United States
           Environmental Protection
           Agency
              Office of
              Emergency and
              Remedial Response
.EPA/ROO/R09-88/026
September 1968
SEPA
Superfund
Record  of Decision
           South Bay Asbestos Area, CA

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  REPORT DOCUMENTATION
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ir REPORT NO.
       EPA/ROD/R09-88/026
3. Recipient's Accession No.
 4. Title and Subtitle
  SUPERFUND RECORD OF DECISION
  South Bay Asbestos, CA
  First Remedial  Action - Final
                                                 5. Report Date
                                                              09/29/88
 7. Authorti)
                                                                          8. Performing Organization Rapt.
 f. Performing Organization Name and Address
                                                                          10. Project/Task/Work Unit No.
                                                                          11. Contract(C) or Grant(G) No.

                                                                          (C)

                                                                          (G)
 12. Sponsoring Organization Name and Address
  U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
  401 M Street,  S.W.
  Washington,  D.C.  20460
                                                 13. Type of Report & Period Covered

                                                  800/000
                                                                          14.
 15. Supplementary Notes
 16. Abstract (Limit: 200 words)
    The South  Bay Asbestos  (SBA) site is  located at the  northern end  of the Santa  Clara
  Valley and at the southernmost extent of  San Francisco Bay, in Alviso,  California.  The
  site is within  an area of  approximately 330 acres, and is comprised of a mixture of
  residential,  commercial, light industrial,  and agricultural land  uses.   Approximately
  1,700 residents live in Alviso.  The site is comprised of a ring  levee, which  extends
  around the community of Alviso on the east, north and  northwest.  It is approximately
  four to twelve  feet in height, two miles  in length, has a trapezoidal shape, and covers
  an  area of about eight acres.   A narrow path exists along the crest of the levee.  The
  levee was built by the City of San Jose in  1983 during a major flood caused by the
  Coyote Creek  and the Guadalupe River.   It lies within  the 100-year  flood plain of the
  Guadalupe River and was constructed on  portions of wetland areas  adjacent to the
  community of  Alviso.  It also  abuts wetland areas next to a national wildlife  refuge
  near Alviso.   In August 1983,  an excavation occurred on property  owned by the  City of
  San Jose involving the construction of  an outfall structure at the  Guadalupe River
  levee.  The  excavation revealed asbestos  contamination ranging from 20 to 40 percent by
  area.  Contaminated soil was removed between August and December  1983.   A September 1983
  soil sampling also revealed the presence  of asbestos contamination  throughout  the
  (See Attached Sheet)
 17. Document Analysis . a.. Descriptors
  Record of  Decision
  South Bay  Asbestos, CA
  First Remedial  Action -  Final
  Contaminated  Media:  soil
  Key Contaminants:  asbestos
    b. Identifiers/Open-Ended Terms
   e. COSATI Reid/Group
 18. Availability Statement
                                                          19. Security Class (This Report)
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                                                          20. Security Class (This Page)
                                                             None
                                                            21. No. of Pages
                                                              235
                                                                                     22. Price
(See ANSI-239.18)
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First Remedial Action - Final

16.  ABSTRACT (continued)

community of Alviso, including the ring levee.  As a result, EPA sprayed the ring levee
with a polymer dust suppressant to control asbestos dust in May 1986, in 1987, and again
in July 1988.  The primary contaminant of concern affecting the soil is asbestos.

  The selected remedial action for the ring levee includes:  stripping and rough grading
of the levee; placement of a compacted soil layer and a top soil cover followed by
revegetation to prevent erosion; alteration of the side slopes and construction of a
three-foot wide path on the crest of the levee; implementation of strict asbestos/dust
control measures during the entire construction operation; and implementation of deed
restrictions.  The estimated present worth cost for this remedial action is $2,374,700
with annual O&M of $19,000.

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          RECORD OF DECISION




       RINO LEVEE OPERABLE UNIT




SOUTH BAY ASBESTOS AREA SUPERFUND SITE




ALVISO  DISTRICT,  SAN JOSE,  CALIFORNIA




            September 1988

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                        TABLE OF CONTENTS
SECTION	PAGE





DECLARATION                                                 1



RECORD OF DECISION SUMMARY                                  5



     I.    Site Name, Location, and Description             5



     II.   Site History                                     7



     III.  Enforcement Activities                           9



     IV.   Summary of Risks                                 9



     V.    ARARs                                           10



     VI.   Description of the Alternatives                 14



     VII.  Selected Remedy                                 22



     VIII. Statutory Determinations                        2.3



     IX.   Future Actions                                  23



     X.    Schedule                                        23
                           Attachments



                   Administrative Record Index



                      Responsiveness Summary

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                       RECORD OF DECISION

Site Name

Alviso Ring Levee
Operable Unit
South Bay Asbestos Area

Site Location

Community of Alviso
San Jose, California


Statement of Basis and Purpose

     This document represents the selected remedial action for
this Operable Unit of the South Bay Asbestos Area, in the com-
munity of Alviso, located in San Jose, California.  This document
was developed in accordance with the Comprehensive Environmental
Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980 (CERCLA),  as
amended by the Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of
1986 (SARA), and the National Contingency Plan (40 CFR Part 300).
This decision is based on the administrative record for this
site.  The attached index (Exhibit 1) identifies the items on
which the selection of the remedial action is based.


Description of Selected Remedy

     This Record of Decision addresses the asbestos contamination
present in the Alviso Ring Levee located in the South Bay Asbes-
tos Area.  EPA is undertaking an additional Feasibility Study to
evaluate remedial action alternatives for the entire South Bay
Asbestos Area and will select a remedy for the entire site in a
separate Record of Decision.

     The ring levee is constructed of asbestos containing rock
and soil.  Analysis of soil samples collected from the ring levee
using polarized light microscopy shows the asbestos levels in the
soil to ranging from non-detect to 40%.  Because of the limited
precision and accuracy of the PLM analytical method, the soil
concentrations reported are considered qualitative; notwithstand-
ing these limitations, the data confirmed that in some areas of
the levee asbestos concentrations were very high.  Asbestos is a
known human carcinogen and has been shown to cause lung cancer

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and mesothelioma, a cancer of the lung lining.  If the asbestos
in the ring levee remains uncontrolled, a potential for human ex-
posure to asbestos and a potential increased risk to human health
will continue to exist.

     EPA has selected a soil cover as the remedy for the ring
levee contamination.  EPA's preferred remedial action alternative
had been a soil/gunite combination cover.  Concerns raised by
community members regarding the aesthetics, the possibility of
personal injury to children riding their bikes and skateboards on
the gunite, plus concerns raised by U.S. Fish and Wildlife
regarding the gunite covered portion of the levee limiting
wildlife shelter or habitat along the levee, made EPA re-evaluate
its preferred alternative.

     Because of these concerns, EPA has eliminated the gunite
portions and selected a soil cover as the remedy.  This remedial
action alternative will control the release of asbestos emissions
and will assure long term protection of human health and the en-
vironment.  The present worth cost of the alternative is
$2,374,700 based upon a 4% interest rate, with a 30-year discount
period.  This alternative entails:

     - stripping and rough grading the existing levee,

     - placing a minimum of 12 inches of compacted soil
       over the levee

     - placing 6 inches of topsoil over the compacted soil,

     - planting native vegetation on the levee to control
       erosion,

     - implementing all necessary environmental mitigation
       required under Section 404 of the Clean Water Act for
       impacts of the soil cover on wetlands and endangered
       species habitat,

     - deed restrictions, to prevent the disturbances of the
       soil cover and possible release of asbestos fibers,
       shall be placed on property on which the ring levee
       and soil cover exists.

The cost for environmental mitigation was not included in the
$2,374,700 cost estimate for the alternative, since its nature,
scope, and cost remain to be determined; however, mitigation was
a factor in all of the alternatives considered, and does not af-
fect the relative cost comparisons.  The potentially responsible
parties (PRPs) will be responsible for all costs including any
cost associated with wetland mitigation.

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     Design for this operable unit will entail the selected
remedy described above plus strict dust control measures to limit
the release of asbestos fibers from the ring levee during the
Remedial Action.

     Operation and maintenance activities will be required to en-
sure the effectiveness of the response action.  These activities
include periodic maintenance of the vegetation until it becomes
self-maintaining (this is anticipated to take one year),  and
semi-annual visual inspections to ensure the integrity of the
soil cover and any necessary repair work of the soil cover.  In
the event of a natural disaster (flood or earthquake) necessary
repairs will be made to ensure that the asbestos is contained.
These costs will again be the responsibility of the potentially
responsible parties.

     The potentially responsible parties have indicated an inter-
est in pursuing the complete removal of the levee, an option that
EPA did not select due to its high cost, the proportionally
greater potential for asbestos releases during removal operation,
the institutional, regulatory, and technical problems associated
with replacing the levee's flood protection function, and the
difficulties associated with disposing of the removed material.
Complete removal of the levee, assuming it can be accomplished in
a safe manner, would be at least as protective as the selected
soil cover remedy and would be a permanent solution.  Should the
PRPs formally propose to implement removal despite its higher
cost and identify acceptable solutions to the problems associated
with it, EPA may amend this ROD to select the removal option.
Input from other government agencies and the community would be
sought before implementing a removal remedy.


Declaration

     Consistent with CERCLA as amended by SARA, and the National
Contingency Plan, I have determined that the selected remedy for
the Alviso Ring Levee, Operable Unit of the South Bay Asbestos
Area, meets the remedy selection standards in CERCLA Section 121,
42 U.S.C. Section 9621, by being protective of human health.  I
also have determined that the selected remedy meets the ap-
plicable or relevant and appropriate environmental statutes and
regulations, and that it is cost effective.  The selected remedy
utilizes permanent solutions to the maximum extent practicable
for this site.  Alternative treatment technology of the asbestos
contamination in the Alviso Ring Levee was determined to be im-
practicable based upon effectiveness, technical feasibility, ira-
plementability and cost factors.

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     Because this remedy will result in hazardous substances
remaining on site, a review, pursuant to CERCLA Section 121, 42
U.S.C. Section 9621, will be conducted five years after commence-
ment of remedial action to ensure that the remedy continues to
provide adequate protection of human health and the environment.
Daniel W. McGovern                                   Date
Regional Administrator
EPA Region IX

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                        RECORD OF DECISION
                             SUMMARY

I.  Site Name. Location, and Description

   The South Bay Asbestos site is located at the northern end of
the Santa Clara Valley and at the southernmost extent of San
Francisco Bay (Figure 1).  The site, which includes the community
of Alviso, is a mix of residential, commercial, light industrial
and agricultural land uses, comprising an area of about 330 acres
(Figure 2).  Alviso is the northernmost neighborhood or section
of the City of San Jose.  The older section of Alviso, located
west of Gold Street and north of the Guadalupe River, is a desig-
nated National Register Historic District.   Approximately 1,700
residents live in Alviso.  The town is located in a quiet section
of the Silicon Valley between Highway 237 to the south, rapidly-
growing Santa Clara to the west and south,  and expanding "hi-
tech" office development to the east and northeast.

     A major aspect of the site is its susceptibility to flood-
ing.  Flooding occurs because of the site's proximity to the Bay
and land subsidence due to ground water extraction in the
vicinity.  Flood-producing storms occur within the study area
every few years, as evidenced by historical records and newspaper
accounts.  Two major streams enter the Bay in the vicinity of the
site, including the Guadalupe River west and south of Alviso and
Coyote Creek to the northeast.  These rivers do not provide
natural local drainage since they are surrounded by levees on
both sides to prevent overbank flooding.  The Guadalupe River was
channelized in 1963 by the Santa Clara Valley Water District
(SCVWD) to provide for greater flood flow capacity.  The streams
are under tidal action and, therefore, discharge to the Bay is
impeded during high tides.  Numerous salt evaporation ponds are
present between Alviso and the Bay, further impeding natural
drainage into the Bay.

     The development of agriculture in the region was facilitated
by widespread ground water withdrawal from irrigation wells.  Be-
tween 1934 and 1967, the ground surface of the Santa Clara Valley
generally subsided four to six feet and in some locations to an
elevation below sea level due to aquifer compaction, sig-
nificantly increasing the potential for flooding.  The land sur-
face of most of Alviso has been artificially raised with soil and
debris fill to offset the effects of subsidence.

     The community of Alviso is adjacent to wetlands.  Over the
last century, most of the tidal flats and marshlands which sur-
round San Francisco Bay have been filled or altered.  Near Al-
viso, a fragment of the marshland survives as the New Chicago
Marsh, a National Wildlife Refuge about 300 acres in size.  The

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                                Source: Operating Unit Feasibility Study,
                                       Alviso Area; Project WC85-f92;
                                       Figure 1. Canonie Engineers,
                                       February, 1987.
Project No.

288-ER2
  South Bay Asbestos  Site
   REGIONAL
LOCATION  MAP
Camp  Dresser & McKee Inc

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                                                                                                 AGRICULTURAL LAND
                                                                                              OHEIL TRACT
                                                               EXISTING RING LEVEE
                                                                                                                         South Bay  Asbestos Slta
                                                                                                                          SITE LOCATION MAP
                                                                                                                         SHOWING RINQ  LEVEE
0   300  600
                                                                            NOTC: BASE MAT ADAPTED FROM CANONIE
                                                                                REPORT. FEBRUARY. l(l«.
Camp Crasser & McKaa
APPROXIMATE SCALE IN FEET

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Refuge has an active public education program through its En-
vironmental Education Center, located about a mile northeast of
the town and administered by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
(USFWS).  The ring levee, although not located in the Refuge
proper, was constructed on portions of the wetland areas and
abuts wetland areas which are adjacent to the Refuge and
hydraulically connected to it.

     The wetlands adjacent to Alviso are a significant wildlife
habitat because they provide an interface between fresh and
saltwater environments.  The wetlands support several endangered
or threatened species, including the Salt Marsh Harvest Mouse
(Reithrodontomys raviventris), Golden Eagle (Aquila Chrysaetos),
and Peregrine Falcon (Falco Peregrinus).  The burrowing owl is a
"protected species of special concern."  Small mammals and a
great number of birds and waterfowl species use the wetlands and
surrounding "upland habitats", i.e., land elevated a few feet
above the marsh.

Description of the Levee

     The ring levee, which extends around the community of Alviso
on the east, north, and northwest (Figure 2), is approximately
four to twelve feet in height, two miles in length, and has a
trapezoidal shape.  The levee has side slopes generally steeper
than 2:1, and covers an area of approximately eight acres.  A
narrow, approximately two-foot wide path exists along the crest.

     The ring levee immediately adjoins School Street, the homes
on the eastern side of Alviso (the O'Neil Tract), and continues
along Grand Blvd. and Spreckles Ave.  The levee is removed from
public streets along the northwest, where it borders the commer-
cial trucking operations along State Street.  The steep outboard
or bayward side of the levee abuts wetlands areas along Spreckles
Avenue and along the commercial truckyard operations.  At its
western end, the levee borders two private homes.  One home owner
has fenced the levee to prevent foot traffic.  The levee ter-
minates at the boat launching marina at the northwestern end of
town.

     The levee immediately adjacent to streets and homes is used
heavily as a pedestrian walkway.  Residents, and particularly
children, have been seen walking and jogging along the berm,
playing on the slopes, picnicking or riding bicycles on or ad-
jacent to the levee.  The levee in these areas is barren of
vegetation.  In addition, it appears that motor vehicles may also
drive over the levee.  Areas removed from public access tend to
be we11-vegetated with grasses and weeds.

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II.  Site History

     The City of San Jose constructed the ring levee during a
flood in March 1983, which caused the evacuation of the entire
town for sixteen days as flood waters overtopped the Coyote Creek
channels and existing levees.  The ring levee was constructed in
an attempt to divert existing and possible future flood waters
from the community.  Because of the urgency of the situation, San
Jose did not obtain the necessary permits from the Army Corps of
Engineers (COE) who has jurisdiction over such construction, and
without consultation with other federal and state agencies.  San
Jose plans to obtain an "after the fact" permit from COE;
however, it has not as of this date.   EPA's remedial action for
the ring levee is not connected in any way with San Jose's or any
other agencies' plans to provide flood control protection for the
community.

History of Site Investigations and Response Actions

     In August of 1983, the Santa Clara Valley Water District
(SCVWD) initiated construction of an outfall structure at the
Guadalupe River levee.  Excavation occurred on property owned by
the City of San Jose and SCVWD.  The activity was observed by a
California Occupational Safety and Health Administration (CAL-
OSHA) inspector.  The inspector collected samples of the ex-
cavated material because he suspected the material to be asbestos
waste debris.  The samples were analyzed by the Department of
Health Services (DHS) Air and Industrial Hygiene Laboratory and
they confirmed the inspector's suspicions.  The samples contained
concentrations of asbestos ranging from 20 to 40% by area.  Since
CAl-OSHA's jurisdiction only extends to protection of employees,
they referred the situation to DHS.  After confirming the
presence of asbestos in the Guadalupe River levee, DHS ordered
SCVWD to remove all the asbestos contaminated soil.  Removal of
the contaminated soil took place between August and December
1983.

     In September 1983, DHS collected soil samples from 20 random
locations within the community of Alviso.  The sample results in-
dicated that asbestos was randomly distributed throughout the
community of Alviso, including the Alviso Ring Levee.  Based on
the soil results, DHS initiated  California Hazardous Waste Site
Ranking procedures to include the community on the State Super-
fund list. The Community was listed 10th on the State Superfund
list in December of 1983.

     In June of 1984, EPA proposed the site for inclusion on the
National Priority List.  The site was approved for the NPL in Oc-
tober 1984, with a score of 44.68.

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     In June and September 1985, DHS conducted "worst case"
scenario field experiments at the ring levee to determine if the
asbestos present in the levee could pose a significant health
risk.  DHS forwarded the results to EPA which in turn forwarded
the results to the Department of Health and Human Services,
Agency for Toxic Substances Control and Disease Registry (ATSDR).
ATSDR recommended that remedial measures be implemented to
"stabilize those sites to prevent the asbestos from being
suspended in the air where residents may inhale the fibers."

     Based on the results generated by DHS' field experiments,
DHS initiated an Operable Unit Feasibility Study (OUFS) to select
a permanent remedy.  Meanwhile, EPA agreed to implement interim
remedial measures at the ring levete.  EPA sprayed the ring levee
with a polymer dust suppressant to control asbestos dust in May
1986.

     DHS' OUFS was completed in April 1986 and recommended a
clean soil cover for the levee.  However, later that year, DHS
determined that remedial funds were not available and referred
the ring levee and the remainder of the site to EPA for further
investigation and possible remediation.

     EPA initiated a Remedial Investigation/Feasibility Study for
the entire South Bay Asbestos site in 1986.  The RI/FS should be
completed in November 1988.

     EPA sprayed the ring levee with a dust suppressing polymer
again in 1987.  In July 1988, the ring levee was sprayed again,
this time by the City of San Jose.

     In April 1988, EPA released the Operable Unit Feasibility
Study (OUFS) on the Alviso ring levee for public comment.  The
OUFS, which drew upon the DHS study, identified in greater detail
the two outstanding non-engineering issues confronting the
remedial action:  access and easements, and impacts to wetland
and endangered species habitat.  EPA data utilized in the OUFS
was collected, analyzed, and reviewed in accordance with approved
EPA Region 9 quality assurance procedures.  Data quality limita-
tions inherent in asbestos sampling and analytical methods were
considered in EPA's interpretation and use of the data in the
decision-making process.

Community Relations

     All required community relations activities were conducted,
A history of the community relations activities at the South Bay
Asbestos Area, the background on the community involvement and
concerns, and specific comments on the OUFS and EPA's responses
are found in the Responsiveness Summary.

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III. Enforcement Activities

     EPA has identified two potentially responsible parties, the
City of San Jose and Raische Company.  San Jose constructed the
levee and Raische Company was the supplier of the material,  in
July 1987, a general notice letter was sent to San Jose.  Subse-
quent negotiations between EPA and San Jose have resulted in a
CERCLA Administrative Agreement (Docket No. 88-15) in which San
Jose agreed to spray the ring levee with a dust suppressant until
a permanent remedy is selected.

     In February 1988, EPA sent the Raische Company, the supplier
of the fill material, a general notice letter.  Special notice
letters pursuant to CERCLA Section 122, were sent in August 1988.
Negotiations are on-going with both parties for the remedial
design and remedial action for the Ring Levee Operable Unit.

IV.  Summary of Risks Posed by the Ring Levee

     Asbestos is the contaminant of concern at this site.  The
ring levee has been identified as one of the primary sources of
asbestos within the community.  Concentrations of asbestos in the
levee range from non-detect to 40% by area using polarized light
microscopy.

     Asbestos is a generic term referring to two groups of
naturally-occurring hydrated silicate minerals having a fibrous
crystalline structure.  Chrysotile fibers belong to the serpen-
tine group; actinolite, amosite, anthophyllite, crocidolite, and
tremolite belong to the amphibole group.  Commingtonite has the
same composition as anthophyllite but belongs to a different
crystal class, has higher specific gravity and contains more
iron.  Asbestos fibers are widely used for their high tensile
strength and flexibility and for their noncombustible, noncon-
ducting, and chemical-resistant properties.  The fibers have been
used in insulation, brake linings, floor tile, plastics, cement
pipe, paper products, textiles, and building products.

     Asbestos is one of the few known human carcinogens and also
causes other lung diseases.  Asbestos has been examined in
numerous epidemiological studies.  The diseases that have been
identified are asbestosis, lung cancer and mesothelioma.  Also
associated with asbestos exposure in some studies are cancers of
the larynx, pharynx, gastrointestinal tract, kidney, and ovary as
well as respiratory diseases such as pneumonia.

     Lung cancer is currently responsible for the largest number
of deaths from exposure to asbestos.  It has been associated with
exposure to all the principal commercial asbestos fiber types.
Excess lung cancer has been documented in groups  involved with

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the mining and milling of asbestos and the manufacture and use of
asbestos products.  Studies in which the extent of exposure can
be approximated provide evidence that lung  cancer increases
linearly with both level and duration of exposure.

     Human studies  have also shown that exposures to asbestos
produce mesotheliomas, which are cancers that occur as thick dif-
fuse masses in the serous membranes (mesothelia) that line body
cavities.  Mesothelioma occur in the pleura (the membrane that
surrounds the lungs and lines the lung cavity) and the peritoneum
(which surrounds the abdominal cavity).  Epidemiology studies
suggest that the incidence of mesothelioma is related to dose and
time from first exposure.

     Asbestosis, which involves fibrosis of lung and pleural
tissues, is another serious chronic disease associated  with ex-
posure to asbestos.  There  is no effective treatment for asbes-
tosis and it is often debilitating or fatal.  Asbestosis can ap-
pear and progress decades after exposure to asbestos fibers.  A
full discussion of the health effects of asbestos is found in the
EPA document Airborne Asbestos Health Assessment Update. June
1986.

     Inhalation is the exposure route of concern for the asbestos
present in the ring levee.  The asbestos present in the soil must
be rendered airborne and then inhaled to pose a health risk.  The
DHS field experiments showed that asbestos could be released into
the air.  DHS used mechanical means to simulate wind erosion and
children playing on  the ring levee.  Such activity-specific sam-
pling in this particular instance could be defined as an "acute
worst case" scenario.  The asbestos air concentrations as a
result of the experiment clearly show that asbestos can be
released from the ring levee and therefore, pose a potential
health risk to people at or nearby the activity occurring on the
ring levee.

     One limitation of this study is that as an acute worst case,
the study may over-estimate typical chronic exposures from ac-
tivities involving the levee.  Nonetheless, because asbestos is a
known human carcinogen with no acceptable known threshold level
for environmental exposure and that the potential for release of
asbestos from the ring levee is high, EPA believes that a poten-
tial significant health risk exists from the levee.  Therefore,
remedial action is warranted.

