
and above that thing, like  the  CFG. That is what NASA says
they are looking for finally,  and  we are developing technology for
them.
  The  program began in  June 1969;  it will  be over in, like,
August of 1972, our end of it, so to speak.
  I guess I  can't  speak  too well for NASA, but they will have
the technology in their hands at that point, so if somebody wanted
to lay down, depending on how good the results are and so  forth,
if somebody wanted to  lay down  an engine design,  maybe like
the first of 1973, I guess I am making a guess, an engine design
could  be  laid down, and a typical  engine development cycle is
something between 3 and 5 years to have it ready, and I think that
is the kind of an answer you were  looking for.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes. 1978?
  Mr. CORNELL. Something  of this order; yes.
  Mr. HINTON.  Mr. Cornell, the  quiet engine program has always
amused me because I think it's a  misnomer; it should be  some-
thing like "quieter" or something,  because it's still going to have
more  noise,  we are still going to  have aircraft noise, even if a
quiet engine with 10 dB down from a CFG would be like a third
generation  of  commercial  jet  transport engine; is  that your
opinion ?
  Mr. CORNELL. It could  be used for such a purpose, indeed,  right.
  Mr.  HINTON. And so  from that standpoint you say it's very
important that this investigation continue. I am glad to hear that.
  I am interested in the CFG; very briefly can you tell me whether
or not the engine is amenable in its thrust to noise curve, if there
is any direct line, you know, some engines,  for  example,  JT3D
is not very amenable to noise reduction unless you get the thrust
reduction, which is very,  very high. The noise curve is almost level
until the  thrust level is quite low.  How is the CFG, or typically a
high bypass ratio engine in this respect?
  Mr.  CORNELL. I  am thinking  about what you are saying. You
are imagining a curve of perhaps PNdB on  the sideline against
percent thrust, and you are asking me does it have a steeper curve
rather than a flattop curve?
  I am remembering, now,  but  I  think it ought  to be this way,
that the curve is steeper  at the low power settings, but it tends to
do a little flattening at the  high power settings, but I  think it is
steeper than the JT3D kind of engine. That is my remembrance.
As I said,  I am  trying   to think. What  I just said sounds
reasonable, but I am remembering. All  right?
  Mr. HINTON. All right. Thank you.
  Professor PLACER.  Who  wrote  the noise  specs  for the CF6
engine? Was that McDonnell Douglas?
  Mr. CORNELL. Who wrote the noise specs?
  Professor PLACER. Yes. In other words, who called  for making
the CFG a quiet engine for the DC-10 ? Whose idea was that, who
planned it?
  Mr.  CORNELL.  Well,  we  have   contractual  agreements with
McDonnell Douglas which have  very specific noise numbers in it,
but in all deference to Frank Kolk,  who may or may not still be
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other important airlines, as that airplane, and as this engine de-
velops, a lot of the airlines were right in the middle of the thing,
but the specific spec that we are talking about for this  engine,
that is going  into that airplane  next  month,  was  specifically
contractually agreed to between us  and McDonnell Douglas.
  Professor PLACER.  Part of the—I guess part of what I am
reaching for, Mr. Cornell, is what is  the responsibility,  the corpo-
rate responsibility of  a  company  like General  Electric  for
initiating or assuming some initiative in developing quiet engines,
quieter engines? I assume that the airlines don't need  to  specify
the fan blades  shouldn't fly off; I assume that the engine manu-
facturer has some responsibility for  some parts  of  producing  an
effective engine. What is  your  view  of  the  manufacturer's
responsibility  for incorporating quiet  into the  engine, whether
demanded by  the airlines or not?
  Mr.  CORNELL. Well,  I guess you can  answer this in a  variety
of ways, but on purely selfish basis, we decided some  years ago
that we wouldn't be selling any if we  didn't make  them  just  as
quiet as we could. On the other hand, my company is large  enough
that we feel we can  be statesmanlike, and  we have environ-
mental ideas in our corporate office which have been publicly an-
nounced and so forth, so for all reasons we really are working at
the problem, and we don't  intend to quit.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Could I inject  a question before we drop
this point? Wasn't it actually the impending FAR  36  which set
the noise regulations for the DC-10?
  Mr. CORNELL. Not really.  This was sort of concurrent, I think.
FAR 36 began in 1966 with the initial letter by Joseph Blatt,
Administrator  of the  FAA—Associate  Administrator, and this
kind of thing you will hear  more from  Mr. McPike shortly, who
will tell you that we have even got, we have even  done better than
those regulations, but obviously they were something  that we knew
were coming and so forth, but we have done better.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. This  is not a question as much as a comment,
but one thing that disturbs me is we have quiet, or quieter engines
for 20 years, and this really isn't your problem, I understand it's
a combination  of the companies, the engine companies, the air-
planes  and the airlines, when a more efficient engine comes up,
thanks to your  designing and such, typically what happens is that
it's put not on the initial airplane that it  might have been designed
for, but as a second generation comes along, it's put on  an air-
plane that has a stretched fuselage, carries more passengers, more
weight, and makes more money.
  And had this not happened, a lot of the current problems in air-
port noise wouldn't have come about; airplanes would  have  been
able to get off the ground faster, into the air and not  splattered
noise on the community—and I  would hate to see this cycle re-
peated, because engines have been  better and better, and  what I
dislike is what  is done with them.
  Mr.  CORNELL. These  are  difficult  considerations, and  I could
comment, but I think it would be smarter if I let the airframer,
and also another airline person comment on this particular thing.
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  Dr. MEYER. Yes, we are going to hear from another portion of
the aeronautical  transportation system  complex, the airframe
manufacturer; we also will hear from representatives of the Air
Transport Association  and the airport owners.  I  have  two ques-
tions I would like to ask, sir, if I might, in the capacity  of  the
chairman of the panel. First, would you venture a comparison of
the cost of the engineering? We asked you a question beforehand
about increased operational costs, and you mentioned you start
off  with  a piece of paper. Was there any significant increase in
the engineering design costs  because of the acoustic  and noise
considerations?
  Mr. CORNELL. I would say there was, and I don't have  a spot
number on the  back of my mind—this morning I said  to myself,
"Hmm, suppose somebody asks me how many dollars does it cost
for the engineering or the acoustic side of  the  CFG?" I don't
know the number, but I know it's large. I can give you some other
roundhouse numbers to sort of fill the hand out.
  We probably have tied up in the acoustics  business, all  in  one
group directly about 50 people, a roundhouse number, and across
the General Electric Co., because we operate as a company, the
number is probably more like 85—and I am  including people in
our research and development center in Schenectady who  do far
out work on engine noise  for us.  I  am including people  at  our
flight test center at Lancaster, Calif., at the Edwards  Air Force
Base, for example, so to give you the amount of these people, all of
whom are  not professional engineers, but perhaps one-half to
two-thirds, all  of whom are not doing, or did not do  in the de-
velopment cycle of the CFG, because we worked on other problems,
but just to  give  you an idea of the  number of people that are
wound up, this  is a partial out, that kind of thing.  In other  words,
this is not something  done by three guys in the backroom. We
really mean business, and it did take a substantial effort.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you, sir., if you could get some information
for the Agency with regard to types of people that were involved
in this, and their availability, I would also like to have that.
  Mr. CORNELL.  I  will very definitely get some information for
you.
  Dr. MEYER. The last question I would  like  to ask you, which I
know probably is in the minds of some  of the public  in  attend-
ance,  and  certainly  those  who  will be  appearing with us
tomorrow,  is:  If you could do this  sort of acoustical treatment
for this  engine, could  not some of this technology be  utilized in
some form of retrofit  for existing engines?
  Mr. CORNELL.  Well, I think that  is a perfectly fair question.
  Here we have what we think is very good acoustical  treatment,
for example, and sure enough, the people who are  looking at
possibilities of  retrofit—witness the NASA contracts with  Boeing
and Douglas and so forth,  use treatment that doesn't look unlike
this. This is our very special brand,  and  we are very proud of it,
and so forth,  but this general idea of high duty, heavy duty
acoustical treatment is all  coming along together, so this kind of
treatment would be perfectly  useful if a retrofit thing kind of
happened.  This treatment was designed specifically for this en-
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anything to do with it, we would change thicknesses and cavity
size and so forth and so on.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr.  Cornell, thank you for a  very illuminating
discussion. We appreciate it very  much. We are running a bit
behind schedule, and since the Environmental Protection Agency
is concerned with  human beings and their response to the en-
vironment, I think that we shall recess at this point, picking up
with our planned schedule at 1:15. We appreciate the audience
staying with us, and hope  you  will come back this  afternoon.
Thank you very much. This hearing is now in recess until 1:15.
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                    AFTERNOON SESSION
  Dr. MEYER.  Ladies and gentlemen, the second session of this
public hearing on noise and noise problems being conducted  by
the Environmental Protection Agency is hereby called to order.
At this  point I would like to continue  with that portion of our
hearing relating to  air transportation.
  You have heard from a major air carrier, an operator of an air
transport  system; you  have heard an  engine manufacturer's
views and his technical data. I would like to ask Mr. A. M. McPike,
of the McDonnell Douglas Corp., who is a major airframe manu-
facturer and contractor,  to come forward and  talk to us  about
what McDonnell Douglas and the aerospace industry is doing in
the field of noise control.  Glad to have you  with us, sir.
  Mr. McPiKE. Thank you. Dr.  Meyer.


  STATEMENT OF A. M. McPiKE, McDONNELL DOUGLAS CORP.
  Dr. Meyer,  panelists,  ladies  and gentlemen, let  me clarify,
first, that I  have—am I coming through on the microphone?
  Dr. MEYER. Would you  hold it a little  closer to you.
  Mr. McPiKE. This microphone, is it working?
  Dr. MEYER. Yes.
  Mr. McPiKE.  Okay. Let me clarify first that I have only ad-
dressed  myself in this case to the noise  of the DC-10 rather than
a  more  generalized picture of  the  noise  in terms of what
McDonnell Douglas  has done, though I will touch briefly on the
question of  retrofit toward  the end of the presentation.  I will
read a portion  of the presentation, and I also  have some slides
that I will use to make  the presentation  on the screen.
  Dr. MEYER. Very good, sir, and in any event,  your entire testi-
mony, of course, will appear in the record. If you deviate from it,
why, your remarks  will be transcribed directly, and your  entire
statement will be included.
  Mr. McPiKE.  Okay. Very fine. I appreciate the opportunity to
appear as a witness at this hearing and am especially pleased to
be able to  report to you that the McDonnell Douglas DC-10
represents a substantial step forward in terms  of improving the
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  Most of the information presented will be taken directly from
a  recent  paper  I  presented  to   the  12th  Anglo-American
Aeronautical Conference in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
  This paper is entitled "Community Noise Levels of the DC-10
Aircraft" and is submitted as supporting documentation for this
statement.
  Dr. MEYER. It shall so appear in the record, sir.*
  Mr. McPiKE. There is a popular belief that the noise levels of
jet  transport aircraft have been continually increasing as new
models have been introduced into airline service. This  is not true.
  While some of  the  later models  may  have somewhat higher
noise levels under some specific conditions they are also somewhat
quieter under other conditions and  there has  been  no general
trend to noisier aircraft.
  There has been an  increase in the magnitude of the airport
neighborhood noise problems but this is because there are more
aircraft and people  are exposed to  the noise more often rather
than  because of any increase in noise  levels of the  aircraft.
  The new  wide bodied jets will have a beneficial trend on the
airport neighborhood  noise  problem because they  carry more
passengers.
  This  means that  fewer flights will  be necessary  to  carry  a
given amount of passenger traffic. This does not necessarily mean
that the number of flights will decrease but it will at least decrease
relative to the number of flights necessary with the old aircraft
which carry fewer passengers.
  But  this  is  not  the major  benefit  to  the  airport  noise
environment that will  result from the introduction of  the DC-10.
  This  new aircraft incorporates several major design features
in the  engine  and in  its  installation  which result  in it being
substantially quieter than the aircraft in  the  current fleet.
  If I may have the first slide, please.
  [Showing of first  slide in series.]
  Perhaps a very  brief description of the DC-10 will help to put
the  noise   level  information  for  the  aircraft  into  proper
perspective.
  While there will be several  versions of the DC-10 at a later
date  this discussion  is limited  to  the  initial version  of  the
DC-10  which will enter domestic service in August.
  It is a wide bodied jet transport aircraft—by that  the fuselage
or body is wider across than the earlier models, and it will carry
between 220 and 345  passengers  at  ranges up  to approximately
3,500 nautical miles; it is a long-range domestic aircraft.
  It is powered by,  as earlier, General Electric CF6-6D engines
which are high bypass ratio turbofans in the 40,000 pound thrust
class.
  One engine  is  mounted  under  each wing and  the third is
mounted in  the vertical tail of the aircraft.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  I will turn first to the  FAA  noise  certification requirements
that  have  been discussed several times already this  morning.
These requirements  were not developed fully until after  the
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DC-10 design had been initiated; however, we were aware that
there would be such requirements,  and I think it's only fair to
say while they did not dictate the noise levels of the DC-10, that
they, in all fairness, had an influence in helping us and encour-
aging us to make the noise levels of the aircraft even quieter than
we might otherwise have done.
  The requirements are in three parts; there are three reference
locations.
  One, below the takeoff path, that we must meet a certain mini-
mum noise level at 3.5  nautical miles from brake release as the
aircraft climbs out after takeoff.
  Second, that we must meet a certain minimum noise level on the
sideline a  quarter nautical  mile to  the  side of the  runway
centerline after the aircraft lifts off after takeoff.
  And third, a point below the approach path when the aircraft
approaches on  a 3° glide  slope at a distance of 1 nautical mile
from threshold.
  This chart indicates the noise levels of the  DC-10 compared to
the certification requirement for takeoff at the 3.5-nautical mile
distance; the units as discussed earlier are the effective perceived
noise levels, EPNL, in units of EPNdB.
  The requirement varies as a function of the certified takeoff
gross weight of the airplane—the requirement varies from level
of 93 to 108, depending upon the takeoff gross weight.
   The DC-10 has  the maximum certified takeoff gross weight of
430,000 pounds establishing a requirement of  105.6  EPNdB.
   The level for the DC-10 as measured for our FAA certification
trials is slightly less than 100 EPNdB, substantially below the
requirement established by the FAA—and I might point out that
this number represents the  noise  level of the  aircraft  during
takeoff without making a noise abatement thrust reduction. There
is not a tremendous difference  in noise level  with and without a
thrust reduction, but we could probably again get another  two
EPNdB, with thrust reduction.
   Turning to the sideline point, a quarter nautical mile from the
runway centerline, again  the units are the level—in  this case
it varies from 102 to 108 EPNdB. The level  for the DC-10 is
96  compared to  a requirement of  107,  11  EPNdB below the
requirement  established by the government.
   I  also have included  another point on here—perhaps you can
see it if I  move this chair-for the DC-10 at 0.35 nautical mile
from the  brake release, or from brake release, I am  sorry, to
the  side of the runway centerline, the  reason being that some
aircraft are required at the 0.35 mile, if the DC-10 were compared
at that point, our level would be only the two EPNdB.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The most difficult point for us, from a design standpoint,  was
the  approach point. In this case the aircraft  is going over the
monitor at an altitude of only 370 feet. That is very close to the
airplane, and we had a tough time getting there. The unit varies
from 102 to 108 in terms of  required level; the required level
for the DC-10  is 107.
   I will apologize for the chart, and also the paper and documenta-
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finally cranked out of the computer, we ended up with a level of
106. You  can't win  them  all, but  we still came  out  below the
requirement, and we included another point here, and that is
that the regulation permits us to exceed the level  at one of the
three points, if we are well below the other, of the other points,
we  are well below as a consequence, we  really could have  had a
level of 109.
  So  looking at it from that way  we are  still 3  dB  below the
level that would be  permitted by the aircraft requirement. You
might  say we meet the requirement without  the use of any
tradeoffs.
  [Showing of next slide  in series.]
  We  will turn next  to comparison with  other  aircraft.
  Developing a fair comparison between the noise levels of two
different aircraft is a formidable task.
  There has been no universal agreement on the ground rules for
making such comparisons and many different approaches may be
used.
  In some cases one aircraft may be quieter at one location while
the other  aircraft is quieter at a second location.
  The noise at any  location is  a function of the noise generated
by  the aircraft propulsion system as it goes by and also of the
distance between the aircraft and  the location.
  Many airport neighbors experience the noise of aircraft at a
variety of distances from the aircraft depending on the flight
climb profiles and flight  patterns of the aircraft.
  One of the major difficulties in a fair comparison is in selecting
the appropriate aircraft  for comparison.
  The first  aircraft selected for  comparison with  the DC-10 is
the DC-8-61. This was done because these aircraft have approxi-
mately the same mission.
  The noise levels of the DC-8-61 are typical of  those of other
current transports  powered by four low-bypass-ratio turbofan
engines, and the data are approximately applicable to that whole
family of  aircraft.
  The comparison is made at the three  locations  used for  FAA
certification.
  Figure  5  shows the relative  noise levels of these two  aircraft
when both are operating at their maximum  design weights.
  Below the approach path the DC-10 is quieter than the current
aircraft by 11.5 EPNdB.
  On the sideline the  DC-10 is  14  EPNdB quieter than the
current aircraft, and below the takeoff path the DC-10  is 16 to 18
EPNdB quieter than the current aircraft depending- on  whether
or not a thrust reduction is made.
  The sideline comparison is  made at 0.25 nautical mile for
both aircraft even though  the FAR part 36 sideline distance for
four-engine  aircraft is 0.35 nautical mile.
  Both aircraft are also the same distance from the noise location
for the approach data.
  For the takeoff location the  DC-10 has  a greater climb capa-
bility, and the  16 to 18 EPNdB difference accrues  from  the fact
that the DC-10 is basically quieter and also  higher than the older
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  These differences are especially  significant in light of the fact
that the  DC-10 is  heavier, carries  a greater  payload,  and  has
engines which are rated at more than twice the  thrust of those on
the earlier jets.
  Using the rule of thumb that a reduction of 10 PNdB or EPNdB
constitutes a halving of the noisiness of  the noise,  these differ-
ences show that the DC-10 will  be less than half as  noisy and in
most cases significantly less than half as noisy as the earlier jets.
  For many people  it is difficult to appreciate just what all these
noise level differences mean without  hearing the aircraft.
  To some, their significance may be more  easily understood by an
examination of noise contours  or  lines of equal perceived noise
level.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This, presents contours of 100  PNdB during landing and takeoff
of the same aircraft compared  above.
  These contours show how far a noise level of 100 PNdB extends
into the airport neighborhood as the aircraft land and take off.
Inside the contour the level would go above 100  PNdB.
  Outside the contour the level would never be as  high as 100
PNdB.
  In the figure the  observer is looking down from above the air-
port,  and the aircraft is landing  from the left on a straight-in
approach.
  The aircraft takes off to the right and climbs  out with no turns.
These contours are  sometimes referred to as the noise footprints
of the aircraft.
  In terms of the area around the airport exposed  to a level of
100 PNdB, it is dramatically smaller for the DC-10 than for the
older jet.
  The level of 100 PNdB was not  selected as indicating any level
or  degree  of  acceptability. Similar  reductions  in  contour  size
would be achieved by the DC-10 compared to the earlier aircraft
if some other contour noise level  had been selected.
  The DC-10 will enter service  very soon and  the airport neigh-
bors  will be able to  judge for themselves how its  noise levels
compare with those of current aircraft.
  For this hearing  perhaps the best way to convey the  difference
in  noise levels between the  DC-10  and  current aircraft is by
playing magnetic tape recordings made  below the  landing and
takeoff paths.
  We have obtained these tape recordings by going into the field;
magnetic tape  recordings were  made beyond the end of airport
runways for takeoffs and landings of the DC-8, the Boeing 727,
and DC-10. The recordings have  all  been carefully  calibrated so
you will hear the proper relative level of  the different aircraft.
   Unfortunately, the equipment we have  is not powerful enough
to fill this large room with the levels which are  equal to those that
are actually experienced in a community.
   I think  that  you can extract that, though, the  difference in
level  is still appropriate, as you  will hear on  this  tape.
   The first tape will make a comparison  between the DC-8 and
the DC/10, first below the approach path—in this  case, typical
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tape will be below the takeoff path at 31/2 nautical miles—basi-
cally the same  information we saw on the chart a little earlier.
  With that background, now, I will  play the tape. I will point
to the aircraft  you are hearing in each instant in time  to keep
you on board as  to which one you are hearing.
  TAPE RECORDING. The sounds you are about to hear were recorded directly
beneath a McDonnell Douglas DC-8 and  DC-10 during a landing approach.
  Both  aircraft are approximately 30 percent  of takeoff thrust, and at an
altitude of 400 feet.
  Now the comparison; the DC-8, followed by the DC-10.
  [Flyover noise demonstration.]
  TAPE RECORDING:  Next  we will compare the maximum noise level portion
of the normal landing approach flyovers we have just heard: [Flyover noise
demonstration.]
  TAPE RECORDING. Next we will compare DC-8 and DC-10 takeoff noise.
  This comparison represents the noise that would  be heard by the airport
neighbors at a location 3.5 nautical miles from brake release.
  The aircraft are  on a  maximum  takeoff gross weight profile; these op-
erating conditions  correspond approximately to the FAA certification require-
ments for takeoff noise.  Now,  the comparison; first the DC-8, and then
the  DC-10: [Flyover noise demonstration.]
  TAPE RECORDING. Now,  we will compare the maximum noise level portion
of the takeoff flyovers we have just heard.
  First the DC-8,  and then the DC-10: [Flyover noise demonstration.]

  Mr. McPiKE. While the DC-10 will be operating alongside the
current four-engine jets at many airports it will also be servicing
smaller airports where these large  aircraft do  not operate.
  The question then  becomes  how do  the  sound levels  of  the
DC-10 compare with  those of the DC-9, the 727 and  the 737.
  Details of the differences between the DC-10  and these two- and
three-engine  transports  are   included   in  the  documentation
submitted with this testimony.
  These data show that the DC-10 is substantially quieter than
the current aircraft. To provide an example a  second demonstra-
tion tape compares the noise  levels of the  DC-10  with those of
the 727-100.
  The noise of  this aircraft is familiar to most airport neighbors
and has  frequently been  used  as a  reference  noise for those
airports which  are not serviced by  the large jets.
  The example  is illustrated in figure 7  which compares  the two
aircraft on a typical mission basis.  The example was prepared as
part of  a study  for  LaGuardia Airport in New  York and  the
mission  was a New York to Chicago flight of  675 nautical miles
distance.
  The DC-10  is  5 to 6 PNdB  quieter  than the  current three-
engine fan  jet below the approach path and  7 to 8 PNdB quieter
below the takeoff path.
  The comparison location for takeoff is 3.0 statute miles from
brake  release.  On  the demonstration tape  this  distance is  2.9
statute miles which is the distance to a noise monitor location
for one of the runways at LaGuardia Airport.
  Now I'll  play the tape recording.
  TAPE RECORDING. The flyover noise of the DC-10 during landing and takeoff
will be compared with that of the Boeing 727.
  The first comparison is on landing approach; both aircraft are at approxi-
mately 45 percent of takeoff thrust and at an altitude of 300 feet.
  Now  the comparison;  the 727,  followed by the  DC-10: [Flyover  noise
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  TAPE RECORDING. Now, let's compare the maximum noise level portions of
these flyovers:  [Flyover noise demonstration.]
  TAPE RECORDING. Next we will compare 727 and DC-10 takeoff noise.
  This comparison represents the noise that would be heard by the airport
neighbors at a location 2.9 statute  miles from brake release. Both aircraft
are at 100 percent of takeoff thrust.
  Now  the comparison,  the  727 followed by the DC-10:  [Flyover  noise
demonstration.]
  TAPE RECORDING. Now, let's compare the maximum noise level portion of
these flyovers :  [Flyover noise demonstration.]
  Mr. McPlKE. If we could have the lights again, I think that's
all the  slides I brought.
  As you  can  tell  from these tapes  the noise  levels of  the
DC-10   represent a very  substantial  improvement  compared
to the earlier aircraft.
  We  have  conducted actual demonstrations  with the DC-10
on quite a  number  of occasions and  almost without exception
people  have indicated that the  reduced  noise  of the aircraft
is even  more impressive  than indicated on the tape recordings.
  The  low  noise  levels  of the  DC-10  raise  the very  obvious
question—"Can this  technology be applied to  the current  air-
craft to make  them as quiet as the DC-10?"
  The  following comments are  included in anticipation  of  that
question:
  First, the technology  is  not currently  available  to  achieve
such low  levels  by  modifying  the existing low  bypass  ratio
turbofan engines  which  power  most of the current fleet.
  While technology is available to reduce the  turbomachinery
noise of these engines by nacelle treatments, no practical methods
have been  demonstrated to  achieve meaningful  reductions in
the  jet  exhaust noise  of these  engines.
  Further research efforts might  develop such technology  but
it is not available now.
  Second,  the  current fleet could  be  made much  quieter  with
a new  high  bypass  ratio turbofan engine using the  same tech-
nology  as  in  the DC-10.  However, there is  no  such engine
available in the  thrust class  that would be necessary  for the
current aircraft.
  In fact,  no such  engine is being  developed at  the  present
time.  Even  if  development  of  such an  engine  were to  start
immediately it would be years before it could be available.
  It might  well  be  that if  such an engine were developed it
would  not  be practical  to install  it on the current aircraft,
many of which  would be  close to  retirement  by  the time the
engine became available.
  The  development  of such  an  engine  would,  of course, be-
cause it would be  superior  to  current engines, encourage the
development of new aircraft  which could  use  it.
  Thus, efforts  to  develop new jet exhaust  noise suppression
techniques and to develop  a new technology, high bypass  ratio
turbofan engine  in  the 20,000-pound-thrust  class  should  be
encouraged  for  the eventual  alleviation of the  airport  noise
problem.
  While the developments applied  to  achieve low noise  levels
for  the DC-10 cannot be readily applied to the aircraft in the
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nificant impact on the airport neighborhood noise problem.
  It will finally demonstrate to  the airport neighbor that  prog-
ress is being made and  that he can look forward to lower noise
levels as more DC-10's enter service and the older noisier aircraft
are gradually phased out.
  This concludes my testimony,  and I thank you for the oppor-
tunity to present it.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you very much,  Mr. McPike, for that ex-
tremely  useful  demonstration,  along with  your  presentation.
Panel?
  Professor  KERREBROCK.  Just  one  question.  You  know,  the
philosophy that was espoused  in FAR  36  was that once you had
established noise regulations which were technologically feasible
and economically  practical  and so  on,  and  we seem to have
the happy circumstance here  now that the DC-10  indeed  does
better than it's required  to by FAR 36. Does this mean that it's too
conservative a regulation?
  Mr. McPlKE.  I  would answer that  this way: we barely made
it,  and for a long  time we were pretty nervous  about  the
approach  point.
  Professor KERREBROCK. But now you are very happy?
  Mr. McPlKE.  We  are pleased that we did make it, yes. It
would appear that, yes, the level for this aircraft,  or the re-
quirement for this aircraft could  have  been  lower,  but  hind-
sight is often better than  foresight,  and we were  not  at all
that confident that we  could have levels  which are this low at
the time FAR 36 came into being.
  Also  remember  this is a  specific type of aircraft.  There are,
will be other types  of  aircraft which will  not necessarily be
able to  meet levels which are  quite this low,  and remember that
the requirement had to be such that it would encompass all of
the  aircraft  types, so  perhaps  it was in some respects  a bit
conservative—not  in all respects. Did  I answer your question?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Well, not  quite, because this  is  the
long-range version of the DC-10,  as I understand it.
  Mr. McPlKE.  This is a  long-range  domestic version of  the
DC-10.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Does  Douglas—does that  mean  that
Douglas has  plans for increasing the  gross weight, perhaps
using up  this cushion?
  Mr. McPlKE. No; we will have future versions of the DC-10.
In  fact, we have, very  definitely we  are  building in the  future
a later  version of the DC-10 which  will use  the same general
engine  and will have  the same or greater sound  suppression
built into them, and  will have  the same general noise charac-
teristics, but they are—they do  have higher gross  weights,  and
have slightly  different requirements and  slightly different noise
levels.
  We are not going back to the noise levels  of the old aircraft,
but  there  will  be some plus or minus  variations  associated
with it.
  Professor PLACER.  Mr. McPike,  I  don't think  it's useful at
this date in  time to  start trying to fix  the  blame or recrimi-
nations about why we  have the problem we  do, but it  might
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are on this problem.
  We heard this morning from the engine manufacturer who
indicated that  they have been able to,  and deal with this prob-
lem, and apparently have been working on it  for a good  while,
and  apparently  had  military  applications  back prior  to  the
middle 1950's, as I understand it, and yet here we are in 1971
first coming out with an  aircraft  that  really addresses itself
to this problem.
  Now, what—where is the problem? Where is  the responsibility,
not in terms of recrimination, again, but in terms of dealing with
this problem in the future at State and Federal  levels.
  To whom do we turn  to find out  where the responsibility is
between the engine  manufacturer, the airframe-aircraft manu-
facturer, the operator—who is it who  is  in the position to say,
"I want a quieter aircraft"? Who bears that?
  Mr. McPiKE. Well, sir, I believe we all bear that responsibility.
The government must make a choice. It must establish  either
a requirement that we can meet or  a requirement that we can't
meet.
  Professor PLACER. Well, why do we have  to depend on the
government?  Isn't there some  responsibility  in the hands of
the manufacturers and the airframe  manufacturers to deal with
a  major social  problem  without waiting for  "big brother" to
come  and breathe down his  back?
  Mr.  McPiKE.  My comment there  would be that there is no
question from my level straight through  to the very top of our
company and  our corporation, the attitude that if we can come
out with a product  that is quieter than our  competition, there
is no  doubt whatsoever  that  we can outsell our competition
hands  down.

  In fact, I will  go the other way: We  know that if we come out
with a product that is not as quiet as our competition, that we can-
not sell that product, so what you are asking, believe me, is built
into the industry, without question.

   Professor PLACER. It has not apparently been built in  in the
prior years, witness the DC-8 and other noisy  demonstrations,
but you are saying it now seems to  be emerging;  is that really
the point?
   Mr.  McPiKE.  I can't really  agree with  you  on the first state-
ment, sir, because the DC-8 utilized technology we had  at the
time;  the  DC-9 utilized the  technology  we  had  at the  time,
and now the  DC-10 has utilized the technology we had  at the
time.
   Professor PLACER. Except  that you asked  for  that  technol-
ogy, did you not—didn't you  ask for  improvement in the state
of the art when you said to  GE, "build me an engine that will
be  quieter"?
   Mr.  McPiKE.  Yes, sir; believe me, we  asked for that before,
except I guess  the basic problem is there was no new  engine
available at the  time the DC-8 came  out, the only thing avail-
able was a military engine, some noise improvements; Pratt and
Whitney developed a so-called hush kit  for that  engine which
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  Again, that was the available state  of  the  art  at  the  time,
and  was cranked  into that engine.
  Professor PLACER. Can your company accelerate  the work of
the engine  manufacturers by asking for more all the time?
  Mr.  McPiKE.  I  think  we have  ground them up to  the wall
probably about  as—in  as strenuous  a manner  as   we can.
We,  of course,  must consider what  is  possible, and  we  don't
want to demand something of  them that we  know they can't
accomplish, but believe  me, anything  that  we feel that they
can  accomplish, we certainly  will  demand  and  require  from
them. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you very much,  sir.  That  was  a  most
useful  dialog between you  and the panel,  which  reflects both
the  interest  and  need.  At this time,  having heard  from the
engine manufacturer, from the airline operator, from the air-
frame, and aerospace industry, I would like to  ask a representa-
tive  of the  Air Transport Association of America, the  synthesis
of the various  elements  of the air transport community, Mr.
William  Becker, if  he  would please  come  forward  and give
us a presentation as  to how  the industry,  as a  group,  looks
at the  noise problem. Glad to  see you, Mr. Becker,  and we look
forward to your testimony.

             STATEMENT OF WILLIAM B. BECKER,
                AIR TRANSPORT ASSOCIATION
  Mr. BECKER. I am William B. Becker, assistant vice  president
of operations of the  Air Transport  Association, and   members
of our  organization  are the  scheduled  certificated  airlines—
substantially all of them—not all of them.  I  have  a  summary
of my paper here which  I will read, and then go into some more
detail.
  The airline industry,  in  the  act  of providing  safe,  depend-
able, and fast air transportation also creates public annoyance in
the form of noise.
  Our industry  recognizes our obligation to  the community and
for many  years has  devoted time,  talent, and money, to the
reduction of  noise.
  The results vary from impressive to spotty. The  reasons for
this  variation helps to define the nature of the problem: First,
we   are  dealing with  a  high degree  of  technological  com-
plexity; second,  there  is a division of responsibility that some-
times stalls meaningful  solutions; and  third, we are,  at times,
caught  in  the middle  of a clash  between opposing community
and  public needs:—often the need for environmental quality  is
expressed in terms that would  effectively preclude our meeting
the other public need—for safe, dependable air transportation.
  A brief  look  at the problem  of aircraft noise will   illustrate
these points: Let  me say at the outset  that this is not simply
a matter of reducing noise, but rather  of reducing the annoy-
ance to the community  created by  aircraft noise.
  We are  not dealing just  with the  amount of noise  produced
by  jet  engines,  but  rather  with  the  effect produced by  this
noise on people living near airports  and the  flightpaths that
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  So  we  must work on changing  the character of the  noise
as well as the quantity.  Moreover,  as studies  by the National
Aeronautics and  Space Administration have  shown, reaction to
the same noise exposure  varies  with individuals  and in  fact
communities.
  It is this subjective element that  complicates efforts to deter-
mine  whether a given noise reduction program  will in fact have
any measurable effect on reducing noise annoyance.
  Three  approaches  to  jet  noise abatement have been  recog-
nized: (1) Reduction of noise at  the source—viz, design  of the
aircraft  and engine for quietness;  (2) adjustments  in method
of  flight—e.g.,  reduced-power  takeoffs;  (3)  compatible land
use around airports.
  It is evident that governmental  noise-control measures dealing
with engine-airframe design, or with methods of flight,  must be by
the National Government, which  is  charged  with the exclusive
regulation of air safety, flight control, and the use of airspace. The
courts have so held.
  It is equally apparent that land  use measure for  noise  alle-
viation can be carried out only by State and local governments,
or communities,  which alone possess  the requisite legal  author-
ity—possibly  aided  by  financial  assistance  from  the  Federal
Government.
  These  conclusions  are  implicit in  the  very  nature  of our
national  air transport system.
  From  the beginning  Congress  has recognized the necessity
of unified  national control over the navigable  airspace and the
regulation of  flight.
  In  the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, Congress gave the FA A
"unquestionable authority for all  aspects  of airspace  manage-
ment" as well  as  "plenary authority  in  the  matter  of  air
traffic rules"—S. Rept. No. 1811,  85th Congress, second session,
1958.
  In  1968, Congress amended  the  Aviation Act expressly "to
require  aircraft  noise  abatement regulations"  by the  FAA—
82  Stat. 395, Public Law 90-41, July  21, 1968.
  In  fact, Federal regulation of air traffic  and the navigable
airspace has been virtually pervasive. These actions by Congress
have  been sustained  as  a lawful  exercise of Federal power by
both  State  and Federal  courts.
  It  is a  tribute to the foresight  of Congress  in establishing
unified national  control  of  air traffic, and  to the  manner  in
which the FAA  has  carried out its mandate of  exclusive regu-
lation of air flight,  that  the safety record  of  air carriers  in
the United States is the best of  any mode of public transpor-
tation—by  a  wide margin—culminating in the year  1970 with
no  persons killed, for the first  time in a  calendar year; do-
mestically there were two persons  killed—this is U.S. air carriers,
in an air accident outside of the domestic part of the United States.
That  is the best record we have ever  had, and you can't beat it. We
would like to make it better, because we have close calls,  in addition.
   In  fact, only by reason of such a safety record has it been
possible  for  the air transport  system to  have  achieved  its
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  It is this growth  of  air transportation which has  resulted
in the  expansion of  industry,  and the  creation  of  whole  new
industries.
  It is  unfortunate that  part of the price for this extraordinary
progress  has been annoyance  to airport neighbors from  the
noise of jet aircraft.
  The problem  of  aircraft noise is not to  be  minimized. At the
same time, as expressed by former  Secretary of Transportation
Boyd  in  the  congressional  aircraft noise  hearings  in  1968,
"It would be well to keep  this whole business in some perspective."
  The  FAA,  for example,  in its Report  on  The Aircraft/Air-
port Noise Problem and Federal Government Policy, points out
that:
  The airport noise problem has continued to grow during the last decade
not only because jet aircraft  has been and  still are inherently noisy, but also
because larger numbers of people choose to live and work near airports where
they are subject to noise.

  Judge John F. Dooling,  Jr., in his opinion  in 1967 in Ameri-
can  Airlines,  Inc.,  et  al. v. Town of Hempstead,  et  al. denying
enforcement of  the Hempstead,  N.Y.,  local  ordinance  against
jet noise, has made a similar observation:
  The dimensions of the noise problem cannot be minimized. It is, however, one
of the manifold  of environmental problems that  press  on a society in which
the pace of  industrialization  steadily outstrips the capacity to deal with its
modification  of the total environment of urban and suburban existence.
  Perhaps the aircraft noise problem differs in that it appears  to be un-
avoidable, in the present state of technical development, and not a  conse-
quence of the failure to  take feasible precautions or to provide practical
remedies.

  Let's look at  operating  procedures—before I  go  into  that,
might I indicate that at O'Hare  here in 1970, for example, we
are  talking about  the economic aspects  and  need for  aviation
versus  the noise annoyance which  is there.
  In  1970 there were 30 million passengers  who went in and
out of O'Hare Airport. During that  same year there  were three-
quarters of a million tons of mail and  cargo that went in and
out of  O'Hare Airport.
  About and  during that same year there were nearly 600,000
total  operations—that   is,   arriving  airplanes  and  departing
airplanes at O'Hare Airport.
  Now, let's  go to operating procedures,  takeoff, and landing
profiles.
  The  airlines  have  expended  vast amounts of  money  and
effort in seeking noise remedies. As early as  1952,  and before
the advent of jets, the airlines  and their pilots developed  spe-
cial takeoff and landing procedures for noise abatement. This dealt
with the piston airplanes, the DC-3's right on up  to the DC-7's.
  These procedures were costly  and  difficult, but  they produced
significant reductions in noise exposure.
  Before the  jet transport  was  introduced in daily service, the
airlines realized that noise problems would increase in scope and
magnitude as time went on.
  Thus, at that time, takeoff and landing  noise abatement  pro-
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ually  been reviewed to provide the best results  commensurate
with safety of operation.
  In doing  so  the airlines have accepted certain alterations to
the optimum  safe takeoff procedures for the  sole purpose of
reducing noise on the  ground. Takeoff profiles  have  been al-
tered  by:  (1) Delayed flat  retraction and use  of  minimum
speeds,  (2) changes in power management—early  reductions,
(3) making turns at relatively low  speeds and altitudes in ini-
tial climbouts, (4)  reduced overall climbout  speed schedules,
(5)  reduced  rates  of  climb,  and  (6)  time  spent  in initial
climbout configuration has been extended.
  The airlines  are looking at—and you will probably hear from
Paul  Soderland  of  some  of the  things  that  Northwest  has
looked  at,  and  others  have—North  Central  has  looked  at
some  procedures; American is looking at some procedures,  and
Delta has looked  at  some procedures to try them out.
  The first thing,   though, is safety;  we  cannot compromise
safety.  And there  are  some  differences of  opinion   between
competent piloting personnel of the scheduled airlines as to what
is safe  and what is not  safe, and  what is  a good profile  and
what is a bad  profile.
  This is good. If we all did  it the same way, it would be like
Russia,  and it might be all  wrong.
  Any further departures from the most desirable takeoff tech-
niques  would, in the  opinion of  the airlines, constitute  an
unacceptable  compromise  with   safety  in   today's  transport
aircraft.
  With  regard to noise abatement approach  procedures, the air-
lines  have  agreed under VFR  weather condition to  approach
the airports at 1,500 feet or above as long as possible before
descending  to  land.
  For IFR operations, the standard  glidepath which  the  U.S.
airlines and Government agencies  have agreed upon  over the
years, as the  best  from a safety  and operational standpoint,
has been a 2.5° approach angle to touchdown.
  This  accommodates  the  characteristics   of  present-day jet
transport aircraft with respect to  the  requirements  of an ac-
ceptable safe  rate  of descent, early  establishment of  the  air-
plane in  a "steady  state," and  assurance of  spun-up engines
to provide  go-around  or missed-approach capability.
  Glide slopes of up to 3° have  been accepted by the airlines
in  conjunction with the  lowest  permissible  landing  weather
minimums for noise abatement purposes.
  At the moment I think of some  300—I am not sure of the
number—312  ILS glideslopes.  I think there are  93  at 3°.  The
rest of them run—and some, one is over 3°, the rest of  them run
between 2.5° and on up to 3°.
  The  second area we  are,  we  have operating procedures,
we use preferential  runways.
  Preferential runways have been  used since the early fifties
in an effort to reduce the number of  airline  flights  operating
over  populated areas.
  Normally transport  aircraft,  for  safety purposes,  use the
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ture over concentrated populated areas, the airlines are accepting
"preferred runways" with crosswinds up to 15 knots and 90°
to the runway heading.
  As has been pointed out earlier regarding takeoff and landing
noise abatement procedures, safety margins have been reduced
somewhat through  the acceptance  of  less than optimum  proce-
dures.
  Compliance at the  same time with preferential runway re-
quirements can further decrease these safety margins.
  In  addition, the  use of preferential runway system reduces
airport capacity, frequently to the extent  of  imposing  undue
hardships upon the persons  using the airline  service and thus
the communities served, and severe economic penalty upon the
air carriers.
  For example, at  Kennedy in New York it is estimated that
it  reduces the capacity of that airport by  50  percent. In  some
cases,  depending on the wind, it's as  high as  75  percent.
  Then, the  second,  the  third way is having  air tracks over
the sea, or the rivers, or  over  unpopulated  areas, but when you
put it over, or get  it away from the populated  area to this un-
populated area you find there are more  people there than you
thought, because you get  the noise complaints  from that  area.
  In  addition, special ground  tracks  for landing and takeoffs,
routing the  aircraft  over water  courses,  the sea,  and  away
from residential and other noncompatible land  areas have been
established.
  Of  necessity,  these must  vary from  airport to  airport.
Efforts are continuing on such a basis, in cooperation with the
FAA,  to  find  additional  means  of safely  landing  and  taking
off without causing as much noise  annoyance.
  One thing  is clear.  While  special flight procedures have pro-
duced  significant noise reductions, we are  about  at the end of
that  particular road  at  many major airports,  at  least  with
existing aircraft.
  Airlines efforts at noise alleviation have covered other fronts.
The  industry expended more  than $50  million  in  developing
noise suppressors  for the early  jet engine.
  By 1965 the airlines had invested $150 million in putting these
noise suppressors on their jet fleets. Over  and  above this $200
million installation cost,  the  expense of operating  the engine
noise suppressors  amounted  to a  substantial sum per  aircraft
annually; their estimates have been it's about $10,000 an airplane
annually.
  But there  should be no illusions as to the prospects of  any
dramatic solutions from any new device, technology, or procedure.
  True, each  new  jet aircraft which has  been  introduced has
been  quieter than  its predecessors—and I  might say, quieter
than  the piston engines;  a lot of  us  have forgotten the  DC-7
and  the Constellation, but those  airplanes,  when  they took off,
made a footprint  such as Mickey had, much larger than  100
PNdB, the footprint would be  larger than it was  for the  DC-8
because they  were  slow  climbing, and it  took so long  to get
there,  and  a  lot of people forget that.
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smaller,  the  707 had a  smaller  footprint than  a DC-7.  The
fan jets  came along  with a smaller  footprint,  and we had the
JT8  powered  airplanes with  727 dB, the 727-2  engine,  three-
engine airplane  which  automatically  make them  smaller as
far as footprints are concerned,  and we now have  the GE engine
on the DC-10, again  quieter.
  You will also  have an engine on the L-1011  which will make
that  on  the order  of the same quietness of the  DC-10. As I
understand it, it's  quieter in some respects  in  some measuring
points, and  not  as quiet  at other measuring points.  This may
tend to answer  your question as to  why can't we rewrite the
rules and say let's go back to the DC-10; what  if you hit the
DC-10, you would knock out the L-1011; if you met the L-1011,
you  owuld knock out the DC-10,  it's that shaky.
  However, there  are clear limits  on  the prospective noise
alleviation from engine and airframe design and hardware.
  Former Secretary of Transportation Alan  Boyd, in the Senate
noise hearings in 1968 stated:
  Let me  make it very clear that the present technology which  we have to
produce a  quieter engine, and  that which we believe will be available within
the short-range future, will not solve the aircraft noise problem.

  To this, former Secretary Boyd added, significantly,  "actually,
as you point out, there is  no such  thing as an answer to aircraft
noise."
  What  Boyd undoubtedly meant is that, whatever degree of
engine noise reduction might be achieved, some complaints  will
still  exist.
  Exhaustive  studies  in the United States and abroad have shown
that, no  matter  how  much  the  noise  level is  reduced, there  will
remain an implacable "hard core of complainants," amounting to
approximately one-third  of the population near  an airport.
  Now, there  has been much work done on the—some work  that
has  been referred to, the  NASA quiet engine, and for those  who
are not aware, I want to make it abundantly plain that the NASA
so-called quiet engine as it comes off, and is finally contracted, is
what I call a  steel and concrete engine. You can't put it on an
airplane, it's a research tool, and they will bring the fan noise—
it's aimed at the fan noise—they will  bring the fan noise down to
90 PNdB, but the engine noise  will be at 100 PNdB because the
jet core noise—this is the  report from NASA, the jet core noise is
still  there. They haven't  been working on that, and this is the
kind of area where we think, and I  think others  have indicated
a lot more work needs to be done on  the jet core  noise if we are
really  going  to make  a  substantial  reduction  that will be
acceptable, or meaningful to the airport neighbor.
  The limitations  on prospective noise alleviation from engine
developments, particularly in the  case of existing aircraft, were
acknowledged in the Langley,  Va.,  briefings by  NASA on  the
status of its research projects  on jet  noise  alleviation through
engine nacelle modification and treatment.
   Moreover, it  is  apparent that  much  of  the  Federal Govern-
ment's engine noise research  now being performed is essentially
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  For example, the publicized NASA quiet engine project aims to
produce by 1975, at a cost of $50 million, a so-called quiet engine.
  However, even if achieved, the quiet engine is calculated to have
a service life  of only 50  hours. To  develop such  an engine for
actual production  and use would require a  much  longer service
life.
  There is not even an estimate as to how long it would take to
develop  such a working engine, even if  it could be made.
  The objective of compatible land use is, of course, to keep at a
minimum the number of residences and  places of public assembly
that are close to  the touchdown and  takeoff points at public
airports.
  In contrast  to proposals such as  local maximum noise regula-
tions, which the courts  have rejected because  of their inevitable
interference with exclusive Federal flight control, compatible land
use measures are primarily the concern  of local, community, and
State governments.
  In considering compatible land use, and indeed the very origins
of the noise problem, it must be borne in mind that most existing
major airports were located many years ago, either by the com-
munity or by the military during World War II—and subsequently
converted to civilian use at the request of the locality.
  A 1966 study found that 57 of the  airports serving the  61
largest cities in the United States were established prior to 1950,
and that there was naturally great reluctance to abandon them,
even though they  had frequently become almost surrounded  by
urban development.
  Since the cities  want air service,  and the  carriers must use
the city's airport wherever it is found, the circumstance of where
an existing airport was originally located is really at the heart of
the noise problem.
  This is true in  Los Angeles; it's true in  J.F.K. I used to  fly
around—Professor Plager has heard  me talk on this before, out
of Floyd Bennett, which they are closing up now, and want to put
some  houses on, and at the time during the war there  was  no
J.F.K.
  It was Jamaica Bay, and at the time they  were dredging it out
of the bottom of the bay and  making  runways, and making a
place to build an airport, there weren't any houses around except
for a  few such places as Hempstead, Cedarhurst, within miles of
that place. Right now they are right up against the fence in many
cases.
  The  location  of the  airport  also   bears  heavily  on  the
practicability of compatible land use measures.
  Obviously, the  practical and legal problem is quite  different
when one is dealing with an approach zone that has already built
up, on the one hand, and an approach zone that consists of vacant
or industrial land  on the other.
  In the former case, the  cost of redeveloping a whole area, plus
the desire of people to  remain where they  are—and experience
indicates that in spite of  the noise, many people do not want to
move—make it difficult to accomplish compatible land use, either
by eminent domain or by zoning.
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solely from the  viewpoint of  existing built-up airports, such as
LaGuardia  or  J.F.K.  or  Los Angeles International  or other
established airports.
  For the future as well  as the present it is crucial to preserve
open spaces, and for emerging airports—of which there are going
to be many—to  locate them properly from the outset,  with  ade-
quate, permanent noise-buffer zones in addition to the obstruction
clear zones needed for safety purposes.
  It is  worth noting, in this connection, that contrary  to the
oftheard argument that airport noise has depressed the  market
value of particular parcels near some airports, the conclusions of
actual studies are that such property values are far more likely to
increase in value overall.
  In fact, numerous local land use studies indicate that  overall,
taking  all  property uses  into account, property values in a jet
airport's neighborhood tend to follow the same trends as other
property in the area not influenced by the airport.
  Certainly it is undeniable that land developers consistently seek
land near airports, and it follows inexorably that a new airport
will inspire extensive  construction around it.
  There is much work to be done to understand the noise gener-
ated from jet engines; i.e., the sources, propagation, attenuation,
effects on people,  et cetera.
  The aircraft and the engine manufacturers spend between $15
and $20 million each  year in an  effort to find answers to these
noise problems.
  The Federal Government spends an equal amount.  Neverthe-
less, we have much, much more  to learn before  we  can expect
to provide airport neighbors with  meaningful relief from aircraft
noise.
  The airline industry has  within the past few  months made
strong pleas to the administration and Congress to undertake the
necessary research and development regarding aircraft noise.
  A summary of the industry's  recommendations  are included
here for your record.
  In conclusion, the industry will continue to do  what it can in
seeking a breakthrough in reduction  in noise at the source.
  The airlines and their  pilots, as in  the past, cooperating  with
Federal and local agencies will develop and follow  flight  routes,
climbout  or  descent paths,  and  operating  procedures  that
minimize  the exposure of people  to the noise of jet aircraft.
  However,  it does not help  reduce noise annoyance to  develop
and prescribe preferred  noise abatement routes over least popu-
lated areas if there is no way of  preventing residential building
in these very areas where the noise is supposed to be concentrated.
  Therefore, we ask the  communities  affected by aircraft noise
to  recognize and  accept  their responsibility for  requiring  land
use compatible  with noise exposure under flight  paths used for
landing and takeoff from  nearby airports.
  Meaningful reduction  in aircraft noise  annoyance  cannot be
achieved without this  local community action.
   And, finally, a  much stronger Federal aircraft noise research
and development program needs the support of all of us interested
in  aircraft noise abatement.

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  Dr. MEYER. That attachment will be included with the record.*
Thank  you very much  for one  of  your  usual  stimulating
discussions, Mr. Becker. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. One suggestion that has been made,
and, in fact, experimentally implemented elsewhere in the United
States is that a tax be imposed on aircraft noise. How would you
view this, that a charge be levied against the airline, in accordance
with the amount of noise impact it imposes on the  community?
  Mr. BECKER. Well, that would be the same  as increasing the
fares, really, because if the airlines were taxed, they would pass
it onto the passenger—they would have to, because otherwise they
would be broke. They are going broke now. That is one way to do
it, but I think it's wrong,  completely,  if you do it only that  way.
  Let's  say we have no airline  service  into California if their
existing law goes into effect and becomes law in December, and is
enforced, within 2 years, it would be—1973  it would be enforced
on  the 80  CNEL, and  as Frank Kolk  indicated  this morning,
according to the Los Angeles port—I  will get to your question in
a minute	
  Professor KERREBROCK.  OK.
  Mr. BECKER.  The port authority, Los  Angeles Port  Authority
people have reduced—would  have to  reduce the operations into
the airport by 80 percent.
  We have made another study which comes  about  like  that,
it's a paper study, and we made a presentation to  some  of the
legislators  in California pointing this up within the last month,
but let's assume  that goes into  effect  and  airports just aren't
available.
  In case of earthquake, pestilence, fire, what have you, I think
people want  to have aviation because   they can  get  to  things
quicker  than any other means,  relief,  and  I think the general
public, other than the  passenger or the person who pays the
freight for cargo, have an interest in  aviation being in existence,
so it  shouldn't  all fall on the passenger or on the person who
pays the freight  for the cargo, or for the mail.
  There is an area—I don't  know  how  much a percentage that
should be picked  up by the general taxpayer—I tried to answer
your question.  I  may have—I may have—it may have escaped
me, but that is  the best I  can do.
  Professor KERREBROCK. No—well,  yes; it's a partial answer,
but I guess you put it more directly, I would ask how you would
use such a tax on noise,  perhaps  as an alternative to Federal
regulations which set absolute limits.
  Mr. BECKER.  Well,'see,  the Federal Government,  I don't think
it makes a  lot of difference. The Federal Government is responsi-
ble for the airlines' economic  well  being; through  the  Civil
Aeronautics Board regulations they have to raise or lower their
tariffs, or tell whether you have  competition or don't have  com-
petition on the  routes. The Federal Government has that control
today. We are a fully regulated industry.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Well, it would give more flexibility for
entrepreneurship, let's say.
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  Mr. BECKER. On behalf of the airlines.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Mr. BECKER. Well, we have to buy the equipment the manufac-
turers make. We ask that it be as quiet as it can be. In fact, we
have asked for some noise limits to be a little quieter than they
are, but you have the economic reasonableness and the technical
feasibility that tie in with this.
  Mr. MARTIN. Bill, in the highway area there is a tax on gasoline
that is used for developing roads.
  Mr. BECKER. Right.
  Mr. MARTIN. What would you think the feeling would be along
the lines of possible revenue coming by the use of the passenger
via a tax to develop feature  airports  and compatible—take  into
account all  the new ideas, with zoning and everything else?
  Mr. BECKER. Well,  to a big degree that is in being, Hank, be-
cause we have this trust fund business which is $250 million a
year supposed to go toward airport development.
  The  question is,  I  guess,  would  this go into  compitable  land
usage. I don't—I think the law would have to be changed before
it was permissible.
  Dr. MEYER. We will take note of the thought, which is a  very
interesting  one, of whether there  should  be  some  way of
approaching the problems of  research that you mentioned  in a
systematic  order.
  Mr. BECKER. Right.
  Dr. MEYER.  Looking at the air transportation system, especially
the ground use	
  Mr.  BECKER. Right.
  Dr. MEYER.  People flying on the airplane have to get to the
airport,  and sometimes from many miles away, and they  are
riding automobiles, so we have to  look  at this  in  a systematic
manner. It seems the proposal here is  one that we must look at,
it has been brought up at the hearings, and I can assure you  that
in our studies of this problem we  will take a  closer look at it.
It's a very good suggestion.
  Mr. BECKER. Dr. Meyer, on the R. & D. research,  the existing
same  trust  fund,  as  far as  aviation  concerns  makes available
x million dollars-I  think it's $50 million—it can be higher—for
aeronautical research. This  can include, and does include noise
research, of last year the FAA had about $3.5 million, which is
really peanuts. We  are nickel and dime in this research business,
and the NASA had, I think, on the order of $15 to $20 million—
I have forgotten which—the program  that we submitted to you
would cost at  least  $30 million a year. We have made this recom-
mendation  to the  Appropriation,  Transportation Subcommittee
of the Appropriations Committee of the House,  but they didn't
accept it.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, I am not  suggesting this—it's often danger-
ous to play with these numbers in a public hearing,  but I think I
heard you  say 30  million passengers  embark and disembark at
O'Hare terminal last year;  at a dollar-a-head  that would have
paid for your research program.
  Mr. BECKER. That's right.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you, sir.

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  Mr. HINTON. Mr. Becker, I would like to just say I agree very
strongly with two points that you made; namely, the fact that we
shouldn't let the problem at  existing airports—you mentioned
LaGuardia, J.F.K.,  or  Los Angeles dictate our actions, and say
we can't take  steps and prevent the problem from occurring  at
new airports.
  And second, you said that the route cause of the aircraft noise
problem is the location of airports  in  proximity  of residential
development around them.
  We have all the  noise in the world, and if there  was no one
there  to be exposed to it, it would not be a problem per se.
  I would like to ask  you a  question, and this  is in connection
with recent information that I have, that the airlines are about to
act in concert through the ATA operation committee, which you
are a  member of, to see, in the absence of continued FAA delay,
in adopting operating procedure, adopt an  optimized takeoff noise
abatement procedure.
  I wonder if  you have any timetable that you could tell us about
for implementation.
  Mr. BECKER. Well, as you know, the airlines have, and working
with the pilots, put  together some—it must be 4 years ago now—
what  was considered,  then it was changed a little bit this last
January, a standard noise abatement takeoff procedure for use  at
those places where you have noise problems, using that particular
one on a west  takeoff over Los Angeles, because you are over the
ocean very quick, nobody is out there that amounts to anything,
so they already have  one, so the FAA then, last April,  spent a
month's time  at their  research center, flight research center  at
Newark—at Atlantic City, N.J., testing several other takeoff and
landing procedures for  noise  abatement  purposes,  with  noise
monitoring meters and everything, using four aircraft, the DC-9,
the 727—1 think it was the 707-720 and  I have forgotten what
the other one was, and the reports aren't  in on that yet, and we
are anxious  to find  out just how those stacked up.
  We did have some airline people participate in  those.  The
only  difficulty with those tests were they were more aimed  at
what  the noise was,  and not  whether  they were  operationally
acceptable under all weather conditions,  and whatever we  do,
we have got to be able to do the same  for visual flight rules
and under  bad  weather conditions,  they  have  to be standard.
  Now, people will  quarrel with that. I  think that most of those
people are  not pilot types,  because  we have to formulate our
takeoff  and landing procedures  around  what  I choose to call
the lowest  common denominator  pilot and not around the  best
pilot.
  Mr.  HINTON. Well,  Mr.  Becker, you and I  are  both pilots,
and we know what needs to be done in certain areas.
  Now, it seems to me if you  are going  to standardize a noise
abatement procedure, you would use it everywhere, whether or not
it  was  necessary,  because of  an ocean  being  present  or  not,
you would just do it  for standardization purposes.
  Mr. BECKER. Well	
  Mr. HINTON. You obviously can't  operate differently at every
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  Mr. BECKER. As I said, Lloyd, when you do a noise abatement
procedure, you don't fly it the safest way it can be flown, so there
would  probably be two  methods—the  safest way to be flown,
which is all the way to the forward, get your speed up and hold it,
and get altitude.
  Mr. HINTON. I disagree with you on this point, but	
  Mr.  BECKER. Second, for noise,  though,  we ought to  have one
procedure.
  Now, there  are some airlines that are willing to go the other
way and do just the noise procedure, I agree with you.
  Mr. HINTON. Well, I feel that there is no denegation  of safety
with an  appropriate  noise procedure, and I guess  it has been,
is being  demonstrated everyday,  and I would just like to see—
I would like to know if you can tell us, give  us, some time when
the airlines  would,  as  a group,  implement optimized takeoff
procedures.
  Mr.  BECKER. No  way; no way.
  Mr. HINTON. OK; thank you.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Becker, you and I have	
  Mr.  BECKER. Discussed this before.
  Professor PLACER. Discussed  this  before  the public hearing,
so I don't think it  useful to rehash, for  the benefit of this
group, the whole  debate.
  I do think  it might be useful to  put a question to  you, but
let  me preface  the  question with a couple of comments  from
your statement.
  We  are  zeroing  in again  on  this  question of—well,  I am
looking at the  question  of  operational procedures  as distinct
from  what  can be  done  about  noise  at the source, and  as
distinct from the  land  use  planning  problem, the three legs
upon  which  this issue  generally is described  to  be  standing.
  Let's talk about operational procedures. In your statement here,
and in your  statements  before the public  hearings in  Illinois
on this same  question, you again made the statement  that the
National Government is charged  with the  exclusive regulation
of flight control and the use of airspace.
  Now, you cite, as so often done,  a phrase or two from a Senate
report. Nobody seems to  cite much in the way of Federal legisla-
tion, but  they  do cite a phrase or two  from various Senate reports,
which, in fact, are not the law. They are some indication of the
intent of the committee that dealt with the  statute, but that is not
congressional  action, but put that aside.
  Succinctly stated, I don't believe, Mr. Becker, that it is true that
the Federal Government has exclusive jurisdiction over the entire
array of operational procedures.
  I don't believe the States believe that, Mr. Becker. I  don't be-
lieve the  State of California believes it. I don't believe the State of
Illinois or the  State of New York, or the other big States  that have
thousands of people clammering for some action being taken here
and not getting that action, I don't believe  they believe it.
  I am not even sure the Federal  Government believes it, be-
cause if  you  read  carefully  the introductory sections to  FAR
part 36, which unhappily I don't have,  I  can't  find  my  copy
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even  with a  guard to the  certification of noise sources,  the
FAA has language in there saying these are not certifications
that have  to  be bought by  the airport proprietors. They  are
not  certifications  that  guarantee  to  meet  local requirements,
and  indeed there is  a disclaimer that,  in effect, says local pro-
prietors and problems have to take  it from there.
  Well, I guess  what I am asking  is I  gather from  earlier com-
ments from some of the airlines themselves that they are more
likely to accept  a cooperative attitude  with  the  State should the
States cease to move to encourage operational procedures that deal
with this problem, and the question I would simply put to you is
what attitude  can we expect from the ATA, whom you represent
here, when States move into this  area, which  they are indeed
doing; can we  expect  a  cooperative,  supportive attitude from
the Air Transportation Association to  come to grips with this
problem,  and  to deal  with  effective  regulatory programs,  or
can  we  expect  an  attitude in  which  the ATA will say,  "We
are not  going to  cooperate  with you  at all because you have
no right to do any of this."
  Mr. BECKER.  First I will  start  at the beginning of the con-
versation;  I will cite  you some sections of the act where  the
law  says what it says.
  Professor PLACER.  All right.
  Mr. BECKER.  Section 307 (c)—I  am dealing  with flight con-
trol and  use of airspace that was put in there in 1958.
  Professor PLACER. I am not here talking about CAB rules.
  Mr. BECKER. I am not talking about  CAB rules. I am talking
about  air  safety  flight control, use  of airspace—that  is  the
Administrator's—title  3 of  the act—is the Administrator  of
the  Federal Aviation Agency's  bailiwick;  title 4  is  the  civil
aeronautics bailiwick; title 3  is what I  am talking about.
  I am talking about air traffic  rules and safety. If  you want to
talk  about title  6,  pilot certification,  not airport—yes, airport
certification	
  Professor PLACER. No.  I  want to  talk about  preferential
runways, and  I  want to talk about	
  Mr.  BECKER. Preferential runways.
  Professor PLACER. Thrust  on takeoffs.
  Mr.  BECKER. Now you are in  two different areas.  If you want
to talk about runways, we are talking about section 307(c).
  If we are talking about reduced takeoff procedures, we are talk-
ing about title 6.
  Professor PLACER. Is it your contention—do I  understand your
contention  to  be that the airport  proprietors and  the munici-
palities and the  States  have no jurisdiction over questions like
preferential runways?
  Mr. BECKER.  I am going  to  get to  that.
  Professor PLACER.  Okay.
  Mr.  BECKER.  I will give  you  another  citation  where  the
law  says—and I read it—section 611,  which was put into  the
act in 1968 by  Public  Law  90-41  says the  Congress requires
aircraft  noise  abatement  regulations by the  FAA,  "Requires,"
the word requires is in there.
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  Mr. BECKER. No, I am saying it's an indication of preemption.
  Dr. MEYER. Gentlemen, excuse me. I will yield to the witness,
of course. Go ahead, sir.
  Mr.  BECKER. Now, I have lost your last question.
  Professor PLACER. My  last question  is what can we expect
from the ATA, Mr.  Becker?
  Mr.  BECKER. Well, you  left the impression that the airlines
had  one position and ATA had another.
  We  work  for  the airlines.  Our  position  is the  airline po-
sition.
  The  airline position  to  date  in  local jurisdictions  and  State
jurisdictions has been opposed to State regulation, or local regula-
tion.
  Professor PLACER. Of any kind?
  Mr.  BECKER.  I am talking about where it gets into safety,
or noise regulation.
  Professor PLACER. Or noise regulation?
  Mr.  BECKER.  Yes; I  am not getting into  zoning now.
  Professor  PLACER. No.
  Mr.  BECKER. As a matter  of fact, on that basis  the  Governor
of Rhode  Island just vetoed a bill which would have done just
the opposite.  That was  2  weeks ago.
  Dr.  MEYER. Do you have another question?
  Professor PLACER.  No, sir.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. Mr.  Becker,  are you concerned about  noise
inside  the airplane as well as outside, with the ATA?
  Mr.  BECKER. No.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. No?
  Mr.  BECKER,  We  don't get involved in that.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. Are  we hearing testimony  eventually  from
somebody  who might?
  Mr.  BECKER.  The airlines are interested  in having  quieter
airplanes  inside, but we haven't gotten involved in that in the
association.  It is not an industry  problem.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. Well, it could be.  There  are pilots of heli-
copters who,  if they proceed in their current jobs for  more
than 2 or 3  years,  will  be  deaf.
  Mr.  BECKER.  That's  right. We  don't have any  helicopter
operators  in  our association.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. You  don't? Okay.  I  will save that question.
Let me conclude by chiding you gently, I hope; in your initial
testimony, and in your  printed testimony on  page  1, paragraph
1, you say:
  Moreover, as studies by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
have shown, reaction to  the  same noise exposure varies with  individuals and,
in fact,  communities. It  is this subjective element that complicates efforts to
determine whether  a given  noise reduction program will, in fact, have any
measurable effect on reducing noise annoyance.

  Mr.  BECKER. That's right. It's the TRACOR study.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Again.
  Mr.  BECKER. Well, it was  financed by NASA for study,  some
$2 million
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. This  implies unless all human beings respond
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effect any change  in  their  environment is going  to  have on
them; is  that  true?
  Mr. BECKER.  Well,  this  is  what  the  TRACOR  study said,
in their conclusion 4, and  that was dated September 4, 1970.
That  certainly  is not the kind of predictions  to  describe rules
or regulations around, as the FAA has been contemplating.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Well, these  are  two separate points;  one is
how well you  can predict  from  a correlation coefficient, and
how much  variance  might  be  accounted for  by a  coefficient
of,  say, 0.4, which is  not as bad as you  seem to  feel. But
the point  I am  abstracting  from  your  testimony   indicates
to me that it  is not proper to consider averaging across  the
variability of individuals to get a  typical response of people.
  Mr. BECKER. If I left that impression,  I didn't  mean to	
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Yes.
  Mr. BECKER. Because the  thing that we think research  money
would be spent on—Professor Plager won't like this—but gauging
from what he said this morning, this is where we think  we should
really spend some early money to  find out the real  reactions of
people.  So far this has been done very badly.  It has been done
many times badly. With little money put into it, starting out with
BB&N's work back in 1962 and 1963, right on up to the present,
if you look through all the BB&N publications that have come
out in the last 8 years,  they keep referring to that original one.
The original one was a $25,000-some-order-type of study which
was just assimilation of a bunch of  other studies already done.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I agree the social studies need  more funding,
but I don't think  we are in that  bad a  shape as far as data.
There are certainly many  cases in  which we have  plenty of
material to back us  up.
  Mr. BECKER. Yes.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I don't think  we should wait for  more research
in 10 more years.
  But let  me just say  one thing about the  TRACOR  study,
since  it has  been mentioned twice  now;  they  found that noise
was  up  fourth  or fifth in  order  of importance  in  terms of
determining  annoyance  or  complaint  behavior from aircraft
noise.
  Mr.  BECKER.  Yes,  sir.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. It  wasn't inconsequential, but  it wasn't  the
first order.  Some of the first order elements were  fear  of  the
airplane falling on you,  and  one  that people ought to keep
well in mind  is that  concern  that the establishment  is  not
sympathetic and responsive to  their  misery.
  Mr.  BECKER.  That's  correct.  I  would  like  to  say  our  sub-
jective response proposal would be  a 2-year program.  We don't
think  it ought to be long, either. I would like to make  one more
point that I—it's in the paper, but I didn't make here—this  relates
to land use.
  It's worth noting  contrary  to  the oftheard argument  that
the  airport  noise has depressed the market value of particular
parcels  near some  airports, that conclusions of  actual studies
are  that such property values are far more  likely  to increase in
overall value, and we have a  study on that that is available, if you
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  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much,  Mr. Becker, and  thank
you, panel.  Before  you leave, Mr.  Becker,  I  would like to
call attention  to  a  couple  of  things  I  think  need to be made
clear  in  being presented to the audience, and  appear in the
record—one,  the question  of  Federal  preemption  versus  use
restrictions  and  control of States is a subject that is  being
very carefully explored by  my office for  the administrator in
the discharge  of  our responsibilities with  regard to this  report
to Congress.
  This  is a very,  very important  subject,  and  it  is  one I
think which is not  quite as clear, as  some people would  give
the impression, with regard to the rights of States to under-
take certain  use requirements, even to  the  extent of saying
how things  might be done  going in  and  out of airports.  And
this will appear  in our report to the Congress as part of our
study on  the  model law, as part  of our study on the  entire
field of activity  with  the  Federal Government, because there
are other elements beside the FAA involved, such as the Federal
Housing Administration and others. Secondly	
  Mr. BECKER. I  would agree with that. It  isn't black and  white.
  Dr. MEYER. Certainly we agree with you; I think everybody
on  the panel  does.  We have got to  arrive at better measures
of impact of noise  on human beings and  environmental  issues,
and again this is a major element  of our present study  and
will be  a  major  component of the research plan and program
that we plan to  implement, Mr. Becker. Thank  you very  much.
You have been an excellent witness.
  Mr. BECKER. Thank you,  sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Now, following along, it  appears highly  desir-
able to have some information presented from  the airport  opera-
tors. As most  of you know, airports are generally owned by mu-
nicipalities or government  entities, States—they  are not,  in the
main, privately owned or operated, so we will ask Mr. J. J. Corbett
of the Airport Operators Council International to come and ap-
pear. Mr.  Corbett, it's nice to have you here, sir.

                 STATEMENT OF J. J. CORBETT,
       AIRPORT  OPERATORS COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL
  Mr. CORBETT.  I am J. J. Corbett, vice president—Federal Af-
fairs  of the  Airport Operators Council International  (AOCI).
The Airport Operators Council International  is  the association
of  the governmental bodies which own and  operate  the prin-
cipal  airports served  by  the  scheduled  airlines  in the 50
States,  Puerto Rico, and  the  Virgin  Islands,  as  well  as in
many countries  abroad. In 1970, U.S.  member  airports  en-
planed about  90 percent of the domestic  and  virtually  all of
the U.S.  international  scheduled  airline  passenger  and  cargo
traffic.  In addition,  our  local government  members operate
many  reliever  and  other general  aviation  facilities  which
supplement  the  larger  airports in their  communities and re-
gions.  (A listing of our U.S. members  is appended for  your
information.)
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of our  U.S.  membership on  the  national  problem  of aircraft
noise pollution and to offer some recommendations for Federal
actions  directed toward its prompt abatement.  Our interest  in
these hearing's is  particularly keen as we  were quite active  in
terms of legislative support for the Title IV Clean Air Act pro-
visions under which this hearing is being held.
  Our airport operators are  in  a particularly uncomfortable
posture with respect to aircraft noise. They have very  limited
powers  to alleviate  the  noise  which is  created by the  air-
craft and not  by  their airports.  They are caught between  in-
tense community  pressures  and  their own  knowledge that
preparations  must be made to  meet anticipated traffic growth.
Conservative forecasts of air travel  growth  definitively  show
the necessity for  100 new airports in this Nation by the end
of this  decade  if the public's  requirements are to be met.
  Community airport providers, being caught  in the tidal wave
of environmental concern, are damned if they do and cursed if
they don't. However,  our members firmly  believe  that new  ca-
pacity in  our national airport system can  be  achieved with all
due environmental safeguards. The fact that airport development
is  being stymied across the Nation and around the world sug-
gests that others  do not agree. The major underlying issue  is
aircraft noise.
  The single  largest  shadow  which  darkens aviation's  devel-
opment over the next decade will  not be  the  faltering finances
of the airlines nor the recent congressional decision  to forego
a  U.S.  brand  SST.   It  will  be  the  inability  of  the  ground
facilities—the airport system—to  accommodate  the  people and
planes which desire  its services.
  Ear pollution, not air pollution, is  aviation's environmental
challenge. Unless  the effect of  aircraft  noise on   people  is
reduced, tomorrow's  aviation  system  will be  a  carbon  copy
of today's.

              History of the Aircraft Noise Problem
  Some background  information  on  the  history  of aircraft
noise may be  helpful. Until  the  introduction of jet aircraft,
civil  airports  had  generally existed  in  harmony  with  their
neighbors. With the  introduction  of  commercial  jet aircraft
in 1968 and with the increase in  aircraft operations brought
on  by  traffic growth, the  noise  problem began  to  intensify.
Larger  aircraft required  some communities to extend runways
and  overall  airport  dimensions  to  accommodate increased take-
off  and landing needs of the jet equipment.  The  combination
of increased operations and larger jet aircraft brought airports
closer to their neighboring communities. And the jet aircraft also
brought new  levels of noise pollution.
  Since 1958,  the general trend  has been toward bigger  and
noisier  aircraft, as  there was no  control  over  the noise  char-
acteristics of the  aircraft the  manufacturers  provided and the
airlines purchased.  Increased  numbers of  commercial jet op-
erations daily  intensified the problem and  raised it  to  one  of
national significance.

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  Recognizing  the critical nature  of the  noise  annoyance  to
millions  of citizens,  the Congress  in 1968 enacted legislation
(Public  Law  90-411)  authorizing  the FAA Administrator  to
certificate new and existing aircraft for noise acceptability pur-
poses. The language was similar to  existing law authorizing the
FAA to certificate aircraft for safety purposes.
  In the  almost 2 years between enactment of the noise cer-
tification  authority  and FAA's  first  implementing rule,  sub-
sonic noise exposure in many communities continued  to in-
crease. According to a  recent  survey conducted by AOCI, ap-
proximately  $3.8  billion in noise  claims  are estimated to  be
currently pending against public airport  operators. Even in-
dividual  States  and individual  communities  have brought  suits
and  injunctive actions against various communities owning air-
ports because   of  the   aircraft  noise  problem.  Noise  is  the
greatest  constraint now to airport development.
  Efforts by  airport sponsors  to  mitigate the  effect of air-
craft noise on  surrounding  communities  have  been  intensive
but  local governmental  solutions are  not  available. Most ma-
jor airports  are already impacted  by high-cost residential de-
velopment. The acquisition of vast amounts of  land  in these
communities  is neither  practical nor possible,  for the  com-
plete dislocation of  many  thousands  of  people in  established
communities,  particularly residential  areas,  is  not politically
possible.   Further, the  acquisition  costs are  economically  pro-
hibitive;  noise  affected  land,  for example, at  only one major
U.S. airport is valued in excess of $7  billion.
  In addition, the possibility  of new airports to serve increased
traffic  is no  panacea  and,  in many  communities, even  this
possibility is  evaporating quickly.  Communities  recognize the
economic necessity for  their connection to other  areas  of the
country  and  the world  through modern air transportation but
are  rejecting further  intrusions  on  their environment from
aircraft  noise.  As a result,  the noise problem  in many  com-
munities  has  indefinitely delayed the  probability  of additional
airport capacity through  new  jetports.
  The first and only noise  rule thus far  issued  by the FAA
became effective last  December 1. This regulation, which  applies
only to future subsonic aircraft, says, generally,  that  new air-
craft will  not be  certificated unless their  noise  levels—takeoff,
sideline,  and  approach—are  less than 108 EPNdB  (effective
perceived noise decibels)  at  each  measuring point.
  The current  jet fleet  is comprised of such  aircraft  as the
DC-8, DC-9, Boeing 727  and  the Boeing 707,  all of which
operate at noise levels in excess of the FAR part 36  limitation for
future aircraft. No  noise  regulations have  been  adopted for
the  present  jet fleet with the exceptions  of the DC-10 and
those Boeing 747's manufactured after December 31, 1971.
  This level  of 108  EPNdB  for the  new  aircraft may be,  as
the statute specifies, "Economically reasonable and technologically
practicable."  Whether it is also "community acceptable" remains
to be seen, but it does indicate an improvement over existing jet
noise levels.

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         Typical Environmental Problems at U.S. Airports
  In a  growing  number of American cities, airport  opponents
are proving  highly  successful in halting or severely delaying
the construction  of vital  airport facilities, not  only by legal
action but  also by invoking the environmental protection pro-
visions  of such recent Federal legislation as the Environmental
Protection Act of 1969 and the Airport and Airway Development
Act of 1970. A few examples will suffice.
  More  than 3 years ago, officials at Portland,  Oreg., announced
plans to spend $105 million  to  expand  Portland  International
Airport, which hugs the southern shore of  the  Columbia River.
Nearly  2 years  ago,  the Army Corps of Engineers authorized
the  Port of  Portland,  which  owns  the airport,  to  fill  and
dredge a 1-square-mile section of the Columbia to provide acreage
needed for the expansion.
  The  landfill project has never begun—and  there  are doubts
that it ever will.  It has been  blocked by  three lawsuits  brought
by  an  alliance of conservationists  and  homeowners who  live
across  the  river  in  Washington. Inflation, no friend  to ma-
lingering builders, has  meanwhile  added  $40 million  to  the
project's original  cost estimates.
  The Portland impasse is an example of what has  rapidly be-
come a  pattern in this country—and in much of the rest of the
world—where efforts are being  made to build new airports  and
expand  old ones.  Los Angeles went more that 40 miles from its
downtown center to select a 17,000-acre airport site in Palmdale,
a dry, barren area in Antelope  Valley. The  Sierra Club is now
suing to invalidate FAA approval of the site and the Federal De-
partment of Transportation has temporarily stopped  the flow of
funds for land acquisition.
  New  York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority wants to
convert  the former Stewart Air Force Base, more than 60 miles
from Manhattan, into a jetport. But community opposition has
been stirred up, resulting in the filing of a lawsuit. Some conser-
vationists in  Canada  are opposing Montreal's proposed new  air-
port—potentially  the world's largest—which is to cover more than
80,000 acres, most of it zoned to restrict construction of homes.
  Efforts to  build airports over or adjacent to waterways are
hardly  more  successful than  efforts made within  huge tracts
of land. The National Academy of Sciences in its report on New
York's Jamaica Bay has killed the projected expansion  of John
F. Kennedy International Airport.
  With  local  variation, the kind  of resistance  which has  been
described above has blocked or delayed jetport projects in  Atlanta,
Boston,  Minneapolis-St. Paul, San Jose, Calif., and  St. Louis,
among other cities.
  Nor are the problems of airport construction gaged solely by
public antipathy.  Responding to  the public desire for better envi-
ronmental planning and based upon the public's well-justified de-
mand for a  sound environment,  Congress has linked the Airport
and Airway Development Act of 1970—which will provide up to
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demand  that  developers of airports hold public  hearings  to  ex-
plore in  detail the environmental  impact of their  projects.  The*
Secretary of Transportation is prohibited from authorizing any
project if the project portends an  adverse effect on the quality
of life in a community unless the Secretary declares  in writing
that no  feasible or prudent  alternative exists.  The procedures
of the Department of Transportation and of the Federal Aviation
Regulations are  in  turn  carefully  regulated by  the President's
Council on Environmental Quality.
  Although it is too early to draw conclusions on the environ-
mental problems of specific U.S. airports,  several general  points
can be stated with certainty:
  First,  environmental review is desirable, and airport operators
recognize that fact.
  Second, the review process should be  in the  hands of those
who have the expertise to make environmental  decisions. This
excludes most judges. Environmental  decisions should be made
by  the administrative agencies of the U.S.  Government,  and
unless they have committed gross procedural or other error,  the
judgments of  these agencies should be upheld as final.
  Third, people should be responsible and reasonable. The public,
that is, should realize  that modern civilization requires a reason-
able balance between  the  demands of the environment  and  the
demands of the air traveling public.

   Additional Federal Efforts to Reduce Aircraft Noise at Its Source
  Earlier reference has  been made to the 1968  congressional
enactment which authorized the FAA to certificate new and  ex-
isting aircraft for noise acceptability purposes. This,  as mentioned,
has been quite helpful as an incentive to industry for meaningful
noise  abatement. Today's new  aircraft  are  noticeably  quieter
than their predecessors. The B-747, DC-10, and  the L-1011 will
all provide noise-blighted communities with some environmental
improvement.
  Airport operators are highly pleased with the new aircraft and
now suggest that future governmental  and industry action can
be concentrated toward modifying, so far as possible, the noise
produced by the  current fleet  of aircraft. This involves the possi-
bility of retrofitting those of today's aircraft which will not be
soon retired so as to reduce their noise effects.
  Work  on the possibility  of retrofitting  has  been part of  the
government and industry program for  some time with some
hopeful results.
  As part of the Interagency Aircraft Noise Abatement program
NASA initiated a project in 1966  to "identify  promising nacelle
modifications  on current four-engine turbofan-powered  aircraft
that would reduce the noise under the approach path by up to 1
EPNdB." In  October  1969, NASA contractors reported on the
results achieved under the contracts. The acoustic measurements
showed the following reduction of noise in EPNdB:
       Operation                     DC-8,  McDonnell Douglas    707 Boeing-
Approach (1 nautical mile) 	 10.5-12              15.5
Takeoff thrust (3.5 nautical mile)  	  2-3.5             3
Reduced thrust  (3.5 nautical mile)
  (6 percent climb gradient) 	 3                 3.5

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   In 1969-70, the Rohr Corp. completed a study for the FAA on
the economic impact of implementing acoustically treated nacelle
and duct configurations applicable to low bypass  turbofan en-
gines. According to  Rohr's  studies,  retrofit will reduce landing
noise by 10 EPNdB for DC-9, B-727, and B-737 aircraft, and by
13 EPNdB for 707 and DC-8 type aircraft. It will  reduce take-
off noise by 8 EPNdB, including power cutback on four-engine
turbofans, and by 5 EPNdB on two- and three-engine  turbofans.
   The NASA report shows that areas exposed to noise in excess
of 100 EPNdB can be reduced by 85 percent under the approach
path and by 50 to 55 percent under the  takeoff path for the type
of aircraft and retrofit treatment used in  NASA studies. The
indication  in the Rohr report that the cost of retrofit  can be re-
covered  by  a passenger fare increase ranging from 60 cents per
$100 in 1975 to 8 cents per $100 in 1982 offers little evidence of any
excessive economic penalty or burden. The Rohr report estimated
the cost of  retrofit at about $600 million for the current U.S. jet
fleet.
   On November 4,  1970, pursuant to the authority of Public Law
90-411,  the FAA issued an "Advance Notice of Proposed  Rule
Making" (ANPRM)  (docket No. 10664; notice No. 70-44) on Civil
Airplane Noise Reduction Retrofit  Requirements.  The  FAA's ad-
vance notice of proposed rulemaking constitutes the Agency's first
significant step  toward adopting any noise regulations for the
current  fleet of jet aircraft. At the  time  of the issuance of the
ANPRM, FAA Administrator John H. Shaffer  stated that,

  * * * Aircraft noise is the single greatest impediment to airport develop-
ment in the United States at the present time and prompt remedial action is
required if we are to meet the projected growth of aviation in the 1970's and
beyond. The FAA is  committed to using every legal regulatory technique
at its disposal to reduce aircraft noise at the source.

                    AOCI Position on Retrofit
   On the basis  of the above technical  information, AOCI feels
that aircraft engine retrofit constitutes a potential means of sub-
stantially reducing aircraft noise of  the current jet fleet. Retro-
fit, therefore, deserves  further examination  as proposed by S.
1566, known  as  the  Cranston/Wilson  bill to control aircraft
noise. This  measure,  if enacted, would require the appropriation
of $35 million to  do retrofit prototype research on a cross section
of  today's  aircraft.  Those  aircraft types for  which retrofit
proved   technologically  feasible  and economically   reasonable
would be retrofitted under  the Cranston  bill by  1976. Those
aircraft  types for which retrofit did not appear feasible and prac-
ticable would be forced into retirement by 1976.
   The Cranston bill, if enacted, would require, by 1976, that all
subsonic aircraft operating  within  the United States  reduce
their noise levels (at all three measuring points), by 10 EPNdB
from current noise levels or reduce noise levels to those adopted
in FAR part 36,  appendix C  (108 EPNdB), whichever reduc-
tion   is  greater.  AOCI testified  before the  Subcommittee on
Aviation of the  Senate  Commerce Committee in  general  sup-
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the Rohr Corp. stated that a 50-percent reduction in noise levels
of all  U.S. two- and three-engine  aircraft is now within  the
state of the art through nacelle  retrofit at a total cost of about
$500 million.

             Uniform Noise Levels for All SST Aircraft
  Finally  and for  the  record,  the Environmental  Protection
Agency should recognize that AOCI stands in support of a uni-
form  noise level for all  SST  aircraft,  irrespective of national
origin. Information on the noise characteristics of the Concorde
suggest that it is not capable of meeting the noise limitations of
part 36, appendix C of the FAR. No definitive  information is
yet available  on the amounts  of noise to be produced  by  the
TU-144. Legislation  has been introduced in at least a dozen State
legislatures to prohibit SST aircraft landings within those States.
  Clearly,  the problem of establishing maximum noise levels for
supersonic aircraft requires uniform action on a national (and
international)  level. Congress  should not  abandon the  field to
local public entities  or to State legislatures. To do  so  would re-
sult in  inadequate  and—certainly—nommiform  supersonic  air-
craft  noise standards. We all recognize that civil air transpor-
tation is an interstate activity requiring uniform  Federal laws.
The United States must take the lead in establishing responsible
maximum aircraft noise regulations in the public interest.
  We therefore urge the adoption  of  Federal  regulations  re-
quiring that no supersonic aircraft  be  permitted to land  at  any
U.S. airport unless such aircraft can comply with the  maximum
noise  level standards specified  for new subsonic jet aircraft in
sections C36.3 and C36.5  (a) and (b) of appendix C  (evaluated
as prescribed by app. B) of part 36 of the FAR.

           AOCI Recommendations Regarding the Noise
                    Compatibility of Airports
  Based on the foregoing  discussion, AOCI presents the  follow-
ing recommendations  to the Environmental  Protection  Agency
for consideration.
  1. The aircraft noise problem  must be resolved  on a national
and international basis through  the efforts of national  govern-
ments, the airlines and the aircraft manufacturers, and with the
assistance  of local airport operators. Actions must  be  taken to:
(1)  Reduce noise   at its  source  (the  aircraft  engine) ;  (2)
strengthen the implementation of aircraft noise abatement oper-
ating procedures; and (3)  work toward compatible land use in
the development of new airports.
  2. The economic reasonableness and technological  feasibility of
aircraft engine retrofit for the current jet fleet of subsonic  air-
craft  should be thoroughly examined through  the  appropriation
of $35  million by the Federal  Government for a  cross-section
prototype retrofit program. Those  prototypes  for which retrofit
proves reasonable and feasible should be retrofitted by  1976,  and
those prototypes for which retrofit does not prove reasonable  and
feasible should be retired by 1976.
  3. Noise limitations, as established by part  36 of the  Federal
Aviation Regulations and by ICAO draft annex 16 at a  maximum

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of 108  EPNdB, should be applied uniformly to all present and
future aircraft, including the Boeing 747, and DC-10, the L-1011,
and  all supersonic aircraft including any future U.S. SST,  the
Concorde, and the TU-144.
  4. Aircraft noise reduction  should  be accomplished  by  the
Federal Government through reasonable implementation of safe
aircraft operating procedures  including the use  of  preferential
runways and noise abatement takeoff and landing procedures.
  5. Where  legally and  economically  practicable,  compatible
land use planning should be implemented at  new airports and
in the preservation of larger vacant land where still available in
the  vicinity of older  airports. In  those  airport  communities
which are  already heavily impacted  by residential development,
compatible land use planning should not be  presented as a solu-
tion to  the aircraft noise problem  unless some workable method
for  implementing  such planning  accompanies the  issuance  or
publication of such a plan.
  6. Since most  environmental problems  now confronting air-
port operators and their  communities  are  national  and inter-
national in  scope, such problems cannot be  effectively regulated
or resolved on the  State and local  level. The Federal Govern-
ment should assume its proper responsibility in this  area rather
than attempting—as has been done in the aircraft noise area—to
shift the burden to the  local airport operator. The Federal
Government should acknowledge its preemption of both the legal
and  financial responsibility for aircraft noise  since it  alone has
the power to uniformly regulate aircraft noise.
  7. Regarding the process of environmental review required  of
airport operators  and  others seeking Federal funds under the
Environmental Protection Act of  1969 and  the Airport  and
Airway Development Act of 1970,  airport operators support in-
formed  citizen participation in the environmental review  proc-
ess through full and forthright sponsor disclosure of all actions
significantly affecting the environment.  Airport operators recom-
mend, after such an environmental review process has been com-
pleted, that the progress of aviation requires  a reasonable bal-
ancing on the part of the various  Federal agencies between the
demands of the environment and the  demands of those who wish
or need to travel by air.

                          Summary
  Aircraft noise pollution  is  viewed by  governmental airport
operators as the single greatest constraint to orderly aviation
development in the 1970's. New airport capacity is stalled across
the Nation  and around the  globe  primarily because of under-
standable community and  public disaffection with the  noise  of
current-day aircraft. The  single  most  beneficial step  offering
promise  of  noise  alleviation is accelerated  Federal  applied  re-
search toward, and a prompt Federal decision regarding, the retro-
fit of the existing jet  fleet, primarily for those  aircraft whose
useful  service life exceed 5 years.  The  international and inter-
state nature of air transportation requires that  action to mitigate
aircraft  noise  be  concentrated  on  reduction  of noise at  its
source—the aircraft engine—and that  Federal or international
action, and  not inconsistent  State/local  measures, be expedited.

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              AIRPORT OPERATORS COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL
                       U.S. Public Members by State
                                                        June 15, 1971.
ALABAMA: Birmingham, Department of Aviation; Huntsville, Madison County
  Airport Authority; Montgomery, city of.
ALASKA: Alaska, Department of Public Works,  Division of Aviation.
ARIZONA:  Phoenix, city of.
ARKANSAS: Port Smith, city of.
CALIFORNIA: Bakersfleld, county of Kern; Fresno, city of; Hayward, Airport
  Department, city of Hayward; Los Angeles, Department of Airports; Oak-
  land,  Board of Port Commissioners; Palm  Springs, city  of;  Riverside,
  County  Airports  Department;  Sacramento,  county;  San Diego, Unified
  Port District;  San Francisco, Airport Department—city and county of San
  Francisco;  San Jose, city of, Municipal  Airport; Stockton, Department of
  Aviation, county of San Joaquin.
COLORADO: Colorado Springs,  city of; Denver, Department  of Public Works,
  city and county of Denver;  Pueblo, Memorial  Airport.
CONNECTICUT: Connecticut, Department of Aeronautics.
DELAWARE : Wilmington, Transportation Board  of New  Castle County.
FLORIDA: Daytona Beach,  city of; Fort Lauderdale,  Board of County  Com-
  missioners, Broward  County; Jacksonville,  city commission;  Melbourne,
  city of; Miami, Dade County Port Authority; Orlando, city of;  Pensacola,
  city of; Sarasota, Manatee Airport Authority; Tampa, Hillsborough County
  Aviation Authority; West  Palm Beach, Board  of  County Commissioners.
GEORGIA: Atlanta, Department of Aviation;  Savannah, Airport Commission.
HAWAII: Hawaii, Department of Transportation.
ILLINOIS:  Chicago,  Department  of Aviation; Moline, Metropolitan Airport
  Authority of  Rock Island  County; Rockford,  Greater  Rockford Airport
  Authority.
INDIANA:  Evansville, Vanderburgh Airport Authority District; Fort Wayne,
  Board of Aviation Commissioners; Indianapolis, Airport Authority.
IOWA: Cedar Rapids, Municipal Airport Commission; Des Moines, Department
  of Aviation;  Mason  City, Municipal Airport Commission; Waterloo,  Air-
  port Commission.
KANSAS: Wichita, Board of Park Commissioners.
KENTUCKY:  Louisville  and Jefferson  County Air Board;  Paducah, Airport
  Corp.
LOUISIANA: Baton Rouge,  Greater Baton Rouge Airport District;  Lafayette,
  Airport Commission; Lake  Charles, Airport Authority for Airport District
  No. 1, Calasieu Parish; New Orleans, Aviation Board; New Orleans, Board
  of Levee Commissioners.
MAINE: Bangor, city of; Portland, city of.
MARYLAND: Baltimore, Friendship International Airport Authority.
MASSACHUSETTS:  Boston, Massachusetts Port Authority.
MICHIGAN: Detroit, Board of County Road  Commissioners, Wayne County;
  Flint, city  of;  Grand Rapids, Kent County Aeronautics  Board; Saginaw,
  Bay City-Midland-Tri-City  Airport Commission.
MINNESOTA: Minneapolis-St.  Paul, Metropolitan Airports Commission.
MISSISSIPPI: Jackson, Municipal Airport Authority.
MISSOURI:  Kansas  City,  Aviation  Department;  St.  Louis, Department of
  Public Utilities; Springfield, Municipal Airport.
MONTANA: Great Falls, International Airport Commission.
NEBRASKA: Lincoln, Airport Authority, city of Lincoln; North Platte, Airport
  Authority; Omaha, Airport Authority of  the city  of  Omaha.
NEW HAMPSHIRE: Manchester, Airport  Authority.
NEW JERSEY: Trenton, County of Mercer.
NEW MEXICO: Albuquerque, Sunport.
NEW YORK: Buffalo, Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority; New York
  and  Newark, the  Port of New York Authority; Syracuse, city of.
NORTH  CAROLINA: Charlotte, Douglas Municipal  Airport;  Greensboro, High
  Point Airport Authority.
OHIO:  Akron-Canton, Regional Airport Authority; Cincinnati, Kenton County
  Airport Board; Cleveland, Division of  Airports;  Columbus,  Metropolitan
  Airport  and  Aviation  Commission;  Dayton,  Department  of  Aviation;
  Toledo, city of; Youngstown, Municipal Airport.
OKLAHOMA: Oklahoma City, Airport Trust; Tulsa, Airport Authority.
OREGON: Portland,  Port of.

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PENNSYLVANIA: Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton,  Lehigh-Northampton Airport
  Authority;  Pennsylvania, Aeronautics Commission; Philadelphia, Depart-
  ment of Commerce.
RHODE ISLAND: Rhode Island, Division  of Aeronautics.
SOUTH CAROLINA: Columbia-Richland-Lexington, Airport Commission; Green-
  ville-Spartanburg, Airport Commission.
TENNESSEE: Chattanooga,  Department of Public Works; Knoxville, city of;
  Memphis, city of; Nashville and Davidson  County, metropolitan govern-
  ment of.
TEXAS: Dallas, Department of Aviation;  Dallas-Fort Worth,  Regional Air-
  port Authority; El Paso, city of; Fort Worth, city of; Houston, Department
  of Aviation; San Antonio, Department of Aviation.
VERMONT:  Burlington, Burlington Airport Commission.
VIRGINIA: Newport News,  the Peninsula Airport Commission; Norfolk, Port
  and Industrial Authority.
WASHINGTON: Seattle, King  County, Boeing  Field International; Seattle,
  Port of Seattle Commission; Spokane, Airport Board.
WASHINGTON,  D.C.: Washington, D.C., FAA  Bureau of National Capital
  Airports.
WEST VIRGINIA: Huntington, Tri-State Authority.
WISCONSIN : Milwaukee, Airport  Department of Milwaukee County.
PUERTO Rico:  San Juan, Puerto Rico Ports  Authority.
VIRGIN ISLANDS: Virgin Islands, Port Authority.

  Thank  you, Mr. Chairman.  I  will be  happy to  respond to
questions.
  Dr.  MEYER. Fine. Thank  you,  sir,  for a very excellent  sum-
mary  of  your paper,  which,  as  I glance  through  it,  contains
information of tremendous value.  And we may have to communi-
cate with you from time to time to get some more  specific dis-
cussions regarding some of the content.
  The panel, any questions?
  Professor KERREBROCK. With regard  to  your expectations for
the future, I would like to have a little clarification.
  There are  two views  as to the  significance  of the next, the
new generation  of aircraft, the DC-10 and the 747, and  their
impact  on the airport noise  problem in  general.
  One,  of course, is a  great sense of relief that they are  quieter
than  the last generation  of aircraft,  but on  the  other  hand,
when one takes  account of the projected traffic increases which
you have alluded to, at least one  study of Kennedy  Airport has
predicted that even if  all of the  aircraft flying out  of  Kennedy
Airport essentially were of this type,  by 1978 or  1980, the noise
problem would  be  considerably worse  than  it  is now  because
of the increased  traffic.
  Do you think  that  this  is a  reasonable projection  for the
Nation as a whole?
  Mr.  CORBETT.  Well,  we hope that the new generation  of air-
craft, which not only are quieter, but are larger, will be  able to
handle  a larger number of  passengers without increasing the
number of flights  proportionately,  so  that  over at  least the
short term,  we can purchase some time  to further modify the
aircraft at the source.
  Professor KERREBROCK. But you do  expect that further  modifi-
cation will be required, then, by when, 1980 or 1978?
  Mr. CORBETT. In terms of reduction of the noise at the source?
  Professor KERREBROCK. In terms of bringing  the overall noise
impact in a  community like Los  Angeles or New  York to  an
acceptable level.

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  Mr. CORBETT. The situation is essentially this: The communi-
ties—the environmentalists, with their very proper  concerns, are
saying to  airport operators,

You are part of the aviation community; you tell the rest  of the aviation
community that what they have been doing is darn good, but it isn't enough.
Until you can  do more, no new airports, no new runways,  no new airport
expansion,

so the airport operator is going to be pressing to the entire aviation
industry for whatever actions are possible, technologically possible,
of course, to reduce the effect of noise on people, and if, as Mr.
McPike said, your aircraft now can meet 108, we are going  to be
pushing for less than 108 EPNdB. It has to be a continuing process.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Thank you.
  Mr. MARTIN. Mr. Corbett, for the sake of argument, if retro-
fit went through—and,  of course, with the DC-8 you are getting
quieter airplanes, and  therefore the  boundary lines that  have
a major annoyance are getting closer to  the  airport, are the
airport operators  opposed  to  a compromise situation as the ban
gets closer to the airport, taking a look at land acquisition to elimi-
nate the real bad areas ?
  Mr. CORBETT. Not at all. I think  the  statistics  will indicate
that the city of Los Angeles  has expended  $130 million in land
acquisitions to take care of the most critical areas of their airport.
  When  that  situation develops,  it  will  be   a  tradeoff;  air-
port  operators will do their  best within  their powers to pro-
tect people from noise.
  The true solution to the aircraft noise  problem in the view-
point of the airport operator is a combination of all three factors:
Reduced noise at its source, to reduce the effect  of noise  on people
—and that  includes noise  abatement  procedures—and  the  third
area is compatible land use.
  As  indicated in  the testimony, with  impacted  land areas
around airports now, to change that  whole area of development
is impossible politically because the people don't want to move.
They want  noise to be reduced  in the future; for  new airports
more land is being acquired,  more zoning is being accomplished
to protect this  situation from  happening again for  a future gen-
eration.
  In  Montreal, for example, 80,000 acres, square  acres  have
been acquired for new airport.
  Even  with  that there  are  environmental  concerns  being
expressed.
  Mr. HINTON. Mr.  Corbett, I would like to just mention,  I
think the recommendations that you have included  in the end of
your  paper  are quite good.
  You do appear to adopt, as you say, the more balanced  posi-
tion that you agree that other actions will probably be necessary
in addition to the  reduction of the noise at the source through
retrofit, or improved designs of new aircraft.
  I would like to have  your reaction to a question as, you know,
under the provisions  of the  Airport-Airway  Development Act
of  1970, the airports are now required to meet certain safety
standards for airport design, layout, equipment, facilities, that
sort of thing.

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  I wonder if—you mentioned environmental controls; now,  do
you  object to the  placement  of  environmental controls around
airports which would be, essentially, the same pattern of safety
controls, but they  would be applied in terms of  the  impact of
airport operations on surrounding communities?
  Mr. CORBETT. I think  that primarily	
  Mr. HINTON. Standards be set for that purpose?
  Mr. CORBETT. I think  that is primarily addressed at the time
of construction, under the legislation you are  referring to, there
can be no major  expansion  of an airport or runway, or addition
of a  new airport in this Nation after  May  21,  1970, without
very long, extensive, careful environmental review.
  We support that legislation  very  strongly.
  On terms  of a  continuing review  of  airport  operations,  to
make sure that they are not pollutants on a daily operational
basis, we would have no objection  to any environmental agency
taking that responsibility, because for airport operators to have
a successful  facility that is amenable  to  the  airport neighbors,
we  have to do everything  we can to make sure that aviation
technological development does not  conflict with the community's
environmental concerns.
  Mr. HINTON. I  think that  is most enlightening.
  Thank you.
  Professor  PLACER. Just to  follow up on that,  I notice, Mr.
Corbett, that in  the attachment to your statement you list  the
members of your association—and  there are quite a  number of
those that are governmental  bodies of one kind  or another.
  Let's  assume hypothefically for  the moment that out of  all
of this will come  a coalition  of effort by the Federal Government,
by State government,  by local government, and  by the airport
proprietors, all addressing themselves  to what is  the  most sen-
sible economic and effective way  to deal with this problem, and
hopefully with the support of the industry,  let's assume they
turn  to  you  and they  say, "All right,  Mr.  Airport  Operator,
what can you do? What can be  done?"
  What specific things are within the realm of the airport oper-
ators' world that  can contribute to  solving this problem?
  Mr. CORBETT. I  think the question  is two part; it's what can you
do, and  is it going to be effective.
  Professor PLAGER. All  right.
  Mr. CORBETT. Just to  follow up  one question that  was asked
of the prior  witness, how about  taxing an airline—how would
taxing an airline on the amount of noise that aircraft makes—
studies  have been  done at a number of U.S. airports as  to
whether, instead  of charging aircraft based on weight in terms
of landing  fee, you charge on the basis of time on runway use,
on the amount of  noise that  is  made.
  The question is a landing fee  is generally  a negotiated situ-
ation  between an airport and the  airlines, and from  the  prior
discussions,  it is  quite  clear that the  airlines would not agree
to that approach.  That is one potential  area that does not appear
to be fruitful at this time.
  Professor PLAGER. Let's assume for the moment  that they will
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industry,  or some part of the  industry, and  let's just assume
that,  respond in  terms of what you  think  would be a sensible,
some  specific sensible things that could be done.
  One of them, I take it, is to rewrite the lease arrangements
between  the operator  and the  airline,  charging a fee  in  terms
of noise  level. That is a very interesting idea. How about some
others ?
  Mr. CORBETT. Well, the potential areas may be three; regu-
latory, economic, or by way of public  opinion.
  Thus far airport operators,  through our  association, and  di-
rectly, have been trying to interest government at all levels about
the problems of aircraft noise abatement.
  In  terms of regulation, airports  can  do things, but there are
constraints on what they can do.
  The thing that has been  mentioned, quite  properly by Mr.
Becker before me, is that an airport is part of a national and
international situation. To have a  number of inconsistent acts
by  one government, either State or  local,  different  in another
jurisdiction where the aircraft next lights down, we think takes
away from the interstate commerce  aspect  of aviation,  and in
the broadest sense, international.
  If you want the real idealist way to  lower aircraft noise, you
go to an international forum, not a national forum.
  Professor PLACER.  Are there any  specific programs that the
airport operators themselves, at the local level, you know, things
like get  back to  preferential  runways—that  is  not  an  inter-
national  problem—I mean, that is  a  local problem, isn't it?
  Mr. CORBETT.  No,  but as I think  as has  been mentioned
earlier—and I am sure the pilot following me, the pilot  who is
following me will address himself  to it, from  the time the air-
craft  starts moving down the runway, that so far as the airport
operator understands  Federal law, it's a Federal responsibility
as relates  directly to  safety, if the FAA, through  preferential
use of runways,  more and  better noise abatement  procedures
can increase—can  decrease  the noise  exposure while keeping
pilots and everyone else  happy in  terms of safety, the airport
operators are strongly behind it.
  Can they do that strictly? My  understanding  of the  law is
that the  airport operator's legal ability, in areas relating  to air
traffic control and the flight of aircraft is minimal, if existent
at all.
  Professor PLACER. One  of the constraints, then, you feel from
your industry's viewpoint is an unclarity as to what your author-
ity  is  in this area; is that  what you  are  saying?
  Mr. CORBETT. I am not sure if I am  clear. I think we don't have
any authority, I think it's  clear that we  don't.
  Professor PLACER. In any  event,  that is it. OK. I see.  Thank
you.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Mr.  Corbett	
  Dr. MEYER.  I  think that is an important point.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Mr. Corbett,  do  you  think the STOL aircraft
holds  any chance of alleviating any noise in the future?
  Mr. CORBETT.  Yes.  One of  the  beneficial studies that have
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 some time is  what we call an industry work group; it's com-
 posed of the manufacturers  of aircraft, international, domestic
 airlines and  airport operators.
   One of the things they have worked on is to try to determine
 what the acceptable level of noise  would be for STOL aircraft
 in a short term.
   I  think  their  studies  indicate that a  STOL-developed  air-
 craft should be capable of  approaching  95 EPNdB, and that
 has  been suggested  in  that  area, after consultations, and very
 good cooperation among  all  those  parts of industry.
   Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir.
   We appreciate your time in coming before us today. I  should
 next like to  ask  Capt. Richard  Heller  of  the Airline  Pilots
 Association  to come forward, if  he would,  and  give  us his
 remarks with  regard  to how the airline pilot, the operator
 of the  aircraft,  views  the  question  of  safety and  noise.  Is
 Captain  Heller here?
   (No response.)
   I  guess because of  the delay  in our schedule, he may have
 had  to  proceed  on,  to get on with  maybe flying  an airplane.
 I have been  requested, since  apparently there are some  people
 who have arrived since we started, if we would again identify the
 panel members, so I shall do so.
   I  am  Alvin Meyer,  the  Director of  the  Office of  Noise
 Abatement  and  Control  of  the  Environmental  Protection
 Agency.
   We  have Professor  Kerrebrock  from  MIT.  We have Mr.
 Martin  from the Society of  Automotive Engineers; Mr.  Lloyd
 Hinton,  from  the  Metropolitan  Aircraft  Noise  Abatement
 Council of Minneapolis; Professor  Plager  from  the University
 of  Illinois;  and  Dr.  Whitcomb  of the  National  Research
 Council.
  Would Mr. Sheldon  Samuels  of the Industrial  Union  De-
 partment of the American  Federation  of Labor,  Council  of
 Industrial Organizations, please come forward? Sir,  at this time
we are glad to welcome you  to the hearings, so we  might hear,
 as a bridge  between the problems  of the aeronautical industry
 and  its impact on the  community, and impact of industry  on
 to their neighbors,  about the views of organized labor on this
 important subject. Glad to  have you here, sir, and sorry we
 have been so long in getting to this point, but we  are getting
 closer to our schedule.
  Mr. SAMUELS. Thank you, Dr. Meyer.

       STATEMENT OF SHELDON W. SAMUELS, AFL-CIO
  Mr. SAMUELS. Dr.  Meyer,  ladies and gentlemen,  as Director
 of Occupational  Health, Safety and Environmental  Affairs for
the Industrial Union  Department of the AFL-CIO,  I must, on
occasion, be  critical  of Government. I would, however, like
to take  this occasion to point out  the excellent  design of this
 hearing.  In  addition,  however, it's  our hope that our place on
the printed  agenda is not indicative of the weight given our
views by your office.
  Dr. MEYER.  It was not so intended, sir; it  was to serve  as
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public presentations  that  will follow on  the next  day,  but I
realize you have a timing situation. Indeed it was not intended.
  Mr. SAMUELS.  Of course I am  jesting,  sir, and I  thank you
for the consideration. I am  appearing  today on  behalf  of 58
unions and  7 million workers.
  With me  is  the Honorable Fred Linde,  assistant to the
President for Environmental Affairs of the Oil,  Chemical, and
Atomic Workers, a  professional  engineer  and chairman of the
Kansas State House  Committee on the  Environment, and con-
sultant to  the occupational  health,  safety, and  environmental
programs of the Industrial  Union Department,  AFL-CIO.
  Tomorrow I will introduce a delegation  from a lodge of the
International  Association  of  Machinists  in  Benton  Harbor,
Mich., and,  if their negotiations  permit, a delegation of  steel-
workers from this area.
  In  view of your  plan  for  these  hearings we will  confine our
remarks to a very simple description of some problems of industrial
noise  as an occupational and as a community hazard.
  At  later hearings we will discuss the problems of standards and
legislation.
  We hear  a great deal these days about the productivity of
the American worker,  a concept  whose  meaning   shifts de-
pending  upon  whether  it is being used in  employer-employee
contract  negotiations  or  at a  stockholders  annual meeting.
  There  is,  however, another concept whose meaning does not
shift because of its very concrete use: subsidy.
  It is a key  term to the  understanding of the economics of pollu-
tion. Acceptance of pollution—noise-air-water—in the community
of the workplace is, in the economic sense, a subsidy by the com-
munity or by an employee, of the design,  production, and market-
ing of a product.
  This subsidy takes the  form of economic damage, aesthetic
insult, and the pain and  anguish of death and disease.
  To  illustrate the subsidy of noise pollution we have  taken noise
level recordings and readings at three plants; the last, in Benton
Harbor, will  be discussed tomorrow. Today I want to introduce
into the record the following slides, recordings and descriptions.
  Slide 1, please.
   [Showing of first slide in series.]
  I apologize	
  Dr. MEYER. Will you  turn the  lights  down, please.
  Mr. SAMUELS. For  its vagueness. It's meant to  focus  on a
simple sign.   It talks about  safety  glasses; in the  past,  and
unfortunately, even today,  is  the  focus of occupational  health
and safety programs at the Federal and State level. Obviously
they  are not  enough.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]

  TAPE RECORDING. United States Steel, South Works, Chicago, 111.

   [Showing of next slide in series.]

  TAPE RECORDING. Average decibel readings, 74 to 80.

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   [Showing of next slide in series.]

  TAPE RECORDING. That was the Indiana Forge & Machine Co.
  Average 98 to 102; peak value, 104.

  Mr. SAMUELS. These, of course, are all on the A-scale.

  TAPE RECORDING. 94 decibels, diesel traffic noises.
  The peak readings of 94 occurred only when the diesel trucks were passing
by.
  Mr. SAMUELS.  I  think  that is the end of our  audiovisual
display.
  Dr. MEYER. That was a very fine one, sir.
  Could  we have  the lights up a little bit, but not these bright
ones, if we can avoid it, for  the time being.
  Mr. SAMUELS.  All of the  photos,  readings, and  recordings
which you have seen and heard were  taken  not from within
the  plant, but from  the  sidewalks  of  the  South  Works  of
United States Steel. We were  at the property line,  about 100
feet from the walls  of the source.
  At Indiana Forge & Machine Co. we were at the property line
about 20 feet from the walls of the source.
  Conditions at Indiana Forge are rather typical. The  plant em-
ploys 93 steelworkers. Like many small plants there is a  good rela-
tionship between management and employee.
  James  McCarty,  secretary  to  the  local  union,  has  worked
there locally for 31 years. He describes  it as a good place  to
work where  conditions are not worse than in  any other forge.
These conditions include a subsidy of  the company, in the  form
of  probable  hearing loss, through the  acceptance  of literally
deafening  noise. There  is no evidence of  any kind of hearing
conservation  program.  Unfitted and  virtually  useless  earplugs
and cotton are available on request.  There is  little comfort  in
the fact  that even management in this  plant  may suffer with
their employees, since they are investing  rather than subsidizing
the cost of production.
  Safety and health inspection of the plant seldom, if ever, occurs.
The employees, in fact,  seem  to prefer handling these problems
directly with the employer. They are greatly concerned about the
financial  well being  of the company, and yet something must  be
done.
  In  concluding our formal remarks today, we would like to em-
phasize the relation of noise to other hazards, such as safety. The
ability to avoid a hazard in the operation of a machine—or an auto-
mobile—often  depends  on rather subtle nuances  of  sound. If,
because of background noise  and loss of hearing, the operator
is distracted,  cannot hear changes in  sound  around  him, an
instruction or even a  warning  screech, his life and  the  lives
of others are in danger.
  The consequence  is  that  an  untallied,  but major  effect  of
noise  pollution is death  and  injury on  the  job  and in the
street.
  We have had, within the last couple  of weeks, at  least two
major accidents in this  country in which men have been killed
because they  could not hear the warnings.
  Thank you very much.

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  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very  much, Mr.  Samuels.
  Panel?
  Mr. HINTON. I would like  to ask a couple of questions. You
didn't mention the Walsh-Healy Act,  Mr.  Samuels.  I  wonder
if you are familiar with the provisions of that act ?
  Mr. SAMUELS.  Yes.  That  act,  as  you know, has  been pre-
empted by the Occupational Safety and Health Act. The primary
enforcement for that, of course, is the U.S. Department of Labor.
  The Labor Department has, in effect, called for a moratorium
of the standards  related to  noise.  Under  their  current  pub-
lished regulations  they  would not be  enforced until February
of 1972.
  We are,  of course, objecting  to that  moratorium.
  Mr. HINTON. I agree with you, Mr.  Samuels.
  Do you, or the gentlemen with you, know about the existence of
meters that are capable of measuring cumulative exposure?
  Mr. LINDE.  Yes, I am.
  Mr. HINTON. They are relatively  new, and  I just	
  Mr. LINDE.  They not only measure the cumulative exposure,
but will  also, can also  be  wired to show  when  a peak, some
predetermined peak is exceeded,  yes, sir.
  Mr. HINTON. Thank you.
  Mr. LINDE.  There are not too many of  these available. The
problem,  of  course, as far as any organized labor  is concerned,
is getting   the  concurrence  of management to permit,  to
supply or, and/or permit use of these by  the  employees.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel, any other questions? We certainly  appreciate
your comments, and are looking forward to your  testimony to-
morrow.
  I think in your highlighting you and  the presenter who are
going to follow,  Mr. Goodfriend, emphasize there is  a  rela-
tionship  between,  of course,  what goes on in the  plant and
what is going on outside it,  and also the airplane flying over,
and  the  motor vehicle  moving  through the streets. We  have
to look  at  this  as an integrated environmental   problem, and
we  want to work very closely with you, as well as industry,
and  all  elements of the public,  so  we  look  forward to  your
presentation tomorrow,  sir.
  Mr. SAMUELS.  Mr. Linde  has  an additional comment.
  Mr. LINDE. If I may, doctor.
  Dr. MEYER. Please.
  Mr. LINDE. As  a  politician I feel very  badly  if I were  to
leave here and not having had something  to say, but I would
like to emphasize that our process plant—and  I speak particu-
larly from  the standpoint of  chemical and  petroleum chemical
plants, and  petroleum refineries, are, contrary to normal thought
in many cases, very noisy.
  So many  of them use high pressure  processes  that require
large compressors; the interstate gas transmission  network uses
compressors with single prime movers of 5,000  or  10,000 horse-
power, and  these  are overpoweringly  noisy, and  have a  very
profound effect on the  men  that  operate them.
  The point  I think we want to make  and emphasize is that
so much of this noise  can  be  engineered  out at the source,
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everything be  shut down,  or  anything like  that. This  is  im-
possible. The  economy  and our society would come  to an  end
if anything like that were tried.
  But we  would propose as legislation is  drafted that  it rec-
ognizes the state of the art now in the suppressing noise, and
quite often it's only  a matter of  specifying, in the case  of
machinery that the noise  level be  so and  so, and  you  do it
with  very, very little cost penalty. This  is  one  of  the  points
we want to make.
  I also suppose  that  all  of you  gentlemen  read  the stories,
several  of  them in the Wall Street  Journal just recently  about
some of the horrible jobs people work at in the United States.
  A drop  forge installation such as  Mr. Samuels  referred to
was one  of these  horror spots, and there  are  many others;
an  ammonia plant is  quite noisy  because  of the  combustion
of gases, the pumps,  the  compressors, and so on.
  It isn't a simple problem, we  know that, but we  also  know
that until steps are taken to alleviate  it and  control  it, nothing
is going to be  done.
  Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much, gentlemen.
  We look forward to seeing  you  tomorrow. Mr. Goodfriend?
Mr. Goodfriend is going to give a presentation regarding some
studies  of noise  emanating from  industrial operations. Lou,
nice to  have   you here,  sir,  and  we  look  forward  to your
remarks.

             STATEMENT OF LOUIS GOODFRIEND,
            L S. GOODFRIEND, AND ASSOCIATES
  Mr.  GOODFRIEND. Thank  you very much.
  Before I take a look at the formal  remarks, which you have
copies  of,  I should point out  that  there is  a program  going
on  right now  under EPA  to  take  a  look at industrial  noise
sources,  the  levels out-of-doors,  within  the  plant  boundaries,
the levels  in  the  community due  to  these  plant sources,  the
effects on  the  people, the  plant neighborhood and  community
ground, to assess the current activity in noise abatement with-
in the  industries,  to  assess  the  state of the  art  and  noise
abatement technology,  and  to  assess  the  regulatory  activity,
or report on regulatory  activity which is  currently going  on.
This is  a  continuing  program which, as you know, has just
been initiated.  I am going to  report on a  few of the  basic
ideas involved. -
  Although it  is  well  known  that many  types  of  industries
make noise and that some members  of  the  community  object
to some industrial noises while other  neighbors  do  not,  there
has  not to date been  a systematic program to examine  the
nature of industrial noise and the noise effects.
  An examination  of my own prior work  with  industrial and
community clients  and  the  current EPA sponsored  projects do
clearly outline the  nature  and scope of our present knowledge in
this field.
  Industries  for our  purposes may  be broadly divided  into
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      2. Process plants.
      3. Utility  plants.
  In all of these  industries are to be found  only  a few basic
types of noise sources. The major noise source categories are:
      1. Power  sources—including  motors,  engines,  heaters,
    furnaces, and  generators.
      2. Impact sources—including forgehammers, riveting tools
    impact hard tools, piledrivers, ore crushers.
      3. Cooling and ventilating equipment such as fans, blowers,
    and cooling towers.
      4. High-pressure gas and airflow systems such as valves,
    air inlets, and high-pressure discharges  to the atmosphere.
      5. Materials handling including cranes, chutes, conveyor
    buckets, and  the materials themselves,  such as steel parts
    impacting on each other, or structural  steel sections being
    loaded or unloaded, and  high-speed, high-pressure blowers
    of many types.
  Surveying the communities around  a number of  plants  in-
dicates  that  noise level or  loudness—if you will—is  not the
controlling  factor  influencing  the  acceptability of  the noise
in the  community. Furthermore, not  every machine  of  the
same size  and capacity is used the same way and no  two are
located  in  the  same  manner  with respect to the community.
  An examination of my  own files of  industrial  noise complaint
situations and information acquired in EPA's  program  do show
a few trends:
      1. Industry's neighbors in the community may not  object to
    industrial noise even  at fairly high levels,  («)  If it is con-
    tinuous,  (b)  if it does not interfere with speech communica-
    tion,  (c) if it does not include pure tones or impacts,  (d)
    if it does not vary rapidly,  (e) if it does not interfere with
    getting to sleep, and (/) if it does not contain fear-producing
    elements.
      2. Sometimes  political,  social,  economic,  or  interper-
    sonal  situations  develop  where the  presence of the noise
    in  the neighboring community is  the  substitute focus for
    what might  otherwise  lead to unacceptable  consequences.
      3. It  also  appears  that single individuals  or  families
    may be  annoyed by  an industrial noise that does not an-
    noy any other plant neighbors.  This  in many  cases  can
    be traced to unusual exposure conditions or to interpersonal
    situations involving plant management personnel.
  Industry has been responsive in varying degrees to community
pressure to  eliminate sources  of  complaint.  Although  consid-
erable noise abatement technology is  available today,  knowledge
of such technology varies widely Avithin the same industry,  and
similarly response with a single product industry will vary greatly.
  I do believe that the day is past when a  complaint is passed
off  as   an  eccentric  to be tolerated  and  humored. However,
I have  noted that the cost problem  can create problems for
individual  companies  where  a competitive  pricing  situation
exists.  Here  there  is  a need for industrywide controls.  In fact,
the best solution will  probably  come  on  an industrywide basis
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   Returning  for a  moment  to  the  behavioral  problems,  it
should be noted  that one or two articulate complainants or po-
litically effective complainants  can polarize a  community.  This
again  indicates  a  need for  definitive  standards by  which  to
judge industrial  as well as other noise exposures.
   Looking  for  a moment  at the  current capability  in  noise
control, it is  possible to find  many muffling  and noise control
systems. Many  are still crude,  and they  do  not eliminate the
noise at the  source,  but as an example, a gas  turbine  gener-
ator can  currently be quieted  by enclosing  it  inside a  noise
control  structure with  suitable inlet and exhaust mufflers. The
cost per unit is high,  so  high in fact that reduction of noise
within the  turbine itself might be amortized  by the  reduction
in muffling  expense. Other examples can easily be cited. Clearly
there  are  many tradeoffs  in  the noise  abatement process.
Switching processes  might be  less expensive than  muffling an
existing system.  Besides hardware, there is a  moderate volume
of  noise  control engineering  going  on  in  many  industries.
Some companies have  staff personnel  or work with university
faculty  members  in  applying  current  technology  in  the  area
of source noise reduction.  This is not a  high-technology  area
and so far there is little fallout from the military and  aerospace
fields.
   The needs at present are:
      1. To quantify the  community  response not on the ba-
    sis  of complaint versus noise level but on the  basis of all
    the variables.
      2. To disseminate information on the current engineering
    aspects of noise abatement technology as well as the hardware
    aspects.
      3. To involve  industries  as  units  through their associ-
    ations  in  advancing  the   state   of  the  art  of   noise
    abatement.
      4. To  develop guidelines  for   industry  on  community
    noise exposure.
      5. To develop a model industrial noise performance  regu-
    lation that  will enable industry to survive economically as
    quiet neighbors.
      6. To develop  suitable  urban and  regional planning  con-
    cepts that will integrate compatible industries into new and
    redeveloped areas without destroying any  citizen's equities
    in so doing.
      7. To stimulate  and initiate  new efforts in developing
    noise abatement  and to encourage  and accellerate existing
    research and development  in noise  abatement.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Goodfriend.  If I
heard you the way I  think  I heard you,  in your  short and suc-
cinct  statement,  you, in effect, said the  same  priorities  and
the same  problems exist with this aspect of community  noise
as are associated in the main  with the aircraft  and airport
noise problem.
  Mr. GOODFRIEND. You are quite right; to put it  simply, we
are all in the same boat.  We have—we do  need to determine
what  the  factors are that  make people respond negatively to
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  Dr.  MEYER.  Thank  you,  sir.  Panel on  the  right?
   (No response.)
  Panel on  the left?
  Professor PLACER. Just a short question for you, Mr. Good-
friend ; who is "we" in that sentence? Where does the responsibility
lie for coming to grips  with  this  range of problems ? Do you have
any thoughts on that subject?
  Mr.  GOODFRIEND.  Yes; I  think  that  the current action by
EPA  acting as a catalyst-coordinator and adviser,  and  sup-
porting research is  probably the best thing that  we can  do.
I have seen other  organizations, other  Federal agencies,  but
they cover a narrow segment of the problem, and  as I  under-
stand  EPA's charge is to  look at the entire  problem and co-
ordinate  it,  coordinate their work with  the  interagency noise
abatement-transportation  noise  panel and so  forth.
  Professor PLACER. Do you see in the future regulatory  pro-
grams developing to  deal  with  these  problems?  And  if  so,
again, where  does the general  responsibility  of the  area  fall
there?
  Mr.  GOODFRIEND. I believe that there are regulatory activities
that have to  be taken at every level of government.
  The model laws for zoning may be developed by  the Fed-
eral  agencies,  but these should  be  promulgated at the  State,
county, and  municipal  levels.
  Mr.  HINTON. Mr.  Goodfriend, I would  like  to just say  that
I completely agree with your call for comprehensive community
planning  where  you  would have your   development  planned
in a way  that  you don't have one  use  conflicting with another
in the vicinity. I would like to know, I would like to know your
No. 1 need that you call for is to quantify community response
on  the basis  of  complaint versus noise  levels.
  Would you,   without—would  you  let  community  response,
would  you first need to quantify this response before  initiating
action  programs?
  Mr.  GOODFRIEND.  I  believe we  do have to  quantify the  re-
sponse. It may not  be—we are  currently  doing  it,  the current
tendency  is to  look at those,  at  the situations which cause
complaint, and then develop some kind  of a  patch  that  will
just reduce  the situation, the noise, or the pure tone, or what-
ever,  to just below  the complaint threshold,  and I think  this
is the  wrong approach. I think  we want to find out the  reason
for complaint, and it may not be level; it may be something else.
  Mr.  HINTON. I know it's wise to be able to know  more  ex-
act knowledge  about what  the  problem is in  terms of  human
reaction,  both  physical and psychological;  however, I have
something, I am somewhat construed with the  sense of urgency
here,  and I think  the problems are pretty self-evident,  and
we don't have to get down to the  last number in the quantification
process prior to working at the top, you know.
  Mr. GOODFRIEND. I am in complete agreement. I think we know
the reason  I   listed, on  these  reasons,  that  industrial noise
can occur at  fairly high  levels without  complaint if  it  was
not, if it's continuous,  and  if it doesn't interfere with speech.
  The reason  I listed  those things is  that we  know that  we
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 are currently some techniques that give us very broad answers
 we can use.
   Let's start with those, but let's continue to move on and get the
 detailed facts so  that in the long term we  can do a much better
 job of planning.
   I don't think we know as much as we ought to. We can put in
 buffer zones, but we  are going to be making those buffer zones
 bigger than we need to, and this has a strong economic impact on
 the community involved.
   Dr.  MEYER. Thank  you  very much.  We  appreciate  your
 thoughts and your presentation,  and look forward to  working
 with you  further on  this.  I would now  like to  ask Mr. Harter
 M. Rupert, of the Federal  Highway Administration  to  come
 forward.  Mr. Rupert has  written  a number  of  papers  with
 regard to problems of noise associated  with highway and  auto-
 mobile transportation and is setting the stage  for information
 from  some  presentations from the automobile  industry regard-
 ing what it can do  about the source of noise that he is  going to
 talk about.
   We  thought it would be useful to have him and  a  repre-
 sentative of the  Highway  Research  Board present to the panel
 some basic information. Glad to have you here.
   Mr.  RUPERT.  Thank you.  If you will stay  with me,  I  will
 try to proceed rapidly, and I think  I  can get  my remarks in
 in a very few moments.

             STATEMENT OF HARTER M. RUPERT,
            FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION
   [Showing of first slide  in series.]
   Mr.  RUPERT.  We are witnessing the beginnings of an  all-
 out effort  to  control  noise. This  effort  is  part of the overall
 response of government,  industry,  and institutions  of higher
 learning to the  public's  expression  of  deep concern  for  the
 environment.
   [Showing of next slide  in series.]
   Traffic  noise has been   identified  in  several  surveys as  the
 most  disturbing  or  annoying  noise  in residential areas.   Al-
 though  the  noise from traffic may be  often bothersome, there
 are no indications that the levels  are sufficiently high  to cause
 hearing loss.  It  is  generally well  known that  thousands of
 people have voluntarily built, bought,  or  rented dwellings in
 areas   having noise  levels higher  than  many of  us  would
 consider desirable.
  Does this mean that nothing should be done  to control  traffic
noise? Of course not. Some useful analogies can be drawn between
noise and floods, even though the undesirable consequences of floods
are much more obvious and more easily identified. For  many of
this country's developing years, large numbers of people settled
and developed the flood plains of our streams and rivers.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Usually,  this was done with the knowledge  that the water-
course would  periodically  overflow its  banks with consequent
impact on  the  settlers. This does not mean that it was  good
for them  or  that  some other segment of  the public should

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be expected to endure the same  hardships. So  it is  with noise.
Although, some segments  of  the  public appear willing  to  vol-
untarily  reside in areas where noise levels are  high, we can-
not responsibly expect the entire  public to accept  these noise
levels.
  It should not be inferred that highway engineers, administrators,
and professionals have done a less than adequate job. Quite the
contrary. No other public works program known to man can match
the achievements of  this  Nation's highway program. The  im-
portant thing  to remember is the shifting of goals and priorities.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  In the 1920's and  1930's we were attempting to  establish a
nationwide system of roads and provide all-weather surfaces. In
the 1940's and 1950's, as the demand for mobility increased,
traffic volume  and speed increased. As a result, greater emphasis
was placed  on the needs of the  traveling public by providing:
Stronger and  wider pavements, increased sight distance, flatter
horizontal curves, grade separation structures, and limited access
highways.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  During the  1960's, emphasis was placed on safety and  beauty.
The emphasis of the  1970's is concern for  the environment.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The  highway program will respond  to this  emphasis  just as
well as it has to  those of past decades.
  The  highway-related noise problem is very complex, so there
are no quick  or  simple  solutions. The  control  of this nuisance
will require the concerted  and coordinated  efforts of many pro-
grams, agencies, firms, and individuals.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  There  is good  reason  to believe that quieter vehicles  can be
manufactured. Apparently there  has  not  been  sufficient con-
sumer  demand  for  the  manufacturing  industry to  produce
quieter vehicles. In a  competitive industry  where a  few dollars
differential would place  a  competitor in an advantageous posi-
tion, an individual firm finds difficulty justifying added costs for
characteristics for  which  consumers  apparently are unwilling
to pay. We don't seem to mind a  little noise when we are behind
the wheel. In the case of  many motorcycle, sport  car,  hotrod,
and truck operators, noise is  considered an asset rather than a
liability.
  If the  manufacturing  industry  were furnished  reasonable
noise criteria  which would be uniformly applied to all manu-
facturers, improvement could be obtained  without jeopardizing
the sales and  profits of any individual firm.
  The  President has  recommended  Federal  legislation which
would  enable this control. A bill has been introduced in Congress
to provide  this  authority to  the  Environmental  Protection
Agency. This is a desirable and needed approach.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  If the manufacture of quieter  vehicles  were required, there
is no assurance that  they  would remain quiet. Many instances
can  be observed every day where vehicles are  operated with
malfunctioning or modified mufflers  or otherwise behaving in
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require that a vehicle not be operated without  a muffler or in a
manner  which creates loud or excessive noise. The  determina-
tion of what is loud or excessive requires a  subjective determi-
nation on  the part  of an enforcement official. As  a  result, en-
forcement  is difficult  and ineffective. This is like having  speed
laws which advise the driver not to drive too fast.
   California has taken the lead in adoption  of numerical noise
level  limits  for motor vehicles.  Enforcement  is  achieved  with
noise level meters in a manner similar to the radar meters used
in  speed control. There are  other  States and some localities
which have  enacted similar  laws and still  others which  have
such legislation under consideration.
   The Federal Highway Administration  recommends  State and
local  enactment  and  enforcement  of  numerical noise   level
limits. We are presently seeking possible means  of further en-
couragement.
   It should  be  obvious that reduction of the  noise  which the
vehicle  creates  will not  eliminate  all highway  related  noise
problems.  There  are  practical limits  on the  extent  to  which
noise from vehicles  (and aircraft)  can be lowered.
   [Showing  of next slide in series.]
   We should not expect to get  away with  construction  of an
amphitheater near an airport or  adjacent to a heavily traveled
freeway. The same  is true of some types of  single family  resi-
dences, some types of schools, hospitals, and many other types of
land use.
   [Showing  of next slide in series.]
  Many years ago we  learned that we had to prohibit most kinds
of development in flood plains subject to frequent and severe flood-
ing. Now is the time to consider similar land use control in areas
where noise is a problem.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The lands need not necessarily remain vacant. Most commercial
and industrial activities can be made to conform to a noisy en-
vironment. Many other types of  activities can be accommodated
through proper site location, building design, and acoustical treat-
ment.
  Sometimes the local officials who  control  land  use,  planning,
and zoning are  not aware  of the  potential noise in these  situ-
ations. In  other instances  they  are subject  to local  pressures
which are difficult, if not impossible to resist.
  Transportation officials must continue to cooperate  with  local
officials, informing them of potential areas of incompatibility, and
helping to  plan compatible activities. In addition, a national land
use policy, with built-in incentives to localities is  needed  to in-
sure compatible land use development.
   The  Congress has directed the undertaking of some  enormous
tasks with  the  enactment  of  the  Federal-aid  Highway  Act of
1970. One of these tasks is the development  of  guidelines to
assure that adequate consideration is given to the social, economic,
and environmental effects in  the Federal-aid  highway program.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   One  of the specific effects the Congress wanted included is
noise.  In addition to  guidelines,  the  Congress asked for  the
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future Federal-aid  highways would be compatible with various
types of land use.  Each of these efforts is  well  underway and
there should be no difficulty meeting the  July 1,  1972  deadline
established by Congress.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  There is great potential in the guidelines and standards efforts
for  further increasing the  highway program's  responsiveness
to the  current concern for the  environment. However,  great
care must be taken to be certain that they are  not so severe
as to cause a serious impediment to the highway program. We
must seek that balance of control, flexibility,  and pragmatism
which will  be effective in  reducing the effects  of  noise and
still  permit construction of the highway improvements which the
public expects.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The noise guidelines are expected to be a procedure for analysis
of noise impacts. Included in the  analysis would be:  (a) Deter-
mination of existing  noise levels, (6)  inventory of noise sensi-
tive  land  uses  or activities,  (c)  prediction of  anticipated  noise
levels  from the proposed  highway project,  and  (d)  study of
noise abatement alternatives. The results  of  the analysis would
be furnished  to the  decisionmaker together  with the  analyses
of other social, economic,  and environmental effects to provide a
more comprehensive basis for making highway  decisions.
  The noise standards  are expected to be  numerical noise  levels
(in  decibels using  the  A-weighted scale)  for various land  uses
and  activities. There  will be different values  for day  and night,
and  there will be both average and peak noise levels. Since many
activities  take place primarily indoors,  and  since  there is wide
variation  in types  of building  construction (causing  wide  vari-
ation in sound transmission loss)  different  values will be pro-
vided for both indoors and outdoors.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  There are several opportunities available for control  of  noise
during the development of a highway  project.  During the loca-
tion  studies, the potential noise impact of each  alternative aline-
ment can  be determined. From a noise  standpoint, the alinement
having the least noise impact should be selected. In other words,
if all  other effects were  equal, the  one having the least  noise
impact should be selected. Of course  all other effects are seldom
equal,  which  makes  final  decisions  difficult.  The  important
thing  here is to provide the  decisionmaker  with the  greatest
possible  array of  social,  economic,  and  environmental effects
(including noise  impact)  so that the final  decision  will  be a
better informed one.  In  addition,  advantage  should be taken
of terrain and natural and manmade barriers to shield sensitive
areas from noise.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  The purchase of  highway  rights-of-way offers an opportunity
to acquire wide buffer zones on either  side of highway. A rela-
tively wide buffer area  would be required,  so it  is rather obvious
that  this  approach is limited to those instances  where land is
undeveloped,   fairly  inexpensive,  and  where  noise  sensitive
land uses might someday intrude, so that the houses that you

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see here with the red X's [indicating] would never get built—not
that we would advocate acquiring those homes.
   The design of a  highway  offers additional  opportunities for
control of highway related noise.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The advantages  of a depressed roadway  can be  considered.
It is  unlikely that  any roadway would ever  be depressed  solely
to obtain a reduction in noise. However, if a depressed roadway
is being considered for other reasons,  it should  be recognized
that the noise level could be reduced  by at least half.
   The same noise level  reduction can be obtained by construct-
ing a noise barrier at much less cost.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   To be effective, the barrier must  intercept  the line of sight
between the  noise  source  and the recipient. The barrier  could
be an earth  dike,  a masonry or concrete wall, or  other  solid
massive material. Not  many of these barriers have been con-
structed, but some of those which have are very effective and
attractive.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   Landscape plantings  are an  aesthetic  asset to  almost any
highway setting.  A screen  of plantings offers psychological
benefits (out of sight, out of  mind),  but very little actual noise
reduction.  Dense plantings 300 to 500 feet in width  can reduce
noise levels by half.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   Some  noise  reduction  can  be  obtained   by avoiding  steep
roadway grades  and by  holding their length  to  a minimum.
The use of "quiet"  pavement surfaces can also  provide noise re-
duction,  but on high-speed  freeways,  there  may  be adverse
effects on safety.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The accomplishment of all the foregoing measures will not be
sufficient to solve every noise problem.  New acoustic materials
are needed for  highway  work. They must be  durable, attractive,
economical, and easily  cleaned. In some cases  (tunnel linings)
they must also be able to reflect light.
   We need to find a way to get truck  exhaust stacks closer to the
ground so  that low  barriers will be  more effective. We need to
develop pavement surfaces that are both quiet  and safe.
   Finally, we need  a last resort capability, which  could be  used
when all other techniques  are inadequate or  uneconomical.  Pos-
sible approaches might include authority to purchase  noise ease-
ments or noise rights,  the outright purchase of a property,
or installation of noise insulation.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   One way to  sum  up the main items previously stated  is to
give a recipe for "QUIET."
    "Q" Quiet vehicle manufacture.
    "U"  Uniform  numerical noise  level laws for  States and
          localities.
    "I"  Improved land use control.
    "E"  Evaluation of noise in development of highway projects.
    "T" Techniques not yet available.

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  It should be  readily apparent that the  highway program and
the administrators, engineers and other professionals who con-
duct it cannot administer this recipe  alone. Help is needed from
other agencies  (both government and private), from industry,
and  from concerned individuals.  We intend to  do our share  in
the highway  program, and ask you to do  yours.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank  you very  much  for  an  illuminated and
illuminating  presentation.  I  would like to ask you if you can
make it available  to us, either Xerox copies  or some copies  of
those illustrations, so  they may  appear with the printed form
of the transcript.
  Mr. RUPERT. Surely.
  Dr. MEYER. If  it's at all  possible, I think that  they add  a
great deal to your presentation, sir, and I would	
  Mr. RUPERT. Surely.
  Dr. MEYER.  Like to have them in the record that  goes  to
Congress."
  Mr. RUPERT.  All right.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel, any questions?
  Professor  KERREBROCK.  Is it  part of your  concern to ask
whether a highway should be built  in the first place, or should
be replaced by some form of mass  transit—and if not, whose is it?
  Mr. RUPERT. At the present time this is  a responsibility  of
primarily the State and local governments. We operate largely a
grant—in fact,  entirely a grant and  aid program. We do require
that any, that before we can approve any project in an urbanized
area, that that project must be  based on  a  comprehensive,
cooperative,  continuing transportation  planning process which
has  been  established in all  urbanized  areas,  and this  process
is made up  by representatives of State  and local governments,
which make their  recommendations  as to the transportation fa-
cilities that they feel are needed in that particular urbanized area.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Will you then,  in  the future, require
that noise be a  consideration in that preliminary decision?
  Mr. RUPERT. In the transportation  planning process?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Mr. RUPERT.  This will be a part of our guidelines	
  Professor  KERREBROCK.  OK.
  Mr. RUPERT.  On noise.
  There  will be sections  in  the  guidelines on planning and  on
project development after  a  decision is made to go ahead with
the project.
  Mr. HINTON. Mr. Rupert, I thought  your presentation was
excellent. I am  really impressed that the highway administration
has such a good handle on this particular problem. I was wonder-
ing,  are you, in fact,  doing these things today, requiring that
there be this  kind  of design consideration  made?
  Now I notice you were concerned about the effect  of the high-
way construction  and operations  subsequently on the  surround-
ing  areas, and you  mentioned  building code  ordinances,  or
sound insulation  in structures bordering the  highway, which
I think is a natural requirement,  but I don't know of any where
this  is being done except  maybe you might be  able to tell us.
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  Mr.  RUPERT. Well, I might mention that we have really just
recently gotten into this  program,  the  whole  noise  business.
In  fact, I think  this  is pretty much true  nationwide of  all
programs.
  To date we  have done very  little that is concrete, and  the
whole  thing really has the  full  impact of—it has hit us in  the
last 6  months, since the passage of the Highway Act, and  the
Congress has  forced us to  move,  and we have recognized that
we can't do it all  alone, and if the highway noise problem is
going to be licked, then most of the items that I have mentioned
in my  recipe have got  to be tackled.
  Mr.  HINTON. I would think there is a tremendous incentive in
the  provision  of  highway  funds  for the State or county,  or
whatever is doing the highway construction, to take  into account
these other factors,  as an incentive to get the Federal funds.
  Mr.  RUPERT. Except usually the highway  funds  are adminis-
tered by the States, and the land use control is administered local-
ly.  Now, the localities derive  from powers from the State, and
I guess ultimately  you could  go that route.  It might put a  lot
of people in very much of a bind.
  Dr.  MEYER.  Anybody else?  Well, thank you for  a very, as I
said, illuminated  and illuminating presentation. I look forward
to working closely with you. I presume that when you said you
didn't  have much  in  concrete,  you  were talking  about  noise
matters, not highways.
  Mr. RUPERT. That's right.
  Dr.  MEYER.  Our next witness  is  Mr. William   Carey,  the
executive director of the Highway Research Board for  the National
Research  Council, who will describe briefly  what  is going  on
under  a very  aggressive effort  in this area of  noise. Glad  to
have you here, sir. I am sorry we are a little late, but I am sure
you understand our problems.
  Mr.  CAREY. It's quite all right.

             STATEMENT OF WILLIAM N. CAREY,
                HIGHWAY RESEARCH BOARD
  I am William Carey of the Highway Research Board.
  Thus far today,  testimony  has  been directed  to  the specific
problems of transportation  noise,  and to  potential  solutions  in-
volving technology, regulation, legislation, and the like.
  My assignment has been to  explain something of the Highway
Research Board, its position in the transportation community,  its
activities related to environmental problems—particularly noise—
and  its availability as a potential home for certain types  of
activities that don't readily fit elsewhere.
  I  think  this information, which  is included in  some detail
in my  prepared testimony,  may have some  value to the Panel
when it is making its  in-depth  considerate studies  of matters,
but the general public  in an open hearing, I  believe  others have
more information of more urgent interest.
  Further, as it will be clear, I am not in any sense an authority
on noise, but rather cover,  thinly, if you will, the  entire field
of transportation research.
  The  scope and  activities of the Highway  Research Board  of
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areas of involvement the Board has concerned itself with trans-
portation noise. Several  projects have  been undertaken  by the
Board in this area. One, Transportation  Noise Research Infor-
mation Service  involves  a  computer-based  information storage
and  retrieval system and  the preparation of  syntheses.   The
national cooperative highway research program  has  completed
several projects: One on measurement  and simulation of noise,
one  on effects of  highway  landscape,  one a  design  guide for
highway engineers and  one  on legal  implications of noise.  The
Board's potential  for additional work in  this area is  described.
  I have  been asked to  explain something  of the Highway Re-
search Board, its position in the transportation community, its
activities  related to environmental problems,  particularly noise,
and  its  availability  as  a potential home for certain types of
activities  that don't readily fit elsewhere.
  The scope of  the Board's  activities is quite specific and  quite
broad. It  states  that the Board  will:
  Give attention to all factors pertinent to the understanding, devising and
functioning of highway and urban transportation systems and their interrela-
tionships with other aspects of total transportation. It will concern itself with
the planning, design, construction, operation, maintenance, and safety of
facilities and their components; the economics, financing, and administration
of the systems and their interactions with the  physical, economic, legal, and
social environments they are designed to serve.

  Less formally, that means we are to concern ourself with every
aspect of highway and  urban transportation  and  their  inter-
actions with  other modes  of  transportation  and other social
and  economic institutions. We are not  involved with  air traffic,
intercity rail, maritime affairs or pipelines,  except as they inter-
act or interface with highways and  urban  transportation.
  The Highway Research Board  is a unit  of the National Re-
search  Council, which  is the  operating arm  of the National
Academy of Sciences and the  National Academy of  Engineer-
ing.  The Academy is a nongovernmental, nonprofit organization
chartered by Congress over a hundred years ago to advise the
Government  and others  on all  matters of  science and technol-
ogy.  Within the Academy structure, there are several units  with
concern for  the environment;  perhaps the most  widely  known
is the Environmental Studies Board that prepared the report on
the  airport  in  Jamaica  Bay. Many  other  Academy  units are
involved one way  or another. I am prepared to discuss only the
Highway Research Board.
  Traditionally,  the Highway Research Board, which  is now 50
years  old. has  served as an information transfer  agency  and
correlation service primarily in the field of  highway research.
Continuing  support for  its  activities comes from the 50 State
highway  departments,  the   Federal  Highway  Administration,
and  the  Urban  Mass  Transportation  Administration  of  the
Department  of  Transportation, and hundreds  of governmental
agencies at  all  levels,  industries, universities,  and individuals
in this country,  and roughly  60 foreign  countries.  The  bulk
of the support for regular technical activities, about 80 percent,
comes from the  first-named agencies—the State  highway depart-
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  Regular technical activities include field visits to highway de-
partments, universities, industrial organizations and others by a
staff  of highly competent  professionals covering  all  facets of
highway transportation, during wich information as to problems
and potential solutions is exchanged. Also included  are meetings
and seminars on a  wide variety of  transportation-related tech-
nical  subjects, an extensive committee structure, involving some
120 committees and panels, with over 1,800 members from  gov-
ernment,  industry, universities, et cetera. This activity includes
a library, and an extensive computer-based  information  storage
and retrieval system that covers quite comprehensively  Ameri-
can and foreign transportation  research literature  that relates
to highways and urban transportation. This information system
also includes coverage of some 9,000 ongoing research projects in
our field of interest in the United States and some 58 other coun-
tries.  Another feature of this  program is the publication of some
13,000 pages of technical reports and papers each year. I report
these  things to insure that you  understand that transportation
noise, or  in fact, transportation vis-a-vis the environment, are
important but  relatively small  parts  of the overall  Highway
Research  Board's activities.
  In  addition to  the  50-year-old  regular  technical  activities
of  the  Highway Research  Board, we maintain  two  other di-
visions that  are involved  in  contract  research  work.  One of
these  is our Division of  Special Projects under which we  per-
form  in-house  research  work  under  contract  to  government
agencies  and  others.  The other  is the  national  cooperative
highway  research  program that we administer for the State
highway  departments.  In this  program the  research work is
subcontracted to outside agencies.
  In its special projects division, the Board undertakes work of a
type particularly suited to the National Research Council. It  does
not compete with the research community at  large, in fact, it will
only propose on a sole-source  basis. Much of the work in recent
years  in this Division has involved the development of information
systems. Included is the highway information  system mentioned
above, a transportation research  information system for DOT, a
safety information  system, a maritime research information  sys-
tem, and a transportation noise information  system about which
we  will speak later.  The information activities of this Division
involve worldwide international exchange. The Board is the Ameri-
can center for a very extensive international network on transpor-
tation research information.
  In the national cooperative  highway research board  program,
the board  subcontracts about $2.5 million per year of research on
a wide  variety  of  problems.  The problems  are  selected  by the
sponsors,  the State  highway  departments.  Once problems have
been chosen,  the Highway Research Board advisory panels write
requests for proposals, review  proposals, select  research agencies,
monitor the research, and review final reports.  This  program has
been in operation for roughly 8 years; to date, some  176 research
projects have been  undertaken at an  overall  cost of $19 million;
117 reports have been published. Some of the work has been in the
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  I have  taken so  much of your time  to  describe  the gen-
eral  nature and functions of the  Highway Research  Board in
order to place in context  our activities related to transportation
noise  and  because I  believe that there may be other environ-
mental  concerns  where  transportation  is  involved that  would
lend  themselves  to  study  within  this  organization.  The  Na-
tional  Research Council  and its units have  a reputation for
objectivity and freedom  from  bias  that  makes  them  ideally
suited  for work  in  which  many  Government agencies  must
sit down  together and  in which men and women from widely
different  disciplines  can  talk to each other freely and  openly.
No empires are built here. Good people are attracted to  serve
on Research Council committees and  they concern themselves
with the  issues. I do not suggest that there could not be  some
other place where these things could happen—only that I  know
from personal  experience that they do  happen in the National
Research  Council and  in  the  Highway  Research  Board.  Of
course,  I  know that  there have  been  exceptions where all was
not sweetness  and light; perhaps they were  needed  to prove
the rule.
  Now in  the framework that I have described, I would like to tell
you about the specific activities of the Highway Research  Board
related  to transportation noise.  One  important project  that is
being done in-house under  our  Special Projects Division  is the
Transportation Noise Research Information  Service  (TNRIS).
The TNRIS program involves the creation of a computerized in-
formation storage and  retrieval system containing resumes of
research projects, abstracts of research reports, articles, and other
documents related to  the general subject of transportation noise.
New additions to the TNRIS information file are reflected in the
semiannual HRB publication called "Transportation Noise Bulle-
tin." The first or developmental issue of the  "Transportation Noise
Bulletin"  was published during March  of this year and received a
very favorable  response from people in this country and abroad
who  are working  on the  transportation noise  problem. Regular
publication of  the "Transportation Noise  Bulletin" will begin
on a  semiannual  basis this fall.  A copy  of the developmental
issue  has  been filed  with my testimony.  This issue is  out of
print,  but the  complete  file will be  reproduced in  the  first
regular issue this fall.
  Another function of the Board's Transportation Noise Research
Information Service  is to  draft and disseminate special informa-
tion synthesis reports on selected aspects of transportation noise.
The reports seek to define the state of the art of the subject matter
covered by the synthesis study and to provide a benchmark for the
implementation of policies and procedures. The preparation of the
first of these  synthesis studies on  transportation noise  is cur-
rently  under way. It deals primarily with motor vehicle and
traffic  noise measurement. Additional  synthesis studies on  other
topics  are contemplated.
  The   various  activities  of  the  Transportation  Noise  Re-
search  Information   Service are guided  and  assisted by the
Board's  Advisory  Committee  on  Transportation  Noise.  This
special  committee is composed  of 11 experts  in  the  transpor-
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the TNRIS program,  it is  charged with the responsibility for
developing recommendations for research and  development ac-
tivities that may lead to the  implementation, within the transpor-
tation  community,  of policies,  standards,  and  procedures  for
alleviating transportation noise. The recommendations of the Ad-
visory Committee  are  directed primarily to the Office  of  Noise
Abatement of the  Office  of  the Assistant Secretary for Systems
Development and Technology of the U.S. Department of Transpor-
tation which  provides financial support for the TNRIS program.
  Another major activity of the Highway Research  Board related
to noise may be found in the national cooperative highway research
program described above. You will recall that this program  is ad-
ministered by the Board and supported on a continuing basis with
funds from the  State  highway departments. Over  the past few
years,  the NCHRP  has   supported  several  major  contract
research efforts related to the general subject of highway noise.
  One of these NCHRP studies dealt with highway noise measure-
ment, highway noise simulation and indices of human response to
highway noise. Also included in the report of this study  are com-
ments  on major motor vehicle noise sources and  comments  on
legislative attempts to control motor vehicle noise. NCHRP report
No. 78 on this project has been filed with the EPA and copies are
available at the Highway Research Board.
  Several  other NCHRP studies  have concentrated on  other
aspects of  highway noise. One of these studies (see NCHRP re-
port No.  75, filed with the EPA and available at the Highway Re-
Research Board) examined  the effect of highway  landscape de-
velopment on nearby property by correlating highway design and
landscape treatment, property valuation and  community interview
data with headlight annoyance, noise, vibration, and air pollution.
The study  report concluded, not surprisingly, that truck noise is
the most objectionable highway disturbance to persons living next
to limited-access highways.  Another NCHRP study reviewed the
legal implications of the valuation and compensability of highway-
generated noise,  pollution, and other environmental  factors. That
study concluded that under American law, there can generally be
no recovery for damages which are caused by highway-produced
noise, air,  or water pollution—or  other similar environmental
factors—unless a portion of the  landowner's property is actually
taken for highway  construction.  This report has not been  pub-
lished but a draft copy has been  filed  with the EPA.
  Just within the last  few days, the report  of a fourth NCHRP
study of  highway noise was released. This report provides a de-
sign guide  for traffic noise prediction that is arranged in "cook-
book" rather  than  acoustical textbook form, so that the  highway
designer  with no experience in  acoustics will be able to use it
readily and effectively. The  design  guide is intended to provide
the highway planner with a means for assessing how the introduc-
tion of a new highway will  influence the noise environment near
the proposed highway and  for  assessing how people living  or
working  near the highway  will  react to the new noise  environ-
ment. This report, NCHRP No. 117, is also available and  has been
filed with the EPA. In addition to the report, a "highway noise"
tape recording has been produced  to assist engineers  in  their
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significance is of changing noise levels by various amounts, and
how motor vehicle noise varies with traffic flow conditions. Loan
copies of the tape recording, "Illustrative Recording of  Traffic
Noise,"  are available on  request  from the  Highway Research
Board.
  Finally, a fifth NCHRP study of highway noise is currently
under way. At least in its initial stages, this study will involve
field evaluation of existing traffic noise reduction measures at a
number of specially selected sites around the country.
  A third major activity of the Highway Research Board related
to noise is reflected in the work of the Board's standing commit-
tees in  its regular technical activities division. As  mentioned
above, these committees, which include within their membership
over 1,800 of the Nation's top transportation administrators, en-
gineers, social  scientists, and educators, are engaged on  a con-
tinuing  basis in identifying and  evaluating  research needs and
findings. The  committees  also  serve as a  focal point for the
preparation and publication  of papers and for the mutual ex-
change of information.
  A number of these committees have become involved in recent
years  with various facets of highway and urban transportation
environmental  impact.  A list of Highway Research  Board  com-
mittees  that encompass the question of noise within their scope
would include,  in addition to the Advisory Committee on  Trans-
portation Noise mentioned above, the following: The Committee
on  Social, Economic, and Environmental Factors of Transporta-
tion ; the Committee on Geometric Highway Design; the Commit-
tee on Roadside Development; the Committee on Environmental
Issues in Transportation Law; and the Task Force on Highways
and Environment.
   Finally, a fourth major activity of the Highway Research Board
related  to  noise  involves  the  Board's continuing program  of
special meetings, workshops, and conferences. Earlier this  month,
for example, the Board held a 3-day environmental workshop co-
sponsored by the American Association of State Highway Officials
and the Federal Highway Administration of  the U.S. Department
of Transportation at the National Academy of Sciences building in
Washington.
   The efforts  of this environmental  workshop were  divided by
subject  matter  area among eight panels, one of which was devoted
to noise. The  noise panel issued  a report in  which  it discussed
draft guidelines on highway noise that had been prepared by the
Federal Highway Administration under the authority of  section
136 of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1970. The noise panel also
made detailed technical recommendations concerning these guide-
lines and issued a number of general recommendations, including
a recommendation that Federal standards be set  for motor ve-
hicle noise and that States be required, as a prerequisite for ob-
taining Federal-aid  highway funds,  to enact legislation  which
adopts standards and which establishes an  appropriate enforce-
ment program.
   The noise panel also  recommended that highway departments
should  seek  participation  in cooperative planning  and  zoning
efforts with appropriate local authorities in  order to prevent the
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suggested  that  State highway  departments might seek  State
legislation requiring vendors of property near highways to notify
prospective buyers of the existing and predicted future exterior
noise levels on such property, if these noise levels exceed the noise
standards  to  be established  by  the  Federal  Highway  Admin-
istration.
  The  report  of the  environmental workshop is currently  being
prepared and  will be published by the  Board later  this year. In
addition,  plans  are now  being made  for a 3-day conference on
highways and the environment to be held next summer in Madi-
son, Wis. At this stage in the planning, it appears that noise  will
again be a major subject for discussion.
  In closing, I would like to thank the Environmental Protection
Agency for the  opportunity to describe the work of  the Highway
Research Board. Although I am not equipped to discuss the tech-
nical content  of the  reports  of our research work that I have
mentioned, I would be pleased to answer any questions related to
the  Highway  Research  Board, the  National Research Council,
their methods of operation and their potential for work in these
fields.

         EXHIBITS TO ACCOMPANY TESTIMONY OF W. N. CAREY, JR..
                    HIGHWAY RESEARCH BOARD
  1. Transportation Noise Bulletin—Developmental issue, March, 1971.
  2. NCHRP Report  78, Highway Noise—Measurement, simulation,  and
mixed reactions.
  3. NCHRP Report  75, Effect of Highway Landscape Development on
Nearby Property.
  4. NCHRP study (unpublished), Draft Report on Legal  Implications of
the  Valuation and Compensability  of Highway Generated Noise, Pollution,
and Other Environmental Factors.
  5. NCHRP Report  117, Highway Noise—A design  guide for highway
engineers.
  6. The Highway Research Board—What it is and what it  does.
  7. Publications of the  Highway Research  Board.
  8. NCHRP—Description of this program.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, Mr. Carey, particularly not
only for your presentation,  but for the material  you  have sub-
mit'ed, all of which we will incorporate in the record.*
  Also I would  like to request that we might be furnished, when
it becomes available,  with a  copy of the report on the 3-day con-
ference that you mentioned.
  Mr. CAREY.  Very well.
  Dr. MEYER.  We would like to, sometime in Washington, arrange
for our staff to  get together with you  so we might  listen to  this
tape, because we have had a lot of interest and inquiries directed
to us. Panel, any questions?
  Professor KERREBROCK. I have  one very quick question.  Could
you estimate how much is spent on highway research  in the United
States?
  Mr.  CAREY. On highway research, yes;  the question was how
much is  spent on highway research in  the United States, and if
you exclude planning, of which by and large is  an operational
matter, then it's only around $30 or $40 million spent by public
bodies. There is  a good bit more spent by industrial organizations.
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  It's interesting that just about the same amount is spent abroad
as is spent here, and all other countries.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much.  Our next witness is Dr.
Starkman, but some members of my panel have requested that we
take about a 5-minute stretch break in order that they may stand
up and relax for  a  minute, and take care of any environmental
needs that they may have.
   (Short recess.)
  Dr. MEYER. Dr. Starkman, thank you very much for realizing
that we do have some human environmental problems in the panel,
sometimes, and I am very pleased to welcome you here to testify
before this group  regarding the activities of a major segment of
the transportation  industry relating to automobiles and heavy
transportation. We  are grateful  for your  patience  and under-
standing of the reason we are behind schedule so without taking
time away from you, sir, I will invite you to give your information
to us.
  Mr. STARKMAN. Thank you, Dr. Meyer.
  First we should correct that "doctor."
  That "doctor" is neither earned or deserved.
  I am  Ernest Starkman, and vice president for environmental
activities, rather than engineering, at General Motors.
  Dr. MEYER. We have some problems, sometimes, with getting
these typographical  things correct.
  Mr. STARKMAN. I have prepared a  statement which has been
distributed to you. It's much too lengthy to take your time to read
in its entirety here,  but what I will try to do is instead review the
high points of the statement extemporaneously, if I may, and then
I will ask, if  you would like, that I answer questions.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes,  sir; your statement will be  included in the
record, and as I mentioned earlier with other witnesses, the panel-
ists will be reviewing this material for the Government, and we
will  be  collectively  reviewing it, so your time in putting it to-
gether has not been  lost.

   STATEMENT OF ERNEST  S. STARKMAN, GENERAL MOTORS
  Mr. STARKMAN. Mr. Chairman  and  members of the panel, my
name is Ernest S. Starkman and I  am vice president in charge of
environmental activities staff for General Motors. I  am here in
response to your invitation to discuss General Motors' efforts to
reduce noise from new motor vehicles.
   General Motors welcomes this opportunity to comment on the
problems of transportation noise and its control. We have been in-
volved in product  noise control for many years, and thus have con-
siderable experience in  both interior and exterior quieting  of a
wide range of motor vehicles, off-highway  equipment, railbound
vehicles, and stationary devices of many sorts, as well as in test
and  measurement methodology.
   My comments today will  be confined for the most part to  those
areas specifically requested in the invitation to this  hearing;
namely, the  sources of noise from motor  vehicles,  the current
status of vehicle quieting, as well as the economic cost of meeting
various vehicle noise standards.
   Much  of my commentary depends  upon and  is measured by
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tion. My remarks do not necessarily mean that GM endorses these
methods or the regulations. We feel that there is a real need to
improve measurement and assessment techniques and to devise
methods which can be more representative of actual vehicle opera-
tion in the community. But first, let me turn to the various sources
of motor vehicle noise and their relative significance.
  At this point I want to emphasize that for the moment we are
discussing technological  considerations only; the role played by
economics will be discussed later.

                 Sources of Motor Vehicle Noise
Heavy Trucks
  Since most of us consider heavy highway trucks to be a promi-
nent source of transportation noise, allow me to rank the sources
of noise from heavy  trucks by typical sound and intensity, as fol-
lows : Engine exhaust, cooling fan, tires, engine and power train,
and aerodynamic and load noises.
  Exhaust noise is the predominant problem for the  trucks now
in use, but it can be  controlled adequately, we believe,  although at
some  cost penalty to owners, to meet current noise regulation.
Exhaust noise on new heavy duty trucks and truck-tractors has
been controlled at the factory with mufflers designed for the truck,
as opposed to  other  mufflers which the customer may require in
his purchase specification. Consequently,  exhaust noise  on new
trucks as designed  does not represent a significant part of the
problem.
  As  future noise limits are lowered, noise from  the engine cool-
ing fan, which is now overridden by exhaust noise, will become
identified as a major source. However, the control of fan noise is not
as simple and  straightforward an engineering problem as the ex-
haust. Consequently, we anticipate considerable added engineering
effort in the near future to determine how  to accomplish this.
  A conventional approach to reduce fan noise is to increase the
fan and radiator sizes and to turn the fan at a slower speed; how-
ever,  for present truck designs, the fan and radiator  are already
as large as can  be accommodated practically, and any reduction
of fan speed would precipitate cooling problems.
  Other control methods are  now under  experimentation,  and
shrouding or ducting the fan appears promising. Unfortunately,
these  alternatives will require  more space  and none  is available
in  the  most popular  tractor-trailer  configurations used today.
These  short-cab units have been designed  to take advantage of
every bit of space to  provide more payload. If the amount of space
which is necessary to minimize fan noise is  used, it must be taken
from  the trailer length.
  At highway operating speeds, noise from tires is in many cases
one of the major sources of truck noise. The problem is further
complicated by the large  number of tires mounted on typical high-
way trucks and truck-trailer combinations.  In Michigan, for ex-
ample,  many combinations run on  42 tires. The wide range of
tread  designs  produces  a variation  of noise-producing charac-
teristics involved. Even  for the quietest  designs, noise from the
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greater than the noise from all the other properly controlled ve-
hicle sources combined.
  For  comparison purposes,  a conventional  tractor-trailer com-
bination which meets 88 dBA  under SAE test conditions with all
systems operating normally and with 18 "quiet" tires will produce
85 dBA even when coasting by at 50 m.p.h. with the engine off.
  Most significant on the subject of tire noise is the  fact that the
present so-called quiet treads  do not have as much  traction and
therefore as much safety in stopping as do the noisy and  longer
lasting crossbar treads. Thus, lower noise levels at the moment
may be achievable, but perhaps  at  the expense of  some safety.
There are several studies of this problem now under way by the
Society of Automotive Engineers, tire manufacturers,  and under
Department of Transportation contract.
  Mechanical noises from the  engine and other power  train com-
ponents will become significant when the other sources which are
now more prominent have been  reduced. Particularly for diesel
engines, noise radiates from the combustion process  and from in-
ternal  mechanisms. As we testified at the Atlanta regional EPA
hearing, we have identified 12 separate  sources of diesel engine
noise in research recently conducted at the  noise and vibration
laboratory at our Milford Proving Ground in Michigan. As part of
the tests, experimental changes were made to the engine to explore
the possible methods of silencing each source. Although some of
the results show promise, no single change  applied to these 12
sources made a discernable difference in  total engine noise.
  Gear engagement  may lead  to noises from the transmission or
differential assemblies, although this is typically not a  problem at
our current stage of noise control and gear production methods.
  Finally, at highway speeds, aerodynamic, or load  noises—such
as rattling of chains or cargo—can be apparent, though typically
not  a  significant contributor to the noise level of most truck
operations.
  The relative magnitude  of  the engine-initiated sources for a
large diesel-powered truck is shown on figure 1. The levels were
obtained during a  standard  passby test  and are the maximum
values measured at a distance of 50 feet.

Alternatives for Truck Noise Control
  Presently, available control techniques for exhaust noise are
sufficient to hold  the maximum level to 88 dBA. By roughly
doubling the muffler volume  and weight, exhaust noise can be
further reduced. At this point, the cooling fan noise predominates
and limits the level at 86 dBA. In experiments performed for such
purpose, we have found that  by removing the fan  entirely (and
with additional muffling), a  level  of 84 dBA can  be obtained.
Under these circumstances, the noise level is essentially controlled
by other factors. It should also be remembered that tests to evalu-
ate these alternatives are conducted under SAE J366  procedures
which do not involve significantly tire noise at higher speeds.

Accomplishments on Trucks
  In the area of truck quieting, General Motors installed larger
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program involved use of the so-called 125 sone standard.  It was
the result of  several years of study and development by truck
manufacturers and truck operators through their respective trade
associations. Under the program truck manufacturers sought to
improve new trucks with respect to  noise. This gave new truck
purchasers an option to buy quieter trucks if they wished.
  In 1967, California law required that new trucks meet a speci-
fied decibel  limit, which although  higher to begin with,  is now
enforced at 88 dBA. GM trucks for California sale and use  are de-
signed to comply with that limit.
  In addition, General Motors has  developed an optional package
which is now in use to provide a significantly quieter chassis for
refuse collection vehicles.  This package  comprises a muffler  of
roughly  double  the volume of a standard muffler, a full-length
tailpipe, a more effective induction silencer, and acoustical treat-
ment and seals for the engine compartment.

Passenger Cars

  For the largest single class of motor vehicles—passenger cars—
the ranking of noise sources is:  Exhaust, induction, tires,  cooling
fan, engine and power train,  and aerodynamics. Although  the
problems are somewhat different, control of these sources is much
like those from  heavy trucks.
  The relative levels  for various sources  on three different auto-
mobiles are shown  on figure 2.  These levels were obtained  during
the standard  passby noise test  and are maximum levels at  a
distance of 50 feet. It is apparent,  in comparing data from these
three cars, that levels achievable through  control of exhaust noise
vary widely  among vehicles,  as do  induction and engine noise
levels.

Alternatives for Control of Passenger Car Noise

  Using present technology, exhaust noise can  be controlled to
meet presently existing noise regulations.
  In the tests which produced data for figure 2,  just referred to,
typically, one or two  mufflers  were  serially added to  these test
vehicles to reduce the exhaust noise, whereas induction noise was
controlled by larger and more effective air cleaners,  which acted
as silencers.
  While additional mufflers can  be  added  experimentally  for
special test purposes, incorporation of such additional devices on
production vehicles will add cost and necessitate redesign of the
vehicle underbody because of space and possibly some weight re-
quirements.
  It is expected that cooling fan and engine and power train noise
will not be a special problem for passenger cars to meet the present
and near future requirements.
  Noise emanating from the tire-road interface, which is the con-
trolling factor during highway cruise conditions is at somewhat
of a technical impasse at  present. This  impasse, again, is  for
reasons of the traction-noise conflict discussed previously for truck
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Accomplishments on Passenger Cars
  The range of noise levels  for various  operating  modes  of  a
typical  passenger  automobile are shown on figure 3,  levels for
cruise, or steady speed, conditions are seen to  be much less  than
those for full-throttle acceleration. Also, steady-speed noise levels
above 45 m.p.h. or so are controlled almost entirely by the tires.
For such conditions, present exhaust  silencing appears to be
adequate.
  Because vehicles with quiet interiors have an obvious appeal to
the purchaser, control of passenger car interior noise has  been
a major concern for many years. It is felt that our passenger cars
represent no problem in this respect. However, this effort has had
a double benefit, for control of  vehicle interior noise usually has
been  accompanied by reduced exterior noise as well.
  Again, our passenger  vehicles sold in California are designed
and developed  to  meet the  new vehicle  noise law in effect there
for  new vehicles, with  many  vehicles significantly  below the
maximum levels specified. Also, the California standards, both for
new vehicle and passby tests, constitute a significant factor in the
design requirements for all General Motors vehicles manufactured
for sale or import into this country.
  As a final observation on passenger car noise control we  have
tested several models of our 1971 cars with dual exhaust systems,
which systems our customers can purchase as  items of  optional
equipment, depending upon the make and model. In most of these
cases, these cars have passby test noise  levels of 80 dBA or less.
In such cases, it is clear that the additional noise reduction derived
from use of the dual  exhaust system  is  directly related to the
additional cost to the purchaser of the extra equipment.