V.  Applicable or Relevant and Appropriate Requirements (ARARs)

     Under Section 121(d)(l) of CERCLA, 42 U.S.C. Section  9621
(d)(1), remedial actions must attain a degree of clean-up which
assures protection of human health and the environment.  Addi-

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tionally, remedial actions that leave any hazardous substance,
pollutant, or contaminant on-site must meet, upon completion of
the remedial action, a level or standard of control that at least
attains standards, requirements, limitations, or criteria that
are "applicable or relevant and appropriate" under the cir-
cumstances of the release.  These requirements, known as "ARARs"
may be waived in certain instances,  as stated in Section
I21(d)(4) of CERCLA, 42 U.S.C. Section 9621(d)(4).

     Section 121(d) of CERCLA, 42 U.S.C. Section 9621(d) requires
that the selected remedy complies with Federal and State substan-
tive requirements.  A less stringent level or standard of control
may be employed if the remedial action is only part of a total
remedial action (as is the case with the Ring Levee OUFS),  that
will attain such level or standard of control when completed.
Additionally, the state requirements can be waived if a State has
not consistently applied or demonstrated the intent to consis-
tently apply a requirement in similar circumstances at other
remedial actions within the state, CERCLA Section 121(d)(4)(E),
42 U.S.C. Section 9621(d)(4)(E).  Federal, state or local permits
do not need to be obtained for removal or remedial actions imple-
mented on site, CERCLA Section 121(e), 42 U.S.C. Section 9621(E).
"On-site" is interpreted by EPA to include the aereal extent of
contamination and all suitable areas in reasonable proximity to
the contamination necessary for implementation of the response
action.

     The definition of "applicable" and "relevant or appropriate"
requirements from the National Contingency Plan (40 CFR Section
300.6 derived from 1986) ("NCP").  "Applicable" requirements are
those clean-up standards, standards of control and other substan-
tive environmental protection requirements, criteria, or limita-
tions promulgated under federal or state law that specifically
address a hazardous substance, pollutant or contaminant, remedial
action, location, or other circumstances at a CERCLA site.
"Relevant and appropriate" requirements are clean-up standards,
standards of control and other substantive environmental protec-
tion requirements, criteria, or limitations promulgated under
federal or state law that, while not "applicable" to a .hazardous
substance, pollutant, contaminant, remedial action, location, or
other circumstances at a CERCLA site, address problems or situa-
tions sufficiently similar to those encountered at the CERCLA
site that their use is well-suited to the particular site.   For
example, requirements may be relevant and appropriate if they
would be "applicable" but for jurisdictional restrictions as-
sociated with the requirement.

     The determination of which requirements are  "relevant and
appropriate" is somewhat flexible.  EPA and the State may look to
the type of remedial actions contemplated, the hazardous sub-

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stances present, the waste characteristics, the physical charac-
teristics  of the site, and other appropriate factors.  It is
possible for only part of a requirement to be considered relevant
and appropriate.  Additionally, only substantive requirements
need be followed (see the preamble to the National Oil and Haz-
ardous Substance Contingency Plan, 40 CFR Part 300, 1985 Federal
Register page 47,946).  If no ARAR covers a particular situation,
or if an ARAR is not sufficient to protect human health or the
environment, then non-promulgated standards, criteria, guidance,
and advisories must be used to provide a protective remedy.

     There are three types of ARARs.  The first type includes
"contaminant specific" requirements.  These ARARS set limits on
concentrations of specific hazardous substance, pollutants, and
contaminants in the environment.  Examples of this type of ARAR
are ambient water quality criteria and drinking water standards.
A second type of ARAR includes location-specific requirements
which set restrictions on certain types of activities based on
site characteristics.  These include restrictions on activities
in wetlands, floodplains, and historic sites.  The third type of
ARAR includes action-specific requirements.  These are
technology-based restrictions which are triggered by the type of
action under consideration.  Examples of action-specific ARARs
are Resource Conservation and Recovery Act  (RCRA) regulations for
waste treatment, storage, and disposal.

ARAR Identification Process

     ARARs must be identified on a site-specific basis from in-
formation about specific chemicals at the site, specific features
of the site, and actions that are being considered as remedies.

     EPA and the State of California reviewed, respectively,
federal and state laws, standards, requirements, criteria, and
limitations for possible application to the Alviso Ring Levee,
Operable Unit.  Tables 2-1 and 2-2 in the OUFS contain a listing
of the potential ARARs screened by EPA and the State.  These
charts identify each potential ARAR and whether or not it is
"applicable" or "relevant and appropriate."

     ARARs identified for the Operable Unit address emission of
asbestos fibers from contaminated soils, inhalation of asbestos
fibers, and disposal of contaminated soils.

Contaminant-Specific ARARs For Asbestos;

1.  Toxic Substances Control Act  (AHERA1

    The AHERA final rules apply to asbestos abatement in schools.
    Local education agencies must determine if asbestos is pre-

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    sent in concentrations greater than one percent using
    Polarized Light Microscopy (PLM) and determine what the
    appropriate response action will be.

2.  Clean Air Act. National Emission Standard for Hazardous Air
    Pollutants fNESHAPsI

    Asbestos is identified as a hazardous air contaminant.
    NESHAPs regulations for inactive asbestos disposal sites
    require "no visible emissions" or specified types of con-
    tainment cover to eliminate emissions.

3.  Bay Area Air Quality Management District Regulations

    Similar to NESHAPs, this regulation (Reg. 11, Rule 2) re-
    quires "no visible emissions" and provides cover require-
    ments and handling procedures for asbestos material.

Location-Specific ARARs;

Physical characteristics of the site influence the type and loca-
tion of remedial responses considered.  The location-specific
ARARs relate to fish and wildlife, wetlands, floodplains, and ac-
tivities in navigable waters.

1.  The Endangered Species Act of 1973 and regulations at 50 CFR
    Sections 17. 402 (Section 7 Consultation) and 424

    When a project potentially impacts an endangered species or
    critical habitat, the Section 7 Consultation process is
    triggered.  The formal process requires contact with USFWS
    to request a list of endangered species and critical habitat,
    preparation of a biological.assessment that evaluates poten-
    tial effects of the action, and formal consultation with
    USFWS that results in issuance of the USFWS biological
    opinion.  Generally, under Section 7, activities carried
    out by Federal agencies should not jeopardize the continued
    existence of an endangered species or cause adverse modifi-
    cations of critical habitat.

2.  Clean Water Act. Section 404  (33 U.S.C. Section 1344) as
    regulated by the COE. and Executive Orders 11988. 11990.
    Protection of Wetlands and Floodplains

    The fundamental precept of the 404(b)(l) Guidelines  (40 CFR
    230 et. seq.) is that dredged or fill material should not
    be discharged into aquatic ecosystems  (in this case wetlands)
    unnecessarily.  The 404(b)(l) Guidelines require no discharge
    of dredged or fill material if 1) a practicable alternative
    exists that would have less or no adverse impact on the

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    wetland; 2) the continued existence of an endangered species
    is jeopardized; 3) it causes or contributes to significant
    degradation to the wetland; or, 4)  appropriate steps to
    minimize adverse impacts are not taken.

3.  USFWS Mitigation Policy (FR 7644-7663. Vol. 46. No. 15.
    January 1981)

    This is triggered in accordance with the Fish and Wildlife
    Act of 1956, Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act, Watershed
    Protection and Flood Prevention Act, and National Environ-
    mental Policy Act.  The mitigation policy defines four
    resource categories and establishes mitigation goals and
    guidelines for each.  USFWS has determined that
    the wetlands near Alviso would probably fall within Resource
    Category 2 for which the mitigation goal is no net loss of
    in-kind habitat value.  Guidelines to achieve the goal in-
    clude avoiding or minimizing habitat loss, immediate recti-
    fication or reduction of habitat loss, or replacement of
    in-kind habitat.

Action Specific ARARS;

1.  Occupational Safety and Health Administration  (OSHA1

    OSHA has set a permissible exposure limit  (PEL) for all
    asbestos fibers at 0.2 fiber per cc for occupational
    exposed workers.  The action level is 0.1 fiber per cc.

VI. Description of the Alternatives

Alternatives Evaluation

     EPA evaluated potential remedial action alternatives for the
ring levee primarily by progressing through the series of
analyses which are outlined in the National Contingency Plan
(NCP), in particular, 40 CFR Section  300.68, the Interim
Guidance on Superfund Selection of Remedy, December 24, 1986 OS-
WER Directive No. 9355.0-19).  This process, in part, enables EPA
to address the CERCLA Section 121 requirements of selecting a
remedial action that is protective of human health and the en-
vironment, that is cost-effective, that attains Federal and State
health and environmental requirements that are applicable or
relevant  and appropriate, and that utilizes permanent solutions
and alternative treatment technologies or resource recovery tech-
nologies to the maximum extent practicable.  Additionally, CERCLA
Section 121(B)(1) requires that EPA assess and give preference to
permanent solutions and alternative treatment technologies or
resource recovery technologies that, in whole or in part, will
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mobility, or volume of the hazardous  substance, pollutant, or
contaminant.  As part of! this process, EPA evaluated permanent
solutions to the problems associated with the asbestos present in
the ring levee.

     Based upon site characteristics, EPA was able to scope, from
the universe of all possible response actions, a set of response
actions and associated technologies to be considered for the Al-
viso ring levee.  An example of this scoping was the elimination
of biological treatment from further consideration because
biological processes capable of detoxicifying asbestos con-
taminated soil do not exist.  Section 2.4 of the OUFS discusses
the scoping process in more detail and Section 2.6.1 summarizes
the results.

     The next step of the selection of remedy process is assem-
bling the remaining technologies and/or disposal options into
remedial action alternatives.  Pursuant to OSWER Directive No.
9355.0-19, "Interim Guidance on Superfund Selection of Remedy,"
remedial action alternatives are to be developed ranging from
those that would eliminate the need for long-term management
(including monitoring) at the site to alternatives involving
treatment that would reduce mobility, toxicity or volume as their
principal element.  In addition, containment options involving
little or no treatment and a no action alternative are to be
developed.  Remedial action alternatives developed in the
Operable Unit for the Interim Alviso Ring Levee were:

     1.  No Action
     2.  Soil Cover
     3.  Gunite Cover
     4.  Asphalt Cover
     5.  Chemical Soil Suppressant
     6.  Off-Site RCRA Landfill
     7.  Fixation
     8.  Vitrification
     9.  Plasma Fusion

     Alternatives 2 through 4 are containment alternatives.  Al-
ternatives 2 through 5 require long-term management and monitor-
ing.  Alternative 6, permanent disposal of contaminated soil,
would eliminate the need for long-term management, including
monitoring.  Alternatives 7, 8, and 9 involve treatment as their
principal element.  Finally, no action was included as Alterna-
tive 1.

     Initial screening, which is the next step in the selection
of remedy process, narrows the list of potential remedial action
alternatives.  Consistent with Section 300.68(g) of the NCP and
the OSWER Directives No. 9355.0-19, the remedial action alterna-

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tives developed for the ring levee were initially screened using
the criteria of cost, implementability (acceptable engineering
practices), and effectiveness.  Table 3-1 and 3-2 in the OUFS
summarize the initial screening process.   Alternatives 1, 2,  and
3 passed the initial screening and were carried forward for
detailed analysis while Alternatives 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,  and 9 were
screened out primarily for the reasons set forth below.

     The Asphalt Cover, Alternative 4, was no longer evaluated
because of the difficulty associated with implementation and the
potential for oil leaching and contamination of the wetlands.
The effectiveness of the Chemical Soil Suppressant,  Alternative
5, is unknown.  Because the chemical soil suppressant must be
re-applied at least once every year and the present worth of this
alternative is the second highest, and twice as high as the con-
tainment alternatives, this alternative was eliminated.  Alterna-
tive 6, the Off-Site Landfill Alternative has also been screened
out because capital costs are three to seven times more than the
containment and cover alternatives (See Table 3-1 in the OUFS for
cost comparison summary).  Alternatives 7, 8, and 9 potentially
fix or immobilize the asbestos within the soil.  Weathering and
traffic on the levee could free up fibers and significantly
reduce the effective life of Alternative 7; therefore, fixation
was eliminated from further analysis.  Vitrification and plasma
fusion have high costs and are difficult to implement.  These
high costs are reflective of the innovative processes involved.
High ground water levels at the site further reduce the effec-
tiveness of vitrification and limited expertise in the operation
of a plasma fusion system further increases the difficulty in the
implementation of the Plasma Fusion Alternative.  Therefore,  both
vitrification and plasma fusion have been eliminated from further
analysis.

     The following is a description of the remedial action alter-
natives surviving the initial screening:

1.  No Action Alternative

     The No Action Alternative assumes that no remedial action
would be taken to mitigate or eliminate asbestos emissions from
the ring levee.  Asbestos-containing levee soils would remain in
their present state.  The only actions which would be taken under
this alternative would be posting warning signs, installation of
barriers to prevent access across the levee, and periodic air
quality monitoring.  Signs would be placed to warn of the poten-
tial danger from human contact.  Signs were placed along the
levee by EPA when the hazard was first identified, but these
signs have since been destroyed.  A fence or suitable barrier
would be placed between the levee and the community to prevent
vehicle traffic on the levee.  Air quality monitoring would  in-
clude installation of four permanent air monitoring stations both
up and downwind of the levee to characterize contaminant migra-
tion and assess the ongoing risk to human health and the environ-
ment.

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2.  Soil Cover

     The Soil Cover Alternative involves stripping and rough
grading the existing levee, placing a minimum of 12 inches of
compacted soil over the levee, placing 6 inches of topsoil over
the compacted soil, and revegetating the levee and side slopes.
This cover thickness provides a significant root zone layer.  Na-
tive vegetation will be selected for the levee that provides ero-
sion protection and affords escape cover for the Salt Marsh Har-
vest Mouse.  Temporary irrigation will be required to establish
the vegetation.  Irrigation options include using city water, a
water truck, or pumping brackish water from the wetlands.  A
vehicle barrier (i.e., posts, barricades, riprap) will be incor-
porated into the final design to prevent access to the wetlands,
and existing vehicle access routes to the wetlands will be
fenced.

     The best suited soil type for the 12 inch compacted soil
layer on the levee is a clayey sand which is mid-range between a
clay and a gravel.  This soil type also allows a solid root zone
to establish.

3.  Gunite Cover

     Gunite is a sprayed concrete mix that provides a hard, vir-
tually impermeable textured surface when cured.  The Gunite Cover
Alternative involves stripping and rough grading the existing
levee, placing a galvanized mesh or geogrid, and spraying gunite
to a thickness of 2 inches on top and 1 1/2 inches on the sides.
The thickness would vary on the side slopes, but should be no
less than 1 1/2 inches.  As for the soil cover, vehicle access
barriers would also be required, such as a low fence constructed
of lengths of telephone poles connected by heavy chain, to keep
vehicles away from the levee.

4.  Soil/Gunite Cover

     It was determined that proper implementation of the Soil
Cover would encroach onto private property, wetlands, and street
right-of-ways.  This alternative would require obtaining several
permanent easements and it is felt that this process would be
long in duration and involve several parties.  Implementation of
the Gunite Cover Alternative, on the other hand, would require
mostly temporary construction easements but is likely to be less
favorable than the Soil Cover Alternative in visible areas and
wetland areas.  The Soil/Gunite Cover Alternative was, therefore,
developed, utilizing soil cover in high-visibility areas and
gunite cover in areas with limited work space.

     Consistent with Section 300.68(h) of the NCP, 40 CFR Section
300.68(h), the OSWER Directive No. 9355.0-19, and the OSWER
Directive No. 9355.0-21, the remedial action alternatives remain-
ing after initial screening were further refined and then sub-
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action alternative entailed evaluation based on several criteria.
EPA identified appropriate and more specific "component measures"
derived from requirements and criteria contained in Section
300.68(h)(2) of the NCP, 40 CFR Section 300.68(h)(2),  CERCLA Sec-
tions 121(b)(l)(A - G),  42 U.S.C. Section 9621(b)(l)(A - G),
CERCLA Section 121(c), 42 U.S.C. Section 9621(c),  the discussion
on detailed analysis contained in the OSWER Directive No.
9355.0-19 and the OSWER Directive No. 9355.0-21.  These are the
nine component criteria:

     1.  Protection of human health and the environment
     2.  Compliance with ARARs
     3.  Reduction of mobility, toxicity or volume
     4.  Implementability
     5.  Short-term effectiveness
     6.  Long-term effectiveness
     7.  Cost
     8.  Community acceptance
     9.  State and local agency acceptance

     The following is a discussion comparing each alternative
based on the nine criteria.

1.  Protection of Human Health and the Environment

    The No Action Alternative would not protect public health be-
cause sufficient remedial action to control the release of as-
betos fiberts into the environment would not take place.

     A cover such as alternatives 2, 3, and 4 could control the
release of asbestos fibers into the environment.  The theory is
to provide a physical barrier between the contaminant and the
potential receptors.  A soil cover, Alternative 2, would provide
immediate and long-term protection of public and the environment
with adequate maintenance, as would the soil/gunite and gunite
covers.

2.  Compliance with ARARS

     The No Action Alternative would not violate any of the iden-
tified ARARs, although the potential risk to human health and the
environment would remain.  If a remedial action is implemented,
EPA will be required by 33 U.S.C. Section 1344 to take ap-
propriate steps to minimize adverse impacts to adjacent wetlands.
EPA has identified that the soil cover (#2) as opposed to the
soil/gunite or gunite cover to be most appropriate.  EPA can
plant native vegetation on the soil cover to replace lost cover
for the wetland wildlife in addition to implementing other types
of mitigation to minimize the impact of the Operable Unit
Remedial Action.
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3.  Reduction of Mobility, Toxicity or Volume

     The No Action Alternative would not reduce mobility,
toxicity, or volume.  Alternatives 12, #3,  and #4 would reduce
the mobility of asbestos fiber into the ambient air; however,  the
Alternatives would not reduce the toxicity or volume of the as-
bestos fibers in the ring levee.   At this point in time, no reli-
able treatment technology exists to reduce asbestos mobility,
toxicity, or volume.

4.  Implementability

     One consideration of implementability is access to the site.
For Alternatives 2, 3, and 4, three different types of land ac-
cess or easements will be required.  The first type is a tem-
porary construction easement which allows access across or along
a parcel or property to enter the construction site.  The second
type of easement is a permanent easement which is a purchase
agreement allowing a structure or object, in this case the
remediated levee, to occupy an owned parcel of land.  A permanent
easement is not a land purchase but rather a one-time payment to
occupy the land area.  When property is transferred from one
owner to another, the permanent easement accompanies the sale or
transaction.  The third and final type of easement required is a
maintenance or "right-to-access" easement which is a one-time
purchase that allows access across a property (not necessarily
the one in which the permanent easement is on) to maintain a
structure or object on a permanent easement.  Maintenance ease-
ments may stipulate that the disturbed lands area be restored to
preconstruction or pre-remediation condition upon completion of
the maintenance each and every time maintenance is performed or
that a designated access route would be constructed and left in
place for future maintenance.

     The property which is covered by or adjacent to the present
ring levee is owned by approximately 29 different private and
commercial landowners or agencies.  These landowners and es-
timates of easement costs are found in Appendix F of the OUFS.
EPA has assumed that no easements would be purchased from the
City of San Jose or from Santa Clara County.  Costs for ease-
ments, including title searchs and site surveys, have been in-
cluded in the overall cost estimate for each of the alternatives.
Actual levee quantity calculation which show the amount of land
affected are shown in Appendix E of the OUFS.

     Soil Cover

     Implementation of the Soil Cover Alternative utilizes con-
ventional construction equipment and readily available materials.
Difficulties are likely to be encountered in areas where there is
limited access, and where side slopes are steep.  Most of the ex-
isting levee borders private property and sometimes straddles
property lines.  In some areas, the levee is encroaching on
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Soil Cover alternative would require an estimated 2.1 acres for
permanent and maintenance easements, resulting in 1.5 acres of
additional wetlands intrusion.  The temporary construction ease-
ments would require six to eight construction access routes,  most
through private property.  The work should be able to be per-
formed without closing any streets; traffic may be restricted to
one lane in some areas, particularly along School Street and
Spreckles Avenue.

     Gunite Cover

     The most attractive feature of the Gunite Cover Alternative
is its ability to be sprayed onto the levee, thereby reducing the
number of required easements and access routes.  This alternative
would also generate less dust than the Soil Cover Alternative be-
cause there is less earthwork involved.

     The Gunite Cover Alternative is particularly suited for
those areas along the levee where the levee encroaches on street
right-of-way, wetlands, and private property because it would be
easy to apply with a minimal increase in volume.  This alterna-
tive would require an estimated 1.0 acre for permanent and main-
tenance easements, resulting in 0.4 acres of additional wetlands
intrusion.  Several construction easements would still be re-
quired.  Maintenance of this alternative would consist of yearly
inspections and grouting of cracks resulting from foot and
bicycle traffic, differential settlement, and seismic activity.

     Soil/Gunite

     This alternative was developed in part because of the dif-
ficulties involved in implementing the Soil Cover alternative due
to limited access and permanent easements required.

     A soil cover would be placed in wetlands areas to provide
wildlife habitat and meet the community's aesthetic requirements.
Gunite would be placed where slopes are very steep and where the
cover encroaches onto roadways, such as parallel to Grand Avenue.
The two methods would be tied together in final design to prevent
loss of cover integrity at the juncture.

     Temporary easements would be required to implement this al-
ternative.  Several permanent easements would also be needed.
approximately six to eight construction access routes, mostly
through private property, would be required.  The work should be
able to be performed with minimal traffic disturbances (i.e.,
possibly closing one lane on two land streets, particularly
School Street and Spreckles Road).  This alternative would re-
quire an estimated 1.4 acres of additional wetlands intrusion.
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5. & 6.  Short-term and Long-term Effectiveness

     The No Action Alternative would not be effective in protect-
ing the public health since no remedial actions would take place.
Alternatives 2, 3, and 4 all provide a physical barrier between
the contaminant and potential receptors.  In general, the thicker
the barrier, the less likely the chance asbestos will be released
into the air.  All alternatives have equal effectiveness in the
short-term.  Factors that could affect the long-term effective-
ness and performance are 1) considerable seismic activity, 2)
high-flood waters, 3) lack of maintenance, and 4) erosion.  The
Gunite Cover would withstand these four factors the best with the
Soil/Gunite Cover next and the Soil Cover last.  However, with
proper operation/maintenance, barring natural disasters (flooding
and earthquakes), the alternatives are estimated to be almost
equally effective in controlling asbestos emissions from the ring
levee.

7.  Cost Analysis

     The No Action Alternative is estimated to be the least
costly alternative.  The Gunite Cover, Soil/Gunite Cover combina-
tion, and Soil Cover alternatives are estimated to be comparable
in cost.  Complete removal and disposal of the levee is shown,
since it is still under consideration by the PRPs.  A more
detailed breakdown and analysis of the estimated costs can be
found in Appendices D and G of the OUFS.

No Action                       $1,394,200
Soil Cover                      $2,374,700
Gunite Cover                    $2,383,900
Soil/Gunite Cover               $2,411,500
Off-site Disposal               $7,969,900

8.  Community Acceptance

     The community is not in favor of Alternatives 1, 3, and 4 as
documented in the SBAA Operable Unit Responsiveness Summary
(attached).  The community prefers Alternative #2 and they want
it implemented as soon as possible.