Buses: Controls, Accomplishments
  Regarding buses, the order of significance of sources is:  Cool-
ing fan, engine and power train, exhaust,  and  possibly tires. The
problems of control of these  sources are the same as  for heavy
trucks.
  The  recently developed  environmental  improvement  package
 (EIP)  for our diesel transit coaches, which was demonstrated to
the Department of Transportation  last year,  although intended
principally for reduction of exhaust emissions and odors, provides
up  to a 10-decibel reduction in interior noise levels. This package
comprises revised intake and exhaust ducting at the rear of the
coach, revision of the engine compartment, and slight modifica-
tions to the engine itself.
  Having enumerated the various noise sources and what has been
clone to control them, let me next discuss the research and develop-
ment work being done at General Motors for further noise control.

                      Research Programs
  Noise is certainly a major consideration in  the  evaluation of
advanced vehicle and powerplant concepts. Over the past several
years,  General Motors has produced a variety of experimental
vehicles with unconventional powerplants: Stirling-cycle, electric,
hybrid  gasoline/electric, steam and, currently, the rotary engine.
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ject of a close evaluation and study. Unconventional or different
concepts for exhaust silencing have  also been  researched, with
several designs currently under evaluation.
  Engineering effort is also  being directed  to finding the lowest
noise  levels possible with existing product designs.  As mentioned
previously, control  of exhaust and induction noise  from new ve-
hicles, both car and truck, can be handled with present technology,
at least insofar as future reductions in noise levels now required
by law are concerned.
  Control of radiated noise from the diesel engine itself still re-
mains a significant problem. Means of engine encapsulation or en-
closure, and structural modifications of the engine block, are being
investigated.
  Similarly, the noise from the large  cooling fans used on trucks
and buses is a problem of some magnitude. Investigations  into
ducting and  shrouding  concepts, as well as new engine cooling
techniques, are being conducted.
  Studies are being made into the noise-generation  mechanisms
of tires,  for  both passenger  cars and trucks, in order to devise
means for reduction of this particular noise source. At the present
time,  however, it  appears that traction and handling requirements
are inconsistent with noise reduction requirements of tires. There
may be additional  tradeoffs  and  compromises  in this area than
the ones  presently seen. But  as of today, even the interactions of
the varying factors about which we do have some knowledge are
not yet fully understood.

                       Economic Factors
Passenger Cars
  Although  in some instances the engineering methods have been
identified which  are necessary to  achieve the limited  noise reduc-
tions  discussed previously, the costs and other economic considera-
tions  have not been defined. This  is true of current models, using
known engineering methods to achieve the limited  noise level re-
ductions  now spelled out in existing law. It is even more true of
future models, where control techniques and hardware necessary
to achieve the extremely low  noise  levels being  proposed  and
promulgated by various State and local governments, are basically
unknown.
  However, it is clear  that  the  implementation of even known
technology to achieve lower noise levels on future models will in-
crease the price the consumer pays. This, we believe, is illustrated
by dual muffling systems on many of our  1971 models  with 8-
cylinder  engines  which  approach 80 dBA in a  passby noise  test.
This experience suggests that if 80 decibels is to be the objective
for passenger cars,  then use of current technology,  or dual ex-
hausts, on passenger cars is likely to increase costs to purchasers
significantly. While costs of optional equipment are not completely
representative of costs  when the same item becomes standard
equipment, they are of comparative value. In the case of a Chevro-
let Impala, the dual  exhaust option has a manufacturer's suggested
retail price of $30.55 (includes Federal excise tax).
  Finally, it is also likely that replacement costs  for such  dual
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             Added Cost Due to Air Pollution Controls
  The added costs of mandatory air pollution control systems will
compound the costs  made necessary to meet lower noise standards.
In addition to other controls,  General Motors  believes that a
catalytic converter will have to be installed on the exhaust system
in order to bring hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide within the
1975 Federal  standards.  Since exhaust emissions may have to
be processed through a catalytic converter in order to comply with
air pollution standards, it follows that dual exhaust  systems for
noise control in turn are likely to require dual converters.
  While the exact cost of these converters cannot be fixed at this
time, due to development work with  catalysts which is now in
process, the magnitude of cost can be identified as significant.
  The foregoing is  true of mass produced passenger vehicles gen-
erally.  However, there are two cases  involving commercial ve-
hicles where limited  price  data are available for noise control
efforts by General Motors:
      1. The environmental improvement package for 8-cylinder
    diesel transit coaches is priced at about $373 (current prices
    without Federal excise taxes) when installed on a new coach.
    Retrofit  to coaches in the field costs considerably more. To
    convert a used  8-cylinder bus, the materials alone cost $1,300
     (current prices without Federal  excise taxes),  and require
    averagely 160  man-hours  of labor to install.
      2. The optional quieting package for the  New York City
    refuse truck chassis added about 1 percent to the price of the
    chassis.
  Obviously, this is not an appropriate yardstick to  apply to all
noise-control measures on all vehicles.

Heavy Trucks
  We anticipate that the noise level of almost all heavy trucks can
be reduced to about 82-83  dBA:  (1)  Using  present technology,
(2)  tested  according  to  SAE  J366 procedures  which  basically
evaluate vehicle noises and not tire noises, (3)  if present State
lengfh laws for combination vehicles are liberalized,  and (4) re-
quiring significant  although not yet finalized additional costs. For
vehicles to be below  that level, a new vehicle design and more
sophisticated silencing concepts with longer leadtime requirements
and higher costs will  be required.

Costs of Use and Maintenance
   It should be recognized that the total costs are more than just
those borne by the  consumer at time of purchase. The additional
space or possible additional weight required by more extensive
noise control equipment and changes to associated components can
lead to  reduced payload capacity and reduced  roominess. Also, be-
cause of these factors, vehicle  operating costs may increase. For
vehicles used in commerce, this increase in  operational  cost is
ultimately paid by  the consumer. Finally, and equally important,
maintenance costs  for all owners will  be higher.
   All such factors must be considered when determining the cost/
benefit  ratio for increasingly restrictive noise  level requirements.
   Mr.  Chairman,  that  completes my discussion of the  items
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some important aspects of the problem which are relevant to the
purposes of this hearing.

                Responsibility for Noise Control
  The  problems of abatement of transportation noise cannot be
solved  by any one group. They  can, in our judgment, only be
solved  through cooperative  efforts  of all parties  involved:  The
manufacturer, the  operator, and the affected governmental bodies.
       1. Designing and constructing a  vehicle to meet the de-
    mands of the  market and the law are the responsibilities of
    the manufacturer.
       2. Operating the vehicle within  the  confines of common-
    sense and concern for the citizenry, as well as maintaining it
    for proper mechanical operation, are the responsibilities of
    the owner and operator.
       3. Necessary governmental activity ranges from local to
    national and  involves many different  functional  agencies:
    Planners who arrange for the placement of  transportation
    systems within the populated environments, legislators who
    provide both money and authority for establishing standards
    which are  essential for noise abatement, and  finally, police
    or other regulatory agencies who enforce the standards in use.
  Because most vehicles are mass produced at one location and
sold for use in other  States or throughout the country, it is ad-
visable that the manufacturer be  regulated by only one noise
standard  established  at the Federal level and recognized by all
State and municipal governments. The alternative to uniform na-
tional noise standards would be the profusion of varying and con-
flicting State standards which would impose serious cost penalties
on the  manufacturer.
  In automotive safety and emission areas of regulation, Congress
has recognized this point and has sought to preempt the States in
those  fields of  law. It  seems reasonable to  us that preemption
should also apply in the field of noise regulation. However, there
are two cases in which State action is  not  only appropriate but
essential  in the enforcement of either State or Federal noise
standards: (1) The periodic  inspection of equipment in use, and
(2) enforcement of whatever passby or operator standards are
promulgated.
  Having discussed who  is responsible for  transportation noise
abatement, may I  now  explain how General  Motors recommends
the problem be approached.

                          Priorities
  Necessarily, this must begin with a complete definition of the
problem. Much of  the data for this  definition is already available
and needs only to be coordinated,  and  examined to see what is yet
missing. With all  this  information, the major elements  of the
problem  can be identified, whether poorly maintained vehicles,
operators who blow their horns  needlessly  or cause tire squeal,
hotrods,  trucks, motorcycles,  or  misplaced highways.  This will
permit the establishment  of priorities so that the most essential
control efforts can be  taken first.

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                Test Procedures and Regulations
  Finally, any attack on transportation noise must be made on the
basis of valid test data and procedures. As I emphasized in the be-
ginning, General Motors feels there is a need for better and more
representative measurement techniques. Present statutory regula-
tions are structured around tests of new vehicles in near-maximum
noise emitting conditions—but as individual vehicles and at lower
than top highway speeds. And  yet, one of the significant aspects
of the larger vehicle noise problem may not be controlled nor in-
fluenced by compliance with the current type of vehicle noise
regulation. I speak of the composite result of many vehicles oper-
ating at or near top highway speeds.  The relatively high level of
environmental noise which comes from a heavily traveled express-
way may or may not respond completely to regulation of individ-
ual sources of noise on a given vehicle, or to maximum noise emis-
sion regulations of a given type of vehicle.
  The effectiveness of individual vehicle regulation may also de-
pend upon a more accurate evaluation of what is  meant  by the
"annoying aspects" of vehicle noise, as opposed to noise that may
provide high readings on our measuring instruments and yet is not
annoying. I have purposely  refrained from use of  the term  "an-
noying  noise" until now, because it is subject to so many mean-
ings. However, I mention it here because it is an important part of
the problem and  as such should be a key factor in any national
regulatory effort.
  Research on  this subject is nearly completed under  sponsorship
of the vehicle manufacturers, by eminent noise specialists at Bolt,
Beranek & Newman. Thus, the attempt has at least been made to
identify the annoying elements  of total environmental  or collective
traffic noise. Hopefully, by process of elimination,  the study will
also show those noises that are not annoying.
  Once these  data are available, they will offer guidance as to
which elements of vehicle noise may be critical to the public:  (1)
When a single vehicle passes, or (2) when the environmental noise
of high traffic volume is present. When this has been established,
vehicle  regulation may be prepared so that  environmental noise
can be expected to respond.
  Having said  this, I still recognize the validity of trying to lower
the total traffic noise level by reducing the contributing share from
each vehicle. What I've suggested, is that regulating the individual
vehicle  may not  be valid to control all  degrees of the collective
noise of high volume, high speed traffic.
  Summarizing this point, it appears reasonable to us at General
Motors  that the desire to reduce total vehicle noise, by whatever
method or approach, should not be directed: (1) To  levels which
are below those established as the minimum in the  environmental
sense, which can  be influenced by individual vehicle performance;
and (2) when identified, to aspects of measurable noise which are
not annoying.

                          Conclusion
   This  presentation has touched only briefly on a few  of the facets
of the abatement of transportation noise as related to the produc-
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finding solutions to the entire problem, of necessity our experience
has taken us only briefly outside of the new vehicle field. I have
endeavored to explain the sources of, and possible solutions to, ve-
hicle noise with both current and future appraisals. For what they
are worth, I have suggested methods  of reducing vehicle noise
levels which General Motors  believes to be technologically  worth
considering. And, as requested, I have attempted to alert the panel
to the elements and magnitude of costs which ultimately must be
added to new vehicle prices and maintenance in order to achieve
lower noise levels. Finally, I have raised what appear to be serious
problems yet unresolved in the test and evaluation areas.
  Because of the changes required to control vehicle noise, it is
unlikely that there will be substantial costs to be added to the price
the consumer must pay. Noise control is  being considered to pro-
tect the environment, and from  our experience, it seems unlikely
that consumers will voluntarily demand reduction in vehicle noise.
In order to  achieve the objective, either consumer incentives to
purchase optional noise control equipment voluntarily will  be re-
quired or, as in the case of air pollution and safety, Government
regulation which makes such  installation  mandatory.
  At General Motors, we  are appreciative of this opportunity to
contribute to these  hearings. If you wish, Mr. Chairman,  I will
now be happy to answer any questions that I can.
  Thank you.
  Mr. STARKMAN. Fortunately,  Mr.  Rupert covered some of the
points on trucks,  and this helps  quite a bit.
  I think that General Motors is known  to be a manufacturer of
many kinds of mobile, as well  as stationary equipment,  which
noise can be a consideration.
  Today I am going to keep my  remarks, however, on the matter
of transport equipment, road-based, if you will, trucks and  motor
cars and buses, and because it has been pointed  out, the truck in
the main seems to be a target for noise  source,  seems to be that
source of noise in the highway which most people are aware of, so
we will start with the truck.
  The truck has, generally  speaking,  a number  of important
sources of noise,  the most prominent of which—and with  which
you are  familiar—the engine exhaust; second,  the  cooling fan;
the tires; the engine and power train as such; and then the aero-
dynamic and load noises. By "load noises" I mean noise created by
loose load or chains or other parts that connect the load to the
vehicle itself.
  Exhaust noise is the most predominant problem, and in brief, ex-
haust noise can be contained, and it has been within the industry
—at least our corporation designs its trucks to accommodate the
laws existing in the State of California and applies these same
design principles and  constraints  to its  vehicles throughout the
rest of the United States.
  This means the provision of more muffling than might at first
have been the case had there  been no restraints placed upon noise
from trucks.
  One can go further in constraining the exhaust noise by adding
more mufflers, or larger mufflers, doubling the capacity, carrying
exhaust pipes to the rear end of  the truck, and doing other things
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  Now, if this is done, then, the next predominant level of noise
that one hears usually is that from the fan.
  As you know,  the cooling system, the coolant cooling system on
a truck, the so-called radiator and fan are much more extensive
and closer to design limits in a truck than they are in a passenger
car, so if the fan becomes a source of noise, one has to look for
ways  of decreasing  that  noise, and  this involves reducing the
speed of the fan, or adapting the fan or reducing its noise through
ducting.
  The other items which  I have  made reference to, particularly
that of tires, when one gets the fan and the exhaust under control
down to the limits where they no longer predominate, then the
next source of noise is tires, and here there is a real dichotomy, a
problem arises from the fact that with presently designed tires,
those tires which show the greatest traction or braking capability
also unfortunately seem to be those which make the most noise.
  We are somehow going to have to solve this problem  of pro-
viding both for safety and for low noise levels.
  I think you  are aware that some of the trucks, particularly in
the State of Michigan, have over 40  tires on them. This can be
quite  a source of noise.
  We are faced  further by problems of the  engine itself  making
noise. I am  not  going to  dwell on this because at your Atlanta
hearings you had someone from General Motors who discussed this
point specifically, but this would be fourth in order.
  If one wishes  to get into the 80-decibel range from trucks, one
can, however,  get down into the  mid-80-decibel range with con-
tainment of the exhaust system,  and with some quieting of the
fan.
  The buses have the same kind of problems as trucks. They could
be named  in approximately the same order. There has  been pro-
vided, particularly by the General Motors Corp., a kit, an environ-
mental kit, which is not only for noise, but for other reasons, that
attach to buses,  and this serves also the quieting of the bus noise,
particularly for  the inside, for the  passengers  in  the bus, to the
extent of as much as 10 decibels in some of the retrofits that have
been made.
  If you will turn to figure 1 at the end of  the material I have
supplied, I think you  will see there that if one  eliminates the ex-
haust in a typical truck, say, that has a total noise output under
normal testing procedures, the SAE J366 procedure, one finds that
the total noise at an  88-decibel level can be reduced by containing
the exhaust to the order of about 86, where  the fan becomes pre-
dominant, and when the fan noise has been reduced by eliminating
the fan, one finds, then,  that  the engine predominates; in  this
particular truck, the level of  about 84, so these are the present
technological capabilities with means we have on hand, although it
would take some investment to accomplish these levels.
  Turning to passenger cars, of course, this constitutes the largest
single class of vehicles on the road.
  The noise, in  order of decreasing level of intensity, is first the
exhaust; then the induction system; the tires; again the cooling
fan seems  to  be about fourth  in order, noise  directly from the
engine, power  train,  and finally the  aerodynamics  of airflow
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  The control of these is somewhat similar to control in the heavy
duty vehicles.
  One  can accomplish  some decreases in  the noise level from
passenger cars by applying more constraints upon the exhaust sys-
tem, and one thing you  may be interested in is the  difference be-
tween,  as an example, a dual and a single exhaust.
  By providing on the same vehicle and same engine a dual ex-
haust system, one  can gain a slight bit in noise levels.
  Now, I think you recognize that by doing so you have increased
the cost to the consumer,  and this price on  our vehicles is a dif-
ferential of about  $30, if  you can separate it out. It's difficult to
separate all these factors, but  one cannot stop there and there
alone and say, "Well, fine, we will put dual exhausts on  all our
cars."
  At General Motors, at least, we think we are going to have to
have a  catalyst  on the  exhaust system to control  the vehicular
emissions for 1975 vehicles. If that be the case, the dual exhaust
system will require two units of catalysts,  and you will  see the
situation begin to multiply.
  One also has to think ahead with respect to the placement of not
only a  dual catalyst, but  enhanced exhaust silencing system be-
yond the present kind  of mufflers  we have—perhaps  a dual
muffling system  on each  exhaust pipe, and  I  guess what I am
saying is that we can gain quite a few decibels, as many as 7 or 8,
by going to complex silencing systems on vehicles. But the systems
do not look like what we have today. They are more  complex,
more complicated.
  I don't want to  dwell too long—I said I would only take a few
minutes—I think that the consideration that General Motors has
with respect to the thrust of these hearings  that are taking place
are numerous.
  I think that in  the main, General Motors would like to see  a
unified system for  establishment of limits on vehicular noise emis-
sions, rather than  attempting to accommodate various and sundry
kinds of noise limitations from various parts of our body politic.
  We are not happy with the present methods of determination of
vehicle  noise. We think that  perhaps the  means  by which we
measure noise, particularly from passenger vehicles, may not be
representative of the kind of reaction which the public,  particu-
larly in the vicinity of  throughways, multiple highways, may be
exposed to.
  The determination, as an example,  under SAE procedures, from
the noise from passenger cars may not be reflective of the kind
of noise which is generated by 10 to 100 passenger cars passing at
a particular point, and we believe, therefore, that there  is con-
siderable development  yet necessary in the area   of means for
measurement, and instruments for measurement before we really
have a  good handle on the problem of noise, and before constraints
are placed very tightly upon noise.
  I think that I should close, and for emphasis,  by saying that
anything which is done to lower the noise contribution from an
automobile should  be done with full knowledge of what the other
sources of noise are contributing to the environment.
  There are tradeoffs involved. One must take into  account these
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but one can say, as an example, that the individual driver in the
way he operates his car makes a difference in the way the person
standing on the  corner, or living in the  house along the freeway,
will be exposed  to  that automobile,  or  that motorcycle, or  that
truck, whatever  it may be.
  It's our function to build the vehicles. It's the function, we be-
lieve, of the Federal Government to establish the kind of controls
which should be  established if they are to be established.
  And finally, it's the function of the local  political bodies to en-
force those constraints when they have  been developed.
  I thank  you for the opportunity to  appear  here, and I am
opening myself, if you would like, to questions you may have, and
I hope I can answer them.
  Dr. MEYER.  Well, thank you, sir. I have a feeling that you are
going to get a question or two, and I certainly appreciate  your
overview of this excellent prepared statement that you have here.
And in glancing through it  I see it has a wealth of  information
that is going to  be most useful. I will now ask the panel if  they
have any questions. Panel?
  Dr. WHITCOMB.  Yes. Thank you. I would like to open with a
series of questions  to make sure that I am getting at the right
question ultimately.
  Is it true that trucks are sort of an  overriding source on the
highway? You hinted  at that in the opening part,  rather  than
passenger cars.
  Mr. STARKMAN. That appears to be the case. If someone sets up
a microphone 50 feet from a highway, the peaks in noise coincide
with the  passage  of trucks—sometimes motorcycles. It's  very
seldom that the peak noises come from passenger cars, except un-
less you have a flock of  passenger cars,  and then an isolated
truck.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB.  All right.  My  next  question may  take the
problem out of your domain and into someone else's	
  Mr. STARKMAN. I hope so.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Is it true that, what I have heard, that as you
go about 50 miles an hour with a truck,  the intensity  of tire noise
passes, and  then becomes far dominant  over engine exhaust, fan,
and every other  noise form, so as you approach 60 or 65, which is
typically the speed limit, and typically the speed at which trucks
drive, tire noise  is really the culprit, as you see it?
  Mr.  STARKMAN. It depends  upon the load. If you are pulling a
heavy load—well, even pulling a heavy load, what you say is  true.
It's more true with a light load, the tires are  the predominant
source of noise at highway speeds, 55, 60 miles  an hour.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. So then, going  back to an earlier point, you
said perhaps the method of measuring noise for  vehicles ought to
be modified.
  I presume we would, what we would  agree with, then, is that
there ought to be some high speed measurement without pulling
a hill, or anything else, just going down  an open highway at speed
limits  of speeds.
  Mr.  STARKMAN.  This is  true. Most of our measurements pre-
scribed by  the tests that are extant today involve  a low  speed
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miles an hour, and these are not necessarily representative of the
heavily traveled throughway or freeway.
  You are quite right, that is exactly what I am trying to say.
  Dr. WHITCOMB.  Incidentally,  the  VW might  not  fare  as well
here, would it?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  I can't even comment. I don't know.
  There is not necessarily a relationship between size and noise, as
evidenced by motorcycles.
  Dr. MEYER. Just go on down  the line, gentlemen.
  Professor PLACER. All right.  Mr.  Starkman, I am sorry that I
haven't  been able to read  your  paper carefully,  as carefully as I
would like to. Let me sort  of feel my way a little bit with you.
  California requires certain noise  abatement equipment on ve-
hicles and  trucks  sold in  California—I believe it's an  88 dBA
standard; is that correct?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  It just so  happens there are two sets of stand-
ards. I  am, incidentally, an  expatriate from the State  of Cali-
fornia—I choose to call it  the late great State of California since
I left it.
  Passenger cars  in urban  areas   are  limited to 76   decibels
presently,  and on  freeways, 82; motorcycles, 82 in urban areas
and  86  on  freeways; and trucks, 88 in urban  areas and 90 on
freeways.
  Professor PLACER. Is that the only  State  that presently has
noise standards of that type ?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  As far  as  I  am aware, California, at the mo-
ment, is the only State which is enforcing noise  standards of this
type. Now, there may be other standards that  have to do with it's
too noisy or it isn't noisy enough,  reflecting back  again to the
subject judgments.
  Professor PLACER. The old nuisance standards?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  That's correct.
  Professor PLACER. And  there are  currently no Federal stand-
ards?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  As far as I know, there are some under—well,
you are charged with considering standards.
  Professor PLACER. But there  are none in effect?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  As far as I know.
  Professor PLACER. Does  GM have any particular difficulty with
meeting the California standards in terms of manufacturing, in
terms of state-of-the-art equipment?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  No; we are meeting them now.
  Professor PLACER. You are meeting them now?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  With state-of-the-art, that is correct.
  Professor PLACER.  So that all vehicles sold  in  California do
meet those  standards ?
  MR. STARKMAN.  That's correct.  The SAE J366, which is a
standard specification is the standard which GM uses to make sure
that their designs conform to the 92—pardon me, to the  88 dBA
urban and the 90 dBA freeway.
  Professor PLACER. Do you use that same standard—what is it—
SAE J366, do you use that  same standard in building your ve-
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  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes, we do. We design our vehicles to that level.
That does not mean that the operator has  to buy the  package
which is provided, as you will hear from others.
  Professor PLACER. Well, now, cars furnished in California meet
those standards?
  Mr. STARKMAN. That's correct.
  Professor PLACER. There is no option with the consumer?
  Mr. STARKMAN. That's correct.
  Professor PLACER. Now	
  Mr. STARKMAN. Our cars  and our trucks, both.
  Professor PLACER. Cars and  trucks as manufactured, as they
leave the manufacturer  for  sale in California meet those  stand-
ards?
  Mr. STARKMAN. That's correct.
  Professor PLACER. This is—is this true in other States?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Not necessarily so—and I would like to explain.
  Professor PLACER. Yes.
  Mr.  STARKMAN.  The  truck user can specify  the components
which he wishes placed upon his vehicle. It's different than the
passenger car, and  often do,  and the truck  manufacturer who is
not constrained may choose  not to buy the lower noise level  ve-
hicle, for whatever  his reasons—and there are reasons.
  These systems do cost in  fuel economy—not  very much, but
enough where you  are figuring  pennies, and they do reduce the
power—not as much as you  reduce the noise, incidentally.
  You are probably aware that there isn't a parallel between noise
and power necessarily, but there is some small relationship. It is a
pressure drop one suffers when you put the muffler and the tailpipe
on a truck that didn't have one previously.
  Professor PLACER. Well, I take it, then, that GM does not, on
its own initiative, provide noise abatement equipment in the same
way they provide fenders. In other words, the typical automobile
purchaser in Illinois has no  option as to whether he gets fenders
or four tires or a roof, unless, of course, he is buying a convertible,
because GM imposes that on us,  but GM does not take the step of
building into our cars, I take it, the noise  abatement equipment
unless the Government imposes  that on GM. Is  that the posture
you are in?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Not wishing to get into a difference of opinion
with you, it's not because GM  says you must have fenders;  it's
because the States  say you must have fenders.
  I would only again refer back to a previous speaker who said
that in the competitive situation of, say, heavy-duty vehicles, that
it is not to be expected that one manufacturer will place an item
on a vehicle at his  own detriment  in the competitive field, where
the other manufacturers will leave that item off, and given a
choice by the purchaser of a vehicle that has an emission contain-
ment system, a noise containment system which  his particular
State, or the State  in which he operates does not require, I think
that it might  be  illogical  for  GM to  force that item on  the
purchaser.
  Professor PLACER. Would  you think the same thing was true of
cars as well as trucks ?
  Mr. STARKMAN. No; because the car buyer does not specify, in
the main, except in  dual exhaust—I don't try to make the impres-

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sion here  that dual exhausts were  invented because they were
quieter; they were  invented because one can  gain  more power
from the same engine with a dual exhaust system, but along with
this goes a quieter  car, believe it or not, for the same muffling
system.
  Professor PLACER. All right. Well—all right, let me be sure I
understand that.  Are  you  saying, particularly  with  regard to
trucks, at  least, that GM would feel no  ogligation, as a corporate
body, to undertake equipping these trucks as a  routine matter?
  Mr. STARKMAN. No;  to the contrary.  GM tries to impress upon
the truck user that he should buy this system, and offers it up as
the usual thing, and it's up to the truck user.
  Professor PLACER. But it's up to the truck user, except in Cali-
fornia, where State  laws require it.
  Mr. STARKMAN. He has no truck—the truck  user in California
has no choice.
  Professor PLACER. So if we want this equipment on our trucks
in Illinois  or New York or  wherever, the option is State regula-
tion, or Federal.
  Mr. STARKMAN. Or Federal regulation, yes; or local regulation.
There are  cities that have ordinances, too.
  Professor PLACER. Now,  let's  talk about the  cars for just a
minute. Is there any reason why the  GM has a fair  share of the
automobile market these days—I believe that is a fair statement?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes, sir.
  Professor PLACER. Is there any reason why GM cars couldn't
come automatically equipped, no options provided, with appropri-
ate noise reduction?
  Mr. STARKMAN. For  an increased price, yes, sir.
  Professor PLACER. For an increased price?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes, sir.
  Professor PLACER. Could  GM do this?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Not and stay  competitive in the field, no,  sir;
not unless the other manufacturers did  the same thing.
  Professor PLACER. GM wouldn't want to assume that risk,  and
then try to market that?
  Mr. STARKMAN.  Not only wouldn't want to,  they  couldn't  and
stay compefitive in the  field.
  Professor PLACER. All right. On the question  of staying com-
petitive, I  notice you make  reference to a dual  exhaust option on
the Chevrolet Impala	
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes, sir.
  Professor PLACER. Which is one of the noise  abatement things;
you indicate it as "a manufacturer that one of  the problems is it
costs  money staying  competitive—you indicated  as  a manu-
facturer's  suggesfed retail price of $30.55—this is on page 13 of
your statement. Would you tell  us  what the actual cost to the
manufacturer is of  that unit?
  Mr. STARKMAN. No,  I can't tell you.
  Professor PLACER. You don't know, or you won't?
  Mr. STARKMAN. I don't know.
  Professor PLACER. You don't know?
  Mr. STARKMAN. No.
  Professor PLACER. Could you find out  for us ?

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  Mr. STARKMAN. I kind of doubt it. I think that if you ask any
manufacturer of any product what his costs are for the product,
you would have a difficult time finding out.
  Professor PLACER. In other words, one of the variables in why
you are not  staying competitive is, perhaps, because the profit
margin in adding this kind of equipment runs it up too high?
  Mr. STARKMAN. This I  couldn't comment on.
  Professor PLACER. All right. Thank you,  sir.
  Mr. HINTON. Mr. Starkman, I am interested in your paper also.
I wish I had a chance to read it fully.
  Mr. STARKMAN. I apologize that we didn't get it to you.
  Mr. HINTON. We didn't  receive any of these ahead of time, so I
was interested to note that you have employed an acoustical con-
sultant—you, in concert with other manufacturers, in cooperation
with other manufacturers, to identify the  annoying elements of
traffic noise, vehicle noise, and then you said:
  Once these data are available, they will offer guidance as to which elements
of vehicle noise may he critical to the public, (1) when  a single vehicle
passes, or (2) when the environmental noise of high traffic volume is present.
When this has been established, vehicle regulation may be prepared so that
environmental noise can be expected to respond.

  I would like to ask you,  don't you think it would be desirable, in
the interim,  to develop the noise reduction techniques that you
know you have identified—the fan source, the engine source, the
exhaust source and so  forth, to just go ahead systematically in
your design  work, seeing if you can't find lower noise  design
techniques?
  Mr. STARKMAN. We routinely do this.
  Mr. HINTON. I see.
  Mr. STARKMAN. It's much better to have an idea of the character
of noise, or any other function you are investigating, and be able
to attack  the problems in a rational way,  I  think, rather than
trying every kind of a blacksmith operation you  can  think up.
This works, and we have been very successful, and others have as
well, and  bending iron until finally  you get something that  is
reasonable in its function, or optimized in its function,  but it's
better to know why it got there, and this is what we are after, is
finding out fundamentally—we are not waiting for that, we still
are doing things that may not necessarily have all  of the science
that we would like to have behind the development.
  Mr.  HINTON.  Thank  you.
  Mr. MARTIN. Mr. Starkman, I think you mentioned here—but
just to clarify—is GM—and the same question applies to the auto-
mobile industry, automotive  manufacturers in general,  are they
for a uniform law, Federal law to cover trucks, vehicles, et cetera,
instead of what is becoming a hodgepodge across the country?
  Mr. STARKMAN. I don't know, but I think they should be. I can
only speak for General Motors, and for General  Motors, yes, we
want  uniformity.  We would  much rather  have uniformity than
diversity.
  Professor  KERREBROCK. There  seems  to be a noise floor for
trucks at about 85 dBA according to your diagram  here, which is
set by the engine. I presume this is a heavy diesel engine?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes.
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  Mr. STARK MAN. I am sorry, most of the heavy-duty vehicles, or
ones that are up in the 50,000 to 76,000-pound gross vehicle weight
level are diesel-powered, and very  few that are gasoline-powered
that I know of, and  so this  is diesel engine noise that after you
have taken care of the exhaust and the fan by appropriate means,
is the predominant factor.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I  presume that we have to face this
problem  when trucks are passing through communities and  so
forth, so that certainly, except on the expressway, that is a serious
problem.
  Now, the question  is, are you looking seriously at the potential
of the gas turbine for	
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Lowering this particular level?
  Mr. STARKMAN. The gas turbine is—I  think you have  read, in
the first stages of an effort to  place it as  an alternate powerplant
to  the diesel engine,  and heavy-duty vehicles. General Motors  is,
through its Detroit diesel division, is working on this aspect of
powerplants.  You are probably going to ask—I will anticipate—
is a gas turbine going to be quieter or more noisy than a  diesel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Mr. STARKMAN. It will have to be quieter when we are  through
with it.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Otherwise you won't build it?
  Mr. STARKMAN. I think it would be inadvisable to build it if it
were not capable  of being quiet, even though it might  have other
attributes.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  How much quieter?
  Mr.  STARKMAN. We don't  know  yet. We  are still working
with it.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Starkman, in the  absence of other  legislation,
can I infer from what you said about  your present policy, that you
consider the California law the most restrictive of the ones that
you now know of, and so most of your truck packages are designed
specifically against that requirement?
  Mr. STARKMAN. That's correct. This is because it is really the
presently—I emphasize presently, because there are other efforts
underway to devise limits on noise, both from trucks and passenger
cars, and  other entities, political entities; but at the moment we
design to the California limitation.
  Dr. MEYER. So  in effect, then, the national standard,  insofar as
General Motors is concerned, is the California standard?
  Mr. STARKMAN. It  could easily be, if it were, became a standard,
we could meet it.
  Dr. MEYER. But what happens if  next week the city  of New
York, or the city of Honolulu—I realize you don't ship  a lot of ve-
hicles there, but let's say a place where you ship a lot—let's say
in the city of New York, which is a large market, comes up with,
as they are considering right now,  perhaps a more restrictive one
than the California?
  Mr.  STARKMAN. It depends on how restrictive—if,  as an  ex-
ample, if  it were 2 decibels  more restrictive,  we could meet this
with larger, heavier, and more costly exhaust systems. If it were
4 decibels lower,  we would have to start doing something about
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  Dr. MEYER. I have a question in accordance with the rules under
which we are operating;  as you  know, we don't  allow questions
direct from the floor, otherwise we would have a debate rather
than a hearing, but I have a question  submitted to me by an in-
dividual, which is a logical one to fit in with this line of question-
ing.
  It is,  do you feel that the  automotive industry could meet the
Chicago Code for heavy  trucks  by 1975; namely, the 84 dBA,
you obviously already—it's measured at 50 feet—I think you have
answered that question.
  Mr. STARKMAN. It would take considerable investment. Perhaps,
I am not sure.
  Dr. MEYER. How about	
  Mr. STARKMAN. And we would  then get  into the matter  of tires,
you understand.
  Dr. MEYER. And also the question of 75 dBA by 1980, which is
in this law they distributed to us this morning.
  Mr. STARKMAN. I personally would have difficulty in visualizing
what you could do to a heavy truck with the constraints of the
tires.
  Dr. MEYER. In other words, there may be a law on the books of
the city of Chicago that is technologically impossible to meet?
  Mr. STARKMAN. From our present knowledge, we could not meet
the 75 dBA with a heavy truck.
  Dr. MEYER. In other words, you are  saying that there is a  need
for more research, then, both on the part of industry, for some-
body to see if this is technologically feasible in  this time frame?
  Mr. STARKMAN. Yes, sir; that  is correct, if we  take a truck, as
on the existing truck and run it by with its engine shutoff, which
means no  fan noise, no engine noise,  no  exhaust noise, the pre-
dominating noise  is from the tires, and it's well above 75.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, we are, of course, going to have a witness from
the Rubber Manufacturing Association, who, I hope, will be able
to address himself a little bit to this problem.
  Mr.  STARKMAN.  Yes.  I would rather that  he  handle  that
question.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes. So the next part of the question, then, I guess
is relatively moot, which  would be what percent of the total cost
would be involved in the meeting of the limits? At this point you
would be unable to say, I guess.
  Mr. STARKMAN. No idea.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir, for a most useful presen-
tation, and we look forward to working with you and getting more
information as  time goes on. Thank you, sir.
  Mr. STARKMAN. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. The next witness,  from  whom  we hope to hear an-
other viewpoint from the same industry,  is Mr. John  Damian, a
representative of Mr.  Starkman's competitor, the Ford Motor
Co., who is present.  And we welcome  you, sir, and would like to
hear your views on this same subject.
  Mr. DAMIAN. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Do you have a copy of your testimony?
  Mr. DAMIAN. No. I regret right now I do not. This is my prin-
cipal one; I have  been trying to cross out  things as they came up.
  Dr. MEYER. All right.

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       STATEMENT OF JOHN DAMIAN, FORD MOTOR CO.
  Mr. DAMIAN. Mr.  Chairman, my name is John Damian; I am
vehicle regulations manager of the engineering and manufacturing
staff of the Ford Motor Co. With me is Roger Jeble, who is systems
engineer in our heavy truck engineering department.
  On behalf of my company I want to express our appreciation for
this opportunity to present some of our comments  on the subject
of noise, since Federal legislation will undoubtedly encompass ve-
hicles produced by Ford. I  would like to make a few preliminary
comments regarding the regulation, particularly Federal regula-
tion of the vehicle manufacturing processes.
  Vehicle manufacturers are now subject to two  extensive and
comprehensive  Federal regulatory activities; vehicle safety and
vehicle emissions. Emissions standards are promulgated  by the
Environmental Protection  Agency; safety standards by the  De-
partment of Transportation. The addition of Federal noise regula-
tion would subject vehicles to a third  set of standards to be de-
veloped  by EPA.  We support this additional form  of regulation,
but we  are concerned that when the regulatory  pattern  to  be
established does  come into being, it  does not  lose sight of  the
problems which are inherent in multiple regulation, and to make
provisions for the solution  of these—of those problems. One such
problem  is the need for consistency or compatibility  of regulation.
  Since most vehicles sold in this country are mass produced, and
not custom built, regulations must be  absolutely consistent with
one another. The  fine tuning required to resolve even minor con-
flicts between regulation is simply not available to the mass pro-
duction  manufacturer. For example, when confronted with emis-
sion  requirements that may make noise regulation more difficult,
or even  impede it—which  is to  take precedent? If catalysts  are
effective  for emission control  but occupies  space  which  sound
deadeners might  otherwise occupy, would the  Administrator of
EPA have the  authority to set standards to recognize the con-
flicting demands  upon vehicle design and  performance, or must
the vehicle  manufacturer  undertake the colossal   task of com-
pletely redesigning all of these vehicles at once ?
  We would hope that the Administrator has that appropriate
authority, the authority to require that noise standards be effected
in a  manner compatible with safety and emission  control—per-
missive  authority to set noise standards  as research criteria and
findings  on  contributed—contributory  sources  are  required, and
authority that insures that no other level of government be per-
mitted by its actions to frustrate this deliberate  pattern of regula-
tion.
  I have heard, with you members, some of the comments by Dr.
Starkman, so I won't get into them, but let's get into, for example,
one item, and this is the decibel. Because of the logarithmic nature
of decibels, they cannot be subtracted arithmetically; a one decibel
increase  in  the—decrease  in the noise level of a  single  source
actually  results in a  10.8 percent decrease in the sound pressure
level.
  For example, California law presently sets  a standard  of  88
dBA for heavy trucks, and calls for a 2-decibel reduction, to  86
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reduction of over 20 percent in the total vehicular noise. It must
be understood that the technology of measuring total vehicular
noise is in its relative  infancy.
  In recent years my  company has tested  vehicle noise in cor-
respondence with the Society of Automotive  Engineers, which are
J986-A, relative to passenger  cars and light trucks,  and J366, so
I won't go into any more detail on those. Ford has long taken steps
to systematically  reduce sound levels for both cars and trucks.
  When I speak of sound levels, again I speak of total vehicular
noise. For example, in 1964 some passenger cars were in excess of
90 dBA. Now our passenger cars have been reduced to levels not
exceeding 86 dBA.
  The  current goal for all Ford passenger cars is to meet the Cali-
fornia  requirements of 84 dBA for January 1,  1973. Now, truck
noise levels have also been significantly reduced from over 90 dBA
in some cases to current levels of 88 dBA. Again we project levels
of 84 dBA for January 1, 1973, which is the existing California
requirement.
  I would be remiss if  I gave you the impression that the January
1, 1973, levels will be easy to  achieve. For example, in pur truck
lineup  we have current units that present significant noise reduc-
tion problems for us, particularly the diesel-powered units.
  We  are currently considering noise suppression  methods for
such components as the engine, the fan intake systems and exhaust
systems. Perhaps the  most troublesome units will have  to be
shielded with some kind of acoustical materials.
  The  solution of the problem will require action by both the en-
gine manufacturers and ourselves. Any regulations adopted should
recognize this problem of dual responsibility.
  Tire noise is another factor which contributes  significantly  to
the total vehicular noise, particularly  at higher speeds, so I won't
go into further comments about  that. Popular  belief  to the con-
trary notwithstanding, in some cases  we have found out that the
vehicle noise is not limited to the exhaust system, but in some cases
the vehicle—the exhaust system is not the primary  source of ve-
hicle noise. You are  now  getting back now  to  the  regulatory
scheme of noise control.
  I would like to refer to specific aspects for your consideration.
This is based on our experience as manufacturers and distributors
of automotive products in which  considerations which we  believe
necessary to achieve maximum effectiveness with a minimum cost
to the  public.
   Since motor vehicles and other products that are likely to be
the subject of noise regulations  are  largely mass produced and
nationally marketed, it is important that the standards applied to
such products be uniform.  For this  reason we hope that EPA
will have such authority, sufficient authority  to  achieve  a con-
sistent pattern of regulation, and that there be  a satisfactory pre-
emption of  other  governmental  bodies. If manufacturers are
subjected to differing standards, mass production becomes  unduly
difficult and costly, if not impossible.
   When I speak of the  need for  uniform standards, I include
therein not only  decibel units within limits, but also  the  precise
test and test procedures by which the actual numbers are checked
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decibel levels as required by Federal  regulations, but are free to
establish different enforcement procedures or test methods, there
is no uniformity, in fact.
  Furthermore, the standards should precisely define its  area of
productivity, so without concern the Administrator, the manu-
facturer, and the States are aware of the  scope of the  standard.
For example, it does little good to have  a uniform Federal stand-
ard for a total vehicle noise if it is possible to have inconsistent
standards for the performance of mufflers or fans or tires, or any
of the other components that are incorporated in the new  vehicle.
  The new vehicular controls are not the only answer. In order to
insure that vehicles are maintained and operated within acceptable
noise  limits, the States must  take  positive and  comprehensive
steps in enforcing compatible noise controls in the operation and
use of the vehicle. We think that the adoption of compatible State
standards and enforcement  programs is a very necessary  part of
any realistic effort to control noise in our environment.
  For the reasons discussed  earlier, we think that the Administra-
tor should exercise maximum flexibility  in achieving noise control
objectives with a judicial  and legal  protection limit, he  should
have authority to decide whose noise properties make standards
necessary, what those standards should be, and the time frame in
which they should be applied.
  We also endorse the establishment of criteria, the level at which
damage to human beings occurs, and the education of contributing
sources of noise, and the level of that contribution as a necessary
and practical preliminary to the establishment of noise standards.
We believe that the noise standards should be imposed where there
is a demonstrated need for  noise control, and suggest that noise
abatement standards must be compatible with regulations  govern-
ing environmental and safety features of various products in order
to assure that the standards can be met in an expeditious, orderly,
and efficient manner. They  must pass the test  of technical feasi-
bility.
  In addition, the Administrator should consider the cost  of com-
pliance  in determining the  substance and effective dates of  the
standards. While costs  need not be the paramount concern, surely
it  should play a part in  setting  reasonable and  practicable
standards.
  We also suggest that the Administrator  conduct  cost  benefit
studies as part of his procedures in promulgating regulation, and
that the results of those studies be published as part of the rule-
making process. Such studies should  include statistical  data sup-
porting the needs for the standards. Further, standards should be
issued in terms of performance levels that are to be achieved. This
permits our scientists and engineers to seek, on a continuing basis,
new and better ways of meeting the standards with resultant bene-
fits  to both our environment and to the public. I should also note
that the measurement  techniques are almost as important as  the
standards themselves.
  With compliance with standards—if compliance with standards
can be  determined only through the elaborate, complicated labora-
tory procedures,  they  would not be practicable, since consistent
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impossible. Moreover, repair would likely be difficult, since dealer-
ships and repair  shops  would be unable to  purchase or operate
such equipment at their places of business. The promulgation of
standards should, for these reasons, be contingent on the  avail-
ability of simple, reliable  and easily  used  test procedures  and
equipment.
  I hope that my remarks  today  have  given the members of the
committee some feel for the complexity of vehicle regulation in
general,  and noise regulation  in particular. The  technology of
noise control is, in the  field is in its relatively, relative infancy.
Measurement techniques is only  in the early  stages  of develop-
ment, and standard setting  and enforcements will be substantially
inaccurate, inexact until that technology improves.
  Let me assure you that  the Ford Motor  Co. will  continue to
cooperate fully with EPA and  its representatives; in this light we
were pleased just recently to spend 2 days with Wyle Laboratory
representatives discussing a wide range of technical subjects and
the matter of noise, and I think with that, I will end my statement
to you, gentlemen, so I won't take up too much time.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. I especially  appreciate the
comments that  you made calling  to our attention your views re-
garding not only the need for uniformity of standards, but what
needs to go into the standards  and regulations, because this really
is a matter of deep concern to the agency. It's one in which such
forthright  statements as yours is important to us,  and it's im-
portant that we have this sort of thinking, so we can work toward
coming up with meaningful approaches to this. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. What fraction of heavy vehicles are re-
placed every year?
  Mr. DAMIAN. I am  afraid  I couldn't answer that. Roger, do
you know?
  Mr. JEBLE. No, I couldn't answer that, either.
  Mr. HINTON. I  would  just like to have a copy of your statement,
Mr. Damian.
  Mr. DAMIAN. When I get back and put it in editorial form—I
have been crossing out, in  an  effort to save  some time for  you, I
will do it.
   Professor PLACER. Is  it Damian?
   Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, not related to Pythias.
  Professor PLACER. I  thought your statement was  a very good
one. I liked the tone of it  very much. It's a tone  of  positive co-
operation and recognition  of a problem we  all share. Let  me be
sure I have got a couple of things straight; it's sort of hard to catch
everything orally like that.  I understood—I take it  that your com-
pany meets the California  standards with regard to vehicles  that
are now  being sold in California?
   Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, sir.
   Professor PLACER. That  is a self-evident question,  isn't it? Did
I understand you to say that it was your goal to meet those  stand-
ards for all your vehicles by January 1, 1973 ?
   Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, sir.
   Professor PLACER. Now,  what does that mean ? Does that mean
you will  provide an optional package, or does that mean all your
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  Mr. DAMIAN. Let me perhaps go into a little detail on that.
Our passenger cars, having better ideas, are going to be the same,
and are the same.
  Professor PLACER. What do you mean "the same?"
  Mr. DAMIAN. In other words, the exhaust system that we pro-
vide for California we provide for  the rest  of the country today,
our passenger cars.
  Professor PLACER. As a matter of basic construction?
  Mr. DAMIAN. That's right, sir.
  Professor PLACER. It's  not  something the purchaser has to
specify?
  Mr. DAMIAN. No, it's not, that's right. He has no choice. He
takes the quiet package.
  Professor PLACER. How interesting.
  Mr. DAMIAN. Now, in the heavy truck line, our standard exhaust
systems are the California systems. In other words, if you  buy a
truck in California you will get an exhaust that is just like the
truck  that  you buy in Illinois, or some other place, our  heavy
trucks.
  We  do have a small group of very light vehicles that do not
have the California muffler all over the country. They are options,
and we provide those in the various areas; we provide them to the
owner if he wants them, period, and secondly, if he, obviously if
the areas that have noise control regulations, they are provided in
those areas  mandatorily.  This  would be Chicago; this would be
Colorado; this would be areas of that sort.  There are about nine
laws on the books now.
  Professor PLACER. Now, what was the meaning of the January,
1973, date?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Oh, in the current California law there is a regula-
tion that applies to vehicles built after January 1, 1971, and to
vehicles built after January 1, 1973. That is the current California
law. This is the current law, for example, in  some other areas that
have adopted regulation, or adopted laws similar to  California, so
we are working our—I was  going  to say something, but we are
working toward the establishment of a structure that will meet
the January 1 deadline.
  Professor PLACER. For all your vehicles?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, sir. Now, we—yes, go ahead.
  Professor PLACER. Are you going bankrupt or are you staying
competitive?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Well, that is another area that I wish I could re-
spond to.
  Professor PLACER. It's sort of a rhetorical question.
  Mr. DAMIAN. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. I take  it you are able to  stay competitive
and do this?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Well,  we are No. two now, whatever  that gives
you.
  Professor PLACER. Was—what is your comment on Mr. Stark-
man's statement that GM could not meet the California standards
as a matter of basic equipment and stay competitive, presumably
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  Mr. DAMIAN. Well, I don't know, because Mr. Starkman I guess
is in the same  boat that I am. We don't make the decisions about
that sort of thing. We simply work in the technical end and try to
do it. I don't know that GM's policies  are that far from policies
that I would even like to comment on—I wouldn't know how to
comment on them.
  Professor PLACER. Would it be fair to say this is apparently
a management decision rather than an economic  decision?
  Mr. DAMIAN. I couldn't even put myself in that	
  Professor PLACER. I wouldn't ask you to comment on that.
  Mr. DAMIAN. Thank you.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you,  sir.
  Dr. WHITCOMB.  One very brief  question; what constitutes a
heavy truck? What  is the limit? We have heard  50,000 to 80,000
—is 80,000 the number limit?
  Mr. JEBLE. No, 6,000 pounds and above, heavy truck by  noise
standards  and  emission control.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Up to what?
  Mr. JEBLE. Oh, it can go almost to 100,000 pounds with combina-
tions of trailers.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Is there a highway limit?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, there is an interstate limit.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Is there much  of a correlation between weight
and noise?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Yes, there would be, as Mr. Starkman mentioned
before.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Is it reasonable that one way  of controlling it
would  be  either weight limiting or another consideration, tire
noise might be speed limiting, to get down to the extreme peaks
of freeway noise?
  Mr. DAMIAN. Perhaps that is a point that might be considered.
In  other words, States  could  possibly consider the operational
mode of vehicles.
  I think  Mr.  Starkman  pointed up very eloquently in terms of
speed—in  other words, the higher you go, you introduce  additional
noises. Tires, I imagine, would be one.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you  very much, sir. We are  pleased that you
are here. Again, as I said, I offer  our apologies, but I am glad you
are all so  understanding and willing to carry this important pro-
ceeding forward. We will call now on the representatives from  the
Chrysler Corp., and we apologize  to you, too, sir,  for the delay.

        STATEMENT OF TED SHREVES, CHRYSLER CORP.
  Mr. SHREVES. I might add, my name is Ted Shreves.  I am with
the Government regulations—Government relations staff, Chrys-
ler Corp. in Detroit. I have with me today Mr. Bill Scott, who is
manager,  sound and vibration  department in our corporate engi-
neering department.
  We presumed, being third here, that anything  we might say
would be sort  of redundant. We would  be repeating what GM and
Ford had said, and having briefly read  Mr. Starkman's statement,
of GM, and Mr. Damian of Ford, they did pretty much cover  the
same ground.
  I wanted to  make one observation, and then what we thought we
could do, if you have any questions, we would try our best to  get
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  Our one big concern at this point is that we don't sacrifice safety
and air pollution for noise. This could be very easy to do in the air
pollution area something to do; in the air pollution area, of course,
one of the critical items is the exhaust system, as it is with noise.
  In safety, when you are talking tires, you could probably reduce
the noise emission  from tires, but at  the same time you could
probably be reducing the braking ability of the car, the traction of
the wheels to hold the road, the control and so on, so I am only
suggesting and hopeful that you will consider it  very carefully in
setting noise  standards.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, I think  that I should respond to that before
asking the panel if they have some questions, and I can imagine at
least one or two of these questions in advance. One of the reasons
the Environmental Protection Agency was created, of course, was
to pull together some elements  of the  Federal Government that
were  scattered around  dealing  with the  different  concerns and
considerations of the environment. So you can rest assured as an
element of the Agency, the problem  of interrelationship and sys-
tems approach to environmental concerns  will be given attention.
  We have, as a matter of fact, been working with those concerned
in the Office  of Air Pollution  Control  on the question of joint
monitoring systems as an example, or integrated noise and gaseous
contaminant  monitoring at certain locations. So  I want to assure
you that within the Environmental Protection Agency this sort of
recognition already exists, and will continue to exist, and that we
also are deeply concerned with all aspects of responsibilities of our
sister agencies in the Government. I am glad you brought this up.
  Mr. SHREVES.  It's encouraging to hear that.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Shreves, some of us who, I suppose are
the consumers of the world, are doing our part to keep the econ-
omy going, and would rather not have to turn all the time  to gov-
ernment,  Federal,  State,  or otherwise in order  to be  able  to
consume products that do not degrade our environment. We look
to corporations for leadership and responsibility.
  We just heard from two; one corporation, Ford, apparently has
made a  management decision to try  to do something- about noise
problems without having to be beaten over the head nationwide.
The other  corporation, General Motors,  seems to maintain its
historical position—which we are all familiar with—in the safety
area.  I  was wondering if you  would care to comment on what
Chrysler's management position is with  regard to this item.
  Mr. SHREVES.  Well, I don't know that we have a stated position
at this point  on  noise,  or the very definite commitment on noise.
I do know that recently—maybe you are aware of this—we have
established—and your vice chairman  of the board, an office  of pub-
lic responsibility which covers this entire  area; this  is a level in-
terest, possibly, that we didn't have 10 or 15 years ago, and I think
it shows that with a very—that we are  very definitely committed
in all areas  of  responsible  social responsibilities,  environment,
jobs, training, problems in the  city and the whole thing,  I would
think.
  Professor PLACER. Are you	
  Mr. SHREVES. We are doing approximately the same as the other
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  Professor PLACER. How about for the country?
  Mr. SHREVES. I believe ours are the same. I believe our passen-
ger cars are the same nationwide.
  Mr. SCOTT. Our 1972 production passenger cars will all be the
same.
  Professor PLACER. In other words, the California standards will
be in effect;  you will  be  producing the same  noise abatement
package uniformly?
  Mr. SHREVES. That's  right.
  Mr. SCOTT. That's right.
  Professor PLACER. What about the 1973 California standard?
  Mr. SCOTT. Yes, we will continue to build cars only one way.
  Professor PLACER. Only one way?
  Mr. SCOTT. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. How about trucks? I commend you for that,
but how about trucks?
  Mr.  SCOTT.  Trucks,  you know, and I think this has been  at-
tempted to be said several times today, are sold not always as a
complete vehicle, but as, really, a component of another vehicle so
that our customer who  orders from us a set of components, which
he then makes into a total vehicle. Now, in  various stages—and
we  deliver some vehicles without even a cab on them, they can be
made into a motor home, perhaps, so that the  customer determines
what they buy. Yes, with every one of our powerplants we offer
an exhaust system to meet the California requirements.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Again I have  to emphasize this, because it's im-
portant to the Federal Government's role, I will ask you the same
question, even though I already know  the answer: You are going
to make all your production for passenger cars  meeting the Cali-
fornia standard, but suppose  between now and the time that you
are scheduled to do that—and some of us here know a little  bit
about the production lines,  and the  fact that they  have to be
scheduled, and tools and dies  have got to be  not only bought, but
delivered—between now and  then that a large  consumer  area to
which you provide large numbers of vehicles, sets a more stringent
standard and it becomes effective at the same time, and says they
will only give you a year to perform.  Will you then manufacture
all  of the vehicles in the United  States to that standard?  Or will
you devote a  particular production line in a plant near that, since
we  know  you have other assembly plants to assemble  them
specifically for that area rather than try to meet the requirement
across the nation on a most restrictive city or State code ?
  Mr.  SCOTT. We ought to not make a hypothetical decision today
which we cannot make for you.
  Mr.  SHREVES.  Also it depends  on what the item was. It's possi-
ble something could be  made and put on by a dealer in Chicago or
somewhere else. These would probably be made available in  the
market; if it's an engine design,  or new engine,  new body style or
something like this, we couldn't possibly do it.
   Dr. MEYER. From a technological viewpoint, assuming the noise
is from a system of tires, transmission, chassis, body, if you will,
even windows, gear trains, exhausts, it's a unit that is assembled,
and once it's assembled it now becomes a  composite  source of
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the system, a transportation system built to the most restricted
one, or a number of vehicles built to meet a variety of systems for
specific market areas, wouldn't you?
  Mr. SHREVES. I would, if I understand you correctly, I believe
that is a fair statement, and at times we have had to produce cars
that are a little different in one area than in another.
  Dr. MEYER. So you have had some experience in the industry of
doing that?
  Mr. SHREVES. We have had—we prefer to make them all the
same, obviously.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank  you  very much. Anybody else on the  panel
have a question?
  Professor KERREBROCK.  You  mentioned  the  possibility  of  a
couple of technical conflicts; one is the conflict between air  pollu-
tion or  emission  control and  noise  control, and I  would like  a
clarification of  what—of that, if you could, if the conflict is only
with regard to total cost of the system, then maybe no explanation
is necessary.
  Mr. SHREVES. Well, we,  as of this moment, we don't know how
we  are going to meet the Federal emission control standards  as set
out by the 1970 Clean Air Act. We have talked in terms of catalytic
mufflers, and afterburners, and things like this. When we got done,
in order to meet that Federal standard in 1975, I am just saying it
could be  a possibility  that the noise, and for the present day ve-
hicles could go up—maybe it could go down—we don't technically
know now.
  Professor KERREBROCK. But you plead for a sane choice if there
is a conflict, and another question I would like to ask is	
  Mr. SHREVES. Then I think we have to weigh  the  priorities,
whether it's a noise problem is more important or the air pollution
problem is more important.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Specifically what you are asking  for, I
think, is that the Government make a reasonable choice between
these conflicting  alternatives, or  conflicting requirements, if  a
choice has to be made; the question is, is Chrysler Corp. prepared
to make its knowledge in both of these areas public ?
  And I would ask the same question with  regard  to tire  noise.
You see, you plead for not choosing quiet tires if they are slippery.
Do you have the information on  which such a choice could  be
made? And is  it in the public domain?
  Mr. SHREVES. I don't think we have a great deal of data on that
particular point, no. I think I am getting really into your area of
friction,  and the  tread that  grips  the tires.  Now,  they  could
possibly  be made, say, narrower,  with less tread  on them, this
type of thing,  so you  wouldn't get  as much contact with the road
surface. This would not be desirable.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  I am aware that the Department  of
Transportation has an  interest  in this, and may be doing some
work with you.  Is there  information within the  auto  manu-
facturers or the truck manufacturers which should be available to
the Government when it attempts  to set these standards?
  Mr. SHREVES. I don't believe so.
  Mr. SCOTT. There is very little information from the automobile
manufacturers  about  the design characteristic of tires. We are a
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  Professor KERREBROCK. So that these comments about noise ver-
sus antiskid properties are more or less subjective rather than
quantitative ?
  Mr. SCOTT. I think they may  be more than that. We obviously
have a dialog with our suppliers. We are obviously concerned about
the constraints that will keep us from meeting various levels, and
tires have to be one of those constraints, particularly in  a truck.
They are obviously not a maximum noise constraint in an automo-
bile, but in a truck they are, as has been mentioned here today, so
we are in dialog, and we do know that the minute we request the
quieter tire we run into the traction  and the braking, so that that
is it.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Do you mean by that that they provide
you with numbers on the traction of the tires as a function of the
noise?
  Mr. SCOTT. We are very  interested—you know, we don't get a
tire that comes labeled but we  are  very interested in a traction
capability of a tire because it affects braking, very directly, and
to meet the brake standard you have to have a tire that  will give
you added traction.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  So  then—I am still trying to get the
answer to the question, which is whether you have numbers which,
with which you can make a trade-off between noise and traction.
  Mr. SCOTT. We don't have numbers available now,  but I  think
the  National  Bureau  of  Standards, through  their testing,  is
putting together the data that would make it possible to put num-
bers on at least classes of tires, and then there are data that would
be  able to put traction numbers on  classes of tires. Yes, it could
be put together.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you very much. I hope Mr. Kigin, from the
Rubber Manufacturers Association,  when he becomes the anchor-
man and puts the  show on the road, so to speak, will have some
comments on this.  Thank you very much, gentlemen. I appreciate
your approach here. I would like now to ask Mr. D. W.  Renzel—
or  rather I would  like  to ask Mr. Richard G. Kolb, representing
him, to talk about a subject that the other manufacturers have
alluded to but that not very many people are aware of. And that
is the fact that the heavy truck is a unique animal, or unique piece
of equipment,  and  does present some problems with regard to the
setting of standards, and  I think it's most  important  that the
panel, as our advisors, has a better understanding of this  problem.
Thank you very much, also, for your patience and for preparing
this fine statement.
   Mr. KOLB. Thank you, Dr. Meyer.

              STATEMENT OF RICHARD G. KOLB,
     HEAVY DUTY TRUCK MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION
   Mr. KOLB. Ladies and gentlemen,  my name is Richard Kolb. I
am director of engineering and technical services, Heavy Duty
Truck Manufacturers Association, Washington, D.C.  The organi-
zation which I represent is a nonprofit association of heavy duty
motor truck  manufacturers  and manufacturers of associated
equipment.
   During the  past 6 years, with Federal and State governments
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to the numerous engineering,  technical and socioeconomic  prob-
lems  associated  with effective  pollution abatement,  and  noise
control. My Master's thesis was based on noise reduction from in-
ternal combustion engines, and  I'm presently on the Western High-
way Institute's Subcommittee on Vehicle Noise.
  On behalf of the association  and its membership, I appreciate
the opportunity to appear here today and present our views, com-
ments, and suggestions. Let me state unequivocally that we are
concerned with environmental  systems management and the pro-
tection of the people, as well as the surroundings. We are in agree-
ment with  and support environmental protection, as well as man-
agement and control of automotive noise for the  benefit  of the
public.
  We agree that noise pollution is severe and something must be
done. But,  limits should  be legislated which are based on  docu-
mented evidence.
  In the area of  vehicle noise, more specifically from diesel pow-
ered vehicles, there  are three speed zones which have to be con-
sidered:  idle, below 35 m.p.h. and above 35 m.p.h.
  At idle,  the major noise sources  are combustion noise and
mechanical noise. Below  35  m.p.h.,  the  sources are:  Exhaust,
mechanical, fan, air intake, body and cargo noise. Above 35 m.p.h.,
tire noise is added to the  aforementioned list.
  Recently, we have seen published reports which  indicate that
86 dBA is  possible with "at most, a change in muffler." From my
own experience,  and recently  published Society  of Automotive
Engineers'  reports,  the muffler is  only one part  of  a complex
acoustic  system. It is unrealistic to predict, let alone expect, the
performance of the  entire exhaust system to be based solely on
the muffler response characteristics. The entire  system must be
included, which means the manifold, exhaust  pipe, muffler, tail
pipe and turbocharger. Similarly, the complete analysis of the air
intake system involves more than the air cleaner.
  As another example, the following  article was  published in
the October 1969 issue of  Automobile Engineer.
  Cheswick and Wright Ltd. in England reduced the noise level of
a passenger car, with no reduction in power, by reducing the muffler
volume by  50 percent. Although this does  contradict established
theory, it  does show that quantified  tests, not  results based on
theory, is the only way to determine practical limits.
  To further illustrate the problem, the Western Highway Institute
report entitled Fundamentals of Noise and Vehicle Exterior Noise
Levels, reports the following:
  The relative noise levels from  four  major noise components from  one
type of diesel engine were recorded  as:
                                                   Decibel
     Exhaust 	86
     Mechanical 	82.5
     Fan 	82
     Air intake	79
  The total  overall noise measured by a sound level  meter was 89.5  dB.
The total noise level analytically computed from all  the  components was
89.3 dB, which shows excellent correlation (89.5 versus  89.3) between actual
measurement and analytical methods.

  They then analytically eliminated the exhaust and mechanical
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level would then be only 83.8 dB. A reduction of only 5.5 dB by
eliminating completely; exhaust 86 dB and mechanical 82.5 dB,
noises? This should clearly point out the problem involved in at-
tempting to reach lower overall vehicle noise levels.
  Our membership continues to expend large amounts of money
for research, development and testing to reduce noise from internal
combustion engines. The examples I've presented indicate the prob-
lems the manufacturers face. However, let me assure you they are
diligently working toward and will  continue to reduce overall ve-
hicle noise. But, the road ahead is  a slow one, the largest noise
reduction possible is already in effect. New research and techniques
will reduce noise, but at a much smaller rate. Some of the proposed
noise levels cannot be  expected to be reached with  current  tech-
nology.
  Currently, the National Highway  Traffic Safety Administration
has Docket 69-2 pending, which will increase the horsepower of
heavy duty trucks for highway safety. If approved,  this docket
will effect an increase in the vehicle  noise level. On the other hand,
the Environmental Protection  Agency is anticipating reducing
further, the pollutants  from diesel powered vehicles. Information
from manufacturers indicate that larger displacement engines, with
the same horsepower rating as today's engines is the most likely
answer to meet future EPA emission standards. In effect,  this
would assist in holding  down noise pollution. However, if the stand-
ards from both agencies must be met,  then we can  expect larger
engines and higher noise levels.
  It is also quite  possible that the National Highway Traffic Ad-
ministration's Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 121 will affect high-
way noise. This standard sets a stopping distance which all vehicles
must meet. However, stopping distance is a function  of highway
surface texture, tire tread pattern and brake lining friction coef-
ficient. We may have, in the future, higher noise levels from vehicles
just due  to a change in some of the aforementioned factors. We
have also heard that passenger cars and heavy duty trucks should
both have the same  noise level. Unfortunately, engine noise is a
function  of power and  displacement. No one expects  that the same
power is  necessary to haul 60,000 pounds as 6,000 pounds, at equal
speeds. On the other hand,  one way to  reduce noise  is to have the
trucks reduce their speed,  however, this will increase the irrita-
bility of  the passenger car driver,  traffic jams and dramatically
affect our economy. Realistically, we should not expect equal  noise
levels from passenger cars  and trucks.
  In the  area  of Federal legislation, it is our conviction that one
law, nationwide, will be in the best interest of all concerned.  With
the advent of the interstate system, our economy  can  ill afford to
have 50  or more  different  State or city laws and ordinances on
noise control. It would  appear that Federal legislation in this field
should preempt all proposed and presently enacted noise legisla-
tion, whether it be city, county or State level. Further, we would
endorse, that EPA also set noise standards, again preemptive, on
equipment already in use and that  a reasonable time  limit be set
before older equipment has to be replaced. The  best  estimate on
the current life span of heavy duty trucks is about 10-15 years.
  Gentlemen, our country is called the United States, 50 individual
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is uniform, nationwide and federally sponsored whenever it con-
cerns the safety, health and welfare of the people.
   Thank you for your attention.

                           Summary
   Vehicle noise emanates  from combustion, intake, mechanical,
fan, tires, body, cargo and exhaust sources. Indications are, that
future reductions will probably be at a lower rate than in the past,
and some of the problems associated with further reductions have
been presented.
   Some of the questions that must be answered are:  What reduc-
tion is practical with today's technology? How will future safety
regulations affect noise? How will further reductions affect our
economy ?
   We also see a need for one Federal regulation, nationwide, not
only on new vehicles, but also on older vehicles.
   There are some attachments to my testimony.
   Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much for an excellent discourse on
this problem, and also for at least alerting my office to another
Federal agency's pending consideration  on the matter of interest
and concern of our collective responsibilities, which  certainly we
will want to talk with them about.  The attachments will be in-
cluded with the  record.*
   Before asking the panel, I  note that you make the statement
that some of the proposed noise  levels and some of the legislation
apparently cannot be expected to be reached, and this has seem-
ingly been the expression of several other witnesses. What is the
principal problem, in the lack of technology or is it a  complex	
   Mr. KOLB. It's a rather complex  problem.  It's not a simple
problem. It, as some of  the other people before me testified, if
you quiet one area,  then another area crops up.  If you quiet that
one, another one comes in; you almost don't see the end of the
line.
   Dr. MEYER. Panel.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. Do you see any relief in going all the way to a
completely  new design in the next 10 years  which might incor-
porate something like a jet engine for trucks?
   Mr. KOLB. I really am not in a position to say anything on that.
I  would say  it would depend—what are the  people  willing to
pay for?
   Dr. WHITCOMB. And then a second point, somewhere along the
line in your presentation you mentioned the English  study.
   Mr. KOLB. Yes.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. That was where a muffler was reduced by 50
percent in volume,  and  without reducing power, did reduce the
noise level, contradicting established theory.
   Mr. KOLB. That's right.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. You mean established theory for mufflers is the
bigger the volume the less the noise?
   Mr. KOLB. That is correct.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. Without  resonating or any  other effect?
   Mr. KOLB. Even taking the resonating frequencies into account,
this is what the theory  says; you go to a bigger  volume, you
should reduce the noise.
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  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir.
  Next  I  would like to  ask  Mr. Roger Ringham,  International
Harvester Co., who appeared  before our panel in Atlanta and has
given most  useful  information  about  one of  his organization's
interest, to come forward.
  Mr. RINGHAM. This is Mr.  Richard L. Staadt, who is our chief
product development engineer in our truck division.

             STATEMENT OF ROGER F. RINGHAM,
                INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER
  Mr. RINGHAM. As I mentioned  in Atlanta, we are a multidivision
company,  with our divisions  somewhat  autonomous, and particu-
larly in the line of trucks we are probably the closest to  it of
any of our operations. Dick is a  good spokesman for that subject.
We have prepared  our presentation, and Dick will present it.
  Dr. MEYER.  You may proceed.
  Mr. RINGHAM. Thank you. International Harvester  Co. manu-
factures and sells  on and off  highway transportation equipment;
that is, a  full line  of utility passenger  vehicles and motor trucks
ranging from a small four-wheel drive  vehicle  to large over-the-
road semitrailer diesel tractors  and  on-off highway oil field  and
constructor  trucks. Our truck division  operations produce an al-
most limitless variety of vehicles in that many options of engines,
drivelines, cabs, suspensions,  frames, et cetera,  are offered.
  Today we would like  to review typical truck noise, its sources
and  measures involved in controlling  truck noise.  Finally,  we
would like to comment on the overall approach  to legislative con-
trol of highway vehicle noise. Most comments will be directed
toward large diesel-powered units which compared to lighter ve-
hicles produce more noise and are of most concern to the public.
  We should point  out that the small passenger-utility vehicles are
presently  limited to 86 dBA at 50 feet and the larger units are 88
dBA maximum to conform  with existing  regulations of some
States and cities.
  We would like to review a  cross section of our product line.
  Dick.
  Mr. STAADT. By  the way, as brought out earlier, the  California
law does have provisions for  a tightening of this requirement in
1973. The present is 88 on heavy vehicles and 86 on  light,  and
in 1973, starting  January  1, 1973,  this has dropped  2 dBA in
each case, makes the heavy vehicles 86,  and the light 84.
  [Showing of first slide in series.]
  This is  our smallest vehicle—the Scout. It is  available as a two-
or four-wheel drive vehicle; however, generally is sold  as a four-
wheel drive for  recreational and utility  use, on and off  the
highway.  Engines  offered include  four-cylinder, six-cylinder  and
V-8. The  Scout is  built  at our Fort Wayne, Ind., plant.
  [Showing of next slide in  series.]
  This is  the Travelall which is  a heavy duty station wagon used
for recreation such as trailer towing,  family  transportation, or
for business use in the panel  version. Six-cylinder and  a full line
of V-8 engines are available.
  [Showing of next slide in  series.]
  The IH  pickup line—available in a full range of sizes, two- and
four-wheel drive,  six- and  eight-cylinder engines. The Travelall
pickup line  are manufactured at our Springfield, Ohio, facility.

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   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   This  is the Loadstar  line for general light  commercial uses,
either as a semitrailer  tractor  or straight  truck  shown here.
V-8 gasoline and light-duty diesels are available in this line built
at our Springfield, Ohio, factory.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The Cargostar is a cab over engine version of the Loadstar.
It features unusual maneuverability for in-town  delivery opera-
tions.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The Fleetstar  is  a medium duty line  with in-line diesel  (as
opposed to V-configuration)  engines. Principally an over-the-road
tractor manufactured at Fort Wayne,  Ind.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The CO Transtar line is a cab-over-engine long-haul  tractor.
This model is built at Fort Wayne, Ind., and San  Leandro, Calif.
It accommodates seven basic diesel engines, three cab lengths, and
approximately 14 exhaust system arrangements. Each of the many
combinations of these components requires  a  separate noise con-
trol development. This variety is typical of all heavy duty model
lines.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The conventional Transtar is the  long-hood version  of  this
series. This vehicle is used as on or off highway vehicle, featured
with  a wide  line of diesel engines. Again, this model is manu-
factured both at  Fort Wayne and San Leandro.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
   The 210-230 series is an extra heavy on-off  highway  vehicle.
In addition to the mixer  configuration  shown here, it is also very
popular in oil field special applications.
   Let us now get to sound levels.
   Highway  sound  levels are measured  per SAE recommended
practice  J-366. This procedure involves  maximum noise under
35 m.p.h. as would be experienced by an observer 50 feet from
the road. To produce maximum noise the vehicle is at full accelera-
tion at  maximum engine speed.
   Sound levels on our small vehicle, namely the Scout, Travelall,
or Pickup are a maximum  of 86  dBA at  full engine speed  and
acceleration under  35 m.p.h. Under these severe  conditions, the
engine exhaust and possibly cooling  fan  are  the  predominant
sound sources. Under normal part throttle  cruise  conditions, the
noise levels are quite  low and  characterized by  tire and wind
noise. Only in the case of poor maintenance or alteration of the
exhaust system is noise from small vehicles  a problem with an 86
dBA requirement (J-366).
  The criteria  for regulations must reflect test  conditions  and
procedures specified for  verification of compliance. For example,
when considering regulation levels for manufacturers, care should
be taken not to base full throttle, full  engine speed requirements
on observed part throttle cruiseby levels.
  Vehicles which contribute the most to  highway noise  are the
large diesel powered trucks. Several noise  sources are inherent
in these units:
      1. Exhaust noise—Here we mean noise at the muffler or
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      2. Cooling fan—The fan  moves  large  quantities of  air
    through the radiator against quite high restriction.
      3. Engine  air intake—The engine air intake  emits  noise
    due to the pulsating air movement.
      4. Engine  mechanical and combustion—The sharp  pres-
    sure rise  in the diesel combustion  chamber  results in  noise
    being radiated from the engine surfaces.
      5. Tire and wind noise—This includes tire rolling and wind
    noise plus other small noise sources.
  The total sound  emitted  by a  representative  diesel truck in
compliance with existing regulations would be 88 dBA. This total
noise  is produced  by the above sources as shown in slide 10. Note
that several of the individual five  (5) sources approach the total
vehicle level.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Let's  take a look at what happens if  we completely eliminate
certain  sound sources.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  For example, if we  eliminate the 84 dBA exhaust noise by a
theoretically perfect muffler, the total noise level would  only drop
to 86  dBA. This illustrates the fact that larger and better mufflers
alone  are  not  the solution to heavy vehicle noise.
  Similarly, if other single  sources are eliminated, only a slight
drop  in overall noise is realized.  Since exhaust  noise cannot be
eliminated completely,  the only approach which can reduce  over-
all levels is to lower all sources which individually approach  the
level of the total.  Such an approach was taken in the case of  the
88 dBA vehicle in the  foregoing  example.
  The measures employed were:
      1. The  cooling fan was run at a slower  speed  to reduce
    fan noise and  radiator size increased to  offset the loss in
    cooling air flow.
      2. A larger,  more efficient muffler reduced exhaust noise.
      3. The air intake noise was reduced by an improved silencer
    relocated  from the side of  the hood to  the front to direct
    sound away from  observers.
      4. Shields  around the engine compartment now block  en-
    gine radiated mechanical and combustion noise.
  The resulting overall noise  level is now 86 dBA. It  should be
noted that most of these modifications  required  considerable  re-
design thereby making retrofitting extremely expensive if  not
impossible.
  We need to emphasize  that not all vehicles respond to  these
measures. Other models and engine combinations require redesign
of this degree just to  meet the present requirement of 88 dBA
established by some States and communities.
  We consider 86 dBA to be the next plateau  in heavy truck noise
control. Major cooling fan development programs and  further
engine shielding will be required  to meet this level. To  get below
86 dBA will involve extensive programs in engine and cooling
system redesign and development. This will involve several years
in time and is likely to  reflect  considerable increase in cost to
the user.
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   One additional factor at higher road speeds is tire noise. The
familiar high pitched whine in some cases overshadows the sources
discussed earlier. This noise is caused by certain tire tread designs
of the type shown in  Slide 12, which either aerodynamically or
mechanically react with the  road surface to produce  noise.  This
sound carries long distances,  particularly as the  vehicle moves
away from the observer.
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   The relationship of high-speed tire noise  to other vehicle-pro-
duced noise is shown in slide 13. Note that at low  speeds tire
noise is not a factor with any tread design. But as speed increases,
the noisy tire contribution can become quite predominant, over-
shadowing other sources.
   We feel the best way  to regulate and minimize tire noise is
through control of tire tread designs allowed on  the  market.  In
this way, offending tires could not  be inadvertently installed as
replacements and would be phased out of highway use in a rela-
tively short time.
   The relationship of  maximum noise to normal operation noise
is different for small vehicles than for large vehicles.  The power
to weight ratio for a passenger type vehicle is high enough that
normal operation is  at light throttle. This lighter engine  load
causes less  sound than full  throttle at maximum engine speed
(J-366) trucks.  Their power  is low compared to their  weight.
The operator must operate the engine at maximum power, speed,
and noise level much of the time.
   Regulations or sound limits  for the vehicle user should not  be
lower than those required of the manufacturer or user  at the time
the vehicle was built.  The operator, or manufacturer, for  that
matter, has no means  of  making the vehicle quieter than it was
when originally built.  As shown earlier, significant sound reduc-
tions by retrofit programs generally are not  practical.
  Regulations cannot  be effective without proper enforcement.
Our experience in sound measurement has shown that there is as
much  art and subjective judgment as science  in this activity;
thus, we feel enforcement personnel must  be  trained in  noise
surveillance and operate at the carefully selected sites which are
required for accurate  readings.
  As we previously indicated,  our products are sold nationwide,
and in fact, worldwide. It may be a long  time  before there are
international standards for noise control.  But we do  hope  that
within the United  States the  Federal regulations will preempt
all  State and local controls. We further urge that  these require-
ments be developed and announced  well in advance of their ef-
fective  date. This  will permit the  economies that result  from
orderly product development and implementation which, depend-
ing on  degree of change, can require up  to several  years. We
appreciate the opportunity to make this presentation before your
group and hope it is helpful to you.*
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much, sir. It has indeed been help-
ful. This provides information that  we will  not only  find useful
in the report to Congress, but  also in whatever standard setting
activity  we  undertake, given  some  authority by  the  Congress.
Panel?
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  Dr. WHITCOMB.  Is your company doing any R. & D. activity
on truck engines, other than strict diesel engines  as far as quiet
engines ?
  Mr. RINGHAM. Our efforts are primarily devoted to the diesel
engine because it is the bigger problem; the quieting of the gaso-
line engine, yes,  we are working on that. However, it's primarily,
Dick, a matter of mostly exhaust intake treatment, isn't it?
  Dr. MEYER. I believe the question, as I understand it, is are you
exploring some alternatives to the diesel ?
  Mr. RINGHAM. I am sorry, we have—we ran an experimental
program with our solar division on a  strict experimental turbine
several years ago.  We learned enough to know it was  a big  de-
velopment—it was bigger than we were, but it alerted us  to  the
fact that that is  a potential, and, Dick, if I am recalling correctly,
that  particular  experimental installation, it was only  partially
treated noisewise. The passby noise there was in the low eighties ?
  Mr. STAADT. Yes. That is  correct.
  Mr. RINGHAM. In terms of dBA noise level, I  can't recall  the
exact number,  but that is the kind of thing that might be attain-
able  at a price. This, incidentally, was a turbine configuration. It
wasn't exactly fuel economy oriented, but it was  one that drove
a truck.
  Professor PLACER. You indicate that you have a variety of noise
control  developments  depending upon the package, the vehicle
package that is put together. I take it when you package  a vehicle
with the appropriate noise  packaging to go  with it you meet
California standards,  that you sell in  California?
  Mr.  STAADT. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Now, do you routinely package that vehicle
the same way for other States as well?
  Mr. STAADT. Yes. We  have one package.
  Professor PLACER. You have one package?
  Mr. STAADT. Yes.
  Professor PLAGER. No options?
  Mr. STAADT. No options which are allowed.
  Professor PLACER. No options which are allowed.
  Mr. RINGHAM. Excuse me, I might just interrupt, Dick, since
we are  a multi-industry related  product, company, I  wanted to
hit a technicality here; that is, what Dick says is  totally true  for
the highway vehicles. For certain off-highway requirements  we
do that, with all our farm tractors and that kind  of thing.
  Professor PLAGER.  That is  a  separate problem. Perhaps  we
should get to that sometime, but  let's talk only about	
  Mr. RINGHAM. There  are separate hearings on that.
  Professor PLACER. Certainly earlier  ones.
  What about the  comment that we heard earlier from some of
the large vehicle manufacturers that it can't be done  the way
you are doing it?
  You are  obviously doing something wrong,  I gather, because
it's not supposed to be  done this way because everybody has a
different requirement.
  Mr. RINGHAM. I think you will find there is  a majority  of  one
who  said that.
  Professor PLAGER. Thank you.
  Mr. RINGHAM. I might further add that recently we became  No.
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  Professor PLACER. I can see why.
  Dr.  MEYER. I have  one other question. Do you provide any
assistance to your customer if  he comes in with a special order
package, such as putting a concrete mixer on one of your chassis?
Or is this purely up to him, or do you have some relationship as
an example, such as a concrete mixer driving in California will
have to have a variance to travel down the highway or will have
to meet their law?
  Mr. STAADT. Well, the law in California, the user law in Cali-
fornia is somewhat higher—not somewhat, but some higher than
the manufacturer law, and the manufacturer  law applies to  the
basic vehicle, and what the customer does with it, then,  he  has
to worry about  whether it  does  meet the user  law.  We  cannot
control what goes in the back of our trucks.
  Dr. MEYER. I understand that. Thank you very much. We look
forward to  seeing you  in Denver. Our next witness represents
another industrial organization that participated in Atlanta, Ga.,
with us, and asked if they might appear here today. And I  am
most pleased to ask Mr. Hasten from the Caterpillar Tractor Co.,
if he still is of a mind to talk with us, to come and talk with us.
Sir, nice to see you.
  Mr.  HASTEN. Thank you.

   STATEMENT OF JACK HASTEN, CATEPILLAR TRACTOR CO.
  Mr.  HASTEN. Mr.  Chairman, members of the  panel, my name
is Jack Hasten. I am manager of the products control department
of Caterpillar Tractor  Co.,  with  headquarters in  Peoria, 111.  I
am here today to discuss our efforts  in reducing noise  levels of
our diesel truck engines.
  [Showing of next slide in  series.]
  This discussion will stress three major areas: Exhaust noise,
cooling fan  noise and the noises internally generated within  the
engine. My remarks  are included as appendix  NN in  a more de-
tailed treatment of this subject, eight copies of which are in your
hands.*
  Caterpillar is concerned about noise levels emanating from its
truck engines as they are heard by both the truckdriver and  the
spectator. While we have done work  which may be relevant to
reduction of "in-cab" noises, our emphasis today will be  on  the
noise levels heard by the so-called spectator.
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  The noise heard by  the spectator as a truck passes by  is  the
result of a combination of many individual noises. A  partial  list
of sources of such noises would include the transmission, chassis,
trailer,  body or cargo,  aerodynamic  noises,  horns,  tires, plus
engine noises. It is  important  to  remember that  each  of these
noise  sources must be treated individually in order to effect sig-
nificant reductions of the total noise  heard. Even a single com-
ponent such as an engine has a large  number of individual noise
sources.  It is common  to discuss these  under the three  broad
headings of exhaust, cooling fan, and a combination of mechanical
and combustion noises.
  We have studied exhaust noise in depth, yet much  remains to
be learned. What we do know is that  exhaust  mufflers are avail-
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able which can effect significant reductions in noise at reasonable
costs.
  Acquiring good, reliable data on something which would appear
to be as simple as a muffler is not really all that simple. This is a
specially built muffler test facility located at our technical center.
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  The  building is as  soundproof as we can practically make it.
Engines are set up in this building and run under load, with the
only external outlet from the engine being the exhaust  stack.
Mufflers can be attached to this stack such that the exhaust noise,
muffled or unmuffled, can be measured in almost total isolation
from other engine noises.
  Not  only does Caterpillar have such a facility, but in order to
do joint development  work most efficiently, our primary supplier
of mufflers, the Donaldson Co., also uses this type of test facility.
Caterpillar loans  engines to Donaldson as we jointly work on the
problem  of developing better and better  mufflers,  to  minimize
both noise and back pressure.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  This shows the results of muffler development work done on
one of  our truck engines. With no muffler, the exhaust noise level
measured 50 feet  from the engine was 92.5 dBA. The first muffler
applied reduced this to 78 dBA and resulted in a back pressure
in the  exhaust stack equivalent to  16 inches of water.  The next
muffler reduced the noise level to 74.5 dBA, but the back pressure
increased rather drastically to 41  inches of water. Notice that the
next muffler  not  only reduced the noise  level  by 3.5  dBA, but
also reduced the back pressure to 32 inches of water.
  You  may have  received conflicting information as to the harm
done to diesel engines by the application of mufflers. Back pres-
sure above certain  levels can  be detrimental to a diesel  engine.
Since this level  varies with engine type, ratings,  et cetera,  we
can only speak for Caterpillar on this matter. Our standards for
maximum levels of back pressure on our engines are 20 inches of
water for turbocharged engines and 25 inches of water for natural-
ly aspirated  engines.
  The  1693 is a  turbocharged engine, so we and Donaldson have
to do additional work to  lower  the  back pressure to 20  inches of
water.  I would emphasize the importance of such work, since the
reduction of  21.5 dBA accomplished through  the use  of  muffler
"C" represents a reduction  in the  noise felt by our ears to less
than one-fourth that of the unmuffled engine.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Caterpillar  is  not limiting its  work on  diesel engine exhaust
noise reduction to the application of mufflers.  That work is ex-
tremely important  in that the results  are applicable relatively
quickly. Longer range, we hope to accomplish further reductions
by gaining a better understanding of the sources of exhaust noise.
We are doing very basic research on the effects of engine speed,
load, turbocharging and  valve lash on exhaust  noise.
  [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Next, we would like to share with you  some of the work we
are doing to reduce noise generated by the engine cooling fan.
Very basic to this work is an understanding of the phenomena
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noise. This chart shows that the noise generated by a typical fan
used on one of our  engines  varies from 100  decibels at 2,000
r.p.m. to 85 decibels at 1,000 r.p.m. A plot of airflow versus fan
speed would have  a similar shape.  The  noise  reduction  of 15
decibels in our illustration would be achievable only if a reduction
of airflow on the order of one-half would  be  acceptable.
  In attacking this problem  on our vehicular  products, we are
finding  that in  nearly every  instance,  larger  diameter,  slower
speed fans are required. In most cases,  a  larger radiator is  also
a necessity.  Reduction of spectator fan noise levels involve some
very delicate tradeoffs. These are not limited  to the economics of
larger fans and radiators. Intangibles such as the effect on  safety
as these larger components adversely affect driver visibility must
be taken into account.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  As with exhaust  noise and mufflers, Caterpillar is not taking a
complacent attitude that  it is up to the fan and radiator manu-
facturers to provide solutions to fan noise problems. We are doing
basic research in such areas as uneven spacing of fan blades, guide
vanes, basic radiator  configuration, annular  shrouding of fans,
and  fans  with airfoil blading.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Moving now to the internally generated noises  of the  engine
itself, I'm sure you can appreciate that this is a very complex
subject  area. As has been stressed so often, noise reduction work
increases  in complexity as the number  of individual sources of
noise increases. This is a  list of sources of engine noise by broad
categories. Each of these, combustion, piston  slap,  bearing clear-
ance, valve  train,  turbocharger, fuel system,  gear trains,  and
auxiliaries represent multiple noise  sources  within each  broad
category.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  As we started to home in  on some of  these individual sources,
we found that highly specialized test facilities are required. Fol-
lowing a worldwide investigation in 1969, Caterpillar contracted
with List-Rosen-Wittek Associates, Inc. of Graz, Austria, to con-
duct a detailed investigation into the sources and magnitudes of
noises  generated internally  by a production model 1673  diesel
truck engine. In our opinion Dr. List and his people had the most
advanced technology, both in terms of people and facilities, avail-
able  anywhere in the world to  teach  us the maximum  in  the
minimum amount of time.  This shows  that  engine in the List
semianechoic test cell where this work was done.
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  We now have our own semianechoic test cell and are hard at
work closing any technology gaps which may exist. Incidentally,
the List people felt that acoustic treatment of  such components
as the oil pan, valve cover and timing gear cover might result in
a reduction of noise levels at a distance of  one meter on the order
of 3  to 4 dBA. Extensive internal redesign would,  in  their view,
yield an additional  2  to 3 dBA reduction.  Because the 1673 was
basically a very quiet engine, the List report concluded that re-
duction  of internally generated noise beyond 5 to 7  dBA could
only  be  achieved  by encapsulating  the engine,
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  Here is an example of what such an enclosure might look like.
This four-cylinder Caterpillar  D330 engine  was completely en-
closed in fiberglass. This early work has not yielded very promis-
ing results. We had hoped to achieve something on the order of
a 20 dBA reduction, but wound up with only about six. Work of
this nature will continue, but we recognize that this is a long-range
development program.
  In the meantime we are doing what we can,  given the current
state-of-the-art, with respect to reducing noise levels by acoustical
engine enclosures  on our machines, as represented by  this D8
tractor. A thorough description of that work is contained in the
testimony we submitted at the Atlanta hearing on July 8.
  In our opinion, much of the technology we have utilized on our
own prime  products  would  be applicable to noise suppression
work on the engine enclosure of a truck. We stand ready, willing,
and even anxious to share that technology with interested truck
manufacturers.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Other data we are gathering and analyzing relate to differences
in noise  levels emanating from different  types  of engines. This
chart shows the noise levels emanating from two different types
of diesel engines at conditions of high idle  and at full load of
about 300 horsepower. The precombustion chamber diesel, shown
on the bottom, is some 10 decibels quieter than the direct injection
engine sho\yn on the top. Also, notice that the prechamber engine
noise level is much less affected by variations in load than is the
direct injection  engine.  Since  Caterpillar builds both types of
these engines,  we want  to  understand  these  differences more
completely.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  In Atlanta, we  told you what we  are  doing to  build  quieter
construction machinery. We  could do that because we build the
entire machine. Today, we have confined our  remarks to the only
component of an on-highway truck we build, the diesel  engine.
We are not qualified to  make specific recommendations as to how
to build  a quieter truck, rather how to build a quieter diesel
truck engine.
  Let me generalize with you a moment and suggest  that there
could be three general approaches taken to building quieter diesel
truck engines. We, as an engine manufacturer,  could go it alone,
sharing our findings with no one.
   [Showing of next slide in series.]
  Truck manufacturers could also try to attack the problem, seek-
ing no counsel from the engine people. Alternatively, the engine
and truck manufacturers can work jointly on the problem, treat-
ing the engine and truck as a system.
  In such a working relationship, we  regard it as  our responsi-
bility to  work as we have with people like Donaldson  to develop
the best  possible exhaust muffler for each of our engines. It is
then our responsibility to share such  information with the truck
manufacturers. Similarly, we must continue to work on  cooling
system noise reduction. Here again, we owe  the truck manufac-
turers specific recommendations as to radiator  and fan combina-
tions which will minimize noise, yet adequately cool our  engines.
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products, we are learning how  to  acoustically treat engine en-
closures. We do not feel we have a  responsibility to design truck
engine enclosures. We will, however, welcome the opportunity to
share our technology in this area with those truck manufacturers
who seek it.
  Based on the work we have done on our own vehicles, Cater-
pillar feels it can  reduce  diesel truck engine noise to certain
levels working independently. If those levels prove unacceptable,
it is our opinion that further reductions may be achieved most
efficiently by treating the engine and truck as a system.
  Thank you, gentlemen.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Hasten,  thank you very much for  an excellent
presentation, and also I would like to commend you for your atti-
tude of standing ready to share  your knowledge with those who
need it—meaning the industry at large and  the  government at
all  levels.  I think  it's an excellent attitude,  and one  which we
appreciate very much, particularly since one of the responsibilities
the Environmental Protection Agency will have, assuming it gets
the legislation that Congress is now considering, will be not only
setting standards, but setting those standards in advance of pro-
viding information as to the technology that is available. As  you
know, one of our fundamental approaches to standard setting is
to come up with first an estimation of  what the problem is  and
where  the noise or other  environmental insult comes  from  and
then to find the ranges of  effect  and what the means  of control
are. And I look forward to our communicating with  you further
in that regard,  along with  your  other colleagues in the industry.
I think this is a most good position to take. It's evidence of good
corporate citizenship. Panel?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Indeed you have  a tremendous  program going
on, and you should be complimented on  it.
  Mr. HASTEN. Thank you.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Two things occur to me; one is with the en-
capsulated engine, would it be feasible to  attempt to look into a
diesel,  electric  diesel to  get  rid of transmission problems  and
things like  that more fully  encapsulated engine—just a comment,
unless you have worked on  it. The other thing, in air conditioning
units you  get better airflow  often  with the cage type fan,  and
certainly much quieter transmission of air. Have you looked into
a nonblade, but rather a cage-type  fan with  trucks? And  third,
I don't know why you test  mufflers  when all you need is a larger
volume to get noise  reduction—I am being facetious.
  Mr. HASTEN. Yes, I know you are. We have done  work in the
areas you mention.  It's not included as material, it's not of the
stage, I think, where you would want to share it openly. We would
be happy to share it with any of your people. It's not in production.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Hasten, how  long has Caterpillar  had
this program of research  and development for  quieting of the
noise program?
  Mr. HASTEN. Well, I would say that this effort was intensified
really starting in the early sixties;  I think it's fair to say that
prior to the early  sixties  we built, you know, the hew and cry
was for more horsepower and more performance, and it wasn't
the orientation, indeed, on the part of the user or society as a
whole—we  weren't  aware  that we  were being as obnoxious as
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  Professor PLACER. What was the impetus for your company
undertaking this program as  early as the sixties?
  Mr. HASTEN. An awareness—I have talked here strictly about
truck engines, but  the operator on one of our larger earthmoving
machines is subjected to some pretty high  noise levels,  and we
began to get reaction to that.
  I think things like the application of the turbocharger to our
engine started to teach us that the turbocharger itself was a good
silencing device;  operators  liked the  turbocharger—the turbo-
charged tractor. It was these kinds  of things that got us started
on this,  and I would say in all candor that as this kind of thing
has gained  more  prominence,  and  laws have  been passed,  it's
obviously accelerated this  activity. I don't want to suggest that
it hasn't.
  Professor PLACER. But is it fair to say this was in the nature
of a self-imposed corporate responsibility, at the outset, at least?
  Mr. HASTEN. Yes, sir.
  Professor  PLACER. Fine.  I  would  like  to, as  a downstate
Illinoisan, Mr.  Chairman,  I would like the  record to show that
Caterpillar is a downstate Illinois firm.
  Dr. MEYER. The  record will so show.
  Mr. HiNTON. I just have one brief  question. Can you tell  us
whether your obvious concern for  the  environmental  effects  of
your products have paid off, do you think, in the marketplace?
  Mr. HASTEN. Oh, that is a  little  hard to  say at this point. If
you had heard  our story in Atlanta,  and some of the others, you
would understand  we are in quite  a race to meet some of  the
OSHA  requirements on our equipment,  which include,  in  our
opinion—although  I guess there is  a difference of  legal  opinion
on this—the noise criteria; it is now part of the  Occupational
Health Safety Act. It's not a moratorium declared until January
of 1972.  We are scrambling on some  of our machines  to meet
this, so I am not going to stand up here and say we have a great
competitive edge in our construction machinery, and that we are
reaping tremendous benefits  from   it.  We think  we will,  but
whether it's  commercial, there are  good competitive reasons to
do these things, unquestionably.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Two brief questions. One is  are you
working on the gas turbine still?
  Mr. HASTEN. Yes, sir.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Do you see it as  a promising  solution
to any of these problems, or is it too far off?
  Mr. HASTEN. The work that we are—you have an illustration
here in the brochure of an on-highway truck with  a Caterpillar
turbine  engine in  it. I  have to say about  what the man from
International said, that engine was  not designed for on-highway
truck use. Its fuel consumption was horrible. No trucker  would
have bought  it.
  Our  experience  suggests that in  order to be competitive,  a
turbine  engine has to be  a regenerative type to be competitive
for on-highway use, and the turbines we have looked at that are
in the horsepower  range that we are interested in here, let's say,
300 to 500 horsepower, by the time you put a regenerative device
on  it, and  then adequate intake air muffling, and  deal with a
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we are rather persuaded that the magnitude of the two jobs, of
quieting one of the two engines to a given level, are comparable.
  Now, 20 years from now this could all be different, but from
the work we have done, that is about as succinctly as I can answer
your question. We see no real edge for either.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Okay. Another question;  you broke
down this problem of mechanical noise a little more than anyone
else has, and you mentioned some things like valve lash and piston
slap  and so on;  I wonder if you have any feeling at all  for how
this mechanical  noise problem varies with the age of the engine.
Can it get very much worse as the engine goes through the wear
cycle, will  it  give  problems in regulation?
  Mr. HASTEN.  Yes, it will. There  is a chart  in the book that I
didn't use here that  shows the effects on valve lash. I forget the
exact details,  but  there  is something  like, for thirty-five  thou-
sandths additional valve  lash the noise level  at 1 octave band
frequency was something on the order of 10  or—10 dB higher,
so—not dBA, but dB, but it was  in  a frequency  range where
dBA  and dB would  be  very comparable.
  The effect of bearing wear I am  sure is going to affect things
like gear noise as the crankshaft bearings wear, and the timing
gears no longer  mesh like they did when they were new gears are
one of the major noise sources in any piece of machinery, and they
certainly are in  an engine, in maintaining very accurate profiles
on gears is extremely important.
  We are doing  a lot of work on that.  We could fill a book three
times that thick  just on what we are doing on gears, so as a piece
of machinery wears and you lose those fine precision fits that you
build into the original engine, it's going to get noisier  and,  yes,
sir, you are going to have a problem that the operator of  this
truck, who might  normally have  gotten half a million  miles
between major engine overhauls, and still could, from other per-
formance criteria might, because of a  noise limitation you place
on him, cut that in half.  I can't give you  a specific answer, but
I can tell you  that that possibility exists.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Okay. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you again,  sir, for a very explicit and in-
formative presentation. I  had a question handed to me, sir,  by a
member of the audience. It's more  or less of a specific technical
item; if the  person  who  asked wanted to have this question
answered—which has to do with specific installation, specific re-
duction—would  identify himself, would you mind giving him the
answer to the question?
  Mr. HASTEN.  Be glad to.
  Dr. MEYER.  In the interest of  time. Thank you.
  Mr. Joseph  Kigin  will now put the show on the road. He  will
talk about the tire meeting the concrete and asphalt, and tell us,
if he  is still of a mind to do so, of what we can do about auto-
mobile and truck tires which—and  it seems sort of fitting, after
a long day, as  I said, to  where this  is, I believe  some of  our
younger friends  say, the tire  does meet the highway.

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                STATEMENT OF JOSEPH KIGIN,
           RUBBER MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION
  Mr. KIGIN. Dr. Meyer, gentlemen of the panel, I might say at
20 minutes until 7, it is a pleasure to be part of the anchor team
after a rather long day's proceedings. I  commend you for your
attention and  patience.
  As you, individually, Dr. Meyer, are aware of my function with
the tire industry, it is  that of government relations, and  this, as
you might imagine, goes directly into areas where tire noise does
go into play, or consideration.
  The question that we want to explore  with you, the issue we
want to discuss is that of tire noise, its existence, the degree of
resolution that might  be addressed to the problem, and my only
prefacing remark would be that it  is a complex problem—not
one that  is apparently simple.
  The  complexity I think  would more adequately be discussed
before this panel by my two associates, the first of whom is Mr.
Seymour Lippmann from Uniroyal,  one  of the Nation's major
tire manufacturers.
  As an  introduction to him I might say he has been  as  individ-
ually active in tire noise research and related issues  as  I think
anyone in the industry. He is the  chairman of the SAE  Special
Committee on Truck Tire Noise. He has been quite in the fore-
front of  our industry's collective  research  on truck  tire noise,
as well as that of his  own company.
  Additionally I am accompanied today by Mr. Herbert Reinert,
who is the secretary of our association's Environment Committee.
Other than the immediate discipline of acoustical problems, Mr.
Reinert is quite  conversed in  our overall ecological programs.
The essential presentation Mr. Lippmann will make. To the extent
there are questions you may Avish to have answered—and  I detect
from the previous tenor of questions to your witnesses, you  may
have something to discuss—we will be very pleased, and we would
hope that our presentation today  might be the start of a  con-
tinuing and effective   dialog  with the EPA.  Sy, if  you  would,
please.
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER : Proceed.

        STATEMENT OF SEYMOUR LIPPMAN, UNIROYAL
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Due to the short period between the announce-
ment of this meeting and the requirement for a written copy, we
sent one  out that did  not represent total  industry viewpoint,  and
as a result of this there will be an additional submission which
probably is more representative, and the submission I have placed
before you was done with telephone communication to  assure that
this is as the industry understands it.
  Dr. MEYER. We will be happy to  receive, sir, your additional
submission, and  will  incorporate it  into the  record,  along with
this initial one.*
  Mr. LIPPMANN. What I would like to do, considering the signifi-
cance of  tire noise, as  has been pointed out by a number of people,
is to indicate what the technical problems  are—and I  am  sure
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that you will want to  question me on what limitations we know
of at the moment, and where we are going—and I will try and
take as little time as possible. I realize that you are all quite
fatigued. There are two basically different types of tires that are
made for trucks;  I am going to talk primarily of trucks.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, sir.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. One type is a type of tire that is placed on the
driving wheels of the truck, and provides the accelerating torque.
The other tires are on trailing wheels and  steering wheels; they
are free rolling,  for the  most part,  except when braking takes
place.
  Although this and a special type of tire is used here, it's the
type of tire that was  shown in a  previous slide,  and it's repre-
sented by structural elements in the tread that are largely parallel
to the axis rotation of the tire, and  in the industry we refer to
these as lateral as distinct from circumferential orientation. The
ability  to deliver the  driving torque on dry  and wet  surfaces
without causing  the tread  to  crack  and tear means that there
must be sufficient number of lateral edges present in the contact
patch between tire and road.
  These edges  must be backed-up mechanically; there  must be
channels for the  elimination of water on wet surfaces, and the
supporting structures with these edges must have the right amount
of  flexibility; if  they are too flexible,  obviously you  will  have
buckling, and you will not  have transmission  of  torque. If they
are too stiff, then  primarily  what you  will get  is wear at the
edges, at the leading  edges of these elements, they will  round
off, and again they will not provide adequate, an adequate amount
of traction.
  In addition to this there is  another technical requirement; the
materials of tires as they flex generate heat.  We refer to  it as
mechanical hysteresis in our business. This heat has to be brought
out without raising the internal  temperature of the tire exces-
sively. Tire materials are very sensitive in their fatigue properties
in this  range, and therefore  for  reasons  of safety,  to keep the
tires  intact,  one must have  short cooling paths. Now,  this is
permissible  in a lateral bar design such  as you  saw,  or is  accom-
plished  there by having wide lateral grooves in between these bars.
  Well, when all  these factors  are put together there is one limi-
tation that  comes up, and that is the lug  spacing that you can
have. This  is restricted  rather  severely to a  limited range of
approximately 3 to 4 inches.
  The  limitation  on  lug spacing does several things.  One of
them is it  determines the  basic  frequency of the  tire.  It also
limits what one might do in  trying  to use a regular spacing to
break up frequency concentrations; you are not going to go too
far that way. The industry has done a great deal in that direction
—as much as it can.
  Now, the  design  considerations for  nondrive axle tires are
similar, but relaxed because the continuous driving torque is not
demanded of the tire. There  are thousands of times difference,
different in the integral, let's say, of  driving torque against time,
because—not driving  torque,  but torque, torque application. It's
for that reason these tires do not have to have the lateral designs
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  Now, in addition to the properties required for traction, there
are another set of properties required for tread wear. The lateral
bar is longer wearing than the circumference rib, in service where
there is substantial  tractive efforts; however, in  the  absence of
sustained tractive efforts, and  particularly where there is  steer-
ing,  lateral bar designs develop excessive heel and toe wear, and
cannot be used.
  The tread depth possible with lateral bars on drive axle por-
tions is about—well, I have a number here, 0.725, in that order,
and  is about half an inch  in rib designs.  This is determined  by
cooling paths and wear pattern differences.
  The net result  is that cross bar tires typically offer about two
and  a half times the mileage of continuous rib tires  on drive
axle. That is going from something in the order of 40,000 miles
in the continuous rib type to about  100,000 miles in  the lateral
bar type, and you can see that is going to have implications.
  Now, I would like to talk—that is  some basic information
relating to the mechanics of tires necessary to carry out some of
its performance requirements.
  Now, how  about the noise?  Where does it come  from?  When
a  freely rotating  tire  without tractive  effort  rolls along  the
ground, the portion of the tread in the  contact zone undergoes
compression  in the circumferential  direction. This compression
is released discontinuously, and the air  and the treading itself
is exited  by this discontinuous action. That, of course, is  the
source of noise, and this is primarily at the exit of  contact.
  In some archaic  designs, and inadvertently in some designs
that manufacturers put out, there  is another phenomenon that
occasionally takes place, and that is a cupping action where there
is a concave surface developed or designed into the  tire,  and this
concave surface causes a cup compression of air discontinuously,
and release of this compressed air  or its  sucking in of the air at
the exit end of contact discontinuously, and these are the noisier
tires by far.
  This cupping process leads to the higher level of noise—highest
level of noise, but it is  a temporary thing,  and to my knowledge,
no  manufacturer  is currently  putting out tires  of this  sort, no
original tire manufacturer.
  The number of tread elements—and, of course,  this determines
the power level—the number of these elements times the velocity
that gives you the sound power radiated; were it not for the
fact that speed introduces other effects, this would be very simple;
but speed does introduce another effect, or a series of other effects.
One of them is better acoustical coupling—as the speed goes up
between the tread  element and the surrounding  air,  and  also
because of the effect of speed  on the slippage process that leads
to this discontinuous action, there is greater energy stored in the
snapping  action  at  higher speeds,  so the net results that many
measurements have shown that in  the range of  interest, or the
range of experimentation, and the range of interest, that there
is about 3.3 dB  increase  per  10 miles an hour. This  has been
alluded to before in rather descriptive terms, but not in quantita-
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  We also find surprisingly, that smooth road surfaces are, create
more noise than rough road  surfaces. Well,  it's  not surprising
when you get to look  at the mechanism  a  little bit, the smooth
surfaces are  more  prone to cause discontinuous  slipping which
is periodically  regulated. The  rough surfaces cause slipping  to
occur prematurely,  with the release of compression and the exci-
tation of the  air, or lower level.
  The frequency patterns of interest—or  rather the frequency
band of interest, because there are also resonances in the tire that
affect, obviously, the snapping elements resonate, and the structure
of the tire resonates in response to it, and all things put together,
the frequency band of interest is  from about 200 hertz  to about
2,000 hertz and as far as  we can tell at the present time, the
radiation is in a wedge, primarily  from the  exit contact radiating
out—there is radiation from the side wall,  but we have not run
this down into a detailed radiation pattern at the present time.
  The National Bureau of Standards, with its wall  of silence tests,
is attempting to do that; however, the data  as presently analyzed
are not in a form that allow one to make deductions of this sort.
  Evaluation of truck tire  annoyance. The  observer  is generally
impressed with the dominant tones in  the  sound radiated by
tires, and therefore one would expect an  evaluation procedure to
emphasize the tonal concentrations in the noise.
  The jury tests thus far have been inconclusive on this point,
and the cycle acoustical reaction is still under investigation. The
dBA weighted level at fast  response has been demonstrated to be
an  important factor.
  We have taken this as a sequential analysis  in which we will
get first an approximation,  and then a refinement, and so on, and
our sequential  analysis has indicated that dBA at fast  response
is important, and it can be supplemented by  energy measurements
in the 400 to 600 hertz band. At that point  we find that when we
have made the supplementation, we find  that our ability to pre-
dict jury reactions is within jury error. However, that doesn't
necessarily prove anything; it's  nice  that  that happens,  and it
means that possibly this can lead  to a testing standard for truck
tire noise. However, we  also find  the  dBA  at slow responses  as
effective as that, and that may be because of  the duration of the
tonal concentrations.  Therefore, not everyone in  the industry,  I
might say, is satisfied with that at the moment, and  a lot  of
people who have been involved in this still feel that it will ulti-
mately  turn  out to be an appropriate weighting  of  narrow fre-
quency bands,  and perhaps the  third  octave analyses  that are
typical  are not  sufficiently—do not  sufficiently resolve the spec-
trum, and we may  have to go to 10 octaves. But that  would make
it very, very difficult to set up any kind of  testing standard.
  Now, we also find—or I should  say the Wallops Island tests of
the  National Bureau of  Standards have  indicated that  the rear
trailer  axles are  the greatest contributor  of radiated  noise;
equivalent tires placed on various axle positions,  and this  test I
am  referring to was  done  with  a 10-axle  truck, and this is  in
keeping with what we know about the  radiation pattern from
tires.
  We would  gather from this that apparently the noise radiated
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tires get caught  under the vehicle, and  do not radiate out as
effectively.
  The  control of tread noise  through rubber is a very difficult
problem. Everyone in the industry has looked at it, and here we
have a mechanical—we have,  as someone pointed out before, we
have a dichotomy of requirements. The tread rubbers also neces-
sarily produce more heat, and this precludes their use. We  can't
even use tread materials that are used for passenger tires in truck
tires, and we  have developed  materials for passenger tires  that
we very much would like to use in truck tires. The processing is
better; cost is better; reliability, so on and so forth, and wear is
better—but not under the circumstances of  truck  tire usage,
because there we run into heat failures, and jeopardize the safety
of the vehicle.
  Another  section I have here is on the ongoing technical actions
for controlling truck tire sound levels that I am aware of, and
this  may be expanded as  we hear from other members of the
industry.
  Since  1968  a  subcommittee  of the  Society of Automotive
Engineers has been working on the standard procedure for manu-
facturers evaluation  of these tire noises,  and this work is in its
final stages at the present time, and we hope we will have this to
offer the industry and  the government soon.
  The  Department of Transportation has  been doing work on
acoustical radiation patterns,  and hopefully this will have some-
thing to offer as well. They are also doing work on a study of
noise from various locations on the truck.
  The  tire  manufacturers that  are active in attempting to find
solutions that do not significantly impair the transportation  func-
tion of truck tires; this involves at least compromises among
those items noted in the earlier discussion. There are such factors
as tread designs that do not wear into cups, and that do not wear
irregularly  to promote element snapping, reduction  of undesir-
able shears, and compressions—that again would augment  snap-
ping, best possible spacings allowable moduli,  and damping  prop-
erties of the tread and materials, et cetera.
  Now, there are some  economic and social  implications to the
approaches already advanced, and I have heard a few today that
fortunately I had thought of before. One of these is the elimina-
tion of cross  bar tires. Well, industrial  advantages—it's advan-
tageous to  the tire  industry  to  do  this  because rib tires  wear
more rapidly. However,  it's disadvantageous  to the trucking in-
dustry  because  of increased operating cost and down time for
tire  changes.  Generally  that  approach  results in increased cost
of trucks, of truck transportation, which will ultimately be passed
on to product and service costs.
  Another  thing that has  been mentioned—I  was surprised  it
came up here—but it did,  it shows what a sharp group we  have.
Reduction  of allowable top speed, since the sound level increases
3.3 dBA per ten miles  per hour. Well, obviously that has its  social
and economic disadvantages. Additional cost of goods and trans-
portation to the general public, impaired  capacity of the  road
system. I think that is about all I have to offer.
  Dr.  MEYER. Well, thank you very much. Before I ask the  panel
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rather intriguing to me, namely the comment regarding the dis-
tance attenuation factor perhaps not following the inverse square
law.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Yes.
  Mr. KlGlN. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. The reason I am interested in this is that it sort of
ties in with some observations; we have been  working with the
Department of  Transportation  on the problem  of continually
looking at a continuous stream of traffic in a freeway area, or an
interstate highway. In at least one set of measurements we have
shown that  for  approximately 30  to 40 percent of  the time, in
any hour—and it doesn't make a difference whether it's morning
peak traffic, night, 2 o'clock in the morning or what,  at a distance
of about 300 feet and up to an altitude of about 50 feet in the air,
along the freeway,  the sound pressure levels  measured  on the
A-scale standard sound level meter ran between 80  and 85  dBA.
And, of course, it is mostly tire noise,  so I am wondering about
this lessened reduction factor, because you know when you add
this up and  say,  well,  this truck passed this, some of these  other
standards that we are looking at of 90  and 95 dBA, what does it
mean 300 and 400 feet away? A lot of the calculations have been
made on the old inverse  square  60-B,  each time you double the
distance, and this may be very significant, I  would think.
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Yes. It's hard to know at this  point how to
interpret it. I can give some possible interpretations.
  Dr. MEYER. Rather  than doing it now and taking up the  time,
I would like for  you just to amplify on that for the record, and
for the technical people here to take a  look at  it. It's a scientific
and technical question. We could all look at it,  I think. Panel?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I have two or three questions.
  One is based on a statement made on page  3 of your testimony,
under the i^em of frequencies, where it's stated that because of
typical element spacing at 50 m.p.h. the dominant  frequency in
traction tires is  200 to 300 Hertz, and is 280 to  420 Hertz at
70 m.p.h.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Yes.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. And with resonances going up correspondingly
to higher frequencies, it sort of gives you a  hint that you are
approaching the  tympanic curve of the human  ear, and its maxi-
mum  response area. Is it  possible  to get ultimate spacing wider
than that so that you can stay down at  the lower frequency  with-
out hurting the  traction characteristics,  or the drive character-
istics?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Not to our knowledge. You see,  this is  what
has led to that;  it would be very easy for us to meet it if every-
thing could be done that we would  like to do.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Yes.
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Just to change the spacing,  we would  walk
down the A-response curve; by doing nothing more than changing
the spacing, you  would have the same—you could have even  more
sound power per element and show an improvement if we  could
do that. We don't feel that we can  do this and preserve the  func-
tion.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. The next  question, have you systematically
i*un a research program  where you look at noise characteristics

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as a function of speeds, and a function of various types of tread
designs, and is this available somewhere anywhere?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Well, the National Bureau  of  Standards at
Wallops Island  did carry out such a study. They have one report
out now. They are still in the process of carrying out this study.
I woud think in about 8 or 9 months they will have their final
report out.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. And they are looking at several treads?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. They are looking at many different types of
treads.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Then third, I have heard that the typical re-
capped tread which is put on a truck tire may be three or four
times  during its  lifetime, is one of the  worst  noise  sources. Is
this true, in your opinion?  And if so, why is  it different  from
firstline tires?
  Mr. LIPPMANN. There is a particular design on the market that
really  is a carryover from a past period. These molds are still
out, and the small recap shops don't see the reason to throw the
mold away.
  Dr.  WHITCOMB. But this  tread  has no virtue over the  other
treads ?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. No. Recaps can be made to be as effective as
new tread design, in my opinion.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Finally, there used to be a tire on  the market
called the Royalmaster, dating back 20 years,  maybe.
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Right.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. It probably was very quiet, I would think, but
was it bad in terms of traction ?
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Well, there have been continual developments in
tires. They all look alike, I know, but the tread life and the tractive
properties, the  skid resistance of tires, the steering properties of
tires have all changed through the years. We couldn't possibly go
back to designs of that period at this time.
  Professor PLACER. Just a quick question.
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Surely.
  Professor PLACER. On this reduction-of-speed  idea	
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Do tires wear more at high speeds than at
lower speeds?
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Yes, I think so.
  Professor PLACER. So that the costs to the industry of slower
speeds might be offset by the savings in tire wear?
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Well, I doubt that that balance would be made
because you are balancing the miles per dollar of a tire against
the total operating cost of  the  vehicle, which involves labor and
so on.
   Professor PLACER. Right.  I am sure there are  economic discon-
tinuities.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Yes.
  Professor PLACER.  OK. Having heard your presentation, and
glanced through your paper, I have at least a little better feel for
the problem, having  heard  the earlier gentlemen, all of whom
referred to  you as a source of  solution. What is the solution, or
what are the alternatives ? What are you going to do to solve our
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  Mr. LIPPMANN. The industry at the present time, I know what
my own options are for making developments, and I have spoken
to other people just  briefly at this point, and, of course, over
many years on various items get some idea of what their options
are. It looks pretty dreary at the present time.
  I think that some advantages can  be gained by eliminating par-
ticularly noisy designs, designs that have been misengineered and
developed,  let's say,  improper wear profiles on  the  surface—
eliminate some of the compressions, eliminate the tendency of tires
to wear into cups, and that sort of thing.
  I think that  can be done, and I think we would see a definite
improvement, but I notice that some of  the truck manufacturing
people see  much more improvement in  tires than we do. I just
don't know where it's coming from, and I  also am of the opinion
that the present legislation is legislating the impossible as far as
present technology is concerned.
  Now, of  course, technology can break at  any time, and someone
can come up with a bright idea, or  new material, or new way of
making a  tire,  or something like this could come  about, but that
is looking at the progress from the present time, with the present
available knowledge, I don't see it.
  Professor PLACER. Square wheels  may be the  answer.
  Mr. HlNTON. Mr. Lippmann, I  know  that involved as you are
with SAE committees and cooperative engineering programs that
you are pooling your knowledge  to try to  come up with some
technical solutions to  this problem.
  I was a little surprised that  you didn't have more to say about
tread design as a factor, but apparently it's not as large a factor
as I thought it was. Maybe you don't have as many options with
truck tires  as you do with automobiles.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. What I tried to do was to cover the  essential
characteristics  of  tread  designs rather  than  the  details  of
them	
  Mr. HINTON. I see.
  Mr. LIPPMANN.  That pertain to this particular subject.
  Mr. HINTON. Well,  Mr. Plager  asked  about the correlation of
safety. I guess  he means the coefficient of friction with tread
design.
  Professor PLAGER. A number of people said changing the tread
designs  makes  them unsafe, but nobody had any data; is there
some data on this subject?
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Well,  I don't have data as such, numerical data,
as I do in this other area to offer you, but I do have the many con-
versations I have had with representatives of trucking people, and
they tell me that they need the traction,  the traction and the con-
trol properties are directly related to the safety, and I posed the
same question,  you know,  as far as our industry  is concerned it
would be great if we  could get rid of the cross-lug tires and sell
more tires, see, but—well, okay, is it possible to get rid of them?
And they say, no, they are also instrumental in providing us with
a control that we need  under braking conditions, avoiding jack-
knifing and that sort of  thing.
  Professor PLAGER. Is this the manufacturer or the operator?
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  Professor PLACER. Okay, because the manufacturer says you are
the one who tells them, so it's the operators who are the source,
then.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Really, for all of us we may tell them, but the
way we find out what to tell them is by placing tires, experimental
tires, in service with operators and find out what has happened,
what the reactions are.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Just briefly, if I understand correctly,
now, you  are  talking of these traction tires, the crossbar lugs
specifically, but what about the general question of tractive effort
versus noise generation, or the free-rolling tires for  automobiles
tires? Do you have data on this tradeoff?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Well, normally the free-rolling tires  are not
called on to exert a great deal of traction, except when braking.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Right.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Which is the safety problem.
  Mr. LIPPMANN. Yes, sir; it  is a safety problem, too, and there
hasn't been any analysis made, to my knowledge, of  the tradeoff
involved by reducing the tractive ability of free-rolling tires
  Professor KERREBROCK. Will it be done by the Bureau of Stand-
ards in this study that they are carrying on?
  Mr.  LIPPMANN. Well, I don't see-—you see, the level there is
quite modest. It's not the key  matter—it is a key matter as you
go down to these lower and lower levels, of course, it will eventu-
ally become important, but the major  effort applied  so  far  in
trying to understand the problem and come up with solutions has
been to crossbar tires.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I see.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you very much for helping get  us into per-
spective in this problem. It's one that our Agency, in conjunction
with the Federal Highway Administration, Department of Trans-
portation, and National Bureau of Standards is going to have to
look at with you in the future to have a meaningful  approach to
setting  standards. I  want  to  thank  the  panel for the long day
they have spent here with me.  We  normally don't like  to  have
these  things run this long, but obvious  circumstances  prevented
us from having this stretched out over  3 days, which we would
have liked to have done.
  I appreciate  the patience of the witnesses, particularly those
toward the end of the day who stayed with us, and understood our
problems, and I appreciate those in  the audience who have been
interested enough to stay this long. And on that note  of apprecia-
tion from the Federal Government, this session of this hearing is
recessed until tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
   (Whereupon, at 8 p.m., the hearings  were recessed  to  9 a.m.,
on Thursday, July 29, 1971.)

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           ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
PUBLIC HEARING ON MANUFACTURING AND TRANSPORTATION
                NOISE (HIGHWAY AND AIR)
                  THURSDAY, JULY 29, 1971


                       PROCEEDINGS
  Dr. MEYER. Ladies and gentlemen, I hereby convene the third
session of the hearing on noise conducted by the  U.S. Environ-
mental Protection Agency in accordance with a directive from the
U.S. Congress, contained in title IV of Public Law 91-604. I am
Alvin Meyer, the Director of the Office of Noise Abatement and
Control of the Environmental Protection Agency, and I am accom-
panied today, as members of a hearing panel who will assist me in
receiving  information and  analyzing it and in making recom-
mendations based thereon,  by  Dr. Milton A. Whitcomb,  to  my
extreme left; Prof. Sheldon J. Plager; Mr. Henry  Martin, to my
right; Lloyd Hinton, to my left; and Prof. John Kerrebrock.
  What I  have to say at the outset of this may be redundant in
view of what was said yesterday, but since there  are new faces
in the  audience,  it is worthwhile to be  somewhat  repetitive and
point out  the authorities under  which  this hearing is held, its
purpose, its scope, and the manner in which it will be conducted.
The act of Congress I cited directed that the Administrator of the
Environmental Protection  Agency prepare a report to the Con-
gress and  submit it by the 30th of December 1971, covering all
aspects of the noise problem, methods of control, and what might
be done about it, both in the near term  and in the longer term.
Congress also directed that in preparing that report the Adminis-
trator would hold a series of public hearings. These public hear-
ings are national in scope. They are to deal with the problems
covered by the report. But  in holding them we realize that  it is
important not only to talk  about specifics of the  problems asso-
ciated with construction  equipment and transportation equipment
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the Congress told us to look at and on which to obtain views of
various public interest, but to also gain knowledge of the effects
of noise and to foster ideas concerning noise control. That is the
scope of these hearings.
  We are conducting the hearings, in general, according to the
rules of the Committee on Government Operation of the House of
Representatives of the U.S. Congress. Under those rules, witnesses
appear, after having submitted their request to make a presenta-
tion. We  have asked that they  furnish the committee with  a
printed or typed transcript of what  they are  going to say. No
questions are allowed directly from the floor. If someone sees or
hears something that they would like to ask a question about, they
may submit  the question in writing to the clerk, or the identified
young ladies, or the young gentleman who  is  working with us,
and we will  consider the answer or arrange to  get the  answer to
the question.
  I would like to, at the outset of this hearing,  state that  we are
most appreciative of the interest of the large group of people who
have evidenced concern about noise in Chicago.
  One of our staff assistants, Mr. Douglas Laycock, has prepared
an excellent  review  of what is going on, both in the city and the
county, and in the State, and has provided this to us for our use. It
will be included in the official record to the Congress.
  Without further  ado, then,  I would like to proceed with this
hearing. We have a large group of  people who have  asked to
appear. I would ask the speakers' indulgence in recognizing that
there are  other people on the schedule and  to  try to hold their
time of presentation to approximately 10 minutes maximum, so
that if there are any questions from the committee, there  will be
an opportunity for us to ask them.
  With that introductory remark, then, I ask Dr. Richard Marcus,
a member of the Laryngological and Otological Society of Chicago
—or I guess it's the Chicago Laryngological and Otological So-
ciety. Dr. Marcus, we are glad to have you here, sir. I look for-
ward to what you are going to tell us.
  Dr. MARCUS. Dr. Meyer and members of this panel, I am repre-
senting the  Chicago Laryngological and Otological  Society this
morning, and I had hoped—rather,  we had hoped that Dr. Meyer
Fox, who is  chairman of our Industrial Health Committee  for the
Chicago Laryngological and  Otological Society, would be here.
Unfortunately he could not make it at this time. He has prepared
a statement, which  I will submit to you at a later time. Dr. Fox
is one of the major authorities in  the field  of  industrial  health,
and I note the smile on Dr. Meyer's face—a  smile of recognition,
I am sure.
  Dr.  MEYER. Yes; the Chair  is familiar with Dr.  Fox, and is
sorry that he  isn't here, but will you convey to him my regards
please, sir.
  Dr.  MARCUS.  Thank  you very much.  I  am  chairman  of the
School and Public Health Committee of the Chicago Laryngologi-
cal and Otological Society, and have spent a number of years of
my work in the field of otology with children, and, of course, many
adults, too, those who would see fit to consult me. I will pass over
the introductory remarks, which I  am sure will appear in  your

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record, which gives due consideration and recognition to  all the
men of our society, and  elsewhere, who have done work in the
field, and move directly, then,  into the presentation.

        STATEMENT OF RICHARD MARCUS, CHICAGO
       LARYNGOLOGICAL AND OTOLOGICAL SOCIETY
  Dr. MARCUS. As otologists, we are interested in the prevention
and alleviation of deafness. Whatever causes or may cause hearing
loss demands our attention,  and, as is well-known, certain types
of noise may do so. As physicians, we are also interested in other
effects of noise on us  as humans, on animals, and on our natural
environment. As citizens, we are deeply concerned about the dis-
turbing, distressing, and  intrusive effects of unwanted sound.
  We recognize that sound is the accompaniment of all movement
and activity, and, therefore,  provides a background of life which
comforts us reminding us that we  are alive. Ultimate silence is
most  uncomfortable,  eerie, and unearthly. However, in present
day civilization, there has been  too much artificially produced
sound and  noise. We also recognize that many people  in  many
fields  have  been and continue to be  concerned with this problem.
We are proud to number many of our colleagues among those who
have contributed  to our knowledge of the effects of noise  on the
ear and in the development of noise control. These men  have
worked individually as well as through our local and national so-
cieties. A  number of them are or  have been members  of the
Chicago Laryngological and Otological Society,  which organiza-
tion I have the privilege of representing today.
  Because  much of what they have done has been incorporated
in the Occupational Safety Act, Walsh-Healey, et cetera  and is
covered in the statement of Dr. Meyer Fox, we will discuss certain
circumstances of noise exposure sometimes inadequately presented
or incompletely understood. This is  the problem of ear-damaging
noise  among children, the  isolated  or  self-employed  industrial
worker, those engaging in domestic  or recreational activities, and
all persons  subjected to change, inadvertent, mischievious or mali-
cious  exposure. Our  information  is based  wherever possible on
experimental clinical or deductive grounds. Some of it is specula-
tive and is  so stated.
  The word deafness  is a general  term for  hearing loss, of which
there  may be all gradations, from  very slight to profound or com-
plete ; also  the extent  of the hearing loss  determines our capacity
to function comfortably  in all human activities.  Hearing is the
entry to the soul, but, unfortunately, loss of  hearing is  the  least
recognizable, and, therefore, the  least  urgent of all human ills,
so that most of us overlook it, mistake  it,  or deny it, making it
exceedingly difficult to identify, prevent, and treat.
  Our testimony today will discuss  the effect of noise on the ear
in children in three age groups and adults in two age groups. The
types  of noise producers  concerned  are shown in the attachment.
Not all noises are listed but rather are used as more common ex-
amples either of definitely proved, highly suspect, or possibly sus-
pect of ear-damaging potential. We are  concerned with any kind
of hearing  loss or ear symptom, from very mild single tone dips,
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vertigo, inasmuch  as the inner ear consists of both the auditory
and vestibular apparatus. The  very mild  sensory-neural hearing
losses usually do not  interfere seriously with everyday function
but can be somewhat incapacitating in a background  of masking
noise.

I.  Children
  A. 0-5 years (17 million in this age group).—A total of 5 per-
cent of these children (850,000) are estimated to have a hearing
loss, most of which is congenital or occurs in the first few years
of infancy as the result of local  or systemic diseases. Some of
these losses are moderately severe or profound. The mild or mod-
erate sensory-neural losses are difficult to ascertain, but to protect
these children from any possible source of damage, certain types
of noise exposure, such as frequent and prolonged positioning on
the back ledge of the rear  seat over the rear engine  automobiles
should be avoided, and, if there are older children in the house,
protection should be afforded from the noises of cap guns and cap
pistols. When accompanying mother around the house, try to keep
the baby away from the obvious noisemakers, such as disposals,
blenders, mixers, and garden  and landscape tools, although the
newborn and infant babies have some built-in protection with ear
canals partially or completely closed and their middle  ears incom-
pletely ventilated.
  B. Age 5-10 years (20 million in this age group).—At the pres-
ent time 5 to 7 percent, 1 million to 1,400,000, are considered to
have hearing loss, perhaps 20 percent of these are sensory-neural.
The most common cause of permanent sensory-neural hearing loss,
usually mild or moderate, but permanent,  in one or both ears is
exposure to the high-intensity sound of cap guns or cap pistols or
explosion  of whole rolls of "caps." The whole  roll explosion is
usually accomplished  (as most of us former boys remember)  by
hitting the roll with a hammer or baseball bat, and frequently is
done  in a confined space, such  as  a cellar  or garage,  or between
walls as in  an alleyway or sidewalk between buildings. Many of
the children are onlookers,  not knowing what to expect, and have
not had time to avert the head or cover the ears. Also the game
of "cops and robbers" or "war" use such devices and the shot can
be made close to an ear by running up from behind.
   In this age group and in some of the  younger  children,  various
types of "noise" making toys are available, many very likely harm-
less, but some possibly of ear damaging  intensity, such as the
"paper"  explosives,  and these  along with explosions  of paper
bags, balloons, and other  devices, particularly in a closed space,
such  as in our airtight  automobiles, could be potentially  damag-
ing to an ear or ears, depending on the various  factors involved.
There are new toys introduced  from time  to  time with ear-
damaging capacity.
   C.  Age 10-18 (32,500,000 in this age  group).—Perhaps 2 to
3  percent with  hearing loss,  650,000  to  975,000, most of these
sensory-neural, many of which were incurred at an earlier age. In
addition to the previously mentioned exposures, these children at
camps and school may become involved in rifle and pistol instruc-
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family on  hunting expeditions  or to  target  practice,  including
skeet shooting. Most, if not all, of this exposure occurs without
adequate ear protection. Chance and inadvertent exposure to fire-
arms could occur  when near  a  starter's pistol on  swimming or
track teams.
  These children encounter other possibly damaging noises  when
they build and  fly model  airplanes, are  enrolled  in workshops
with high  speed tools at school, or have  them at  home.  During
this  age  period  children  could be exposed to  gocarts, minibikes,
snowmobiles, motorcycles, and perhaps some of the  older children
may even be involved in construction projects, engine construc-
tion, car  mechanics, etc. They  are also introduced to rock and roll
music at high amplification considered by some authorities  to be
ear-damaging.

II. Adults
  A. Age 18-65 (113 million in this age group).—Estimated 2
percent hearing  loss, 2,260,000, mostly sensory-neural. Large num-
bers of this age group are isolated workers in large or small in-
dustrial activities  and hundreds of thousands are  self-employed.
They work with jack hammers, chain saws, and  noise making
equipment  of all  kinds,  including shoe repair machinery, floor
graders, sanders, et cetera to cite only a few examples. Some may
be part of  an industrial hearing conservation  program, but most
of the self-employed would have no access to preemployment or
followup hearing testing.
  Of possible concern in this age group would be exposure to
noise in  computer rooms,  or  from  walkie-talkies,  civilian  band
intercommunication  devices  in planes, trucks,  cabs,  hospitals,
transistor radios worn constantly in the ears, et cetera.
  B. Over 65 (20 million people in this group).—An estimated 20
percent of this group have a hearing loss, possibly the single most
common  disorder of older  age. Of the 4,000,000  hard-of-hearing
older people, perhaps 10-15 percent, 400,000 to 600,000, could be
directly attributable to noise exposure sometime earlier in their
lives. This  loss generally  is accentuated by advancing age, as well
as other diseases of age. The sad commentary is that these losses
are preventable  but not treatable.
  Except for chance or inadvertent exposure to firearms or blasts,
damaging noise  in this age group is limited,  but many of  these
people wear hearing aids and  chance exposure can  be a problem.
Certainly the masking effect of noise on  speech  intelligibility is
a great obstacle  to the successful use of hearing aids.

General Considerations
  All age groups can suffer permanent, frequently severe,  inner
ear damage from  chance or inadvertent exposure to firearms or
blasts. A number of persons have been in the vicinity when a fire-
cracker,  a cherry bomb, or  other  explosive is  detonated mis-
chievously  or maliciously.
  There  is a special problem  for  persons of  all  ages who  wear
hearing aids when exposed to such very loud sounds. There are
some instances of progressive hearing  loss in children wearing
hearing aids as  a  result of such exposure. One explosive may be

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sufficient to damage the remaining hearing almost entirely. It is
recommended that  all persons wearing hearing aids turn their
aids off, whenever such an exposure can be anticipated.

Recommendations
  The physician in private practice  can be of enormous help.
Starting in his own office or home, he can insure any equipment
he uses is noise-treated. He should counsel all of his patients who
have  had  chronic  otitis  media  or  middle  ear surgery, where
natural defenses of the ear may have been altered, to avoid or
protect themselves from damaging noise. All patients seen by him
should have  a work, household, and recreational history, and in
instances of known exposure,  proper precautions  should be ad-
vised,  including earplugs or muffs. He should  urge  and provide
regular hearing  tests at least  once  a year, for all ages from
shortly after birth and thereafter.
  The physician should  encourage and  participate in  hearing
conservation programs in industry and  should support medical
society presentations and symposia on the subject, help in organi-
zation of special medical committees in local, State, national,  and
specialty societies,  where  necessary.  In  Chicago  and in Illinois
we  now have such  functioning  committees, both  of which  are
active in legislative matters.
  As far as  legislation is concerned,  the  physician should advise
no  more than is necessary and  enforceable, and none  unless it
includes  active  medical consultation, participation, and super-
vision. Specific legislation, if not already available, should include
severe punishment  for  the  mischievous or malicious person who
causes damage  or   destruction  of hearing  with firearms, fire-
crackers, explosives, or other device.
  Strict regulation  of  all firearm training  courses  and ranges,
outdoor  and indoor,  is absolutely required for all ages, and all
schools,  camps,  and  other  organizations  should be advised that
adequate ear protection is mandatory at all times for the partici-
pants  and the onlookers.  Further studies of  school workshops
should be done similar to industrial noise  areas. All self-employed
workers around noisy equipment should be advised of the pos-
sible hazard to the ears and regular testing of ears and control
of machinery be affected.
  Other legislation  could require testing of all toys, medical or
other  devices prior to marketing similar  to methods  used for
medications  through HEW. Perhaps we  may be able to get ac-
curate measurements of  impulsive noise and then  put warning
labels  on the toys  and other equipment:  "May Be  Injurious to
Ears and Hearing." However,  don't take the fun out of some of
these toys.
  The physician should encourage the development of a program
to provide public information  on the prevention of deafness of
all  kinds, particularly that  due to ear-damaging noise.
                          ATTACHMENT
I. Explosive
  A. Industrial and military.—Dynamite, power nails, backfires.
  B. Domestic, recreational, and entertainment, including toys.—Caps, cap

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guns,  cap  pistols, paper-pop guns, other toys. Firecracker, starting devices
for sports  (track and field, swimming, sailing, and so forth)  including guns,
carbide cannons, and so  forth,  theatre in the round, baseball score boards,
skeet,  hunting, target practice, gun galleries.
  C. Miscellaneous.—Tree rooting, animal holes and nests, etc.

II. Machinery, Motor, and Functional, Including Abrasives, Shippers, etc.

  A. Industrial and military.—Garage equipment and automobile noise, power
tools including chain and buzz saws, ship holds, truckers' cabs (engine, wheel
and road noise), bulldozers, garbage  trucks, lifters, computer rooms, secre-
tarial  and statistical machines, business machines.
  B. Domestic, recreational, and entertainment, including toys.—Home work-
shops, garden and landscape equipment,  kitchen and basement appliances,
air conditioners,  floor  sanders,  private airplanes, snowmobiles, power boats
(water skiers),  campers,  outdoor amusement  parks  (motor-driven ferris
wheels, roller  coasters, tilt-a-whirl, and so forth), model railroads, model air-
planes, go carts.
  C. Miscellaneous.—Medical  equipment, dental  drills,  burglar  alarms  and
security devices, radio and TV tones, transistor radios  (in the ear), walkie-
talkies, civilian band radios in planes, cars, and so forth, gerbil wheels.

III.  Blowers, Nozzles, Air Pressure Devices, and Wind Exposure

  A. Industrial and military.—Ice- and snow-making machines; snow blowers;
exhaust, ventilating  fans, and blowers; air rifles;  tubes and hoses; tire in-
flaters and deflaters.
  B. Domestic,  recreational,   and  entertainment,  including  toys.—Snow
blowers, top-down drivers' sportscar, open cockpit planes, whistles.
  C. Miscellaneous.—Warning devices, sirens (police, ambulance, firecall out
volunteer firemen), air-raid, celebrations, power whistles, traffic whistles.

IV.  Percussion and Vibration

  A. Industrial and military.—Piledrivers_.
  B. Domestic, recreational, and entertainment, including toys.—Rock-and-
roll, home amplifiers.

   Dr. MEYER. Panel?
   Dr. WHITCOMB.  Because  of the magnitude of the problem you
have  outlined,  would  you consider that it might be reasonable to
augment  the private practitioner with an inexpensive public clinic
of  some kind where  monitoring could be done on  children,  for
example ?
   Dr. MARCUS. That is a possibility, yes.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. There really aren't enough of otolaryngologists
as a group to do this sort of job, I don't think.
   Dr. MARCUS. I think that  is a very good look at a major problem
in terms  of the numbers  involved, and on some occasions I have
considered  the possibility  that  some of  the  otolaryngologists'
offices could be  expanded with the cooperation of  the public peo-
ple to do this  sort  of thing—in other words, bring some of  the
so-called public monitoring  stations, as you referred to them, near
or close to,  or  actually in the otolaryngologist's  office. He will be
there; it will be much easier than to do it—obviously there would
be  problems of administration and  so on, but  no more so, very
likely, than any other way.
   Dr. WHITCOMB. There  might be—this  could  be ideal because
then  the rough screening might identify somebody early  who could
then  be examined more thoroughly.
   Dr. MARCUS. Absolutely. I would be very much in favor  of such
a thing.
   Professor PLACER. You left out of your catelog,  Dr. Marcus, of
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but to pass that for the moment, you call for several kinds of
legislation, reaching the  question of evaluation and perhaps re-
stricting the use or sale of various kinds of possible noise hazard-
ous  items.  To your knowledge are  there  any  governmental
programs, either state  or Federal, or perhaps even local, now in
effect that are dealing with this problem ?
  Dr. MARCUS. I was hoping to have an opportunity to check this
out. I have not had such an opportunity. I don't know the answer
to that question. I think  it's important to find out as soon as we
can  what  the  statutes  are  in regard  to the  problem that  I
mentioned.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Your colleague, Dr. Whitcomb, is getting edgy.
  Dr. WHITCOMB.  Actually I  have—FDA has initiated a start in
this direction with, first of all, banning caps, which you mentioned
earlier,  and then  second, when there was some reverse scientific
reaction to that, because the pulse  is so  short in duration,  com-
pared to shotgun shells and so on,  which are more hazardous, I
think they have now adopted  the posture  of simply  labeling these
containers as hazardous.
  Dr. MARCUS. I hope that will  be enough.
  Mr. HINTON. Dr. Marcus, this panel—at least several members
of this  panel, particularly are interested in the  transportation
noise sources and  their effect on the spectator or the user. You
mentioned just briefly  the automobile, of the child riding in the
automobile.  My experience has been continuous,  with more and
more people traveling, more children, of course, being carried
along	
  Dr. MARCUS. Right.
  Mr. HINTON. There are a lot of sources of noise, for example,
aerodynamic noise, which is  almost continuous in  a  moving ve-
hicle; that is the  principal source of noise in an aircraft, by the
way, in the cabin	
  Dr. MARCUS. Yes.
  Mr. HlNTON. So what can be done,  in your estimation,  and
would you have any suggestions that this panel might consider
about this problem?
  Dr. MARCUS. Well, it is not  clear to me, of course, how  dam-
aging to the ear  such aerodynamic noise could  be,  so I would
think the first thing that could be done is  actually  set up  an
experiment  whereby, with volunteers, check and  see what the
hearing would be after a ride of 1  hour,  2 hours, 3 hours, what-
ever it would be, and see if there is a temporary threshold  shift
of hearing; follow it up over  a  period of time, and see if, in fact,
there may be some difficulty.
  The second aspect of that, however, is that  again, talking about
the patients who wear hearing aids, with this noise, which is a
low sort of a hum, you can describe it as a distant roar almost,
it does interfere with hearing.  You can't hear as well, and when
you  are wearing  a  hearing  aid, all these sounds are a major
problem, and wherever they  can be reduced, let's say, from the
point of view, with interference with a speech intelligence, that
should be done. I think further studies are certainly called for as
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  Mr.  MARTIN. Dr.  Marcus, my question is twofold;  one, what
kind of levels, in general, create  this hearing damage, and second,
what kind of exposure, continuous or intermittent, what length
exposure generally would cause a permanent threshold shift?
  Dr.  MARCUS. In my opinion,  a—let's say there are different
levels  of  sound  from the  different explosive devices—the  caps
would  have a different one  than a  shotgun, for instance; a rifle
of a certain caliber from another.
  In general, I would say until  we get full information at what
kind is being used at what point, we can consider that the explo-
sion at the muzzle of most of these that can cause trouble  runs
anywhere from  130  to 180 decibels,  at  least, and  in  some  may
reach peaks if we could measure these, over 200. Now, this occurs
in a very short space of time; nevertheless, the experience that
I have had so far indicates that one such exposure, if the head
is just held—if the conditions  of  resonation and  reflexion  are
just right, can result in a  permanent loss of greater or lesser
degree.
  Let  me illustrate that  particular one.  They have the so-called
blank cartridge that is used on the  stage, and one of my patients
attending a theatre in the round here in the Chicago area, sitting
on  the aisle, her left ear  at the aisle,  one of  the actors came
running  down. He was supposed to carryout  a  shooting gesture
with one  of these pistols, and happened to shoot it right above
her head, within a few inches of the left ear.  She immediately
had roaring; she had some vertigo in the  ear;  she noticed  she
couldn't hear well. She came in  the next day. Fortunately I had
had previous tests on her, perfectly  normal hearing, some months
before; she had practically no hearing in that  left ear. This is
what I call the  chance or  inadvertent exposure to  this type of
thing,  and indicates to you  how serious one explosion can be.
  Now, then, if we consider that other children may not be quite
that close, other people not  quite that close, they may have mild
tonal dips, let's say a dip in the  hearing  which is permanent, but
not necessarily of a  character which would interfere  with their
everyday  activities, but still can be added to  through  the years,
so this is a major problem. The noise that comes from these guns,
from these explosive devices is tremendous, and is damaging.
  You  asked another question, and I, in my long answer to the
first one, I am sorry, it had slipped my mind. I am going to  ask
you to  repeat it, please.
  Mr.  MARTIN.  Well, I  am mostly concerned about  the inter-
mittent, or somewhat, an hour of continuous  exposure to things
like blenders, appliances in the  home, which are not quite  the
130 level.
  Dr. MARCUS. Right. Yes. This is not known, and I am uncertain
as to how much exposure,  let's  say, would be required, whether
the intermittent exposure that we know of in the  kitchens, for,
let's say, minutes or short periods  of time, would be  damaging.
We all  know that this should be  considered accumulative  sort of
type—in  other words, you  have  to  take  the amount per  day or
per week, or let's say the lifetime of exposure in a  situation like
this, and I  have listed these as potentially  ear damaging  the
capacity. I do not say that they would be  definitely so.

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  Professor KERREBROCK. I think I can answer my own question
from  your last answer, but I want to ask it anyway, for the
record.  Do you  know  of  any evidence of ear  damage  due to
transportation-derived noises in the general populace? That is, is
there  any damage to the ear from aircraft noise, from truck noise
and so forth?
  Dr. MARCUS. You see, this  is one of our problems, to be able
to have some base from which we can, from which we can measure
changes in hearing. Fortunately today most of the schoolchildren
have hearing1 tests, so that we know what their hearing is or had
been at  a certain time.
  For us, then, to go back and measure what the noises have been,
and whether a hearing loss that we now see in an older child is
related to such transportation noise, becomes a very difficult situ-
ation. This is  one of our—one of the drawbacks to the problem
as we see it today.
  We do not yet have enough information on day-to-day hearing
of children and adults, to measure what something like this could
do to  the hearing.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER.  Dr. Marcus, before  we ask for our next witness,
my colleague, Mr. Hinton,  has one further question he would like
to ask you	
  Dr. MARCUS. Oh, yes.
  Dr. MEYER.  And we have asked you a lot of questions, because,
really, your testimony is central to the problem of noise, in addi-
tion to the nuisance  effects of course.  We appreciate your time,
and before we excuse you, may I allow my colleague to ask you
another question?
  Dr. MARCUS. Yes.
  Mr. HINTON.  Dr.  Marcus, I  would like  to have  your  brief
opinion on whether or not  you think that transitory flyover noise,
for example, of an aircraft, or vehicle passing on our highways of
a high magnitude, but very short  duration, has any permanent
threshold shift effect on hearing?
  Dr. MARCUS. I  have no  specific information to that effect, but
I have had the testimony  from patients who, in  the days  before
with air conditioning in cars, now, whether this introduces some
other problem or not as far as ear-damaging noises concerned in
regard to your question about aerodynamic noise, but in the days
before air conditioning, salesmen  used to drive  for hours and
hours many days of  the week with the window  open, and some
would say to me, after a day's drive, they felt they did not hear
as well out of  that side, and they would come in some years later
with  a loss on the left more than  the right—more so, let's say,
they felt in their own minds it  was related to that type  of ex-
posure.  I think this is a very  important aspect that has not been
carefully studied, and should be studied.
  Mr. HlNTON. Well, I wasn't referring to that aerodynamic noise
this time;  I was  referring to the high noise level of an aircraft
passing at low altitude, or a truck on the highway passing by,
close by the observer, where you have just a few  seconds—5, 4, 3
seconds of peak noise,  and then you have a period  of relative
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  Dr. MARCUS. Yes, I understand what you mean.
  I doubt—I doubt at  the  moment, unless  we are dealing with
other physiological  factors  in the  ears, or pathological factors,
let's say  a patient who has had ear surgery, as I mentioned be-
fore, if the natural defenses of the ears may have been altered, I
think it's possible some  of these  people could suffer  some ear
damage from the kind of exposure that you refer to under other
circumstances; it would seem to me somewhat unlikely that this
would have any permanent  effect.
  Mr. HINTON. This was my information also. I just wanted to
have your opinion.
  Dr. MARCUS. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much,  sir,  for  a most  helpful
presentation.
  Dr. MARCUS. Thank you,  Dr.  Meyer.
  Dr. MEYER. We have a group of individuals, a representative
group of individuals, who  have taken some time to come here
from out of State to give some comments on noise  as it affects
people engaged in noisy trades. We have heard from Dr. Marcus.
  It's a well-established fact  that  the greatest exposures of the
American public  to noise-risk deafness are in the  occupational
groups working with heavy machinery;  people who  are working
around testing of aircraft  engines, people  who are  working in
steel mills, people who are working around lumbering operations,
with big  saws and so on, so I would like to  ask AFL-CIO repre-
sentative, Mr. Sheldon  Samuels and his  colleagues if they would
come forward.
  Mr.  SAMUELS.  Thank  you. This is Mr.  Noah  Roberts,  chief
steward of the Whirlpool plant in Benton  Harbor,  and  Mr.  Al
Romeo, president of the local there, the International Association
of Machinists.
  Dr. MEYER.  Very happy  to have you gentlemen.  Thank you,
Sheldon, for arranging  for their arrival here, and, gentlemen, we
would like to hear from you.

     STATEMENT OF NOAH ROBERTS, AND  AL ROMEO, JR.,
                    MACHINISTS UNION
  Mr. ROBERTS. I am Noah Roberts, chief steward, local No. 1918,
Machinists  Union in  Benton  Harbor,  Mich., representing the
Whirlpool workers of the St. Joe division.
  Mr. ROMEO. Albert Romeo, Jr., president  of  local No. 1918,
Machinists  Union, representative  for the people  of  St. Joseph,
Mich.
  Dr. MEYER. Please proceed, gentlemen.
  Mr. ROMEO. I am  having Mr. Roberts here start.
  Dr. MEYER. Very good. Would you mind moving the microphone,
that black one, just a little closer to you?
  Mr. ROMEO. I  have  a  hearing  problem,  so you will have to
speak up.
  Mr. ROBERTS. To begin with, I would like  to present here  some
layouts of the plant, and the one  here is marked off with  some
readings, I would like these  to be entered into your records.
  Dr. MEYER. It will be done, sir.*
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  Mr. ROBERTS.  I have several  copies here; how many copies
would you wish? That is a layout,  identified by plant number of
the entire St. Joe division,  and  where the readings are posted
there, represents  the first area in  which the—which is affected
by this  new  act concerning the  health and  safety,  and the ear
muffs were put into effect in this  area prior to any attempt on
the part of the company, to reduce the noise.
  Our local union is totally unsatisfied with the progress, or with
the manner in which the company  has approached this problem,
and we are of the contention that the company  is, has taken the
cheap way, and the easy way out, and is  not actually presenting
a solution to the problem that we have.
  The—I was given permission to take some readings in the
plant, and these  readings were  taken, and  these represent the
readings that appear on this sheet  here [indicating].
  The readings read as follows:
  In one area I got a reading, reading from 95 to 97 decibels.
  And another area I got a reading of 102 decibels, and 95 to 106
decibels.
  And in another area,  98 to 100,  and 98 to 102, and  93 to 94,
102 to 104, and 93.
  Now,  I had one area there that  read about  88 to 94  decibels,
and the way that the company has measured this noise, they have
an exposure  meter that they have attached to the employees, and
have them wear  them  for a period  of eight hours, and in the
areas that shows  180 minutes of 90 decibels or  above. Those are
the areas that are affected, and the people are  required to  wear
an ear muff.
  Now,  these—they have made no attempt whatsoever to lower
the sound level in these high noise level areas, with the exception
of one plant, which is a machining operation, and that is  num-
bered as  plant 7 on the diagram, and has  no  readings on it.  That
will be up in your righthand corner of the diagram up there, as
plant 7, and they  have made some  minor  changes there based on
some suggestions  that the people, the employees themselves,  have
turned in.
  I think it  was November the 25th  when the company first ap-
proached us on this problem, based  on the congressional acts, that
were about to make this a law, which would affect them, and only
then did  they become real concerned about it, and they informed
us that  there would  be a hearing abatement program  put into
effect as a condition of employment, and all people working in the
high noise level areas would be required to wear an ear  muff,
and we were not given a choice as to the type of protective equip-
ment to wear.
  They said this is what you will wear; any other type of equip-
ment will not be  accepted, and we don't feel that this was the
proper approach to this.
  We acknowledge that we  have a problem  with noise, as  most
of the industries do, and we definitely feel that there is something
that can be  done  to lower this noise level, in many cases, below
the danger level—and in most cases  down to the level by where
certain types of protective equipment would  bring it on down to
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  This company has failed to do anything in the press room area
that is diagramed there, and their answer to it was that it was
senseless to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and  not be
able to move the level of sound down over one or two decibels.
  They feel that there is nothing that can be done to quiet punch
press type  noise, and certainly we don't agree with this.
  We feel  at least this  company should make an attempt to ful-
fill their obligations in accordance with the act and exhaust every
means of engineering control to reduce this sound level.
  Also, we feel that the proper protective equipment should be
issued, and the equipment should be the type that  would not in
itself present a hazard.
  The types of machines  that several of the people have  to run
there, they run them by ear; if you block the sound  off, then that
becomes a  hazard in other manners,  causing a person to be sub-
jected to loss of arm, or possibly loss of life.
  Also, on lift truck operations, mechanical motorized  vehicles,
in many instances we have to depend on sharp hearing to properly
perform our duties on these lift truck jobs, and if our hearing is
deterred  in any manner,  well,  it  increases the hazards on our
vehicle jobs, and  this is one of the reason why we appear here,
and  we haven't had  any—we have asked that the  inspectors be
brought in to  offer some  suggestions as  to the solutions to this
noise, and up to this  point they have  brought no inspectors in.
  We haven't—this has  been a company program; it's been made
a part of the  shop rules.  It's been made a condition of employ-
ment, and the company—the only manner in which they have dealt
with this union on  this was that, I  think, about November the
25th they approached us, informed us of what they intended to do.
  They came back in April, I believe—and I don't remember the
date—they informed us then that they had had their engineers
to offer several suggestions, and there seemed to be no solution
to the problems in the area that we are most concerned about.
  And then again on June the 2d—June  the 3d,  I believe it was,
they interrupted a committee meeting  that we  were having and
told  us at that time  that  the hearing abatement program would
be put into effect on the startup date following vacation, which
was  July the  12th,  and we now have  a  compulsory, mandatory
ear muff program, and this we don't  feel is the, has been done in
a proper manner.
  We don't feel that the  company has discharged their full re-
sponsibility to this, and that the wrong avenue  of approach was
taken to  the problem, and we would very much like some help
from the inspectors from the Federal Government to assist us in
getting a safe  program in  this plant to help abate this noise.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you  very much  for this presentation, sir. I
will see to it that the  information you  have given us is transmitted
to the people in the Department of Labor, who are concerned with
enforcement of the Occupational Safety and Health Act. The rea-
son the company has, as I am sure you have already indicated in
your testimony, required  you to take these measures is that if
they don't  either quiet  the equipment or provide you with re-
quired hearing protection they become a violator of a Federal law
for which  there are very strict penalties. So the  fact remains,

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though, that you have a problem that should be brought to the
proper people's attention.
  I would like to ask the panel, if they have any questions be-
fore I ask several.
  Mr. MARTIN. Does the company medical department have any
kind of  hearing equipment that they  can measure employees'
hearing before and after exposure, and  do they have any plans
that they have told  you  about to modify exposure times based on
possible hearing loss that occurs to employees in this area?
  Mr. ROBERTS. They have a soundproof room that was  recently
installed to test a person's hearing prior to going into these high
level noise—these high  noise level areas,  and I  am not sure yet
whether they have put this into effect on a plantwide basis or not.
  There is one thing about this program that we are not satisfied
with, taking myself, for an  example, I requested a hearing test,
and  after the test was taken—and  it was taken by the first aid
nurses who  I  am not convinced are totally qualified to take this
test; then I requested a copy of my medical records  of this test
for my medical records, so that I could have it for future reference
in case of a  problem, because we know nothing about  the reading
of this test, so they could come up 2 or 3 years from now with
any type of a reading.
  They have indicated  that this test will be given periodically,
and they gave semiannual and annual as their concept of periodi-
cally, and I understand that there are possibilities that a law may
be passed making these records available to the employees.
  At the present time they have refused—they have denied my
request for  a copy  of my hearing  test,  and this  is also what I
would like to get resolved in the future, very near future.
  Dr. MEYER. At last	
  Mr. ROMEO. I would like to add to that.
  Dr. MEYER. Go ahead, sir, please.
  Mr. ROMEO. They are going to make it a mandatory thing that
everybody in the plant take the hearing test.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, the last point that  your colleague has given
is an important one,  and I  certainly shall see to it that it gets
to the proper people in the Department of Health, Education, and
Welfare, and Labor. Certainly, the results of that sort of a hearing
examination ought to be furnished the employee; medical records,
as Dr. Marcus would tell you,  are considered  sometimes to be
professionally confidential for a variety  of reasons, but  it's just
like  a prescription for your  glasses. Why, certainly something of
this  nature, some system, should be worked out. I will see to it
that the people responsible for  the  law  that you are discussing
here get this information. This  law is not this Agency's responsi-
bility but it is one that we are concerned with.
  I have several questions I would like to ask you, because it is
on the total noise problem—not only the noise within the plant,
but the noise outside the plant.
  What type of construction is this building that you took  these
measurements in?
  Mr.  ROBERTS. This is a steel-type, metal-type construction. I
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  This plant was started back in 1947, I believe, and it was con-
tinuously added onto, and at each time that the plant was added
onto, a new type of material—there was a new type of material
used in each addition, or a more up-to-date type  of material, so
it's of a steel-type construction plant,  and there is no exhaust in
the ceilings, and  no  ventilation from  the ceilings at all,  and we
have offered this  as a means of suggestion.
  Now, the plant 5 area here that is in question is relatively new.
It came into existence in the sixties, the early sixties, and by our
millwrights and maintenance department, it was suggested at that
time that all this machinery be exhausted in the pit, in the floor,
you know,  and this  wasn't followed because of the  expense in-
volved in it.
  Now, the  perimeter reading of this department here averages
about 95 decibels, and I had an engineer, one that was supposed
to have been one  of their sound experts that has been schooled in
this from the company present with me when these readings were
taken, and  he  acknowledged the  accuracy of it, because he was
giving me the readings to the areas,  in many cases, before we
would ever get to these areas. He would tell me that a certain
reading would be here, in this area, and when we got there, we
would find that reading to be correct.
  Dr. MEYER. I gather this is a punch press operation?
  Mr. ROBERTS. Right.
  Dr. MEYER. When was this equipment installed, and how  long
did it take to install  it?
  Mr. ROBERTS.  This equipment  was  installed, I  believe it was
finished up either in  1961 or 1962. Now, there has been additions
to this  periodically,  new equipment  being brought  in,  larger
presses, 4 to 800-ton type of presses, etc., and we have automatic
lines with eight or 10 presses tied in in sequence to perform top-
type operations,  to start a top of a  washing machine and totally
finish it before it's released at the tail end  of the operation, and
these presses have been continuously updated to high speed  type
presses over the years, and the latest press just came in this year.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. We appreciate receiving this
information, and it  will be in the  record,  and I will take the
necessary action  to see  that this information  gets passed on to
the right people. Thank you very much, gentlemen; I am glad you
could come, and appreciate your taking the time.
  Mr. ROBERTS. Thank you.
  Mr. ROMEO. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. The next  person I would like to call is Dr. Alfred
Etter, a Naturalist with the Morton Arboretum. Dr. Etter.
  Dr. ETTER. I thank you, Mr.  Chairman. I have copies of my
presentation here, if anybody would like to  have copies.

     STATEMENT OF ALFRED ETTER, MORTON ARBORETUM
  Dr. ETTER. I speak for a little black girl who recently visited
the Morton  Arboretum where I am the naturalist. On the floor
of a woods she discovered a small piece of a  tree. Unable to recog-
nize wood that had never been sawed or nailed she asked what it
was. When  she learned that it was a piece of a genuine tree, just
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like a doll and carried it home to the ghetto with her on the bus.
That is how ignorant of nature our people, especially our children,
have become. For many of them, the unnatural has become the
usual—so it has been with noise.
  I think I speak not only for this little girl, but for people of
every age who, because of rising levels of noise everywhere, are
searching for something they feel they have lost. Without know-
ing it, they need  to walk and sit  together in a quiet  place and
look at the earth, listen  to how the birds sing, and perhaps to
puzzle about how much  growing, and developing, plants can
accomplish without ever making a sound.
  When I requested permission to testify at this hearing, I was
asked whether  I wanted  to testify as an  expert. How does one
qualify as an expert in these matters? Must he have  a Ph.D. to
speak out against the inhumanity of man's noise? Isn't just being
alive enough? Aren't ears sophisticated enough to tell the differ-
ence between what is strident and what is soothing? Aren't irrita-
tion and  anger as good a measure as decibels?
  If it helps  impress someone,  then yes—I have a Ph.D.  I  have
spent 8 years in college and the rest of my life in  studying the
earth,  and the life of it. I have  made it my responsibility to
understand how the world is put together—and not a little of this
understanding has come from listening to the sounds of nature—
the silent sounds of stars, the timeless flowing  of rivers, the en-
thusiasm of wrens, the gnawing of squirrels as they husk walnuts
in the fall.
  In the  past 15 years of my life, I have  traveled among the
largest cities  in the Nation, and so I have become  somewhat
expert not only on sounds but on noise. I have heard most of the
sounds of nature obliterated from the lives of people—worse than
that, the sound of the people has been obliterated too.
  Now that I am living at the Morton Arboretum in Lisle, I am
receiving an involuntary post-doctorate in suburban noise. Though
people have a vision of the Arboretum as a nice quiet green island
somehow  immune to progress, that vision is false.  Hemmed in
by ever-mounting traffic  of every  sort, it  is already a victim of
the noise that  people and industry bring with them  when they
are fleeing the inhumane conditions they themselves had created
in the deeper city.
  A short time ago  we had  a  ceremony on  the grounds of the
Aboretum at which Senator Adlai Stevenson spoke. Many of
those in  the  audience were disappointed that they were unable
to hear  him  because of the traffic on  Highway No.  53 where
trucks, attempting to satisfy  the insatiable demand  of people for
a new environment, pace back and forth like caged  tigers.
  I live on the Arboretum and my bedroom window faces south
overlooking the East-West Tollway about 1,000 feet away. The
Burlington Railroad is nearly a mile further south. Jets often fly
by only a few thousand feet overhead. I have no choice in summer
but to leave the window  open, and all night I toss and turn and
have my own violent thoughts about how I can outwit the vibra-
tions that shake not only the sky  but the earth even from those
distances.
  I wonder how many others toss and turn, and  grow angry along
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of noise are inflicted upon those who are trapped in the breathless
city forced to open their windows to  the excretions  of industry,
the hot exhaust of vehicles, and the exhalations of countless office
and apartment air conditioners that  heat rather  than cool  the
environment? Is  it any wonder these people  revolt, burn, van-
dalize, seek refuge on Government property by the lake, as Mike
Chosa and his Indian followers tried to do? The Indians still have
enough instinct left to recognize the kind of environment a human
being needs—what kills and what lifts the spirit.
  At  the Arboretum on field trips I  often try to  tell children's
groups how we should take care of the earth. What hypocrisy!
My words  and their questions  are drowned out by  banging  ve-
hicles and rasping tires. The sounds of frogs or birds or squirrels
might as well not even be.  Not long ago there was national con-
cern about a  silent spring. We have  solved that threat with a
greater one. Who knows whether the spring is silent  or not amid
the pandemonium of modern vehicles?
  Not long ago I spent a morning at the Ogden Avenue  School
in La Grange with a group of young people, trying to show them
what  there was of nature left on their own schoolyard. Amid  the
acceleration and deceleration of trucks and jet noise overhead, I
could  hardly make myself heard  when I tried to communicate
some  of  my  excitement at  finding a  honey bee nest in an  old
maple tree on the school grounds.
  For the sake of economy,  several school buildings in the Chicago
area are now  being used 12 months of the year. Have you ever
tried to teach, or  learn, in a hot school with all the windows open
and the noise  of the traffic  and road repairs boiling up from  the
streets? What is gained by wasting  pupils'  and teachers' time
trying to fight the domination  of  today's  traffic? How many of
the other so-called fruits of civilization,  the  art museums,  the
peaceful  parks, the opportunities for visits and  strolls  in  the
neighborhood have succumbed to the omnipresence of noise?
  On  a farm where I lived and did research, it was an everyday
observation that  vibrations of  every  frequency were constantly
being  exchanged  between animals, men, and the earth—but this
communication was only possible when everything was quiet. Life
is absolutely  dependent on  quietness.  Animals and birds depend
upon it to make their living, to  find their mates, to protect them-
selves  from attack. Embryos still  in  the egg communicate with
their siblings in adjacent eggs and so  synchronize their hatching.
Have  you ever watched a robin lean down to listen for a worm?
What  happens to  the radar of the bats, the trilling of toads,  the
prolonged symphonies of the thrushes when their home ranges  are
invaded by raucous man-made  racket?  For the most part, they
give up.
  Last fall I watched a string  of  sandhill  cranes wending their
way southward over their ancestral route, suburban Chicago, once
a land of marshes and lakes and  clean streams, now become a
checkerboard of  streets blanketed with polluted haze threaded
with the  webs of jets,  helicopters, and  small planes. How much
longer will the wild cries  of the  adults keep  the  young  of  the
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  When animals are made  to listen  to  noise, they grow sullen,
unresponsive, erratic, or violent. Is it any wonder we have violent,
despondent, indifferent people  when  they cannot hear, in their
neighborhood, the once familiar  events by which they timed their
day, conjured  up visions of  friends passing by, of tradesmen ply-
ing their routes, of church  service, or children  at recess? People
need sounds to stimulate the joys of expectation, to reassure them
that they are part of a system, a pattern, or to challenge them to
be alert and observant—and to hear sounds, they need quiet.
  It was James Russell Lowell who said "... heaven tries earth
if it be in tune  . . ." Who can tell, amid the cacophony of today,
whether the earth  be in  tune  or not? I suspect that dissonant
worlds have a  way of producing dissident people. Three years ago
I was in  Washington, D.C.,  and  participated  in  the so-called
"Poverty March" on "Solidarity Day."  It was  a memorable  ex-
perience. I found a lot of  people sharing a  lot of unhappiness,
peacefully. We  were not complaining  just  of  poverty, hunger,
discrimination, or bossism.  Among us  was  a down-deep resent-
ment for the kind of world that was being forced upon us. Few
could epitomize their  feelings—there was only a kind of vague
malevolence threatening us, bringing us together.
  As we stood there, several hundred thousand of us, hoping to
hear  some wise  speaker  who might diagnose  the  problem,  the
malevolence suddenly  revealed  itself as it broke upon us from
every direction  as the careful,  soulful,  often beautiful, even cry-
ing words of the speakers received lash after lash of violent noise
from descending jets, hovering helicopters, and  flatulent buses.
Reverend Abernathy's cries of "soul power" were impotent in the
face of noise power, in the swish and  boom  and scream of pro-
pellers and exhausts and sirens. Prayers, hymns, anthems, and
even  the courageous voice of  Coretta King  were cut down with
impunity.
  Little wonder, I wrote in  my notes, that the people of America
are becoming  violent, sullen, plotting and addicted—for they  are
being dominated by the technological  impudence of machines.
  Noise is  the ultimate insult. It kills what is left of many things
that we have  loved—music, beauty, friendship,  hope,  and excite-
ment—and the reassurance  of nature. Traditionally noise is used
to ridicule, embarass, denigrate, and  curse—while silence is used
for worship,  respect,  anticipation, and love. Do we  hate each
other as much as our noise  level indicates?
  Collapsing Rome didn't give a damn how much noise it made
any more than we do. Read  Juvenal—and weep with him:
  Insomnia causes more deaths amongst Roman invalids than any other fac-
tor. * * * How much sleep, I ask you, can one get in lodgings here? Unbroken
nights—and  this is the root of  the trouble, are a rich  man's privilege. The
wagons thundering past through those narrow twisting streets,  the oaths of
draymen caught in a traffic jam—these alone would suffice to jolt the doziest
sea-cow of an Emperor into permanent wakefulness.