9.  State and Local Agency Acceptance

     There has been no state or local agency that has exhibited a
preference for the No Action Alternative.  The State of Califor-
nia Department of Health Services initially recommended a soil
cover and their position has not changed.  Other agencies have
called for implementation of an alternative that controls the
release of asbestos emissions.  Out of the four alternatives,
preference by other agencies has been for the soil cover as docu-
mented in the SBAA Operable Unit Responsiveness Survey
(attached).
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VII. Selected Remedy

     This Record of Decision addresses the asbestos contamination
present in the Alviso Ring Levee, Operable Unit of the South Bay
Asbestos Area.  EPA is undertaking an additional feasibility
study to evaluate remedial action alternatives for the entire
South Bay Asbestos Area and will complete a Record of Decision
for the remedies selected.  Prior to receiving public comment,
EPA's preferred remedial action for the Ring Levee Operable Unit
was Alternative #4, the Soil/Gunite cover.  This alternative,
however, was eliminated after concerns raised by the community
regarding public safety and aesthetic appearance of the levee,
and by USFWS regarding the gunite portion of the levee not
providing cover for the Salt March Harvest Mouse, an endangered
species living in the adjacent wetlands.  EPA has, therefore,
selected Alternative #2, the Soil Cover, as the appropriate
remedy.

     The Soil Cover consists of placing a minimum of 12 inches of
compacted soil over the levee, and then placing 6 inches of top-
soil over the compacted soil.  A three foot wide path would be
placed on top of the levee.  The side slopes of the levee would
be altered to have a 2:1 slope and then re-vegetated with native
plants.  These two measures should control erosion of the cover.
The vegetated wetland side of the levee would provide cover for
the endangered wildlife.  Strict asbestos/dust control measures
would be implemented during the entire construction operation.
Access and easements will be obtained for 6-8 construction access
routes.  Operation and maintenance activities will be required to
ensure the effectiveness of the soil cover.  These activities in-
clude site inspections and possible repairs to the cover.  Also
included as an operation and maintenance activity is a review of
the remedial action selected which, pursuant to CERCLA Section
121(c), 42 U.S.C. Section 9621(c), must be conducted every five
years when a remedial action is selected that results in any haz-
ardous material being left on site.

     The estimated cost for the Soil Cover is $1,850,400.  This
estimate is based on 7,600 cubic yards of imported fill for
reshaping the levee before constructing the soil cover to obtain
2:1 side slopes.  Yearly maintenance is estimated to be $19,000
and the five year remedial action review is estimated to be
$10,000.  Present worth cost, based on design life of 30 years
and an inflation rate of 4% and a rate of return of 4%, is es-
timated to be $2,374,700.
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VIII. Statutory Determinations

Protectiveness

     The Soil Cover would be protective of public health by
creating a barrier over the asbestos contaminated soil which will
control the release of the asbestos fibers.  Proper operation and
maintenance practices should ensure the integrity of the asbestos
fibers.

Compliance With Other Regulations

     Several ARARs define asbestos as a hazardous material.  In
addition, EPA must comply with OSHA Worker Exposure Standards
during the implementation of the remedy.  Finally, there are
site-specific ARARs which will require EPA to solicit input on
the remedial action from USFWS, to ensure that the remedial ac-
tion selected is a practicable alternative which minimizes the
impact to the wetlands, and finally to implement any mitigation
required for the loss of wetlands and endangered species habitat
for the remedial action.

     EPA has solicited the input of its in-house wetlands section
and USFWS during the development of the OUFS.  Their comments and
concerns are reflected in the OUFS Administrative Record.  EPA
will assure implementation of mitigation required by the ARARs,
whether the clean-up is performed by EPA or the PRPs.  If imple-
mented by EPA, any cost incurred will still ultimately be the
responsibility of the potentially responsible parties.  Con-
templated means of mitigating levee remedy impacts to wetlands
include acquisition of lands similar to those impacted, and im-
proving their aquatic values through restoration or enhancement
techniques.  All mitigation would be undertaken in consultation
with federal and state resource agencies.

Cost Effectiveness

     The Soil Cover is a cost-effective remedial action alterna-
tive which effectively minimizes threats to and provides adequate
protection of public health and the environment.  Although Alter-
natives 3 and 4 are equally protective, they do not satisfy the
concerns raised by the community and USFWS.

Utilization of Permanent Solutions and Alternative Treatment
Technologies or Resource Recovery Technologies to the Maximum Ex-
tent Practicable

     At this point in time, there is no known permanent alterna-
tive treatment or resource technology which would control the
release of asbestos from the soil in the Alviso Ring Levee.
Fixation, plasma fusion and verification were alternatives iden-
tified but eliminated from further consideration due to dif-
ficulties associated with implementation, uncertain long-term ef-
fectiveness and very high cost.  The selected remedy is effective

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fectiveness and very high cost.  The selected remedy is effective
at controlling the release of asbestos from the soils in the Al-
viso Ring Levee with proper long-term maintenance and is rela-
tively easy to implement at a reasonable cost.  The soil cover
once vegetated can also provide cover for the Salt Marsh Harvest
Mouse and can be constructed to blend in with the surrounding
community thereby satisfying concerns raised by U.S. Fish &
Wildlife Service and the Alviso community.

     The selected remedy will address the asbestos contamination
at the Alviso ring levee.  However, the selected remedy does not
satisfy the statutory preference for treatment as a principal
element.  At this point in time there is no proven treatment
technology which will reduce the mobility, toxicity, and volume
of asbestos.  Nonetheless, EPA considered several treatment tech-
nologies in the technology scoping and screening phase and in the
initial alternative screen stage.  However, no technology was
found which would result in a permanent and significant decrease
in the toxicity, mobility, and volume of asbestos.

IX. Future Actions

1)  Design remedial action
2)  Enter into a State Superfund Contract with the State of
    California
3)  Obtain access and easements
4)  Construct soil cover
5)  Conduct operation and maintenance activities and the five
    year remedial action review required by CERCLA Section
    121(C)> 42 U.S.C. 9621(c)

X. Schedule

     Dates for completing key milestones leading to remedial ac-
tion at the Alviso ring levee are highlighted below:

1)  Complete design by September 30, 1989,
2)  Finalize State Superfund Contract by September 30, 1989,
3)  Initiate remedial action no later than the second quarter
    fiscal year 1990.
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             RESPONSIVENESS SUMMARY


                      FOR THE


INTERIM RING LEVEE OPERABLE UNIT FEASIBILITY STUDY


     SOUTH BAY ASBESTOS AREA SUPERFUND SITE

        ALVEO DISTRICT, SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA
        United States Environmental Protection Agency
           Tons and Waste Management Division
                      Region DC
                     October 1988

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                  SOUTH BAY ASBESTOS RESPONSIVENESS SUMMARY
                                  FOR THE
              INTERIM RING LEVEE OPERABLE UNIT FEASIBILITY STUDY

                   SUMMARY OF MAJOR COMMENTS AND RESPONSES
INTRODUCTION

From April 12, 1988 through May 11, 1988,  the U.S.  Environmental Protection
Agency (EPA) held a public comment period on EPA's  draft Operable Unit
Feasibility Study (OUFS) for the ring levee at the  South Bay Asbestos
Superfund site in Alviso, California.  The Feasibility Study evaluates four
alternatives for addressing asbestos contamination in the ring levee.
Asbestos is a hazardous substance under the Comprehensive Environmental
Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA),  42 U.S.C. §9601 et.seq.
The purpose of the public comment period was to give interested parties the
opportunity to comment on the OUFS.  At the community meeting held in Alviso
on April 28, 1988, EPA announced that a fifth clean-up alternative, which came
into consideration following the release of the OUFS, also was being
considered.  To ensure that all interested parties  would have a chance to
comment on the four alternatives initially evaluated, as well as on the new
fifth alternative, the public comment period was extended for two weeks from
May 11, 1988 through May 25, 1988.

In the summer of 1987, EPA was planning to construct a permanent ring levee
cover.  EPA decided to conduct a more in-depth study on alternatives for
addressing the ring levee contamination that would take into account wetlands
preservation and cost estimates for levee access.  The OUFS is the culmination'
of these efforts.

The purpose of the OUFS is to separate and accelerate the remediation process
for the ring levee, since the levee contains asbestos and is in close
proximity to the community.  The various alternatives under consideration were
evaluated on the basis of the following criteria:  overall protection of human
health and the environment; reduction of toxicity,  mobility, and volume of
contamination; short-term and long-term effectiveness; implementability; cost;
community acceptance; State acceptance; and compliance with State and Federal
regulations.  Remedial alternatives for the entire site are examined in the
site Feasibility Study Report, which will be issued  later in 1988.

A Responsiveness Summary is required under 40 Code of Federal Regulation (CFR)
Section 300.67(e) for the purpose  of providing both  EPA and  the interested
public with a review and summary of community concerns about the site and
comments received by EPA on the OUFS.  In addition to summarizing citizen
concerns and questions, the Responsiveness Summary presents  EPA's responses  to
those concerns.

The Responsiveness Summary  for  the OUFS conducted at the  South  Bay Asbestos
site is divided  into three  sections:

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I.        Background on Community Involvement and Concerns.   This section
          provides a brief history of community interest in and concerns about
          the South Bay Asbestos site.

II.       Overview of the Ring Levee OUFS.  This section provides a brief
          history of the ring levee, summarizes the contents of the draft
          OUFS, and identifies EPA's preferred alternative.

III.      Summary of Continents Received and EPA Responses.  This section
          categorizes and summarizes written and oral comments received during
          the public comment period and provides EPA's responses to these
          comments.

Appendix A contains an index and a copy of the question and answer period
pages from the public hearing transcript and a copy of all written comments
received by EPA during the OUFS public comment period.


I.   BACKGROUND ON COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND CONCERNS

In 1983, State health officials gave the Alviso community its first
information about the asbestos contamination problem.  Although Department of
Health Services (DHS) representatives released information about the possible
health effects posed by the site, and the problem received significant media
attention, the community in Alviso did not express concern about exposure to
asbestos at that time.

In January 1984, DHS held a public meeting in Alviso about the asbestos
contamination problem.  The topics discussed were the history and current
status of the asbestos problem in Alviso, health effects of exposure to
asbestos, and future plans to investigate the contamination.  One of the
results of the meeting was the establishment of a Community Advisory Committee
comprised of concerned residents from Alviso and representatives from DHS and
the Santa Clara County Health Department.

The purpose of the Community Advisory Committee was  to provide a useful forum
to improve communication between the agencies and the community and to provide
information about precautions the community should take  to minimize exposure
to asbestos.  The group met during 1984 and 1985, when DHS was conducting
soil sampling and air monitoring throughout the area.

In the fall of 1985, community attention  on asbestos contamination peaked
again when EPA took emergency action and  paved two areas in Alviso to control
the release of asbestos.  A portion of the community expressed the concern
that EPA was acting in conjunction with San Jose city officials and
influential leaders to condemn the town and relocate residents so  that Silicon
Valley development might spread  into Alviso.

EPA community relations staff visited a broad spectrum of Alviso community
members in November and December 1985 to  explain EPA's practice of considering
a range of alternatives in response to a  release of  hazardous  substances.   EPA
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seriousness of the public health threat posed by the presence of asbestos,
and that the community would have the opportunity to be involved in the
decision about the best clean-up alternative to mitigate the asbestos problem.

Based on meetings with community leaders,  EPA held a community meeting in
December 1985 to address the residents'  concern that EPA intended to condemn
Alviso as a result of the Superfund Remedial Investigation/Feasibility Study
(RI/FS).  Following the community meeting held in December 1985, the Community
Advisory Committee expanded to include EPA and continued to meet (although
somewhat infrequently) to the present date.

Community concerns related to asbestos contamination found in Alviso are
influenced by the area's history, economic status, and social fabric.  The
major concerns of the community, as identified in the November 1986 Community
Relations Plan and at community meetings,  are as follows:

     Possible relocation of Alviso residents.  Residents are aware of the
     strategic location of Alviso in relation to Silicon Valley.  The power
     and influence of outside interests (e.g., city planners and officials,
     private developers, and real estate investors) are feared by many
     residents because they feel they will not be included in the benefits of
     high-technology development.  Some residents contend that EPA and local
     and State governments are part of a conspiracy to deflate land values or
     to condemn properties so that Alviso property can be acquired by
     development interests at low prices.

     Severity of threat actually posed bv asbestos.  Many residents in Alviso
     feel that asbestos is a widely found substance and question why Alviso
     has been "singled out" for investigation.  A widely held belief in the
     community is that Alviso is receiving attention not because of a
     potential health hazard, but because asbestos contamination can be used
     as a justification to condemn the land, relocate residents, and develop
     the area with high-technology industries.

     Dust raised bv traffic through town.   Residents are concerned about  the
     amount of dust raised by trucks, and the potential human health effects
     associated with exposure, as well as the fact that the dust might contain
     asbestos.  Others suggest that the trucks might be hauling asbestos-rock
     or other asbestos-containing material that may contribute  to the airborne
     asbestos problem.

     Length of time investigations take.  Referring to sampling activities
     performed by DHS, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, and  EPA,
     several residents criticized the government  for over-studying the problem
     and spending too much taxpayer money.

     Decrease in property values.  Many residents are concerned that property
     values have decreased due to the asbestos problem.  Others are  concerned
     about the "unsightly" appearance of the  ring levee.  If EPA seals
     asbestos on private property, residents  are  worried that  they will be
     held liable for asbestos that becomes airborne if the -seal is broken.

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Local media have presented limited coverage on asbestos contamination in the
Alviso area.  The coverage has focused primarily on two events.  The first
event occurred in 1983 when DHS initially informed the Alviso community about
the asbestos contamination problem and the possible health effects.  The
second event occurred in the fall of 1985 when EPA took emergency action and
paved two areas in Alviso -- the school yard at George Mayne School, and
Spreckles Avenue --to control asbestos dust.  The community reacted strongly
to an article in the San Jose Mercury News that suggested that area residents
might be relocated.  Media coverage has been relatively infrequent since this
event.
The following is a summary of community relations activities conducted at the
South Bay Asbestos Superfund site since 1985:
     October 1985
     November/
     December 1985
     December 1985
     December 12, 1985
     December 1985/
     January 1986
     Hay 1986
     June 12,  1986
EPA distributed a fact sheet informing the community
about EPA's Emergency Response Actions -- the paving
of George Mayne School, and Spreckles Avenue.

EPA CR representatives visited community members to
explain EPA's practice of considering a range of
alternatives in response to a release of hazardous
substances.  EPA's Emergency Response Actions also
were discussed at this time.

EPA distributed a fact sheet to explain the short-
and long-term options EPA can use at a Superfund site
for emergency or remedial response actions.  The fact
sheet also explained the Superfund process for
remedial actions.

EPA held a community meeting to explain the recent
actions taken by EPA to investigate and control
asbestos contamination in Alviso.

EPA CR representatives conducted community assessment
interviews to improve EPA's understanding of
community concerns.  These interviews provided the
basis for the South Bay Asbestos Community Relations
Plan.

EPA prepared and presented information to school
assemblies on the potential dangers associated with
using the ring levee for recreational purposes.

EPA held a community meeting to evaluate alternatives
for controlling asbestos in three areas of Alviso:
the ring levee, the truck yards, and local streets.

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     June 1986


     November 1986

     March 1987


     March 1987
     June 1987



     March 1988



     April 1988


     April 28, 1988
               EPA distributed a fact sheet providing information to
               the public on the Alviso soil sampling results.

               EPA completed the final Community Relations Plan.

               EPA distributed a fact sheet announcing the beginning
               of the Remedial Investigation at the site.

               EPA held a Community Advisory Committee Meeting (that
               included all interested community members)  to discuss
               plans for the Remedial Investigation/Feasibility
               Study.

               EPA distributed a notice announcing that the ring
               levee would be sprayed with polymer to prevent dust
               migration.

               EPA distributed letters to individual property owners
               informing them of the December 1985 soil sampling
               results.

               EPA distributed a fact sheet summarizing the draft
               Ring Levee Operable Unit Feasibility Study (OUFS).

               EPA held a community meeting to discuss the draft
               OUFS and EPA's proposed clean-up solution,  and to
               accept public comments on the selection of a remedy.
II.
OVERVIEW OF RING LEVEE OUFS
During a major flood in March 1983, the City of San Jose constructed a flood
control ring levee around most of the community of Alviso.  The levee was
built to try to divert flood waters away from Alviso.  Through soil sampling
and analysis, EPA has found that much of the ring levee is contaminated with
asbestos-containing rock and soil.

EPA is conducting a Remedial Investigation/Feasibility Study (RI/FS) to
determine the nature and extent of contamination from hazardous substances,
the extent to which contamination may pose a threat to human health and the
environment, and to determine the necessity for and the effectiveness of the
proposed remedial action.  Field investigations, performed during 1987 and
1988, will also be summarized in the upcoming RI/FS.

Preliminary data from the RI/FS, indicating that the ring levee contained
asbestos, prompted EPA to separate and accelerate the remediation process for
the levee and prepare a ring levee OUFS.

As an emergency response action, the ring levee was sprayed with a chemical
polymer to control asbestos dust in May 1986 and July 1987.   The City of San
Jose (San Jose) took over responsibility for the polymer  spraying in CERCLA
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order to provide a permanent remedy for control of asbestos dust from the
ring levee prior to completion of the larger site remediation for the South
Bay Asbestos site, EPA determined, in accordance with 40 CFR §300.68(c), that
an OUFS should be conducted to address remediation for the ring levee only.

The OUFS for the South Bay Asbestos site evaluates potential remedial action
technologies for the flood control ring levee.  Alternatives were identified
and evaluated through the series of analyses outlined in the National
Contingency Plan (NCP) (40 CFR §300, et.seq.).  Section 121 of the
Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act
(CERCLA), 42 U.S.C. §9621, requires EPA to select a remedy that is protective
of human health and the environment, that is cost-effective, that attains
Federal and state requirements, and that utilizes permanent solutions and
alternative treatment technologies or resource recovery technologies to the
maximum extent practicable.  Additionally, EPA is required to give preference
to treatment remedies that permanently and significantly reduce the mobility,
toxicity, or volume of hazardous substances as their principal element.
Finally, EPA must consider state and community acceptance, the short-term and
long-term effectiveness, and the implementability of the chosen remedy prior
to implementation.

A wide range of clean-up alternatives were initially studied to address the
asbestos contamination problem in the ring levee.  They fell into three
general categories:  no action, containment, and treatment.  The no action
alternative would result in no remedial action taking place at the site.  The
containment alternatives would use a.physical barrier to control the release
of asbestos fibers.  The treatment alternatives would involve treating the
asbestos-contaminated soil to render the asbestos either immobile or non-
hazardous .

In addition to the four alternatives discussed in the OUFS, a fifth
alternative was considered in negotiations with one of the potentially
responsible parties.  This alternative involves removing the existing levee
and possibly replacing it with a similar structure not containing asbestos.

EPA's preferred alternative was, as announced in the "proposed plan" fact
sheet released for public comment along with the OUFS on April 12, 1988,
initially a combination gunite/soil cover.  Due to community concern that  this
alternative would create aesthetic problems in Alviso and that the hard
surface could cause injury to children, in addition to the  fact that this
alternative was unpopular with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, EPA
selected the soil cover (with no gunite) as the remedy for  the ring levee.  A
footpath will be placed on top of the cover, and the soil will be vegetated
to prevent erosion.  The soil cover will satisfy State and  Federal regulatory
agencies' concern about wildlife habitat.  This alternative is expected to
control asbestos emissions from the levee, bringing about  immediate and long-
term protection to human health and the environment.  Dust  control techniques
also will be used during implementation to minimize the risks associated with
airborne asbestos.  The capital cost of the soil cover alternative is
estimated to be $1,850,400.

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III.      SUMMARY OF COMMENTS RECEIVED AND EPA RESPONSES

For purposes of simplification,  EPA has categorized the comments (and
responses to those comments)  as  follows:

          (A)  Comments made  by  the Raisch Company;
          (B)  Comments made  by  the City of San Jose;
          (C)  Comments made  by  Government Agencies;
          (D)  Comments made  by  Members of the Interested Public;  and
          (E)  Comments made  at  the April 28,  1988 public meeting.

Each of these categories is presented,  in turn, below.
     Ill(A)    COMMENTS MADE BY THE RAISCH COMPANY:
          Comment:

          1.   The Raisch Company expressed "its strong objection to the
               inadequate time allowed to prepare and submit comments on the
               OUFS."

          EPA Response:

               EPA is required by the NCP (40 CFR §300.67(d)) to provide not
               less than 21 days for public comment on the OUFS.   EPA provided
               43 days in this case.  EPA believes that its public comment
               period was adequate.
          Comment:

          2.   The Raisch Company objected to delays in notifying it of its
               PRP status.  Indicating that the site was first listed on the
               NPL in 1984, and that the City of San Jose was first notified
               in 1985, The Raisch Company questioned the reasons for delaying
               this notification until February 1988.  The Raisch Company
               further asserted that EPA violated Section 113K(2)(D) of CERCLA
               by not notifying it sooner regarding its status as a PRP.

          EPA Response:
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               EPA notified Raisch as soon as it made its determination that
               Raisch was considered a PRP.

          Comment:

          3.   The Raisch Company commented that "the failure of EPA to notify
               The Raisch Company at an earlier date has prevented  and
               prohibited the company from participating in  the extensive

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     studies, investigations, and other activities that have led to
     the issuance of the...OUFS."
EPA Response:
     See the response to comment 2.  EPA has neither prevented nor
     prohibited Raisch from participation.  EPA welcomes Raisch's
     participation.
Comment:

4,.   The Raisch Company also stated that allowing "a response period
     of less than six weeks is not only inadequate, but it appears
     as an attempt by the Environmental Protection Agency to
     prohibit The Raisch Company from creating an adequate
     administrative record to defend against future EPA actions
     regarding the site."  Moreover, The Raisch Company stated that,
     "the inadequate time allowed to respond to the OUFS...con-
     stitutes a violation of Section 113K(2)(B)(ii)" of CERCLA.

EPA Response:

     See responses to comments 1 and 2.  EPA has considered
     Raisch's comments.  EPA has gone beyond the requirements of
     CERCLA §113K(2)(B)(ii).
Comment:

5.   Citing EPA's reliance on technical data in the OUFS, The Raisch
     Company requested "adequate time to retain their own technical
     experts to review and comment on the studies relied on by the
     authors of the OUFS."  Moreover, The Raisch Company stated that
     the time allowed for comment, combined with "EPA's delay" in
     including The Raisch Company as a PRP, "practically prohibits"
     the use of outside consultants and technical experts in the
     review process.

EPA Response:

     See the response to comment 3.


Comment:

6.   Asserting that EPA failed to allow adequate time to create an
     administrative record and submit appropriate comments, The
     Raisch Company stated that the ongoing RI/FS for the entire
     Alviso South Bay Asbestos site will be "prejudged by the
     remedial action selected in the OUFS process."

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EPA Response:
     The intent of the Operable Unit is to control the release of
     asbestos fibers from the ring levee.   The RI/FS is intended to
     evaluate the entire site and will, of course, take into account
     the Operable Unit.  However, the RI/FS will not be "prejudiced"
     by the Operable Unit.   Raisch will be able to comment on the
     RI/FS during the RI/FS comment period.
Comment:

7.   Pertaining to asbestos health risks, The Raisch Company
     indicated that the OUFS makes no mention of the different types
     of asbestos existing in the environment nor does it mention the
     different health risks associated with the different asbestos
     types (serpentine and amphibole).   Moreover, Raisch stated that
     "there is uncontrovertible evidence that the serpentine group
     (chrysotile) is far less hazardous than the amphiboles and that
     its production and use can and is being successfully
     regulated."  Stating that serpentine formations are widespread
     throughout California, Raisch incorporated by reference the
     following five exhibits as evidence of the different health
     risks associated with the two asbestos groups:

     o    Article from California Mining dated September 1986;

     o    "Geological Occurrences and Health Hazards of Amphibole
          and Serpentine Asbestos," by Malcolm Ross gf the U.S.
          Geological Survey;

     o    Article from the British Journal of Industrial Medicine
          dated 1980, entitled "Dust Exposure and Mortality in
          Chrysotile Mining, 1910-75;"

     o    Letter from Robert G. Coleman, Ph.D., of Stanford
          University dated March 25, 1986, addressed to Board
          Secretary, California Air Resources Board; and

     o    Letter from Malcolm Ross of the U.S. Department of
          Interior dated February 28, 1985, addressed to Dr. Bernard
          D. Goldstein of EPA.
     The Raisch Company further stated that "the conclusion can be
     drawn from the attached reports that the concentrations of
     chrysotile asbestos found in the air in Alviso does not
     constitute a significant health risk."

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EPA Response:
     EPA's position is that all types of asbestos are potentially
     carcinogenic to humans.  EPA has determined that asbestos is a
     hazardous substance for the purpose of CERCL&.  See 40 CFR
     §302.4.  High rates of lung cancer in asbestos workers have
     been related to all types of asbestos, including chrysotile.
     This position is supported by many asbestos research
     publications, including "Airborne Asbestos Health Assessment
     Update" (USEPA, 1986, publication 600/8-84-0031),  prepared by
     Dr. William Nicholson of Mt. Sinai Hospital.  Current Federal
     regulations regarding asbestos in schools (Asbestos Hazard
     Emergency Response Act, under Title II of the Toxic Substances
     Control Act) also concludes that all asbestos types are
     hazardous (Federal Register, Vol. 51, No. 19, Jan 29, 1986,
     Supplementary Information).  The National Research Council
     ("Non Occupational Health Risks of Asbestiform Fibers,"
     National Academy Press, 1984) reports the following:

     "Results of studies of various groups of workers indicate that
     it is extremely difficult to assess the role of fiber type
     (i.e., chrysotile or [amphibole]) in determining the risk for
     developing either lung cancer or mesothelioma...  Some
     scientists have interpreted the available epidemiological data
     to indicate that chrysotile asbestos, the asbestos type most
     commonly used in the U.S., is less hazardous than the other
     types of asbestos, especially crocidolite...  However, in view
     of the laboratory evidence and great uncertainty about the
     nature of the fibers of asbestos to be found in nonoccupational
     exposure situations, the committee decided not to differentiate
     among them in the quantitative risk assessment.   Furthermore,
     some of the apparent discrepancies [in cancer potency] may be
     explained by differences in physical properties of the fibers,
     fiber concentration, and their characteristics."

     Thus, EPA does not agree with Raisch's assertion that
     chrysotile is less hazardous than other types of asbestos.  EPA
     has studied the five exhibits entered into  the record by the
     Raisch Company but believes that sufficient data exists to  show
     that chrysotile is harmful.
Comment:
     Under a heading entitled "Air Monitoring," The Raisch Company
     stated that the air monitoring done to date  is "inadequate to
     support any remedial action for the ring levee."  Raisch
     further stated that "the sampling did not take into  account
     what type of asbestos fibers were found in the air."  Citing
     the Woodward-Clyde report, Raisch stated that "the testing they
     undertook failed to distinguish and/or isolate asbestos
     originating from other activities in Alviso  from naturally
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     occurring asbestos in the ring levee."  Furthermore,  stating
     that serpentine rock is California's most prevalent rock,
     Raisch argued that "it is very likely that had the same tests
     conducted by DHS been conducted on any exposed serpentine  rock
     anywhere in California that similar results would have been
     obtained."  In summary, The Raisch Company stated that "the
     ambient air testing done to date in Alviso has failed to
     isolate the ring level [sic]  as the source of asbestos in  the
     air in Alviso and has failed to demonstrate that the  ambient
     air concentrations of asbestos in the Alviso area are
     significantly different than in the surrounding San Jose
     area."
EPA Response:
     EPA acknowledges that,  based on existing data, the ambient air
     in Alviso may not be significantly different than air in San
     Jose.  The results of the overall RI/FS investigation, which
     will be presented later this year, appear to indicate that wind
     erosion and suspension of asbestos particles by wind may not be
     the primary mechanism for transporting asbestos from the ground
     into the air.  This is supported by the Woodward-Clyde report
     that shows that even with samplers directly upwind and downwind
     of the levee, asbestos results varied, sometimes showing higher
     fiber counts upwind.  EPA believes that mechanical activity,
     such as driving, bicycling, or digging, may be primarily
     responsible for disturbing the soil and releasing fibers which
     can be inhaled.  Thus,  the rationale for acting to remediate
     the levee is concern over the potential exposure to individuals
     who might inhale asbestos fibers released from the levee during
     soil disturbance.  Similar asbestos conditions elsewhere in the
     State do not preclude EPA from taking action in Alviso, where
     the potential for exposure is high, due to the proximity of the
     town and the condition of the levee.  The site data collected
     by EPA show that the asbestos fibers found in the soil are
     chrysotile and are the same as the fibers found in the air.
     Thus, Raisch's comment about the Woodward-Clyde report is
     incorrect.
Comment:
     The Raisch Company stated that the OUFS "failed to discuss
     several practical, feasible, and cost-effective remedial action
     alternatives ..."  Furthermore, Raisch stated that, in some
     cases, the OUFS "does not adequately address the remedial
     action alternatives identified."
EPA Response:
     The OUFS was prepared following the guidelines outlined  in  the
     NCP (40 CFR Section 300.68), guidance documents  issued by EPA's
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     Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response (OSWER Directives
     9355.0-19 and 9355.0-21), and EPA's guidance on Feasibility
     Studies issued in March 1988.  These documents dictate the
     procedures that must be followed to identify a range of
     remedial action alternatives.  Page 2-23 of the OUFS defines
     the remedial action technologies that were selected for
     screening.  Under the regulations and guidance documents, these
     technologies must range from No Action to innovative treatment
     options.  Several practical, feasible, and cost-effective
     options were included and discussed in the OUFS.  Each
     alternative was adequately addressed as mandated in the
     guidance quoted above.  In addition, Raisch did not identify
     any other specific "alternatives" that it wanted EPA to
     consider.
Comment:

10.  In reference to the No Action Alternative (Alternative 1), The
     Raisch Company stated that "no demonstration has been made that
     there are adverse health effects from chrysotile asbestos in
     the concentrations found in the ambient air at the Alviso
     site."  Raisch further stated that "the ambient air testing has
     failed to isolate the ring levee as the source or a source of
     asbestos in the ambient air at Alviso..."  Furthermore, Raisch
     stated that "evidence is not presented to indicate that the
     concentrations of asbestos in the air in Alviso are
     significantly different than concentrations in the Greater San
     Jose area."  For these reasons, The Raisch Company asserted
     that the selected alternative should instead be No Action.

EPA Response:

     As stated in previous responses, EPA does not regulate specific
     asbestos types differently, and is officially committed to
     considering all asbestos types hazardous substances.  It  is
     true that the OUFS did not isolate the ring levee as the  source
     of asbestos in Alviso's ambient air.  However, EPA is concerned
     that direct disturbance of levee soils which have
     demonstratively high (up to 40% by area) asbestos levels, and
     inhalation of asbestos from the resulting dust, are potential
     health risks requiring remedial action.
Comment:

11.  Under the heading  "Chemical Soil Suppressant," The Raisch
     Company stated  that the use of chemical soil  suppressants  is
     discussed in  the OUFS only in terms of "its potential permanent
     application"  and that its use to date has been "markedly
     successful."  Raisch therefore asserted that  its  continued
     application "would be the most logical and rational  approach  to
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     the ring levee" until the conclusion of the RI/FS and selection
     of a permanent solution for the entire site.   Raisch stated
     that "such an approach is the only alternative that has no
     potential of being in direct conflict with an ultimate solution
     for the ring levee,  whatever that may be."  Raisch asserted
     that continued application of soil suppressant "is also
     consistent with a City of San Jose and Army Corps of
     Engineers' plan for flood control improvements to the Coyote
     and Guadalupe Rivers in the Alviso area,"   because "it is
     believed that once these flood control measures have been
     implemented...the need for the levee would no longer exist and
     it could then be removed..."
EPA Response:

     EPA has used the soil suppressant as a temporary control
     measure until a permanent,  cost-effective remedy is selected.
     In order to select a permanent remedy, EPA conducted an OUFS
     which identified several permanent alternatives.  Each
     alternative was evaluated by several criteria as mandated by
     CERCLA.  The objective of the remedy selected will be to
     control the release of asbestos fibers from the levee soils.
     Such a remedy is consistent with the possible remedial
     alternatives being identified for the rest of the South Bay
     Asbestos Area.

     EPA understands that the City considers the ring levee a
     necessary flood control measure, because neither the City nor
     the Army Corps of Engineers has expressed contrary views.   EPA
     will not implement the removal and replacement of the ring
     levee, because equally effective alternatives exist which are
     more cost-effective.  EPA would consider the removal of the
     ring levee if the PRPs were committed to completing the tasks
     at their own expense and under EPA supervision.

Comment:

12.  The Raisch Company, citing discussions between the City of San
     Jose and the Army Corps of Engineers regarding the possible
     incorporation of the existing levee "into a larger and more
     permanent levee structure," stated that if this project
     proceeds, "the existing levee would be an ideal base for a new
     levee."  The Raisch Company asserted that, in this case, "the
     ring levee would be covered with more than ample material to
     prevent the escape of any asbestos containing materials into
     the air."  Raisch further asserted that incorporating the
     existing levee into a permanent levee "would be far and away
     the most cost efficient and practical method of construction of
     a new permanent levee," and that the OUFS should have
     considered this alternative.
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EPA Response:
     EPA did not address the "ultimate levee" or large-scale
     permanent levee as an alternative for the following reasons:
     First, EPA's responsibility at the site is to address the
     problems of asbestos contamination,  not flood control.   Second,
     the possibility that the "ultimate levee" would be built
     appears highly uncertain;  no source of funding for
     construction has been identified, the City of San Jose is
     unable to commit to a date of construction, and the Army Corps
     of Engineers would have to approve the project, given its
     location in wetlands.  For these reasons, the "ultimate levee"
     was not considered as an alternative.
Comment:

13.  The Raisch Company asserted that "a practical, permanent and
     cost effective solution to any risk created by the ring levee
     would be to remove the material comprising the ring levee to a
     nearby highway construction project where the material would be
     utilized as a base fill and covered with sufficient non-
     asbestos containing material and/or sealed with asphalt in
     conjunction with such a project to prevent the future escape of
     any material into the atmosphere."  In support of this
     assertion, Raisch stated that the material is "not inherently
     hazardous but can become hazardous if released to the
     atmosphere and inhaled in high concentrations over long
     periods of time," and that "if the asbestos containing rock has
     no potential for release to the atmosphere, it becomes non-
     hazardous."  The Raisch Company further stated that relocating
     the levee material to a highway construction project
     "permanently removes the material from the Alviso area and
     disposes of it in a manner where the material is rendered non-
     hazardous."  Finally, Raisch stated that such a process is also
     "the most cost effective alternative and minimizes any
     transportation problems related to any other removal
     alternative (i.e., to a permitted facility)."

EPA Response:

     Although EPA has determined that placement of the levee in a
     RCRA-approved landfill, if off-site disposal were chosen, is
     not necessary, a California certified Class II landfill would
     be required as a disposal site, since asbestos is classified as
     a toxic contaminant by the State of California.  The
     requirements of Class II disposal, as promulgated under
     California law, would apply to the levee.  Any disposal site
     other than a Class II landfill such as a construction site,
     would not be feasible under the law, absent a waiver by the
     State.  Thus, the option of removing the contaminated fill to  a
     highway project could not be considered.
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Comment:

14.  Alternatively,  The Raisch Company asserted that the material
     could be "returned to its 'quarries of origin1  for future use
     as fill material under circumstances protecting escape of
     asbestos into the air."  Raisch stated that "the ability to
     work with asbestos containing serpentine in a safe manner is
     clearly demonstrated in the Summary Report, entitled
     'Serpentine/Asbestos Public Health Analysis.'"   The Raisch
     Company attached this report to their comments  for the record.
     Furthermore, Raisch cited the following provision in Section
     122(b)(l) of CERCLA:

          "Remedial actions in which treatment which permanently and
          significantly reduces the volume, toxicity, or mobility of
          hazardous substances, pollutants and contaminants is a
          principle element and are preferred over remedial actions
          not involving such treatment."

     Following this citation, The Raisch Company included the
     following incomplete sentence:

          "These latter two alternatives, i.e., removal to a nearby
          project site and/or removal to the quarries of origin"

     Presumably, Raisch intended to state that these latter two
     alternatives are more consistent with the cited provision of
     CERCLA than is the preferred alternative.  The Raisch Company
     stated that removing the material to a suitable construction
     site or to the quarries of origin "are consistent with other
     Federal laws and regulations and remove all problems associated
     with leaving the levee in place."  Finally, citing that "no Bay
     Conservation and Development Commission permit was obtained,
     no Environmental Impact Report was done prior to construction
     of the levee, no 404 Clean Water Act permits were obtained and
     no wetland mitigation provided,"  Raisch stated that "removal
     of the levee resolves all of these problems."

EPA Response:

     Removal of the levee to the quarry of origin would not be
     consistent with State law, absent a waiver, as stated in the
     previous response.  Removal and off-site disposal in a quarry
     does not constitute treatment.  Treatment options discussed in
     the OUFS include in-situ vitrification, fixation, and plasma
     fusion.  EPA feels  that removal of the levee to an appropriate
     facility involves more cost and implementation risks  (during
     excavation and transportation) than would a soil cover that
     reduces and controls asbestos exposure.
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III(B)    COMMENTS MADE BY THE CITY OF SAN JOSE:
     Comment:

     15.  The City of San Jose asserted that the OUFS is "substantially
          deficient," and that it cannot, therefore, "serve as a basis
          for decision."  The City further stated that "more work will be
          required before the OUFS can be said to be adequate to the task
          of analyzing the risks and providing an adequate evaluation of
          the appropriate remedial actions."

     EPA Response:

          The OUFS report was prepared following all requirements of
          CERCLA as amended by SARA and the National Contingency Plan (40
          CFR §300.68).  Page 2-1 of the OUFS cites the guidance
          documents on which the OUFS is based.  All requirements
          governing an OUFS have been met.  The ring levee was separated
          from the rest of the site as an operable unit because EPA
          believes that the levee poses a significant potential risk from
          asbestos exposure.  The OUFS report provides sufficient
          information to make decisions regarding risk from asbestos.

     Comment:

     16.  Specifically, the City of San Jose stated that "the OUFS does
          not properly address the question of causation, i.e., whether
          whatever asbestos that is present in various other parts of
          Alviso (including the atmosphere) came from naturally occurring
          chrysotile asbestos contained in the serpentine rocks and soil
          in the levee."  The City submitted that "there is considerable
          evidence that much, if not all, asbestos which may be found in
          Alviso came from sources other than the levee."

     EPA Response:

          EPA's studies at the site have shown that samples from
          different sources or locations have the same  type of chrysotile
          asbestos fibers, that is, the source of asbestos at the site
          either naturally-occurring or processed, cannot be
          distinguished by fiber size, morphology, or mineral type.
          Thus, EPA has seen no evidence that "most if  not all" asbestos
          came from non-ring levee sources.  The OUFS report  focuses on
          the ring leve.e specifically, because of the significant
          potential for asbestos exposure due to disturbance  of and/or
          inhalation of levee soils containing asbestos.
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Comment:

17.  The City of San Jose stated that the chrysotile asbestos in the
     levee poses no different health hazard,  nor should be treated
     differently, than if the levee were a natural formation.  The
     City further asserted that "EPA has inadequate information to
     conclude that a health risk may exist in Alviso as a result of
     the serpentine rocks and soil in the levee."

EPA Response:

     The ring levee is distinguished by EPA from a natural
     formation, because it has been physically altered, removed from
     its original location, and transported to the site.   Thus,  EPA
     justifiably considers it to be different than a natural
     formation.  See CERCLA §§104 and 121, 42 U.S.C. §§9604 and
     9621.  Furthermore,  the proximity of the levee to the site
     residents and the potential exposure to  asbestos from the levee
     is of concern.  The  information in the OUFS demonstrates that a
     potential health risk from the levee exists.
Comment:

18.  The City of San Jose asserted that "critical engineering
     questions have not been adequately examined."

EPA Response:

     The purpose of the OUFS is to present information regarding the
     feasibility of various remedial options.   The actual design of
     the remediation, including engineering specifications, will be
     presented in the Remedial Design Report,  which follows the
     Record of Decision (ROD).   With the exception of the issues
     addressed below, the "critical engineering questions" mentioned
     in the comment have not been specified, so that specific
     responses are not possible.
Comment:

19.  The City of San Jose stated that "the OUFS fails to examine the
     flood control ramifications of the proposed remedial
     alternatives."  The City asserted that the OUFS must include,
     for each alternative, engineering analysis pertaining to the
     associated risks of flood damage.

EPA Response:

     EPA's role, under the Superfund program, is to remediate the
     potential risks to human health, welfare, and the environment
     caused by hazardous substances, pollutants, or contaminants.
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     See CERCLA §§104 and 121, 42 U.S.C.  §§9604 and 9621.  Although
     flooding at the site is a potential hazard, EPA's
     responsibilities under CERCLA extend only to the risks from
     hazardous substances, pollutants,  or contaminants, not from
     flooding.  In any event, each alternative examined in the OUFS
     would only improve the levee in terms of stability and
     resistance to flood erosion.  It is important to note that
     since the levee is not continuous around the town (Los Esteros
     Road, Grand Boulevard, and Taylor Road pass through the levee
     at an elevation lower than the levee),  its flood function may
     be incomplete.  Any damage to the remediated levee due to
     floods would be repaired as part of long-term operations and
     maintenance.
Comment:

20.  The City of San Jose further stated that "compaction tests
     should be conducted prior to any decision to add cover to the
     levee."

EPA Response:

     Compaction tests would be performed as part of the remedial
     design and actual construction phases of the project.
Comment:

21.  The City of San Jose asserted that EPA "commits a fundamental
     error" in considering the ring levee to be a hazardous waste
     site.  The City contends that the site should be considered a
     "community structure," as defined in 42 U.S.C. §9604(a)(3)(B).
     The City stated that "its character as a waste is
     questionable:  It is soil and dirt, containing naturally
     occurring, unprocessed, unmanufactured serpentine material,
     which contains chrysotile asbestos."

EPA Response:

     The ring levee falls within the definition of "facility" under
     CERCLA §101(a), 42 U.S.C. §9601(a).  A facility includes, "any
     site or area where a hazardous substance has been deposited...
     or otherwise came to be located..."  Asbestos, whether
     processed or unprocessed, is a hazardous substance, pursuant to
     40 CFR §302.4 and CERCLA §101(14), 42 U.S.C. §9601(14).  Both
     processed and unprocessed asbestos can pose a health hazard.
     Since the asbestos here was deposited on the ground from the
     ring levee, the levee is unquestionably a "facility."  Thus,
     the city's assertion that the ring levee is not a hazardous
     site is incorrect.
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     The City's second comment,  that the levee should be considered
     a community structure is also incorrect.   CERCLA §104(a)(3)(B),
     42 U.S.C. §6604(a)(3)(B),  limits response actions for "products
     which are part of the structure, and result in exposure within
     residential buildings,  business, or community structures..."
     The term community structures refers to a non-residential or
     business building, such as  a school or city hall.  The levee is
     not such a structure.  In addition, even if the levee were
     considered to be a community structure, CERCLA §104(a)(3)(B)
     limits responses "from products which are part of the
     structure, and result in exposure within..." the structure.
     Here, EPA is not concerned with any release of asbestos
     "within" the structure, but rather "from" the structure.   Thus,
     the response limit would not applyv
Comment:

22.  The City of San Jose stated that,  "if the EPA were to select a
     remedy other than removal,  and health and flood/engineering
     issues were equal, then the most desirable remedy is the one
     which would provide for an acceptable appearance of the levee,
     one which meets the aesthetic needs of the Alviso community."
     In such a case, the City of San Jose stated that "a soil cover,
     with low maintenance native plants and gunite only where it is
     necessary, would be preferable, certainly to the plain gunite
     cover."

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates the City's suggestion of the soil cover, with
     native plants being preferable to the gunite cover as an
     alternative.
Comment:

23.  The City of San Jose strongly urged that "the views of the
     Alviso community be taken into account on matters such as
     desirability of a walking-jogging path, benches, and other
     amenities, if the safety of the community is assured."

EPA Response:

    •EPA has taken the views of the community into account, through
     a series of public meetings, meetings with the Community
     Advisory Committee, and requests for input in fact sheets,
     flyers, and public notices.  The OUFS did not describe the
     finished levee cover in detail concerning paths, benches and
     other amenities.  These are details of final design which will
     be presented at a later date, provided that liability of the
     levee landowners is not a problem.  EPA is aware that the
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     residents would prefer a usable public space if the levee is to
     remain, and EPA plans to satisfy this concern to the extent
     possible under the law.                            !
Comment:

24.  The City of San Jose stated that a recent file search "revealed
     the possibility that it may be appropriate to designate
     additional potentially responsible parties (PRPs).   These
     include the U.S. Department of the Interior, Piazza
     Construction, Hillsdale Quarry, and W. H. Ebert Construction."
     Moreover, the City stated that "EPA should investigate more
     thoroughly the sources of the material that the levee was
     constructed from and whether those sources contained asbestos
     in order to accurately identify all Potential Responsible
     Parties, as required by 42 U.S.C. §9613(k)(2)(D)."   Finally,
     citing Page 1-6, lines 18-19 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that EPA should identify the additional source for the
     fill, if this is someone other than Raisch.  The City further
     stated that this source should be investigated to ascertain
     whether it contains asbestos, and that the source should be
     identified as a PRP, as required by 42 U.S.C. §9613(k)(2)(D).

EPA Response:

     Pursuant to CERCLA §113(k)(2)(D), 42 U.S.C. §9613(k)(2)(D), EPA
     has conducted a diligent search for PRPs and has identified San
     Jose and Raisch as PRPs for the Alviso Ring Levee.   The City
     suggests, however, that other entities may also be PRPs.  EPA
     has evaluated the City's suggestion and has determined that
     none of these parties will be considered Alviso Ring Levee PRPs
     at this time.
Comment:

25.  The City of San Jose stated that "any remedial orders should
     consider both long and short term solutions, and should provide
     for subsequent alterations, for example to permit work to be
     undertaken on the ultimate levee."

EPA Response:

     CERCLA §121, 42 U.S.C. §9621, requires EPA to evaluate the long
     term effectiveness of a range of alternatives.  EPA has made
     the required analysis in the OUFS.  EPA's remedy will not
     preclude further action by the City at the levee, provided
     public health and environmental concerns are met.
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Comment:

26.  The City of San Jose stated that "any removal and rebuilding
     which might be permitted should be accomplished between April
     15th and October 15th,  in view of weather considerations."

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates this comment regarding the best construction
     season.  These considerations will be part of the Remedial
     Design document.
Comment:

27.  The City of San Jose stated that removal of any or all of the
     levee should not be conducted until "flooding/engineering
     studies have been conducted,  and adequate flood control
     measures, if required, are taken."  The City further stated
     that "the effects of transportation and disposal should be
     carefully considered, before  any removal is ordered."

EPA Response:

     If removal were to be carried out, as described in Section
     3.3.3 of the OUFS, removal would be staged so that outgoing
     loads of contaminated soil would be replaced with incoming fill
     by the same trucks, if possible.  In that scenario, therefore,
     levee replacement would proceed concurrently with removal, so
     that flood protection would not be compromised.  EPA has
     considered the effects and the cost of transportation and
     disposal of the levee, and has screened out off-site disposal
     as an option unless the PRPs  would conduct the removal,
     disposal, and replacement of the ring levee, as described in
     the report.
Comment:

28.  The City of San Jose stated that the matter of asbestos is
     complex, and that "data as to asbestos health risks is
     incomplete, especially as to chrysotile asbestos."