  Will the noise of modern man jolt the  doziest sea-cow of all,
the American city where the sounds  of Ancient Rome have been
magnified a hundred fold? Unless it does, I see no future for man.
  Whom do I blame?  I blame no one. I blame everyone. I blame
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a place to live,  a job to  do, and in  the  process have destroyed
nature and created a tumult of noise borne of their demands for
every convenience and every novelty and every protection from
exercise, from chance, from weather. We each demand too much.
It is our demands that destroy  us, that keep the trucks roaring
and the jets rocketing and giantism proliferating.
  So, like the little ghetto girl who had seen nothing but boards
all her  life, we have become so used to living in this noise-torn
world that we accept the dissonant and the sonorous as part of
our environment. We no longer recognize quietness, nor know how
to use it. But while I am  aware that some can adapt to noise, as
to other irritants, no adaptation is achieved without sacrifice. I
think that if people ever rediscover quietness again, they will  em-
brace it, like the little girl  embraced her piece of tree, and treasure
it as something that is not sawed  and nailed  and misshapen by
man, but which  contains within it some of the secrets of life  and
some of the explanation of why we are here.
  I have  appended  to this list—well,  short exerpts of articles
from newspapers down through the years, just some, though. This
is nothing new, this complaint about noise. Some of these go back
to 1947, and so forth, so that I  just thought  those might  be of
interest to include in the record.
  Dr. MEYER. They shall be included, sir.*
  Dr. ETTER. And I have just a couple of minutes of recordings of
what  I  wake up to, and we will have  the  dawn coming up  like
thunder out there on the arboretum.
  [Demonstration of tape recording.]
  That  is the noise from the tollway, and a song sparrow trying
to make himself heard.
  [Demonstration of tape recording.]
  This is a jet.
  [Demonstration of tape recording.]
  Well, I could go on with that. There is a solid tape here  of 45
minutes of virtually  the same thing, but I am sure  you get  the
general impression.
  Dr.  MEYER.  Dr. Etter, you  are not  only  obviously a  well-
qualified life scientist, but you are a classic natural  philosopher,
and I appreciate your presentation. There is another  philosopher,
whose quotation I am about to read, who  clearly agrees with you,
and I think the audience would like to hear it, also, and I quote:
  I have long held the  opinion that the  amount of noise which anyone can
hear undisturbed scans in inverse proportion to his mental capacity, and  may
therefore he regar'ded as a pretty fair measure of it. Noise is a torture to all
intellectual people.

   That is from "The World as Will and Idea," written in 1848
by Schopenhauer.
  I certainly find your presentation most thought provoking. And
I would also indicate that nature does  abhor noise. One of your
colleagues,  whom  you may know, Carl Krombine of the Smith-
sonian Institute, a very  learned and eminent entomologist,  re-
ported in  the Smithsonian magazine  not  long  ago on a study he
and his wife made on noise from locusts. They found that most
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other insects, squirrels and animals, birds and so on, will abandon
an area in which the locusts are swarming, and some of the panel
sitting here with me  heard the other day in Washington a tape
that was sent to me by a colleague in Dallas of a swarm of cicadas
that had actually been measured at 95 decibels on the A-scale. Of
course, they were observing the same phenomenon, in that virtually
all the wildlife abandoned the area.
  We appreciate your presentation very much. I shall  see to it
that a copy of it goes to those of us who are working on another
panel dealing with physiological, psychological, and sociological
effects of noise. Panel, any questions?
  Professor PLACER. I have one comment. Dr. Etter, the eloquence
of your words was matched only by the impact of your demon-
stration there on the tape. You touch on a very significant problem
which is of tremendous difficulty for any agency dealing with the
noise problem.
  There is  a range of responses to the noise problem from physio-
logical damage, and we heard Dr. Marcus on that, to those noises
which fall  in the area of annoyance, and perhaps psychological
problems, to  what I think you addressed yourself, and well, and
that is the  whole question of life style, the extent to which we are
abandoning a historical life style  without really appreciating the
impact or the significance of it.
  I simply  note this for the record because it's  a terribly difficult
area in which to come  to grips  with  what one  does about the
broad issue of life style, and you have very well called our atten-
tion to that. For that I thank you.
  Dr. ETTER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Anybody else on the panel? Thank you very much,
sir. Our next witness is John Harper, executive director, En-
vironmental Parameters  Research Organization.
  Mr.  HARPER. Gentlemen, I am sure you will concur  that Dr.
Etter's  presentation is a hard act to follow; however, I will at-
tempt to do my  best.  I have a brief statement  here,  anticipating
that this would be a crowded day.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you, sir.

STATEMENT OF JOHN D. HARPER, ENVIRONMENTAL PARAMETERS
  Mr. HARPER. Mr. Chairman, ladies, and gentlemen. My name is
John  D. Harper,  I am executive  director of a non-profit re-
search organization known as EPRO. One of our current projects
is the scientific  research and evaluation of  the  propagation of
sound waves over bodies of water, and the study of the effects
of high energy  sound waves on pelagic life and other marine
biota in an effort to  determine what,  if any, deleterious results
the siting of commercial airports adjacent to or in bodies of water
does or will have on the  aquatic environment.  The results of this
study are  not expected  for some time, so I will  address myself
briefly to two points that are pertinent to this hearing.
  First, we all live in basically an anthropocentric  society. Our
first concern is usually, "What effect does this have on me? ...
How will I benefit? . . .  How will this  harm me?" This attitude
should be questioned. We need to expand our horizons. Man does
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that are just as dependent upon the fragile balance of a healthy
environment as is man. And man's role is as a creature of nature,
dependent upon other living creatures and organisms for survival.
We must acknowledge that the technological society that we have
spawned is depreciating by annoying and harmful noises the basic
qualities of life, not only man's, but of other living creatures to
which man's destiny  is  tied.  There are those among us who de-
fend, for whatever reasons I decline  to speculate upon, the sup-
position that noise isn't really that bad, that it may be annoying
on rare occasion, but  that this is small price to  pay for our great
technological society,  and that it is seldom, if ever with "proper"
care taken, harmful.
  A problem is  said  to  exist when our view of what conditions
are, does  not coincide with  our view of what they should be.
Problems, in short, are products of our values.  Which brings me
to the second point I would like to convey. And that is education.
The education of all members of our society, both young and old,
to the knowledge that conservation of their hearing is just as im-
portant as the conservation of their sight and  other senses. And
again through education  to appreciate the problem of debilitating
noises and learn a consideration of others with  an understanding
of the necessity to preserve a more tranquil  environment. This in
itself would be a considerable undertaking as we have long been
led to equate noise with  power and status. The best truck engines
are the noisiest,  and the most powerful jet engines whine the
loudest. A banging, clanging factory means fervid  activity while
a quiet plant conveys  lethargy. These syllogisms must be changed.
  I believe the two points raised here, the effect of noise on our
total environment  and the education of our society to the debili-
tating  effects of noise, should share  the highest priority of the
many problems that face us. They are real and must be recognized
and remedied if the degradation of our society is to be avoided.
  Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you very much. Again I  find something of
extreme value, as in  all of these  comments we received during
these hearings. I have yet to hear one that didn't have some meat
for us.
  I note your comments  regarding the studies.  One of the things
that we would probably want to do is to contact you further, be-
cause Congress has asked  us to find out who is doing what  and
where,  and  your views  and comments here will be useful  to us
in our studies.
  Mr. HARPER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Mr. HlNTON. Mr. Harper, I am also very interested in this study
concerning propagation of sound waves over bodies of water, and
the effects  of the aquatic life. I had no inkling that there was a
potential problem in this sense, because our initial  idea was that
the location of airport operations at bodies of water would  be an
ideal situation from the standpoint of the people now affected.
  Mr. HARPER. It may very well be for the people now, but for the
aquatic  environment, it could have  a deleterious effect.  Quite
often the  aspects  of  reefs, cause  waves, underwater structures
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favorable, or there are going to be fishermen out there; quite the
converse could be true, with the impingement  of  high energy
soundwaves with noise, the fish  don't have any mortgages to pay.
They could very well leave.
  Mr. HINTON. That is very interesting, that you are looking into
that. I am sure the EPA will be interested in the results.
  Dr. MEYER. That's right. Panel, any questions?
  Mr. HARPER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. The next person to appear
to testify is Mr.  Herbert G. Poertner,  an engineering and re-
search consultant. Mr. Poertner, if you are here, would you kindly
come forward and let us hear from you, sir.

            STATEMENT OF HERBERT G.  POERTNER
  Mr. POERTNER.  Gentlemen, my background  is essentially that
of civil engineering, public works engineering, and also environ-
mental problems of our urban communities.
  I intend to make  a statement of my own personal views today,
and the statement that I will make is, although not profound, I
believe it does, in  its philosophy,  sound  some fresh  notes and
focus some spotlights upon the approaches that people should and
possibly  will take to the  solutions  of some  of  our community
problems.
  The title of my presentation is, "The Pleasure of Living."
  It's a  wonderful,  beautiful world—and it can be even more
satisfying! Life is worth living—and the pleasure of living can
be enhanced!
  I am  against noise—and I have  been ever since I began to
distinguish between sounds and noises. Community  noise is only
one of many problems causing  frustration  and unhappiness in
our urban communities. But,  I believe, there  are other more
severe urban problems—considering the community and its people
as a unit. Some of  these are:  Human desolation resulting from
our abandonment and disregard of the elderly; the misery of the
money-poor who lack satisfactory facilities and care  to provide
for their health and welfare; and the gutting and desecration of
our limited natural resources by those who place "income state-
ment" in a hierarchy superior to "human welfare."
  With full view of these mortal urban problems, I consider com-
munity noise to be a significant and serious environmental prob-
lem and  I believe that it can be controlled to the satisfaction of
most urban dwellers and workers. As with anything worthwhile,
our attention,  energies, and resources must be laid on the line if
we expect to make noticeable improvements  or if we hope to re-
verse the present trend  toward noisier communities.
  Community  noise means different things to different people.
What may appear to some to be an intrusion on the peace and
tranquility of a neighborhood or local office complex may appear
as highlights of community progress to others. Noise is often re-
garded by  the business  community  as sure  signs of community
progress!
  Too often community  noise is regarded as a "thing" or "hard-
ware"  problem—when,  in reality,  it is  both a  "thing" and  a
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noise problems will be expedited if "human engineering"  is allo-
cated its due share of the financial and human resources that can
be made available to dampen and erase noise from the areas of
concentrated human habitation.
  The "probability of success"  of  developing and implementing
meaningful community noise control programs is most likely to
be an exponential function  of  the  means that are applied to:
"Educate" people concerning the consequences of community
noise—physical, psychological, economic,  and social;  "instruct"
them regarding feasible solution; and "motivate" them  to do that
which can be done to reduce community noise. This is not an easy
task, nor is it an impossible one!
  Of these three requisites  (education, instruction, and  motiva-
tion), the latter  (motivation),  is probably  the  most difficult to
achieve.  The noisemakers and the noise-receivers must be moti-
vated in  tandem—to take actions, or amend actions, that will
produce  identifiable  improvements  in the  "sound-quality"  or
"sound-levels"  of a community,  specific area or a point within a
community. The motivation required in one area of a community
may be entirely different from that required in another because
what may constitute noise in one area may be  unnoticed in an-
other because of different sensitivities or different standards and
life styles.
  "Motivation" requires  providing  "incentives"! We  could  call
these "incentives-to-quiet." They can be: Social, economic, politi-
cal, psychological, physiological, ecological, or just "plain human"!
  I doubt that very many of us wish to  be engulfed in a sea of
tranquility in our  quest for quiet; however, the vision  of "peace-
ful" surroundings is inviting and desired by most urban dwellers
and workers.
  If  we are to succeed in abating and  controlling community
noise, we must develop  well-conceived, planned and determined
approaches, and programs. These will not evolve  naturally  nor
will  they become  realities overnight.  They will be given birth
and growth through the  processes of "education, instruction, and
motivation" of the  oppressed and "persuasion, legislation, and
enforcement of law" in the conversion of the oppressors.
  It is important  to recognize that "persuasion" is much more
effective and better  received than methods that  result  in  assess-
ments of monetary penalties and sentencing to penal  servitude.
For  this  reason, it  becomes  necessary to identify and  explain
"incentives-to-quiet" to  the  noisemakers  and the  offended.  We
should impress upon our minds that people usually require sub-
stantial reasons for initiating and pursuing personal or corporate
actions  that  require personal or corporate  sacrifices  or  invest-
ments.
  Much of the "education" and "motivation" can be catalyzed by
civic organizations such as Citizens Against Noise. This relatively
new Chicago-based, not-for-profit, corporation is dedicated to one
basic goal—"making living more likable." The 11-man board of
directors, of which I am a member, has been active on national,
State, and local levels to help identify,  explain,  educate, instruct,
and motivate  noise producers, recipients, and officials  of public
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  We plan an attack first on the major noise sources (as viewed
by many):  transportation,  industry,  and  construction.  Other
sources will be tracked in the order of severity and proliferation.
Citizens and institutions that  wish to enforce and multiply our
efforts are being encouraged  to become a  member  of Citizens
Against Noise. This may be done by writing to the organization
at 2729 Lunt Avenue, Chicago, 111.  60645.
  To  explain some of the details of the need for and  means of
implementing practical community noise control  programs, I am
submitting a written statement today supplementing this more-or-
less philosophical capsule of community noise problems  and their
solutions.  The title  of the  statement is "Community Noise—In
Perspective."  It  explains the dimensions  of community  noise
problems,  the need for  providing  solutions, and the alternative
means that can  be employed to  educate and motivate  people to
assume active roles in  planning, developing, and  implementing
"real-world" community noise control programs.
  In concluding my remarks, I urge the Office of Noise Abatement
and  Control  of  the  U.S. Environmental  Protection Agency to
recommend to the Congress a vigorous federally assisted program
of research and local and  State aids to  place community noise
control before the public in  true  perspective. I also urge that
available  resources  be  focused  upon "human-engineering" ap-
proaches  as well as upon "hardware-engineering."
  Thank  you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir. We will be very happy
to receive your prepared statement and the testimony—the ma-
terial that you mentioned—so that we may use it in our studies.*
It will be in the record and will be utilized in reviewing what the
Agency is going to do.
  Also I might  point out  that  this type of program  that you
mention is partly underway in our efforts to develop the  report
to Congress that I mentioned earlier and in hearings such as this,
and are included in the proposal  now pending in the  Congress to
give us that authority. We appreciate your support, and look for-
ward  to working with groups such as yours in developing a co-
operative effort.  Thank you very much.
  Mr.  PoERTNER. Thank you,  sir.  If anyone is interested, there
are some  envelopes on  the table—small envelopes  for Citizens
Against Noise, if you would like to learn how to become a member.
  Dr. MEYER. Fine. Thank you very much, sir. The  next  person
to appear and give us some information is Mr. Henry Karplus—
I hope I am pronouncing that correctly,  sir—from the Illinois
Institute of Technology Research Institute. Glad to have you here,
sir, and look forward to  hearing from you.

     STATEMENT OF HENRY KARPLUS, ILLINOIS INSTITUTE
                      OF TECHNOLOGY
  Mr. KARPLUS.  Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman,
gentlemen  of the panel, speaking for IIT Research Institute, we
deem it a privilege to be able to present this statement to you dur-
ing your search for information on the severity and consequences
of the noise pollution problem.  Our statement  consists of two
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recommendations  that  we would like to present for your con-
sideration.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you, sir.
  Mr.  KARPLUS.  These  recommendations  are based on  over  20
years of experience by our organization in the study of problems
dealing with the effects and control of noise.
  The first recommendation is that broader dissemination should
be made of the available knowledge to reduce and  control noise
pollution. The basic  techniques of noise control have been known
for many years and these techniques are adequate for the  solution
of most problems. We know how to  construct  buildings where
the transmission  of sound is minimized and we know  how  to
build mechanical  devices which operate at comfortably low noise
levels.
  Unfortunately, however, all too often these principles are ig-
nored, a fact that can be attributed to  the average designer's lack
of knowledge and experience in  this  field.  The  subject of noise
control is rarely included in the curricula of mechanical engineers,
architects, city planners, and others responsible for the design and
location of machinery and factories. Comparatively few universi-
ties teach noise control as a separate subject. If taught at all, it
is often only a small  part of the course in general or  architectural
acoustics. When noise  control is considered as a  basic parameter
in the design of  a machine,  structure, or plant,  the necessity  of
studying this subject is obvious.
  Since there is a recognized lack of  awareness of  noise control
techniques, designers should be encouraged to utilize the skills  of
qualified acoustical specialists. These experts  can often render a
highly valuable service by judging the potential  noise character-
istics of alternate designs. It is  important, however, that their
services be obtained  early in the design procedure, rather than  as
an afterthought when changes often become very expensive.
  Our second recommendation is the establishment  of a  broader
program of research in noise control. In  recent years most re-
search work has  been directed toward the solution of complex,
specialized problems  such as extensive efforts to control jet engine
noise, or  studies  to  reduce the noise generated by  tires  at high
speed. While the  results of these programs will have a profound
influence  on  specific future equipment, there  still are a  number
of problem areas  that will benefit only  slightly from this work.
  One of the main objectives of a broad based research program
should be the development of more  economical techniques for
obtaining the reduction  of noise  generated by existing facilities
and equipment. Although sufficient technology exists  to solve most
of the present noise  problems, these solutions are often expensive
and there is  a great reluctance to put them into practice. There
are many manufacturing plants and transportation facilities
which will be operating for  years  to come  and which  by any
meaningful  measure are far too noisy.  These  facilities are a
nuisance both to  those  directly concerned  with their use and  to
the surrounding community. If the direct costs of installing noise
control were reduced through the development of new techniques,
the problems of implementing and enforcing noise control regula-
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  In conclusion, we are pleased to have been able to present this
statement and trust that these  factfinding hearings will be suc-
cessful here in Chicago and in the other locations on your itinerary.
  Dr. MEYER. We  appreciate  your recommendations  very  much,
sir. They are very well thought out. Panel?
  Mr. HINTON. One comment, Mr. Karplus. I think your recom-
mendation regarding the noise, the inclusion of noise as a basic
parameter in the original design is applicable to all sources.
  Mr. KARPLUS. Yes, sir.
  Mr. HINTON. And I think it's an awfully good suggestion.
  Mr. KARPLUS. So many times we have come a situation  where
it would have cost pennies more in the original design, where it
costs thousands of dollars afterwards, if you have to replace some-
thing, because you just can't get an isolator in, or the absorbing
material in.  There are many techniques which are easily applied
in the original  design  which  are  very,  very expensive  when
retrofitted.
  Mr. HINTON. New York City has learned this in the purchase of
garbage compaction units.
  Mr. KARPLUS. Yes, sir.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Chairman.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Karplus, what is being done in education,
engineering education to alert the colleges to the problem that you
suggest, which is that this become a part of the education program ?
  Mr. KARPLUS. Many of the  universities are putting in environ-
mental departments, environmental  control departments,  noise
and general acoustics programs. They are slowly growing; I  be-
lieve they need more encouragement, and in the environment that
I am in at this moment,  of the Federal Government, I think  the
Federal Government could be involved in  encouraging, with suit-
able research projects, to supplement the budgets of  universities
to advance in this direction more rapidly.
  Mr.  MARTIN. Just a  comment, Mr.  Karplus,  which will be of
interest to you—and I know the other members of this panel—a
new independent  group has  just been formed a few weeks ago
called  the Institute of Noise Control,  and,  in  fact,  one of  the
people  who  testified yesterday, Lew  Goodfriend is  one of  the
people  behind this, just for the record.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes.
  Mr. KARPLUS. Thank you very much.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, I have some interest in the educational field
myself, and I especially appreciate your comments. I would ask
one question; we  have two members of the academic community
here on the panel, as you know.  You sort of hinted  a little  bit
at how you think the Federal  Government might help, but do you
have any specific recommendations with regard  to the leadership
role that we might play without  getting too deeply  involved in
academic freedom, to develop some better multidiscipline training
programs in institutions such  as IIT, and Northwestern, and Uni-
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  Mr. KARPLUS. Your question is what the Federal Government
could do to help?
  Dr. MEYER. To help in this.
  Mr. KARPLUS. The problem is always a difficult one, because you
do not wish to interfere with the academic freedom	
  Dr. MEYER. Right.
  Mr. KARPLUS. And yet I believe that the providing of funds for
research sufficiently attracts the right kind people to these insti-
tutions where  they will be able  to devote the effort to  training
young people, if they can be assured of support. There has been
a birth of support in this field, except the very specific areas that
I mentioned, like jet noise, where aircraft companies  and the
FAA, and Air Force have put a lot of money into this field. But
there are the many small projects which are being conducted, like
fan noise  in ducts has benefited to some  extent from jet engine
noise research.  But the transfer of information is not immediate,
and not that direct.
  I believe that the Federal Government could do more  work in
the immediate area of concern to the people rather than  in the
rather remote area in which the government has been concerned.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you  very much, sir. Your suggestions are
well made, and will be well  taken. I should next  like to ask
Samuel Peskin, of the Chicago Hearing  Society if he is here, to
come forward. Glad to see you, sir.
  Mr. PESKIN.  Thank you,  Dr.  Meyer. I  appreciate this oppor-
tunity to present a brief statement on behalf of the Chicago Hear-
ing Society.
  Dr. MEYER. We are glad to have you.

 STATEMENT OF SAMUEL PESKIN, CHICAGO HEARING SOCIETY
  Mr. PESKIN.  Panel members, we are a  voluntary agency, vol-
untary health agency which has been working for more than half
a century for the prevention of hearing loss, and the alleviation
of the handicapped effects of impaired hearing through education,
through demonstration, through research, and through various
direct services to the hearing-impaired, and their families.
  While we are primarily concerned with the problem of hearing
loss, we have also been  concerned about the total problem  of en-
vironmental noise, not only because it contributes to  hearing loss,
but because of its total human and economic effects, and in March
of 1970 we sponsored the  first communitywide symposium  to be
held in any  local  area on  this problem,  and to inform the com-
munity about it," and motivate interest into action.
  Over the years  we have had direct evidence of the increasing
prevalence and  severity  of hearing  loss that we are seeing  in our
adult, and particularly in our elderly population.
  Dr. Marcus mentioned this morning 20  percent in the 65 and
over. Actually we have just done a preliminary pilot research on
a representative sample  of elderly people, and we find the rate in
excess of 40 percent with	•
  Dr. MEYER. Excuse me, sir. Is  this  in the older group?
  Mr. PESKIN. In the older group, 60 and  older. This is just pre-
liminary, and it will have to be confirmed on a much larger sample,
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pure tone air averages of 30  dB or higher, and  we can  only
ascribe this to the mounting level of noise in our  environment,
both on and off the job.
  There is hard evidence  in the studies of Lipscomb and others
that our young people, in  increasing numbers, are suffering per-
manent impaired hearing.
  We welcome the new Federal Occupational Safety and Health
Act, and its provisions for more effective protection against on-
the-job noise exposure, but we strongly believe that unless com-
munity noise is also reduced and controlled, that the effectiveness
of industrial noise control will  be largely vitiated. The worker
who is exposed to high noise levels on the job must have an off-the-
job environment sufficiently quiet to permit recovery from  the
auditory fatigue that results from the occupational noise exposure.
  This is one point that we feel is very much, very paramount in
all  consideration of  the prevention  and control  of the hearing
problem. We would particularly urge the  Environmental Protec-
tion Agency to  exert its  influence  and powers  to  help set and
enforce noise standards for urban rail transportation.
  Our own—the reason we are emphasizing this is  that our own
very progressive new  city noise ordinance, very progressive in
many other respects, vehicular  noise and other, omit mass rail
transportation regulations, to which hundreds of thousands of our
citizens are exposed for very significant periods of time daily.
  The other point that we  would like  to make  is that, as Mr.
Harper and Mr. Poertner—and I am sure other witnesses—have
pointed out, public education must go hand in hand with control
measures. And we, the Chicago Hearing Society and other counter-
parts of our agency—of which there are some 40 throughout the
country—voluntary  hearing  societies, hope  that  the Environ-
mental Protection Agency will provide us and other groups like
ours with material and other assistance to carry out a continuous
vigorous public education program,  which we,  with our  very
limited resources, cannot carry out without help.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much for a  constructive and a very
useful presentation. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK.  You mentioned a very interesting figure
with regard to the population over 60,  I  believe it was. Do you
have  any information as to the neighborhoods  in which these
people have lived?
  Mr. PESKIN. Well,  this is—we have really just begun to analyze
our data,  and we have information, we have data  that we have
gotten from these subjects where they are now living, and where
they have lived since birth.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Do you plan to attempt to  correlate
the hearing loss with the noise levels in these neighborhoods?
  Mr. PESKIN.  We intend to do that, yes, and with their on-the-
job noise  exposure, and with their  leisure time  noise exposure,
and so on. Actually this is merely a pilot to develop methodology
for a full scale study of hearing problems in the aged.
  Dr. MEYER. Let me ask you one question, sir—excuse the im-
politeness of one of the staff bringing me  a small problem	
  Mr. PESKIN.  Not at all.
  Dr. MEYER. You  mentioned the metropolitan transit.  Do you
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  Mr. PESKIN. There is that  information available, and we can
gather it for you. Mr. Karplus has a great deal of this informa-
tion.  He has made several studies, and we will see to it that  it
is provided. We will see that Mr. Laycock gets it.
  Dr. MEYER. Fine. I would appreciate it if you would.
  Mr. PESKIN. Yes, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. With regard to  your comment  about education, we
have  been  talking to Alice Suter  of your national association  a
little  bit about this,  and we  do  look  forward to working with
you, sir.
  Mr. PESKIN. Fine.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much for your information. The
next  witness is  Mr. Carl Carlson  of the United  Auto Workers
Local No. 6. Mr. Carlson.

               STATEMENT OF CARL CARLSON
  Mr. CARLSON.  Mr.  Chairman and members of the panel, and
ladies and gentlemen:
  I am the safety chairman of the union safety committee  of the
United Auto Workers of local No. 6, Melrose Park, 111. I represent
over 3,000  workers in this International Harvester plant located
in Melrose Park, 111.  It is a heavy type of industry. We manu-
facture diesel  engines and crawler tractors.
  We have a great many problems in these days of layoffs, shrink-
ing pay checks, soaring prices, and all the other aggravations of
modern life; but with all these issues, one of our deepest con-
cerns is the urgent need to upgrade our working conditions.
  It goes almost unnoticed that in America's  mines and factories
and shops  every  81/2 minutes  an  American worker is killed—55
every working day; 278  every week, 1,200 every month, over
14,000 every year killed in the ordinary course of a day's  work.
  We are reasonably sure of this body count,  but we are not sure
of the industrial accidents that stop short of killing their victims
in a number of  diseases,  fatal and nonfatal,  brought on by in-
dustrial processes.  We  can tell how many deer were killed  in
Wisconsin  last year, or how many dollars the taxpayers earned
in this country last year, but  no person in this room or in this
city, or in this country knows  how many workers were robbed of
their  health and hearing in any one industry,  or in any one  State.
  That  shameful record year  after year  is simply tabulated as
one of the statistics that affect insurance expense ratings and
that grand sum we call "gross national product." As  long as the
full dimension of the problems are concealed, the effort to achieve
effective action will be retarded. Serious efforts must be made to
uncover the facts—efforts at least equal to those that are made
to keep track of deer and dollars.
  There are a great many good men assigned to enforce game
laws and tax laws, but no jurisdiction has cared enough  about
workers to put the same kind of effort into protecting them from
death, incapacity or disease, or even recording  their casualties.
No disaster in history has ever received so little attention as the
one that blights  the lives  of  millions of families  of American
workers every year. Can you imagine the outcry of horror if that
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impact were unmistakably plain? Can you imagine a response if
this  happened in one  city?  Can  you imagine the  response  if
Americans found  out that the accidents were  results of apathy
and neglect? Can you imagine their rage if they learn that their
elected officials had the knowledge that the disaster would happen,
and failed to try and stop it?
  The power to save these lives has always existed. It exists now.
We have a jumble of regulations affecting different workers, ad-
ministered by different Government  agencies. Most of them are
weak rules, weakly administered.
  Let me cite a few examples: One, the Walsh-Healy  Public Con-
tracts Act. This law is 35 years old and never has been enforced,
and I know of no personal history of any company being brought
to bear to live up to this law. Two, natural gas pipelines. The
first year  this had six employees to administer this important
law. Three, fire research and  safety,  passed in  1968;  no funds  to
implement it and carry it out. Four, State and community high-
way safety. A very small  portion of money has been authorized
to implement this law. Earlier  this  year Congress has at least
accepted the necessity  for studying  national guidelines to curb
industrial  abuses, and to establish penalties  to make sure these
guidelines  were observed. This  was the  Williams Occupational
Safety and Health Standard Act  of 1970.
  We have had  many  serious problems  in  my  local. We have
asked for and received  inspections from  Federal  authorities. We
have  asked for and received  inspections from State of Illinois
inspectors. We have  had  citations after citations given  to the
company, but because of the  lack  of enforcement some of these
things are  still here, and are still on the books since 1967.
  And in keeping with this new law, the Williams Act, on May
the 5th we sent to Mr.  Edward  Estkowski, Acting Regional Ad-
ministrator, Bureau of Labor  Standards, Occupational Safety and
Health Administration, 219 South Dearborn  Street, Chicago, 111.
60604, the  following letter:

  DEAR ME.  ESTKOWSKI: Local No. 6 UAW charges management of Inter-
national Harvester called company, Melrose Park Works, with the enclosed
list  of violations. Six of these violations are from a previous visit of Mr.
Colleran from your office.
  There has been a  deterioration of many rules  and we are hereby notifying
you that under the new  Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 there
exists the imminent danger practices here at Melrose Park Works.
  There have been many meetings  and surveys between management and the
union, but management has continued  to ignore some very serious violations.
  We would  welcome your immediate attention and concern.
  Sincerely,
    Carl Carlson,
     Chairman, Safety Committee, Local No. 6, UAW.

  We cited 32 violations  of  the Walsh-Healy Public  Contracts
Act and requested,  under section 5(a),  figure 1, general duty
clause, an  immediate investigation. We received no investigation
From Mr.  Colleran or  reply  from Mr.  Estkowski. Receiving no
reply, on July 21, 1971, we  addressed this letter  to  Mr. George
A. Guenther, Assistant  Secretary, Safety and Health Administra-
tion,  U.S.  Department of Labor,  14th Street and Constitution
Avenue NW, Washington,  D.C. 20210.

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  DEAR SIR: Please find enclosed copy of letter sent to Mr. Edward Estkow-
ski, Acting Regional Administrator, Bureau of Labor Standards, Occupational
Safety and Health Administration, Chicago, 111.
  As you will note, this letter was sent to him May 5, 1971 with an enclosed
list of  violations  charging International  Harvester Co.  with  violations of
Occupational Safety and Health Act  of 1970, section 5 (a) (figure  1) of the
act (general duty clause).
  We have had no response from Mr. Edward Estkowski and therefore are
informing you that if we do  not receive  relief from the violations we will
bring action against Mr. Edward Estkowski as per section 13 (d) of the act
(procedures to counteract imminent dangers clause).

   Now, that clause in that new  act reads as follows:

  Section 13 (d) :  if the Secretary arbitrarily or capriciously  fails to  seek
relief under this section, any employee who may be injured by reason of  such
failure, or  the representative of such employee may bring action against the
Secretary in the U.S. district court  for the district  in which the  imminent
danger  is alleged  to exist, or  where the employer has its principal office, or
the District of Columbia for  a writ  of mandamus to compel  the Secretary
to seek such an order, and for such further relief as may be appropriate.

   We have areas in our plant that has  both been  surveyed by the
Federal people,  Federal inspectors, been surveyed by the company
hygienist, has been  observed and surveyed by the  State people
where we run over 115 dB on the A-scale 8-hours a day, 40 hours
hours a week. To me, this is imminent danger.
   We  have not received  any kind  of response,  except  a token
response. The company's  answer, when we bring these  up—it's
no disagreement that each of  these things that we  have, these
that they are making an engineering survey on, and it's a serious
problem.  It's going to cost a lot of money.
   We hereby charge that this noise problem has not  been given
any attention by the Federal inspector, even when union requested
help. Management has tried  to  stop the union from making  our
own survey, threatening  to  fire  any union  man using  a noise
level meter.
   Gentlemen, as I said before, no law, no matter how well it is
written, has any meaning  at all unless it is implemented both with
enough appropriations, with enough  money, and, in this condition,
in the  condition I have cited here, the people that I represent are
exposed daily, hourly, to this noise problem. It is a problem that
the company is aware of, the company engineers are aware of,
the  Federal  inspectors  are aware  of, the State inspectors  are
aware  of.
   The only response we get from the company is strictly tokenism.
   I  charge, gentlemen, that any law that must be  enacted must
have some appropriation, some way of enforcing that law such
as we  are doing now, in order—a section should be in your  law
to give the people the right to enforce the law—if necessary going
to courts to have it done. That concludes my statement, gentlemen.
Thank you.
   Dr. MEYER. Thank you  very much, sir,  for  an  interesting  dis-
cussion of some of the real problems that exist in trying to satis-
factorily control some of our very high environmental exposures,
such as exist in industrial plants. And, as you wisely point out,
you are well aware of the  fact that the Walsh-Healy Act has been
rescinded, if I  recollect correctly; it was  incorporated into  the
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Wilson Act. That act came  into being, signed by the President
late in 1970; the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare
and the Department of Labor have been going through  an or-
ganizational effort to attempt to rapidly reach a  capability  they
didn't have until this act was passed, to deal with the problems
that you are raising.
  I would like to ask one question.  With these identified sound
pressure  levels of 115  dBA  in the plant,  of course, this  clearly
violates the Walsh-Healy, which were carried forward into the
new act,  until replaced by others. Are you being required to use
hearing protection?
  Mr.  CARLSON. Only  in one area,  the  engine  test  area.  It's
strictly tokenism. If the employee wants to go to  the trouble of
going to his foreman,  obtaining a pass,  going  downstairs and
signing a form, because of this elaborate procedure, obviously the
employees don't want to go to all that trouble.
  They figure, what is the use? They are the internal type of ear
plug, which necessitates keeping them clean.  They are hot,  they
are uncomfortable to wear because of the pressure. Because there
is no educational program as such to educate the people  on the
type of damage that is occurring, obviously they  are not using
them, or utilizing it to the full extent they should be.
  Dr. MEYER. I see, because you touched on an important point,
the education of the worker to the need for using hearing protec-
tion, particularly if management does provide it or make it avail-
able. One of  the more  difficult problems that some of us  had in
certain situations is to get the worker to realize  that by  failing
to take this protective  action  he is  really hurting himself. I am
sure you heard some of the presentations  here	
  Mr. CARLSON. That's correct.
  Dr. MEYER. That clearly show  noise can cause  hearing loss. I
am not familiar with this plant, so I can't get into  the  debate
about the type of equipment and how easy it is to quiet or not,
because I don't have the facts. There are certain  circumstances,
as you mentioned, around the engine test facility when you some-
times have to run an engine, a bare  engine.
  Mr.  CARLSON. That's correct.
  Dr. MEYER. I wanted to ask you a question, assuming  an en-
lightened management-union  approach. What do you envision the
role of the union shop steward in helping to get  the worker in
those situations where you get an environmental control in using
these devices?
  Mr.  CARSON. Well	
  Dr. MEYER. Can  the union do  something about this with the
workers ?
  Mr. CARLSON. Yes, sir. We have taken the approach in our union
relationship with the company that employment and safety at that
plant should be a condition of employment. We have had a lot of
criticism because of that approach, but as far as I am concerned,
it's better for a man to be  without  a job than to be either im-
paired or damaged  in some way.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. This noise of 115 dBA continuous, is it for the
entire  work shift, or does it vary in amplitude, maybe dropping
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  Mr. CARLSON. In the engine test area, because of the number
of engines  being tested, it would remain constant. Some of the
other areas even go higher than 115—go up to 116—are the areas
where they clean parts;  these large parts, after  being washed,
they use a large air hose and the air of 100-pound velocity hitting
the different holes causes whistling sounds, and this is where you
get a very  high reading. Now, there is special  nozzles available
that cut down the amount of air flowing out of it, but the company
tried there.
  The engineering department come out and said they ruled them
out because they didn't do a good enough  job of  cleaning, so
obviously there the  company made a choice whether they wanted
a clean  product or a noisy product, and obviously they discon-
tinued using the type of air nozzles that would  cut down on the
noise.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Are the measurements being made in the vi-
cinity of what would be an operator's ear, a man who would have
to be there 8 hours a day without any chance  of walking in or out
of the area? In other words, do you have individuals who have an
8-hour exposure to this level ?
  Mr. CARLSON. Yes, sir.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. And they are wearing earplugs?
  Mr. CARLSON. In some  areas they are. In some areas they are
not.  They have no protection at all.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. No muffs available?
  Mr. CARLSON. No muffs or nothing.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Because plugs can have the seal broken without
knowing it  for sure, and then their protection is worthless.
  Mr. CARLSON. That's correct.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I would recommend highly that you go to muffs,
and  then you  are still—it's a marginal level of safety, because
about 30 dB on muffs would be about all you can expect	
  Mr. CARLSON. I agree with  you, and	
  Dr. WHITCOMB. And that brings you  down to  85.
  Mr. CARLSON. The leadership of our union agrees with you, but
the very difficult part about this thing is that  we  have to try to do
it by—I don't want to use the word "coercion"—by education, and
the company can do it by coercion. It's that simple.
  If you have a man who  doesn't realize the full impact of the
problem because the insidious thing about hearing loss is that you
don't feel it. If you had a—if you felt pain when you had an ear
problem with noise you would be wearing protection, but because
of the lack of response and the lack of pain, you  are  not aware
of it, that you are suffering this loss until it's too late.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Perhaps you mentioned this, but is hearing
being monitored for these people?
  Mr. CARLSON. We have had an innumerable amount of surveys,
including a 24-hour around the clock, where it  was recorded on
paper as far as the noise levels, and the noise level varied in this,
one engine this action was continuous all around the clock, in-
cluding Saturdays and Sundays.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. I am sorry, I misled you. Is the hearing of the
worker in this area being monitored every 6  months?
  Mr. CARLSON. Only in the  engine  test area,  not in the other
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  Dr. WHITCOMB. Are they seeing progressive changes?
  Mr. CARLSON.  They would—this information we would not be
given, because we asked  for a survey before, and the company
said  we were uneducated, unqualified—we  wouldn't know what
to do with the information if they gave it to us.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Mr. HINTON. I have a question of Mr. Carlson, Mr. Chairman.
  Dr. MEYER. All right.
  Mr. HINTON.  Mr. Carlson, I would like to ask you a question.
It has been my observation that the major labor unions in this
country have been notably successful in educating their members
in many areas.  I would like to know if the UAW or any other
union that you  know about has instituted educational programs
to advise their members of the need for protection, self-protection.
  Mr.  CARLSON.  We  have a program now that is now being
started coming out of Detroit. It is getting around to the financial
secretaries and the presidents about the new Williams Act.
  But here again it's all based on a voluntary participation  by
the people, and that is where the real difficulty comes in, because
some of these things have to be, must be conditions of employment.
  You can't rely on a man you are educating, a man that he is
creating permanent damage to himself; you have to insist that
he wear the protection, and this is where the unions are in trouble
because we don't have that right to shut down an operation. We
don't have a right to tell a man, "you can't go to work unless
you do this."
  The company does. We  have insisted the company should follow
that  procedure;  we have insisted the company should do some-
thing about it in the area of the high noise  level, where it exists,
it should be a condition  of employment. If the  man  refuses to
wear the proper  equipment, whether it's face shield, gloves, shoes,
he can't work. It's that simple, he can't work there.
  Mr. HINTON.  The airlines have a similar  policy about ear pro-
tection for their employees on the ramp.
  Mr. CARLSON. That's correct.
  Mr. HINTON.  But I would recommend to you that you institute
an educational program,  and not await the  company's  taking the
action you feel is necessary.
  Mr.  CARLSON.  Unfortunately we have some very,  very poor
experiences as far as trying to get the company to do something
about something that they should be doing something about. For
instance, noise problems, we have had noise problems as far  as,
as long as we have had that plant, because  it's very difficult, for
some reason, because nobody is against safety per se, or is against
noise level readings. Everybody agrees with that.
  Where the problem comes in, and when it  costs the dollar, when
they have to make a choice as far as putting in X number of
thousands of dollars to do soundproofing, they have it right here
on Michigan Avenue—on Michigan  Avenue  Harvester has the
quietest office. The only  noise there is the clickety-clack of the
secretaries walking to and from the offices.
  We don't expect that kind of thing in a  plant, but we expect
some consideration when  they design new fixtures, when they put
in new machining operations that they engineer into those things
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  Mr. HINTON. Well, I am not disagreeing with you on the point
you just made. I was just thinking from strictly the enlightment
of your members as to the damage that they are suffering, or may
suffer, or will suffer under such conditions that you have described,
I would think the union could be very helpful in educational pro-
grams, and even to the point of providing the ear protection out
of your own treasury, if this has not been forthcoming from the
company.
  Mr. CARLSON. Well, not that I like to belabor the point, but the
education is nice when you have people that are receptive. Some-
time we are dealing with people that  don't have a proper type of
education, that know that they  are  there to make a living, to
work for 40 hours, or do whatever they are supposed to be doing,
so they get their paycheck.
  It's pretty difficult to educate some of these people when their
main concern is problems at home, making out on the job, making
the  number of pieces during the day, and as  far as educating
them, I don't disagree with that point,  but it  shouldn't be the
union's responsibility.
  I think the company has  much  more to gain from  this,  and
should be more concerned with it, and not take a negative view-
point that if it costs money it has to be  put off, and something
else  has to be  done, or something else be minimized as far as
spending money; spending the money is always the big problem.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Professor KERREBROCK. I would like to make sure I understand
your position on this, is it that you think that the union member-
ship by and large would accept the position that violation of these
rules is  grounds for dismissal by the  management?
  Mr. CARLSON. On a guesstimation, I would say I think that 80
percent of our members would agree with that position.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I  see.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. I appreciate your coming
and giving us this  somewhat different problem  to look at. Thank
you.
  Mr. CARLSON. I would like to submit these copies of these letters,
and also the thing to the panel.*
  Dr. MEYER. I should now like to ask Mr. William Singer, Alder-
man from the 43d Ward of Chicago, if he  is  here,  if he could
come forward. Mr. Singer?
  [No  response.]
  Dr. MEYER. Is Mr. Richard Young, editor of  the Pollution  En-
gineering Magazine present?
  Mr. YOUNG. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Good to see you, Mr. Young.

              STATEMENT OF RICHARD YOUNG
  Mr. YOUNG. Dr. Meyer, panel  members: My  name is Richard
Young;  I am editor of Pollution Engineering Magazine, and to-
day I hope to also  switch hats and  talk to you about some of the
other positions I hold.
  Thankfully the Federal Government has realized the need for
noise controls, first through the Walsh-Healy revisions, and then
  " This material is on file at the Office of Noise Abatement and Control.

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through the Occupational Health and Safety Act. We are now
doing something to protect the man at work, which is of extreme
importance. But what happens when he goes home? I think this
is  of  equal  importance—and what  about his wife, who is also
sitting home during this  time?
  By  the establishment of the noise limits and the Occupational
Health and Safety Act,  the Federal  Government has,  in effect,
established product noise limits.
  The reason  I say that is because any  good plant engineer, or
engineer in industry now faced with complying with this Federal
law doesn't buy a piece of production equipment without specify-
ing noise limits. Therefore, the Federal Government has, in effect,
got into the business of indirectly specifying noise standards.
  Therefore I suggest that something does need to be done at
home  also about specifying noise limits.
  We have all got  children, and although I have terrible thoughts
in my mind how to quiet them down  at times, I suppose I can't,
but there are  home appliances, blenders, mowers, portable tools,
all which can be substantially reduced in their noise output.
  For example, we can take many of the large industrial machines,
automatic lathes, and in the factory for just a few dollars, really,
more-—often times only a hundred dollars more substantially re-
duce the amount of noise output that  a big engine lathe  or  a
turret lathe can make, and I say we can also do this on a produc-
tion line basis with the small home  appliances.
  Recreational nature  vehicles certainly need  to be controlled.
They do present a major problem in many portions of the country,
from the minibikes to snowmobiles, and here in the Midwest, out-
board motors  are of  an extremely serious nature, with the noise
output. Construction machinery, the methods  of controlling noise
from  construction  machinery  are known, and have been known
for a  number of years.
  The city  of Chicago is  now requiring certain types of construc-
tion machinery to  be controlled. However, we need some sort of
standards established whereby all of these construction machines
will be controlled.
  Actually this gets  off into another area that EPA is involved
with,  and that is the area of solid waste disposal.  One of the big
complaints that residents of, residents near a solid waste landfill
site will complain about,  will be  the  noise  from  construction
machinery, and then finally we get into the area of transportation;
cars and trucks for a long time have been muffled, and for a long
time have had their mufflers wear out, and have had young high
school boys cut holes in  them  to bypass them,  etc. We do need
some  standards established whereby  we can maintain these noise
levels  for these types of vehicles,  but also  we need them for
diesel trains.
  A diesel  engine  is  a relatively simple machine, we will say, to
control the noise from,  and yet we have a number of  suburban
areas throughout  the United  States  where diesel trains,  diesel
engines are parked for hours at a time and allowed to run up, or
just sit idling while the crew may be off doing some other duties.
  We  have a major problem  in communities  surrounding this
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Lake, where there are repair facilities. Then, finally going on to
the subject of airplanes, airplanes engines, jet engines  and piston
engine noise can be substantially reduced, and there is  a sufficient
amount of information available to prove this fact.
  We also have a problem,  though, in the numbers; in the area
of Chicago we have O'Hare  Field, which started off as  an airport
with a relatively few number of pistonoperated planes taking off
from it. Then came the jet, which substantially changed the noise
level, but also the type of noise being generated, and since 1950,
when the jet was introduced  into  O'Hare, to the present time,
the numbers of takeoff and  landing operations have substantially
increased, so that the airport is no  longer functioning  the way it
was originally designed, and therefore it has  had a tremendous
environmental impact upon  this entire area.
  I believe that the Federal Government should establish overall
community noise level standards. They have  presently, with air
pollution standards and water pollution standards, and as those
two contaminants, noise also knows no boundary, and therefore
should be the control of the Federal Government  in establishing
those standards.
  Additionally I feel that the Federal Government should establish
noise limits on specific classes of equipment. As a magazine editor
responsible to those engineers who are responsible for noise con-
trol, I  know that the methods and devices for controlling noise
are available,  but industry also  wants that  worker to  be pro-
tected at home,  because he  is incurring hearing losses at home,
and because of this, he is increasing his absenteeism from the job.
  Now, as an environmental advisor to several State governments,
I know that States need Federal guidelines to follow. As an educa-
tor I know that there is extensive research information which is
now available to efficiently control major noise  sources. As a pollu-
tion control officer I need numbers, and I need  numbers that I can
easily enforce.
  We have many cases where there are  noise levels  which are
established in octave bands,  and yet I have probably 1  of 2 dozen
octave  band analyzers in the entire Chicago  metropolitan area.
We need  limits that are established in  decibels—A-scale pref-
errably—that would make enforcement of noise standards easy.
  And finally, as a citizen, I am getting tried of all that noise out
there, and I wish something would  be  done, and I hope that you
will do  it.
  Dr. MEYER.  Mr. Young, thank  you very much. I have enjoyed
your presentation. As you know,  legislation pending in Congress
does indeed cover many of the areas that you suggest.
  I was particularly pleased that  you pointed out the relationship
between another  environmental problem, such as the solid waste
problem, and the noise problem, in that all of these environmental
activities are interrelated, which you and  your publication recog-
nize. It points up the need for, within EPA, of all  of its elements
working together so that we don't windup with somebody giving
a grant to some  municipality for solid waste  disposal activities
that results in a source of noise.
  Mr. HlNTON. Mr. Chairman, I have a question for Mr. Young.
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  Mr. HINTON. I notice that you recommend the establishment
of standards on a Federal uniform basis for these noise  sources
that you refer to. Now, how would you establish standards for
community exposure into terms of a cumulative exposure  level as
opposed to control at the source ?
  Mr. YOUNG. Mr. Hinton, I believe that this has been established,
the number, the NEF factor was established by Bolt, Beranek
and Newman,  and has been completed and released to the U.S.
Department of Housing and Urban Development, although I can-
not truly appreciate it, an NEF factor of 30, because it  doesn't
particularly mean anything to  the housewife, or to most of us
here.
  I can say that, yes,  when I get above 45  dBA that we do have
a marked increase in the amount of complaints which come from
residents, and I would therefore hope that we would establish an
overall community level on the A-scale.
  Mr. HiNTON. Well,  no, I don't believe you can establish com-
munity  exposure—
  Mr. YOUNG. Not exposure.
  Mr. HINTON. On  a measurable standard that is directly meas-
urable.  What we are  talking about is the cumulative standard
which you referred to,  I think correctly, as the NEF—for example,
in terms of aircraft  noise it  probably could  be a lid to other
sources  of  transportation—now, what  I  have in  mind is would
you support the State  establishing community standards,  because
presumably under our constitutional separation of powers,  you
have a  State  where the constitution  gives  to the States  the so-
called police powers, which include the environmental control that
the State wishes its citizens to have.
  Some States apparently  are more concerned about the lifestyle
of its citizens than  other States are.  I don't think we are going
to change that, even if the Federal Government should desire to.
  Now, I guess basically the question is  do you favor the establish-
ment of exposure levels, exposure standards on a cumulative basis
by States or local government and regional government, or  Federal
Government?
  Mr. YOUNG. I believe	
  Mr. HINTON. I am speaking of the enforcement, too.
  Mr. YOUNG.  Yes,  as far as the enforcement, I believe that the
enforcement probably is going  to be left to the State and local
level. It's going to have to be. I simply cannot see in my own mind
that the Federal Government can put out enough  people to make
these measurements.
  Mr. HINTON. Well, okay. You know,  once  you establish a stand-
ard and it's adopted, or its modified, if the Federal Government
should recommend a standard for community exposure, it would
be modified by a State to be more or less stringent, than it would
be up to somebody  locally, obviously,  to enforce it, because  this
would be a standard  which was  adopted by the State  or local
government.
  Mr.  YOUNG. Yes, right. I would—I would  hope,  just as the
Federal Government has established air quality criteria, that they
would establish noise  quality criteria.  In turn, the State, under
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its residents, and would have to establish standards to meet that
criteria,  and most State constitutions do have the provision to
allow the county municipal governments to also enforce that law,
and  I  would see this as being  the logical way to enforce it—
although I feel  that there is a need for the provision  for the
Federal Government, in the hat of the EPA  to come in  if these
standards are not being complied with.
  Mr.  HlNTON. That might require a constitutional  amendment.
I am not sure.
  Dr. MEYER. The rest of the panel ?
  Mr.  MARTIN.  Mr.  Young,  you indicated, of course, a strong
desire  to see the noise of vehicles reduced  and, of course, the
testimony that was received yesterday from the manufacturing
industry, the economic consequences,  or  cost of doing this was
brought  out very clearly. Is it your  impression that the public
would  be willing- to pay for this, or do you feel that the  govern-
ment should  impose certain taxes to  pay for bringing this into
being?
  Mr.  YOUNG. When you speak  of economics and environmental
control, it's extremely  difficult, because eventually that  dime to
pay  for  whatever  has  to be controlled has to come out of the
consumers' pocket. Do I feel that companies should bear the bur-
den? In many cases, yes, I do, because I feel  that the technology
is available. I am a former designer of mobile equipment myself,
and  I  know, and I know that noise  levels can  be  substantially
reduced.
  The  continual comment that we hear made by various airline
representatives will be that if we force them to further reduce
the engine noise, that the efficiency would be drastically changed.
Well, possibly this requires a drastic change in some of their con-
cepts of design.
  Right  now, for  instance, we  have, as far  as the  automobile
engine is concerned, a method which is available for $25  per car
that  would substantially reduce the air pollution emission below
what is required by the Federal Government. It's going to require
some work on the part of the automobile  manufacturers to in-
corporate this type of thing, because this was done on the basis
of looking at the internal combustion engine as being an inefficient
mechanism, and trying to improve it—and they have.
  Dr. MEYER. Any other questions?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, sir.
  Professor KERREBROCK. You mentioned the problem of noise
due to appliances in the  home. I think this is a very, very  im-
portant problem, and I would  like to get  your feelings  on  one
aspect of it. I know of a case where a certain company built two
models of dishwashers. One is expensive, the deluxe model, and
the other one is a functionally identical model, but it's stripped,
and the deluxe model is sound proofed.
  Now, I inquired of the salesman when  we were interested in
one of these dishwashers as to whether I could buy the stripped
model,  but  with the soundproofing, and not  the other features,
and the answer was no, this is the way it comes. The  difference
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  The  question is do you think that  if sufficient pressure were
brought to bear, the noise soundproofing could be introduced to
these things that are required on these appliances  without  the
other features? And  is there a mechanism by  which we could
do this?
  Mr.  YOUNG. Could  noise control be incorporated without	
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes.
  Mr. YOUNG. Including some other automatic features?
  Professor KERREBROCK. Maybe more specifically, do you think
that if the noise  output of devices was somehow publicized,  put
on the label of the appliance, the public would respond?
  Mr. YOUNG. I don't believe so, no.  I don't believe that most of
the audience out  here knows  what a decibel is. Most of my con-
tacts that I have,  who are fellow engineers, we all had this  school-
ing, we all had in school something on acoustics in  physics and
electrical engineering and, of course,  the moment we all got  out
of school, we all tried to forget it as fast as we could do.
  It's tough enough talking decibels without going in and talking
octave bands.  I  don't think  the people can appreciate what a
decibel is, and what it means. I think that the label on the blender
would have to be  the type that  it's on, the type that you have on
a cigarette package instead, a little stronger warning.
  Dr. MEYER.  Would  my colleague yield a moment to the chair-
man? What you  are  saying is the same thought that has been
concerning us, because if the administration's legislative proposals
are enacted by the Congress and some of the  nonadministration
proposals also include this labeling requirement, it's causing a lot
of concern for the very reason  that you mentioned. We have  ex-
plored some ideas, and we are going to certainly talk to a lot of
social scientists and communications people to get at this, because
maybe what one has to say—and I don't know how you say it on a
blender base maybe that big, [indicating],  or on the side of a
garbage  disposal  sitting in the showroom,  but maybe what you
have to say is, "When you are using this device you can't  hear a
baby screaming if you are  more than 3 feet away," correlate it
that way, you know. I mean, the housewife,  or even the other
wage earner, or the other members of the  family who  are con-
cerned with this can correlate that sort of interference, so I think
the thought is well made.
  I don't really  think of the  dBA  on the  side  of a  blender or
vacuum cleaner as being very meaningful, and  I am not denigrat-
ing the knowledge of the American public. As you mentioned, there
are a whole lot of us who are engineers and scientists who have
difficulty coming up with understanding some of this.
  Mr.  YOUNG. I believe this  is  a very serious problem you  are
going to have, if you are going to be required to do any labeling,
and very probably what we need is  a program such as the  old
FWQA had, the Federal Water Quality Administration had where
it tested the amounts  of phosphates in detergents and then publi-
cized this by brand name. Possibly we have to publicize all of the
decibel levels of all of the blender manufacturers.
  Dr. MEYER. That is an excellent suggestion. Thank you very
much. I yield back to you, if you have  any further questions.

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  Professor KERREBROCK. No; I think that helps a good deal. In
other words, this might help, but really the road to success  is
through regulation rather than just publication.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Chairman.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, indeed.
  Professor PLACER. One  comment, if I may, perhaps elicit your
response to this, and that is your call for some sort  of noise
criteria, for noise standards. You made the analogy to the air
quality  standards, or the ambient air standards,  ambient air
criteria.
  I am  sure you are familiar with the history of both air and
water standards, ambient  air standards which we  have had for a
number of years, and which have had  absolutely no impact on
improving the condition of either the air or the water, and that
there must be a step beyond that, of translating those into some
sort of performance standards, or some sort of emission standards,
and the difficulties that  we are  now finding ourselves in, so that
may I take it that your call for some sort of general noise criteria
would go beyond simply establishing  criteria?
  Mr. YOUNG. I think it should. I think it should go beyond that,
and possibly in the field of noise we have to get down and establish
numbers. But  again I say that if we  are going to  think  in terms
of establishing noise levels with numbers we are going to have
to make it nice and simple to enforce, or it's not going to be
enforced.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you very much for stimulating our  thinking
as to some things we need to look at very carefully. It now being
12 p.m. let me ask before we recess for lunch, if Alderman  Singer
is here?
  [No response.]
  Dr. MEYER.  Ladies and  gentlemen, we will recess for  lunch at
this point, reconvening promptly at 1 p.m. at which time we will
continue with  the various witnesses who have asked to be  heard.
Thank you for being here.
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                         AFTERNOON SESSION

   Dr. MEYER. Ladies and gentlemen, may I call to order the fourth
session of the  Environmental Agency's hearings on noise,  which,
as I announced earlier, is being  conducted  under Title 4,  Public
Law No. 91.604.
   I have had delivered to me by special delivery a statement by
the  Honorable Roman  C.  Pucinski of  the  llth  Congressional
District of  the State  of  Illinois,  with  a request that  this  state-
ment  be  included in the  record,  and that I  read  from  it. With
appropriate deference to the legislative branch of the government,
I  am  pleased and honored  that Congressman Pucinski  has seen
fit to send this statement. I shall read it for the record:

  Gentlemen,  back  in 1844, the German  philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer
observed that "the amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands
in inverse proportion to his mental capability *  * * . Noise is a torture to an
intellectual  people."
  Many of the people in my congressional district lying to the east and south
of O'Hare Airport are tortured daily  by the intolerable levels  of jet noise.
Since my first election to Congress in 1958, I have devoted a great deal of
effort and time to alleviate this serious problem.
  Noise pollution is  not a new phenomenon. In  fact, the word "noise" comes
from the same Latin derivative as nausea. Julius Caesar even had his  troubles
with noise pollution. Caesar, however,  did not have to deal  with the "guide-
line writers"  at  DOT,  FAA,  EPA, NASA, HUD or any other government
agency you can think of. When the  clatter of chariot driving  disturbed his
sleep, he simply banned their use at night.
  Although not new,  noise pollution  has reached  a  crisis  stage.  Excessive
noise has become a way of American life—to a  point, I believe, where Amer-
ica is now the noisiest country in the history of civilization. That is  scarcely
a distinction we can be proud of.
  As a result we suffer from chronic  fatigue, increased Hood  pressure and
decreased working and mental efficiency.
  The  International Standardization Organization  of acoustical experts has
warned that "if airplane and vehicular noises continue to climb at their pres-
ent rates, everyone living in a city will be stone deaf  by the year 2000."
  "The present rate of increase is 1  decibel a year, according to this report.
To make the picture even more ominous, it is estimated that by 1980, 78 per-
cent of the American population will be living in 12 major metropolitan areas.
Incredible as it may  seem, leading experts tell us of  I he strong possibility that
78 percent of this country may be deaf in 30 years.

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  Surely we can all agree that we are in the middle of a crisis and action—
not speeches, not proposed rulemaking, not more studies—action is required.
  I am confident we will succeed in frustrating- this grim prediction by taking-
effective measures before it becomes a reality.
  We had  the  first real stirrings of action back in 1968.  Legislation I co-
sponsored was  enacted into  the  Noise Abatement Act. Public Law  90-411
provided a legislative mandate to  the Federal Aviation Administration  to
regulate  aircraft noise. The PAA was authorized  to establish comprehensive
noise regulations concerning present and future aircraft.
  Since enactment,  the FAA has implemented only part of Public Law 90-411.
Part 36 of  the FAA regulations established 108 EPNdB as the tolerable noise
limitation for future subsonic aircraft.  (108  EPNdB is about the level  of
noise heard inside  a subway  car moving at 30 mph.)  No  noise regulations
have been adopted for the current jet fleet, such as the DC-8, DC-9, 727, and
707—all  of which operate in excess of 108 EPNdB. Only the DC-10 and 747
are now operating at 108 EPNdB or less.
  Last year,  the FAA  issued an advance notice of proposed rulemaking on
noise reductions by current jets. By their own admission, no new regulations
will be issued before the end of 1972.
  Anyone familiar  with administrative rulemaking knows that the announced
time goal won't be  achieved. The  date already has been set back more  than a
year. The ponderous bureaucratic maneuvering will inevitably further delay
any meaningful rulemaking.
  So what  can be  done now?  There are three basic approaches  to the reduc-
tion of jet noise:
  1. Move the noise away from the people.
  2. Move the people away from the noise.
  3. Reduce the noise made by the airplane.
  Airports  have been doing all they  can to implement  the first approach.
Approach and departure paths have been established to minimize flight over
residential  areas. Steeper climbs and  descent  paths, at all  times consistent
with safety, are being followed.
  The second approach—moving  the people  away from  the  noise—is  totally
unacceptable.
  In the first place, most of the  homes  near O'Hare were  there well before
it  became  the  world's  busiest jet airport.  The  relocation  of  hundreds  of
thousands of  people, the disruption of their lives and the  destruction of entire
communities is  no real solution.
  Yet that approach is receiving serious consideration and  in some cases is
being implemented. The city of Los  Angeles recently  bought a  home  for
$97,000. It  will now pay someone to demolish that home. This is taking place
as part of  that city's land use program.  By the time this stage  is completed,
three residential neighborhoods will have been wiped out. Eight thousand per-
sons will have been moved at a cost  to the city of more  than $200 million.
  There are tens of thousands of people living near Los Angeles International
Airport.  It seems readily apparent to  me that this means of removing noise
disturbance to the people below by removing the people just won't work.
  NASA and DOT  estimate the high noise areas around J. F. K., Los Angeles
and O'Hare  airports amount to about  42,000 acres—which is  three times
more than  all  the  land redeveloped  during 16 years of urban renewal at a
cost of more than $5 billion.
  Even if it were  economically feasible,  why should people  be disrupted and
displaced to solve a  problem not of their own making?
  A recent study was conducted by the Northeastern Illinois Planning Com-
mission for the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The report
concludes that  the  idea of  buying up homes  around  an airport is,  as one
source said, "sound."
  That conclusion  must not be allowed to stand unchallenged. It is economi-
cally and humanely unjustified.
  The best, most comprehensive,  and  effective  means of  reducing noise is by
getting to the source of the noise. In order to do that, I have introduced legis-
lation, H.R. 10136,  to reduce jet noise by 50 percent by 1976.
  The legislation provides:
  1. That noise levels of current aircraft must be reduced  by 10 EPNdB  or
meet part 36  noise levels of 108 EPNdB,  whichever noise reduction is greater.
  2. The U.S. Government will provide $35 million to  demonstrate the feasi-
bility of retrofitting.
  3. The U.S. Government will provide guaranteed loans to carriers for the
purpose of modifying their aircraft prior to 1976.
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  5. Grants to State and local agencies to pay the cost of administering air-
port noise monitoring systems.
  We  have paid for study after study of the feasibility of retrofitting—in-
stalling acoustical material  in the cowling or housing of jet engines and  en-
larging the size of the engine's exhaust outlets.
  The  NASA  Douglas/Boeing studies and the FAA  Rohr report indicate
that a complete  fleet retrofit can be accomplished within 5 years from  the
time a program is established.
  NASA has awarded an $18 million contract to General Electric to develop
a jet engine which will produce 20 less DCB's than present engines and  GE
hopes to be testing' such an engine by the end of this year.
  The  industry does have the  technological capability to achieve  this goal.
In contrast to  the billions and billions  of dollars required for a land use pro-
gram,  retrofitting of the current fleet would cost  about $856 million. The
NASA tests demonstrate that retrofit can  reduce  the  noisiness  of landing
turbofan aircraft by 50 percent and reduce the noise affected area  under  ap-
proach paths by as much  as 85 percent.
  Retrofitting  is an  expensive item. I am mindful that the airlines could  not
undertake that program without assistance. My  bill provides up to $1  billion
in guaranteed  loans for the airlines. It also instructs the  Civil Aeronautics
Board  to  approve a fare increase of  about 1 percent  if the airlines  do  re-
quest to pay off these loans for retrofitting their aircraft with quieter engines.
  The  Environmental Protection Agency has an important role  to play in
noise pollution control and abatement.  It can be  a strong advocate  of legisla-
tion such  as I recommend and can provide  the  incentive and inducement as
well as enforcement  of other steps toward reduction of noise.
  For more than 10  years, jet aircraft  noise has adversely affected the quality
of life  in communities near  major airports. How long must they endure these
intolerable—literally deafening—levels of noise? I  say no longer and urge
the EPA to be  a strong factor in bringing meaningful relief.

   Since  Congressman Pucinski  does  not have  a  staff  member
here,  panel,  if you  have  questions  and desire to give them to me,
I will transmit them to  Congressman Pucinski and see to it that
he and his staff  furnish us  replies so that we may include  them
with the record.
   Now,  the  question of O'Hare  has  aroused some interest and
some  degree of  controversy,  and I  should  like to read for the
record a telegram that I  have received; the telegram is as follows:

  Dr.  Alvin  F. Meyer,  Jr., Director  of  Noise, Environmental   Protection
Agency, Sheraton Hotel,  Chicago.
  Deeply  shocked at your public suggestion to destroy homes  in the O'Hare
area;  dismayed  that you would urge action prior to  conclusion  of present
hearings seeking solutions to aircraft noise. You  should be protecting environ-
ment for people, not  aircraft. Relocate aircraft rather than people.
  Please clarify your position prior to conclusion of Chicago hearings today.
  Alan M. Abrams,  alderman, eighth ward, Des Plaines, 111.

   Now, I have read the newspaper accounts of the interviews, and
screened the television tapes of interviews with me on  that sub-
ject,  and I find nowhere in  there a statement that I recommended
this as an action. For the  public  record I should like to  read the
telegram that is  going to be dispatched within the next  few min-
utes  to the Honorable Alan M. Abrams, alderman of the eighth
ward, Des Plaines, 111.

  Reference your telegram  as to O'Hare Airport, I am  as  deeply shocked as
you regarding any misrepresentation of my position on aircraft noise control.
  My view is that there are many possible solutions to the complex questions
of control of the environmental problem. Among the possibilities are control
of noise at the source, relocation of the source, placing more distance between
sources and receivers, control  of time  of operation, reduction of number of
operations and occurrences.
  In each case, what is  ultimately done must be based on a judgment  of eco-
nomics, social need, and technological  capability and  progress for control
expected.

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  What is right for one situation may be exactly the wrong thing for another.
Specifically re O'Hare, I  did not and do not endorse, suggest, or advocate a
particular course of action. That is a matter for decision by the people of the
communities affected through established political processes.
  I would be pleased to discuss this with you further, signed by myself.

   The record shall  so show this. Will you have that sent, please?
   We will now proceed with the course of our hearing, and as an
aside, I will say I would be pleased to discuss this  issue, but the
Environmental Protection Agency is in the process right now of
getting facts and information as to what needs to be done. And I
certainly do not want to prejudge the results of a very extensive
study, and the  results of these hearings,  by attempting to come
up with off-the-cuff recommendations as to solutions of local prob-
lems with which I  am not  thoroughly familiar. I hope I will be-
come more familiar as a result of some of the witnesses who are
about to appear, so at this point  I would like to ask Mr. George
Franks if he would come forward.  I understand he is  the chair-
man of the O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council, and I hope
that he will illuminate  myself and the  panel,  both orally and
otherwise. Sir, nice  to have you here.
   Mr. FRANKS. Thank you, sir. I  will try to make this as brief as
I can, because  of the urgency of time—I understand  all of you
gentlemen are in that spot.
   Dr. MEYER.  Sir, would you get that microphone  a little closer
to you? I want to be sure the audience, as well as the  panel, can
hear you.

             STATEMENT  OF GEORGE J.  FRANKS,
          O'HARE AREA NOISE ABATEMENT COUNCIL
   Mr. FRANKS. All  right. Am I getting through now? I  would like
to say my name is  George J. Franks. I am the president of the
O'Hare Area Noise  Abatement  Council, and I  will go into that a
little further shortly.
   The O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council was not  something
that was  planned and worked at. It happened—it  happened  out
of sheer necessity. It  all started back in 1965—let's say that my
interest became started in  1965.  I lived in  the area, and I have
pictures to prove it, which  I will  later on pass out—I won't take
up the time to  show you some  of the areas that we live  in, and
they are beautiful.
   We never saw a  plane, never saw one. Then in about July of
1967, we  said,  "What is that?"  And it came directly over  the
homes, and I got a  few phone calls.
  I happened to be  president of the Homeowners' Association at
the time, so I got a  few  phone calls. Well,  they went on for a bit,
and then we started to  look into  it, and then in checking it  out
we find that the planes  were turning—now, we were  told that
there was some repair work going on in one of the  runways, and
until that repair work was finished, we would be disturbed.
   Well, being temporary, we all had that patience. It's an Ameri-
can characteristic, and it's also an American characteristic to get
in touch with your  congressman.  We got  in touch with our con-
gressman, Congressman Erlenborn, and he was very accommodat-
ing. He came down and talked to us, and then he looked into  it,
and he wrote a letter—and I have a record of that letter saying
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being done, we would have to suffer for awhile, and so let's wait
through the summer months, let's wait and see.
  We decided to wait and  see what happened; nothing happened.
It just continued to get worse. Then the mayor of Wood Dale at
that time was getting very  much pressure put on him that I wasn't
aware of,  and other mayors  of other towns, and  presidents of
other towns were getting pressure put on by their constituents.
  Out of sheer necessity they had to have a meeting—a meeting
of the minds, so to speak, to see what could be done about the
growing menace of O'Hare International Airport. I was requested
to chair that meeting temporarily, so that is how it started. And
then I was elected the  chairman, and we incorporated, and now I
am the president, and it just grew on and on. It's very important
that everybody know it was not planned; we didn't work at it—it
was just out of sheer  necessity. Now,  this O'Hare  Noise Abate-
ment  Council was incorporated not for profit. I have here a few of
our purposes of the meeting:

  To promote and encourage laws for the protection and conservation of the
environment in general, and specifically, protection against specific noise pol-
lution caused by jet aircraft.
  To encourage, by legal  means, the  enforcement of  legislation against all
means of polluting, and especially against noise pollution.
  To promote, foster, and encourage education of its members and the general
public  to the dangers to the environment caused by excessive noise, especially
noise caused by jet aircraft.
  To promote, foster, and encourage the actions of all governmental agencies
to limit the  use of O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, 111., to the use
and capacity as it was originally designed.

  I have a few others,  and I will pass them  up.
  It's very important that we say "to  the capacity and use as  it
was originally designed," because it has been a growing monster.
It's getting bigger and  bigger.  The people that are affected by
this noise had to have someone to turn to.
  Apparently our council  was the answer; they could vent their
fury on us. We listened to them. We got letters, and I have enough
documentation-—I  will just refer to them, and later on I will back
them  up, if necessary.
  In addition to the public participation we have got resolutions
from  school district No.  100, from Dr. Zuckerman; school district
No. 2, from Mr. Kenneth Kaufman; we had the Maine Township
District 207, from Mr. R. R. Short; the board of supervisors, the
County of  Du Page; and the board of  education, Mannheim Dis-
trict 83.
  I want everyone to  understand that we  are a responsible due
process group. That is the  only way we are going to operate, and
we have brought it up to this—I will clarify that a little later—we
have  letters confirming official appointment to the  O'Hare Noise
Abatement Council from all the elected governing  bodies of the
villages.
  We are still respected. They have a man, through vote, resolu-
tion,  vote, and installation that we have  a member  from every
village on our council, and  that is 19 of them, and it's  since grown
—I will only speak to those I can document.
  When the airport, and we  were very aware of  it, the airport
was about to be expanded,  we requested from all the villages reso-
lutions  condemning the  expansion plans of the city  of Chicago,
and we got them, we got 17 resolutions, and I can document that.

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Then we had—I wanted authorization, official authorization from
the governing bodies authorizing the circulation of petitions to be
signed ,to be delivered in person to Washington, and I got that.
   This tells you of the kind of people we are, whom we represent,
and why. It's not a few people; it's not one, it's not just myself,
or three or four men—it's  the entire body.
   The problem is very, very, very serious. We have listened—we
have listened to very many experts, scientists, and physicists. We
know the problem. We realize and sympathize with them;  all we
want them  to do is to  know of our  problem and  sympathize
with us.
   We—I will go down to the citizen; the citizen has no expertise.
We are just judges,  as judges without trial, frankly, but we are
trying to get that phase of it done.
   We have  gone through step by step  by step. We had a mass
meeting in Bensenville in  May of 1970—our council is not that
old.  Now, as to when the city of Chicago petitioned the Secretary
of Defense for transfer of 365 acres of land, that was the first
thing that we did accomplish, and publicly I would like to  thank
the  four congressmen who were very  great, they sincerely co-
operated. We had a mass meeting, got publicity, and we wrote a
letter to the President, directly to the President—I have a copy of
that, but I won't go  into it because it's pretty long. All I wanted
to give you was our logic, and the reason for how we talk.
   Dr. MEYER. All right.
   Mr.  FRANKS.  At that meeting we wanted to unlock the silent
majority that is often referred to, and the last flag I saw  repre-
senting the  silent majority had the stars and stripes—the silent
majority has to wake up, or they are going to be buried. I refer
to that  in  the  presentation,  and  I requested letters  to  write
through due process. We  apparently got the letters because we
got all the action in  the world, and the process was stopped, the
transfer of land was stopped.
   Four more runways are going in,  after all our crying and
hollering  and complaining and doing  it legitimately,  the only
understanding we got, "Go ahead with  the  airport."
  I got an answer from the Justice Department, which is the only
authority—I don't want to get into too much detail, it's not that
important—we heard  from all  the congressmen;  then  we met
with the congressmen individually, and we met with the congress-
men collectively, along with the mayors, and the mayors and the
citizens, along with the congressmen in one group meeting, and
at that time—and I will  get down to  that—we  requested nine
points. In my summary I will finally say that what we have re-
quested from our congressmen we are requesting from this Board.
  Our original purpose, to start with, when we first began, we
knew how far we could get because we were  that sensible. We
knew that if we got it to this  stage where we are  at  today—
which I call a "congressional hearing"—I think it's about as far
as we can go.
  You have heard the experts;  you have  heard  the  scientists,
and the physical results—people are peculiar. You have to under-
stand the general public. Apparently the elected officials do under-
stand the general  public,  and certain people in the position to
exploit the general public understand it, because they know what
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  We, being a citizen affected by the noise, also understand that
they understand, and we are talking- about—we are taking appro-
priate actions. We have gone as far as we know how to go.
  We have this notation—we have made enough noise of our own
now, to emphasize that, we have noise, so  apparently as a result
of that we had the new noise regulation of the city of Chicago.
They do not exempt  airport  noise,  but they don't talk about it,
either. There is no enforcement, so it's like going to the city of
Chicago and saying, "We lost a button," so they sew up the hole.
We still got the problem.
  Dr. MEYER. That is a beautiful analogy, sir.
  Mr. FRANKS. I would like to say that when you cut out  one
segment of our society in any ruling, it is unfair and discriminat-
ing. In our  efforts—in our  efforts  to pursue our point, and I
would like to  illustrate now about  expert testimony,  I have a
picture here which I will submit as  evidence, and  I have a little
note attached, and the little  note I  attached  is just enough for
you to give your Board some  information:
  Dr. Alvin F. Meyer, Jr., Director.
  The attached copy of the Fianklin Park Herald dated July 22, 1970,  tells
the  story of jet aircraft  noise and dirt as affecting Franklin Park and Elm-
wood Park.

  Dr.  MEYER. It's received  for the  record,  sir.  It will  be  in-
corporated."
  Mr. FRANKS. This is the  Mont Clare Leyden Herald. Here is
a little  girl—I would  like to  have all these reports and all these
committee  hearings we have gone  to the  NASA  report, NIPC
report,  and the State subcommittee hearings,  we  have attended
them all, the Illinois  Pollution Control Board  Hearings, explain
this to this girl, what is a decibel?
  She is about 8 years old. Now, you  just tell her that a decibel
is not noise, it's only 15, 20, 80, or 100,  she doesn't know  this.
This is the result, and, of course, the experts have told us this.
  This reads:
  The attached copy of the Mont Clare Leyden Herald dated August 5,  1970
details the impossible, unbearable, dirty jet aircraft noise as  affecting Schiller
Park residents. The citizens in this area are in a state of complete despair,
and reflect an attitude of "no hope."
  Until acceptable solutions are available OANAC suggests  to shut  down

  Nothing can be done to help these people, nothing. Did anybody
ever think about shutting  down that runway? Business  is  bad
anyway, I  understand. Mine is. I guess  the aircraft industry is
also having a little bit of suffering, but I would like to have some
of the experts tell me how to explain this to these people.
  Now, we went through the  Federal Aviation Administration
several times. I am not going to go  through all the details. I  will
just give you a brief  synopsis, I will submit it as evidence.  The
O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council and the Federal Aviation
Administration, on October 13, 1970, had  a meeting.
  Page 1, confirming meeting and the date.
  Page 2, the list of participants that were in there.
  Page 3, my presentation to the meeting, showing our five points.
  : This material is on file at the Office of Noise Abatement and Control.

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  Now, we asked for five points on page 3. The conclusions, noise
abatement procedures which they had submitted at the time, and
we  still have  a copy.  The noise abatement  procedures  are  not
worth the paper written on, agreed to by all.
  We changed  one turn,  27L,  changed 27L from 290° to 280° to
help Elk Grove.  Then the run-up  problem—Pat  Dunn, airport
manager, "We are going to take care of the run-up problem," and
we  want the glide slope raised a bit. Then  appoint responsible
people to advise Mr. Schwank and Mr. Callahan to monitor the
noise abatement procedures.*
  Now, we  have had  this noise  abatement procedure for some
time at O'Hare, but there is no policing it, and I got that covered
in my nine points. I will get to that a little later. We are asking
for  federally appointed referees or supervisors, or  a captain of
O'Hare Airport to have a monitoring system, which we must have.
  Now, we  had a meeting here  with the congressmen  and  the
mayors. Now,  I brought this  along for one reason, which is to
show that we are a responsible group, and who is involved.  We
have got to prove the  magnitude of the job. It's not a few, it's
not one or two.
  I guess that is on August 17, 1970, a meeting with the Congress-
men, four congressmen and the mayors shows signatures of  34
delegates representing  19  municipalities.  Six mayors have signed
this—six mayors as well as  other  governing officials. The nine
points were recommended by the O'Hare Area Noise Abatement
Council to  Congressmen  Collier, Crane, Erlenborn and Pucinski
in that meeting of August 17.
  News release from Congressman Erlenborn in summary of the
above meeting, recognizing the nine points. The nine points that
we  are asking for—and we are, in turn, asking this panel to please
consider—and I have others—are:
  1. Limit flights  to 100 per hour as prior to East-West Runway installation.
  We ask this  because we weren't told there was a  new runway
put  in.  They told us, confirmed by Mr.  Erlenborn,  to wait and
see  when the repairs got finished  on other runways,  we would be
relieved from the noise. Then we find out that, I guess, everybody
was misinformed—as  politely  as I know  how to  say—and we
found out a new runway had been opened, quietly,  peacefully—
except for the noise.
  2. Close airport 11 p.m., to 7 as is  done in Europe.
  3. Legislate procedures for supervision of noise abatement.
  4. Provide for appointment of noise abatement control officer.

  That is what I had reference to.
  5.  Terminate all runways  and taxiways expansion  plans, including  all
work in process.
  That leads me, before I go on, to that new Northeast-Southwest
runway; I think it's 422, it's about to  be opened.
  Now, I have  the date of this meeting, August 17. Do you know
how much action we had planned making everybody aware what
our problem was, and  the only sympathy we got  was they con-
tinued to go ahead, and the runway is going in.
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  Now, we will get more members on our council as the problem
starts to hit them. It might be advisable  at this time to sort of
illustrate that the noise is  a peculiar thing; if you are not there,
of course, there is none. Then how can you understand it? I will
pick that up a little later in my letter to the airlines,  we left no
stone unturned.
  6. Establish acceptable Federal commercial aircraft noise standards.

  Federal  Aviation Administration has  established  standards.
They established these standards according to  what is best, or
what can be done, could be done with the state  of the art at the
time.
  Well, if the best they can do is 108 and 109 decibels, then we
just don't,  we can't accept that. We are this country, and we are
the very citizens  that this country  is for, and if you want to
discuss  the quality, is there a better cross section than, let's say,
an affluent suburbia; where do we go from here ?
  7. Provide funding for modification of existing engines for noise reduction
to conform to noise standards.
  8. Allocate SST funds to engine noise reduction retrofit costs.
  9. Begin construction of another airport.