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges that the matter of asbestos is complex, and
     for that reason accepts that all forms of asbestos are
     potentially hazardous, including chrysotile.  EPA is taking a
     conservative approach in their concern for potential, as well
     as for existing, health risks.  Please refer to the response to
     comment 7.
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Comment:

29.  The City of San Jose contended that "the comment period
     allotted to the City, thirty days, plus a two-week extension,
     was simply too brief to permit the City to fully address
     matters of the complexity involved in the OUFS.   EPA's denial
     of the City's request for a sixty day extension hindered the
     City in conducting its review of the OUFS, prevented a study
     of other alternatives and combinations of alternatives,  and in
     preparing full comments on the OUFS.  As a consequence,  the
     City asserts that it has been denied due process of Law."

EPA Response:

     EPA has complied with all of the requirements of CERCLA
     Section 113(k)(2)(B) -- "Administrative Record and
     Participation Procedures" for remedial actions.   In addition,
     EPA has met with and briefed the City of San Jose as often as
     requested over the past three years.  See the response to
     comment 1.

Comment:

30.  The City of San Jose expressed its regret that time limitations
     constrained their efforts to provide full comments, and stated
     that the City "would welcome an opportunity to submit further
     comments."

EPA Response:

     The original comment period opened on April 12,  1988, and
     allowed for a four week public comment period.  The final close
     of the comment period was on May 25, 1988, which provided a
     total of six weeks for public review and comment.  The comment
     period was twice as long as required by law and afforded all
     parties adequate review time.
Comment:

31.  Citing Page ES-1, lines 3-4 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     indicated that the referenced height of the levee conflicts
     with other sections of the report.  The City indicated that
     this conflicts with Page 1-12, Section 1.3.2, lines 28-30; and
     Page 1-6, lines 17-20 of the OUFS.

EPA Response:

     Different values for the height of the levee have been
     inconsistently reported, because  the height of  the  levee  is
     variable depending on location.   The reference  to levee height
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     should read, "The levee is an average of 6 feet in height,  and
     ranges from 5 to 12 feet in height depending on location."


Comment:

32.  Also citing Page ES-1,  lines 3-4 of the OUFS,  the City of San
     Jose indicated that the statement that the levee "surrounds
     most of the community of Alviso..." is inaccurate.   Referencing
     Page 1-12, lines 28-30 of the OUFS, the City stated that
     "surrounding the town on the east,  north,  and northwest...does
     not reasonably imply that 'most of the community1 is
     surrounded."

EPA Response:

     Referencing Figure 1-2 of the OUFS, it is  apparent that the
     ring levee is a significant linear feature,  approximately 2
     miles in length, that is present to the east,  north, and
     northwest borders of Alviso.  The statement that the levee
     "surrounds most of the community" is not misleading when the
     figures that accompany the text are examined.
Comment:

33.  Citing Page ES-1, lines 6-8 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "portions of the levee were constructed during the
     flood, not after," and that "accurate placement of the
     emergency levee, in terms of conforming to existing property
     lines, was hampered by the flood conditions (parts of the area
     were under water)."

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges the City's comment about the timing of levee
     construction and flood conditions during construction.  This
     information was not available during preparation of the report.
Comment:

34.  Also citing Page ES-1, lines 6-8 of the OUFS, the City of San
     Jose stated that the City "did not then and does not now have
     primary jurisdiction or responsibility for providing flood
     protection.  Prior to the emergency action, no plans were being
     developed by the City to construct a levee.  The statement that
     the City and the County were jointly planning to provide flood
     protection is incorrect.  The Santa Clara Valley Water District
     is the public agency charged with flood control
     responsibility."
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EPA Response:
     The OUFS made the statement that the ring levee was constructed
     "as part of the City's and County's plans to provide improved
     flood protection based on the Draft Environmental Impact Report
     of the Alviso Ring Levee prepared by Ruth and Going, November
     1983 and October 1984, for the City of San Jose.  In the two
     versions of that document, the statement is made (Page 1,
     Summary of Impacts) that "The proposed project, the Alviso Ring
     Levee, would be an earthen dike intended to provide flood
     protection for the community of Alviso from fresh water and
     tidal flooding."  Also, on Page IV-1 (Project Relationship to
     Existing Plans and Policies), it is stated that "the proposed
     Ring Levee would be consistent with the policies of the San
     Jose General Plan.  These references were used to support the
     general introductory statements on the background of the
     construction of the existing ring levee.
Comment:

35.  Citing Page ES-1, lines 8-10, and Page 1-6, lines 16-19 of the
     OUFS, the City of San Jose stated that its research indicated
     that the sources of material used during construction of the
     levee includes two quarries:  the Raisch Quarry and the
     Hillsdale Quarry.  The City stated that "it is not known at
     this time whether the Hillsdale Quarry materials contained
     asbestos."

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates the comments regarding the sources of the levee
     material.  This information will be considered by EPA in their
     research and negotiations with potentially responsible parties.
Comment:

36.  Also citing Page ES-1, lines 8-10, and Page 1-6, lines 16-19 of
     the OUFS, the City of San Jose questioned which quarry is
     referenced as being  in Cupertino.

EPA Response:

     The material was provided from an excavation on Homestead Road
     in Cupertino.
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Comment:

37.  Citing Page ES-2,  lines 6-8 of the OUFS,  the City of San Jose
     questioned "whether the implied elimination of the removal
     option due to 'high costs'  is  valid."

EPA Response:

     EPA has determined, since the  OUFS was finalized,  that RCRA
     regulations do not apply to the South  Bay Asbestos site,  since
     asbestos is not a RCRA-defined hazardous  waste.   Therefore,
     wastes would not have to be disposed of at a RCRA Subtitle C
     facility.  However, since asbestos is  classified as a toxic
     contaminant by the State of California, disposal would be
     required at a State approved Class II  landfill.   This would
     decrease disposal costs, but hauling fees would remain high, as
     well as the costs for replacement of the  levee.   Since an
     equally effective remedy can be implemented at lower cost, the
     removal option was screened out.

Comment:

38.  Again citing Page ES-2, lines  6-8 of the  OUFS, the City of San
     Jose asserted that locations other than RCRA-approved landfills
     should be considered for disposal of the  material.
     Specifically, the City stated  that "existing EPA policy
     requiring that naturally occurring asbestos material in soil
     and rocks be disposed of only  in RCRA-approved facilities  (when
     asbestos can be safely disposed of by  burial which does not
     pose any long term threat by migration),  should be examined
     prior to dismissal of the removal option as too costly."  The
     City further stated that "the  history  of EPA's actions for
     asbestos abatement includes instances  where asbestos material,
     once safely buried, was excavated and  reburied at high cost
     with no additional increased protection,  is often cited as an
     extreme example of bureaucratic mismanagement."

EPA Response:

     As stated in the previous response, a RCRA-approved landfill
     would not be required for disposal.  This will make the
     disposal option less costly.  However, since equally effective
     remedies are available at lower cost,  the disposal option was
     screened out.

Comment:

39.  Citing  Page ES-2,  lines 15-17  of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated  that "it is not clear what the  term  'easements' means
     here.   If it applies to easements needed to apply  the gunite
     versus  the soil.cap, then the statement may be true.  If
     easements for the  placement of  the levee are  in question,  it  is
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     not clear why the gunite option would eliminate any required
     easement."
EPA Response:
     The OUFS, on page ES-2, is referring to the permanent easements
     required for the cover, that is, the cover (whether soil or
     gunite) that will extend laterally beyond the base of the
     existing levee.  Since the gunite is several inches thick, as
     opposed to the soil cover which is 18 inches thick, a smaller
     permanent easement is required with the gunite cover design.
     Refer to Figures 4-1 and 4-2 of the OUFS for a graphic
     representation of the difference in easement requirements.
Comment:

40.  Citing Page ES-2, lines 15-17 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "speculating as to what will be acceptable to the
     public is not appropriate.  They should be consulted and
     heeded."

EPA Response:

     The public has been consulted and heeded throughout the RI/FS
     process.  Several public meetings have been held at which times
     comments were received from residents.  EPA has been in contact
     throughout the process with the Community Advisory Committee
     and spokesmen for the community.  Furthermore, the OUFS was
     based on the previous OUFS report prepared by Canonie Engineers
     for the State, which also underwent a period of review and
     comment.  In addition, the public will have further input
     during the design phase of the project.  For a complete list of
     the community relations activities conducted by EPA at this
     site, see Section I of this Responsiveness Summary entitled
     "Background on Community Involvement and Concerns."

Comment:

41.  Citing Page 1-1, lines 15-19 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that, although the language seems to indicate that
     asbestos found elsewhere came from the levee, and acknowledged
     that chrysotile asbestos may be present in the rocks and soil
     in the levee, the OUFS "does not establish that there has been
     any 'significant1 migration of that form of asbestos from the
     levee."
EPA Response:

    The purpose of the OUFS was to examine various remedial  options
     for the levee itself, based on the potential risks  to persons
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     in the area of the levee,  rather than to establish that
     migration of asbestos has  taken place from the levee.
Comment:

42.  The City of San Jose asserted that "the [DHS]  tests which may
     indicate the possibility of migration have not been shown to
     have been conducted in a matter accepted as scientifically
     valid."

EPA Response:

     The DHS exposure experiments were intended as screening tests
     to indicate the potential for asbestos exposure.  EPA believes
     that the DHS tests yielded significantly valid results for
     purposes of screening evaluation.  The tests clearly
     demonstrated that certain common activities could release
     asbestos fibers to the air.  This is stated in the OUFS on Page
     4-10.
Comment:

43.  In reference to Page 1-1, lines 15-19 of the OUFS, the City of
     San Jose suggested that the sentence be reworded to state
     (...appears to be a discrete area where naturally occurring
     chrysotile asbestos is found in rocks and soil,...), instead of('
     (...appears to be a significant source of asbestos....).

EPA Response:

     Thank you for your suggestion for rewording the sentence.
     However, EPA believes this sentence is most accurate as
     written, and, therefore, it will not be modified.
Comment:

44.  In reference to Page 1-1, lines 15-19 of the OUFS, the City of
     San Jose also asserted that the "naturally occurring chrysotile
     asbestos found in the rocks and soil in the levee is no
     different than the naturally occurring chrysotile asbestos
     found in rocks and soil in a variety of other locations,
     including their original (natural) locations."  The City
     further asserted that "if the levee were a fortuitously
     located geologic formation deposited in its present location by
     the forces of nature, it would not have been included in the
     South Bay Asbestos Area.  That the levee came into being as a
     flood control measure, and not as a result of deposition
     through the course of nature should not make any  difference.
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     There was no 'waste'  disposal in the ordinary sense.  The levee
     should not be treated as a waste disposal site."
EPA Response:
     EPA is concerned about potential asbestos health risks,
     regardless of the origin of the material.  The fibers from
     natural versus processed asbestos material have equal
     carcinogenic potential .   The fact that the levee material was
     excavated from its origin and transported to the site
     distinguishes it from a natural formation or outcrop.  The
     waste disposal referred to on Page 1-1 of the OUFS relates to
     the landfilling activity on other parts of the site, not the
     construction of the ring levee.
Comment:

45.  Citing Page 1-2, lines 19-21 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "the OUFS analysis of the causes of flooding in
     Alviso is superficial and that additional analysis is required
     before a remedy is selected."  Moreover, the City suggested
     that "proximity to the Bay and land subsidence..." does not
     take into consideration "a variety of factors relevant to an
     evaluation of flooding risks... including but not limited to
     other flood control devices."  Furthermore, the City of San
     Jose stated that "without an examination which goes beyond
     'proximity to the Bay and land subsidence...' the OUFS is
     deficient and provides an inadequate basis for selection of the
     suitability, vis-a-vis the flooding potential, of any of the
     alternatives."  Finally, the City asserted that "in the absence
     of evidence establishing that the remedial action will not
     increase the risk of flooding, a prudent PRP might be compelled
     to resist a remedial order, in an effort to insulate itself
     from liability for flood damage and asbestos contamination
     which might result from flood water erosion and dispersal of
     the levee."
EPA Response:

     The OUFS did not include a thorough analysis of the flood
     control potential of the levee, because the control of asbestos
     being released from the ring levee is the focus of EPA's
     analysis.  While EPA acknowledges that leaving the levee in
     place rather than removing it allows for the possibility that a
     very large flood may dislodge portions of the levee and
     distribute the asbestos throughout the community, EPA believes
     that the chances of this occurring are relatively remote.

     In such an occurrence, EPA would evaluate the damage to the
     levee .and the dispersion of the asbestos throughout the
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     community and implement the necessary corrective action.   Thus
     the OUFS is not deficient.

     Finally, EPA cannot speculate as to the motivation of a PRP to
     fail to comply with a CERCLA §106 remedial order.
Comment:

46.  Citing Page 1-6, lines 1-2 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that the levee was constructed during, not after, the
     flood.

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges the comment that at least portions of the ring
     levee were constructed during the flood; this information was
     not available during preparation of the report.
Comment:

47.  Citing Page 1-6, lines 6-9 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "it is the City's position that the flooding
     emergency simply left no time to consult the various agencies
     involved.  Moreover, applicable regulations contemplate
     emergency situations, and provide for 'after-the-fact1
     permitting."

EPA Response:

     The wording in the OUFS regarding permit status at the time of
     levee construction was included to fully describe the history
     of the levee.  EPA acknowledges the City's comment that the
     construction was an emergency action, and understands that San
     Jose must obtain an "after-the-fact" permit from the Army Corps
     of Engineers.
Comment:

48.  Citing Page 1-6, lines 8-13 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     asserted that "the City had no plans to construct a levee prior
     to the 1983 flood.  There was no  'tentative flood control plan'
     prior to the construction of the  emergency ring levee and the
     document cited by EPA postdates the construction activity."

EPA Response:

     EPA based  its assumption that the City had planned to construct
     the ring levee on Page 11-16 of the Alviso Ring Levee
     Environmental Impact Report (Ruth and Going, 1984), which
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     states "as a result of severe flooding in the Winter of 1982-
     83, and in the late summer of 1983, a temporary levee was
     constructed to reduce impacts to the Community of Alviso from
     future flooding."  EPA is aware that the quoted document post-
     dates the construction, but assumes that the construction was
     part of the plan which prompted the completion of the EIR.
Comment:

49.  The City of San Jose asserted that Page 1-6, lines 18-19 of the
     OUFS conflicts with statements on Page ES-1, lines 8-10.

EPA Response:

     The Executive Summary should read "the sources of the material
     used for the levee appear to be two quarries containing
     asbestos..." to be consistent with page 1-6.
Comment:

50.  Citing Page 1-8, lines 9-12 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "the OUFS fails to establish either the relevance
     or validity of the raking and shoveling 'experiment* (not test.
     not sampling method, but 'experiment'). or that the OSHA
     permissive exposure limit (for occupational settings) is
     applicable to environmental naturally occurring chrysotile
     asbestos when it is not artificially disturbed by raking and
     shoveling in front of a fan."
        «
EPA Response:

     The DBS experiments were screening tests to investigate the
     potential for risk from inhalation of asbestos.  In that sense
     they are valid indicators of a potential problem.  The OSHA
     permissible exposure limit is based on extensive medical
     evidence of asbestos exposure (see Federal Register; June 20,
     1986, OSHA Rules and Regulations), and was used in the OUFS
     report as a comparison standard or frame of reference for the
     reader.  EPA believes the OSHA standard is applicable to
     environmental asbestos sites if the concentration of the
     asbestos source approaches that of occupational settings, as do
     the ring levee soils.  EPA believes this because the potential
     risks from asbestos inhalation (i.e., lung cancer,
     mesothelioma) remains the same regardless of the setting.
Comment:

51.   Citing  Page  1-10,  lines  1-5 of  the OUFS,  the  City  of  San Jose
      asserted that  the  language is both too  general  and too  brief.
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     Moreover,  the City stated that "it is simply not the case that
     studies show, or permit the reasonable conclusion,  that
     inhalation of any single asbestos fiber,  of any size,  will
     invariably produce an extremely adverse human health effect.
     Indeed, some fibers,  notably chrysotile,  as a result of their
     size and susceptibility to acid decomposition,  seem to pose a
     lower risk to adverse health effects."  The City further
     submitted that "not all forms of asbestos have been thoroughly
     examined 'in numerous epidemiology studies.'   There have been
     numerous studies.  These were not uniform,  and many did not
     (were not able to) distinguish one form of asbestos,
     chrysotile, from others.  The quoted language is therefore
     misleading.  The distinctions in the studies of the effects of
     various forms of asbestos are simply too important to justify
     indiscreet use of the inaccurate collective term 'asbestos'."
EPA Response:
     As stated previously,  EPA considers all asbestos forms to be
     potentially hazardous,  and does not distinguish chrysotile as
     being less hazardous.   It is true that many medical studies
     have attempted to distinguish carcinogenic effects based on
     fiber type.  However,  EPA's position is amply supported by many
     individual and governmental research studies.  As stated in
     1984 by James Mason,  M.D.,  Ph.D, Assistant Surgeon General of
     the United States, "these recent studies have shown that
     chrysotile asbestos is firmly established as a human health
     hazard."  Referenced studies include those by Stanton et. al,
     which has shown that fibers less than 1.5 microns in diameter
     and greater than 8 microns in length^are carcinogenic in
     experimental animals regardless of physiochemical properties;
     Robinson et. al., McDonald, et al., Selikoff, Nicholson et al.,
     Rubino et al., Boutin et al., and Kogan.  Each of these reports
     shows a positive correlation between exposure to chrysotile
     asbestos and biological disease in humans including asbestosis,
     lung cancer, and mesothelioma.
Comment:

52.  Citing Page 1-12, lines 8-9, 12-14, and 25-26 of the OUFS,  the
     City of San Jose noted that it appreciated EPA's concern for
     asbestos exposure, but stated that "concern does not mean that
     a particular action contemplated by EPA is justified."  The
     City further noted that EPA, to date, has not found "a"
     justifiable basis for the promulgation of appropriate standards
     for naturally occurring asbestos in rocks and soil."  The City
     thus concluded that this is the reason EPA has not promulgated
     these standards.  The City of San Jose further asserted that
     "acting against the levee on the basis of data that is
     incomplete - - or worse -- in the face of data indicating that
     different forms of asbestos pose different risks, and that
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     chrysotile may well pose the least risk, would be arbitrary and
     capricious."
EPA Response:

     EPA has acted at many Superfund sites where health standards
     have not been promulgated.  According to the National
     Contingency Plan (40 CFR §300.3), EPA may act to prevent
     "releases or substantial threats of releases of hazardous
     substances into the environment...which may present an imminent
     and substantial danger to public health or welfare."  In
     addition, CERCLA states that EPA is authorized to act to
     remove or arrange for the removal of and provide for remedial
     actions relating to hazardous substances whenever EPA deems it
     necessary to protect the public health, welfare, or the
     environment, CERCLA §104(a)(l), 42 U.S.C. §9604(a)(l).  This is
     consistent with the NCP.  The OUFS presents sufficient data to
     indicate the potential for exposure to a known human
     carcinogen, and thus provides adequate support for a remedial
     action.

Comment:

53.  Citing the OUFS supplemental sheet, dated April 28, 1988, the
     City of San Jose stated "there is no justification for EPA to
     take action until all unresolved matters have been addressed.
     To act otherwise would deny the rights of Alvisans and the PRPs
     to an informed reasonable judgment, and procedural due
     process."  The City based this assertion on the following
     statement contained in  the OUFS supplemental sheet, "levels of
     ambient airborne asbestos in 'the community do not appear to
     differ significantly from other nearby communities."

EPA Response:

     EPA does not believe that there are any remaining unresolved
     matters.  The OUFS report is intended  to address the potential
     for exposure and possible risks due to direct disturbance of
     the soils.
Comment:

54.  Citing Page 1-12, lines 28-29, and Page 1-13, line 1 of the
     OUFS, the City of San Jose questioned the accuracy of the
     described acreage of the levee (8 acres).  The City stated that
     Appendix C, Page C-l of the OUFS cites the current area as.
     being 4.2 acres, and cites the required area for the capping
     alternative as being 4.0 additional acres.
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EPA Response:
     The figure of 8 acres for the total existing levee is based on
     measurement of the levee area as presented on maps of the site
     (Harding Lawson Assoc.,  1987), supported by aerial photographs
     and site verification.   The four acres referred to in Appendix
     C by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service refers only to the area
     of wetland affected by the ring levee, as determined by the
     Corps of Engineers in a letter to D.  Kent Dewell (Director of
     Public Works of San Jose).
Comment:

55.  Citing Page 1-21, lines 24-25 of the OUFS,  the City of San Jose
     asserted that the statement that it appears likely, based on
     the TEM results, that the ring levee was contributing asbestos
     to the ambient air in Alviso during windy periods "seems to be
     an unsupported assumption or opinion."  The City continued:
     "The testing cited does not appear to be designed to
     differentiate between different sources of asbestos dust.
     Considering the widespread indiscriminate dumping of asbestos
     containing wastes that have taken place, the large amount of
     unpaved dirt roads and commercial areas known to contain
     asbestos dust, and the lack of control of this source of re-
     entrained dust generated by both wind and vehicle traffic,  it
     would seem appropriate to assume that other sources, besides
     the levee, are principal contributors.  The City also stated
     that it is not clear how, based on the TEM results cited, the
     conclusion stated, 'it appears likely that the ring levee was
     contributing asbestos', is supported by evidence."  The City
     further noted that evidence refuting EPA's conclusion that "it
     appears likely that the ring levee was contributing asbestos to
     the ambient air in Alviso during windy periods" is given on
     Page 1-21, lines 29-30 of the OUFS:  "Results of the PCLM,  or
     optical microscopy, analysis showed opposite results (Table 1-
     2)."

EPA Response:

     The statement was made that the ring levee appeared to be
     contributing asbestos to the ambient air in Alviso based on the
     TEM results (Page 1-21).  The Woodward-Clyde results show  that
     the TEM data for total asbestos fibers are higher downwind of
     the levee than upwind.  This is true approximately 80 percent
     of the time, based on the Woodward-Clyde statistical analysis
     of the data.  The PCM data do not show this relationship,  since
     the higher fiber counts were observed upwind of the levee.  It
     is important to note that the number of PCM fibers counted was
     very low, which calls into question the accuracy of the  results
     (discussed by Woodward-Clyde).  That  is, the smaller the number
     of fibers counted, the greater  the likelihood  that  the  fibers
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     observed, say 1 or 2 fibers, are caused by blank contamination
     and are not truly the result of the sampling event.

     The acknowledged uncertainty of the Woodward-Clyde data
     indicates that wind erosion may not be the dominant mechanism
     of asbestos entrainment.  The preliminary data from the RI
     study appear to indicate that specific mechanical disturbances,
     rather Chan wind or weather conditions, are most likely the
     cause of asbestos release to the air.

Comment:

56.  The City of San Jose questioned the results of the
     upwind/downwind air monitoring.  The City specifically cited
     Page 1-21, lines 24-27 of the OUFS. which states that "the
     downwind concentrations were less than, or equal to, the
     concentrations upwind of the dike."  Furthermore, the City
     cited the OUFS supplemental sheet, dated April 28, 1988, which
     describes the results of additional air monitoring.  The
     supplemental sheet describes the concentration variances
     between upwind and downwind samples as being "not statistically
     significant," and indicates that "the experiments are not
     considered conclusive at this time and the data are being
   -  reanalyzed..."  The City of San Jose asserted that the OUFS
     supplemental sheet fails to identify specifically which
     experiments are inconclusive, which data are being reanalyzed,
     and why.  The City of San Jose stated that "EPA's failure to
     identify these experiments, or to say why they are not
     considered conclusive leaves the matter open to speculation and
     denies commenters the opportunity to present arguments or
     evidence on this point."  The City further stated that "the
     result [of this process] is a denial of an effective
     opportunity to comment, a denial of due process."

EPA Response:

     The previous response describes Woodward-Clyde's observed
     differences between upwind/downwind air results for TEM versus
     PLM, and that, for PLM, the upwind asbestos results were often
     higher.  The Woodward-Clyde report very clearly points out that
     the air monitoring data, both TEM and PLM, are not
     statistically conclusive.  The OUFS supplemental sheet refers
     to both the Woodward-Clyde data and the ambient air monitoring
     performed.  Ambient air data also are not statistically
     conclusive, in that they do not show a clear difference between
     asbestos concentration upwind of town and within the town
     itself.  It is the CDM air data collected during the RI
     investigation that are being reanalyzed.  Because of the
     uncertainty in the CDM air data, and the fact that CDM
     monitored the community as a whole and not the ring levee
     specifically, these data were not  included in the OUFS.  The
     City will have an opportunity to comment on  these  results when
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     Che RI/FS for the overall community is released for public
     comment in late 1988.
Comment:

57.  Referring to Page 2-2,  lines 18-20 of the OUFS,  the City of San
     Jose stated that this "seems to highlight the scientific and
     policy dilemma faced by EPA.  A no-threshold exposure value for
     which there is no danger of cancer from exposure is cited...as
     the level required for safety.  Noting the existence of ambient
     background levels in the area, the City then asked "how...can
     an assessment of the efficiency of any proposed remediation
     method be determined as decreasing risk to an (undefined)
     'insignificant1 level?"  The City finally noted that "only the
     complete elimination of asbestos from the ambient environment
     could be considered as a zero threshold or 'insignificant'
     risk."

EPA Response:

     The risk from exposure referred to on page 2-2 of the OUFS is
     the incremental risk posed by inhalation of asbestos in the
     levee soils, over and above the ambient background risk which
     exists not only in Alviso but in most urban areas.  EPA's goal
     is to remediate a specific source to reduce cancer risk to an
     insignificant amount above the background risk.
Comment:

58.  Citing Page 2-2, line 20 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that this "is not a valid worst-case assumption for the
     simple reason that we know, at least with some statistical
     certainty, that the highest level observed is not a valid
     likely mean value.  Even a worst-case assumption has to be
     tempered by some reasonable estimate of the likely percent of
     asbestos present in the fill.  A worst-case assumption does not
     allow choosing a discrete data that may fit a previously taken
     assumption or unrecognized bias."

EPA Response:

     The statement referred to (Page 2-2, line 20) is simply a
     statement of the presence of asbestos.  The statement "...up
     to 40 percent..." is clear that this is a maximum value.  This
     value is not used as a worst-case assumption to determine risk.
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Comment:

59.  The City of San Jose, citing Page 2-2,  line 20 of the OUFS,
     suggested that "if this section is to serve some function,
     [then] the worst-case assumption [should] be based on a
     concentration based on the mean, not the extreme of the
     existing data."

EPA Response:

     As presented in the previous response,  the maximum value of 40
     percent asbestos serves only as an illustration of the presence
     of asbestos in the context of the discussion of asbestos
     toxicity.
Comment:

60.  The City of San Jose questioned the logic of projecting a
     lifetime exposure and a "predicted level in air" from asbestos
     concentration data for soil.  The City further stated that the
     OUFS "contains no substantiation for that assumption."

EPA Response:

     It is an obvious fact that asbestos fibers in air are released
     from an asbestos source, whether serpentine rock, serpentine-
     containing soils, or manufactured products with asbestos
     fibers.  The OUFS contains ample substantiation of this fact in
     the form of the DHS experiments, which show a release of fibers
     into air during disturbance of soils containing asbestos.   The
     EPA Region IX Air Guideline quoted on page 2-2 was included
     only as support for the statements concerning asbestos
     toxicity.  In fact, lifetime exposures were examined using air,
     and not soil, values, as discussed in Section 4.2 of the OUFS.
Comment:

61.  Citing Page 2-4 of the OUFS, under "the description of NESHAP,"
     and the text following the table, the City of San Jose stated
     that "EPA's description of the NESHAP neglects to mention that
     there is apparently no prohibition which addresses the use of
     rocks and soil which contain chrysotile asbestos in its
     naturally occurring form from being used as fill material for
     levees, dikes, roadbeds, or any other purpose."  The City
     further stated that "conceptually, it would seem that the rocks
     and soil in the levee are no different from any other
     serpentine rocks and soil in their natural setting."

     Citing the lack of "regulations or health standards that apply
     directly to outdoor air asbestos," and asserting that there is
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     "conceptually" no difference between the levee material and
     other serpentine rocks and soil,  the City of San Jose stated
     that "to order action against the levee, and not other sites
     where serpentine rocks and soil are found,  without stating a
     rationale for making the distinction,  is not justified.  The
     OUFS contains no such rationale."
EPA Response:
     EPA's concern and justification for action is  based on the
     proximity of the town's residents to the levee,  as opposed to
     other asbestos situations where people do not  live nearby.
     Also, the levee is no longer a naturally-occurring outcrop or
     occurrence of asbestos, since it has been quarried,  transported
     and placed in a new location.  Thus, §104(a)(l)  of CERCLA, 42
     U.S.C. §9601(a)(l) provides the authority for  EPA to remedy the
     situation here.
Comment:

62.  The City of San Jose,  citing Page 2-24,  lines 18-21 of the
     OUFS, which states that regulations require the use of RCRA
     landfills for possible disposal of the levee material, stated
     that this "constitutes a basic underlying flaw...in both EPA's
     approach to the general problem of naturally occurring asbestos
     and the...OUFS."  The  City stated that this "represents an
     illogical interpretation of policy."  Noting that  EPA
     classifies asbestos as a carcinogen, the City asserted that
     "the naturally occurring forms of asbestos found in the soil at
     the site do not require the stringent criteria and controls
     needed for final disposal that other hazardous wastes present."
     Furthermore, noting that many other states would not consider
     the levee material a hazardous waste, the City asserted that
     "the appropriate long-term disposal requirement for asbestos -
     containing soil is burial, and that asbestos-containing soil
     "does not require specific liners or other controls at the
     burial site because asbestos is both chemically inert and
     insoluble in water so that migration is not a problem."  The
     City supported this assertion by noting the "enormous amounts
     of this material currently safely contained by nature..."  The
     City further stated that "limiting the study to consideration
     of RCRA landfills is a failure to consider reasonable
     alternatives."  The City stated that "removal and placement of
     the material in a burial site is an option which must be
     evaluated if the study is to be complete."  Without endorsing
     any specific option, the City suggested that using the levee
     material as fill for a freeway construction project should be
     considered "especially...if EPA flooding/engineering  studies
     suggest that one of the cover alternatives would pose a risk of
     future flood damage."  Finally, the City of San Jose  stated
     that, in addition to non-RCRA landfills and freeway fill,  "a
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     non-landfill burial site which will provide a final resting
     place for the material, such as a quarry,  should also be
     considered."
EPA Response:
     As stated in a previous response, EPA has determined that
     placement of the levee in a RCRA-approved landfill, if off-
     site disposal is chosen, is not necessary.  However, a
     California certified Class II landfill would be required as  a
     disposal site, since asbestos is classified as a toxic
     contaminant by the State California Administrative Code, Title
     22, Section 66680(c).   The requirements of Class II disposal,
     as promulgated under California law, would apply to the levee.
     Any disposal site other than a Class II landfill, such as a
     quarry or construction site, would not be feasible under the
     State law, absent a waiver.
Comment:

63.  The City of San Jose stated that "the fact that the EPA has to
     discard what may be the safest and best long-term solution,
     removal and burial, because EPA's administrative requirements
     are inflexible, has extreme implications for this project."
     The City asserted that EPA must give consideration to disposing
     asbestos-containing soil in non-RCRA landfills.  'Moreover, the
     City"stated that it "submits that disposal in a RCRA landfill
     is not required" under 40 CFR §300.65, and that Class II or
     Class III landfills should be considered for disposal of the
     levee material.  Finally, the City stated that "the fact that
     asbestos-containing soils are routinely being excavated and
     used within this region and throughout the state, without
     similar controls or concern only confounds public perception of
     this issue."

EPA Response:

     Please refer to the previous response, which addresses
     appropriate disposal locations.
Comment:

64.  Referring to Page 3-15, lines 20-22 of the OUFS, the City of
     San Jose asserted that the statement "seems to be an
     unsupported assumption."  In support of this assertion, the
     City stated that appropriate mitigation measures for dust
     generation from excavation "are routinely used," and that "the
     excavation and transport of material should not present a
     health threat."
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EPA Response:
     The alternative for off-site disposal has the greatest
     potential for risk to residents due to extensive excavation,
     loading, and hauling activities.   However,  if this alternative
     were implemented,  every available and appropriate measure would
     be taken to minimize these risks.  Oust mitigation measures
     were not detailed in the OUFS,  since they will be part of the
     actual design phase of the project.
Comment:

65.  In reference to the potential removal of the levee, the City of
     San Jose stated that "serpentine rocks and soil are routinely
     excavated and hauled..."  Furthermore, the City stated that "no
     restrictions or controls have been set by EPA which covers
     those operations," and that "if controls are needed, they
     should be promulgated."  Finally, the City stated that "the
     inference to be drawn from the failure to promulgate such
     regulations is that none are needed."

EPA Response:

     Refer to the response to comment 61.  EPA and the State of
     California are studying the statewide asbestos problem.
     Regulations to deal with the statewide asbestos problem are
     being evaluated at this time.
Comment:

66.  Citing Page 3-17, lines 17-19 of the OUFS, and the removal
     costs cited in the Containment Alternatives Summary Table on
     Page 3-18, the City of San Jose noted an apparent inconsistency
     between the text and the data in the table.  The text states
     that the removal option ($7,969,900) is seven times more
     expensive than "similar options" ($1,380,600 to $2,950,400),
     and the City stated that this is "an obvious error in
     mathematical calculation."  Referring to this apparent incon-
     sistency, the City stated that this "raises the question as to
     what other errors in calculation, perhaps less obvious, are
     within the body of this study and have formed the basis for
     some of the calculations and recommendations contained in the
     document."

EPA Response:

     Page 3-17 of the OUFS states that the "...capital costs
     [emphasis added] are seven times more [for the off-site
     landfill option] than similar alternatives."  If the capital
     costs in Table 3-1 are compared, it is obvious that the off-
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     site landfill is between 5 to 7 times higher than the Soil
     Cover and Gunite Cover alternatives.  No mathematical error is
     present.
Comment:

67.  Citing Page 3-20, lines 17-19 of the OUFS,  the City of San Jose
     stated that "there is no evidence known to the City to suggest
     that 'this fixation product' is present in the operable unit
     under discussion, i.e., the Ring Levee.  To the City's
     knowledge, the only form of asbestos in the levee is naturally
     occurring chrysotile asbestos found in its natural condition in
     the rocks and soil in the levee."  The City stated that
     "unfortunately, the quoted language illustrates shortcomings in
     the OUFS; the failure to differentiate between types of
     asbestos, and the failure to attempt to identify the source or
     origin of the asbestos being discussed."  Moreover, the City of
     San Jose noted that the levee is a "discrete, identifiable
     portion of the site," and stated that "the failure to
     specifically identify 'asbestos' and its source, renders this
     portion of the OUFS misleading."

EPA Response:

     The OUFS must be consistent with the remedial options being
     considered for the remainder of the South Bay Asbestos site.
     Since fixation products, i.e., cement/asbestos pipe, are
     present in other parts of the site, it would be difficult to
     Justify fixation for the ring levee when fixation products are
     an asbestos source elsewhere in Alviso.  Regardless of the
     origin of the asbestos, whether manufactured or naturally-
     occurring in soils, the fibers potentially liberated to the air
     pose the same risk, in EPA's opinion, to residents in Alviso.
     EPA is aware that cement/asbestos pipe or fixation products are
     not present in the levee.
Comment:

68.  Citing Page 3-27, lines 32-34 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that the cost estimate "seems to be totally
     unsupported."  The City further stated that "an estimate range
     of cost is first cited, then ignored for no apparent reason and
     with no explanation.  Based on the information provided, the
     estimated range of costs for the Plasma Fusion alternative
     would be $20,436,960 to $95,372,480."

EPA Response:

     The statement on page 3-27 has been misinterpreted.  The second
     sentence, under the heading "Cost" states: "Estimates of total
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     project costs [emphasis added]...  range from $300 to $1,400 per
     cubic yard..."  The next sentence  then begins,  "Based on a
     treatment cost [emphasis added]  of $125 per cubic yard..."  The
     costs estimated in the OUFS are  based on $125 per cubic yard
     for treatment, plus costs for mobilization, capital equipment,
     levee removal, hauling, treatment,  disposal,  reconstruction,
     restoration,  and demobilization,  for a total project cost of
     $283 per cubic yard (top of page 3-28).  This compares closely
     with the low end of the range referenced by the University of
     Minnesota on page 3-27.
Comment:

69.  The City of San Jose stated that no authority is cited for Page
     4-5, lines 3-5 of the OUFS:  "filling activities to provide
     buildable land have claimed the majority of the Bay marshes
     over the last 100 years."  The City further asserted that the
     statement may not be justified.  The City suggested that 80% of
     the "lost wetlands" have been converted to "salt ponds or
     similar uses," and "only 11% have been converted to industrial
     uses."  Moreover, the City stated its belief that "the San
     Francisco International Airport, Oakland International and the
     U.S. Naval Air Station, Alameda, account for nearly all of the
     11%."

EPA Response:

     Reference for the statement that the majority of the Bay
     wetlands have been lost to filling comes from Page II-1 of the
     Alviso Ring Levee Environmental Impact Report (Ruth and Going,
     1984), prepared for the City of San Jose.  EPA included the.
     statement to reinforce U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Army
     Corps of Engineers concern about wetlands losses.  Research
     into the exact disposition of lost wetlands throughout the Bay
     is outside the scope of this Responsiveness Summary.
Comment:

70.  The City of San Jose asserted that violations identified on
     Page 4-5, lines 3-5 of the OUFS are inappropriate.  The City
     suggested that "in the absence of notice and a hearing,
     followed by an adjudication, it is premature for the Agency to
     state flatly, without qualification, that 'violations have
     occurred.1"  The City further stated that "in order to preserve
     its defenses, and to avoid any adverse inferences which might
     be drawn from failure to comment, the City of San Jose, on its
     own behalf, and on behalf of its present and former officers,
     employees and agents, specifically denies any and all
     'violations' referred to in the OUFS, expressly or by
     implication."
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EPA Response:
     EPA acknowledges this comment.  However, EPA understands that
     San Jose has not obtained the appropriate Army Corps of
     Engineers "after the fact" permit for construction of the ring
     levee, nor has San Jose implemented mitigation for the loss of
     wetlands and endangered species habitat since levee
     construction in 1983.
Comment:

71.  Referring to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service calculations
     for lost wetland acreage given on Page 4-6, lines 5-7 of the
     OUFS, the City of San Jose stated "for the record, and to
     preserve its objections, the City disagrees with the USF&W
     calculations."  The City submitted that the calculations "are
     without demonstrated justification in law or fact."

EPA Response:

     The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service submitted a Draft Habitat
     Evaluation Procedure (HEP) calculation to identify for the City
     of San Jose and EPA what possible acreage could be required for
     mitigation.  These calculations were intended only for
     discussion purposes.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has
     not provided a final acreage calculation to date.
Comment:

72.  Citing Page 4-8, lines 7-10 and 32-34 of the OUFS. the City of
     San Jose submitted that "the 'toy truck' experiment has not
     been demonstrated to be a valid method and that it has not been
     shown to have any scientific validity.  The City disagrees that
     the 'toy truck* experiment has been shown to be a 'plausible
     worst case.'"

EPA Response:

     The toy truck experiment was selected as the "plausible worst
     case" because it was an attempt by the State to demonstrate
     the risk to a child playing in the dirt, without the use of a
     fan to blow the dirt.  EPA acknowledges that the DHS
     experiments do not have valid quality control/quality assurance
     checks, such as blanks or duplicate samples.  However, the
     plausible worst case risk calculation results in a very wide
     range of risks  (depending on how "risk fibers" or fibers
     greater than 5 microns are determined) which serves to indicate
     the potential for risk.
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Comment:

73.  Referring to Page 4-8,  lines 32-34 of the OUFS,  the City of San
     Jose stated that "the OUFS contains no evidence  to support
     [the] assumption" that a child would play on the levee for 5
     hours every day for 6 days of each week of the summer months.
     The City thus suggested that "the exposure assumption has not
     been shown to have a valid basis," and stated that "the
     exposure assumptions should be redone."

EPA Response:

     The assumptions used for the exposure scenario are, in EPA's
     opinion, reasonable, and are supported by photographed
     observations of children playing at the site.  Guidelines for
     estimating exposure to children in such a situation are
     presented in EPA's Superfund Public Health Evaluation Manual
     (EPA, 1986b) and Final Guidelines for Carcinogenic Risk
     Assessment (Federal Register, 1986b).   EPA followed these
     guidelines in estimating exposure here.
Comment:

74.  Citing Page 4-14, line 2 of the OUFS ("No Action would not be
     acceptable to the community given the emergency remedial work
     performed to date and the information EPA has provided on the
     dangers of asbestos."), the City of San Jose asserted that the
     statement "seems to be unsupported opinion."  The City
     continued:  "The community has questioned, at the recent
     public meeting, why EPA has taken no action regarding the
     obvious sources of dust, the community streets and truck yards,
     but is [sic] seemed apparent that they had little knowledge
     regarding the 'remedial work performed to date* (assuming this
     is a reference to the polymer spraying)."

EPA Response:

     EPA based the statements regarding community acceptance on the
     input and comments gathered from residents throughout the
     project.  Because of the work performed to date at the site,
     and the health warnings that EPA has issued since 1985, EPA  is
     convinced that the residents would not accept No Action.  The
     fact that comments were raised at the Public Meeting (held
     April 28, 1988) about EPA's lack of response regarding the
     truck yards and the streets indicates the public expectations
     of action at the site.  A fact sheet announcing that the ring
     levee would be sprayed with polymer to prevent dust migration
     was distributed in June 1987.
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Comment:

75.  Citing Page 4-14, lines 10-11 of the OUFS,  the City of San Jose
     stated that "the unidentified 'local agencies' and the nature
     of their 'expressed concerns' should be identified in the OUFS,
     and opportunity to address their concerns should be permitted.
     Failure to identify them, and to permit comment, denies
     procedural due process to the PRPs."

EPA Response:

     The local agencies referred to on page 4-14 and throughout the
     report include the California Department of Health Services,
     Santa Clara County Public Health Department, the Santa Clara
     Valley Water District, and the Bay Area Air Quality Management
     District.  Records of communication between these agencies and
     EPA or the State Department of Health Services are included in
     the Administrative Record for review.
Comment:

76.  The City of San Jose stated that it is "most concerned that the
     opinions of the community be considered."  Furthermore, citing
     Page 4-19, line 14 of the OUFS, which refers to community
     acceptance of the soil cover, the City stated that
     "documentation of public meetings in which such opinions were
     expressed should be provided."

EPA Response:

     EPA is likewise very concerned that the community's input and
     concerns be addressed regarding any remedial actions.  EPA has
     conducted a series of public meetings, and has distributed
     information using flyers and fact sheets throughout the
     project.  For a complete listing of community relations
     activities conducted by EPA to date, see Section 1 of  this
     Responsiveness Summary, "Background on Community Involvement
     and Concerns."
Comment:

77,  The City of San Jose asserted that the statement regarding
     asbestos concentrations in Alviso given on Page B-19, lines 34-
     37 of the OUFS should be considered with the statement  in the
     April 28, 1988 OUFS supplemental sheet that "the levels of
     ambient airborne asbestos in the community at present do not
     appear to differ significantly from other nearby communities."
     The City further asserted that "these statements suggest that
     selection of a "remedy1 before full evaluation of necessity and
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     appropriateness of the remedy has been evaluated would be
     premature . '*
EPA Response:
     The remedy has been fully evaluated In accordance with the
     guidance regulations in 40 CFR §300.68,  and the current EPA
     guidance as cited on page 2-1 of the OUFS.   The statements on
     page B-19 of the OUFS were not made by EPA, but rather by DHS
     in 1985.  The OUFS supplemental sheet is the more current
     reference, and reflects the recent RI/FS air monitoring data
     which show no conclusive statistical difference between upwind
     and downwind air stations.  However, since  EPA believes that
     the greatest risk of asbestos exposure is through mechanical
     disturbance of soils, this ambient air data does not directly
     impact this remedy selection process.
Comment:

78.  The City of San Jose asserted that Page 1-2,  line 13 of the
     OUFS "demonstrates,  in EPA's own language, that 'major
     uncertainties'  continue to exist with respect to health
     criteria for exposure to asbestos via inhalation."  Referring
     to these uncertainties, and language in the OUFS supplemental
     sheet, the City further suggested that it is inappropriate to
     select a permanent remedy until "the 'major uncertainties' are
     resolved."  The City stated that it "urges the EPA to take
     prompt action to resolve the 'major uncertainties' and to make
     its selection,  once the 'major uncertainties' are resolved."

EPA Response:

     The "major uncertainties" statement referred to on page 1-2 of
     the Toxicity Profile for Asbestos, presented in Appendix B,
     must be viewed in the context of the report.  The uncertainties
     are associated with the development of health criteria.  There
     is no uncertainty that asbestos inhalation causes adverse
     health effects.  Principally, asbestos health experts are
     divided on the issue of what size of fiber causes the greatest
     risk.  Various medical studies differ in their reporting of
     fiber sizes, size distributions, fiber types, and so on.  The
     uncertainty faced by the medical community is what criteria are
     most relevant to health effects.  For example, should total
     fibers inhaled be the primary indication of risk?  Are fibers
     longer than 5 microns more hazardous than short fibers?  What
     is the best way to convert occupational setting fiber
     measurements to calculate (typically lower) ambient air risks?
     These uncertainties are operational problems that do not  change
     the central fact of the carcinogenic potential of asbestos.
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Comment:

79.  Citing Page 2-1, line 32, and Page 2-2. lines 1-2 of the OUFS.
     regarding the health effects of asbestos, the City of San Jose
     stated that "the language illustrates the need to closely
     examine the sweeping generalizations currently extant regarding
     asbestos.  The statement that 'asbestosis is primarily involved
     in occupationally exposed individuals following long-term
     exposure to high levels of asbestos1 would seem to be more to
     the point."  The City further asserted that "the Alviso Ring
     Levee does not involve a risk of long-term occupational
     exposure to high levels of asbestos, and must be evaluated
     differently."

EPA Response:

     The statement on page 2-1 and 2-2 of the Toxicity Profile for
     Asbestos in Appendix B has been misinterpreted.  What is stated
     in Appendix B is that asbestosis (fibrosis of the lung tissue)
     is primarily caused by long-term occupational exposure to high
     asbestos levels.  Asbestosis is a non-cancerous disease which
     is not a factor in the general population.  Therefore, it was
     not discussed further in the Profile.
Comment:                                     •

80.  The City of San Jose cited Page 3-5, line 7 of the OUFS:
     ...fine chrysotile fibers were not studied because they could
     not be measured..."  Referring to this statement, the City
     asserted that "the... language illustrates the points that not
     all 'asbestos* studies are studies of the same fibers, and that
     results of a given study are not necessarily applicable to all
     forms of asbestos, particularly chrysotile asbestos."  The City
     thus submitted that "the health effects and exposure
     assumptions in the OUFS should be reevaluated, using studies
     specific to chrysotile."

EPA Response:

     The focus of the studies referred to in Appendix B of the OUFS,
     the Toxicity Profile, is investigation of why and how asbestos
     fibers cause diseases of the lung.  It is true that the various
     medical studies of asbestos disease have not always measured
     the same things, such as number of small fibers, or the aspect
     ratio of the fiber (length to width), or asbestos type.  But,
     as addressed in a previous comment and elsewhere in this
     Responsiveness Summary (see the response to comment 7), high
     rates of lung cancer have been related to all types of
     asbestos, including chrysotile.
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Comment:

81.  Citing Page 3-6,  lines 13,  18-19,  and 22-25 of the OUFS, which
     refer to health risks between different asbestos fiber types,
     the City of San Jose stated the following:  "It is submitted
     that chrysotile's fiber size and degradation character,
     especially in nonoccupational settings are significant factors
     which merit closer attention."  Moreover,  San Jose asserted
     that the OUFS fails to make the distinction between human
     health effects related to high and low ambient airborne levels
     of chrysotile asbestos.