  I was very careful not to say "the third airport," because the
third airport has  already been  put  in at O'Hare. I am not even
sure we got the first airport. We don't  consider Midway an air-
port. We don't want our problems transferred out there. If  they
agree to take half of our flights and put them out to Midway,
what kind  of hypocrites would we be, to take  a  problem from us
and put it  out to Midway?
  We need an overall answer, a complete answer for the good of
the people. Well, these were the nine points that I submitted to
the group at that time in the meeting with the  congressmen and
the mayors, and the congressmen have been working on them.  I
have the letter of  confirmation acknowledging  the meeting.*
  I have another one here  that—before I get into my own disser-
tation, here is a picture of an airplane [indicating].
  My note to you, Dr. Meyer:
  A picture is worth  a thousand words, and the attached  is proof of the prob-
lem to illustrate the point.  The story details some of  the action involved,
names and number of communities involved.
  Your group can study that.*
  I couldn't help  cutting this out. This is a NIPC report, and  I
will just leave it here for your study.
  Dr. MEYER. All  right.
  Mr.  FRANKS.  Now, how far has all this work gotten us. We
have—we know of all the reports that were out.  The NIPC report
was turned out. We were asked how we felt about that 15-month
report being undertaken by NIPC.
  Well, my answer to that was we don't want to wait 15 months.
That is a long time, and the noise is here every  day, every night,
and how do you justify a thing like that to a man hanging by his
thumbs; every second is  an  eternity,  and we have got  it all
the time.
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  We  had our Illinois Pollution Board hearing in Park Ridge.
There was a general comment of everybody attending that meet-
ing, and there was an absence of the noise, so it seems like word
does get out. In order to promote	
  Dr.  MEYER.  Could I interrupt, sir—I have an urgent call from
Washington. I want to hear everything you have to say. Can we
recess for about 4 or 5 minutes?
  Mr. FRANKS. Certainly.
  Dr.  MEYER.  With your permission, sir.
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes, sir.
  Dr.  MEYER.  Thank you, because I want to  hear everything you
are saying.
   [Short recess.]
  Dr.  MEYER.  Ladies  and gentlemen, thank  you for your indul-
gence. If I can reassemble my panel, we will  reconvene after this
brief,  but rather  necessary recess.
  We  have got a  quorum. All right, sir; continue, sir.
  Mr. FRANKS. Since all this work notwithstanding  into the, in-
volving the airline owners, developers, design engineers, et cetera,
with all  this work going on, I must remind you to remember that
the noise has  not  stopped,  and people are  still suffering under
this noise, plus also remind you  when you leave  here, if you don't
have this problem,  it will be completely forgotten.
  But those that have the  problem, they go home to the  same
noise,  so it can never be forgotten. We are  reminded of it through-
out the  day and throughout the night—sometimes more severe
than others, but  it's  constantly  there, it's a  severe, rotten head-
ache, and we don't like it at all, and in our pursuit to get some-
thing  done as  rapidly  as we know how, we appealed,  and wrote a
letter  to the  Illinois Pollution Control Board, which I will include
also as part of  the information to your  committee, Dr. Meyer.
The letter reads as follows:

May 8, 1971.
STATE OP ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD,
189 West Madison St.—Suite 900,
Chicago, III. 60602,
Airport AToi.se Standards Hearing,
Samuel T. Lawton, Jr., Hearing Officer.
  GENTLEMEN : One purpose  of this  letter is to  express the support of the
O'Hare Area Noise  Abatement Council  for the program embarked upon by
the  Campaign Against Pollution (CAP)  organization. Although we cannot
judge technical excellence of the material  submitted by CAP in their proposal,
we do heartily endorse their recommendation to alleviate aircraft noise by
whatever  means  necessary. Further, we wish to add comment on the unbear-
able aircraft noise surrounding O'Hare International Airport.
  I, and several members  of the O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council, have
already testified  before your committee and have  made our views known. We
wish to again  go on record to underline the serious need for relief, and to
emphasize the enormity of the problem.  It is not a single area, nor is it a
single group that is affected. Rather, the magnitude of  aircraft noise pollu-
tion is  far reaching- and  widespread. The O'Hare  Area Noise Abatement
Council, encompassing- some 31 communities contingent to and surrounding
O'Hare International Airport, expresses the deep concern of many thousands
of citizens in the  communities affected  by aircraft  noise.
  The State of Illinois has set the pace for noise and air pollution legislation,
and your  committee, being an important part of  that program, is to be com-
mended for its role in  the total undertaking. Through the hearings and testi-
mony submitted,  a complete record of expert information and facts has been
gathered,  which  when properly correlated, will  chart the path for aircraft
noise relief. The Illinois Pollution Control Board is an excellent example of
due process in action and can only lead to adequate  regulation of the noise-

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makers. We are therefore appealing to your Board to recommend that laws
be applied equally to all offenders, exempting no one, including aircraft.
  We question the discrimination practiced by the PAA and airport operators
when they decide what planes will fly over whom and for how long. We ques-
tion placing  a higher  priority on  aircraft passenger comfort than on  the
welfare of helpless  residents.  We  question the practice  of discrimination
against homes, health,  and the  contentment of so many, again, for the com-
fort of aircraft passengers. We  question the set standards which discriminate
against taxpaying  homeowners for  the benefit of plane schedules and costs.
We question  all of  these, and many more discriminatory practices.  That this
should exist in an era when discrimination is outlawed is almost unthinkable.
  We will soon feel the impact of new antinoise regulations upon  private
enterprise and upon ourselves, ordinary citizens. Yet aircraft noise is  ex-
empted. The  very people who have  cried out for help will be the ones made
to pay. Why this discrimination? We are appealing to the Illinois Pollution
Control Board to include this in their report and recommendations.
  We will soon see this law enforcement  swiftly swoop down on offenders
such  as noise  from  trucks, defective car mufflers, lawnmowers, automobile
horns, automatic machinery, punch  presses, and other vital industrial equip-
ment. The fines will be stiff and the  punishment severe—including plant shut-
downs.  We appeal to the Illinois Pollution Control Board to question why
aircraft  noise  remains  the only privileged nuisance in our otherwise  just
society.
  Recently the airlines spent money  freely to improve comfort and service
to the traveling  public to  encourage more business to offset the  recession.
Money was spent  to make bigger  and bigger planes with  more  and more
seats. More and  more planes were  added to more and more  routes. All this,
of course, with no consideration for  and  directly against the best interests
of the noise-burdened residents surrounding the airports.  Now, more money
is being spent to remove seats, install cocktail facilities, and kitchens to in-
crease passenger comfort. Costs do not seem very important.
  We are appealing to the Illinois Pollution Control  Board to demand an  im-
mediate engine retrofit program for noise  control, costs notwithstanding, to
make modern air transportation almost as comfortable  for ordinary citizens
as it is for air travelers.
  Insulating, at great cost, public places such as schools, churches, hospitals,
restaurants, office buildings, and the like, would probably accomplish a degree
of  noise  relief. However, for  homeowners, we must insist that insulating
homes is  out of the  question  as a  total solution to the  noise problem. Noise
cannot  be insulated  from outdoor  living, -which is  the  primary reason  for
suburban development.  Outdoor living is  one of the greatest and most  im-
portant parts of our lives. And presently many governmental agencies have
made it a policy to encourage greater outdoor  opportunities, including parks
and other facilities, for everyone. We urge the Illinois Control Pollution Board
to recommend that  our right to enjoy the outdoors be preserved.
  The city of Chicago is incapable of and unwilling to control aircraft noise.
The city  of Chicago is still attempting to effect the  transfer of 365 acres of
Government-owned land for further airport  expansion, in direct contradiction
to evidence submitted by the various investigating committees. All of our com-
plaints and all of our pleadings have  fallen on deaf ears in the Chicago City
government,  which  presently enjoys the  control of and the  profits from
O'Hare. They are not responsive to  the interests of any citizen suffering from
aircraft noise problems, particularly those  outside their own boundaries.  We
must emphasize that this control of this facility be placed in responsive  and
responsible hands.
  We strongly urge that the Illinois Pollution Control Board recommend that
the  O'Hare  International Airport be placed under the supervision of a State
port authority.
  Congress has seen to the good of the people, for their protection, by passing
laws such as Truth  in  Packaging and Truth in Lending. We firmly believe
that  the  Illinois Pollution Control  Board  is  dutybound to  recommend that
suitable and proper legislation be enacted to guarantee similar protection for
citizens wishing to live or build in areas contingent and adjacent to airports.
We suggest the following concepts:
     1. A  Truth in Airport Area Real Estate Act.
     2. A  Truth in Airport Expansion Act.
     3. A  Truth in  Assessed Valuation of Homes in Noise Impact Areas Act.
  A  copy of this  communication is being  sent to the Honorable Governor
Richard B.  Ogilvie for his study and understanding, together with a request
for a meeting to discuss proposals or other matters for the development of a
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to provide some degree of aircraft noise relief while permanent solutions are
being developed.
  Sincerely,
  GEORGE J. FRANKS, Chairman/President.
  O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council.
  R. C. BLOMBERG, Director.
  T. DEKA, Director.
  Carbon copies:  Richard B. Ogilvie, Governor of the State of Illinois; State
Senators—Districts 2, 3, 4, 5, 15, 16, 39;  State Representatives—Districts 2,
3, 4, 5, 15, 16, 37; Charles H. Percy, Senator;  Adlai  E. Stevenson III, Senate
Office.

   Back on May  15,  1971, I  wrote  a letter  to  the  O'Hare  Area
Noise Abatement  Council, and I introduced  the action  that they
should take to  encourage and promote Senator Cranston's bill, of
California, the retrofit bill, and that information reads as follows:
MAY 15,1971.
To All Members:
  The O'Hare  Area  Noise Abatement  Council, along with many cities  and
organizations across the country have expressed our support for a quiet en-
gine retrofit program to reduce noise. Our group, OANAC, particularly made
it an issue  in  a  meeting held August 17,  1970, with Congressmen Collier,
Crane, Erlenborn, and Pucinski. At that meeting we proposed nine needs to
relieve our grievances which were acknowledged in a joint statement by the
four Congressmen in  a news release dated September 29, 1970. For reference
sake I will list needs  6, 7, and 8 from  our list, that are most affected at  this
moment:
      6. Establish acceptable Federal commercial aircraft noise standards.
      7. Provide  funding for modification of  existing engines, for noise re-
    duction to conform to noise standards.
      8. Allocate SST funds to engine noise reduction retrofit costs.
   Senator Cranston of  California  has introduced a  bill which would accom-
plish this, designated  as S. 1566. A copy of this bill is enclosed for your study.
A "Summary of  S. 1566" is also  enclosed for easy reading.  Congressman
Wilson  of California has introduced a companion bill designated H.R. 7523
in the House of Representatives. We must concentrate action immediately to
assure passage of these bills. The Federal Aviation  Administration has never
made it clear that it intends to proceed with a quiet engine retrofit program.
We need a  congressional mandate requiring  that aircraft engines be made
quieter.
   If we act aggressively, this legislation can pass. We neeed to program our-
selves as we did  in blocking the transfer  of 365 acres of  land to the city of
Chicago. We must proceed with:
      1. Letter to your Senators, endorsing passage of the bill.
      2. Letters to  your Congressman.
      3. Notify other cities, organizations,  or  individuals, and urge them to
    write to their Senators and Congressman.
      4. Urge others to write to others.
      5. Send a resolution from your municipality to your U.S. Senator and
    your District Congressman (a sample copy is enclosed for suggestions).
    Please send a copy of your resolution to  OANAC for record and ready
    reference.
   Through our endeavors to date, we have  made some progress.  By keeping
up the pressure at this crucial time, we can realize a good measure of success.
   The above is the  first of our summer action for  aircraft noise relief.  The
Congress has seen to the good of the people, for their protection by passing
laws such as Truth in  Packaging and  Truth  in Lending.  We firmly believe
that the Congress is duty bound  to pass suitable and  proper legislation to
guaranty similar protection for  citizens  wishing  to live or build in areas
contingent  and adjacent to airports, throughout the country.
   The second phase of our summer action, again for the good of the people,
is to petition for a Senate hearing or congressional  hearing, to  request the
following legislation:
      1. A  Truth in  Airport Expansion Act.
      2. A Truth in  Airport Area Real Estate Act.
      3. A Truth in Assessed Valuation Act (of homes in noise impact areas).
   Mr. Citizen has the right to know, not guess, what he is getting into when
relocation of home  is desired, and feel secure  that the facts have been fully
projected.

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  More details on this will follow as the program progresses.
  Sincerely submitted.
                                             GEORGE J. FRANKS,
                        Chairman, O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council.
                                             RICHARD C. BLOMBERG,
                                                        Vice Chairman.
                                             T. E. DEKA,
                                                        Vice Chairman.

                                  S. 1566
  A BILL TO amend the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 in order to provide for  more effective
control of aircraft noise. Introduced by Senator Cranston, April 1971.

  Be  it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives  of  the United
States of America in Congress  assembled, That Section  611 of the Federal
Aviation Act of 1958, relating to the  control and abatement of aircraft noise
and sonic boom, is amended by inserting at the end thereof the following:
  "(d)  Effective on  and after January 1, 1976, all  Subsonic Transport Cate-
gory  aircraft operating within  the jurisdiction  of the United States shall
reduce their  takeoff, approach and sideline  noise each by 10 EPNdB from
their  1971 noise levels or to the levels as set  forth in Appendix C  (not
including section C36.5(c)), 14  C.F.R. chapter 1, part 36, and as prescribed
in Docket No. 9337, 34 F.R. 18364,  November 18,  1969, and amended by
amendment 36-1, 34  F.R. 18815,  November 25, 1969; 34 F.R. 19025, November
29,  1969, whichever  noise reduction is greater. No airplane shall operate in
violation of the prescribed noise  levels.
  "(e)  (1)  The Administrator  shall undertake by contract  on immediate
program of  research on representative  aircraft  models prior  to  January 1,
1974,  to demonstrate compliance by prototype flight test with subsection  (d)
of this section. Such contracts may be entered into without regard to sections
3648 and 3709 of the Revised  Statutes (31 U.S.C. 529 and 41 U.S.C. 5),  and
shall  provide  that each  contractor shall repay the amount of the  research
and development grants if the  sound reduction  devices  developed  pursuant
to those  grants are  sold commercially. Such payments shall be covered into
the treasury as miscellaneous receipts.
       (2) There is  authorized to be appropriated $35 million to carry  out
    the provisions of this  subsection.
       (3) The findings  of all research and development grants  made  pur-
    suant to this section shall be made available to foreign aircraft corpora-
    tions which  produce or have produced  aircraft covered  by the noise
    standards of subsection (d)  of this section.
  "(f)  (1) The Administrator may, upon terms and conditions prescribed by
him, guarantee in whole or in part the repayment of any loan or  other form
of financing made to an air carrier for the purpose of modifying airplanes
prior  to  January  1, 1976, to meet the requirements of subsection  (d).  The
total amount guaranteed pursuant to this subsection shall not exceed $1 billion.
       (2) No guaranty  shall  be made under this subsection—
          "(A)  Unless the Administrator finds that without such guaranty,
        in the amount thereof, the carrier would be unable to obtain necessary
        funds, on reasonable terms, for  the purposes for  which the financing
        is sought;
          "(B) If in the  judgment  of the  Administrator the financing in-
        volved is at a rate of  interest  which is unreasonably high;
          "(C) If the terms  of such financing permit full repayment more
        than fifteen years after  the date thereof; or
          "(D)  Unless the Administrator finds that the  prospective earning
        power of the applicant  carrier, together  with  the character  and
        value of the security pledged, if any, furnish reasonable assurance
         of the  applicant's  ability to repay  the financing  within  the  time
        fixed therefor and reasonable protection to the  United States.
  "A  statement  of  the  findings  of  the Administrator  required under  the
provisions of this subsection shall be made  a matter of public record by the
Administrator with  respect to  each  guaranty under the provisions of  this
subsection.
       "(3)  The  Administrator  may  consent  to the modification  of the pro-
    visions  as to  rate of interest, time  of payment of interest or principal,
    security, if any, or other  terms and conditions of any guaranty which it
    shall have entered into pursuant to this subsection, or the  renewal or
    extension of any such guaranty, whenever the Administrator  shall de-
    termine  it to be equitable to do  so.
       "(4)  Payments required to be  made as a consequence of any  guaranty
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    Secretary of the Treasury from funds hereby authorized to be appropri-
    ated in such amounts as may be necessary for the purpose of carrying out
    the provisions of this subsection.
      "(5) In the event of any default on  any such guaranteed  financing,
    and payment in accordance with the guaranty by the  United States,
    the Attorney  General shall take  such action  as may  be  appropriate to
    recover the amount of such payments, with  interest, from the defaulting
    carrier, carriers, or other persons liable therefor.
      "(6) The Administrator shall prescribe and collect  a guaranty fee in
    connection with  each guaranty under this subsection. Such fees shall
    not exceed such amounts as the Administrator estimates to be necessary
    to cover the administrative costs of carrying out the  provisions of this
    subsection.  Sums  realized from such fees shall  be  deposited in  the
    Treasury as miscellaneous receipts.
  "(g)  The  Civil Aeronautics Board shall not reject any  increase  in rates,
fares, or charges filed by an  air carrier pursuant to section 403 of this Act
if such  carrier files with the tariff showing such increase adequate proof that
such increase is due to costs of complying with subsection (d)  of this section.
Such  cost  shall include  both the cost of retrofitting aircraft with  sound re-
duction devices  and the early retirement of  aircraft due  to implementation
of the standards imposed by this Act.
      "(h)  (1) The Administrator is  authorized  to make grants  to  State
    and local  agencies, subject to such terms  and conditions as he  may
    determine appropriate for the purposes of this section,  to assist in paying
    the cost of administering airport noise monitoring programs.
      "(2) Not more than  15 percentum of the funds appropriated pursuant
    to this section in any fiscal year may be granted to agencies in any one
    State.
      "(3) For the purpose  of this subsection the term 'State'  includes the
    Commonwealth of Puerto Rico,  the Virgin Islands, and Guam.
      "(4) There is authorized to be appropriated not  to  exceed $50 million
    to carry out the provisions of this subsection."

                          SUMMARY OF  SB  1566
             INTRODUCED BY SENATOR CRANSTON OF  CALIFORNIA

    A BILL TO  PROVIDE  FOR  MORE EFFECTIVE CONTROL OF AIRCRAFT NOISE

  Requires that engine  noise on all subsonic transport category aircraft  be
reduced by 10  EPNdB or to the levels of Part 36  of the Federal  Aviation
Regulations,  whichever is greater, by January 1, 1976.
  Requires that aircraft conform to  these lower  noise levels during  actual
operations  at airports.
  Provides funding  of  $35  million for research  and prototype flight testing
to demonstrate  compliance with the  required  noise levels. Any contractor
who sells  retrofit kits  based on such government funded research will  be
required to repay the grant as a percentage of his profits  on kits sold.
  Provides that the Administrator  of the FAA may guarantee loans  made
to an air carrier for the purpose of modifying  airplanes up to  a maximum
of $1 billion.
  Provides that the  Civil Aeronautics Board  shall not reject any reasonable
increase in fares required by an air carrier  to cover the costs of complying
with the noise limits. (Senator Cranston  estimates the required fare increase
to be less than 1.5 percent.)
  Provides Federal grants not to exceed $50 million to assist in paying the
cost to  State and local  agencies of administering airport noise monitoring
programs.
  In Addition, Senator  Cranston  and  the Aerospace Industries Association
estimate that 35,000 people would be  employed in the aerospace industry  as
a direct result of this program. They estimate that these jobs would  generate
still another  105,000  jobs outside the aerospace industry.

                           RESOLUTION NO. 6305

  A resolution of the city council  of the city of Inglewood, Calif., relating
to aircraft noise.
  Whereas, two-thirds of the city  of Inglewood is plagued by  unacceptable
aircraft noise;  and
  Whereas, technology is available to reduce aircraft noise  by 50 percent  (10
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  Whereas, the cost of reducing aircraft noise pollution should by right be
borne by airline passengers and amounts to a required fare increase of less
than 1.5 percent; and
  Whereas, present Federal Aviation Administration Regulations  do not
apply to noise from existing jet aircraft, and in all probability these aircraft
will be in service for another 10 to 15 years; and
  Whereas, existing Federal Aviation Regulations  do not limit  the  noise
which may be created at airports during actual operations;
  Now, Therefore, Be It Resolved, that the  City Council of the City of Ingle-
wood, California, does hereby endorse the legislation introduced by Senator
Cranston requiring retrofitting of  engines  to suppress the noise on present
jet transport aircraft as legislation  which would be of incalculable  benefit to
millions of citizens adversely affected by aircraft noise in the United States.
  Passed,  approved and adopted this  13th  day of April, 1971.
                                              WILLIAM COEDIKE,
                                Mayor of the City of Ingle-wood, Calif.
                                              HELEN RIECK,
                                                          City Clerk

  We can't afford  to stop, because  when we  go  home  we will
have the noise. When we go to sleep we will  have the noise; we will
have it all night, we will have it tomorrow. We just can't stop.
  Here  is  a  letter written to Mr. Ogilvie,  Governor Ogilvie.  I
introduce myself—the letter reads as follows:

                                                       JULY  1,  1971.
HON. RICHARD  B. OGILVIE,
207 State  House,
Springfield, III.
  I  am writing to you as  President of the O'Hare Area Noise Abatement
Council (OANAC), an organization  representing some 31 communities with a
total population of 1.5 million people bordering O'Hare International Airport,
and all dedicated to reduce  the severe noise problem caused by jet aircraft.
Members of OANAC were appointed by the local governing bodies, thru resolu-
tion, vote, and due process. We are a respectable, responsible organization, and
are attempting to accomplish  our  aims  using  the  democratic  process and
through our elected representatives.
  To  that end  we write this letter and respectfully solicit your support.
  Specifically, we of OANAC wish  to establish a meeting with yourself and/
or with whomever you may delegate so that we may sit together in council,
and  develop a  plan  whereby  we  can get some immediate aircraft  noise
relief, which we so desperately desire. As referenced in  my  letter  to the
Illinois Pollution Control Board, I  am inclosing  a  copy of that letter and
request this most valued meeting.  Would  you  kindly arrange and advise,
so that we may look to an  enlightened future.
  Very truly yours,
                                              GEORGE J.  FRANKS,
                                                           President.
                                              R. C.  BLOMBERG,
                                                           Director.
                                              T. DEKA,
                                                           Director.

  I  did  get an answer  to this  very recently—and recently mean-
ing  like yesterday or the day before—and  I have no comment yet,
but he did turn  it over, like we expected,  to  a personable man, a
task force on noise  pollution,  and he will  meet  with us,  so I ex-
plained what we were  going to  do here today and asked him to
put it off until next week.  I will be in  a  better position to give
him  more time. We still can't  stop, we still have the noise, so we
appeal—we appealed, on July 21—and that just went out prior to
my  even knowing about this  meeting, that I wrote to the presi-
dents of Allegheny  Airlines; American  Airlines, Inc.;  Braniff
International; Continental Airlines; Delta  Airlines, Inc.; Eastern
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Inc.; Ozark Airlines, Inc.; Pan American Airways; Trans  World
Airlines,  Inc.; and  United Airlines, I think  12 or 13  basically
listed here, and I think this will sum up the attitude of how the
people out here feel:

                                                         JULY 21, 1971.
  SIR: I am  writing1  as president  of the O'Hare Area  Noise Abatement
Council (OANAC),  an organization  representing  some 31 communities  ad-
jacent to and surrounding O'Hare International Airport, dedicated to combat
the serious severe noise problem created by jet aircraft. Members of OANAC
were  appointed by the  local governing bodies, thru resolution, vote  and due
process. We are a respectable,  responsible organization, and with that attitude
as our guiding principle we are attempting to get  some aircraft noise  relief
immediately.  We say  immediately,  bearing in mind that we believe that
certainly there are long-range programs for future noise suppression, but we
desperately need  an  interim solution.
  But where do we go?
  We  have met  with  the FAA  representatives,  and their  Airport Noise
Abatement Committee, the  Illinois  attorney general and  the  president of
ALPA with Congressman Erlenborn in a  Bensenville meeting. We have gone
to Los Angeles and to Washington, D.C. We have met with our four Congress-
men separately and  then collectively  with the mayors and  presidents of  the
surrounding municipalities.  We have met  with  the Senators of Illinois.  We
have  met with our own State legislators, as well as many  others and many
other meetings.  We  have petitioned to the President of the United States.
We have thousands of  signatures to  prove our need for help.
  But what has it gotten us?
  And now, where do we go?
  To  the answers to these questions we write this letter and respectfully solicit
your  support.
  We have never appealed  to the airline owners  directly, and perhaps  we
have  been  remiss. We  are appealing now. We  firmly believe that some  jet
aircraft noise relief can be realized now, and some areas totally relieved now,
while long-range plans for permanent noise cures  are developed and imple-
mented. To accomplish  this  we need the full  cooperation and understanding
of the airlines themselves.
  It is absolutely unreasonable for anyone to  believe that, knowingly,  the
airlines would sacrifice the' well being of so many people unrelated to  the
industry for the sake of expediency and economics. Business and profits  are
very important to the aircraft industry, everyone fully understands. But what
accomplishment  are these values when they  are taken from others.  What is
left for any family,  after losing the true value of their  lives—peace and
tranquility in their  own home, any  and  all times, day or night,  with no
recourse. Would you not say futility and desperation can only set in. And is
this not a sickness. Are not the Public Relations Departments concerned.
  Specifically, we wish to point out the  low altitude,  dangerous short turns
made by aircraft immediately after takeoff, to get "on course," apparently
for economy.
  The 747  type aircraft is truly an engineering  masterpiece.  Beautiful in
every respect—appearance,  majestic,  quiet, and a real pleasure to watch.
However, the longer  they  fly, the bolder  they  get, until  they have almost
offset the built-in engineering  technological advances. Older types of aircraft
noise  is almost impossible to bear and some types such as the 707 and DC-8
are so noisy they should be retired. All are turning lower and lower, appar-
ently depending  on their destination, under full power making life for people
in these areas unbearable. We are not relating to  a  few people rather,  we
are relating to hundreds of thousands. Although not the product, the residents
on the ground should get the same considerate attention.
  Understanding noise  is not  enough to properly put it in perspective. One
must  experience the aggravation and pain of noise to realize the plight of
the resident citizen. We, of  OANAC, humbly submit that the airline owners
or principals have never been subjected  to  this constant,  rhythmatic  noise
condition.
  The executive  committee  of the O'Hare Area  Noise Abatement  Council
respectfully extend an invitation to  yourselves  and to any  committee you
may choose to meet with us, to listen to, and to  experience the noise problem
directly with  us  as  outlined  above. Then we can all converse on  common
ground, and we can better get some help through experience—not just under-
standing. We have some suggestions we wish to propose.
  We further commit ourselves to meet with your representatives along with
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subject, either in single conferences or in a group conference. Should it be
your desire,  we can arrange to have the mayors and presidents represent
their respective municipalities. We are  sincere, and solicit  your  complete
cooperation and subsequent support.
  We are in no position to judge the mood of the aircraft industry regarding
Senator Alan Cranston's bill to retrofit all existing jet aircraft engines with
noise suppression devices, but we will energetically solicit their support for
the bill.  With the full  weight of the aircraft industry behind this bill and
the powerful  influence they have on the Congress, passage of this bill  can be
assured.  Senator Alan Cranston in  his  presentation of the bill said, "Under
FAA noise standards,  my bill would improve noise  conditions from unac-
ceptable to acceptable for 340,000 people in Chicago." The O'Hare Area Noise
Abatement Council wishes to discuss a  program to relieve this vast number
of citizens so adversely affected by jet aircraft noise.
  It is our intention to  review with your committee the standard takeoff
profile agreed  upon by FAA, ALPA, and ATA  in 1968,  resulting from
experimental noise abatement tests conducted at Wallops  Island, Va. in 1967
by NASA using various airline aircraft. This procedure would  offer some
measure of noise relief, and every  effort should be made to  implement the
plan throughout.
  The O'Hare Area  Noise Abatement Council also wishes to  discuss  among
other things, methods  to help residents hopelessly buried  in jet aircraft
noise in Fairview Heights, Schiller Park,  due to the use of runway 9R.
  Money  is no problem. We buy our pleasures. How do we buy peace and
quiet?
  May we look forward to a very early  favorable reply, at which time we
can arrange the details for a fruitful meeting.
  Very truly yours,
                                          GEORGE J.  FRANKS,
                                     President, Executive Committee.
                                          RICHARD C. BLOMBERG,
                             Leyden Township, III.—OANAC Director.
                                          TERRENCE DEKA,
                                   Wood Dale, III.—OANAC Director.
                                          ALBERT H. CASTLE,
                                         Des Plaines, III.—OANAC.
                                          GERALD T. ROHRER,
                                          Park Ridge, III.—OANAC.

   I  would  like to interject by saying that we  dp  listen to  the
experts; we do listen to the physicists and the design developers;
we are  talking 3 to 5 years.  Senator Alan Cranston is  talking
about the retrofit  program finishing by 1976. We heartily  endorse
his program, but what do we do in the meantime ? There is tomor-
row, there  is today, there is tonight,  next week, and this  is what
our request is,  something should be  done,  and our appeal  is di-
rected to the airlines because we really think they don't know.
   When we look at these low turns—which I will clear up a little
later—when  they are hardly airborne, and they  make  a  turn, I
don't know, it was said on  the panel, or one of the  witnesses,  it
was either  today  or yesterday—I was here both days—they said
that the low turn  is to relieve noise. Well, they are only spreading
the noise. You just have so much noise to spread, and they spread
it where they think it's the best.  If they hammer one village  all
the time they are going to have a riot, but if they give everyone
a little bit,  by the time it comes back, it's cooled off. Now, it hap-
pened so often that the interims have gotten closer together.  It's
like the dripping  water and the Chinese torture, and every  plane
now is worse  than it ever was,  because  our thinking  has been
different.
   I have tried to illustrate to you  gentlemen every avenue that
we have experimented with.
   Dr. MEYER. Have you had any answers to that  letter yet?
   Mr. FRANKS. The July 21 letter?  I  have not.

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  Dr. MEYER. It's a bit early.
  Mr. FRANKS. Now, I would  ask—I would ask you people what
do we, as representatives in our own way—and since we are not
paid, we probably take a bigger beating, I am not sure, but they
call us hopeless—hopefully they  have  someone to turn to—Mr.
Franks, do you know this? Do you know that? Yes. I  am  going
crazy, and  if I don't hurry up and get  something  done for my
own good, I am going to go out of business because I haven't got
that much time to handle that, really.
  When  we talk to the Federal Aviation Administration, which
we did, and I have another letter which I will not go into, but we
made  our full circle. We started with  the Federal Aviation Ad-
ministration, and got nowhere, and tried  all these other tangents,
and every letter—for example, the letter to the President, and all
the people  that were on  the mailing list, I think this  is a very
important part of the testimony,  it  was sent to the Honorable
John M.  Mitchell, Melvin Laird, and I guess without disrespect, I
will leave the titles out, Senator  Percy, Senator Smith at that
time;  Governor Ogilvie; Mr.  Scott,  the Attorney General; the
Congressmen Collier, Crane, Erlenborn, and Pucinski, along with
the letter to the President of the United  States.
  All of these men, in the answers—they did answer, the congress-
men were terrific, and we are very grateful for that, because they
got us up to this point.  I think  they  kept us alive, but all the
letters were referred to the FA A, and I just rather drop it there,
because  I might get sarcastic and have to  explain some  wild
remarks.
  Nothing  has  happened.  The greatest thing that has  happened
to our group, as we see it now, is this hearing. May we look for-
ward  to  some results, good results, before I don't know what is
going to happen now. We don't want to  move out of our homes.
I think we made that clear. We liked it there.  We picked it there.
We will  not move, and who is private  enterprise to walk in and
say, "Get out, we are taking it."
  We are just not going to do it, and I  would like  to  make one
parting statement, that if they doubt that we  are united, that we
are together, when  we have our next meeting we will tell them
they will probably be on the runway, but we will run out the due
process  right to the ground before our patience runs out. Thank
you very much.
  Dr. MEYER. I appreciate it. Would you mind waiting  a minute,
in case the panel has a question?  Also I know from our agenda
that we  have some people who  have  traveled long distances  to
come  here.  This is'a national meeting, not a Chicago meeting.
Some  of these people may have trains to catch  and get back-—
trains  or planes or buses or  cars—see, I am  thinking ahead,
friends. You talk about mass transit. I am thinking about not only
airplanes, but urban mass transit and intercity transit systems
for the present and the future.
  I understand that Alderman Singer was going to  make a com-
ment. After that I think I better see if I can find the people who
are from such places as Minneapolis and take care  of  them, be-
cause  I don't think the citizens of Chicago,  who are  still  here,
would feel  we were being necessarily hospitable if I didn't take
that factor  into account. But I would like to ask the panel, though,
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forthright statement, that some of  my colleagues may want to
ask you a question or two, sir, if you don't mind.
  Professor PLACER.  I xvould like to ask a question. Mr. Franks,
it is a pleasure to have you before us, and to hear your statement.
I have assessed from what you have said that this is  a kind of a
grass roots citizens' expression of concern—the kind of expres-
sion of concern I think that may really begin to indicate the need
for some real action  and real changes.  Let's explore  that just a
moment with you. Is your group largely a group of homeowners?
Is that a fair statement, people living in the area?
  Mr.  FRANKS. They are.
  Professor PLACER. They are?
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes; they are only in the area.
  Professor PLACER. Only in the area?
  Mr.  FRANKS. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Recognizing that kind of citizens group such
as  yours, obviously has to have a corps  of active people. Roughly
how many people would you say, or  how many homeowners, how
large a group do you think you can  honestly speak for, that  you
are representing?
  Mr. FRANKS. I think I am speaking for 19 municipalities  legiti-
mately, speaking for them; nine members are on my executive
committee, of which seven are very active.
  Professor PLACER. Now, are you—when  you say that, I take it
you are not speaking so much for the Government as you are for
the people who are living in those municipalities,	
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. Is that correct?
  Mr. FRANKS. For the people,  as long  as  I represent them with
a little show of dignity, perhaps mixed with anger, the govern-
ments will continue to approve my doing it.
  Professor PLACER.  That mixture can be very useful.
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes.
  Professor PLACER.  I sense that people are angry, and perhaps
properly so.
  May I ask what your business is, Mr. Franks?
  Mr.  FRANKS. I am in  the manufacturing business. I will, no
doubt,  be hit by this  ordinance—well, I am not in Chicago. I am
in Cook County, but if it goes Cook Countywide, I will  be attacked
for noise in my own plant, and I can't do  anything with the man
who is keeping me awake day and night.
  Professor PLACER. But you are willing to do your share as long
as  something is done about those who apparently  aren't; is that
what you are saying?
  Mr.  FRANKS. I will do my share without any law,  now that I
understand—and I  have, for  awhile,  I  have automatic  screw
machines. We  turn steel from  the  bar.  It's  about the noisiest
stage you can get running full speed—law or  otherwise, I  would
do it out of my good nature.
  Professor PLACER.  All right. Now, there are a lot of questions
I would like to  ask you, but I know  we  have to move on. Let me
put one final question to you:  I sense from your  statement  and
your experience that you haven't really had a very satisfactory
experience in  dealing with the various agencies, both of local,
State and Federal government with all of  this. I know our  chair-
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fully the EPA will be able to come to grips with this problem
—although, of course, there are a number of other agencies that
are intimately involved. Let me ask you a hypothetical problem:
If we fail, if we cannot solve the problem expeditiously and effec-
tively, what then?
  Mr. FRANKS. Immediately upon you saying that, I got a terrible
sinking feeling—I am going to tell you, if you  feel we are not
going to be too responsible, where do you go now?
  Now, how hard would you fight for your home? Did you serve
in any of the wars? Whose home  are you fighting for? Then you
let private enterprise come  in and take it out from under your
nose.
  Now, if I lost my home on account of payments and, you know,
these people are working hard, a lot of these people who live in
this  affluent suburbia can't afford  it,  this country  is the only
country in the world where people can afford to live beyond their
means, you know that, so they got two  jobs, they got a part-time
job,  two jobs and a part-time job, and  I just gave my men in my
plant, I got three corporations, and I gave them a choice—work
10 hours a day, get your 40 hours a week and take a part-time job
on the side.  They are grateful  no end. I mean, what is so difficult
about that?
  If we say that the aircraft are bothering us to that extent, what
is so difficult about coming out and seeing what  is bothering us?
Why do they  make these  short turns? I really would make one
of the demands of this group  here to say that the airlines have
a noise standard to meet, get your experts out of the homes, out
at the homes and meet them.
  Professor PLACER. In other words	
  Mr. FRANKS. Don't expect us to come up with the answers. We
are citizens. We don't know, and experts disagree  and  argue. They
have the answers. They have got them someplace, just open the
drawer and get those  experts out. It  should  come  out of this
group, I think, to say, "Here are  the noise standards of the air-
ports ; meet them or else."
  Professor PLACER. In other words, we can't afford to fail, can
we?
  Mr. FRANKS. You can't  what?
  Professor PLACER. We can't afford to fail, can we?
  Mr. FRANKS. No, no. Really you can't. Don't put that burden on
us. We are trying to be nice people. We have been patient  for 2
years, and you know the American characteristic  is the same; we
are big dummies. You travel abroad—in Mexico I asked a citizen
out there, "What do you think of the Americans?" He said, "They
are big goofs,  big goofs, but don't get them mad."
  Now, see if  that isn't our way. We sit at conference tables for
years, but when our temper changes—the bombs. There is no in
between, and I guess we are typical Americans. We are probably
the greatest cross section  of American citizens you  will find in
this  country.
  We have—this is well-to-do suburbia; they are paying  their
taxes; they are law abiding citizens; they are towing the  mark.
Now, what more can you ask of them ? All we are asking is  leave
us alone—no higher pay, no better schools, no more schools,  no
more roads, no discrimination, no ADC aid. They are asking for
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  Professor PLACER. Thank you, Mr. Franks.
  Mr. FRANKS. Thanks.
  Mr. HlNTON. Mr. Chairman, may  I ask  just two very quick
questions ?
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, indeed. We are going to have to push ahead,
though, or we are not going to hear all the people entitled to have
their say. But I am determined that everyone who wants to speak
has an opportunity to do so.
  Mr. HlNTON.  Mr. Franks, "yes," or "no," do you know whether
or not procedures, noise abatement procedures are  in  effect  at
O'Hare? "Yes"  or "no"?
  Mr. FRANKS.  Effective noise procedures, no.
  Mr. HINTON.  OK. Do you know—you said that certain airlines
responded to your letters to the chief officers of the companies,
you said, and you specified some cooperated. Now	
  Mr. FRANKS.  No; I am asking for their cooperation. I have had
no response. I  am asking for the  cooperation.  I  want them  to
cooperate and meet with us and talk with us. No  answer yet.  It
was dated the 21st.
  Mr. HINTON.  Thank you very much.
  Dr. MEYER. Professor Kerrebrock.
  Professor KERREBROCK. Mr. Franks, we are in a very formative
stage in  the  reduction of aircraft noise. You  probably under-
stand this.
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes.
  Professor KERREBROCK. That we have  gone in the last 2 or 3
years from essentially a minimum of regulation to now a  stage
where the Government is beginning to think very seriously about
this, and I  think it's extremely important that in  this formative
stage we collect information from people such as you, who have
the real experience as to what is acceptable.  Now, you made a
statement that  you would like to see the noise  exposure limited
to that which would be, which would result from 100 nights  an
hour, or per pre  East-West runway. Do you think if the  noise
exposure could  be rolled back to that level that the population
around O'Hare  would be willing to wait for improvements in the
future, or would there be almost as much concern as there is now?
  Mr. FRANKS. I  would have to use my judgment on that and I
would say that we may show a little patience—something is being
done right  now, we are getting, may I say, lip service. We are
just tired of going from meeting to meeting, and after each meet-
ing there is a 6-month delay.
  Professor KERREBROCK. You want to see progress.
  Mr. FRANKS. I  want to see progress, but  they are just buying
time that we haven't got to give.
  Professor KERREBROCK. What about leveling off at the present
level of exposure?
  Mr. FRANKS. That is totally unacceptable.
  Professor KERREBROCK. That is too high?
  Mr. FRANKS. Totally. There are  too many people involved.  In
the articles I submitted I showed  you a letter, the suburbs  of
Franklin Park-Schiller Park-Stone Park, we sincerely believe that
a close study of flight patterns, and perhaps, I am not even saying
"perhaps," but we don't have that time, money or the expertise
to look into it, but we think they can get these flights off in a more
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  We have open areas they can use, 27L to give you one example,
they get airborne,  turn  left real quickly,  and  Bensenville and
Wood Dale gets swamped, and our little town gets swamped with
noise.
  Now, if  they  travel straight out they would get into  Itasca,
but if you calculate the footage and the height, the rate of climb
by using this experiment at Wallops Island, they will  be at an
altitude where noise would be acceptable, and I would also say
that noise to our punished and painful ears will not be as loud
to some at  75 or 80 decibels as it is, because we are accustomed,
on my very patio, and I had the note, but I skipped over it, I had
five officials from the Federal Aviation Administration—which  I
can verify—substantiate, and one of them was the electronics en-
gineer with their sound  equipment. This is a back  patio of my
home, and you have got to see my home to appreciate what I am
talking about—it's a beautiful, wooded area	
  Professor KERREBROCK. Yes, I understand your problem	
  Mr. FRANKS. One hundred seventeen decibels there—it was  a
reading of  117 decibels. That means 1 foot apart you cannot hear
a conversation	
  Professor KERREBROCK. I would like to	
  Mr. FRANKS. Mouth-to-mouth conversation.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I would like to suggest, if I may	
  Mr. FRANKS. Yes.
  Professor KERREBROCK. That it would  be very  helpful  if you
would attempt to gather this information and convey it  to this
panel as to at what date in the  development of O'Hare Airport
the noise level became truly unacceptable.
  Dr. MEYER. That would be very useful.
  Mr. FRANKS. All right.
  Dr. MEYER.  At what date	
  Professor KERREBROCK. Could you do that?
  Dr. MEYER. Did your  group really  feel that  it really  had to
begin? I think this  would be most useful to us. I am not  saying
that is the point you necessarily would cut back, but it gives you
some technical data as to group  reactions; that  would help us  a
great deal,  it really  would, sir.
  Mr. FRANKS. We will be happy to do that. I would like to leave
you  with  one parting shot; please  give  us  something  in the
interim	
  Dr. MEYER.  We will try.
  Mr. FRANKS. Because every day is too long.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you.
  Mr. FRANKS. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much,  sir.  Is Alderman  Singer
here?
  Alderman SINGER. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Alderman, nice to have you. Welcome to this group.
  Alderman SINGER. Thank you very much.

STATEMENT OF WILLIAM SINGER, ALDERMAN, CITY OF CHICAGO
  Alderman SINGER. Mr.  Chairman, before I begin my presenta-
tion, I just  want to say that I will try to be brief and confine my
remarks to two specific areas, where I think that a  local  official
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  Dr. MEYER. Very good, sir.
  Alderman SINGER. Mr. Chairman and members of the panel, I
appreciate  this opportunity to testify before  you today.  I am
pleased that your Agency is conducting these hearings through-
out the country in order to determine the extent of support for
noise abatement procedures, the practicability of such procedures,
and most importantly, the necessity for such procedures.
  I am not an expert, either in the medical or technical aspect of
noise control, but as a locally  elected official I have devoted con-
siderable time to  understanding  the  problems of noise pollution.
I would like to briefly  discuss some  local concerns which clearly
have a relationship to the Federal Government.
  As you know, Chicago has recently passed a new  and, I think
quite strong noise ordinance.
  I am a member of the committee of Environmental Control of
the city of Chicago; it was passed  after extensive studies  and
hearings, and for the most part  is a major step forward toward
reducing noise  levels in Chicago. Nevertheless,  there are unregu-
lated sources of noise  that remain,  the  two most important of
which are noise from rail and noise from  air sources.
  The Chicago Transit Authority indicated that they could not
comply with noise abatement  requirements and, therefore, were
exempted from the city's recently passed ordinance.
  While I recognize that there is an enormous  expense in equip-
ping old mass transit vehicles, and even new vehicles in a way so
as to reduce the noise  emanating therefrom, the absence of  any
program—I stress that, the absence of any program now, or in
the future,  to cope with this problem is more disturbing than the
authority's request  to be excluded from  coverage  of the present
ordinance.
  I am  encouraged that Mr. Cafferty, the new chairman of the
CTA has indicated  a desire to study this problem. I would sug-
gest, however,  that there is a clear  Federal role with respect to
noise abatement for federally financed mass transit facilities.
  Specifically I would suggest that in the future all mass transit
funding be contingent, first upon a  comprehensive plan of the
receiving authority for  noise abatement.  This plan must take
into account both existing equipment and future equipment.
  Perhaps funding  of new equipment should  be limited to equip-
ment which would meet federally imposed standards; should there
be a determination that its use in urban  areas would, as a  result
of the sound  emanating therefrom, have an  adverse  environ-
mental impact—in any event, the environmental impact statement
from proper Federal officials should also be a condition precedent
to Federal funding.
  I want to stress that these last points relative to Federal fund-
ing of mass transit are suggestions  for you and the Congress to
consider. I put them forth in  the hope that they will spur a re-
quirement  and an incentive for planning by local mass transit
authorities.
  The other problem where there is a clear  Federal role relates
to the noise from aircraft. We have already devoted a considerable
amount of time to that.
  The city refused to limit the hours of takeoffs and landings at
O'Hare  International Airport—now, I parenthetically  would say
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rejected; Congressman Pucinski, who has been involved in  this
problem  for  a  long time also suggested that they not agree to
limiting  landings  and takeoffs—a  suggestion  with which  I do
not agree, obviously.
  Chicago newspapers have carried reports in  the last few days
for recommendations  ranging from clearance  to  compensation
payments for staying in areas near airports. While I do not pro-
fess to have the  long-range  answer to this problem, short of
locating new airports a sufficient distance away from  residential
areas, some forms of traffic regulation, even as an interim measure
—and I would add parenthetically that even if all of Congressman
Pucinski's suggestions were adopted by the Congress  tomorrow,
even he said  5 years would be the earliest possible time for total
compliance,  so  even  as  an interim measure,  traffic  regulation
would seem desirable to protect those people whose residences are
in flight paths of our major airports.
  This could involve limiting the  hours, or reducing the traffic
loads at certain hours, or restricting the use of certain runways
as a condition to continued Federal funding of airport facilities,
and just  as in the case of funding mass transit facilities, you do
fund,  and the city council approves the receipt of  grants from
the Federal  Government for such  things  as  runways,  control
towers, et cetera.
  I would again  suggest the requirement  of  an  environmental
impact statement from the Federal  officials, and also the require-
ment that at the local level there be a plan for noise  abatement
relative to surrounding areas.
  Therefore I have really suggested in both of these,  mass transit
and airport, two specific  areas for your consideration:  One is the
requirement at  the local level that there be a comprehensive plan,
and the other is the requirement at the Federal level that there
be an environmental impact analysis. I don't think that this is too
harsh a measure to impose  on the local authorities.
  You  may  ask whether this is the carrot or the  stick, and I
would say it's something of both. I think there has to be somewhat
of a stick over  the heads of local government because  it receives
this great amount  of money from Federal sources.
  While,  of course, there are other problems in the noise pollution
field, many of these are local in nature, and I appreciate the op-
portunity to  come in and  comment  on these two areas  where I
feel there is  the necessity  of action at the national  level. Thank
you, Mr.  Chairman.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr.  Alderman, as a municipal  official, I am im-
pressed with  your grasp of the relationship between the State and
its political subdivisions and the political  subdivisions with the
Federal Government; and you have called our  attention, rightly,
to a need for greater use, or greater attention in  the environ-
mental impact statement process to some of these  problems. The
Environmental  Protection Agency, and my portion  of it,  as well
as other portions,  are deeply involved in this now, as you know.
  You  raise the thought that by definition, perhaps, some of the
grants  and so  on of the  other agencies, such as  airports  and
municipal transit authorities, will require even greater considera-
tion in this area. And I have made  a special note of  this; we are
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  The purpose of these hearings is to get new suggestions, and
we appreciate that very much.
  Alderman SINGER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel.
  Mr. HINTON. Alderman Singer, where is the 43d Ward?
  Alderman SINGER. The 43d Ward is roughly 10 blocks north of
here, 20 blocks north of here running up the lake front to ap-
proximately 3000 North, and running west about 1800 West.
  Mr. HINTON. You made  several  statements about—I thought
very responsible statements  about  the aircraft proportion of the
noise problem that  you have, and  yet  you are quite away  from
the airport, so your problem is  nowhere near as close.
  Alderman SINGER. Well, let me explain why, as  in the case of
Mr. Franks, there was, about 6 to 8 months  ago, an incident of
noise from airplanes coming in  at relatively low levels, and again
the explanation we received through Congressman Yates, through
his office,  as in the case of Mr. Franks, was that  it was due to
the construction of runways.
  I got involved in  the whole question of aircraft noise, and felt
if it was this bad in our area, it must be worse in  other parts of
the city, and I am  a member of the  city council obviously con-
cerned about the entire city.
  Mr. HINTON. Well, Alderman Singer, do you know of any steps
that have  been taken at O'Hare that effectively reduce the  noise
exposure on the community?
  Alderman SINGER. The only—there is only one  that has been
taken, and that is limiting  the revving up of engines while on
the ground.
  Let me  point this out, which I  think is  something you know
why we have to discuss this between Federal and  local agencies,
there  was a great deal of testimony by the city officials saying
that the city could not control  either the  runway  times, the
amount of landings and takeoffs,  or the use of any particular
runway, or even shut down the airport entirely—even though we
operate it.
  I would tend to disagree,  at  least on the last opinion that we
could  have some authority over this, but there was the question
of Federal preemption. The city, therefore, chose  not to act in
any of these areas, perhaps because of preemption  problems, per-
haps because of others, and  therefore, I think it's appropriate to
bring this  before your body as the place to  also  consider  these
kinds of controls, but to my knowledge the  only one the city has
taken, or the airport authority has taken is to prohibit the revving
up of engines while on  the ground.
  Mr. HINTON. Alderman Singer, one more question.
  I notice you call  for the requirement of the local noise abate-
ment plan as a condition for receipt of funds for  airport devel-
opment.
  Now, do you have any suggestions—would you think it would
be appropriate for  the city itself to initiate such a program, as
the proprietor of O'Hare Airport, and, for example, the establish-
ment of a noise abatement officer,  and that sort of thing?
  Alderman SINGER. Yes; I think it would be entirely appropriate
for the city to do so. What I have suggested to you gentlemen  is
that the carrot of Federal funds may be an incentive to create
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held, or may not be coming in the amounts that they would like,
but this office might help them. I think, yes, the answer would be
it would be our responsibility to do so.
  Mr. HINTON. I would like to see that happen.
  Professor PLACER. Alderman Singer, let's assume  just for the
moment that it can be shown there are—that it could be shown
there are certain operational  practices that are within the realm
of the management of  O'Hare,  the  airport  proprietor, which
would have a significant  impact on noise from its  airport opera-
tion ; would you be in favor of the city doing its maximum, or the
airport  proprietor—be it the city or otherwise—doing  what it
possibly could in terms of operational activities and procedures to
minimize noise?
  Alderman SINGER. Making the assumption that the city of Chi-
cago, and through its control of O'Hare Airport, has the authority
to, let's say, close the airport certain hours, or  do other things.
  Professor PLACER. Take other operational steps, yes, sir.
  Alderman SINGER. Yes, I think to the extent we  would have to
have a greater study of the economic impact,  as well as the en-
vironmental impact, but I would say yes, in  certain instances, as
a general principle, I would be in favor of the city exercising that
authority, if it could, if it was necessary, and I think the demon-
stration is  that it is necessary to improve the environment for
those people  living around O'Hare. Now, which ones and  how
stringent you get I think depends on  the economic consequences
of such things.
  Congressman Pucinski, for example, told us that the amount of
freight which comes in  at night would be severely restricted if you
try to confine it to the daytime hours, and he couldn't have O'Hare
be the center of commerce, commercial aircraft transportation,
not passenger, but freight  aircraft, so I think there are certain
conditions that we would want to—maybe  we would only restrict
certain runways at night as a compromise, but again I would be
in favor of exercising that kind of authority.
  Dr. MEYER. Go ahead.
  Professor PLACER. Certainly at least the  examination by the
airport proprietor.
  Alderman SINGER. What disturbs me more than anything is the
absence of any, at  least apparent desire, maybe something covert
I don't know about, but any  apparent desire,  in actual planning
for this kind  of eventuality, for this kind of program, there is no
program.
  Professor PLACER. In the absence of an apparent desire on the
part of airport proprietors generally—and you need  not limit us
to O'Hare—would you be  in favor of  either Federal or  State
governments  requiring  airport proprietors  to examine  these
issues?
  Alderman SINGER.  Yes. I think that would be encompassed in
the suggestion I have  made, that as  a condition  precedent for
Federal funding, that some sort of program analysis be  adopted
by the local authority.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Mr. MARTIN. Alderman Singer, you  indicated that you were in-
volved in—I am going to  digress from  aircraft  and go back to the
surface  vehicles, that you were involved in the establishment of
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  Alderman SINGER. Well, I am a member of the committee which
passed it.
  Mr. MARTIN. All right. Some testimony yesterday by the manu-
facturers indicated that  because of certain technological  things
that haven't arrived yet, some of these future  levels probably will
be very difficult to attain, if attainable.
  What would happen if these levels were not attained; at  that
point is it the intent to restrict the use, those vehicles from being
used in the city of Chicago? The levels of penalty here  are very
low, and in all probability it's not going to deter people unless
you eliminate the vehicle.
  Alderman SINGER. Well, I am  not fully cognizant of all of the
technological steps that must be  taken, whether they can or  can-
not be met.
  As a matter of law, and as a legislator, I would like to suggest
that it was  the right course to establish  a stiff standard early,
and make every  possible attempt  without conceding at all the
inability to  meet that standard, make every  possible attempt—
every possible  attempt to seek compliance.
  I think legislators and  others are reasonable people, and if you
established a strict standard, and if that  standard is a good base
attempt to  meet that standard, and simply proves  impossible, I
am not talking about difficult, I am saying impossible, without
severe, almost impossible economic consequences and the like,  if
that is the case I am sure we would be reasonable enough to make
extensions  or  other  things,  but  I  don't  want to suggest for a
moment that we are going to change our law today on the basis
of what someone  says is  impossible for the next 4 years. I would
suggest that in 4  years from now if we can determine that every-
thing humanly possible was done, and they need another 6 months,
of course, but that is the issue before  us, and  we passed our
ordinance, it was  to develop the stiffest possible requirements  that
seemed feasible at the time, and to date I have not seen  any kind
of evidence  which says that given the time periods we  have es-
tablished, they cannot meet all  the  requirements.
  Dr. MEYER. Alderman Singer, that last statement  of yours was
a very useful exposition  on  legislative philosophy, which will be
duly noted. We have some of those same problems at the Federal
level	
  Alderman SINGER. I am sure you do.
  Dr. MEYER.  As some  people are aware. We appreciate your
testimony very much.
  Alderman SINGER. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER.  Might I inquire if Mr. Fred N. Tabak, supervisor
of the 18th district, Milwaukee County, is here?
  Mr. TABAK.  Yes, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. It's a pleasure to welcome you here, sir. I am  glad
to have another  elected official with us.
  Mr. TABAK.  It's a pleasure to be  here.

    STATEMENT OF FRED N. TABAK,  MILWAUKEE  COUNTY
                        SUPERVISOR
  Mr.  TABAK. For today's  American  urban  dweller, "natural"
sounds are  almost as rare as the American bald eagle. Of all the
sounds that incessantly assault our ears, few emanate from natural
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bird, roll of thunder, or person chomping popcorn in front of you
at the theater. For the inner city or ghetto dweller, natural noise
is even rarer.
  Although unnatural or human-produced noises are too numerous
to cite, one source of excessive noise stands out as the most prev-
alent and most irritating for the urban dweller:  vehicular  sur-
face traffic.
  Presently, we have  over  90 million vehicles on the roads of
America, with 2.8 million being added each year, a growth  rate
three times  greater than the national  population increase.
  Not only  are each of these vehicles potential air polluters, but
each increases the ambient (background) noise level of the urban
dweller. Urban ambient noise now ranges from a 40-decibel low
of early morning to an 80-decibel high during the noisiest time of
day. The increased  ambient noise level can be traced directly to
increased traffic movements  during peak periods of the day.
  Milwaukee, like most large urban population areas,  has the
curse  of concrete corridors  of noise carriers,  known as  express-
ways, slicing in crisscross  patterns throughout the city. Every
urban area, like Milwaukee, is subject to  a daily tide-like move-
ment  of automobiles, entering the high-density  work areas to-
gether in the mornings, leaving for  the  low-density residential
areas together in the evenings. It is hard to point out any urban
expressway,  including Milwaukee's proclaimed modern system,
that is not congested at peak load times.
  The  number of vehicles is  growing at  a rate faster than the
roadway network—traffic  congestion cannot help but become  pro-
gessively worse.  Milwaukee  has a peculiar aberration in  that the
city is absent of an alternative transportation system, with the
exception  of an antiquated privately-owned,  noisy, diesel fume
belching bus system.
  Unlike most cities,  where  a  person who  says  he  drives an
automobile into the downtown area is given a questionable  look,
Milwaukeeans have been conditioned to do quite the opposite. The
Milwaukeean who does not  drive into the downtown area is the
exception  and not  the norm. What  has  been the response of
transportation planners  in  my  area  to the  increased influx of
vehicle noise polluters? An  alternative noiseless underground or
monorail system? Of course not.  According  to their reasoning,
since vehicular traffic is increasing, the best recourse is  to build
more expressways. And so they are. Presently under construction,
and with great opposition,  is  another concrete monstrosity  that
will transverse directly through one of Milwaukee's most beauti-
ful, and I might  add most quiet, lakefront  parks.
  Not  only  is the construction of expressways uprooting great
numbers of  people, but it adds new sources of  ambient noise over
and above the normal ambient sound  level. Perhaps the  families
that are uprooted and moved are more fortunate  than those  who
remain and must contend with the vehicle roar of the adjacent
expressway.
  Three  things  will  probably  result to  the  homeowner  with
property adjacent to the expressway:  First, there will be an im-
mediate decrease in property  value; second, the  noise level  will
probably increase  to  irritating  or intolerable  levels;  third, the
property owner must spend money to acoustically shield his home,
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  A case in point in the Milwaukee area is a family who owns
property adjacent and only 40 feet from the nation's fifth heaviest
traveled truck  interchange, on the interstate system. The noise
level had become so  intolerable that the family turned to Mil-
waukee County for a solution. County highway officials took sound
readings at the property and found a high average of 86 decibels,
a level high enough to irritate and annoy. Inside the home, with
the windows closed, the noise level reached 54 decibels,  about the
equivalent of an air  conditioner constantly operating. Because of
existing lack of precedence, Milwaukee County could not purchase
the property, and offered only recognition and sympathy to the
noise problem, hardly a solution.
  Realistically, expressways and vehicles that travel on them, and
the noise that  emanates from the vehicles will not be entirely
eliminated. And,  all  the homes that are too close to existing ex-
pressways,   through   poor  planning,  cannot  be purchased  and
removed.
  The  obvious and most immediate area to attack is the source of
noise, and that of the vehicle itself. Vehicle manufacturers have
vigorously been working on solutions to air pollution, with some
success, and have likewise attacked the noise problem. But, whom
have they aimed  noise reduction research towards? Not the per-
son who lives adjacent to the roadway, but instead, at the driver
and passengers of the vehicle.
  Ford Motor Co. has proclaimed  its autos as the quietest in the
field. Quietest for whom, the driver, or the pedestrian who hears
the roar of the engine without the soundproofing interior of the
auto?  The  Ford  Motor Co. has,  according to  recent figures, a
noise vibration-harshness  research team, whose job  it is to cope
with some  15,000 sound-producing components  of a car. I ques-
tion whether they are aiming their research at the noise recipients
outside the vehicle.
  General Motors alone has approximately  100 men  assigned to
its  acoustic research team, which was until recently headed by
David  Apps, an international authority on automotive noise con-
trol. But, again,  the quest seems to be to eliminate some of the
sounds, insulate others,  and convert the stubborn ones into pleas-
ing sounds for  the passenger. I repeat, where does that leave the
noise recipients outside  the vehicle?
  Vehicle horns are yet another problem. The Chrysler Corp., for
example, specifies an ear-shattering sound limit of  at  least 125
decibels measured 4  inches from the  horn. I believe  it is  also
Chrysler Corp. that has developed the  highly gimmicky and com-
mercial, and equally irritating beep beep of its Roadrunner model.
  The  problem of vehicular noise is not unsolvable for the urban
dweller, if the problem  is recognized by Federal, State, and local
governments, in  addition to the corporate manufacturers of the
noise-producing vehicles.
  Presently, one  of the  major problems confronting local govern-
ment in attacking and  legislating against excessive noise  is the
unclear and conflicting laws governing noise pollution on the State
and Federal levels.
  Hopefully, through conferences  such as we are holding today,
government on  the Federal level will be able to offer clear guidance
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Government offers the best potential in approaching vehicle manu-
facturers on noise pollution problems, as it did with air pollution.
  On the State and local level, conflicting laws on noise pollution
must be eliminated and a coherent policy formulated. For example,
the State statutes of Wisconsin allow prosecution for excessive
vehicle noise only if it is linked with the muffler, and smoke emis-
sion is evident.  As a result, only 17 prosecutions  in  Milwaukee
County were made under the law in the past year.  Obviously,
forceful and updated  laws are needed for vigorous prosecution of
noise polluters.
  If, in fact, expressways continue to expand as they currently
are, steps must be taken to alleviate the ambient roar that dissi-
pates to surrounding dwellings. This can be accomplished through
improved design and  location of the roadways. Solutions include
depressed road construction, the use of banking barriers or cover-
ing the surface with plastic materials that absorb tire noise. Im-
mediate solutions, such as  flanking barriers, need not be expensive
or complicated.  The simple planting of dense rows  of trees or
shrubs can reduce noise by about one decibel for every 4 feet of
thickness, as  well as cut off direct view of traffic and reduce the
glare from automobile lights at night.
  For the individual who  lives adjacent to expressways and who
is caught in  the vise of  excessive roadway noise  through poor
planning, there  should  be amenity grants.  A precedent  has  al-
ready been set in this  area where, in Britain, people who have
been made to suffer  from excessive  noise,  through no fault of
their own, are government subsidized with half the  cost of sound-
proofing the dwellings.
  In conclusion,  I recommend: One, guidance on the Federal level
and legislation on the  state and local level, coherent and consistent
with limiting  excessive noise on roadways; two, immediate  in-
vestigation by vehicle manufacturers on  the causes and solutions
of excessive noise, not for the passengers of the vehicles,  but for
the recipients of the  noise outside the vehicle; three, increased
considerations of noise  emissions in the building of future road-
ways, and amenity grants for  people who own dwellings adjacent
to excessively noisy roadways; and four, the development of long-
range plans for the eventual phasing out of the  current noisy
vehicle  and  the replacement with  alternative  transportation
systems.
  If vehicular surface  traffic  increases at the projected  growth
rate of three times that  of our population increase, excessive noise
cannot help but increase every day.
  To procrastinate in legislation and control of excessive vehicle
noise, is  as much of  a  crime  today as vehicle air  pollution was
yesterday.  Therefore, I urge  immediate action on all levels to
reduce unnatural vehicular noise pollution, before it drowns out
our  few  remaining natural  sounds.  Gentlemen, thank  you for
allowing me this opportunity to speak with you.
  Dr. MEYER.  Our pleasure to have you, sir.  Panel? Did I hear,
Mr.  Tabak, in that list of recommendations,  an indemnification
proposal ?
  Mr. TABAK. As I understand it, sir, it is done in England.
  Dr. MEYER. I just want to be sure I understood you.
  Mr. TABAK. Yes.
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  Mr. TABAK. Excuse me, indemnification for the soundproofing
of the home.
  Dr. MEYER. Right. As I mentioned in one of the other sessions
of this hearing, it has been reliably reported to me that a similar
proposal was followed in  Japan near airports,  and it's very in-
teresting that you bring this up, sir. I appreciate it.
  Mr. TABAK. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. May I ask if Mr. John Watts is pi^esent? If so, Mr.
Watts, please come and join us and let us welcome you here, sir.

    STATEMENT OF JOHN WATTS, UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
               ENVIRONMENTAL LAW SOCIETY
  Mr. WATTS. Mr. Chairman and members of the panel, my name
is John A. Watts. I  am a third-year law student and chairman of
the Environmental  Law Society at the University  of  Michigan
Law School. For the past several weeks members of the Environ-
mental  Law  Society have been participating in a noise control
project with Prof.  J.  A. Bolt  and  graduate  assistant William
Capp, both of  the  University of Michigan Department of  Me-
chanical Engineering. The interdisciplinary project is designed to
develop enforceable noise  control legislation for various govern-
mental bodies, and is funded by  the University's Institute for En-
vironmental Quality. I might add that it's  primarily concerned
with vehicular noise.
  We have spent much of our time gathering information, inter-
viewing local and State police and highway officials and  compiling
existing noise legislation and case law. Our  research to date has
led us  to several conclusions concerning  what we feel  to be  the
most important aspect of noise pollution legislation: The problem
of enforcement.
  If the police department is to be an enforcement agency  for
noise control and abatement, several factors must be considered.
Here again it also might be said that the health department could
be substituted for the police department, but I think  the same
problems of  enforcement will be in existence. Enforcement of
noise control legislation is expensive. It requires special equipment
—a reliable sound meter  may cost up to $1,000 or above—and
trained personnel. Substantial funds should be provided for equip-
ment and extra manpower unless the enforcement can be done by
specifically trained  police in a  vehicle checklane or during  the
regular vehicle inspection.  There again, funds would have to be
added, but certainly not substantial funds.
  Large trucks can be tested at various weigh  stations operated
by  agencies  such as the  Michigan Public Service  Commission,
which is a regulatory agency in Michigan. Enforcement of noise
control  legislation  may be extremely difficult. Weather changes
will have a  definite  affect on measurement  devices. Background
noise may  also affect  measurement. Noise  created by multiple
noisemakers, two or three cars or trucks  together, none of whom
individually is exceeding the decibel limits,  is another problem to
be considered by legislative drafting.
  Certification and calibration of instruments may be exceedingly
time-consuming by the police. Police that we interviewed generally
do not want to be put in the position of "enforcing one law  at a
time."  They  feel they  are trained to perform many duties  and
this training would  be  "wasted" if they devoted themselves ex-

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clusively to noise control. A three-man noise team (similar to the
radar speed control zone) was thought to be a tremendous waste
of police manpower by the police themselves.  Establishing a ci-
vilian "noise team" was not recommended because they would not
have  the  power  to  make  arrests for other observed violations
(e.g., concealed weapons).  Police also give highest priority to the
enforcement  of laws which are related to the saving of lives (e.g.,
speeding) and noise control does not fall into this category—yet.
An example  of the enforcement problems is  Ann Arbor,  Mich.,
which has  had a  noise control ordinance (90 dBA maximum) on
the books since  1965, but  has found it almost impossible  to en-
force because the police  simply  do not have enough trained men
or adequate equipment.
  The police we interviewed wanted simple, reliable and inexpen-
sive instruments which  could be operated under varying  condi-
tions. Until this equipment  is developed perhaps the most practical
solution is to enforce noise control  legislation in the vehicle in-
spection  program, or with noise teams  composed of one  police
officer and one person trained in noise measurement techniques,
which is what I understand Chicago is doing.
  Definite  legislative standards  are necessary in order to avoid
the problems created by  the present statutes which prohibit  "ex-
cessive and unusual noise." Some  commentators consider these
statutes unconstitutional because of their vagueness, but court
challenges of these statutes have  usually been unsuccessful. Police-
men, too, recognize the problems in enforcing these "subjective"
standards.  One police officer mentioned that a judge had dismissed
an  "excessive noise" case  because  the motorcyclist was able to
prove that his cycle was "factory-equipped" and, therefore, did
not issue an "excessive or unusual noise." It was,  according to the
policeman, very excessive and very unusual.
  One basic component of an effective solution to the noise pollu-
tion problem, and obviously other pollution problems, is the effec-
tive enforcement  of manufacturing  standards. But several manu-
facturing representatives profess to be unable to meet "stringent"
noise  standards—I think we heard some of them  yesterday—just
as car manufacturers say  they  will be unable to meet  the 1970
Clean Air Act standards  by 1975. But there has to be some means
to foster technological innovation, to force industries to develop
the hardware necessary to  meet  reasonable standards. There has
been little evidence to date  that  manufacturers will reduce noise
levels without government-imposed standards.
  There has  been little evidence to  date that manufacturers  will
reduce noise levels without government-enforced standards. I know
many of them say,  "Let  the free market, free enterprise system
do this for us," but at least we feel that manufacturers today are
giving the people what  they  think the  people want. They are
creating a  climate where noise  is something to  be  almost wor-
shipped.
  I think  many  of  us have probably seen this in the advertise-
ments of today. Just the  other day there was an ad on TV where,
for a child's bicycle,  a little device that you could  add to it where
it said, "It doesn't make  the bicycle  go any faster, it just sounds
like it." That is the kind of thing that manufacturers are doing.
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recommendations, which I  won't read, but I will just introduce
them as testimony.
  Dr. MEYER. Well,  thank you very much, sir. Mr. Watts, you
pointed out an area of major concern to those of us interested in
and responsible for the  pending legislation in Congress on noise.
I was listening to you, but I was also scanning over your recom-
mendations, and they seem to me to be very forthright,  and I
would just as soon have you go ahead and read them.
  Mr. WATTS. Okay. My recommendations are: Federal standards
for vehicular noise  should  be  established at the earliest possible
date. Provisions should be included which allow for  stricter State
standards (e.g., H.R. 6986).
  I might add, by the way, there was some talk about preemption
yesterday and today as far as the uniform standard. We feel that
yes, there should  be a uniform Federal standard, but  I think it
would be a very advantageous situation to have the States com-
peting for quietness. It  would  probably be a tourist advantage to
say that, you know,  Illinois or Michigan is the quietest State in
the country, if that ever comes,
  Dr. MEYER. But not at a football game.
  Mr. WATTS. Right, but not at a football game. Full or matching
grants should be made available to police and health departments
throughout the  nation (either  through the Law Enforcement As-
sistance Administration in  the Department of Justice or through
the EPA) to purchase  equipment and train  personnel in noise
control.
  A system  of tax incentives for the manufacture of quiet prod-
ucts should be explored  to ascertain its feasibility. The  long term
goal in the fight against  noise pollution should always be to reduce
the noise level and not merely to hold the  line at an "acceptable"
noise level. I think that speaks for itself.
  And the last recommendation, additional Federal highway funds
might be supplied for research on the use of material for quieter
road surfaces. We might also, probably should add, as far as road
surface and barriers along the highway, to somehow limit the
noise from that. The highway officials we talked to said they have
been experimenting with that, and  there  is obviously  a tradeoff
on the surfaces, as we learned yesterday,  you have  to  talk about
slipperiness  as  opposed  to quietness.  With the barriers, you have
got an extra barrier for a car to collide with, so you have  got to
make those kinds  of tradeoffs.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. Panel?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Very quickly  I would like to apologize to you
and the other witnesses today for something that just occurred
to me; my apparent  disinterest in gazing out in the audience has
nothing to do with your  presentation, but I spent 10 hours yester-
day looking  over my right shoulder, and it's extremely  painful at
this point, and  it may be true of the other panel members. One
quick question, you mentioned  the long-term  goal  in the fight
agains noise pollution should always be to reduce the noise level,
not merely hold the line.
  I have been dealing with noise 12 years, and I know that people
who have been dealing  with it for 20 years, and we  have been
saying all during that period, "Let's hold the line and then have a
tight  schedule." Had this happened 20 years ago, 10  years ago,
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with that, that maybe even now, if at least we could hold the line
on some of these areas, 5 years from now it wouldn't be perhaps
still worse?
  Mr. WATTS. I guess I would agree with that.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. As an addendum to your point, which is valid
as a long-term goal.
  Mr. WATTS. Yes. OK.
  Professor PLACER. One  other quick point, you mentioned the
problem of manufacturers meeting consumers' demands and yes-
terday we had testimony from several manufacturers, either writ-
ten or oral, indicating that they felt their obligation was to comply
with the law and demands of the market.
  Would it be fair, would you agree that the manufacturer in fact
may  be a significant influence in developing or determining what
the market demands, that is, through his advertising and presen-
tation of his product, he may, in fact, be filling, self-filling proph-
esies to what the market demands in his  products are.
  Mr. WATTS. I would certainly agree with that.
  Professor PLACER. You  would think the  manufacturer should
bear some responsibility for that problem?
  Mr. WATTS.  I certainly do, and  I know Professor Sax  at the
law school in  Michigan has  wrestled with this  problem that I
mentioned  of trying to  get  the manufacturer to do this on his
own, to sort of push himself.
  Well, from my listening to the testimony yesterday and today,
you know, it's just not going to happen. It's going to  have to come
from some sort of  Government prodding, and I am  not in favor
of, you know, anymore Government prodding than  is necessary,
but if it would happen without that, I would say fine, you know,
stay  out of it, but I just don't think it will.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel ? Thank you very much.
  Mr. WATTS.  OK. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. I would now like to  ask Mr.  Cleveland Walcutt of
the commission to  draft city noise ordinance of  the city  of Bir-
mingham, Mich, to come and talk to us.

 STATEMENT OF CLEVELAND WALCUTT. CITY OF BIRMINGHAM
  Mr. WALCUTT. Gentlemen, I am very grateful for the opportun-
ity of being here today.  It gives me the chance to say that noise
on our highways is not  only excessive, but unnecessary. We be-
lieve the noise problem can be readily solved, but not by the ap-
proach being made under the recent noise abatement bills.
  By "excessive'.' we mean sound levels near 100  dBA at 50 feet,
and we  say it is unnecessary since most of the  vehicles on the
road  do  not offend when a fast acceleration is  made to 50  miles
per hour from a standing position.
  We heard yesterday about loud noise levels from aircraft. This
noise has  the dubious distinction of resulting from a service to
the public, but  the noise I speak of  results from no useful service.
My concern, then,  is not with the majority of drivers, but the
few who deliberately make their vehicles noisy, or those who are
indifferent to  the  noise  they  make.  To  paraphrase  Winston
Churchill,  "never have so few done  so much to disturb so many."
  The answer  is legislation  which  will force these  noisy few to
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been unable to take legal actions against the operator of noisy
vehicles. We have local ordinances against drag racing, excessive
noise, and  altered mufflers.  The appearance of an officer  on the
scene will check the drag racing for a time, but a charge of ex-
cessive  noise—a relative term—is too indefinite to be enforced,
while altered mufflers are repaired before the case comes to court.
  We have applied  to our State and Federal representatives, and
to our  local  government  bodies for legislation and  ordinances
which  could  be  enforced. We  received sympathetic replies, and
were assured of new legislation; on the local level I was asked to
join the Birmingham Committee on  Noise Pollution and  Abate-
ment.
  We studied recently  enacted bills and  ordinances  as to, one,
fitness and suitabiity to the problem; and, two,  ease of enforce-
ment. Then, because the decibel meter is required to obtain sound
levels for the enforcement of the law, we use the meter to monitor
a nearby highway.
  From our  work on the problem we concluded that the recent
bills, all similar to  the California legislation, failed to provide a
satisfactory solution, and that we disagree with an approach  on
four different counts.
  First, we disagree with a  concept of  relating noise to speed
under which almost twice the noise  level  in power units, an in-
crease of three  dB is permitted for speeds above 35 miles  per
hour. Speed  is a basic  operating requirement  of  a vehicle,  but
noise which can be controlled is completely—is a completely un-
desirable byproduct. Moreover, with  roads in the city and suburbs
operated to semiarterial highways, speeds have been raised to 45
miles per hour in residential areas. Therefore, to permit twice the
sound level on these streets is both illogical and not suitable to the
problem. We also believe the noise-speed relationship is  adding
an unnecessary complication to law enforcement.
  Second, we object to an operational law which is compared to
speed laws. We believe this analogy is false. The speedometer per-
mits a driver to regulate the speed of his vehicle to comply with
the law. However, he has no instrument to aid him in complying
with a noise  level specification. We ask how can  a person be held
responsible for an  act over which he has no control? We think
all the drivers should be required to do is keep his vehicle in good
operating condition.
  Third, we do not like the regulation for the enforcement of the
law—and good  lawyer  who becomes familiar  with  sound  level
measurement  can  successfully challenge the  evidence brought
against his client, and possibly the validity of the law itself. We
do not  question the value of the sound  meter as such, but we
wish to point out that it is useful only under controlled conditions.
  The new legislation requires the use of a sound level meter set
up at a fixed distance from center line of traffic. It is fine if there
is but  one  lane, one vehicle, and no intermittent and  extraneous
noise, for then the meter will provide a reliable reading. However,
under more congested traffic conditions the decibel meter  cannot
isolate  the noise made  by the offending vehicle from the noise
made by all  others on  the  road.  In our  limited experience the
necessity of noting the speed, the lane  of traffic on a multilane
highway and the sound level of the offending vehicle is an almost
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  Finally, we object to the allowable sound levels in the new bills
which are obviously higher than the noise levels of most of the
vehicles on the road today. Our measurement indicated the aver-
age noise level on a multilane highway to be 70-75 dBA at 50 feet
for cars, and some motorcycles.
  Yesterday we heard what the aircraft industry could do in re-
ducing noise under public pressure. We believe the auto  industry
could make  the  same improvement under similar circumstances.
We think noise pollution legislation should require that,  one, manu-
facturers produce motor vehicles which are sufficiently  quiet at all
speeds below the maximum speed permitted on the open highway,
and at all other  conditions of operation.
  Most passenger vehicles built today could pass this test. Under
this regulation there would be no need for  an operational law,
for speed-sound relationship or  for  roadside sound monitoring
stations.
  Two, the  vehicle suspected by trained highway patrols  could
be taken to  a nearby suitable test site which could be  considered
ideal  for the purpose of sound level measurement.
  Three, the term "sufficiently  quiet" for passenger vehicles and
motorcycles  be defined at approximately 75 dBA at  50 feet.
  Four, existing vehicles  on  the highway which are found to be
in violation  would be required to have the mufflers upgraded.
  To  summarize, studies  of  noise pollution and  sound measure-
ment have led to the conclusion that the recent legislation  is in-
adequate. The allowable noise levels are too high. The concept of
relating noise to speed is faulty, and the use of roadside monitor-
ing stations results in data which may  not stand a  court test. It
is suggested that new legislation  contain the following require-
ments :
  One, manufacturers produce cars and motorcycles with  a maxi-
mum noise  level of 75 dBA  at 50  feet for all speeds below  the
maximum legal limits.
  Two, noise levels not related to speed.
  Three, decibel meters be used under closely controlled  conditions.
  We end this testimony by asking that the Office of Noise Abate-
ment  and Control, in  its report to Congress not repeat the errors
we have described in  the ordinances and bills recently  enacted by
many cities and States. Thank you.*
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Walcutt, thank you  very much.  We will pay
careful attention to your recommendations as we are going over
this  portion  of  the material to be included  in  the report.  You
raised some problems that we  are aware of, and we  appreciate
the amount  of information you provide us  here with your views.
Panel?
  Mr. MARTIN.  Mr.  Walcutt, in your  report you  indicate  that
measurements taken on a multilane highway to be around  70 to
75 dBA at 50 feet, and you say this is for  passenger cars and
motorcycles.  Now,  in general  your large motorcycles—not  the
minibikes, but the fairly large ones will all make much in excess
of this.
  Mr. WALCUTT. I think it says some motorcyces, does it not?
  Mr. MARTIN. Well	
 '' A prepared statement, along with supporting material is on file at the Office of Noise
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  Mr. WALCUTT. But there are  some that are 100 dBA that we
recorded there, but there are quiet motorcycles, believe it or not.
I mean they can be made quiet,  that is the point.
  Mr. MARTIN. I know there are ways.
  Mr. WALCUTT. We don't know why all of them aren't quiet.
Well, as a matter of fact, there is a Japanese motorcycle that was
very quiet,  and  they couldn't sell them until they put on a noisy
muffler.
  Mr. MARTIN. This is one of the problems.
  Do you have copies of this data that was accumulated?
  Mr. WALCUTT. On the tape recorder?
  Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
  Mr. WALCUTT. I have only on a sound tape, I have it with me,
if you care  to hear it.
  Mr. MARTIN. No, I didn't intend to hear it. I was hoping if you
had this translated into a report, you might be able to send it in
with the full record.
  Mr. WALCUTT. All we have now is on a tape  record. You see,
we  didn't have an automatic recorder. As  these  vehicles came
along the road  we had a microphone and picked  up the  sound,
and also  looked  at the decibel meter and indicated on the tape
what the level of decibel was, and it went way up.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I would just like to add to your list of
reasons against roadside monitoring stations,  that the noise re-
ceived by the station  depends sometimes very much on  atmos-
pheric conditions, wind directions, and so forth.
  Mr. WALCUTT. Yes. Well, in that longer report I  list about
seven things against monitoring stations, and all the difficulties
involved.
  Dr. MEYER. This is a subject that we are going to study at great
length and  for which we will include a tremendous amount of in-
formation in our record. Thank  you very much, sir.
  Mr. WALCUTT. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Is Glenna Alevizos here, representing the  citizens
of South Minneapolis?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. I am glad to have you here, young lady and  look
forward to  hearing what you have to say.
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Thank you.

       STATEMENT OF GLENNA ALEVIZOS, CITIZENS OF
                   SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. In 1966 our family moved to Minneapolis from
a small town in western Minnesota. We were anxious to settle in
our new home. Moving day brought a whole new revelation to us.
We had purchased a home under the  flight  pattern of Wold
Chamberlain Field and the noise was intolerable. This same story
has been repeated to me time and time again since I became in-
volved in a citizens movement to try to reduce aircraft noise in
our neighborhoods.
  The story is not unique or new. Many citizens across the coun-
try, and in fact the world, are  being bombarded with this  hor-
rendous plague.
  Dr. Michael Eisenberg, chief  of surgery at Mount Sinai Hos-
pital,  in  Minneapolis  and  who  lives under the incoming flight
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response of any kind stops when flights are coming in overhead.
The senses  are dulled and the noise causes extreme fatigue and
depression."
  Dr. Jack  Westman, a psychiatrist from the University of Wis-
consin at Madison cites that even noise from household gadgets
cause or aggravate a state of heightening body  arousal  and gen-
eral nervous tension. What then must continual  jet aircraft noise
do to the human body?
  The Today's Health magazine, July 1970, article entitled "Silenc-
ing Invisible Pollution," states that "noise profoundly  affects our
heart and blood vessels. Noise increases the level of cholesterol in
the blood and  raises blood pressure. Noise makes the heart work
harder by thickening the  blood."
  The article also reports John D. Dougherty, M.D. of  Harvard
and  Oliver  L. Welsch, Ph.  D. of Boston as saying, "What has
passed unnoticed is that many noise levels encountered  in the
community  exceed standards found injurious in industry."
  The noise I  am  talking  about cuts  an ugly  scar  across the
southern  half of Minneapolis, an area  which is known for  its
beautiful lakes right  within the city. A recent  noise study indi-
cated that there  were approximately 27,000  homes affected  by
the noise in Minneapolis alone.
  The map  I have here shows homes that were built in Minne-
apolis before 1940,  and this is indicated by the red dots in this
area [indicating], and here you can see the airport location  [in-
dicating]—I have the map upside down—the location  of the air-
port and the runways run north and south, this way [indicating],
over our homes, and we have continually heard the argument that
the airport was there before the homes  were, and this  is just not
true in this case. Many  of  the  homes  were  built in the 1930's.
  The advent of the jet in the 1960's is what really brought the
noise into the  neighborhood. In 1957  a  citizens group  fought the
expansion of Wold Chamberlain Field, fearing the increase of
flights. Sadly to say, they  lost their fight. Eleven years  later their
fears have come true. Noise is intolerable. There are approximately
340 flights in and out of Wold  Field each day now and the projec-
tion for 1980 is 700 nights per day.
  I entered this battle about 11/9 years ago  slightly  naive and
hopeful that a strong citizen muscle could strong arm change.
Sadly to say, people soon say  this is  a  futile battle. They  try to
accept the noise or move in bitter frustration. The attitude of
many people is often miscalled apathy. It is not apathy but silent
desperation.
  Our strongest  indication  of support  came from a  pamphlet
distributed in our neighborhood  calling a  public meeting about
airplane  noise. The evening of the meeting, people came in large
numbers—as a great  surprise to me—and it was approximately
300 to 400 people. Many  were retired couples with their homes
paid for. They can't stand the noise but  they can't afford  to move.
Whenever my spirits begin to  sink I remember that meeting and
the hopeful faces—it inspired me to continue to find relief.
  So here we are today—yes, noise is finally being considered a
form of pollution. What has been accomplished in Minneapolis?
  During this past year and one-half we have seen some results
and more responsiveness from the airport commission. However,
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told  that  flight  dispersal was  not  possible but after continued
pressure it has been put into  effect more as a matter of under-
standing rather than a hard and fast rule.
  Takeoff procedures can reduce noise to a more comfortable level
but here again it depends strictly on the attitude of the airline
and the pilot. Many times we have heard that quiet takeoffs imply
unsafe procedures. We would  like for the pilots to produce such
evidence.
  Noise was determined as a contaminant and this passed through
the past session  of the legislature of the  State of Minnesota. We
are now waiting for the pollution control agency to set  effective
noise standards.
  So there has been some relief but traffic out of Wold Field con-
tinues  to increase, negating any temporary help from the above
mentioned procedures.
  We consider the long-range  goal to  be the phasing out of Wold
Chamberlain Field for a more environmentally correct site. The
airport commission has  spent  almost $500,000 on site selection
studies and yet after  two rejections of the site  continue  on a
narrow one idea concept. We  find their  lack of leadership  most
disheartening1.
  There is no expense account for the citizen. He must bear the
cost of this intruder into his home.  His property is of less value.
In our neighborhood a family which  applies for a VA mortgage
must sign a paper indicating they know that this area is affected
by aircraft noise before the loan  is  approved.
  If he tries to fight for his right to peace and quiet, he must pay
the expenses,  as we have done this past year and a half—or  he
simply gives up to the  God of  progress and moves. At least when
a highway takes over property a  homeowners is reimbursed.
  We believe it is time for the airline industry to admit  they are
the polluter and begin paying their  fair share for the rape of the
city of Minneapolis.
  Mr.  Benjamin Griggs, vice  president  of Northwest Airlines,
indicated in testimony before a hearing of the Minneapolis Legisla-
ture that Northwest Airlines does realize  they are  not a  good
neighbor.
  Assuming the airlines will acknowledge their responsibility,  we
are asking that steps be taken to start to control noise pollution.
  Number 1, that the  EPA  be  allowed  to set noise  control
standards.
  Two, we ask that monitoring devices be installed near airports
where  noise is a problem.
  Three, a program of  retrofitting be initiated by the Federal
Government.
  Four, that there be a reviewal of  CAB procedures in approving
new flights.
  A recent editorial in the St.  Paul Pioneer Press indicated that
the average passenger capacity out of Wold Chamberlain Field
was 44 percent.
  The  answers don't come  easy, but we sincerely plead for help.
We want to stress we are not  antiaviation, we are antinoise.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much.  Panel?
  Mr.  HlNTON. I have one question of Mrs. Alevizos, Mr. Chair-
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during the last year and a half—you said, I think you said con-
flicting statements, and I wish you would	
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Yes, Mr. Hinton,  I do  believe that there  has
been help, especially in the area of flight dispersal. I believe that
it has taken a lot of heavy traffic off our runways, and people in
the neighborhood have noticed this. I don't believe  that  takeoff
procedures have helped as much as  they could.  I believe  that if
all airlines were following these procedures, I  believe it would
help a great deal.
  Mr. HINTON. Thank you very much.
  Mr. MARTIN.  Mrs. Alevizos, in your statement you indicated
when the highway comes through they pay for the right of land.
Do you feel that the residents, the people you are speaking for to
some extent would rather their property were taken over as op-
posed to other changes?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. There are some who would just as  soon have
reimbursements for their property and be allowed to move. Others
feel that they do not want to give up their property, and I think
that they would fight for it.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Mrs. Alevizos, do you represent  mainly
people from the neighborhood that you  indicated there, the older
homes, or mainly people who live closer to the airport?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. I indicate—or I have worked  with a group of
people from my neighborhood, and this is a neighborhood of older
homes which were built in the thirties and forties.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Yes; but what I  am asking is does most
of the resentment of the  airport come from that neighborhood,
or from the  neighborhoods that have been built up nearer  the
airport?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. There is resentment from the other neighbor-
hood, but I represent only  the neighborhood in South Minneapolis.
  Professor KERREBROCK.  Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Hinton asked me  if I would yield, if he could
ask another question, but I have one thing I would like, if  you
can get a copy of that map and send it to us, so  it may be appro-
priately included in the  final  printed  version of the  record,  I
would very much like to have it.
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. All right.*
  Dr. MEYER. Secondly, could I ask a question? You  mentioned
one of the alternatives that is being looked at by the newly consti-
tuted airport authority people in Minneapolis, mainly  relocation.
One  of the things one has to take into account  in relocating an
airport, of course, is what  I think you alluded to,  and I hope I was
hearing you right, that it  had to be to a site that wasn't going to
adversely impact the environment into which it was being moved.
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. It had to be properly planned. We  are not trying to
move your problem off to somebody else, or to impact some of the
beautiful country which you have up in that part of the  United
States, without taking into account the  preservation  of those en-
vironments.
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. This is true. We feel there should be site selec-
tion  of many different sites,  and we don't feel  that it has been
conducted in  the Twin Cities area properly.
  Dr. MEYER. Fine. Thank you.
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  Mr.  HINTON. Mrs.  Alevizos,  I guess one question, you men-
tioned  that the freeway taking the  land, it has been my feeling—
and I would like to get your reaction—that the people who were,
whose  property was acquired by the freeway right-of-way were
the fortunate ones, and those left along the side of the freeways,
as along the one in Minneapolis, were the unfortunate ones, and
just to set the record straight on that airport site  selection in the
Twin Cities area, I think the main problem is that it's not to re-
locate the airport, but to have an additional airport, leaving some
existing, considerable existing traffic at the old airport.
  Could you comment on the freeway noise?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Yes; the freeway noise in our area is very in-
tolerable for those who live next to it,  and they have tried to do
some studies on that, and set up some kind of a law, and as  I
understand it this will take place, but I don't know how effective
that will be, either.
  Mr.  HINTON. Thank you.
  Professor PLAGER.  One  quick question for you.  You heard Mr.
Franks' testimony?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. Yes.
  Professor PLAGER. I think you  heard that  earlier; you don't
seem to express the same degree or  level of what I sense to be
anger,  mixed with concern that he did. Is this because your group
has had a more satisfactory experience in dealing with the govern-
mental agencies you have dealt with, or is this simply because you
haven't reached that point yet? Can you comment on that?
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. I think that we, at times, have had this feeling
of frustration and bitterness, and I think after working this long
in it you realize that there are many, many problems, and you try
and be as understanding  as you can.  When you know that they
are dispersing the flights on a day when the wind ordinarily would
becoming more in your direction,  you  are grateful for that day
of peace and quiet, and so you think  well, then, you can hang on
for 1 more day. You  wont' go  sit on the end of the runway—I
have made comments to that effect, yes, the next time we meet we
will be meeting on the end of the  runway, but we have  tried to
be a responsible organization. We have tried  to  work with city
government and State legislature and be responsible. The anger
is there at times, but, yes, we feel—and I think that this  hearing
in itself has given us a glimmer of hope—we feel that there may
be some progress, and we hope that  it's warranted.
  Professor PLAGER. We do, too. Thank you.
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Mrs. Alevizos, how long has your neighborhood
been upset by the noise? I know you moved in sort of precipitously,
but evidently your neighbors had been upset before then.
  Mrs. ALEVIZOS. As I said, in 1957, people began to work. In the
early sixties it began  to get worse, and it seemed like in, I think
it was June or July of 1967, like  they say, all hell  broke loose.
There  was,  as I understand  it,  a  changing of our runway con-
figuration, and it brought  the noise directly over the homes in our
area, and that seemed to be the time when it really got terrible.
  Dr.  MEYER. At this point we are going to take, because of en-
vironmental  stresses  and environmental considerations, a  10-
minute recess. Thank you for coming to address this group.
   (Short recess.)
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  Mrs. DEL CALZO. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. Mrs. Del Calzo, may I invite you to  come up and
visit with us. You, I believe, are representing the Minnesota En-
vironmental Control Citizens Association?
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. That's correct.
  Dr. MEYER. Glad to have you here.
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. Thank you.