EPA Response:

     It is true that there are many more studies on the effects of
     asbestos, including chrysotile, on workers than-on non-
     occupationally exposed individuals.  However, EPA calculates
     risk for a carcinogen by assuming that there is no "safe" level
     or "threshold value", that is, that any exposure to a
     carcinogen, no matter how small, could potentially cause
     cancer.  Thus the cancer rates in high exposure,  worker
     populations are extrapolated to estimate much lower cancer
     rates in the lower-exposure general population.  This is
     explained in greater detail in EPA's Superfund Public Health
     Evaluation Manual (EPA 540/1-86-060).  This process of
     predicting risk from lower rates of exposure by extrapolating
     risk from higher rates of exposure is implied in the discussion
     on page 3-6 of the OUFS.
Comment:

82.  Referring to Page 3-7, lines 1-6 and lines 16-17 of the OUFS,
     the City of San Jose asserted that "to impose expensive
     requirements which purport to solve a problem allegedly created
     by a naturally occurring substance found in rocks and soil in
     its natural state in widespread areas, before the 'considerable
     controversy' is resolved, and the differential risks are
     understood, is to act on the basis of insufficient information.
     In this setting, remedial orders would be arbitrary and
     capricious."

EPA Response:

     As stated in the response to comment 78, there is no question
     that inhalation of asbestos fibers causes cancer in humans.
     Thus, EPA has taken the position that all asbestos fiber types
     should be considered hazardous to be protective of human
     health.  CERCLA states that response actions may be undertaken
     if EPA has  reason to believe that illness or disease may be
     attributable to exposure to a hazardous substance (CERCLA
     §104(B)(1), 42 U.S.C. §9604(B)(1)).  Since asbestos fibers are
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     being released into the atmosphere from the levee, EPA may act,
     consistent with the NCP, to remedy the situation.
Comment:

83.  Citing Page 4-1, lines 5-8,  lines 23-28, and lines 29-30,  and
     Page 4-2, lines 1-2 of the OUFS,  relating to asbestos health
     risks, the City of San Jose stated that the language
     "illustrates the limitations of the data available."  Noting
     these uncertainties, and citing the statement in the OUFS
     supplemental sheet that the Alviso concentrations "do not
     differ significantly from other nearby communities," the City
     asserted that "to order remedial action before the OUFS
     contains data adequate to justify the remedial action
     contemplated would be to act on 'inconclusive or equivocal'
     data.  Given these limitations, and the limited, inconclusive,
     equivocal information presented in the OUFS, a decision based
     on the OUFS would be arbitrary and capricious."

EPA Response:

     In response to the cited references, the language clearly
     states that inhalation exposure to asbestos has been
     established as a cancer risk; the "uncertainty" mentioned is
     the carcinogenicity of ingested asbestos [emphasis added].
     Pursuant to CERCLA §104, any remedial action can be undertaken
     at the site if the threat [emphasis added]  of a release is
     present; the OUFS has established the threat of an asbestos
     release.
Comment:

84.  The City of San Jose cited Page 4-2, line 1 of the OUFS as
     additional evidence "that the nonoccupational studies are
     'inconclusive and equivocal.'"  The City asserted that
     "selection of a permanent remedy should be based on
     conclusive. unequivocal studies," and suggested that the
     selection process include such studies.

EPA Response:

     As stated on page 4-2 of the Toxicity Profile for Asbestos, the
     studies of non-occupational asbestos exposure are inconclusive;
     no definitive or unequivocal studies exist to incorporate into
     the OUFS.  However, based on the fact that the same hazardous
     substance (asbestos) is present here, and that occupational
     studies have demonstrated without question that asbestos is a
     human carcinogen, EPA believes that at least a potential risk
     exists in Alviso from the ring levee.  CERCLA §104, U.S.C.
     §9604, provides that EPA may respond to potential, as well as
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     proven, risks to public health, welfare, or the environment.
     EPA is proceeding conservatively to protect the public health,
     by assuming that the evidence for worker exposure and asbestos
     disease also applies to ambient situations, although at lower
     rates.
Comment:

85.  The City of San Jose cited Page 4-7, lines 24-25 of the OUFS as
     additional evidence of varying risks for different asbestos
     types, and noted that "chrysotile seems to be associated with
     the lowest risks."

EPA Response:

     The City has misinterpreted the citation on page 4-7 of the
     Toxicity Profile.  The discussion on page 4-7 is related to
     gastrointestinal cancers from asbestos.  The statement is made
     that amphiboles may pose a greater risk than chrysotile for
     mesothelioma of the p^rlT^TI?11!?! (lining of the abdomen).  The
     next sentence then states "No clear risk differences [emphasis
     added] related to fiber type has been demonstrated for lung
     cancer.
Comment:

86.  Citing Page 4-8, lines 5-7 and lines 24-25 of the OUFS, the
     City of San Jose stated that "the comment as to the
     vulnerability of chrysotile (to dissolve in acid, to split into
     smaller fibers, or to dissolve in the lung) indicates that the
     risks of chrysotile exposure may well be lower than for other
     forms of asbestos."  Moreover, the City asserted that "the
     'limited1 information as to the occurrence of asbestos-related
     diseases among persons not directly exposed at the work place1
     suggests that additional information should be obtained as soon
     as possible.  As soon as it becomes available, but not before,
     EPA should select a remedy, based on that information."

EPA Response:

     In order to answer the uncertainties regarding the differences
     in fiber type and disease response, a very expensive and
     lengthy epidemiological study would be required involving
     extensive biopsy studies of lung tissue from asbestos disease
     victims.  That type of original research involving many years
     of study is not feasible as a requirement for remedial action.
     EPA may, under CERCLA §104, select remedial action based on the
     threat of a release of a known carcinogen.

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Comment:

87.  Citing Page 6-6, lines 11-12 and lines 17-18 of the OUFS, the
     City of San Jose again asserted that "it appears that the
     generalized statements in the OUFS as to the risks posed by
     asbestos may not apply to the risk posed by the naturally
     occurring chrysotile asbestos in the levee.  There is a
     differential, and it should be taken into account that a
     policy which fails to consider the differences in the risks is
     deficient.  For that reason, the OUFS is inadequate,  as this
     differential has not been addressed."

EPA Response:

     As stated in previous responses, EPA regards all forms of
     asbestos as hazardous substances under CERCLA.  See 40 CFR
     §302.4.  Even if some "differential" may exist, it is
     undisputable that chrysotile asbestos is a known human
     carcinogen.  EPA has considered the unique facts of asbestos in
     the levee and has concluded that it poses a potential risk to
     human health, welfare, and the environment.  The potential
     differential, therefore, has been taken into account.
Comment:

88.  Citing Page 7-1, lines 8-13 and 19-20 of the OUFS, the City of
     San Jose stated that "the blanket indictment of asbestos is not
     completely justified.  EPA should attempt to conduct studies
     evaluating the individual asbestos materials.  Only when this
     is done can the OUFS serve as a basis for rational decision."

EPA Response:

     Please see the responses to the previous two comments regarding
     evaluation of the effects of asbestos type.
Comment:

89.  Citing Page C-l, lines 13-18 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     suggested that  "the specific statutory basis, and all relevant
     implementing regulations, should be presented as a cornerstone
     of the [U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service mitigation] policy," if
     the policy is to be observed.  The City further asserted that
     "a reference to  'policy' without providing specific authority
     as the basis of  the policy, is an inadequate foundation for
     exactions.  Citation to  'policy' without citing authority,
     requires commenters to engage in speculations as to the basis
     for the  'policy,' and denies them the opportunity to
     effectively challenge the policy."
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EPA Response:
     The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service mitigation policy referred
     to on page C-l of Appendix C was cited in Chapter 2 of the
     OUFS in Table 2-1 under Federal ARARs on page 2-16.  The
     mitigation policy is contained in Federal Register Volume 46,
     No. 15, pages 7644-7663, and establishes mitigation goals to
     avoid critical habitat loss.  In addition, mitigation is
     discussed in the Endangered Species Act (16 U.S.C. §1531, 50
     CFR §200) and The National Environmental Policy Act (42 U.S.C.
     §§4332-4370), as discussed in the letter to EPA from the U.S.
     Fish and Wildlife Service included in Appendix C.  The actual
     draft mitigation plan contained in Appendix C was prepared in
     accordance with U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Division of
     Ecological Services, guidance document ESM 102 entitled
     "Habitat Evaluation Procedures" (HEP).
Comment:

90.  Citing Page C-l, lines 13-18 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that "to the extent that the creation of new wetlands is
     contemplated as a remedial requirement, the U.S. Fish and
     Wildlife Service should be required to present evidence that
     'conversion-into-wetlands1 projects are effective, and that the
     uplands loss is justified."  The City asserts that the OUFS
     fails to address these points, and that it is deficient until
     is does.

EPA Response:

     Pursuant to CERCLA §121, 42 U.S.C. §9621, EPA is required to
     take into account all applicable, relevant, and appropriate
     regulatory requirements (ARARs) in selecting a remedy for each
     Superfund site.  The wetlands requirements are ARARs.  CERCLA
     does not require the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to "present
     evidence" of effectiveness or a discussion of the
     "justification" of the wetlands conversion.  Thus, the OUFS is
     not deficient.  Please refer to the response to comment 89.

Comment:

91.  Citing Page C-l, lines 13-18 of the OUFS, the City of San Jose
     stated that the 8 acres of "lost wetlands" cited conflicts with
     an Army Corps of Engineers estimate of 4.2 acres lost by
     construction of the levee.

EPA Response:

     The statement on Page C-l of Appendix C of the OUFS  that
     "wetlands must be identified to offset the loss of
     approximately 8 acres of  land to  the levee" should read:   "to
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offset the loss of approximately 4.2 acres of wetlands to the
original levee, and 1.5 acres of wetlands due to the proposed
cover alternatives" [discussed in Appendix F of the OUFS).
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III(C)    COMMENTS MADE BY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES:

Comments Submitted by Federal Agencies:

     Comment:

     92.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service expressed concern about the
          statements in the OUFS regarding the future of the unauthorized
          fill and the failure of this effort to provide mitigation to
          offset wetland losses incurred by placement of the unauthorized
          fill placed in 1983 for the clean-up efforts.

     EPA Response:

          EPA feels that the best remedial option for the levee is
          placement of a cover to prevent asbestos exposure, rather than
          removal of the levee.  The future of the levee and the
          engineered cover will be determined by the City of San Jose,
          who will be responsible for long-term maintenance after
          completion of the cover.  EPA is currently negotiating with the
          U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the City of San Jose to
          designate lands for mitigation, to offset the loss of wetlands
          due to the unauthorized fill,  as described on page C-l of
          Appendix C.  Since specific land areas have not been identified
          for mitigation, the costs involved could not be discussed in
          detail in the OUFS.
     Comment:

     93.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service expressed concern about the
          use of draft technical information pertaining to mitigation,
          which was provided earlier by the Service for the temporary
          solution (i.e., emergency soil capping) proposed by EPA.

     EPA Response:

          The draft Technical Mitigation Plan prepared by the U.S. Fish
          and Wildlife Service was included in Appendix C for
          completeness, to demonstrate how wetlands mitigation goals are
          established using the Habitat Evaluation Procedures.  EPA is
          aware that the plan is a draft and will be reevaluated after
          the final remedy is selected.
     Comment:

     94.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, referring to%the discussion
          in the OUFS of the off-site containment alternative (Page 3-
          15), stated that the sentence "(a) after the levee is removed
          and replaced, the levee would have restricted use" implies that
          replacement of the unauthorized levee is a foregone conclusion.
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     The commenters stated that this was not so and stressed that
     the asbestos clean-up program does not take the place of the
     public interest review process required in the Army Corps of
     Engineers regulatory program.
EPA Response:
     EPA acknowledges this comment.  Replacement of the levee is
     subject to other government processes.
Comment:

95.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, referring to the statement
     on Page 4-5 of the OUFS that the Service's mitigation goal for
     wetlands is no net loss of in-kind habitat values, stated that
     this was incorrect.  The Service's goal is no net loss of in-
     kind wetland acreage or value.

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates this clarification of the statement regarding
     wetlands mitigation goals.
Comment:

96.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service recommended removal of the
     unauthorized fill and restoration of wetland values of the area
     covered by the fill.  In addition, the Service recommended that
     mitigation be provided to offset the interim loss of wetland
     values for the period the unauthorized fill was in place.  The
     Service further recommended removal of the material and
     restoration of wetland values and the provision of mitigation
     for the loss of wildlife values that has occurred to date.

EPA Response:

     EPA thanks the Service for its opinion as to the best remedial
     alternative.  EPA is cognizant of the mitigation goals
     proposed by the Service, and is working to reach agreement with
     the City of San Jose so that those goals can.be met.
Comment:

97.  The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service maintained that it was
     necessary for EPA to initiate consultation under  the auspices
     of Section 7 of the Endangered Species Act.
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     EPA Response:
          EPA is prepared to initiate consultation under Section 7 of the
          Endangered Species Act and has been in contact with the
          Service's Endangered Species liaison.   EPA believes that CERCIA
          §121(e) provides an exemption from "Section 7 consultation" at
          this site.  However, EPA will comply with the substantive
          requirements of the Endangered Species Act.
Comments Submitted bv State of California Agencies:

     Comment:

     98.  The Resources Agency of California asked that they be given an
          opportunity to comment on any landftiling remedy that is not
          presently one of the proposed alternatives,  if there is a
          possibility that such a remedy might be implemented.

     EPA Response:

          EPA does not anticipate that an off-site disposal or
          landfilling option will be selected, due to high cost and
          potential risk to residents.  However, the Resources Agency
          would have the opportunity to comment again if the preferred
          alternative would be changed to off-site landfilling, since a
          new comment period would be opened.
     Comment:

     99.  The California Department of Fish and Game (the Department)
          stated that it was the Department's policy that no project
          should result in a net loss of either wetland acreage or
          wetland habitat value and stressed that the chosen remedy
          should incorporate measures to offset the loss of wetlands from
          both the initial placement of the interim levee and from any
          loss of wetlands that result from the corrective action.  They
          also stated that compensation should be provided for the loss
          of habitat values incurred since the interim levee was
          constructed.

     EPA Response:

          EPA is actively pursuing an agreement with the City of San Jose
          and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service that will result in
          mitigation for the levee and the remedial cover.  EPA
          recognizes the importance of mitigating the lost wetland area
          and habitat values resulting from the filling activities.
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Comment:

100. The California Department of Fish and Game, referring to the
     asbestos-contaminated nature of the dike and the fact that it
     was constructed without benefit of an Army Corps of Engineers'
     permit or any other public review process, recommended removal
     of the dike and restoration of the impacted site to pre-project
     conditions.  Furthermore, they suggested that compensation for
     the temporary loss of wetland habitat values that has occurred
     since the dike was constructed be developed in consultation
     with the Department and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges the preferred alternative suggestion from the
     Department of Fish and Game and notes that EPA is working with
     the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to create an acceptable
     mitigation scheme.  EPA welcomes California Department of Fish
     and Game's input into this process.
Comment:

101. The California Department of Fish and Game stated that if the
     City of Alviso and/or the County of Santa Clara elects to
     construct a dike composed of nontoxic material, such a project
     should be subject to the same public review criteria as any
     other similar project pursuant to the requirements of the
     California Environmental Quality Act, the National
     Environmental Policy Act, and the Army Corps of Engineers
     Section 404 permit program.

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges that other regulatory processes apply to
     replacement of the ring levee.
Comment:

102. The Regional Water Quality Control Board  (RWQCB) stated that
     since this project (corrective action on  the levee) will result
     in a loss of wetland value, mitigation will be required under
     the Regional Board's Basin Plan.

EPA Response:

     EPA welcomes the  input of the RWQCB  in formulating an
     acceptable mitigation scheme.
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Comment:

103. The RVQCB noted that Section 404 of the Clean Water Act
     requires a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers prior to the
     discharge of fill material to waters of the United States.
     They also stated that under Section 401 of the Clean Water Act,
     the RWQCB must certify that Section 404 permits issued by the
     Corps comply with water quality standards established by the
     State of California.

EPA Response:

     CERCLA §121(e), U.S.C. §9621, provides an exemption from
     permitting processes on Superfund sites;  however,  EPA welcomes
     the RWQCB's input into the remedy process.
Comment:

104. The RWQCB questioned the impacts this project would have on the
     water quality in the New Chicago Marsh and asked that they be
     allowed to review management plans for this area.

EPA Response:

     EPA believes that the ring levee remediation will not affect
     the water quality in the New Chicago Marsh.  EPA will allow the
     RWQCB to review management plans for the area.
Comment:

105. The California Department of Health Services transmitted a list
     of Applicable or Relevant and Appropriate Requirements (ARARs)
     for the South Bay Asbestos Superfund Site to EPA on January 27,
     1988.  In this transmittal, the Department identified the
     California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) as an ARAR for the
     site.  In listing CEQA, the State commented that, "The RI/FS
     will meet the applicable provisions and will be functionally
     equivalent under Sec. 21080.5, so that a separate EIR may not
     be required."

EPA Response:

     EPA has determined that the requirements of CEQA are no more
     stringent than the requirements for environmental review under
     CERCLA, as amended by SARA, and thus, CEQA is not an ARAR for
     this site.  Pursuant to the provisions of CERCLA, the NCP, and
     other Federal requirements, EPA's prescribed procedures for
     evaluation of environmental impacts, selecting a remedial
     action with feasible mitigation measures, and providing for
     public review, are designed to ensure that the proposed action
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provides for the short-term and long-term protection of the
environment and public health and hence perform the same
function as and are substantially parallel to the State's
requirements under CEQA.

EPA will continue to cooperate with the California Department
of Health Services and other State and Federal agencies during
the design phase, to clarify further environmental review and
mitigation requirements for this project and ensure that they
are fulfilled.
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III(D)  COMMENTS MADE BY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES:

     Comment:

     106. Two community members felt that much discussion and little
          effort was being put forth to clean up the site, and they
          worried that the funding available would be spent on studies,
          meetings, and analysis instead of rectifying the problem.
          Specifically, it was mentioned that five years of consistent
          test results and expressions of preference by the community
          should be sufficient to demonstrate the correct course of
          action.  The commenters urged EPA to remove the contamination
          and replace the levee immediately.

     EPA Response:

          CERC1A requires studies to document the problem and, if
          necessary, implementation of remedial action after the studies
          are complete.  EPA is acting as quickly as possible under the
          constraints of the law.
     Comment:

     107. Two community members noted that, as frustration levels in the
          community have increased,  attendance at the community meetings
          and reiteration of community preferences has decreased.

     EPA Response:

          EPA recognizes the level of frustration within the community,
          and feels much of the same frustration caused by the
          requirements of the Superfund system.  EPA appreciates your
          input, your efforts to stay involved, and your attendance at
          this meeting.
     Comment:

     108. Two community members, referring to Alternative 1 (the No
          Action alternative),  stated that this was an unacceptable
          option, because it does not solve the proven health risk
          problem.  They also asked that the present "inaction [at the
          site] be cured."

     EPA Response:

          EPA agrees that the No Action alternative does not solve the
          potential health risk and is therefore not acceptable.  EPA is
          moving forward as quickly as possible to cover the levee; that
          is the reason that the OUFS was prepared, as an effort to
          achieve faster action on the levee.
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Comment:

109. Two community members, referring Co Alternative 3 (the Gunite
     Cover alternative) in the OUFS, stated that this option is not
     advantageous for three reasons:  (1) asbestos fibers would
     still be present, because leakage and cover deterioration would
     allow asbestos to escape from under the cover, which would
     exacerbate structural weakness and lead to further leakage, (2)
     the "ring wall" would attract graffiti, be unsightly, and
     decrease property values, and (3) the lack of vegetative cover
     would present problems for wildlife.

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates the comments regarding the gunite cover.  The
     commencer has identified the reasons why the gunite cover was
     not selected as the preferred alternative by EPA.
Comment:

110. Two community members, referring to Alternative 4 (the
     Soil/Gunite Cover alternative), stated that while this option
     is preferable to a gunite cover alone (Alternative 3), it
     presented the same disadvantages (see above comment) in the
     gunited areas.  They stressed that this was made worse by the
     placement of the gunite areas in the most visible areas of the
     community, thus making this an unacceptable alternative.

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates these comments about the soil-gunite cover
     alternative.  It is true that areas of gunite would present the
     problems identified in the previous comment.  EPA has carefully
     considered the advantages of a soil*gunite cover (primarily
     ease of application) versus those for a soil (only) cover, and
     has rejected the soil-gunite cover in favor of the soil cover.
Comment:

111. Two community members, referring to Alternative 2 (the Soil
     Cover alternative), stated that if the soil cover were
     designed, installed, and planted correctly, and there was no
     wear, this option would be an improvement over the existing
     ring levee.  However, the commenters questioned these
     assumptions.
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EPA Response:
     The comments regarding the soil cover as an improvement over
     the existing levee are appreciated.   It is anticipated that the
     cover design will be implemented properly, and that the City of
     San Jose will maintain the cover through periodic inspection,
     repair, and upkeep.  EPA encourages  the community to let the
     City know the concerns about long-term maintenance.
Comment:

112. Two community members stated that,  while Alternative 5 (the
     Removal and Replacement alternative) was the original option
     requested by the community five years ago, it was not proposed
     at that time due to the risk of exposure to dust during
     removal.  The commenters said that they now feel the exposure
     problem related to short-term risk is no longer relevant (after
     years of low level exposure),  and they would now support this
     option.

EPA Response:

     EPA believes that the principal risk to residents is not
     exposure to the levee as it is weathered by wind and rain, but
     rather exposure during direct mechanical disturbance.  For this
     reason, as well as high cost,  EPA has not recommended the
     removal and replacement option as the preferred alternative.
     However, the input is appreciated and was carefully considered
     in selecting a remedy for the levee.
Comment:

113. Two community members, referring to Alternative 5 (the Removal
     and Replacement alternative),  stated that this would be the
     preferable option if the new ring levee could be constructed
     within the easements and outside of the Wildlife Refuge, if it
     would have the same aesthetic and environmental standards as
     the soil-cover option, and if it was not taller than required
     for basic flood protection.

EPA Response:

     If removal and replacement of the levee were selected as the
     remediation, the replacement levee would be constructed in the
     same area and at the same height as the existing dike.
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Comment:

114. Two community members, referring to Alternative 5 (the Removal
     and Replacement alternative),  noted that this alternative was
     presented by the community and not by EPA, as was stated in the
     OUFS.  They also stated that this option was absent from EPA's
     discussion at the April 28, 1988 community meeting.

EPA Response:

     As discussed in the OUFS, the removal and replacement option
     was not carried through to the detailed screening and analysis
     phase (Chapter 4),  because of the risk during implementation
     and high cost.  EPA did describe this option in the April 28,
     1988 meeting as a PRP-identified alternative.
Comment:

115. One community member asked who had the final authority over the
     asbestos problem in Alviso.

EPA Response:

     EPA has the final authority to select a remedy for the asbestos
     contamination in the South Bay site.
Comment:

116.  One community member asked who would be held accountable for
     past, present, and future impacts to the community and to
     private property including, realty values, construction,
     restraints to property, and removal of hazardous waste from
     private property.