       STATEMENT  OF JANICE DEL CALZO, MINNESOTA
     ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL CITIZENS ASSOCIATION
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. My name is Janice Del Calzo and I am speak-
ing as a director of the Minnesota Environmental Control Citizens
Association, better known as MECCA. I would just like to explain
that MECCA is a 5,000-member volunteer citizen  action group
evaluating pollution  problems  and acting to solve them. About a
year and a half ago, a number of Minneapolis residents, irate over
the noise being generated by  aircraft using Wold  Chamberlain
International Airport, formed the nucleus for a MECCA task force
to study  noise pollution. I am chairman of that task  force. One of
the group's first realizations was that until recently, noise was not
considered an environmental problem because it was characterized
by being highly localized and intermittent. Today, however, thanks
to unbridled progress and such devices as all terrain vehicles,
snowmobiles and trailbikes, noise has even invaded the wilderness.
In metropolitan areas excessive noise contributes to urban decay
just as surely as high crime rates or any other problem. The task
force needed little searching to discover the major noise polluters
in the area—highways and the airport gain dubious distinction as
the winners.
  I would like to tell you a little about the particular problem of
aircraft  noise in Minneapolis and  I think the story is  rather
typical of  other cases throughout  the  country. In  Minneapolis
the airport  is located in the center of a highly residential area
with its noise cones extending  into several different  suburbs. The
area of Minneapolis  affected by the noise is comprised of middle
class homes largely built during the time when the airport site was
still being used as a racetrack and  decades before the advent  of
commercial jets. In 1911 the home where I live was built.  It is 5
miles from the airport but is  considered in a noise  zone because
it is under the approach path to runway 11R.
  The location of Wold Chamberlain was not designed an airport
site until 1923. People built homes in the vicinity before and after
that date on  land zoned for residential development. Charles
Lindbergh landed at the airport in August  1927. Residents who
still live in the neighborhood remember  that  flight and  sadly
lament, "His plane was quiet."
  Remember though, his "Spirit of St. Louis" was a  single engine
craft of only 200 horsepower.  It was  to be followed by a stream
of aircraft each louder than the one before.
  Throughout this progression  homeowners did nothing  more
than occupy their homes. It is  commercial aviation which has
been the  dynamic force infringing upon the residents' right to a
peaceful  existence in this case  and not people encroaching on the
airport as aviation types would like to believe.
  For a  moment let us inventory the community reactions and
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awhile people tolerate the noise. Then with noisier planes, more
flights, and no consideration for their living conditions, the peo-
ple organize,  protest, demonstrate, seek  governmental  help  in
solving the problem, use legal action, and usually in desperation
move away. This leaves a neighborhood in which only those who
cannot afford  to or because  of other reasons stay in their homes.
Their personal quality of life deteriorates because of the noise.
  Meanwhile  the  neighborhood becomes  transient  precipitating
housing deterioration  and ultimately you have all the problems
of a slum. It  is ironic that  the noise which was heralded  as an
indicator of progress would  turn out to be a "ghettoizer."
  Getting to  the  root of the problem of who should be  doing
something about the noise is an  interesting maze.
  Airport neighbors  always must  bring  up the matter  because
when one  examines the history of Federal  and local agencies
responsible for the orderly  growth of air transportation, little
can be found  to show any concern for the residents living near
airports. These citizens are  met with a confusing situation  and a
brilliant game of buckpassing.
  Airline officials say they  cannot do anything about the noise
because it is their sole responsibility to provide maximum service,
convenience, and  safety to the flying public. They also do not care
to tackle the expensive-to-solve problem because a solution would
not increase their ticket sales—their only criterion for action.
  Airlines are also quick to  point out  that they are highly regu-
lated, have enormous financial problems and since they are only
tenants at the airport, the complainers should talk to the airport
operator.
  If the pilots are consulted  at this point about possible procedures
to cut noise, they generally reply with what approaches a knee
jerk response statement of safety doesn't permit.
  It would be interesting  to  see  statistics  on the number  of
crashes and near  crashes caused by noise abatement  procedures
and the number due to pilot error  or faulty equipment. It  seems
this safety argument has been blown out of all proportion.
  The airport operator usually tries to ignore the problem as long
as possible hoping the people will get tired and just move  away.
Generally they plan wonderful games of diversion,  delay and dis-
interest.  After all, airport  operators  are more concerned with
political considerations and  generating revenue than quieting air-
port environ.
  If confronted with Public Law 90-411 which  allows an airport
operator to establish noise level  limits or place restrictions on the
type of aircraft using the airport, the operators use a multiple
choice response:  (1)  They  retreat behind economic arguments;
 (2) they state that there must be a better solution; (3) they say
the FAA is responsible for  rules regulating aircraft engine noise
and the actual flight of the  aircraft; or (4) all  of the above.
  The local airport authority in  Minneapolis added another choice
to the list which they have used since 1947. It consisted of, "Just
be patient, people, we are going to build a new airport  to solve
all the problems."
  However, it has now been revealed  that the authorities meant
a second airport, not a replacement for Wold Chamberlain.
  Clearly the  residents around  an airport have no ally in  the
FAA which has the dual responsibilities  of promoting and regu-
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promotion angle  and completes  the  buckpassing cycle by  saying
noise is a local problem and should be handled accordingly.
  The lack of  FAA concern is  typified  in remarks made by its
Administrator, John Schaffer, during a  congressional hearing in
February 1970. He  was urged  to condition the refitting  of  the
707 wing assembly on noise suppression of its engines. He replied
that it would  be  sacrilege  to scrap that plane  for  the sake of
quieter airports.  He also insisted  that it was unthinkable to re-
quire Boeing to solve  the 747's noise  problem before putting it
into production.
  This seems to reflect the industry feeling which asks people to
consider the airport's value to  the community  and commercial
aviation's value to the Nation  while  dismissing jet noise com-
plaints as being purely emotional.
  Throughout  this game  if anyone  suggests cutting flights as a
means of  reducing  noise—after  all why  should  we  have  the
equivalent of 99 empty jets flying the Atlantic daily—all parties
darkly hint at CAB intervention. Perhaps the CAB chooses to
regulate the wrong areas of air  transportation.
  One of the frustrations the citizen  experiences throughout is the
inequity of the whole affair. For  example,  if  a stranger  ran
through  your living room 20 times an hour generating noise levels
of 95  decibels, you could have  him arrested for disturbing  the
peace, trespassing, et cetera.
  But a plane  going overhead yielding the same noise level and
spreading air pollution as well  is sacrosanct under the  present
messed-up system.
  It is a case  of  the individual being asked to assume the  full
burden of industry's pollution. It sounds similar to campaigns of
city officials asking housewives to  use  nonpolluting detergents
while these same officials turn their back on the municipal sewage
system practice of dumping millions of gallons of untreated wastes
hourly into the nearest waterway.  Unless people in power assume
responsibility, individual actions are useless.
  Where has all this led? Across the country a growing counter
antinoise protest  against airports is  being heard.  It has been
estimated that between  3 and  10 million people belong  to that
minority group characterized by  living in  high aircraft noise areas.
  Many  within that number are becoming extremely vocal and
just think what a voting bloc that group  could be.
  Whenever a  new airport is proposed,  people living around  the
site  organize  quickly to block  the  construction of the facility.
They realize that others have been plagued by noise and want no
part of it.
  It should be  obvious to government aviation specialists that all
these people are not victims of some type of paranoia as has been
intimated. Rather these officials should look into the why  of  the
people protesting.
  An indictment that  airports have not been good  neighbors in
the past would be clear. It  would  also  be apparent that given
present conflicting and weak regulations there is no reason to
believe that future airports would do better.
  Some proposed solutions to the problem of high noise around
airports  offer  relief, but all fall short of providing anything  ap-
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  For example, improved flight procedures to reduce noise to
provide a noticeable reduction in decibel levels.  To be really effec-
tive, however, some agency must have the authority to make these
procedures mandatory and enforce them by means of monitoring
systems.
  Runway  utilization to equitably distribute the traffic around the
airport is a buying time solution. It doesn't solve the problem, only
shifts it around.
  One solution that has been proposed at Los Angeles and which
seems totally unacceptable as a means of alleviating  noise is that
of buying the homes and  clearing out neighborhoods adjacent to
the airport. What a total  and utter  waste  of resources to spend
millions of dollars on  a plan that compounds rather  than  amelio-
rates the situation.
  In this case the homeowner in essence is being punished—it is
like asking the victim to pay for the  crime.
  And even after spending vast sums to remove the most severely
affected neighborhoods the problem will still be present in other
surrounding the airport.
  Another  unacceptable approach is  the hands off attitude which
says, "Learn to live with the noise."
  People can accept  a lot of unpleasant  experiences,  but why
should they suffer an  unnecessary one? Forcing a person to live
with high  levels of noise  is just adding one more ingredient of
less than ideal living conditions when we should be talking about
improving them, not degrading them.
  I am not saying that the air transportation industry is all bad.
What I am saying is that  with any progress there are associated
costs  and to date the air  transportation industry has not borne
them.
  One true solution to the noise problem is to remove the highly
objectionable airports  to  new environmentally correct  sites  and
having local authorities stringently zone around them so  the old
problems do not reoccur.
  New airports are costly and so are the suggestions  to  retrofit
present engines and design new quiet engines for future aircraft.
When making up the specifications for engine designs in the past,
the airlines asked for safety and low maintenance features, both
of which helped to sell tickets and cut down costs.
  Obviously a quiet engine would do  neither of these two, so the
airlines forced the nearby residents to suffer the noise because of
their  unwillingness to assume the nonproductive costs of quiet
engines.  The flying public also must assume its burden for the
privilege of flying and if that means higher fares to pay for noise
abatement, at last the burden is sitting on the right shoulders.
  The blatant truth is that no agency is adequately protecting the
people living  near airports from exposure to  intolerable noise
levels by requiring such measures as those just stated. It is for
this reason that the Environmental Protection  Agency  should be
given the  authority  to set standards for  community  noise ex-
posure and be given  the  power  to  see that they are  enforced.
These standards should be based on  what the citizens find ac-
ceptable and  must not  be  weakened by economic  feasibility
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  With the environment and the welfare of the people as its only
concerns, this body should not fall victim to  the  mistakes  and
shortcomings of the present regulatory agencies.
  Dr. MEYER. This was a most thoughtful and well prepared state-
ment. Panel?
  Professor PLACER. I have one quick question for  you, Mrs. Del
Calzo. I don't wish to get  into a hassle between our honorable
chairman and the people who are tearing down  houses around the
airport, but is there anything really wrong with a  governmental
policy which provides for  compensating, including the purchase
price of the home for people who would rather move, and would
like  to have a governmental agency to sell their property to, if
there be, if they are subject to excessive airport noise?
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. With me it is just a feeling that you are asking
the wrong party to  pay the cost. True, you are paying him for his
financial burdens in buying a new  home, perhaps,  but there are
other nonfinancial costs associated with moving; the psychological
disruption of a family, things like this.
  Professor PLACER. How about if he is asking for out?
  Mrs. DEL CALZO.  If he is asking for out?
  Professor PLACER. If the homeowner  wants out.
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. I \yould say yes, I think  that would be an
acceptable solution. I still have qualms about what it would do to
the neighborhood.
  Professor PLACER. I don't offer it as a cure all, but I just wonder
if there is any reason to oppose the Government pursuing that
course, if people wanted it.
  Mrs. DEL CALZO.  If the person wants it.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Mr. HlNTON. I have  a couple of questions, Mrs. Del Calzo. I
would just like to refer to the point about the purchase of homes.
A case in point involved a tract of houses in  Los  Angeles,  and
those are all on a voluntary sale, it's not a public  condemnation
question in that particular  case.
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. It seems impossible to  me that everybody in
the neighborhood can simultaneously want out. I am sure that it's
a blockbusting type of a thing, that if some people start moving
out,  then everyone moves  out, and to  me that  is  destroying a
neighborhood.
  Mr.  HINTON. I would like to ask you, in  Minneapolis  do  you
feel—I should  say  the Twin Cities—do you feel  there  is  any
possibility for an early solution to the problem, or do you feel it's
a hopeless situation  unless  there  is firm Federal  Government
action ?
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. I think left up to the local authorities it's a
pretty impossible situation. Minneapolis doesn't  have the prob-
lems that some of the other airports have right now. The traffic
just isn't  as heavy  as  Los  Angeles or Chicago. For this  reason,
it's  one of the reasons I am flighting it,  let's not let it get  to that
point, but if we leave it in  the local hands, we are not going to
get  anymore action than we have in the past. A  case in point is
this new airport that they have talked about for 24  years. It just
isn't coming, and it probably won't come because of the political
considerations in siting a new airport, so it looks like we probably
won't get a new  airport, and then in  order to prevent this de-
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the present one, and to me that entails all the things I mentioned,
monitors	
  Mr. HINTON. One final question, and this follows as a followup
to my last question, which you answered very well, and that is in
the Twin Cities the airport commission  is made up of nine mem-
bers ; eight  are public officials of the two cities, the  two cities
which are most adversely affected by the noise from the airport.
This is different from the O'Hare situation where the surrounding
communities do not have control of the operation of the airport.
Can you comment just very briefly on how it can be explained that
the local municipal officials have  not taken action  over these 24
years that you mentioned to prevent this problem arising, in view
of the past citizen request for steps as described by Mrs. Alevizos ?
  Mrs. DEL  CALZO. Let's put it this way, yes, the airport commis-
sion is composed of elected and appointed officials. However, the
noise zone in the city of Minneapolis does  not extend across the
city, so you  have got a pocket of people  who are very, very upset
about the noise. They do not have a  majority  voice in elections,
in getting people who are sympathetic to their cause either elected
or appointed to this body. It's not a community-wide problem. I
think this is one of the things you see so clearly with noise, that
it's only when you, yourself, are affected by  it are you  really
moved to action, and there just is not—it truly is a large number
when you look at  it, but  it is not enough to move those  city
officials.
  Mr. HlNTON. Thank you very much.
  Professor KERREBROCK. I think there are lot of steps in trying to
solve this problem, but certainly one necessary step is to determine
just what is an acceptable noise level, and as I  asked Mr. Franks
to do, I would ask you to, if you can, try  to perform this judgment
with your associates as to when this noise became unacceptable,
and give us your  answer, because, you see, the burden  falls on
someone to make a decision as to how much noise will be tolerated,
because it can't be zero, that is clear	
  Mrs. DEL  CALZO. That is true.
  Professor KERREBROCK. And it's very  expensive to reduce it, so
we need the numbers.
  Mrs. DEL  CALZO. My feelings on that would  be not only it ap-
plies to aircraft noise, you mentioned when did this situation be-
come intolerable—I think in the areas around  the  airport  it
became intolerable when the jets were introduced to it, but, how-
ever, we have  other problems with noise, and  I guess my feeling
would  be that when the noise starts  interfering  with normal
activities—for example, speech interference and that type of thing,
is when you cross the line, when it's—when it becomes an irritant
—and I realize there are individual differences, so that these, you
know, what is  irritating to one person  would not be to another,
but I think  the only thing you can do is go by the norm. If you
have 100  people and 75 people say this is irritating, then that
should be where the standard is.
  Professor KERREBROCK. But I would point out to you that that
level varies  by 20 decibels, depending on how  the  experiment  is
run, and who you ask, and 20 decibels is  many, many, many, many
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  Mrs. DEL CALZO. I would rather have you err on the low side
than the high side, let's put it that way, if you are going to have
to set a standard, set it lower than you think.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. I appreciate this.
  Mrs. DEL CALZO. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. It's most useful to us.
  Is Mr. John Desmond, chairman of the Illinois Task Force  on
Noise still with us? Mr. Desmond, you have been most patient and
understanding, and sat through  a long day. I am happy to have
you here, sir.
  Mr. DESMOND. It has been most enlightening sitting here wait-
ing, Mr.  Chairman. Thank you, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. I would suspect that since you are chairman of a
task force on noise all  this  discussion would  be of some interest.
  Mr. DESMOND. It motivated.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, sir.  Happy to  have you, sir.

   STATEMENT OF JOHN DESMOND, UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS
                    TASK FORCE ON NOISE
  Mr. DESMOND. Indeed I do wish to describe some of the activi-
ties of the University of Illinois Task Force on Noise. Many, many
hours ago, however,  you did ask a question that I would like to
pick up on, and then  carry it further on into describing the Illinois
task force.
  You had  raised a question with Mr. Karplus, in what ways
could the Federal Government take some  leadership within per-
haps an  educational  context, and I, being a  representative of  an
educational  institution, feel compelled, separate  and apart from
reporting on our task force, to volunteer a response to that, and
with a possible danger  of sounding crass, I would like  to propose,
Dr. Meyer, that as you realize your legislative program,  as your
charge becomes much  more solidified, and  you  begin to worry
about the future ways  in which  the noise  program and the EPA
conducts its long term efforts, that the  universities historically
had been quite responsive to those expressions of public  concern
that come via the elected Congress down into the administrative
agencies—here I am making a pitch, a very strong one, that  as
you develop your program, that you think seriously about the ways
in which universities can not  only help you formulate your pro-
gram, but also respond in the developing of new understandings
and methodologies about this general area of noise.
  I would go one  step  further, even though  I represent a college
of engineering, to suggest it is not only the support of advancing
technologies in attenuating noise, as we all  have  gathered here
in these hearings today, it's a matter of noise, the matter  of noise
is clearly not only a technological question,  it's one of other sci-
ences, other disciplines as well being involved.
  Much greater understanding has to be sought, true, on techno-
logical improvements in attenuating noise, but we must also un-
derstand better the  physiological and the behavioral  affects  of
noise, and then I would also like  to make a very strong pitch that
there has to be a whole new generation of  engineers,  scientists,
and lawyers who are totally responsive to the complexities of the
science, the technology, the law of environmental improvement.
  I have conveyed very strong feeling,  once you  recognize  it,
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with the new understandings of these  complicated  matters, but
they are the only human enterprise that I know that also supplies
you with the successive generations of well-trained people who are
not only equipped to deal with these problems, but hopefully as we
educate our people  better, with your support they are also quick
with the sensitivities to deal with these  problems.
  Now, let me go on in a more specific vein, relative to that entity
that  is known as the University of Illinois Task Force on Noise—
and in a way I suspect it might disappoint some of you on what
I have to report, because it is, in some respects, a progress report,
and not a final report.
  The State  of Illinois  Institute for Environmental Quality was
asked by our pollution control board, as they began to  sense—as
must they should,  the increasing concerns  about noise, to  seek
out experts—a task force, as it were-—to advise them and counsel
them on the  types  of noise regulations that the State of Illinois
might adopt.
  As it is quite clear to  many of you, the major concern, the
major pressure, the major outcry in the noise area has revolved
around airport noise.
  The pollution control board had before it a citizens proposal,
which it was statutorily obligated to hear and  subject to  public
hearing, the task force then became just as preoccupied with the
airport noise problem as the pollution control board did.
  We  assembled an interdisciplinary team of physiologists  con-
cerning themselves  with acoustic trauma, psychologists who con-
cerned themselves with  the effects of noise upon human behavior,
human performance,  speech interference, interference of sleep;
engineers,  aeronautical engineers, mechanical  engineers,  agri-
cultural engineers,  physicists, and lawyers to take as broad as
possible a  look as we  could  at this terribly, terribly technically
complicated as well as legally complicated area of environmental
concern.
  Our task force also  included one other important person, and
that  was Mr. John  Moore, who was the Chief of the Division of
Noise Abatement and Control on the State level of  the Environ-
mental Protection Agency.
  As the hearings were conducted relative to the CAP, there was
a certain  amount of dissatisfaction registered as to the viability
and workability of  that proposal. Some of this was  expressed by
the  citizens  representatives themselves. The pollution  control
board at that point  asked whether the task force would be willing
to subject the CAP proposal to a thorough scrutiny, and  to de-
velop an alternate proposal.
  The past several months of our efforts  have been devoted to
the conceptualizing of  a  scheme that  has as  its major  set of
thesis that one must have to acknowledge the economic contribu-
tions of a major airport in a metropolitan area, but also one must
recognize that the  costs, the noise burdens, as  it were, must be
borne  by  several interests—as much as one can have those  bur-
dens borne as well as by the airport proprietor, as by the citizenry.
  What we intended to do is try  to develop a scheme  which at-
tempts to predict the noise exposure emanating from an airport,
contrast this with  the land uses around the  airport and  try to
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  I would prefer not to go in greater detail than providing that
overall general scheme that we have in mind. I think there is not
a matter of being secret, or obscure on this question;  I think it's
more a protocol  question. It's a matter that our prime responsi-
bility, that is, the institute for environmental quality and to the
pollution control  board, which in turn, has its responsibility to
the citizens.
  When  we have our  proposal along sufficiently, and it's going
through  an experimental  check at  the present time,  we will be
proposing to  the pollution control board this form of  a structure
of regulation which will then be subjected to their analysis,  and
then open for public hearing,  and I am sure that we will be seeing
many of you again, perhaps to advocate this particular regulatory
scheme.
  I should tell you of other matters that we are dealing with as
well, because many of you have broader noise interest than the
airport noise problem. We are being aided in our efforts by the
firm of Bolt,  Beranek and Newman. Bolt, Beranek and  Newman
have submitted to us for our analysis  and critique and ultimate
submission to the pollution  control board,  a set of regulatory
measures that deal  with other transportation noises  other than
aircraft and airports. Within  a matter of a week we would expect
to receive also a  proposal for  our analysis and critique from Bolt,
Beranek  and Newman that deals with stationary noise  sources,
property line problems.
  I think one is  always subjecting himself to some risk when he
tries to place a time scale, when he can bring all of these matters
to some  degree of maturity worthy of hearing by the  pollution
control board and the interested citizens.
  It is our hope,  although we have  a fair amount of work yet to
do, that  sometime during the early to midfall, this  package of
regulations would be submitted to the pollution control board  and
the appropriate necessary public hearings would soon grow out of
those proposals.
  I believe, Mr.  Chairman, that fairly  well summarizes what we
are and where we are at the present time. I would be wiling to
field questions. I would ask for  some  small amount  of patience
relative to the amount of details that would  be  appropriate to
convey at this time.
  Dr. MEYER. I  have  found  your presentation very  interesting
because our Agency, in preparing this report, is trying to find out,
in addition to what is going on with the Federal Government and
what industry can do, what the States and the municipalities are
doing. So this information as to an approach being taken within
existing arrangements  of the  State government is very useful  and
will be turned over,  after it's typed up, to the people in my  De-
partment who are working on this. Panel?
  Mr. MARTIN. Mr. Desmond	
  Mr. DESMOND. Yes.
  Mr. MARTIN. You indicated that BBN is preparing a report for
you now on recommendations. Of course, the Chicago ordinance
basically was written by BBN	
  Mr. DESMOND. Yes.
  Mr. MARTIN. And the levels, et cetera. Why haven't you taken
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similar, why  didn't you use the Chicago ordinance as a basis for
the State?
  Mr.  DESMOND.  Well, on advice from BBN—and  I  don't think
they were merely trying to peddle advice, there are basic differ-
ences in the standards that  one has to apply in a totally metro-
politan area  than those that one has to apply in a statewide
situation. We have taken a look at the Chicago noise ordinances,
and I think that  they have a high degree of regulatory validity.
There  are many situations which the State has to deal with that
in many cases the cities or municipalities do not have to deal with.
  I think we touch  on a broader set of noise emission settings as
we  approach it from  the statewide  angle.  There  will be some
similarities, but there are some distinctions as well, and we are
now going through the analysis of the BBN proposal, which we
received just this past week.
  Mr.  MARTIN. Let me  ask just a followup on this: is it the intent
on the state—and maybe you  can't answer this—to preempt the
Chicago ordinance?
  Mr.  DESMOND. The understanding that I have in the discussions
with Jack  Moore is that there is no real intent to preempt the
Chicago noise ordinance. As a matter of fact, the Environmental
Protection  Act and its  earlier  versions involving water quality,
essentially  stated two jurisdictions, Cook County and the rest of
the State.  The present Environmental Protection  Act does not
make such  a distinction.
  I think that what there will be is, hopefully, a degree—and
again I can't talk totally about the  State, because this is not my
jurisdiction,  but  it is  certainly true that what is  hoped  to  be
achieved is a high degree of  cooperation between the  Chicago
noise enforcing agencies and the State enforcing agencies.
  Mr.  MARTIN. One further question on  this.  Do you think that
the State  of Illinois would  care to have  a  uniform, nationwide
standard which would  preempt the State standard,  and then the
State would just have to enforce it?
  Mr.  DESMOND. Well,  I suppose I ought to turn to someone other
than me to answer that kind of a question.
  I can see the great validity in uniformity, but I guess one of
the things that really worries me about it is that different States
have different needs, and I think there ought to be some available
mechanism that lets a  State address  itself, analyze its own par-
ticular  needs in the noise control area and  develop regulations
that are responsive to those  peculiar needs of their  own State.
  What I would like to see, of course, is that the State of Illinois
take such an enormous amount of leadership in this particular
area that we could represent model kinds of regulations, but again
adapted to the individual needs of the State.
  Mr.  MARTIN. Let me ask you one more question, with that con-
cept in mind, the thing  that, the fear that I see is that every State,
if every State satisfied its own needs it would become almost an
impossibility, with the  manufacturing industry,  to provide a real
economical product.
  Mr.  DESMOND.  You have got some of that going  on right now,
have you not?
  Mr.  MARTIN. Yes, sir, because there are a multiple of different
standards being used,  and without a uniform  standard and the

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level—I am not talking one level to another, but you could pro-
liferate a high  cost vehicle for a single state	
  Mr. DESMOND. Don't you see a—don't you see a certain amount
of uniformity creeping into this, even though States are doing it
singly, one notes that many States  looked very, very closely at
what was going on in California in noise control regulations.
  Vehicular automotive noise standards began to be developed;
manufacturers  immediately started  putting a noise package  on
automobiles that were delivered into  California.
  Another state adopts the same standard  in replication of the
California standard; therefore, the noise package is also sent to
that State.
  One or two more States adopt a standard that has  a high proba-
bility of being similar to the  California  standard, then the entire
automotive industry will probably move and uniformly equip  all
of them, irrespective of what State  they go into, irrespective of
whether they have regulation or not, that same noise package.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, if I might comment before moving on to the
next witness, one of the things that the legislation  now pending
before the Congress envisions is that the Federal Government set
standards. And the States would enact use restrictions that may
be put into effect in a number of ways.
  One of the great dangers occurring with a variety of State
standards is that one of them may  be predicated upon the best
knowledge available as to the law of the possible	
  Mr. DESMOND. Yes.
  Dr. MEYER. By discussion with industry and others at arriving
at one conclusion as to the law of what is possible. This might be
a completely different  conclusion than the one that the Federal
Government, with its much  greater ability to bring together a
variety of national experts in a different arena, can arrive at. And
I think you have to keep in mind that to a large extent the  Cali-
fornia law represents,  based  on  the  testimony we have heard in
Atlanta here as far as vehicles are concerned, somewhat approxi-
mated the law of the possible. So it may be that by doing this you
do not arrive at the best value judgment as to what can be  done
in the future or what can be done right now  in a rational  way.
Thank you very much.
  Professor PLACER. Mr. Chairman, just one quick point, a follow-
up  on your point,  which I thought was  an excellent one. The
problem there,  this preemption in uniform problem  has been one
that has run through these hearings,  and I think  it important
that the record  be as complete as we  can make it on this.
  Mr. Desmond, perhaps one  problem I would like to get your re-
action to, this idea, perhaps one problem is  that preemption and
uniformity are  very high level of abstractions in generalities, and
as our chairman has just indicated, one set of distinctions can be
made on the basis of use activities versus manufacturing qualifica-
tions and standards.
  Perhaps another way of slicing it, and again I would like  your
reaction  to the  idea, is perhaps  we need  to  look  at individual
kinds of items,  individual kinds  of uses. Some goods are central
to an  interstate commerce role in this nation, some goods are not.
Some products  are kinds that need uniformity in order to make
them  economically  feasible and desirable; others may not be, and
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both the Federal and the State Government didn't begin from an
absolute position on  either end of the scale, but rather worked
out,  over  time, agreed positions  with  respect to the kinds of
products, taking into account distribution patterns in the country;
and needs of the manufacturer, uses and all of these things, and
worked our way through this problem in a more  empirical sense
than the sweeping generalities and preemption might suggest.
  Mr. DESMOND. Yes. Well, obviously your question implies the
answer; this is eminently sensible, I agree  with you.
  Professor PLAGER.  Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you. Thank you very  much.
  Mr. DESMOND. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Is John Varble, the  mayor of Bensenville, 111., still
with us?
  Mr. VARBLE. Yes. Mr. Meyer, it's a pleasure seeing you again.
  Dr. MEYER. Yes, sir. Nice seeing you, Mr. Mayor.

   STATEMENT OF MAYOR JOHN VARBLE,  BENSONVILLE, ILL.
  Mr. VARBLE. Members of the panel, I am here representing my
community in a twofold manner, but we  are primarily interested
in the aircraft noise. I want to commend you; you are having
your meeting down here. I think you are  cowards. Why don't you
have it out at O'Hare Field? One of the inns there, were you  a
little afraid that you might not get as far  along?
  Well, I will say this, when we had a meeting there, I think Mr.
Hinton attended the meeting and we had something like 22 mayors
there, and the attorney general from the State of Illinois spoke.
The planes,  for some reason, did  not come over  that night, but
the next day they didn't know we were holding the meeting again
the next day, and it was almost impossible for us to conduct the
meeting.
  Now, I  am sure you have been  all through this before. I will
say that night I called the tower and told  them we were having
the meeting; they sent them all over George Franks' home, so
we didn't  have much to worry about, so he could argue a little
bit. My neighbors  here from  Park Ridge and Schiller Park and
Wood Dale, they all know what I am speaking about. Gentlemen,
you have  had some  excellent testimony  here, and I agree with
everything that has  been  said. This started a number of years
ago.  Lloyd met with me in Washington. At that time we were
lucky to  get one congressman to attend our meeting. The last
time we had more congressmen there than I think we had dele-
gates. This,  of course, is an exaggeration, but at least we have
always felt that this is a matter that has to  come from the Federal
level—with all  due respect to the State  help, and that we need
every bit that we can get, we feel that the laws have to be enacted
in the halls of Congress to alleviate this condition which we deem
most serious with the aircraft noise.
  Frankly, I don't know*the rate of climb, this is just a temporary
measure, in  my own personal belief—and  those that I have met
with, for many, many years, and this is not a johnny-come-lately
thing with us, I don't feel that there can  be any answer to it, but
just retrofitting the engines, and that is where they—that is where
she boils down to,  and that is just the problem the way I see it,
it's no more than putting a muffler on a Ford, as I have said, and
they can't change my mind on this, and we have the expert knowl-

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 edge, and we have had the men who have testified at many hear-
 ings, and I told you, Dr. Meyer, in Washington, your office being
 set up was one of the greatest things that we have had, because
 now we feel instead of the runaround through the FAA—and I
 respect their ability—but there was no one set up to listen to our
 complaint about the noise of aircraft.
   Now, try to sell a downstate legislature the noise program here
 in Chicago, when they are worried about the corn  blight, they
 could care less about the noise plight here, or the same thing in
 Nebraska,  the senator out there.
   We have had, as I say, many meetings. We have listened to all
 of these preliminary, or this idea of what can be accomplished, and
 moving people  out of their homes  and buying the land,  and I said
 this Utopian dream of having a  wasteland around the  airport,
 which is just not feasible,  and it's not going to be, and if  you
 think so you better think again, and I will tell you what the whole
 story is, and this  is the way it's got to be approached.
   The name of the game is politics, and when we went to Washing-
 ton 3 years ago I sat right in the  Senator's office and told him
 that,  and from then on we  have had a most remarkable rapport
 with  our Senators.  Let's put it  that way, I will say that the
 people—and you have heard them  state this, the lady from Minne-
 apolis and  George  Franks who talked up here—I am sorry I didn't
 get to hear all  of it, but I think that these people point out very,
 very firmly that the people have had  it,  and when they do, they
 want to be listened to.
   Now, they will either change their Representatives in Congress,
 or they will change  their  Senators, and this  is  going  to be a
 political issue in the years to come. Now, it hasn't been, but it's
 going to be that, I can assure you, so for this panel today I know
 that our pollution  experts talked to you. I did not come  up here to
 try to talk engineering matters to you.
   You gentlemen  are far more capable than I am on that, but I
 will just tell you the bare facts of this thing, the way  that I see
 them, and  that is  to try to  have  Federal enactment of laws pre-
 empting—I am not so certain that this  cannot be done—I know
 that Illinois is  making strides, and has made tremendous strides
 in it, and I am familiar with California, and I am also familiar
 with  Massachusetts  and their rule  that was just  passed. Lloyd,
 you saw that today, and I am very familiar with New York State,
 so all in all what  we are trying to dp, and this is  what your de-
 partment most hopefully will succeed in accomplishing, is comprise
 this thing,  and  get it back into Congress where it belongs.
   May I ask you if you received, Lloyd, did you supply Dr. Meyer's
 office, which we passed at the national meeting, the four points
 that we wanted taken up by resolution?
   Mr. HINTON. Yes, he has them.
   (The resolution  referred to  above is as follows:)
  NATIONAL  ORGANIZATION TO INSURE A SOUND-CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT
                       RESOLUTION  NO. 1-71
  To be considered for adoption  at the annual meeting in Washington, B.C.,
 May 19, 1971.
  In re: Federal certification of airports with respect to the  nature and
 number of operations and the resultant aircraft noise exposure.
  To:  The President, the Congress, the  Chairman of the President's Council
on Environmental Quality, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary
of the Housing and Urban Development, the Chairman of the  Civil Aero-

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nautics Board, the Director of the Environmental Protection Agency and the
Administrator of the Federal Aviation  Administration.
  1. Whereas, Pursuant to enactment of the Aircraft Noise Certification Act
of 1968  (Public  Law 90-411), the Congress determined that noise occurring
due to the operation of jet aircraft constitutes serious derogation of environ-
mental quality in hundreds of communities in the United States, and
  2. Whereas, Pursuant to enactment of the Department of Transportation
Act of 1966, the Housing  and Urban  Development Act of 1968, the National
Environmental Policy Act of 1969, the Airport and  Airway  Development Act
of 1970,  et cetera,  the Congress has established a  requirement  for  the  in-
clusion of relevant  environmental factors in the further development of the
national airport  system, and
  3. Whereas, Pursuant to  enactment of the Airport and  Airway Develop-
ment Act of  1970,  the  Congress  established  the  requirement  that  safety
standards be adopted as criterion for civil airport certification,  and
  4. Whereas, Pursuant  to  enactment of the Aircraft Noise  Certification
Act of 1968  (Public Law 90-411) the  Congress expressed its desire to  provide
"both present and future" relief of high aircraft noise levels,  and
  5. Whereas, The aircraft engine and airplane manufacturers, the NASA
and  the PAA have developed engine  and aircraft designs which are  quieter
than  previous aircraft and have  developed and are developing operating-
procedures for takeoff and landing which produce less noise under the flight
paths than present aircraft, and the  benefits of some of these developments
have  been known for several years  and have  not been utilized in  airline
aircraft design  and operating procedures.
  Therefore,  Be it resolved  that the Congress be petitioned to amend Public
Law 91-258 (the Airport and Airway Act of 1970) by adding to the safety
requirements for  civil  airport  certification  the  requirement that specified
aircraft noise exposure forecast (NEF)  contours  near  takeoff and  landing
flight paths be limited to  locations within specified boundaries, and, further,
  Be it resolved that the amendment also require that in the future a scheduled
step by step reduction of aircraft NEF levels within the specified boundaries
be achieved as a condition  for  the retention of  existing air transportation
services.
  Approved,  this 19th day of May 1971.
                                                RALPH G. CASO,
                                                             President.
                                               JOHN  C.  VARBLE,
                                                             Secretary.
                                                STANLEY W. OLSON,
                                                             Treasurer.

                           RESOLUTION NO.  2-71
  To be considered for adoption at the annual meeting in Washington, D.C.,
May 19,  1971.
  In re:  A Federal Government requirement for jet aircraft operating pro-
cedures and other measures necessary for the abatement of noise.
  To: The President, the  Congress, the Chairman of the President's  Council
on  Environmental  Quality,  the  Secretary of Transportation, the Chairman
of the Civil Aeronautics Board,  the Director of the  Environmental Protection
Agency, and the Administrator  of the  Federal Aviation Administration.
  1. Whereas, Pursuant to enactment of the Aircraft Noise Certification Act
of 1968 (Public Law 90-411), the  Congress  determined  that noise occurring
due to the operation of jet aircraft constitutes serious derogation of environ-
mental quality in hundreds of communities in the  United States, and
  2. Whereas, Pursuant to  enactment of the Department of  Transportation
Act of 1966,  the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1968,  the National
Environmental Policy Act of 1969, and the Airport and Airway Development
Act of 1970, the Congress has established a requirement for the inclusion of
all  relevant  environmental  factors in  further development of  the national
airport system, and
  3. Whereas, It has long  been established that the manner in which jet
aircraft are  operated during takeoff  and landing has significant effect upon
noise exposure heard on  the ground, with such procedures designed for re-
duced noise not  derogating safety, and
  4. Whereas, In  1965, the  President  established  the Interagency  Aircraft
Noise  Abatement  Program  through  which aircraft operating procedures,
number of day and night jet operations and other measures  were  identified as
having both  short  and long term  benefits in reducing noise exposure upon
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  5.  Whereas, The report  of the President's  Airport  Commission (Doolittle
Commission 1952), together with the report of the Task Force  on National
Aviation  Goals,  1961-70  (Project  Horizon), each  identified  the growing
problem  of community exposure to  high aircraft  noise levels  and  recom-
mended measures needed to reduce existing noise problems as well as prevent
their arising in the future, and
  6.  Whereas, Through enactment  of  Public  Law 90-411 in 1968, the  Con-
gress expressed its intention that the Federal Aviation Administration would
implement measures  needed  for "present" as well as "future" relief from
excessive exposure to aircraft noise, and
  7.  Whereas, The Federal Aviation  Administration  is  unable  to meet  its
responsibility  for  "the  protection of persons and property on the ground"
(Federal  Aviation Act of 1958, Section  307 (c)) due  to  its primary and
pervasive mission  of  promoting air commerce resulting in  exclusion  of con-
sideration of environmental quality, now
  Therefore, Be it resolved that Congress is hereby petitioned to authorize
and  require the Environmental Protection Agency to establish, for the relief
of airport neighbors,  noise exposure forecast (NEF) contours which must be
maintained  within specified boundaries near  airports, after consulting  with
the  President's  Council on Environmental Quality, the Secretaries  of the
Departments of Housing  and  Urban Development, Health, Education and
Welfare, Interior, and Transportation and the Chairman of the  Civil Aero-
nautics Board.
  Approved, this 19th day of May  1971.
                                                RALPH G. CASO,
                                                             President.
                                                JOHN C.  VARBLE,
                                                             Secretary.
                                                STANLEY W. OLSON,
                                                             Treasurer.

                          RESOLUTION NO. 3-71
  To be considered for  adoption at the annual meeting in Washington, D.C.,
May 19, 1971.
  In re:  Acoustic retrofit of existing civil jet aircraft.
  To:  The President, the Congress, the Chairman of the President's Council
on Environmental Quality, the Secretary  of Transportation, the Secretary of
the Housing and Urban Development, the Chairman of the  Civil  Aeronautics
Board, the  Director  of the Environmental Protection Agency  and the Ad-
ministrator of the Federal Aviation Agency.
  1.  Whereas, Pursuant to enactment of the Aircraft Noise  Certification Act
of 1968 (Public  Law  90-411),  the Congress  determined  that noise occurring
due to  the operation of  jet aircraft constitutes serious derogation of environ-
mental quality in hundreds of communities in the United States,  and
  2.  Whereas, Pursuant to enactment of the Department of Transportation
Act  of 1966, the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1968, the National
Environmental Policy Act  of 1969, and the Airport and Airway Development
Act  of 1970, the Congress  has  established a requirement for the inclusion of
all relevant environmental factors in further development of the national
airport system, and
  3.  Whereas, The National Aeronautics and  Space Administration, and
others  have determined the technical and economic feasibility of acoustically
retrofitting existing civil aircraft engine nacelles thereby providing substantial
noise reduction particularly during  approach to landing and most noisy phase
of flight, and
  4.  Whereas, Through investigation of  a variety of measures  applicable to
the resolution of  airport/community's problems arising  from high aircraft
noise exposure levels, NOISE  has  determined that no one  measure such  as
acoustic  retrofit will  in itself resolve the airport/community problems  at-
tributable to aircraft noise, now
  Therefore, Be it resolved that the Congress be  petitioned  to authorize and
require that the Environmental Protection Agency establish NEF limits in
areas near  airports with the full recognition of  the benefits to be attained
through  the application of acoustic  retrofit, together with other measures
which  can be taken to reduce aircraft noise, and
  Be it further  resolved that in recognition of the economic impact of  such
a program, all  methods of financing including a surcharge to  be  applied

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directly to the users of air transportation services, be explored by the CAB.
  Approved,  the  19th  day of May, 1971.
                                                RALPH G. CASO,
                                                JOHN C. VARBLE,
                                                             Secretary.
                                                STANLEY W. OLSON,
                                                             Treasurer.

                          RESOLUTION NO. 4-71

  To be considered for adoption at the annual meeting in Washington, D.C.,
May 19, 1971.
  In re:  Responsibility for the protection of residents from exposure  to high
aircraft noise levels.
  To:  NOISE membership and other concerned airport/community officials.
  1. Whereas, NOISE was established to investigate and seek implementation
of  all  available  measures for the  relief of aircraft  noise exposure  upon
airport/community residents, and
  2. Whereas, Through investigation of all  applicable  measures needed to
reduce airport/community exposure  to high aircraft  noise levels,  NOISE
has determined that  controls upon land  use  development in the vicinity of
major  airports are essential, and
  3. Whereas,  NOISE has  determined that it is  necessary to  implement
local, regional and statewide land use controls, and
  4. Whereas, Even though municipal, regional and state officials are aware
of the  existence of derogatory environmental factors associated with aircraft
operations near  major airports  they have  been unable to persuade the
governing bodies  of these local communities to establish zoning, building code
ordinances, subdivision regulations,  et cetera, to protect the people in these
areas near airports from unacceptable levels  of aircraft  noise exposure, and
  5. Whereas,  Financial  incentives  are effective in  persuading  landowners
to accept land use constraints or to make land use  conversions  thereby  re-
moving the barriers to the establishment of the local laws, codes, or ordinances
mentioned above, and
  6. Whereas, The Airport and Airways Development Act of 1970 provides a
means  whereby funds are obtained from the air transportation system for the
improvements and expansion of airports, which will then accommodate  in-
creased numbers  of  aircraft  operations  which may in turn increase the
aircraft  noise exposure in areas  near these  airports,  and
  7. Whereas, The noise exposure resulting from aircraft operations at many
airports  is higher  than considered acceptable for residential  land  use, thus
imposing  a severe burden on  those living in these high aircraft noise exposure
areas,  and
  8. Whereas,  The policy has been  established  by  the  various Government
agencies,  including DOT  and HUD  that  air transportation  must be handled
as  a system  with the economic,  social and health effects on the community
under  the takeoff and  approach flight paths being given the same  support
and protection as the aircraft  and airports, now
  1. Therefore, be it resolved that  Congress be petitioned  to amend Public
Law 91-258  (the  Airport and Airway Development Act  of  1970) by adding
the provision that  before any  funds  be made available for the improvement
or  expansion of  an  airport, funds  be made available  to  the  communities
surrounding  the  airport to compensate landowners for damages due  to high
aircraft noise exposure, and  further
  2. Be it resolved that as a condition of this compensation  the local  govern-
mental bodies  shall establish  zoning, building code ordinances, subdivision
regulations,  et cetera, which  will prohibit the establishment of  new non-
conforming land  uses  in  areas predicted  to be subject to high aircraft noise
exposure  levels for the foreseeable future and  will provide for the  gradual
conversion of land in the high aircraft noise exposure  areas to conforming
uses, and, further
  3. Be it resolved that (1)  a basis  for compensation for constraints on  the
use of land  in areas of high aircraft noise exposure levels, and (2) model
zoning laws, building  codes,  ordinances  and subdivision  regulations  be  de-

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veloped by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for use
in implementing the legislation called for in 1 and 2 above.
  Approved, this 19th day of May 1971.
                                        RALPH G. CASO,
                                                   President.
                                        JOHN C. VARBLE,
                                                   Secretary.
                                        STANLEY W. OLSON,
                                                   Treasurer.

  Mr. VARBLE. I would like to point out to these gentlemen, since
I haven't seen many of these, I don't know if they have had the
opportunity, I would like to close with a little story. At our sym-
posium in Los Angeles, where the lady who spoke from Beverly
Hills, and gave a very fine address, told us that they finally  routed
the planes for almost 6 months, and—rerouted the planes, and the
gentleman from El Segundo jumped up and said, "No wonder we
have  all the noise down there, and now we would like to ship it
back to Beverly Hills."
  That is about it, gentlemen. I hope that we can accomplish some-
thing, and I think your office is  our only hope to get  it through.
Look to us for the political help, please.
  Dr. MEYER. Mr. Mayor, thank you  very much. It has been a
pleasure knowing you, and we would like to have  that for the
record. Before you go, might I ask if any of my fellow panelists
could ask you a question,  if they so desire?
  Mr. VARBLE. How is your neck down there?
  Dr. WHITCOMB. Doing much better, thanks.
  Mr. VARBLE. Well, you  have been most  patient. I commend this
panel. I know it has been  tiring, a tiring 2 days for you, but again
I say, if you had held it out in  our area, just think, you would
have  had to  recess every  5 minutes.
  Mr. HINTON. I wish we had,  John;  your hospitality was mag-
nificent.
  Dr. MEYER. We welcome a visit with you, sir.
  Mr. VARBLE. Thank you, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Now,  might I ask if one  of your neighbors and
members of the executive branch of a neighbor community, if Mr.
Herman Spahr, city manager of Park Ridge, 111., will come up.
  Mr. SPAHR. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

       STATEMENT OF HERMAN SPAHR, CITY MANAGER,
                    PARK RIDGE, ILLINOIS
  Mr. SPAHR. Air, noise,  measurements and procedures.
  The city of Park  Ridge has  been monitoring aircraft  flights
originating from O'Hare International  Airport flying over the
community since 1963. In 1963, Park Ridge adopted  an ordinance
which essentially  provided that flights over portions  of the city
causing noise in excess of 95 decibels measured on a "C" weight-
ing network are a nuisance.
  To  implement the provisions of the ordinance, noise measuring
equipment was purchased. A bubble top truck was obtained in
March 1962 to provide a mobile means of checking noise levels at
various locations  throughout the city. The truck was equipped
with the sound measuring device and a radio capable of monitoring
air  traffic, and was designed so that visual observation of flying
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  This equipment is calibrated and checked for accuracy periodi-
cally in order that measurements may accurately reflect the degree
of noise  received on the ground. The sound truck and equipment
is generally operated by a member of the  Park Ridge Police De-
partment who has received  specific  training  in  the use of the
equipment.
  Analysis  of findings.—A  review of the  noise  measurements
taken during- the past 7 years indicates as  follows:
  1. The overall average during the past 3 years ranged from 78
to 105 decibels measured on a "A" weighted scale.
  2. The higher levels were present from 8 a.m.-lO a.m. and 4 p.m.
to 6:30 p.m.
  3. The areas of highest noise level were runways 9R-27L (south
end of town) and 4-22 (northwest  corner  of town).
  4. The highest frequency of aircraft flights  is generally at the
south side of Park Ridge between Higgins and Devon.
  5. The average single noise duration is 20 seconds, and during
high frequency periods, the duration is almost constant.
  In addition to the measurements taken by Park Ridge, numerous
additional observations and measurements  have been taken in the
Bensenville-Rosemont and Schiller Park area. These  communities
have  joined  together  in a  cooperative effort to determine  noise
levels in the airport communities surrounding O'Hare.
  Lyle F.  Yerges, consulting acoustical engineer,  has been  re-
tained to evaluate the noise measuring program of the city. Mr.
Yerges advises as follows:
  1. The measurement techniques of Park Ridge officials are sufficiently good
to permit us to use their data.
  Our own measurements indicate that the Park Ridge dBA data tend to
run  about 2 db high. As a result, in our statistical analysis of the accumulated
Park Ridge data, we have arbitrarily reduced all of their measurements by
2%  dB. This means that we are on the safe side in drawing any conclusions
from the collected data.
  2. The Park Ridge data, and our own measurements  in equivalent locations
over the past  3 years, indicate that the areas of most severe noise complaints
are  subjected to noise levels of  85 dBA or over at least during one-third or
more of the fly-overs on the principal east-west runway over O'Hare Plaza
(the southeast corner of Park Ridge) ;  similar  or higher levels in other
northeast-southwest runway; and, during other periods which elicit citizen
complaints, to levels of 5 to 10 db higher than this.
  In simple terms, complaints appear completely  justified since levels  which
evoke complaints are equal to or in excess of the  85 dBA critical or danger
level.

  At  our request,  Mr. Yerges has made  an  extensive study of
available literature on hearing effects and  damage  from noise.
He  advises us that while it  is difficult to find  the type of dramatic
unequivocal  cause  and effect  results which  would clearly indict
noise  as dangerous or damaging, it is difficult to find any authority
who does not accept 85 dBA as potentially  damaging, definitely
annoying, interfering with  speech communication, and a level un-
acceptable for normal human activities.
  Our experts advise us that the  level of 85 dBA is so firmly
established  as a critical and almost certainly dangerous or damag-
ing level in all available literature, that it appears possible to build
a substantial case around it.
  It is our opinion and we believe that a simply, easily demon-
strated case can be made to show that present aircraft operations
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levels  and that the proposed  plans for additional  runways at
O'Hare will  increase the exposure levels and  the  affected geo-
graphical area.
  Effects of aircraft  related noises  on district 64  elementary
schools:  The education of children  involves a communicative pro-
cess of oral,  audio, and  visual faculties in  various  combinations
for each of the areas of learning. The educational enterprise must,
however, serve  the community by performing the  educational
service so that it is readily available to the young and geographi-
cally  accessible. Due to the encompassing  circumstances neces-
sary to serve the purposes of education, safety and convenience,
the schools of Park Ridge-Niles district 64 find the  inconsistency
and high level of noise pollution attributable to the expansion  and
lack of pattern control at O'Hare International Airport becoming
increasingly  less tolerant in the educational setting.
  Four of the district's  12  schools occupy positions within close
proximity to the landing and takeoff corridors  resulting from the
placement of O'Hare runways. Observations, questions, and sug-
gestions from the administration and staff of several  elementary
schools—Edison, Merrill, Franklin, and Madison—were sought in
response to the problems created by the noises.
  In general  it was determined that modifications in the teachers'
approach to  instruction are necessary. Given the different modes
of communication as oral, auditory, and visual, and the necessity
of the communication in the education process, teachers have  had
to vary  the  approach  according to the noise  level. Particularly
where a combination of verbal and auditory faculties  are needed,
the teacher is forced either to shout or, by preference, to discon-
tinue communication until the noise subsides. Valuable instruc-
tional time is lost and crucial learning activities reaching an apex
are set adrift as concentration is broken and young minds wander
to the source.
  The subject areas most often affected are those involving  dis-
cussion and  oral presentation.  This would include a majority of
the pupil-teacher  and pupil-pupil  communications  necessary to
instruction in the education process.
  Some areas particularly affected by the noise are reading, social
studies, and language arts, the major subject matter areas.
  In attempts at ascertaining the periods during which nights are
most disruptive  and require modifying the teachers' approach or
presentation, efforts have been thwarted by the inconsistency of
the flight pattern. That is to say that the intervals between planes
have been observed to be intermittent while the takeoff and land-
ing directions tend to be irregular with some planes flying di-
rectly overhead, other  along somewhat defined corridors like the
Kennedy Expressway.
  Seasons of the year when windows are wide open or even nar-
rowly  cracked and when physical  education classes are outside,
generally spring and autumn, are the times when instruction  and
the learning process are most often disrupted.
  Outside physical education classes must be  instructed before,
after, or between flights at some schools, due to the noise factor.
When classroom windows are open for ventilation purposes,  the
noise presents a  continual interruption and requires visually
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  During the bimonthly meeting of the board of education in
district 64,  noise  pollution like that in the school day has been
experienced. In point  of fact,  meetings  scheduled for  Edison
School on the second and fourth Tuesdays during the spring and
summer of 1968 were changed to another location for this reason.
  Similarly, meetings held in the autumn of 1970 were interfered
with by the noise of passing flights to the extent that the board
member or  other persons speaking stopped until  the noise had
subsided sufficiently  so that they  could be  heard.  In relation to
this, the board of education submitted letters opposing the further
expansion of O'Hare International Airport to the airport authori-
ties and to the city council of Park Ridge.
  The noise pollution problem has been recognized by the parent
organizations of the  neighborhood schools and they in turn have
sent expressions  of their feelings  to the local  school board, city,
State, and Federal governmental bodies in this  regard.
  It is apparent that the schools have no solution to this problem.
It is deemed one which requires knowledge of aerodynamics and
equipment performance, a field in which we contribute only the
tools for learning. However, in behalf of the students and teachers
of Park Ridge-Niles district  64, we submit that we are making
every effort to perform our function within  the  environmental
circumstances, and we further submit that the noise level can be
contained within more reasonable limits if efforts in this direction
are undertaken.
  Evaluation of noise findings and suggested approach to measure
noise levels: Mr. Yerges, our consulting acoustical engineer, ad-
vises  us that all  studies and all known forecast methods clearly
and unequivocably forecast an increase in the areas  affected by
such levels and subjected to them, and all studies appear to con-
firm that levels in presently complaining areas will increase, par-
ticularly if  the  new proposed  southwest-northeast  runway at
Chicago International Airport is put into operations.
  In other words, it is our opinion in consulting with our experts
that present areas will be increasingly subjected to noise of equal
or higher levels than that reported today and additional areas will
be subject to noise to at least the noise of  the level now experi-
enced in the presently complaining areas.
  We are basically concerned with the establishment of noise levels
realistically designed to protect our residents from  dangerous and
damaging noise exposure.
  Mr.  Yerges, at our request, has  evaluated the various proposed
noise measuring and rating systems of the State of  California, the
Illinois Pollution Control Board and Inglewood, Calif. Mr. Yerges
reports to us as follows:
  (a)  We are always  dubious about such complex  procedures, involving
expensive and complex  equipment, calculations,  et cetera.  Such procedures
always  suggest the  need for true experts to accomplish the procedures and
make the measurements. This enormously weakens the ability of ordinary
enforcement personnel or  operating personnel to control  the  problem—so
they tend to ignore it.
  As far back as 1955  the city of Milwaukee  even considered  a simple 90
dBA top limit for truck  noise at the street curb to be too complex to enforce,
since it "* *  * required every policeman to handle and be able  to use cor-
rectly *  * *" a simple  sound level meter.  The proposed CNEL, et cetera,
procedures may terrify even a sophisticated enforcement group.
  (b)  We are always suspicious of averages or summations which  tend to
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said, it  is much  like the  man who  drowns crossing the  river of  average
depth of 18 inches.
  The integration or averaging method, even when under the program of a
well-designed data-gathering array of equipment, assumes too much. Several
short-term noise peaks, spaced many minutes  (or even hours) apart can be
most annoying and distasteful—real nuisances—while  the average  or  inte-
grated level may  be quite low.  We usually  find ourselves disturbed and
annoyed and districted for several minutes following a disturbing incident,
however short  lived  it may be.
  In a word, the averaging or integration  method may only obfuscate and
disguise the real seriousness or effects of the noise incidents.
  (c) The proposed  procedures do not seem to take into  consideration the
seasonal or weather-oriented  aspects of the problem.  The average  annual
levels still do not recognize that, in temperate climates, people live out-of-
doors in late  spring, summer, and  early autumn. We can't enclose or air
condition our yards or our outdoors recreation areas so we will suffer con-
siderable annoyance whenever outside of our homes, in spite of having well
sound-conditioned homes with fixed double-glazed windows and air condition-
ing.
  In short, the degradation of our natural  environment by overflights is not
really reflected in most of the figures.  Perhaps it  is  felt that sleep,  com-
munication, and such activities are the only important considerations; but
suburban life  includes the out-of-doors, too.
  (d) From over 30 years' experience with the type  of measuring equipment
and  procedures specified, we cannot  disguise our serious  doubts about the
whole complex situation  proposed.  The equipment is sensitive, delicate,
expensive, subject to  damage, constantly in need of calibration, et cetera. We
can see legal counsel for an airlines or airport operator literally throwing
any  valid complaint  out of court if it  is  based  upon the automatic data-
gathering equipment, without constant  or  continuous  supervision of some
competent human.

  After discussing the  matter with our experts and reviewing our
own noise monitoring procedures, it  is our opinion that much of
the  proposed procedure in the California  statute  and ordinance
and in the proposed standards of the Illinois  Pollution Control
Board are really unnecessary.
  From the airport location,  prevailing winds, neighborhood  lay-
out  and geography and types of equipment operated, we are able
to predict quite accurately what exposure will be anticipated any-
where in a given  community on the basis of the  operating pro-
cedures for the particular aircraft. They must travel a known path,
at a known height, under known power  settings.
  Thus, we  know in advance what to expect under almost  any
flight path. Therefore, the "Noise Impact Areas and Noise Impact
Boundaries" can be reasonably predicted which is, of course, made
clear in the proposed ordinances  and standards. Why not, then,
simply  insist that within each outlined area, no  overflight shall
cause a sound level to exceed some reasonable dBA figure?
  After all, this,  in its naive  simplicity, accomplishes precisely
what is included in  all of the other complex  procedures.
  On this basis, an intelligent  officer or operator  with a simple,
low  cost sound level meter, can check  and determine at any given
time whether there are violations. In other words,  what is  wrong
with what Park Ridge is doing now?
  If automation is required, it would be simple  to  locate an auto-
matic  level recorder at each boundary  line to  trigger with  any
excess  noise, record the  time,  and  make  identification of  the
offending aircraft.
  It is our opinion  that we  do not need the complex averaging
equipment and procedures; that they accomplish little or nothing,
not better accomplished by more simpler approaches. Further, it
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potential method of continual controversy or manipulation.
  While Yerges, in this respect, reports to us as follows:

  It is his opinion and he believes that "pilots, airport operators, municipal
law enforcement  officers, and all personnel involved in  this aircraft noise
problem should be able to understand, measure, and evaluate, as well as
control, the controllable and measurable factors. Only then can we expect
them to cooperate to mitigate the noise problem and abate the nuisance of
noise. We must avoid designing a new and interesting 'game' of 'beat the
meter' inherent in the proposed ordinances  and standards—a temptation too
appealing to ignore, as we see it."

  The city of Inglewood  ordinance makes a  great deal of sense
in its inherent simplicity and philosophy. It might be a  bit too
lenient, but it  is  the type of code which will likely stand court
tests  and challenges; and  it  should appreciably control noise
nuisance,  if enforced. With some editing, it could be made most
acceptable.
  To summarize our position in reference to any proposed stand-
ards, our comments are as follows:
  1. Well established criteria include some means  of limiting noise
at any time, even for short duration, to 85 dBA maximum. Energy
averaging or similar integration procedures probably do tend to
predict hearing damage, but they do not define  annoyance, nui-
sance, or other subjective effects.
  2. It is simple to measure  noise levels in dBA with simple, low
cost equipment, which can be operated by competent law enforce-
ment personnel; or to automate such measurement  quite  simply.
  3. It is simple to forecast noise exposures on the ground when-
ever airport configuration and aircraft type and  operational pro-
cedures are known. Thus, it is possible, without any  measurement
procedure at all, to establish the operating parameters of aircraft,
the airport layout (especially runway direction and orientation),
and to determine zoning areas near the airport in advance.
  This would tend to preclude the need for much of the proposed
complex measuring procedure; and it would go a long way toward
avoiding the nuisance of noise.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much,  sir. I gather from the thrust
of your statement here that part of the problem are the many
different,  and  someimes  extremely complicated,  procedures for
specifying noise measurements	
  Mr. SPAHE. That's correct, right.
  Dr. MEYER. And that you are making a strong plea for some
uniformly  acceptable,   relatively  readily  understandable  ap-
proaches.
  Mr.  SPAHR.  Yes, and we  realize that any standards that are
established will require someone to enforce them, and local munici-
palities normally do not have acoustical engineers on their staff. It
must be something that can be readily measured, and a determina-
tion made as to whether or not violations have occurred. Our con-
sultant feels that a dBA standard suggesting 85, in  particular, is
an  appropriate one,  and one that can easily  be determined with
relatively inexpensive  and easily operated equipment.
  Dr. MEYER. Panel?
  Mr. HINTON. Mr. Spahr, I  know—I knew your predecessor very
well, Jim Galloway,  as we both served on the President's White
House Panel on Aircraft Noise. I would like to endorse your com-
ments regarding measurement techniques that you have described.
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Can you attribute to the use of monitoring equipment by Park
Ridge any measurable relief,  either from aircraft or from surface
noise sources from the use of your equipment?
  Mr. SPAHR. The city of Park Ridge has never issued any viola-
tions based  on its existing ordinance. At this time the measure-
ments  that  we  do,  or  are  continuing  to accumulate, are  used
pretty much to build a case as to the violation.  We have made no
effort at his point to bring any of the airports or airlines into a
court on a specific action of a particular flight flying over the city
of Park Ridge.
  Mr. HINTON. It's quite apparent that your ability  to measure
noise does not include an ability to conrol the noise.
  Mr. SPAHR. Yes, right.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir.
  I would now like to ask Mr. George Dayiantis of the Far North-
west Community Association, who is among those who have  also
been very patient, to come forward.

     STATEMENT OF GEORGE DAYIANTIS, FAR NORTHWEST
                 COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION
  Mr.  DAYIANTIS. Our membership is  directly affected by the
dangerous level of noise pollution which is caused by the  jets
using O'Hare. I had some misgivings relative to appearing before
this committee today, for it  appears that there are three condi-
tions existing which have caused the public to show little interest
in public hearings.
  One, the hearings are too often held away from the location of
the problem. The hearing should have been held in our community
of the 41st  ward; Taft  High School would have been an ideal
location. The noise pollution would have been most obvious.
  Two,  nothing will be done unless it has political overtones, or
some serious mishap occurs.
  Three, hearings  are held to allow  citizens  to  release their
frustrations.
  I would like to digress because by the way Dr. Meyer and the
rest of the panelists have acted, it appears that we have a recep-
tive group of men, and I am looking forward to  some action. With
these conditions as prerequisites to one's involvement, people have
become  apathetic. I doubt if this is the goal  of a  democratic
society.
  With over 200 organizations in our  area, there is a meager
representation at these hearings,  and that is the reason I  listed
those three; people have become quite depressed.
  Dr. Meyer,  I wonder if our Federal and  State legislators  and
city council  members sincerely care about the health and welfare
of the citizenry. Do they really care about the  hazard to the un-
born? For it has been in some scientific publications expressed that
there is a possibility for noise pollution causing some damage to
the unborn.
  Normal communication in  homes is difficult to maintain, if at
all. Homes suffer damage, both inside and out. Schools in the area
have difficulty functioning properly. Is this the price we must pay
for our technological advancement in our desire to speed from
one  place to another? Installation  of necessary noise  control de-
vices must become a reality.
  Ironically, tax money through Federal support is being used to
subsidize this noise pollution. We realize  flight  schedules  are

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planned for convenience, but to provide this for the minority at
the expense  of  the health and safety of the majority is incon-
sistent. Here I would add, if you and I have a son or daughter and
they were requested to write a report by their respective teachers,
and they wanted them to write this report on noise pollution, the
causes and the solutions, would we accept some of the excuses that
are being offered today?
  I only hope that these hearings are not an exercise in futility
for those most adversely affected by the noise, and I would like—I
hope I am not putting you on the spot, Dr. Meyer, but you, as the
chairman of this most worthwhile group, I hope that you will con-
tinually and publicly state  that the time  is now,  that measures
must be implemented now to control the noise by jets, and from
any other sources if we are  to be able to live in a society  that we
would want for ourselves and our future generations. Thank you
very much.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank  you, sir, and I appreciate your  comments
regarding hearings; I can assure you  this one is one  in which we
are trying to  get information with which to do something.
  Mr. DAYIANTIS. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. I  think you have given a lot of food for thought for
some  of my colleagues in all levels of government. Thank you
very much for being so forthright, sir.
  Mr. DAYIANTIS. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. We  are, as you know,  running  somewhat behind
schedule here for a variety of reasons, and as I look at the list of
prospective speakers  I see we still  have Elizabeth Lewis, repre-
senting  the Northwestern Students for a  Better Environment;
Mrs. Laura  Fermi; Areta  Psyk; Georgia  Horowitz; Mr. Omar
Marcus; Richard Blomberg;  Ted Decca; Tom Hamilton; John
Kerrigan; Wendell P. Berwick; some representatives  of the
Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen;  and Mr. Vernon Lindahl. I
intend to take people in that order and, as I said, there were some
reasons  why some of these folks had to make  specific changes.
  As I said, I am determined to hear from everybody,  because they
have asked to be here, and it  is my job. And as I have also indicated,
in each  of these presentations we learn something of great use to
us, so if Elizabeth Lewis would please come up, I will be delighted
to hear  from  her, as will the rest of the panel.
  Miss LEWIS Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. You have been a patient young lady.

 STATEMENT OF ELIZABETH LEWIS, NORTHWESTERN STUDENTS
                FOR A BETTER ENVIRONMENT
  Miss LEWIS. This statement is based on information presented
in volume I and in preliminary drafts to volume II of a study en-
titled "Comprehensive Plan  for the North Lakeview Section of the
Uptown Model Cities Area."
  This study, financed by grants from the Sloan Foundation and
the National Science  Foundation,  was undertaken  by students
working through the  Urban Systems Engineering Center and the
Design and Development Center both at Northwestern University.
  Noise  pollution in  North Lakeview affects many patterns of
human existence. But, its effects on safety and education are the
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  Several crossing guards were interviewed for this study. One
said, "The kids cannot hear me; they watch my gloves  for direc-
tions." It was observed that children could  not hear approaching
cars and that noise from the elevated trains of the CTA frightened
them. But the physical danger of crossing these streets, though
real, is brief. A much  more serious danger with many unknown
effects is disruption of the classrooms by the noise polluters.
  At  Greeley Elementary School, noise levels hurt the educa-
tional process. The back side of the school faces the elevated. CTA
noise  disrupts classes on all three floors of the school on the side
facing the rapid transit tracks.  Classrooms on the opposite side
of the building are not disrupted. When windows were left open
on the side next to the tracks, meters recorded train noise levels
at or  above 90  dBA  levels. When warm weather approaches, the
teachers  will be faced with the cruel dilemma of either closing the
windows and enduring the heat  or opening the windows and en-
during the noise.
  The following noise  levels were recorded at Greeley:
  Playground:  102 to 106 dBA.
  Third  floor room (back side of building): 90 to 94 dBA with
windows open and 70 to 78 dBA with windows closed.
  Second floor room (front):  84 dBA with windows open, 70
dBA with windows closed.
  Library (which is under the gym): 88 to 90 dBA, since the gym
contributed to the disruptive sound.
  In addition noise pollution is a result of street traffic. Ambient
noise  levels in other parts of the study area are as follows:
  Seminary-Eddy: 75 to 85  dBA, Racine-Clark:  80 to  85 dBA.
  Clark and Irving Park: 80 to 90  dBA, Addison  and  Sheffield:
80 to  90 dBA.
  Clark and Addison:  80 to 90 dBA, Irving Park and Sheridan:
100 to 105 dBA.
  NSBE makes the  following recommendations in light of the
preceding comments about the  level of noise generated in one
Chicago community area.
  The Walsh-Healy Act should be amended so workers are better
protected from hazardous noise levels. The present law  allows 90
dBA levels for an 8 hour duration. But, auditory damage will
occur at  this  noise intensity  level.
  NSBE recommends the adoption of 80 dBA, as proposed by the
New York State quiet communities program, as a maximum level
for prolonged periods. Thus, the amended Federal Level Act would
require 80 dBA maximum for an 8 hour period and not 90 dBA
as at present.
  Also the Walsh-Healy Act is too limited in scope. The act covers
only those employed  by companies holding Federal contracts in
excess of $10,000. Amendments should be added  to control  noise
in areas where such levels present health hazards.
  Second, EPA should  adopt sound transmission class levels. The
STC level is the level of sound which building materials baffle. If
a measurement outside a building is  100 dBA while the meter
records  60 dBA in the building, then  the building has an STC
level of 40. Oak Park, a Chicago suburb, has  a code that  could
serve  as  a model for establishing STC levels. The specific section
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  EPA should  adopt STC levels for building materials that will
reduce noise levels below the 80 dBA level.
  Third,  EPA  should perform  additional  research on the effec-
tiveness of baffles and concrete supports which are used for noise
abatement around CTA tracks.
  Preliminary  results from  tests which NU's students performed
on  baffles and  concrete supports show these modifications have
negligible effects on the dBA  levels. Peak levels  of 98 to  99 dBA
were recorded both with and without concrete supports and baffles.
These  supports, line both sides of a quarter mile stretch of the
Englewood Rapid Transit line from Ashland to  Racine. The cost
for these baffles is $33 per lineal foot. The overall cost for baffle
material  alone  on this stretch of track is $86,000.
  Finally, a new friction reducing compound should be deyeloped.
This compound will help  reduce noise resulting from rail-wheel
interaction on  the elevated tracks. Replacing existing track to
reduce noise  levels would  be expensive. A  practical means of re-
ducing such noise would be development of a noise abating coating
that could be applied to the wheels of a train and/or track.
  Correspondence with the Dow Chemical  Co. indicates this may
be  an  innovative means of reducing noise. Also, a  Dow repre-
sentative says development of a  product with the desired qualities
of abrasion  resistance and adhesion may be technically feasible.
A demonstration grant  from  the Federal  Government may lead
to an inexpensive means of  reducing decibel levels.

  THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT WAS PREPARED FOR THE  NOISE POLLUTION
    HEARINGS SPONSORED BY THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL  PROTECTION
    AGENCY ON JULY 28 AND 29,  1971 AT THE SHERATON-CHICAGO HOTEL,
                           CHICAGO, ILL.
                          I. INTRODUCTION
  We are happy to acknowledge that most of the information to be presented
was culled from the environmental control section of volume I and  the  pre-
liminary draft to  volume II of the Comprehensive Plan for the North Lake-
view Section of the Uptown Model Cities Area.
  These  volumes  are the result of  a study performed under support from a
Sloan Foundation grant to the  Desig'n and Development Center of North-
western University and a National Science  Foundation grant to the Urban
Systems Engineering Center of  Northwestern  University. References from
other sources are  cited as they appear.

  II. EXAMPLES OF LEVELS OF NOISE POLLUTION IN THE NORTH LAKEVIEW AREA

  Noise pollution  in North Lakeview has broad effects on four areas of life
within the study area: (1) domestic, (2)  business, (3)  safety,  and  (4)
education.
  1.  Domestic.—Domestic tranquility is virtually nonexistent in many homes
near the CTA elevated  train tracks. One resident who has lived in the 3400
block of Sheffield  for 7  years stated,  "The trains  rock the whole apartment,
disrupt television  reception, sleep, and communication." Her family  is "used
to the noise now,  but it took some time before they were." A passing train
registered  85-95 dBA inside their apartment.
  A 48-year resident of that same block revealed that noise is  especially bad
after a rain,  which cleans  oil and grease from  the  rails of the  elevated,
leaving them dry and increasing friction. The resulting noise is intolerable
even to a veteran:  "I am used to  it, but after a rain it really gets on my
nerves." He also  noted  that rent and  CTA noise  levels do not have the ex-
pected negative correlation. A 100 dBA level, which he deemed  comparatively
"quiet" was recorded at 11 a.m.  in his garage.
  In the 1000  block of Roscoe  Street, a resident whose bed is situated 3 feet
from the elevated tracks said, "You have to sit there to believe it. You think
it's  coming right  through the room.  I have to get awfully tired to sleep."
Trains passing registered 105  dBA at 11 a.m.

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  2. Business.—To examine the effect of noise on business, several merchants
were interviewed. A watchmaker on Sheffield said he was "used to it," but he
could not talk  to his customers over the noise  from the trains. These  com-
ments were representative of the merchants who were interviewed.
  Medical facilities were also affected. At the medical building at 3355 North
Clark and the Clinic Hispana at 3934  Sheridan,  both  situated under the
tracks of the CTA, readings  of 100 to  108  dBA were recorded outside the
buildings.
  A secretary to the alderman  of the 44th ward was interviewed at the Clark
Street Democratic Organization  office.  He claimed  speakers must  pause
during speeches because  they  cannot be heard  over  the passing  elevated's
noise. An 80 dBA reading was recorded at this hall.
  3. Safety.—The safety threat of loud distractions was  made clear  by a
city of Chicago crossing guard: "The kids cannot hear me; they must watch
my white gloves for directions." The children cannot hear approaching  cars,
and the noise of the elevated obviously frightens them.
  The crossing guard felt that this situation  was  especially  dangerous for
younger  children.  Of course, the previously  mentioned threat of high  noise
levels to  the hearing capacities  of all residents who live, work or attend school
or do business in  proximity to the elevated is  a constant danger to health
and safety.
  4. Education.—At  Greeley   Elementary School it  is  evident  that   noise
levels interfere with education. The back side of the  school faces the elevated,
and CTA noise in  classrooms on this side of all three floors force temporary
pauses in class procedure. Classrooms on the front side of  the structure are
not upset. With  windows open  on the back side,  classrooms were  totally
engulfed in  90  dBA noise levels, causing  considerable  distraction. The warm
weather  will accentuate this  problem because windows  must  then be  kept
open. The following noise levels were recorded at Greeley:
  Playground:  102 to 106 dBA; third floor room  (back) : 90 to 94 dBA with
window open and 70 to 78 dBA with window closed; second floor room (front) :
84 dBA with window open, 70  dBA with  window closed;  and library (under
gym) : 88 to 90 dBA.
  Thus Greeley has an additional, unique noise  problem: the gymnasium is
located directly above the  library. A fast break  in  a basketball game above
registered a very disturbing 88 to 90 dBA level  in the library.
  Teachers  interviewed all agreed that the  elevated  seriously disrupts the
educational  process. Disruption is much greater with windows open and on
the side  of  the building adjoining the elevated—as one might expect. Dis-
tressingly, the  library is also incredibly noisy for purposes of concentration.
  In addition to the  preceding, other noise  pollution in the  area  is  almost
entirely a result of street traffic, with busy intersections being the trouble
spots. Ambient noise levels in other parts of the study area  are shown below:
  Seminary-Eddy:  75 to  85 dBA;  Racine-Clark: 80 to 85 dBA; Clark and
Irving Park: 80 to 90  dBA;  Addison and Sheffield: 80  to 85 dBA;  Clark-
Addison:  80 to 90  dBA; 3527 North Clark:  90 dBA;  and  Irving Park-
Sheridan: 100  to 105 dBA.
  For the sake of comparison  a chart of noise  levels  from common sounds
is attached as appendix A.

                     III. NOISE AND HEALTH HAZARDS
  It has long been known that sound can cause physiological and psychological
reactions. Unfortunately,  some of these reactions pose health  hazards. In the
light of the previously mentioned data, the following three comments strongly
suggest that dangerous levels  of noise are becoming  the norm rather  than
the exception:
  1. In  his  remarks to the Air Pollution Control Association in  1966, Dr.
William  H.  Stewart, Surgeon General, U.S. Public Health  Service, said: "It
has been shown that  prolonged exposure  to 85 decibels and above  (approxi-
mately the level of heavy  traffic from 50 feet away)  will induce permanent
loss of hearing; first  at high frequency, then gradually toward the  range of
human speech." Further research indicates a  positive correlation between
noise and increased malfunction of the heart, endocrine system, and repro-
ductive system. Noise is even thought to affect the  unborn fetus.
  2. According to Prof. Edward R.  Hermann of Northwestern University,
"Noise that  masks  or interferes  with  essential speech  communication in,
dangerous  situations  constitutes an obvious hazard." This situation  occurs
frequently,  especially near the elevated tracks. Referring to 140 to  145-
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causes slight  but permanent threshold shifts, which are irreversible and
cumulative, i.e. causing sensori-neural hearing loss."
  3.  In his presentation to  the American Public Health  Association, "Quiet
Communities for  New York," given  in  1970,  Dwight F. Metzler, Deputy
Commissioner of the New York State Department of Environmental Conserva-
tion  said that,  "Ninety dBA can produce a  physical reaction  related to the
development of cardiovascular disease." Further on in his paper,  he writes,
"At  this time,  it would appear that a goal  of about 80  dBA  be established
as a maximum exposure limit to prevent hearing damage. Even  at this level
a small percentage of the people having particularly sensitive hearing may
suffer hearing loss from prolonged exposure."

                           IV. RECOMMENDATIONS

1.  Changes in the Walsh-Healy Public Contracts Act

  The Walsh-Healy Act should be amended  so workers are better protected
from hazardous noise levels.  The present law allows 90 dBA levels for  an
8-hour duration. But, auditory damage can  frequently occur at this measure
of noise intensity level. NSBE recommends that  80 dBA, as  proposed  by
the New York State Department of Conservation for their quiet  communities
program, be adopted, as the Federal maximum noise standard for an 8-hour
period. Thus, the amended Walsh-Healy Act  would then allow a maximum of
80 dBA, not the present 90 dBA, as the 8-hour duration noise level. Of course,
the other exposure levels and their durations would be appropriately amended
to reflect this change.
  Also, the  Walsh-Healy Act is  too limited in scope.  That act covers only
those employed by companies holding  Federal contracts  valued  at or above
$10,000. Amendments  should be added to control noise in  all areas and  all
conditions where such  levels present health hazards.

2.  Adoption of sound transmission class levels
  EPA should  adopt  sound  transmission class levels. The STC rating is the
level of sound which building  materials block. For example, if a  meter meas-
urement outside a building is 100 dBA, with the meter recording  60 dBA
inside the building, then the building has an STC rating of 40.  Oak Park, a
Chicago suburb, has a code  that could  serve  as a model for establishing STC
ratings for building materials. The specific section is 81.2a of the Oak Park
Noise Pollution Ordinance.
  NSBE suggests that EPA adopt STC ratings for building materials that
will  reduce noise  levels below the 80 dBA; particularly in noisy metropolitan
areas.

3.  Additional research on baffles and concrete supports used to abate noise

  EPA should perform additional research on the effectiveness of baffles and
concrete supports suggested for noise abatement around rail  mass  transit
systems. Preliminary results  from  tests  which Northwestern University
students performed on baffles and concrete supports erected on the Englewood
extension of the CTA elevated for the purpose of noise attenuation indicate
that these modifications presently have negligible effects on dBA levels. Peak
levels of 98 to 99  dBA were  recorded both with and without concrete supports
and  baffles.  These structures, at the  time of testing,  lined both  sides of a
quarter mile stretch of the  Englewood Rapid Transit Line from Ashland to
Racine. The cost for these baffles was  estimated at $33 per lineal foot. Thus,
the  overall  cost for  baffle  material alone on  this stretch of track is over
$86,000.

^.  Development of a friction reducing compound

  A new friction reducing compound  should be  developed. This  compound
will  help reduce noise resulting from rail-wheel interaction on the  CTA tracks.
Replacing existing tracks or wheels to  reduce noise levels  would be expensive.
A more economical means of reducing such noise could be the development of a
noise abating  coating that could  be  applied  to the  wheels  and/or  track.
Correspondence with  the Dow Chemical Co. indicates this may  be an  in-
novative means of reducing  noise. Also, a Dow  representative  says that
development of a  product with the desired  qualities of  abrasion  resistance
and  adhesion  may be technically  feasible.  Given the known  ingenuity  of
American chemical companies, a demonstration grant from the Federal Gov-
ernment could  lead to an inexpensive  means of reducing decibel levels.
  This  statement  was prepared by:
  Douglas Rathe,  senior in  the School of Journalism at  Northwestern Uni-
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  Steven Newman, senior in the co-op program of the Department of Elec-
trical Engineering at Northwestern University, member of the environmental
control team of the uptown study group, member of NSBE.
  Ronald Eng, graduate student in the Ph. D. program in biomedical engi-
neering at Northwestern University, member of the executive committee of
NSBE, member of the region V SCOPE council of the Federal EPA.
  Thanks are extended to Prof. Martin Wachs,  urban planning section of
civil engineering, and to Prof. Gustave Rath, director of the Design  and
Development Center, for their help  in the preparation of this statement.*

  Miss LEWIS. I  will try to answer questions; if I can't, I will
relay them to the men that did this study.
  Dr. MEYER. Very good.
  Mr. HINTON. I would like to ask you one question, Miss Lewis.
First I would like to commend you on your statement, and  I would
like to thank you for bringing to our attention the existence of a
model building code  which requires exterior  wall  STC  criteria.
This is a relatively rare thing. I don't know where else it's  done.
Thank you.
  Miss LEWIS. You are welcome.
  Dr. MEYER. We are trying to obtain a lot  of  information  re-
garding noise  conditions  in  different places,  and receiving  in-
formation on a study like this would be most valuable to those of
us who are working on the report to Congress. I am trying to  get
as much information of valid measurements and different types of
locations, and this is  an important contribution, plus the informa-
tion you have given  about this noise reduction coefficient. I will
look into this further. Thank you very much.
  Miss LEWIS. Thank you very much.
  Dr. MEYER. Proceeding next in accordance with our schedule is
Mrs. Laura Fermi of the Cleaner Air Committee of Hyde Park-
Kenwood. If she is still here I would be most pleased to have her.

    STATEMENT OF LAURA FERMI, CLEANER AIR COMMITTEE
                        OF HYDE PARK
  Mrs. FERMI.  My name is Laura Fermi; I represent the  Cleaner
Air Committee of Hyde Park and Kenwood. That is  a neighbor-
hood around the University of Illinois. Our committee has worked
12 years toward  abatement of  air pollution, but we are  also in-
creasingly  aware of other environment problems, particularly of
rising levels of city noises.
  We wish to call you attention to some  sources of noise which
may not be as obvious as heavy automobile traffic or airplanes,  but
which nonetheless have affected us  within  our neighborhood,  not
downtown  noise.  These sources  are large delivery  trucks and
trailer trucks in residential sections, especially when they  go back
and forth to make a turn; garbage  pickup trucks with unneces-
sarily noisy grinding devices. Sometimes they drive long stretches
between pickups with their grinding devices on, and we can hear
there  is nothing inside them; trains, there are the freight trains
of the Illinois Central at night, they are very noisy.
  Then the South  Chicago subway, inside which the noise is above
the danger level, in our opinion. The elevated  trains whose metal
wheels squeak against the metal rails, and we  suggest that some
other kinds of tires  be required. Then  motorcycles, especially if
driven by  youngsters. Construction machinery,  especially pneu-
  ' Supporting  material for  this testimony is on file at the Office of Noise Abatement and
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matic drills, and then even noisier than the construction machinery
is, are the machines which fell and chop up trees. We live near a
park, and that happens  quite often.  Power lawn mowers; im-
properly adjusted air conditioners.
  Our group is a conservationist group, and we try not to run air
conditioners too much, to save on electricity, but often at night we
have to  run our air conditioners only to protect ourselves from a
neighbor's too noisy air conditioner.
  Much too loud music and announcements  from public  address
systems, both  in closed spaces and in  the streets.
  Drumming  and  singing  in  public  parks  later at night than
should be reasonable, and the same drumming for too long  periods,
in shopping centers where they upset the shopkeepers. You know,
they can't get away, they can try—we can try and get away, but
they can't.
  We have noticed that noise travels along strange paths. It shifts
direction on our big buildings, and it is louder when it reaches the
upper floors than at  street levels, especially this drumming.
  I have had the experience myself that I went down to the street
and  I could hardly hear it, and up at  my floor level, which is the
15th, it's very strong. It seems to come from the south when the
players are on the east side.
  If a study of noise paths and causes of noise amplification  has
not yet  been made, we recommend that it be undertaken now.
  As for household appliances, we often hear the statement that
we, the consumers, demand more and more  powerful, and there-
fore noisier appliances. In reality we seldom have any choice. For
instance, my own new dishwasher runs, and  the floor makes noise
and  therefore makes noise over three times as much as my previ-
ous  dishwasher, which was 22 years  old. To my knowledge it is
not  possible to buy now a dishwasher that does  the job in  12
minutes.
   Finally we would like to point out the noise due to poor acous-
tics  of certain rooms. It may not result in deafness, perhaps, but
it's terribly tiresome and irritating.
   There is a  building in Hyde Park  where I have vowed I will
never go to parties there. It gets too noisy. Thank you very much.
   Dr. MEYER.  Mrs.  Fermi, thank you for reminding us  that we
have a  lot of problems besides automobiles and airplanes.  And the
problem that you mentioned about the noise seeming louder at the
15th floor than at the surface, and not in the  same direction, is one
that  is causing a  lot of concern, because in big cities with tall
buildings there is this bouncing around of the noise, as you aptly
describe. And sometimes the reflection and the building up of
noise from several sources does cause this problem.  It's  one that
we are going to look at very seriously. Panel, any questions? Thank
you very much.
   Dr. MEYER.  Is  Areta Psyk here? Perhaps I am pronouncing it
wrong. I think I know my languages fairly well, but it's P-s-y-k, of
the  Oak Park Campaign Against  Pollution.  If  not,  Jo Ann
Horowitz, who is  the Illinois chairman of the beleaguered earth
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 STATEMENT OF JO ANN HOROWITZ, AMERICAN ASSOCIATION
                  OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN
  Mrs. HOROWITZ. Mr.  Chairman, gentlemen of the panel, and
concerned citizens: I am Jo Ann Horowitz, 5818 West Montrose
Avenue,  Chicago,  111., 1971-1973  this  beleaguered  earth  topic
chairman, Illinois  division, American Association of University
Women.
  I would like  to present the first vice president of the Illinois
division,  Mrs. Mary Eleanor Wall, who is with me this afternoon.
This association is a national women volunteer organization with
170,000 members located in 1,681 branches throughout the country
as well as members-at-large. The Illinois division of the  American
Association  of  University Women has 74 branches with nearly
9,000 members. I have with me the prepared  testimony from the
members of  our northwest suburban branch, which I will not read
but offer as  additional testimony appropriate to this hearing.
  Dr. MEYER. It will be inserted  in  the record following your
testimony.
  Mrs. HOROWITZ. Thank  you. The AAUW is interested in a
variety of concerns and for the past 2 years two  of our topic areas
for study and action  have been "This Beleaguered Earth—Can
Man Survive?" and "The Human Use of Urban Space." We have
chosen to continue with "This  Beleaguered Earth" topic in the
next biennium because of our concern in the environmental quality
of our community and of our Nation. Ways must be found to con-
serve our environment, our normal state of mind, our physical and
mental health, and even our lives by reducing noise.
  It would seem that in homes, schools, and places of business and
industry, noise can be reduced. Noise levels in a house are greatly
increased with the sounds of televisions, radios, record players,
and increased usage of a variety of electric motors and appliances.
  Wall partitions  are flimsy and allow sounds to penetrate the
whole home. Less than 10 years ago I lived in  a newly built apart-
ment building in Chicago and could hear the people in the adjacent
apartment dial the telephone there. Especially annoying is the
sound of running water through the pipes of another apartment
when one is trying to find sleep and rest in his own quarters.
  Many  people on hot nights are expected not to use their air
conditioners out of consideration for neighbors  who cannot sleep
because of the noisy motor which was just bought at a modern
appliance store.
  Researchers in Switzerland, West Germany,  and  Canada have
found in studies on  sleeping subjects  that the noises  of nearby
motor traffic, or of a radio or television in the next room can affect
sleep. The noise does this by lifting the sleeper from a deeper to a
shallower phase of sleep.
   During their working day people deprived of deep sleep can  be
irritable and cranky, feel tired, have daydreams, and be mentally
disorganized. Lack of proper sleep  reduces people's ability to cope
with ordinary frustrations and robs them of their sense of humor.
   Whether or not they live in noisy homes, people often work in
noisy surroundings.  A study of steelworkers in West  Germany
found that workei-s exposed to noise on the job had twice as many
family problems as did similar men who worked in quieter sur-
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ditions were more aggressive, distrustful, and even paranoiac than
were  similar men who worked in unsimilar—quieter—circum-
stances. The noise-exposed workers also were far more likely to
quarrel constantly with their foremen. AAUW has equal concern
for the sounds  of transportation vehicles which we surely  must
have the technology  to reduce such as  automobiles, motorcycles,
buses, subway trains, and  airplanes.
  Noise can be especially harmful to persons already under other
kinds of stress and can lower their ability to cope with their emo-
tional problems. A 1969 English study showed that people in the
noisy environment near London's Heathrow Airport  suffered a
higher incidence of  mental illness than did people who lived in
quieter environments some miles away. Because of the heavy use
of O'Hare  Airport and the great amount of traffic  to and  from
this airport, we urge no further expansion of O'Hare Airport.
  Princeton University psychology professor, Silvan S. Tomkins,
believes that in our society noise is a constant terrorizer and that
this constant stimulus of stress is as unnatural a state as perpetual
hunger would be, since both of these are incompatible with optimal
existence.
  We urge that the  site for a third major airport in the Chicago
area be established soon. The determination of this location would
go a long way in reducing the anxiety level  of many citizens. Be-
cause of our concern for  this beleaguered earth, we believe that
this new airport should not be built in  Lake Michigan for it will
destroy the lake ecologically.
  City planner  and Chicago State College  professor, Frederick
Blum, has  reported  that Lake Michigan is  only ten years  away
from being as  dead as Lake Erie. Lake Michigan  is  this area's
greatest  natural resource  and source of beauty. It  should not be
defaced and used as  a receptacle into which things can be dumped
and built.
  There  have been no  reports of an environmental study on what
would be the ecological impact of constructing and having an air-
port in Lake Michigan.
  State  Representative Robert Mann believes the thought of
building an airport  in Lake Michigan jeopardizes the way of life
for  everyone living on the  South  Shore and  that this  part of
Chicago  is in danger of becoming a residential desert. He feels, as
so  many of us  do, that  human  values  of urban  life are im-
portant too.
   Noise  pollution has been an annoyance, a bother, and a threat to
human beings for too long a time. Ironically, noise has been the
quiet pollution,  the  one not talked about. We  commend the En-
vironmental Protection Agency for its willingness and concern to
exercise  control in  this area. We urge legislation to give this
Agency the legal weapons to fight noise pollution.
   We appreciate opportunities such as this to  communicate  our
opinions about doing something to lower the volume control on the
threatening and dangerous noises of this beleaguered earth. Thank
you.
   Dr. MEYER. Thank you,  and thank you for  reminding us that one
of the problems we are faced with in dealing with noise is not only
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 sleep,  which is one of its  really major  nonauditory  problems.
 Panel? No questions? Thank you, Mrs. Horowitz, for coming and
 being  so patient.
   (The statement referred to above is as follows:)
   Statement by the Northwest Suburban Illinois Branch, Illinois
 Division, American Association of University Women to the En-
 vironmental Protection Agency,  July 29, 1971, Sheraton-Chicago
 Hotel, Chicago, 111.
   Statement prepared  by Mrs. S. J. Loska, 1694 Van Buren, Des
 Plaines, 111., president 1969-1972, of the Northwest Suburban Illi-
 nois Branch, AAUW.
   Mr. Chairman and members of the  Environmental Protection
 Agency:
   During the past 2 years the University Women's Organization
 had as two of their four study topics, "The Human Use of Urban
 Space" and "This Beleaguered Earth—Can Man Survive?"
   Our group with a membership over  165 women  is located pri-
 marily in two northwest Chicago suburbs, Park Ridge and Des
 Plaines with some members  from Mount Prospect  and  Arlington
 Heights.  These  suburbs are adjacent to O'Hare International Air-
 port.
   During the past 2 years the two study groups have focused on
 noise pollution  and problems  with special emphasis on air and
 highway sources.
   For 18 months branch members have actively participated in
 the formation and activities  of concerned citizens groups that are
 dealing with offensive noise levels. Increased noise levels have lead
 to the deterioration of the quality of life in these suburbs which in
 most  instances  have been organized communities  for over 100
 years.
   Representatives of our organization have attended the meetings
 of the citizens group NOISE. Topic leaders have attended public
 hearings conducted by the Illinois Senate Subcommittee  dealing
 with O'Hare Airport noise.
   Some groups have set up  monitoring devices near the airport
 that show noise to be at an objectionable and detrimental level.
   Through individual study and investigation we have considered
 the problems of jet noise and the hazardous effects on man. Study
 group  discussions and findings have been reported to the general
 membership.
   Though we could not capture a sampling of the noise level we
 present example one which is a byproduct of the total jet destruc-
 tion. This is an example of residue accumulated over a 21-day
 period on a newly painted table for patio dining in a home located
 7 miles from O'Hare International Airport. This residue  of jet
 fuel expulsion is a known hazard to man's environment. Though
 courts award homeowners property compensation there is no pay-
 ment for excessive human body deterioration.
   With new interest and increased awareness, individual mem-
 bers have felt  a responsibility  to express themselves by com-
municating with elected officials at local, state and national levels.
 An all-member letter writing campaign was encouraged, promoted
and realized. It  is out of our  study and concern that we file these
 statements today.
  We strongly urge that there  be no further expansion of O'Hare
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  An immediate decision must be made in choosing a site  for a
third airport. It is imperative that another airport be located in a
less congested area though certainly not in Lake Michigan.
  All projections indicate that by 1975 all air traffic, both passen-
ger and cargo,  will be doubled or even tripled. Presently O'Hare
Airport with its high noise levels affects the lives of nearly a half
million people in a 10 mile  radius of its  parking lot.  Expansion
must be stopped and the situation as it now exists must be rectified
to prevent the further deterioration in the quality of life.
  Legislation should  require the manufacture  of quieter jet en-
gines.  Ecological  factors  outweigh the increased cost of noise-
suppressed  engine  production.  Rapid  ascent  enforcement  is
essential.  Demands should be made that pilots comply with ascent
and  descent regulations. Stricter FAA standards for noise abate-
ment should be set for this airport.
  In order to best utilize urban space we urge airport personnel
and  aircraft operators  to  comply  with Federal air pollution
standards.
  The membership of the Northwest Suburban Illinois Branch of
the American Association of University Women ask the Environ-
mental Protection Agency to use its power in our governmental
process to abate the noise level in airport environment which leads
to extreme health complications. We thank you for this oppor-
tunity to make our views known.*

  Dr. MEYER. Is Mr. Omar Marcus still  here? Mr. Marcus is a
writer. I am glad you could  stay, Mr. Marcus.

               STATEMENT OF OMAR MARCUS

  Mr. MARCUS. Mr.  Chairman,  members of  the panel,  it's my
pleasure to present to you an article actually intended for  publica-
tion, assigned by a chain of newspapers and planned for  publica-
tion shortly.
  If, in its presentation, some explanations on sound and  sound
measurements should appear irrelevant or rather preposterous to
the  experts  on  the panel, I  would ask your forbearance,  because
this article is intended for the general public who know  little or
nothing  about sound measurements,  and  its effects on  their
physical and mental health, but who only suffer, and would like to
find a way to defend themselves.
  In his  much-heralded  declaration of war on pollution  and en-
vironmental destruction, Mr. Nixon made regrettably scarce men-
tion of one of society's worst enemies:  Noise,  excessive noise;
lamentably little mention of it was made by experts who addressed
Northwestern University's mass meeting on pollution some time
ago. Yet,  it is an established fact that noise is  physically harmful.
To combat this invisible enemy is far less costly than the war on
air and water pollution.
Sound and its measurement
  It would be difficult to understand or attempt to alleviate  any
problem associated with noise without some comprehension of the
complex character and characteristics  of sound.
  While this article is not intended as a scientific dissertation on
sound and its terminology, suffice it to say that sound intensity is
measured in  decibels  (dB).
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  Briefly, a 1,000 cps  (cycles per second)  sound which can just
barely be heard. This minimum sound is given a decibel level of
zero. If the measured  sound intensity is 10  times  the reference
level, it is rated at 10 dB.
  Careful though. Decibels  actually express  a ratio between the
intensity of two sounds, and the  numerical  value  of the db in-
creases logarithmically.
  To  illustrate:  The rise from  0  to 10 dB represents a  10-fold
increase in sound intensity. But  a rise from 0 to 20  dB means the
intensity has gone up to 100 times; and the decibel change from
0 to 30 represents an increase in  sound energy of  1,000.  By the
time the  decibel  level reaches 100, the  sound  energy has gone up
10 billion times from the threshold of hearing.
  Measurements  of  intensity and  frequency apply only  to the
physical aspects of sound, without indication of human interpreta-
tion in terms of loudness.
  Intensity can be measured by instruments;  but loudness  level, a
subjective experience, can be determined only  by the judgments of
a number of people. Therefore, experimenters  have established
that the  sensation of loudness varies not only with the intensity
(dB), but with the frequency (c.p.s.) of a sound. So, sounds of the
same  intensity do not  necessarily create sensations of the same
loudness.
  Consequently, loudness level is expressed  by a physiological unit
called the phon.
  Noise  is physically harmful and reduces productivity.
  Europe's No. 1 noise buster, Prof. Gunther  Lehmann differenti-
ates between three grades of noise: Grade 1 has only psychological
effects; grade 2 affects the  vegetative nervous system directly,
while grade 3 harms the auditory organ.
  Grade  1 goes as high as 65 phons, the phon being the  unit of
noise. An external machine  noise may become  quite unpleasant
with as low as 40 phons. Even weaker noises may, through psycho-
logical excitement, gradually produce vegetative disturbances—
especially nocturnal noise.
  The  psychological  degree  of noise differs from one individual
to another. According to Professor Lehmann, everything depends
on  a given  person's  individual  sensitivity, which  is not  a fixed
entity but varies with the person's  emotional attitude toward the
source of noise.
  Noises we make ourselves, or those associated with a process we
like, are seldom found unpleasant however high their phon figure.
Young parents love the cries of their babies which infuriate their
neighbors; dog owners are thrilled by the bark of their pets, and
the teenage motorcyclist delights in the roar of his engine without
muffler.
  Indeed, a factory worker who  is proud of a  special machine and
the work he does on it, may frown on any noise reducing measures
ordered by the management.
  For many the sense of strength and importance is somehow as-
sociated with the noise they can produce.
  Sixty-five phons awake and 45  phons  asleep are the limit be-
yond which  vegetative  reflexes in our nervous system will  appear
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  Professor Lehmann found  that the most important  reflex is a
narrowing of the  arterioles,  the smallest arterial  blood vessels,
particularly in the skin and in the mucous membranes.
  The resistance within the vascular system is increased. This does
not lead to any increase in blood pressure, but the amount of blood
thrown out by the heart  at every pulse is reduced,  resulting in a
reduction of the total circulation in the body. It may  reach up to 50
percent of the time-unit volume of circulation.
  The decrease in pulsations in capillaries—those minute vessels
connecting an artery and vein—permits even a measurement of
this dangerous phenomenon.
  The effect is independent of  the sound frequency; it is weaker
in young persons than in older ones. This circulatory effect has a
duration equal to that of the  noise producing it,  which  may mean
hours, and recedes slowly thereafter. It is entirely independent of
the will. Nor is there any habituation.
  Psychologically, we may become accustomed to some noise but
our vessels never will.
  An associate of Dr. Lehmann's made a conclusive  study on steel-
workers exposed to much noise at their jobs; a group of workers
exposed to a weaker noise serving as a  control. The  group exposed
to excessive noise showed circulatory disturbances in the skin and
the mucous membrances, increased  irregularities of cardiac ac-
tivity, some increase in disturbances of digestion and equilibrium
and a rise in the cholesterol level.
  When  excessive  noise  persists long enough, the  vegetative
trouble may become established and produce clinical symptoms.
  A typological study of the  workers involved showed  that those
on the noisy jobs were all sturdy, resistant men.  A weaker person
would never take a job  with a high degree of noise. Yet, even
stable, strong men are affected by noise. In fact, it was shown that
those athletic types suffered more conflicts in  family and factory
than the men of the weak noise group did.
  Noise produces nervousness even in strong men. Moreover, they
are nearly deaf for some time after work, which presents another
source of human conflict.
  In the light of such findings, we may imagine the  physical harm
suffered by countless thousands of all age groups in dwellings ad-
jacent to rail tracks, exposed, as they have been for years to that
most  harmful of  sounds,  the  excessive  intermittent  ones, like
elevated, long distance  or mile-long freight  trains, engine and
factory whistles, and a host of associated noises, teenagers  revel-
ing in literally deafening rock-and-roll pounding, not to mention
the bandsmen themselves.
  Even in orchestral classical music,  a  percussion player goes
progressively deaf to high frequencies.
  A Japanese college student, preparing for an  examination, be-
came so enraged  by a  mechanical piledriver close by, that he
rushed out  and put his head between the pile and the crashing
hammer.
  All of which leads the writer to the strong conviction that there
exists a definite  link between noise and violence.
  My personal recommendations to the Federal  Crimes Commis-
sion would be to view and review their findings in the light of this
somewhat startling theory. It would not be surprising if a large
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areas, were to be traced back to perpetrators' exposure to exces-
sive  periods  of  excessive noise—a potential crime  factor to be
fought at its source first and taken into consideration before con-
demning a  culprit for what he committed, at least partly due to
traumatic  conditions out  of his  control, which he  may  have
suffered.
  Therefore, a person committing an act of violence under  the
immediate  impact of a noise assault ought  to be considered as
acting in self-defense instead of being jailed as an aggressor.
  In this complex science of noise evaluation, we have to define
the common concept of "well being."
  A  person's well being is also  conditioned by  his exposure to
noise. In other words, "well being" for the scope of  preventive
medicine—according to the definition of the who—means "a state
of optimal  psychic, physical  and  social  well being" and not  only
freedom from disease.
  This guiding concept is of decisive importance for the entire war
on noise from the point of prevention of health hazards.
  Because of the problems of defining "sickening noise" as a dis-
ease without concretely provable factors which may have caused it,
noise combatants created those three above mentioned categories:
noise nuisance, health hazards through noise, and damage to health
through noise.
  Assurance of an adequate, undisturbed rest period in residential
areas—especially at night without underrating the importance of
antinoise measures at work—is one of the most important  con-
ditions in the war on  noise.
  Grownups need approximately 8 to 9 hours sleep,  children and
patients correspondingly more.
  There are millions  of people who, for 24 hours every  day, are
exposed to  some kind of noise: at  home,  at work, and in traffic.
In the deliberation of the most important noise reducing measures,
an overriding importance should be given  to assurance of an ade-
quate recreative phase during sleeping periods, generally at night.
  However, in view of sleeping periods being conditioned by in-
dividual professional  requirements, public noise  abatement meas-
ures  ought  to include police-protected rest periods of at least 9 to
11 hours in residential neighborhoods.
  It  should be  noted that  intermittent  noises during one's  sleep
need not necessarily cause awakening, but will nevertheless impede
one's sleep  from being sufficiently  recreative.
  We metropolitans are slowly going deaf as a result of growing,
yet unchecked daily and nightly noise around us.
  The American Medical Association reports an increase of 100
percent every 10 years  in the overall  loudness  of  metropolitan
noise. The  American home,  especially the modern kitchen, with
over a dozen different kinds of laborsaving devices  whining and
grinding, exposes  housewives  and kitchen workers  to  harmful
sound levels equal often to those of a steel mill.
  Over 7 million of our  population are exposed  at work to  deaf-
ness  causing noise levels, the United States Public Health Service
reports.
  The Federal  Republic  of Western Germany appears to be the
most progressive country in the fight against this invisible public
enemy.  Their Secretary of  State  for  Residential  Construction
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well-illustrated booklet, equivalent to a building code for the sup-
pression of noise.
  "There is no more any excuse for inadequate sound protection,"
the minister's  appeal to architects begins; soundproofing measures
for new buildings  must follow recommended lines before they're
passed by  the building authorities  using complicated electronic
sound testing equipment.
  In Japan,  instrument  equipped sound patrols may close  an
establishment  or bar exposing the public to harmful noise.
  What can we do—that means  every one of us—to halt and  re-
duce this ever-growing menace of harmful noise ?
  Clearly,  everyone must do  his share,  for there will never  be
enough  patrolmen  to  enforce sound  regulations.  Most of the
domestic noise nuisance is due to selfish lack of consideration for
the rights of others.
  If a youngster wants to attend early Mass on a Sunday and, in
the process of  getting up and ready, awakens neighbors above and
below, he should think again about the purpose of going to church
—or tell the father confessor: "In order to  get to Mass on time, I
robbed  my neighbors of  their  much deserved  Sunday  sleep,
slammed bathroom and kitchen doors, stampeded about the house
in heavy boots and revved up my car engine to make it warm  up
faster."
  If you live close  to the "L" tracks and are unable to move  away,
it wouldn't be  practical to request the almost bankrupt CTA to  re-
place its antiquated rolling stock with modern,  sound controlled
equipment. But have you ever tried  using ear plugs?
  Some synthetic material—as used by jet  aviation workers—fits
snugly into ear ducts and will yield a high frequency noise reduc-
tion of about 35 phons, equal to  over 50 percent.
  The writer  has been inseparable from  them for years.  For the
subway they're recommended as a regular practice; you'll have the
aural sensation of riding  on  a  Pullman sleeper—except  in
screeching curves.
  Antiquated  complaint  procedures:  Many existing abuses are
due largely to apathy on the  part of sufferers, their fear or un-
willingness to voice their complaints vigorously, and last but not
least, to clumsy, time-consuming methods of bringing a legitimate
complaint before a magistrate; not to mention reprisals any such
person might expose himself to, for being the only one courageous
enough to sign a complaint.
  Countless legitimate complaints pouring into police stations day
by  day are caused by devices designed to save domestic labor. If
you feel you really need a sputtering motor on your lawnmower to
give you a sense of power, please remember, too, that a multitude
of  motorized  lawnmowers  in operation  may turn  a respectable
residential neighborhood into an inferno. Remember too, that like
yourself, your neighbors have a right to live  in peace and un-
polluted air. After all, a muscle-powered lawnmower is excellent
for waistline control.
  Since the   beginning of coal delivery  by  truck to  private
dwellings and apartment buildings, it was carried or shoveled into
the boiler room—until someone invented a  motorized mobile con-
veyor belt capable  of terrorizing a wide area for hours at any time
from early morning on, with a noise way in excess of the tolerable
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half a dozen garbage trucks which, too, are still  permitted to
operate anywhere at  any time;  not to mention teenage gangs of
no-muffler motorcyclists  keeping neighbors alarmed around mid-
night.
  Don't despair.  Don't let inconsiderate  neighbors' dogs,  motor-
bikes, horn-blowing boyfriend dates, destroy your peace. Don't let
coal merchants or garbage collectors enrich themselves at  the ex-
pense of your physical and mental health. Call a police patrol car.
And if the nuisance persists, talk to the police station commander
or call your councilman. They're there to help and they usually do.
  They will listen to you  when you explain  that your health is
being  attacked,  undermined and  gradually  destroyed by  un-
scrupulous noisemakers.
  They also have ways of making offenders conscious of both the
limit of their civic rights and the start  of their obligations. The
more complaints they receive, the sooner we're likely to get noise
legislation.
  Alas, the police, too, might exercise more restraint in the use of
whistles. They're intended for emergency use only—not  for direct-
ing traffic. This ought to be done with flashlight-equipped sticks.
As for patrol car sirens in the quiet of night,  they're loud enough
to wake the dead.
  While it is impossible, within the scope of this article, to men-
tion more than just  a few of the most common sources of noise
nuisance,  there is one which merits attention because of its in-
sidious  design.
  At the end of each news bulletin Radio Station NBC, in  a show
of adolescent sensationalism, transmits  a siren like  crescendo
pitch  sharply rising to ultrasonic,  ear-splitting frequency. Don't
listen to it. It's  harmful. For every trick used by a radio station to
capture your  attention, for every half-ass disk jockey who disturbs
your listening or viewing pleasure,  there are at least two others
to choose  from who won't—in a metropolis like Chicago.
  With due credit to  the meritorious efforts of crusaders against
air pollution  and environmental destruction,  are we not putting
the cart before the horse by treating noise abatement  as  a step-
child?
  If we permit harmful noises to stay at their present  level, that
is letting them get worse, our physical health, our hearing and our
minds  will become affected to such a degree that we'll be  unable
to fight air and water pollution and enjoy the fruits of our  efforts,
when the battle is won.
  If we don't stop excessive noise now, future  anthropologists will
liken us to biblical idols:  "They have ears but hear not."
  What we  urgently need right now  is  more complete enforce-
menc of existing police regulations regarding noise. This would be
often sufficient, if they were really made use of.
  But what is needed above all for  a successful war on noise is a
detailed program of  legislative and administrative  measures,
culminating in the appointment of a Noise Commissioner in every
large community.
  This  program  would  doubtless  obliterate  noise everywhere;
though we may expect that those who might feel inconvenienced,
financially or otherwise,  by the  abatement of  noise will oppose it
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  Dr. MEYER. Thank you, Mr. Marcus, for a very scholarly review
of the knowledge and views of your own with regard to the noise
problem. Thank you very much,  sir.
  Mr. MARCUS. May I make one more brief comment, please?
  Dr. MEYER. If you will make it rather brief, sir.
  Mr. MARCUS. Yes; I will. I would like to comment on personal
experience I have had in reporting noise to the rank and file of
policemen who have been showing what I might call an obstructive
indifference to noise nuisance. I would like to recommend that at-
tention be given to the instruction of police officers on their duties
to the public by which they are paid.
  I would also recommend that garbage  trucks, or rather their
grinding mechanisms as in use right now should be condemned
and banned  until the manufacturers are instructed to abide by
sound regulations enforced by the EPA.
  Furthermore I would like to recommend that attention be given
to a type of  motorbike  that has made its appearance  in  recent
months, or  years,  perhaps,  called choppers, commonly  called
choppers. They are motor bikes used by hippie-type owners with
arrogance and you may  associate this type of motorbike with an
abuse of noise regulations, and I think a crackdown is more than
overdue.
  I should also mention  one particular location which I  observed,
although much has been said about the noise created by elevated
trains, there  is one at the border  of the  city limits of Chicago
where the trains make a curve, and each train on—in dry weather
makes a screeching, ear-busting noise which at times can be heard
for over a mile away.
  I live on the lake shore, and  last night  I heard the screech at
1:30 in the  morning, screeching noise of this train, and I  feel
something ought to be done. The CTA  is no exception. Further-
more, to end on a positive note, I have, myself, made a contribution
toward  this  in documenting graphically  yesterday  morning the
operations of a noise inspector of the city of Chicago who, at my
request, appeared on the scene  of  a garbage truck collector  who
the police said failed to bring under control for over 2 years, and
yet the  control—the inspector appeared with his  noise measure-
ment  instruments and finding excessive, excessive  noise, fined the
driver and summoned him to court. This picture (indicating) has
been circulated with one of the wire services, and I hope it will do
some good to the common cause. Thank you very much,  sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Is Mr. Richard Blomberg of the O'Hare Noise
Abatement Council here?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Mr. Chairman, would you, instead, recognize Mr.
Ted Decca? I understand he has a  7:30 meeting to attend.
  Dr. MEYER. Are you Mr. Blomberg?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Yes, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Are  you yielding?
  Professor  PLACER. May I make one observation  to Mr. Marcus,
before he leaves, for his future articles, and that is I understand
him to say that the mind may adapt, but the body  won't, to noise.
I would simply observe that perhaps  the solution,  Mr. Marcus, is
evolutionary change over time to where our bodies, in fact, do not
hear anymore. Just a thought.

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       STATEMENT OF TED DECCA, O'HARE AREA NOISE
                    ABATEMENT COUNCIL

  Mr. DECCA. Gentlemen, I would like to be very brief, if I may;
it has been a long day, I am sure, for you. Let me first express my
personal thanks for your interest and infinite patience in listening
to  all this testimony. May  I make two quick corrections to  your
schedule of  witnesses.
  First, my major  reason for being here is my involvement in the
O'Hare Noise Abatement Council as vice chairman and director for
the last  3 years. Secondarily, I am an alderman of the city of
Wood Dale,  possibly because of my ability  to timing  my speeches
around  the  aircraft noise,  while  my losing  opponents were not
aware of this.
  What I am about to convey to you are the feelings of the citizens
of the suburbs around the  airport. May I also state at this time,
with the exception  of Elk Grove Village, those communities  were
incorporated before Orchard Field was built.
  Now, Orchard Field is the predecessor of Douglas  Field, which
is the predecessor of O'Hare  Field, although my information re-
lates to O'Hare Field, the same problem exists at most, if not all,
throughout  the country.
  As you look at the information I have handed to you, you will
find some representative samples of letters  of complaints. The let-
ter addressed to you, Dr. Meyer, sums up the  feelings  of everyone.
I didn't pilfer your mailbox. I got a  copy of  it indirectly. Let me
quote from just a part of it:
  People work hard to provide  for their family.  My husband works 10, 12
hours a day,  6 days a week. Like most people  he battles traffic congestion,
et  cetera. He comes home to relax  and pow, airplanes every few minutes
going over the house.

  I will  leave the rest of this for your information,  and will not
go into it.
  Dr. MEYER. The appropriate items will go with our records.*

  Mr.  DECCA.  Thank  you,  sir. One  of the aspects of the noise
problem that is overlooked  is that related  to the schools and the
students.
  Now, I have given you, as well, two letters from the  surrounding
community schools, that being the board of education from district
2,  from Bensenville, and the board of education  from district 100
of Bensenville, and Wood Dale District 7, grammar school district
of Wood Dale.
  Now, very quickly I will read a  few items for your  information.
This is a letter from the Superintendent of District 2 and 100:
  My conservative calculation of the 22 interruptions or delay in instruction
caused by aircraft noise cheats the young students in the  community of
Bensenville of approximately 2.3 teaching hours in a day.
  The environment at Lincoln Elementary School for the handicapped children
has become so intolerable  that the  board  of education is currently  in the
process of selling the building and site and relocating the  students in a
building further away from O'Hare Field.

  May I wish him luck in that  regard. Some  of  my neighbors
haven't been so lucky to sell their homes.
  Dr. Warren Carson, the  superintendent  of district 7  school in
Wood Dale:
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  Two schools in  particular, Highland Elementary, built  in 1921, and the
Wood Dale Junior High built in 1966 are the major recipients of jet aircraft
noise. Yet the effect of this noise is that for every aircraft  landing or taking
off during school hours, we lose a minimum of 20 seconds instructional time.
The unfortunate part about this  is it is immeasurable, the amount of con-
centration time lost for the students,  and I,  myself, have  three children in
grammar  school  and  am very concerned  about the problems they have to
face in the  world today, and the fact that  they are  being cheated of an
education  by an  organization of  profitmaking people.

  I will leave the rest of the Fenton student report for your read-
ing pleasure.
  Included in  this informational package  are  some sound  level
readings which bear witness to the magnitude of the problem.
  One of the items that the FAA points  put is the existence of
noise abatement procedures  at O'Hare Field.  These  procedures
went  into  effect on April 20, 1970. The runway reminder signs
were  put up in August 1970. Upon reviewing these procedures,
this first statement of the procedures gives you an in-depth idea of
what the rest of them are about:
  The following noise abatement procedures have been promulgated by a
joint FAA-industry  committee  to serve as  a guide to aircraft  operators,
pilots, and air traffic controllers in achieving  a greater degree of noise abate-
ment, and do not supersede, amend or  nullify the applicable PAR's company
operating rules, air traffic rules and procedures, or good operating practices,
which means they are virtually  useless.

  I might also  comment very briefly and  say they are not being
enforced, they are not being followed.
  The question was put to the FAA, and  in particular Mr. Neal
Calahan to the effect of asking, number one, has anyone ever been
punished for violating these  rules.
  On two separate occasions the FAA responded no. This indicates
either all pilots are perfect—and, to my knowledge  the last perfect
human being was crucified—or the only other deduction that can
be arrived at is that the regulations are not being enforced.
  A proposed rulemaking committee was instigated by the FAA.
We submitted  our  comments and suggestions related to this, and
to date have received  absolutely no reply.
  The letter, which you have a copy of, sir, was, if I can find it in
the pile here, was dated back in January.
  Dr. MEYER. January the 26th, I believe.
  Mr. DECCA. That is correct. Thank you. The point of the matter
is that as  Mr.  Franks has said, and many other people have said
today, is we have gotten absolutely nowhere.
  One other comment that is of value in my behalf is as a general
statement, all documentation I have seen relating to noise exposure
levels in areas surrounding the major airports  relates  only to
direct line noise on straight arrivals and departures. It is not at all
realistic to believe that aircraft will not change course until reach-
ing cruising altitude.
  As a matter of fact, I have proof, if anybody is willing to look at
it, willing to come to O'Hare Field and watch them make a 90-
degree turn before they depart from the physical limits of the air-
port, they  are going due south.
  Let me summarize by saying that the jet noise pollution problem
is disrupting to the life of many millions of people as well as the
educational opportunities of  our  younger generation.

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  We must look to another airport to service the anticipated in-
crease in traffic. We, as the O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council
cannot tell you where, but we must encourage you to consider the
errors committed at O'Hare Field.
  Please do not force  other residents who  can now  enjoy their
homes in surrounding lands to suffer as we now do.
  Immediate relief is one of the requirements we ask now. They
can only be experienced by the establishment of workable enforced
noise standards. These standards must take into consideration the
fact that people do live 24 hours a day. Thank you, gentlemen.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you very much.
  Professor PLACER. One quick comment, Mr. Decca.  I think you
heard earlier the  statement from Mr. Desmond about the Illinois
task force.
  Mr. DECCA.  Yes.
  Professor PLACER. I would think they would be quite interested
in this material. I wonder if you would be willing to make a copy
of that submission available to them.
  Mr. DECCA.  By all means, sir. I will be glad to give them a copy
that I have here, if Mr. Desmond will meet me by the aisle.
  Dr. MEYER. Very good. Thank you  for taking the  time to as-
semble this data, because it is very valuable to us.
  Mr. HlNTON. Mr. Chairman, may 1 ask Mr. Decca one  question?
  Dr. MEYER.  Yes.
  Mr HlNTON. You said that your procedures—those  procedures,
is that enclosed?
  Mr. DECCA.  No, sir.  I do  not have more than one copy of it. I
would be more than happy to mail a copy to the group here.
  Mr. HINTON. Will you do that.
  Mr. DECCA.  I will.
  Dr. MEYER.  If you will get it to me	
  Mr. DECCA.  Yes, I will do that.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.
  Dr. MEYER.  Mr. Blomberg, you yielded kindly,  recognizing our
time constraints,  so would  you come forward now?  We will be
happy to hear from you, sir.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Thank you, Dr. Meyer.

  STATEMENT OF RICHARD BLOMBERG, O'HARE  AREA NOISE
                    ABATEMENT COUNCIL
  Mr. BLOMBERG. I am also a director and vice president of the
O'Hare Area Noise Abatement Council. I think while the previous
testimony is pretty much related to the problems, I think it's an-
other thing to look at the  responsibility, and what  people who
were in a responsible position had done.
  Public Law  90-411,  or 411, I should say, was  passed on July
21,  1968, and the opening sentence of that law reads:
  In order to afford present  and future relief  and protection  to the public
from unnecessary aircraft noise and sonic boom, the Administrator of the
Federal Aviation Administration, after  consultation with the  Secretary of
Transportation, shall prescribe  and  amend the standards for  the measure-
ment of aircraft noise and sonic boom, and shall prescribe and amend such
rules and regulations as he may find necessary to provide for the control and
abatement of aircraft noise and sonic boom  *  * *

and it goes on—but the FAA did have the authority.
  On the  12th of November 1969, the FAA in Washington did
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they stated that today's largest aircraft are operating at 110 to
120 effective  noise decibels.
  This is not  the scale that is usually found on sound meters. It's a
special scale,  and it's for aircraft noise, and the statement made
with relation to the new level was that this would be lowered to
102 to 108 effective noise decibels. They went on to state the 102
to 108 effective noise decibel range is similar to noise experienced
by the operator of a four-cycle powermower.
  Now, I have an article  which has been submitted in evidence
that says that the average noise level of a powermower measured
on the C-scale was found to be 97  decibels. It also goes on to state
that the SAE committee on noise levels has suggested a maximum
limit of 72 dBA for normal operation.
  They indicate that the powermower is too noisy,  and the FAA
is telling us we have something to look forward to, they are going
to lower the level of the present powermower.
  On July, in July 1970, the final report by the Rohr  Corp. was
issued, a report prepared  for the Department of Transportation
Office of Noise Abatement, and one conclusion in that report was
this, it said  that alternatively a small  fare increase is necessary
to completely offset the cost of a retrofit program. And, of course,
George  Franks has indicated our support of Senator Cranston's
bill.
  On November 4, 1970, in the Federal Register, volume 35, No.
215, the FAA, through the Department of Transportation issued
an advance notice of proposed rule making, civilian airplane noise
reduction retrofit  requirements,  but even though  the  FAA was
aware of our existence—very much aware of it—we had  to learn
of this particular proposal in a letter from Inglewood, Calif., from
the city of Inglewood's mayor, Bill Goedike; in a letter to George
Franks on December 8, 1970, he informed us of this and sent us
a copy of this particular measure.
  In turn various members,  including myself, of the council were
in touch with such groups as Airline Pilots Association, and were
very much amazed to find out that they had  no knowledge of this
proposal, even though it directly affected them.
  Furthermore, with relation to the 727 aircraft, which  has a
weight of approximately 152,000 pounds, the FAA certified a 727
stretch  jet,  which added 20,000  pounds to that  aircraft,  and
allowed it to  carry more cargo, but it was certified with the same
engine—and  I don't think it takes anybody technical to realize
if you have a heavier aircraft and put more cargo, and  you use
the  same engine, you are going  to have more noise,  and at an
FAA meeting, in an attempt to support anything that they might
be willing to  do,  we  asked them  could we  possibly, since we do
represent a number of citizens,  would it be  possible for us to
help them, by money for equipment at O'Hare, if they did not
have the best equipment?
  The statement was made that they had the best equipment avail-
able, and we  found this  particularly interesting shortly thereafter
because we found out that Atlanta and Kennedy have radar equip-
ment which will tell them the height of the  aircraft, and O'Hare
does not.
  And they  also, of course, have no sound monitoring  equipment
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of this article in 1965, they had aircraft noise measurement and
evaluation.
  Prior to January 11, 1965, Frankfort's airport, which  is the
busiest in Germany, also  had jet noise monitoring systems. The
statement made in the article was monitoring systems have been
in service since 1963 in various cities, including New York, but
there is no system in the  United  States similar to the Frankfort
network, according to the  Federal Aviation Agency, and the Port
of New York Authority, and to this day at O'Hare, the busiest in
the world, we still do not have any monitoring equipment. I think
that speaks for the FAA.
  Now, the other question that has been brought up is what about
the owner of the  airport, possibly they have something. In the
U.S. Senate  Report 1353,  the 90th Congress, the Second Session,
which accompanied the House bill 3400  on aircraft  noise abate-
ment, the statement was made that the Federal Government is in
no position to require an  airport to accept service by larger air-
craft, and for that purpose,  to obtain longer  runways; likewise,
the Federal Government is in no position to require an airport to
accept service by noisier aircraft, and for that purpose, to obtain
additional noise easements.
  The issue  is  the service desired by the airport owner, and the
steps he is willing to take to obtain the service, and yet when the
city of Chicago, represented by J. P. Dunn, O'Hare field manager,
spoke before an Illinois Senate  subcommittee he said,  "Our job
begins and ends at the fence. We are just the  housekeepers."
  It might be an interesting thing if maybe the owner of a factory
in Chicago, with dirty smoke pouring out of its stack said  after-
wards, "Well, it's  out of  my control." Maybe there is a parallel
there. I am not quite sure.
  Now, recently I have come into being of a copy of a letter that
was dated June 8 with relation to a new runway that is being put
in. A hearing was held in  Chicago on this. It was a couple of lines
in one newspaper that is published in Chicago, and the runway is
4R, 22L, and in line with this runway are the national freight
yards of  the  Milwaukee,  St.  Paul Railroad. In fact, this runway
goes right over the middle of them, and the attorney for the Mil-
waukee road has estimated that it will cost the Milwaukee road
something like  $1 million  to convert this freight yard so that the
airport runway is  usable,  and while the letter was sent from the
Department  of  Public Works, city of Chicago, saying they  were
aware of that problem, the runway is still going on, being built—
as usual, just as the one  did in 1967 that flies over the northern
section of Schiller Park in the residential  area. People bought  2
years prior to the building of that runway, they built their homes
there; it's 2.2 miles from the start of roll and approximately three-
quarters  of a mile from the end of that runway, and the reason I
brought up the  matter of these two items, and the people  from
Schiller Park, in that area were not able to come here during the
day, and with relation to the Milwaukee, St.  Paul Railroad, the
gentlemen that you have  listed down there, the  Brotherhood of
Railway  Signalmen, had to  leave because they had a meeting in
their area at 7 o'clock. It was unfortunate they had to leave.
  Interestingly enough, a local newspaper had a picture of that
runway, no article, just a picture saying, "Relocation of Highway,"
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runway. That's all there was. As far as the people, there was no
notice. All they saw was the construction of the runway.
  Now, yesterday you had the Air Transport  Association here,
Mr,  Becker.  Mr.  Becker testified  at the third meeting-  of the
Illinois Pollution Control Board on airport noise. When finally he
ran out of talk—my words, not his—he said that inasmuch as he
was representing the airlines, that they just don't know what they
were going to do about the problem. We have an answer. We have
an answer. We have  Mr. Cranston's bill, which he doesn't seem
to like .
  In the hearing yesterday I  understand Mr. Becker made a
statement, something to the effect that a third of the population is
made up of hard core complainers. Well, if we are in that number,
a third of the population, we are not going to be satisfied with the
view that Mr. Becker has.
  Now, an editorial in a local paper stated the air transport  in-
dustry's biggest concern is rapid expansion, not the well-being of
airport neighbors who may not even be customers. This—was this
really the fact or not? Well, you have to think, look at the  record.
Number one, one of the statements made with  regard to  retrofit
of jet  engines  is that the aircraft are old, and pretty soon, of
course,  they  will  be  obsolete,  and  be  replaced by new aircraft
which will be much quieter.
  I would like  to ask Mr.  Becker,  then, why Pan American Air-
ways is spending $300,000 per plane on new wing assemblies  for
their 707's if that is the case;  they are getting old—apparently
they are not  quite that  old, and the question that came up at the
Illinois Pollution Control Board  on the,  an example of cooperation,
it is a fact that the airlines were willing to retrofit their engines
so that they would have a  clean burning engine, and the deadline
that they  proposed was 1980. When the Federal  Government
leaned on them they came down to  1976, and when other  people,
particularly the Illinois attorney general said, "You may fly your
aircraft because I  can't  stop you, but I am going to fine you as  air
polluters,"  all  of  a sudden the deadline came  down to 1972—a
difference of 8  years, and therefore I would question whether  the
airline industry has the people first in mind. I would  rather doubt
it, on the basis of  past experience.
   In the May issue of "Air Progress' it stated  the following,  for
the record:
  The Secretary  of Transportation,  John A.  Volpe  predicts a 300 percent
commercial passenger increase by  1980, and a 400-percent  increase  by 1985.
However, Volpe warned the public will not stand for further noise  environ-
mental pollution.  Anyone who thinks we can meet that  kind of demand with
today's organizational resources, with today's pollution congestion,  with to-
day's intolerable  noise levels just  doesn't know how mad people can get.

   I think maybe we are finally getting through.
   Now, as  for the record, our organization, in a letter to the FAA
—one  that Mr. Decca referred to  on January  26, 1971, we sup-
ported the Cranston bill indirectly. We weren't aware of  the  bill
itself. We were aware of the Rohr Corp. report, and we called for
repayment of Federal loans which  would come from  airline ticket
tax.
   In my letter to the  FAA, since we have differences,  we  are
democratic in our organization, and I  wrote  to the FAA, and in
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levels; one example of this  problem is Runway 9R  at  O'Hare
International Airport, which was built in 1967, several years after
the single family  residential  section  of  Fairview  Heights in
Schiller Park, 111.,  where the  residential area  is only 2.2 land
miles  from the start of roll; on the extended Runway 9R center
line the only  apparent practical answer is  to  change the land
usage to industrial. The alternative is to stop the use of Runway
9R for departures and Runway 27L for arrivals.
  Of  course, lately there has  been much  concern in the paper
about destroying houses. How  often several people in  Schiller
Park, in that  area, have told me if someone will give them the
market price for their house—not what it's worth on the  market
now, but what it should be worth, and they will  give them the in-
terest rate they have on that house—which I think is only fair—
one gentleman in  particular stated, "I will move  out tomorrow."
  In fact, this same gentleman has a portable camper trailer in
his garage, and I said, "I see you must  enjoy camping."
  He  said, "No, I really don't."
  I said, "Well, why the trailer?"
  And his comment was this, "I go out every other weekend in
that trailer  because I prefer the insects to  the noise from the
aircraft."
  In a letter authorized  by  this council, now State chartered on
June 21, 1971, this council went on  record as supporting Senator
Cranston's bill, Senate bill 1566, and a companion bill  introduced
by Congressman Wilson  in California, which is House of Repre-
sentatives bill 7523, we support these strongly.
  As you  gather from my testimony, we are not satisfied that the
people who run the airport and the people who run the operations
at the airport have done all they can. We feel they could have done
more; however, they all have responsibility—the FAA by  stating
that the pilot  as the captain of his plane, for example, and then
when  you  call the runway or call the tower up and ask why an air-
plane  is going directly north over Mannheim  Road, when the cor-
ner of the airport,  the  southeast  corner  is at Mannheim  and
Irving, you get an answer well, he was vectored to that particular
course, which means he was directed to go over that course.
  He  may be the pilot  of his ship, but it's the FAA that is telling
him where to go, and  for that reason  our council has taken the
stand that neither the  FAA nor the city of Chicago, nor the air-
lines are going to voluntarily retrofit their aircraft, or voluntarily
going to  bring noise  relief  to  the citizens, and therefore  this
council, in unanimous vote, has asked that this Federal Environ-
mental—I am sorry, it's getting to me, finally—the Environmental
Protection Agency, you, Dr. Meyer, take charge of this, that you
oversee  the  retrofit  of the  jet  engines, providing that Senator
Cranston's bill is passed, and that  you oversee the  operation of
O'Hare  Airport because  we have suggested  prior to this at the
meeting with the  congressmen, for example, that there be  a noise
abatement officer at that airport to utilize sound devices to de-
termine if there are violations, unnecessary violations in the field
of noise, and we ask that your Agency, sir, take on  that job, be-
cause obviously the FAA is unwilling to do so.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much for your review of the ma-
terial  additional to what other representatives  of your organiza-
tion have  presented. This supplements their presentation.
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let me first make a comment. Since you support the Cranston bill,
you obviously, then, are not against air transportation per se. Is
that a fair statement?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. We have no intention of closing the airport, but
we  are aware, as we have learned firsthand from the pilots who
fly aircraft out of that airport, that the peak efficiency has since
been passed, and they feel that if they feel that way, obviously we
would have to agree with them that there is even a safety hazard
to the number of aircraft being put into the air; as an example of
this, the limit of aircraft operations at that airport is currently
135 on a temporary basis, and yet the FAA readily admits that
it exceeds this, and thinks nothing about it.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, you have  answered my question; you recog-
nize that there is a public need and a public utility involved here.
I just wanted to be sure that you are not just antiairplane per se,
and I think it's useful to know what colors your views.
  In other words, you are taking a constructive approach. You
think something needs  doing, it  needs bettering, it needs improv-
ing; the public health  and  welfare must be protected, which, as
you have shown here, as others,  is a problem.
  Let me ask you a question. My colleague, Lloyd Hinton, has had
to go, but  I know he has been  interested in this activity of the
noise council approach which was discussed  earlier  today.  The
idea of representatives of the municipal, dual constituted munici-
pal activities, the mayors,  the elected officials,  or whatever the
group is, or the councilmen, depending on how each is organized,
I think, what is it, some 23 political jurisdictions around O'Hare?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Actually we state 31,  and we are recognized in
21 communities which  have a  promise that it  is going to  expand
shortly.
  Dr. MEYER. But—
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Twenty-one communities by  resolution have ap-
pointed a member from their  village board  to represent them at
the council, on the general council.
  Dr. MEYER.  Fine, so whatever it is,  if  there could be some
arrangement in the interim to do what apparently has happened
in Minneapolis, where the council really works with the people
who operate the airport, and their representation is there, and as
you recommend, an airport noise abatement officer who represents
the council and the airport authority to really work together. Do
you think this might provide for  a feeling that there is some action
being taken rather than the picture I get out of all of this, that you
have a monolithic organization standing off to one side saying, "Go
away, don't bother us," and a group of people saying, "But we
have got to bother you because you are bothering us."
  Mr.  BLOMBERG. Yes, sir. I think there is  a feeling  of  total
frustration. I think, if I can give a very short example of this, one
member of our council who lives in Fairview Heights, who  is a
citizen member, and one occasion recently we passed  material to
him to be forwarded to his village in respect to getting any resolu-
tion from that village supporting the Alan Cranston bill, which a
number of cities and villages  and townships have already done,
after contacting him our contacting village officials, I found no in-
formation had been relayed to  them, and in calling this gentleman
he  stated that, "What  is the use," he said,  "we have gone there

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many times before and they will pass resolutions for us and every-
thing else, but they don't do anything about the noise, and that is
what really counts."
  Dr. MEYER.  Well, I guess I  will really sort of point the finger
directly at you. People are quite used to pointblank confronting me
with how I feel about things, so I guess I am going to turn around
and  pointblank  confront you about how  you feel about  your
council, instead  of writing letters to the various municipalities,
really stepping forward to the city of Chicago, and whoever runs
that airport and say, "Look,  we are ready to get together and
organize this joint sort of council based on the one that has been
used four  or five different places. Can we do it? Let's  see if you
will do it." Have you tried that yet?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. I believe I have not. I believe other members of
the council	
  Dr. MEYER. No, I mean has the council voted to do this, in going
back to their various municipalities and taken the leadership and
saying instead of continuing this impasse we are willing to really
try to come in and work with you for the time being, to try to get
towards this area of solving this very touchy administrative, legal,
and political problem. I am just saying why don't you do that?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Let me put it this way, the FAA does have the
authority to do something about planes that are in the air which
are the ones that bother us. We have attempted to approach the
FAA, and have gotten nowhere,  and the  city of Chicago disowns
responsibility and says it isn't theirs, even though somebody says
differently, they claim it isn't their  responsibility. I don't know
who is putting down  the runways, but somebody sure is out there.
  Dr. MEYER. My proposal is why don't you try to get together by
using some other political leaders. I am  not a politician. Try to
reason together and work this  thing out. It should begin to have a
better means of  communication through  some sort of formalized
arrangements, when  you all are  proposing them.  Then  you  have
really exposed whether or not people want to cooperate, instead of
everybody standing on their prerogatives. Just like that slide we
saw  yesterday, the  man with the transportation  company, two
policemen arguing—if you were here, you saw the slide, it was a
sports car, one saying, "No, it's not noisy," the other one saying,
"Yes, it is," and the driver is driving away merrily.
  I sympathize with you, and we are interested, and we are going
to try to do something about it, we really are, we are going to ac-
cept our responsibility in writing this report to Congress and out-
lining these problems. We are accepting some responsibilities that
are inherent in some of your review of what the other agencies do,
and if we get this legislation that is pending, we are going to push
ahead with it and try  to solve  the problem. But  some of this
clearly has got to be worked out at the State and local levels, and it
would seem to me that with the tremendous effort  that you all
have done organizationally, and the magnificent work that you are
doing, as evidenced in the testimony here, that perhaps there is a
chance of now coming  forward  and saying, "Look, let's try to
organize and discuss  some of these problems." Some councils that
have been started around the country are apparently beginning to
work successfully. I am just offering this as a suggestion.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. We would be  glad to  work with  anyone, sir.
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strength of our organization, since both parties are represented in
the suburbs, and this has been the success of the organization for
that reason. Other groups have failed because of politics.
  Now, regarding the city of Chicago, we have supported bills
recently, House  bills  219 and 220  which were drawn  up by a
representative of the city of Chicago. In fact, I was  in direct line
of communication with  him,  suggesting  amendments where it
could  be improved, where there was, because they were  using an
A-scale instead of a D-scale, where  they could run into problems
where they would pass  noisier planes actually, and call other
planes in violation that weren't as noisy, and the result of that bill
was that when it came through the Senate, as similar bills have
done,  that it was killed, and it was killed from the city of Chicago.
  I think that answers it. We just have had the door slammed in
our faces. We are willing to talk to  anyone, and even recently we
sent letters out to airlines themselves saying, "We will talk  to you,
you name the place and we will be there."
  But I realize that we still feel we  will talk with anyone regard-
less, even if their viewpoint is different, we hope  we can both
learn  from it, but unfortunately there are other groups apparently
representing the airlines, and so forth. We  will find out about
them, but the city of Chicago and the FAA, I apparently don't feel
that way, that is why we have to come to you.
  We really have no other place to turn to about  this. We  cannot
pass laws through our State legislature because,  as you are well
aware of, the city of Chicago has  dominance in there, and also, of
course, as was pointed out before,  a legislator that lives downstate
doesn't have much interest in aircraft  noise abatement.
  Professor PLACER. Can I join in this  just for a moment?
  Dr. MEYER. Of course, Professor Plager.
  Professor PLAGER.  Mr. Blomberg, as part  of  the problem—I
think what the chairman is suggesting is that, is a most sound
and rational approach. I wonder if part of the problem is that you
can't  find anybody to  sit  down with who will  accept the  responsi-
bility, or admit that he has the authority to actually come to grips
with the problem.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Yes, sir.
  Professor PLAGER. Is that part of the difficulty?
  Mr. BLOMBERG. It is.
  Professor PLAGER. Everybody says it's somebody else.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. It is, indeed.
  Dr.  MEYER. The finger-pointing business.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Yes. It does, you go around the bush and you
end up right back where you started from, no better off, no worse.
  Professor PLAGER. That leaves you with a sense of frustration.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. It  does.
  Dr. MEYER.  Thank you very much, sir. We appreciate getting all
of this.
  Mr. BLOMBERG. Incidentally, I will submit some of this informa-
tion. I don't have it ready today, but I will submit it.
  Dr.  MEYER. The record stays open for the next 10 days  in case
anybody wants to submit anything after having heard  this. Mr.
Tom  Hamilton of the planning commission and zoning  board of
Elk Grove. I know it has been long for you, sir.
  Mr. EDWARDS. The gentleman  over  here stole  my byline, that
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  This is the first time in a long time that I rushed a half a block
from my office to  get  here  at  1  o'clock  so I wouldn't miss  the
schedule.
  Dr. MEYER.  Well,  we apologize for the fact that unavoidable
circumstances  sometimes preclude sticking with the schedule.  We
don't like to do this. We certainly do apologize.
  Mr. EDWARDS. I  understand it completely, especially since I am
a substitute in taking the place of Mr. Tom Hamilton, of the  Elk
Grove Planning and Zoning Commission. He was unable to attend.

       STATEMENT OF WARREN EDWARDS, ELK GROVE
                   AVIATION COMMITTEE
  Mr. EpWARRDS. My name is Warren Edwards, a resident of  Elk
Grove Village, and member of the Elk Grove Aviation Committee.
In Elk Grove 10 years ago our Elk Grove Aviation Committee was
formed with the purpose of informing the villages of any informa-
tion we could gain  about O'Hare Field and the planes flying there,
and to help plan for the future, the right  of the citizens and their
property.
  We appreciate the value of O'Hare  Airport as a neighbor.  Elk
Grove boasts of having one of the largest industrial parks in the
world, and both industry and residents benefit by its existence in
its present form. We don't  advocate closing  the  field. However,
there is much that can be done  to make us better neighbors, such
as noise abatement procedures,  such as Federal commercial noise
standards acceptable to the area residents.
  Federal noise abatement flight procedures and the method—and
I underline this—of  enforcing these procedures-—I like to call it
that we have to have a good policeman  out there.  We have  got
scads  of rules and  regulations, but as you have heard in previous
testimony, I and many, many people that know a little bit about
flying know they aren't being followed.
  In 1967 Elk Grove adopted a master  plan. This plan incorpo-
rated  reflection of  aviation,  residential and industrial growth. It
was based on  information  garnered from  other governmental
agencies  which might affect us,  such as roads  and highways,
recreation, population studies, and the city of Chicago.
  Information  from Chicago was  based on a  master  plan  of
O'Hare Field dated 1964, which clearly forecast double runways in
three  directions at the field.
  Now, this plan,  I speak about  the Elk Grove master plan, al-
lowed for buffer zones, air corridors, flight paths over tollways,
forest preserve and industries.  Future zoning was passed on  the
basis of this master plan. In other words, we have done every-
thing  that  every agency has recommended that a planned com-
munity should do to protect the interests of the residents, industry,
give  the airlines  places to  fly and fit right into  a competent
master plan.
  We spent $30,000 of both Federal and local taxpayers money for
this plan.  Now, we find the O'Hare plan changed to have triple
runways in three directions, and in our opinion the third airport
is being built right now on top of  O'Hare Field. To me there is no
question of that. This makes all our planning  for naught, and we
have to discard or disregard our  plan. We can't allow this mass
of expansion of both the field and noise to drive our people away.
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recommended by  NIPC and others and still find ourselves in a
vulnerable position.
  There are methods of protecting our people,  such as Federal
legislation on the truth in airport expansion act. We got it  in the
credit field, why can't we have it here?
  Dr. MEYER. Very good.
  Mr. EDWARDS.  A truth in airport  area  real estate act. Com-
mercial developers informing potential customers or buyers  where
they are.
  A truth in assessed valuation act. This would have to do with
homes in a noise impact area.  Sometimes you  can find a little
physical relief if somebody is  given a little financial relief. This
seems to be human nature. I hope I have added to the general fund
of knowledge, and appreciate the time you have given us. Thank
you.
  Dr. MEYER. Well, one of the significant things that you have just
said is one  that I certainly can carry forward into the hearing in
Dallas on urban planning. And that is the need for meshing up all
of these different planning activities.
  The Federal Government is  assisting with financial grant plan-
ning through HUD, planning through a variety of other agencies;
we have all sorts of "master plans" and I know  in my own home
town of Shreveport, La.,  we have had at least five different  ap-
proaches to what the downtown and the region and so on ought to
look like in the year 2000, or in the year 1980. And I think your
point is well made.
  People—I  am  talking  about the taxpayer who spends that
money, no question about it—invest public funds  in a planning ac-
tivity, and  because of a lack of coordination in planning we wind
up  wasting them. It seems to me to be a rather disastrous situa-
tion, and I think  the record  and audience ought  to know that  the
President's  1971  environmental  legislative package does  carry
with it, in addition to the noise control bill, a regional land  use
planning bill in which some of the problems that you  have just
mentioned  will be solved if this legislation  is enacted in this ses-
sion of Congress. It will require that all of these  considerations of
noise, airport planning, water pollution, highway planning  and so
on  to be approached in a comprehensive  regional  manner, and
still recognize, as I feel as a Federal official has to be said,  that a
great burden of responsibility by the American Constitution rests
with the States, and the cities, and unless they want to abrogate
those rights to the Federal Government, they should be preserved.
And this present legislation takes that into account, but the point
really is we have got to get some order into this, and it extends
into all areas of the environment, as well as noise. But your point
I think is a very important one, and I made a note on it to remind
myself to be sure we include this in the hearings that deal  purely
with planning. Thank you very much.
   Professor PLACER. Only to echo that, I thought your point about
truth in real estate sales practices is also very good.
   Mr. EDWARDS.  We  call it  real estate act. We  still sell a lot of
homes in Elk Grove. My only other point—I am sorry the cameras
left—I wore a purple shirt.
   Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much, sir. As I  said, I  think you
have given us something to carry on.  Next  we will hear from Mr.
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  STATEMENT OF JOHN KERRIGAN, CITIZENS AGAINST NOISE
  Mr. KERRIGAN. Mr. Chairman, panel members, my name is John
Kerrigan; I am a member of two citizens groups, the Campaign
Against Pollution, and Citizens Against Noise. The reason I am a
member  of  Campaign Against Pollution and  Citizens Against
Noise is I live in Chicago, on the northwest side, about 41/2 to 5
miles east of Runway 27 right, in the area called Norwood Park.
  In our community aircraft noise is  a 7 day a week, 365 day a
year operation. We live, work and play with aircraft noise pollu-
tion as our constant companion. From  7 a.m. in the morning until
10 or 11 p.m. at night we are bombarded at regular 1 to 2 minute
intervals by a screaming jet plane.
  In the words of a tower controller, this runway is heavily used
for both takeoffs and landings, approximately 600 a day. We have
got the people from Minneapolis beat by quite a bit on one runway.
However,  in  all fairness I must admit we enjoy the luxury of a
quiet, relatively quiet evening between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m., which
is precisely the reason we are assembled here. We would like to
extend the luxury of relative quiet to 24 hours.
  Gentlemen, the people of the northwest side are upset about the
noise problem, but they  are also upset  at  the  apparent lack of
activity in dealing with this problem. The city administration, and
Congressman  Pucinski  have  told members of  the Campaign
Against Pollution that they are concerned with the problem of
noise around the airport, but that the Federal Government is the
only agency that can do anything about this problem.
  Yesterday Mr. Poston testified in behalf of the city of Chicago,
and let the people of Chicago down. Our  official environmental di-
rector  had no specific recommendations to make to  the Federal
Government  concerning aircraft noise pollution—not only have
our local  officials failed us,  but some of our State  officials. The
members  of  the Campaign  Against Pollution  presented to the
Illinois Pollution  Control Board for  adoption the California or-
dinance, or noise standards.
  Three  months have passed since these hearings,  and nothing
has come from the Illinois Pollution Control Board. People of the
northwest side are upset by the apparent inactivity because of the
seriousness of the noise problem around  O'Hare.
  I would like to temper my remarks directed at the State, in view
of Mr. Desmond's previous testimony, I  wasn't  aware they were
that active. However, the present city administration, while carry-
ing out its  responsibility to the  air  traveler,  has  neglected to
preserve  and protect the rights of the citizens  who  live here or
around the airport.
  As airport proprietor they have consistently taken a Pontius
Pilate view of airport noise abatement; that is, they have washed
their hands of the whole affair, but they must surely recognize the
existence of other noise problems  as attested by the recent adop-
tion of a  recent noise ordinance, but can  you imagine the scene of
a block full of homeowners receiving summonses for operating a
lawn mower too loudly, while overhead a  screaming jet obliterates
all sound, and continues on its arrogant way?
  We in  the city would  like, and truly hope to receive a  more
aggressive program in the area of aircraft noise abatement. How-
ever, while we feel government in general  has  been lax in ad-
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you must admit the airlines themselves are the ones who have
failed to act with common decency and moral responsibility.
  They have  been  protected and coddled far too long.  Since the
advent of the commercial jet in 1959, 12 years ago, relatively little
has been done  by  the airlines to reduce noise. For them, never
will be the right time to retrofit and muffle engines. Despite their
public relations claims no relief is noticeable. Long range stalling
and foot dragging is totally unacceptable to the people who are
begging for relief  now or in the very near  future. We  must cer-
tainly hope that this agency will be more successful  in carrying
out noise abatement programs than other Government bodies have
been in the past.
  Dr. MEYER. We are going to give it a try.
  Mr. KERRIGAN. That is about it, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Fine. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate getting
the information.
  Mr. KERRIGAN. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. We  can't  guarantee  anything, but we are going to
try.
  Mr. KERRIGAN. We appreciate it, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. Is Mr. Wendell P. Berwick of the Thomas 0. Myers
Real Estate Organization, Inc., here?
  Mr. BERWICK. Yes, sir.
  Dr. MEYER. You are another patient gentleman, and  again, we
apologize for the length  of time.
  Mr. BERWICK. Yes.

             STATEMENT OF WENDELL P. BERWICK
  Mr. BERWICK. I  think the location is important, it's 491 North
York in Elmhurst, and we sell in all of Du Page County. When the
Morrison Hotel was on Madison Street you could talk to your
companion as you walked along the street. Now the First National
Bank scoops  up the noise and shoots it down  on the street. You
have  to shout to your companion if you are talking as you go along
the street, and you give it up. Apparently the Chicago planners are
making mistakes. It appears that there is an increasing use of the
airport.
  If  you sit  in your backyard in Elmhurst, 7  miles south of the
airport, you hear the airplanes all the time. They are like thunder.
When you think one has passed, there is an extra reverberation,
then  the next one  comes. Only those  who can afford extra insula-
tion and central air-conditioning can really enjoy the summer.
  Recognizing that we  have plundered  our  planet with little  re-
gard for the future, 11  of us from the nation  formed a pollution
conference for the Methodist Board of Christian and Social Con-
cerns in Washington in  1961. Yet 10 years later many still do not
care, when dollars are involved, whether  there will be enough
water for their grandchildren, or whether the  air contains lead.
  To give you  some personal experiences, a  week ago I had a  re-
ferral of a buyer of a $50,000 home  who was told by a pilot that
Elmhurst is  in the pattern, and really we hadn't thought of our-
selves as that  way. I said, "You must mean  Elk  Grove," and I
showed him a $53,000 home in Elmhurst. However, when he came
out of the house, zoom, roar and thunder, and we could not con-
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buy in Elmhurst, and will not come back. That person believes we
have an air and sound pollution in Elmhurst.
  Again I was showing a trilevel there, and when we came out of
the home, zoom, zoom, two planes, and the odor of the planes was
thrown down at us by the wind. This does not always happen in
Elmhurst, in the northern part of Elmhurst it often happens; just
about all the time in Wood Dale and you heard one of their men
speak.
  These people bought farther west. We recently sold a 22-year-
old home in Wood Dale that was  listed with  us  under a flight
pattern, for a mere $36,000, that would easily—that home would
easily have brought $46,000 if there were no planes overhead, so
low you could identify them.  The owner  of this home lost the
$10,000.
  I personally have a sonic boom crack in my home. It took four
evenings to repair. All of us are afflicted with this, and if you have
any connection with those airlines, whenever I fly them, my ears
hurt a week later. I would  rather go a little slower and not so
high,  and get there a little slower than suffer with my ears.
  If this noise level continues to increase, property values in  Elm-
hurst, an  ideal community  with a  college, hospital and YMCA
will go down. My contribution to the hearing is to let you know
that this noise problem is  spreading 7 miles south of the O'Hare
Airport. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. I appreciate very much getting those dollar figures.
I wonder if you might, for the record—and I don't need to know,
you know, specific addresses, because that might be embarrassing
—but I would like some information on some similar information
of that sort that you might have of property values that have been
affected. It would be very useful to us.
  Mr. BERWICK.  I  could  send you  a  copy of the  listing,  and
probably some comparables of what it could have brought, such as
built 22 years ago, brick home, et cetera.
  Dr. MEYER. I would like to have that. That would be very useful
to us; that kind of data is  very hard to come by, and your coming
forward with it would be  very useful.
  Professor PLACER. Can I ask a couple of quick questions, as long
as we are all here, we may as well maximize our opportunity.
  Dr. MEYER. Go ahead.
  Professor PLACER. You  are a real estate	
  Mr. BERWICK. Broker, salesman with Thomas 0. Myers.
  Professor PLACER. Fine. Are you a member of the Illinois Board
of—what is it?
  Mr. BERWICK. Illinois Association of Real Estate  Boards; our
organization is.
  Professor PLACER. Your organization is ?
  Mr. BERWICK. Yes.
  Professor PLACER. What is your  reaction, as a realtor, to the
suggestion made by one  of the immediately preceding  speakers
here for having some sort of a truth in real  estate transaction law,
or a disclosure provision; what is your personal reaction?
  Mr. BERWICK. I didn't know just what  he meant,  because we
certainly are regulated by law in the State, so that the truth has to
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  Professor PLACER. I think  what he has in mind, or I take  it
what he has in mind is a provision similar to the present require-
ment for violations of housing codes, for example an affirmative
statement included  in the land sale contract that this  house  is
subject to certain kinds of noise levels, or something like that.
  Mr. BERWICK. Oh, I see what you mean.  Well, they are very
obvious when you show the home. One lady would tell me, "It just
seems uncanny that every time one of you men call, that the home
is going to be shown for 2 or 3 days, I can't hear myself think,
they just zoom."
  She, for a few years, her house was for sale. Evidently the pat-
tern has changed some, but the people realize that, and what my
concern is that it is affecting my pocketbook. I am losing sales that
I never imagined I would be  losing over this noise. It is getting
louder and more frequent.
  Professor PLACER.  But from the viewpoint  of  insuring  that
prospective buyers and realtors who are engaged in the business
are fully informed, what would be your reaction  to a requirement,
a State law, what have you, Federal law, whatever	
  Mr. BERWICK. You mean if  a man moves here  from Connecticut
to buy a home he should  be  forewarned there  is such a decibel
reading in that home? Yes, I  would not  have bought in Elmhurst
when  I came from Connecticut 8 years ago with the  noise level
was what it is today.
  Professor PLACER. As a member of the real  estate profession,
would you support a legal requirement that there be that kind  of
affirmative disclosure in real estate contracts?
  Mr. BERWICK. I would really have to sell someplace else, because
now Elmhurst is a lovely town, has a great deal  to offer, but I am
afraid the noise level has increased. I, myself, would not have
moved there 8 years ago, and  I am hoping you fellows prevent the
expansion of this. I couldn't tell what the Illinois task force hopes
to do on this because I guess they are still formulating an opinion
on it, but I am against expansion, as these aldermen and mayors
are.
  Professor PLACER. What would you predict would be the view  of
the Illinois board, the Illinois Association of Real Estate Boards
on a mandatory disclosure requirement  in areas subject to noise
from aircraft operations? Would you care to comment on that?
  Mr. BERWICK. It would really hurt the homeowners in the area,
like under the  flight pattern  in Wood  Dale, in some  sections  of
Bensenville—Mayor Varble could tell you it would  really, if the
Government were  going to subsidize them, like I  heard they did
for sonic booms, that might be fine, but I would  hate to hurt those
people more than they are, because they are taking a loss, they are
taking a beating.
  For example, this particular woman whose house I must  have
shown two dozen times, because I  felt  it was a good value,  even
despite that, took a loss. I would say her house was sold for $4,000
less and took 2 years to sell.
   Dr.  WHITCOMB. Aren't you saying what  would be bad for one
group of people?
   Mr. BERWICK. The  homeowners would suffer.
   Dr. WHITCOMB.  The buyers would find it very bad, so you  can't
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  Mr. BERWICK. Now, I had attended this pollution conference in
Washington in the early sixties, so I elected to move straight west
of Elmhurst to escape Gary, and 7 miles south of the airport to
escape the fumes. I understand one jet airplane equals 3,000 auto-
mobiles, so I  thought I  was making a good choice ecologically 8
years ago,  but now this airport has expanded a  great deal, so I
came down here to let you know that it is affecting us in Elmhurst.
  Professor PLACER. Thank you.
  Mr. BERWICK. Thank you.
  Dr. MEYER. Thank you very much. Is Mr. Vernon Lindahl here?
Mr. Lindahl?
   (No response.)
  Dr. MEYER. We have two statements that  we will put  in the
record, one from Congressman Mikva and the other from  Alder-
man Despres.

       STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN ABNER J. MIKVA,
SECOND DISTRICT, ILLINOIS BEFORE THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL
    PROTECTION AGENCY, REGION IV, HEARINGS ON NOISE
           POLLUTION, CHICAGO, ILL., JULY 29, 1971.
  Congressman MIKVA.  In one way or another, all of us are here
to make some noise about noise. Peace and quiet have become such
rare and precious commodities in this country that their pursuit
is now a Federal case.  Noise has made them rare commodities,
noise-—incessant or occasional, in the factory or in the home.
  It is almost impossible to escape it in urban America. Very few
people have developed an immunity to it. Noise is one thing  that is
almost everywhere—the United States is immersed in  what one
expert called  "acoustic anarchy." That term is rather apt. Almost
anything that "works"  in this technological society of ours  makes
noise:  vacuum cleaners, snowmobiles,  jet  planes, lawnmowers,
trucks,  the elevated trains, motorcycles,  sirens. We even  talk
louder than we have to.
  And I have been told that some rock bands have a stipulation in
their contracts that  they can  perform above a minimum  sound
level. On the decibel scale,  that level happens to be a bit  louder
than a jet plane.
  Noise is no longer a nuisance—no longer something that gets on
old people's nerves—noise is now  a public health problem  of sig-
nificant  proportions. The World Health  Organization studied the
problem recently. It  concluded that, in terms of accidents,  absen-
teeism, inefficiency and compensation claims, industrial noise alone
costs $4 billion a year. Noise can make the blood vessels constrict,
dilate the pupils, and it is a major cause of nervous stress.  And it
goes without saying that noise makes people lose their hearing.
  Noise is environmental pollution of the first order. But because
it is so pervasive, the problem is not as dramatic as black  smoke
billowing from a plant—or raw sewage streaming into a river.
One of my colleagues in Congress has called noise pollution the
stepchild of the environmental movement. That has been true—at
least until  now—but difficult to understand. You can turn your
back  and not see the smoke billowing from a factory or the
sewage in the river—but the noise: you can't turn your back on
it. And noise pollution  is no less harmful, no  less menacing than
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  The right to a quiet,  peaceful environment—free from the in-
trusion of unwanted and harmful noise, is as basic as the right to
clean air, clean water and pure food. We reached a point several
years  ago with air and water pollution  where we simply  said
"enough," and we began demanding legislation to clean up the air
and the water. I hope we finally are reaching that same point with
noise pollution. The only alternative is to resign ourselves to living
in what amounts to a coast-to-coast boiler factory.
  Urban noise has doubled since  1955—it may double again by
1980. Perhaps as many  as 20 million people in this country have
some kind  of hearing impairment—primarily  because  of excess
noise. Perhaps as many as  16 million  workers labor under  con-
ditions unsafe  for  hearing. Current laws do not really protect
citizens from the dangers of excess noise.  The Environmental
Protection  Agency  has  taken  some steps in the right  direction.
Hearings like this  one  call attention to the problem. But more
legislation is needed.
  Congress has the responsibility here. And I would like to take a
few minutes to  tell you what we are trying to dp about it. This
session, I cosponsored a package of four bills designed to combat
the noise pollution crisis in the United States. I will explain each
one briefly.
  The first is the Office of Noise Abatement and Control Appropri-
ations Bill  (H.R. 6985). In 1970, amendments to the Clean Air
Act authorized $30 million for such a noise control office, but the
administration has refused to request the money. This fiscal year,
for example,  only  $300,000 were allocated. This  new  bill  will
guarantee the complete  use of the funds for the control office.
  Next is the Noise Abatement and Control Act  of  1971 (H.R.
6987). The appropriations bill gives the noise abatement and  con-
trol office the money—this act gives the office the power and the
responsibility to attack noise  pollution directly.  It  directs  the
office to set standards for all machinery making noise that  may
endanger the public health, and  it gives  the office the power to
enforce those standards. The  act  also makes it possible for the
Federal Government to help local governments combat the noise
problem at their own level.
  The Occupational Noise Control Act of 1971 (H.R. 6991) is the
third part of the package. Prolonged exposure to noise levels above
85 decibels can  result in permanent hearing damage. Yet, under
the present standards, 90 decibels is the limit for normal factory
operation. This act would change that. It  requires the Secretary
of Labor to set standards reducing the noise level by 10 decibels—
that means that the noise is cut in half. The noise pollution bill
offered by the Nixon administration is weaker than this. It is not
as inclusive—it is not as forceful—it does not allow for stricter
standards at the local levels of government.
  The fourth and last section is the Noise Disclosure Act (H.R.
6989). One of the prime reasons that noise has increased so much
over the last few decades is that the consumer has been unable to
get reliable information on product noise. This bill would require
all new mechanical and electrical equipment, with  but a few ex-
ceptions, to  carry  a label indicating its  operational noise level.
The consumer can then take the noise level into account before he
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to come up with a "quieter" product. I am placing a copy of the
four bills in the record of this hearing.
  These bills will not become law—the cities will not  get  any
quieter—until we bring more  pressure to bear on public officials
—until we make the public more aware of the  health  problem
that excessive noise  represents.  We  have been studying  noise in
this country for some time now. People in Europe have been con-
cerned about it for even  longer.  History tells us that there was a
public outcry over excessive bellowing and quacking in the public
markets of England—in 1800. And  Queen Elizabeth  I was sup-
posed to have considered passing a law that prevented a  husband
from beating his wife after 10 o'clock at night. The wailing  and
crying disturbed the neighbors. We have  been  disturbed  long
enough, too.
  We have studied noise pollution—we have been concerned about
it—we know it is a major public health hazard. Now,  all  we have
to do is to do something about  it. Thank you.

    STATEMENT OF  LEON M. DESPRES, ALDERMAN, CITY OF
                          CHICAGO
  Mr. DESPRES.  Two of the worst noise  polluters in the  Chicago
area still operate almost free of noise regulations. And so far no
one in city  or State  government appeal's committed  to  tackling
them. I refer  to Chicago's  airports and the Chicago  Transit
Authority. The constitutents I represent suffer acutely from the
noise pollution of both of them. On both of them we need Federal
help.
  The Federal Government's power to act against noise emissions
from the airports is  direct and clear. Its  power to act  against the
CTA is indirect but decisive,  through Federal grants for urban
transportation.
  Three Chicago airports are within the city limits.  O'Hare di-
rectly affects 2 million people. Midway,  which the city wants to
continue to reactivate, may simply take part of the problem away
from O'Hare, but still keep it in the city. Meigs is on the lake-
front.
  In the Chicago noise ordinance, the mayor and  the  city council
squarely avoided the airport issue. Although I believe the city has
considerable  power to act on  airport noise, the city law depart-
ment said that  the  city  lacks  such power.  Consequently  the
ordinance was silent on  airports, but unfortunately the  airports
are not silent. Since the city has not acted, the Federal  Govern-
ment should act quickly;  and  it should act  because scattered
disparate  noise  regulation  by municipal bodies cannot solve the
aircraft noise  problem. Airlines attempting  to meet  varying
standards across the country may end by meeting none. It is high
time that  comprehensive, uniform, adequate  Federal  noise pollu-
tion standards be adopted for airports.
  Of similar proportions is the noise from Chicago's rapid transit
lines. In responding to the CTA noise problem, the Chicago  city
government has chosen to talk with  the CTA rather than govern
its  operations by ordinance.
  Some experts  say  that CTA rapid  transit train noise levels are
high enough to induce some hearing damage. I agree with them.
A commuter who uses the rapid transit system five  to 10 times
weekly  over a  period of years is likely to experience  hearing
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105 decibels on the A scale at 45 feet  from the track's center.
The average noise level seems  to fluctuate between  90  and 100
decibels. As the subway trains screech around curves, the noise is
worse. CTA spokesmen have said they can reduce noise somewhat,
but lack the necessary equipment and money to do an adequate
job.
  The Federal Government's direct authority  to regulate CTA
noise is uncertain; but, it does have a powerful weapon in the local
transportation grants CTA must have to survive. Under  the 1969
"National Environmental Policy Act," major Government-financed
construction must be  planned to produce minimal impact  on the
environment. Since Chicago requires heavy Federal capitalization
to construct the Central Subway and outlying distributor systems,
Federal noise criteria for public  transportation would require
Chicago to meet the criteria, or lose  Federal funds.
  We need your help to reduce noise. We ask your help. We hope
you hear us.
  Dr.  MEYER. That concludes our  schedule  of witnesses,  and I
thank  everybody who has  been here. I  have  found this to be a
very informative and useful session. I hope that we will be  able to
live up to the  expectations and  desires of people who have made
their  views known. This hearing on noise is hereby adjourned.
  (Whereupon, at 7:30 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.)
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