EPA Response:

     EPA has no legal authority to determine who is liable for
     property value impacts.  In the final remedy for the South Bay
     Asbestos area, EPA will address any human health and
     environmental impacts that are caused by the existence of
     hazardous substances and the remedy.  Ultimately, EPA and
     private property owners must look to responsible parties, as
     defined under CERCLA for accountability.
Comment:

117. One community member asked what "long range obligations" EPA
     and the City of San Jose had to the community and  to private
     property owners.
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EPA Response:
     EPA is obligated by Federal law to re-evaluate Superfund sites,
     like Alviso,  where hazardous substances remain on site,  every 5
     years.  EPA cannot answer the question on behalf of the  City of
     San Jose.
Comment:

118. One community member,  referring to Page 1-2 in the OUFS report,
     stated that notable flood water dates should have included the
     1982 Alviso flood from Coyote Creek to the storm drains.

EPA Response:

     EPA appreciates the comment regarding the 1982 flood; this
     information was not included in the OUFS due to an oversight.
Comment:

119. One community member, referring to the "fair market value(s)n
     on Page 4-2 and 4-3 of the OUFS, stated that the figures were
     incorrect with regard to land prices and suggested that they
     did not represent market conditions in the area.

EPA Response:

     The values for land reported in the OUFS were based on assessed
     values reported by the Santa Clara County Assessor's Office,
     and on information obtained on two recent real estate
     transactions from a confidential source.  Based on the real
     estate transactions for improved industrial property, or $7.00
     to $7.25 per square foot, it was assumed that typical property
     values would be three times the assessed value.  It was beyond
     the scope of the OUFS to retain a realtor to investigate
     property prices.  The exact location of the easements needed,
     the property owners, and cost will be determined during the
     final design phase, using a surveying and title company.
Comment::

120. One community member stated that it was the general opinion of
     the community that more attention has been given to fish and
     wildlife than to humans.
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EPA Response:
     EPA does not agree that more attention is given to fish and
     wildlife than to the human residents at the site.  EPA's
     foremost function is to protect human health; it must also
     protect the environment from long-term damage.  EPA has taken
     some important steps to protect Alviso residents, by spraying
     the levee with polymer, removing asbestos-laden dirt, and
     paving parking lots and streets.  Long-term solutions such as
     the levee remedy take longer to implement because of the need
     to investigate their long-term effectiveness and to carefully
     select the remedy that is most appropriate under the law.
Comment:

121. One community member, referring to the source of the asbestos,
     asked what the position of EPA and the City of San Jose was
     concerning mitigating the open pit operations at those sites.

EPA Response:

     EPA is aware of the quarry which supplied the material to build
     the ring levee.  However, because the quarry is not part of the
     Superfund site (does not fall within the boundaries), no action
     is being taken there under CERCLA.  The owner of the quarry,
     however, is negotiating with EPA to determine the extent of
     payment for the soil cover.
Comment:

122. One community member asked who initially discovered and
     reported the asbestos content in the dirt.

EPA Response:

     The California Department of Health Services (DHS) was the
     first to find asbestos in the ring levee, and based on that
     finding, initiated investigations at Alviso.  Waste asbestos
     product (pipe debris) was initially discovered in 1983 at
     Liberty and Moffat Streets at the Guadalupe River levee during
     construction by a Cal-OSHA inspector. The large amounts there
     prompted DHS to sample in other areas of town, including the
     ring levee.
Comment:

123. One community member asked why the City of San Jose  instructed
     a trucking company to haul dirt from a pit that was  known  to
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     have asbestos-laden dirt when pits closer to Alviso have clean
     dirt.
EPA Response:
     It is not known why the City of San Jose selected the Raisch
     quarry as the source of fill dirt.   There is some evidence that
     part of the ring levee may have come from a quarry or
     excavation along Homestead Road,  but this has not been
     confirmed.
Comment:

124. One community member asked why the City of San Jose would allow
     an asbestos laden pit to remain open.

EPA Response:

     The City of San Jose may have no direct jurisdiction over the
     operation of the Raisch quarry, and regulatory agencies have
     not yet found a violation of law at the quarry.
Comment:

125. One community member questioned why the media reported that
     Alviso was one of the most toxic sites in California,  due to
     the asbestos-laden levee,  when it would appear that the pit
     where the levee dirt came  from would be more toxic because it
     is worked daily by heavy equipment causing constant airborne
     releases.

EPA Response:

     The media reported the decision by DHS to list the site on the
     State Superfund list, because of the State's concern that the
     people living very near the levee and using the levee were
     potentially at risk. The quarry, however, operates in an
     industrial area with a much lesser chance for human exposure.
Comment:

126. One community member asked why the City of San Jose had not
     removed the dirt when they initially discovered it was laden
     with asbestos.

EPA Response:

     EPA can not answer this question on behalf of the City of San
     Jose.
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Comment:

127. One community member asked why money was being spent on project
     managers and community relations coordinators instead of on
     education for illiterates who may be using the levee but are
     unaware of the dangers.

EPA Response:

     EPA is attempting to inform everyone who may come in contact
     with the levee about the levee's dangers, as required by
     CERCIA.  EPA staff costs are minor compared to the cost of the
     investigation and possible remedial action.
Comment:

128.  One community member asked whether asbestos is present in much
     of the dirt in the [Santa Clara] Valley and on the [San
     Francisco] Peninsula.

EPA Response:

     EPA does not know at this time.


Comment:

129.  One community member asked whether trucks were hauling
     asbestos-laden dirt from a future freeway site in San Jose,
     without tarps, to the pit that provided dirt for the Alviso
     ring levee.

EPA Response:

     EPA does not know that this time.
Comment:

130. One community member stated that the "community meetings and
     newsletters seem like some kind of a smoke screen to cover up
     what is really going on."
EPA Response:

     Community meetings and newsletters are not a  "smoke screen."
     They are EPA's procedures, as set out in the  NCP,  for keeping a
     community informed about what is going on, and  for getting  the
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     communities input into the contamination study and remedy
     selection process.
Comment:

131. One community member asked if the easements obtained during
     initial levee construction are still in effect for clean-up
     activities.  The commenter also wondered why these easements
     are so expensive.

EPA Response:

     The City of San Jose obtained the construction easements for
     the ring levee.  San Jose has not yet told EPA whether the
     easements are still effective.  The price of an easement is
     set by the property owner and fair market value.
Comment:

132. One community member asked if EPA would have the authority to
     enter the levee if it needed an emergency repair or if there
     was another major flood,  and if so, whether EPA could enter the
     levee to secure "environmental protection" now that there is a
     known health problem at this site.

EPA Response:

     EPA has the authority, pursuant to CERCLA, to repair the levee
     if a release or threatened release of hazardous substances were
     to re-occur.
Comment:

133. One community member, referring to a statement that EPA has no
     authority or power to do anything by itself, wondered if he
     brought home a Uranium 222 fuel rod, would the EPA have it
     removed.

EPA Response:

     EPA does have the authority to clean up releases or threatened
     releases of hazardous substances to the environment, pursuant
     to CERCLA, without the assistance of local or state agencies.
     If you brought home uranium, EPA would have the power to remove
     it if EPA determined that the situation would constitute an
     actual or threatened release of a hazardous substance.
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Comment:

134. One community member asked that medical studies be done in the
     area and asked to whom this request should be directed.

EPA Response:

     Medical studies would be conducted, if necessary,  by the State
     Department of Health Services or the Santa Clara County Health
     Department.  Those agencies should be contacted about
     performing such studies.
Comment:

135. One community member asked if there was evidence of any other
     problems in this area.

EPA Response:

     EPA's site studies have not uncovered any other problems on
     site, such as hazardous or toxic wastes.  The Alviso Oil
     Company has been contacted by EPA to investigate possible
     operating violations, including leaks.  There is also the
     possibility that underground fuel tanks, if present in the
     community, could present a problem if leaks were to occur.
     However, this is true of any urban area, and investigation of
     fuel storage facilities was outside the scope of the asbestos
     study.
Comment:

136. One community member, referring to the dust control problem
     from the trucking lots, asked if oil would be  preferable to
     water as a dust control measure.

EPA Response:

     Oil would not be an acceptable method of dust control, since
     the components in oil are toxic to humans and the environment.
     The oil could eventually migrate through the truck lots and
     contaminate the marsh area.
Comment:

137. One community member, referring to the dust control problem
     from the trucking lots, asked if it was possible to legally
     require truck yards to pave their lots.
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EPA Response:
     It Is possible to require the truck lot owners to pave their
     lots under CERCLA regulation.  EPA is currently investigating
     available methods to have the lots paved.
Comment:

138. One community member asked that EPA contact the owner of the
     land park and the person who owns property directly in front of
     the Summerset Mobile Home Park to gain access to their property
     to test for asbestos.

EPA Response:

     Several soil samples were collected in Summerset Mobile Home
     Park and analyzed for asbestos.  Of approximately eighteen
     samples collected, ten contained no detectable asbestos, six
     contained 1 to 2 percent asbestos, one contained 3 percent
     asbestos, and one had greater than 10 percent asbestos.  EPA
     believes that the trailer park area has been sampled
     sufficiently to show very limited asbestos contamination.  The
     area between Gold Street and the trailer park is owned by the
     State of California, and access for sampling was not granted,
     since a fee was required for access which EPA did not pay.
     During actual site clean-up for the overall site, several
     samples will be collected in previously unsampled areas to
     determine the necessity for clean-up.
Comment:

139. One community member, referring to the yellow asbestos warning
     flags in the front driveway at the Summerset Mobile Home Park,
     asked when they were put there and what was being tested.

EPA Response:

     EPA has no direct knowledge of the yellow flagging in front of
     the trailer park, but assumes that it was placed there by the
     Santa Clara Valley Water District during the raising of the
     Gold Street Bridge.
Comment:

140. One community member asked what erosion problems might EPA
     foresee if soil cover was the chosen alternative.
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EPA Response:
     Soil erosion is a potential problem for uncovered soil slopes.
     EPA would establish a vegetable cover using native,  erosion-
     resistant plant species to inhibit erosion.  A sprinkler system
     would be installed to ensure that the vegetation could become
     well-established.
Comment :
     One community member wondered whether soil cover had been used
     elsewhere in a similar situation.
EPA Response:
     Soil cover is a common solution to contamination problems
     requiring control other than excavation.  Soil is commonly
     installed over solid waste landfills when the landfill is no
     longer in use.
Comment:

142. One community member asked why the clean-up is taking so long.
     The commenter also asked why the soil was still being tested
     when the OUFS states that a "numeric risk characterization is
     not necessary for EPA to proceed with clean-up actions at this
     site."

EPA Response:

     The soil samples that have been collected were part of the
     overall RI/FS and not part of the Operable Unit. EPA
     acknowledges that the clean-up is taking a long time, but the
     Agency is doing everything as quickly as possible under the
     constraints of the law.
Comment:

143. One community member asked how bad was the asbestos situation.

EPA Response:

     The RI/FS will address the entire asbestos situation and will
     be released for review and comment in October, 1988.
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Comment:

144. One community member,  who supports the EPA levee asbestos
     removal project, urged that this go forward expeditiously,  and
     added that, in his opinion procrastination has,  thus far,
     hindered resolving the problem.

EPA Response:

     EPA acknowledges this  comment.


Comment:

145. One community member asked that the asbestos clean-up effort
     include "making the levee less  obtrusive and hideous".

EPA Response:

     EPA intends to design a cover for the asbestos materials that
     has the least effect possible on the community.
Comment:

146. One community member asked that the asbestos-contaminated fill
     be removed and replaced by clean fill in order to form a new
     levee.

EPA Response:

     Please see the response to comment 112.


Comment:

147. One community member asked that the "new levee" be landscaped
     with trees and other greenery, with scenic walking trails, rest
     areas,  and proper paving and drainage in order to prevent mud
     run-off during the rainy season.  This commenter believes that
     these improvements will screen the obtrusion of the levees and
     provide an opportunity for Alviso and other South Bay residents
     to enjoy the unique characteristics of the community.

EPA Response:

     EPA's powers under CERCLA allow it to eliminate or mitigate
     releases and threatened releases of hazardous substances  into
     the environment.  The Raisch Company and the City of San  Jose,
     as PRPs, should be contacted for further action regarding the
     aesthetics of the area.
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III(E)  COMMENTS MADE AT THE APRIL 28, 1988 PUBLIC MEETING

The comments and the bracketed responses, below, are consistent with the
discussions from the April 28, 1988 public meeting.  However, some
aspects of remedial activities at the site have changed since April 28,
1988.  For example, EPA's preferred alternative is no longer the
soil/gunite cover (as reflected in discussions during the meeting);  the
preferred alternative is now the soil (only) cover.  Furthermore, EPA no
longer considers a RCRA Class C landfill necessary for disposal of the
levee (if the Removal and Disposal alternative is eventually chosen).
Therefore, additional responses were added to augment the original
responses and/or to clarify EPA's position.  These additions are the
unbracketed EPA responses provided below.
     Comment:

     148. One community member questioned whether the five clean-up
          alternatives were the choice of EPA or of the community.

     EPA Response:

          [The five clean-up alternatives, presented in the Engineering
          Evaluation/Cost Analysis, were chosen by EPA because they were
          found to be protective of public health and the environment,
          technically feasible, and cost-effective.  The purpose of the
          public comment period, including the public meeting, is to give
          community members the opportunity to comment on these clean-up
          alternatives.  Ultimately, EPA selects a remedial alternative
          based on several criteria, including community acceptance.]
     Comment:

     149. One community member stated that the $24,000 value placed on a
          home in Alviso in EPA's study was inaccurate.

     EPA Response:

          The property values reported in Appendix F of the OUFS were
          based on readily accessible records at the Santa Clara County
          Assessor's office.  A more complete title search and property
          appraisal will be performed during the design phase of the
          project.
     Comment:

     ISO. One community member asked who is responsible  for  the asbestos
          in portions of  the ring levee that are on private  property.
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EPA Response:
     [EPA is responsible for controlling asbestos on the ring levee,
     including portions that are privately owned.]   However,  the
     final responsibility for asbestos remediation rests with the
     owner of the ring levee and the owner(s)  of the property on
     which the levee is located.
Comment:

151. One community member asserted that asbestos contributes to the
     devaluation of property value and questioned who should be
     accountable for the devaluation.

EPA Response:

     [EPA will control the asbestos in those portions of the ring
     levee which are on private property.]   EPA is not responsible
     for devaluation of private property.   This is an issue that
     must be decided by the court.
Comment:

152. One community member asked, in the event that EPA seals the
     asbestos on private property,  whether or not he could: (a)
     break the seal; and (b) if so, would he be held liable for
     asbestos which became airborne as a result.

EPA Response:

     [Property owners would be held responsible, if, after breaking
     the seal, asbestos became airborne.]
Comment:

153. One commenter stated that EPA had entered his property without
     his permission.  The commenter added that it was the general
     opinion of the community in Alviso that EPA should remove the
     ring levee, because the community is not responsible for having
     placed the asbestos there.

EPA Response:

     EPA attempted to obtain either written or verbal permission
     from all property owners prior to conducting activities during
     the RI/FS investigations.  Documentation of these attempts can
     be found in the Administrative Record for this site.
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     [While EPA acknowledges that the property owners did not place
     the asbestos in the ring levee, property owners who have
     portions of the ring levee on their property (and for which EPA
     will be seeking easements) are responsible for the asbestos on
     their property.  They may not, however, be the only responsible
     party.]
Comment:

154. One commentsr, who has hauled truckloads of soil out of the
     Raisch Quarry (from which the material used in the Alviso ring
     levee was drawn) to areas throughout the Santa Clara Valley,
     questioned why EPA was focusing on Alviso and not on other
     communities as well.

EPA Response:

     [EPA is aware of the asbestos in Alviso, but not elsewhere.]
     Under the Superfund program, Alviso is located within the
     boundaries of a specific study area, and remedial activities
     are authorized only within those formal boundaries because of
     concern for the health of Alviso residents.  EPA is currently
     investigating other areas of asbestos in the region, and is
     working toward developing regulations for control of the use of
     asbestos-bearing rock.
Comment:

155. This commenter (see comment 154) offered to show EPA where the
     asbestos can be found in other parts of the Valley.

EPA Response:

     This comment is acknowledged.


Comment:

156. One community member asked if EPA would expand the site
     location if it had a map of where the other soils from the
     Raisch quarry had been disposed.

EPA Response:

     [EPA would ask the State, City, or County  to  investigate  the
     sites where soil from the Raisch Quarry was disposed and  assess
     whether EPA involvement was necessary.]
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Comment:

157. One community member asked for a verbal description of the
     location of the quarry.

EPA Response:

     [The Raisch Quarry is off Old Monterey Road,  near the
     fairgrounds, and part of Communication Hill.]  After the
     meeting, EPA sent this person a map depicting the location.
Comment:

158. One community member asked how the gunite cover would increase
     the flood control function and erosion resistance to the levee
     when it would only be two inches higher than the soil cover.

EPA Response:

     [The gunite cover would not resist a flood that was of a higher
     elevation than the existing ring levee, however, the gunite
     material is more resistant to erosion.]
Comment:

159. One community member asked what type of water flow EPA
     anticipated coming in across the flatlands of lower Santa Clara
     Valley.

EPA Response:

     [EPA would anticipate a sheet flow or a tidal flow but not a
     river.  There are points on the ring levee (the corners or
     bends) which are more susceptible to erosion and these points
     would need to be reinforced with gunite as opposed to soil.
     For example, during the 1983 flood, the water depth was
     probably higher than the ring levee, and if gunite had been in
     place, it may have prevented erosion or washing as the water
     rose and washed over the levee.]  However, EPA's preferred
     alternative is the soil (only) cover, and EPA expects this
     cover to be sufficiently resistant to erosion.  It must be
     stressed, however, that EPA's responsibility is the remediation
     of asbestos, not flood control.
Comment:

160. One community member commented that if water washes over  the
     levee, erosion damage would be irrelevant.  The commenter also
     wondered where the gunite would be installed, and added that
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     the gunite was not much of an improvement over soil.   This
     commenter felt that most people would vote for soil cover
     instead of the gunite/soil combination,  because it would only
     result in a $7,000 savings.
EPA Response:
     [EPA would like to use soil for as much of the cover as it
     could, however, there are constraints with certain portions of
     the ring levee that make it difficult to use a soil cover.  In
     some areas large earth movers would have difficulty gaining
     access and gunite may have to be used in these areas, although
     public comment could change this.]
Comment:

161. One community member, referring to the places on the map that
     may have gunite covers, stated that there is plenty of room to
     work there.   The commenter also stated that the flood waters in
     1983 were lower than the walls of the ring levee and, had it
     been in place, the ring levee would have provided sufficient
     protection.   The commenter felt that hydrology in the area
     should be closely studied, because flood waters might contain
     an energy source so strong that gunite would not prove
     effective.

EPA Response:

     EPA has reconsidered the use of gunite, and now feels that a
     100 percent soil cover would be more advantageous.  Although
     the issue of flood control is important, EPA's responsibility
     is the remediation of asbestos, not flood control.
Comment:

162. One community member asked whether part of the Raisch quarry is
     now a mobile home court, and if so, why action has not been
     undertaken there.

EPA Response:

     [EPA will check  into this issue.]  There are mobile home parks
     in the area and  one adjacent to the quarry.  However, there is
     no mobile home park on the Raisch quarry.
Comment:

163. One community member asked why it was taking so  long  for EPA to
     complete  the ring  levee.
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EPA Response:
     [The Federal Superfund process mandates that EPA follow
     specific requirements.  These requirements,  often cumbersome
     and time-consuming,  were designed to ensure  that the right
     decision is made for all persons affected by a Superfund site.
     These requirements include preparation of studies and analyses,
     coordination with other agencies, and public comment periods.]
Comment:

164. One community member asked why the asbestos could not simply be
     dug up and taken away.

EPA Response:

     [The cost of digging the asbestos up and having it disposed of
     in a commercial hazardous waste landfill would be approximately
     $9 to $10 million.  This cost is prohibitively expensive.]
     Although a certified RCRA hazardous waste landfill is no longer
     considered necessary for this alternative, there are equally
     effective remedies, such as the soil cover, which are less
     expensive to implement.  Therefore, removal and disposal was
     screened out as an option for EPA.  However, EPA may allow the
     PRPs to remove the levee if they agree to do it at their cost
     and in accordance with an EPA approved plan.
Comment:

165. One community member stated that Alviso did not have any
     problems with floods before the ring levee was built.

EPA Response:

     [The record in Alviso shows that flooding has occurred since
     1777.]
Comment:

166. Various community members questioned when floods had occurred
     in the past and from where these flood waters originated.

EPA Response:

     [The specific years that the town of Alviso was flooded  is
     beyond the scope of this project.  EPA is not trying to  rebuild
     the levee to alleviate potential flooding, it is concerned
     with eliminating or reducing the risk of asbestos exposure,
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     part of which is the result of the asbestos that is contained
     in the material in the ring levee.]
Comment:

167. One community member asked if medical studies had been done in
     this area.

EPA Response:

     [To EPA's knowledge, no medical studies, relating to asbestos,
     have been undertaken in the Alviso area.1
Comment:

168. Many community members questioned what EPA had done to date
     regarding asbestos dust from the truck yards.  Many commenters
     added that this problem directly affects the community on a
     daily basis and should be taken care of promptly.

EPA Response:

     [EPA collected samples from the various truck yards along State
     Street.  However, these samples had to be re-analyzed twice,
     because asbestos is very difficult to measure accurately in
     soil.  Last month when the asbestos contamination was
     positively identified, letters were sent out to all of the
     truck yard owners specifying the asbestos concentrations in the
     soil and suggesting that they water down their yards
     periodically.  This is the next area targeted for action in
     Alviso.]
Comment:

169. One community member asked if there was something the
     community could do to help control the asbestos dust in the
     air.

EPA Response:

     [Community residents along State Street could hose down the
     dust outside of their homes.]
Comment:

170. One community member, referring to residents along State
     Street being asked to hose down the dust outside of their
     houses, replied that there is presently a water shortage.
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EPA Response:
     EPA acknowledges this comment and urges water conservation at
     this time.
Comment:

171. One community member stated that holding the dust down should
     not be a big problem.

EPA Response:

     EPA is considering dust suppression techniques for the roads.


Comment:

172. One community member asked that EPA do something about the
     dust problem while keeping the community informed of the
     situation.

EPA Response:

     See the response to comment 171.  EPA will keep the community
     informed.
Comment:

173. One community member stated that if the asbestos dust problem
     in the truck yards were serious, EPA could do something to
     alleviate the situation, including supplying water to the truck
     yards.

EPA Response:

     EPA is planning action at the truck yards.


Comment:

174. One community member asked if soil samples had been taken from
     the truck yards and from nearby homes.

EPA Response:

     [Samples have been taken from these truck yards and homes.]
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Comment:

175. One community member asked if the dust blowing off the ring
     levee is the source of the asbestos contamination.

EPA Response:

     [The dust blowing off the ring levee is part of the asbestos
     contamination problem.]
Comment:

176. One community member asked if water were used to keep the dust
     down and it subsequently washed down the drain, wouldn't the
     asbestos inhalation problem be eliminated.  The commenter also
     asked if EPA had the funds to water down the asbestos dust and
     stressed the need to control immediately the asbestos dust,
     because it is the source of the inhaled asbestos
     contamination.

EPA Response:

     [The assumptions that asbestos dust is the source of the
     inhaled asbestos contamination, and that the asbestos
     inhalation problem could be eliminated if the asbestos were
     watered and washed down the drain, are correct.  However, if
     this occurred, the asbestos would turn up elsewhere and could
     cause a potential health risk.]
NOTE:
     In regard to the many questions raised about dust control in
     the community, it is important to note that airborne dust not
     containing hazardous substances is not regulated under CERCLA.
     It is the potential for asbestos in the dust that is of
     concern.  Under the Superfund process, EPA must demonstrate
     that the asbestos in dust is a potential health risk, then
     determine the best means for control.  If the airborne asbestos
     poses a risk above background, then EPA can take action to
     control the problem.  The risk from airborne asbestos is
     currently being determined in the RI/FS study which will be
     released later in 1988.  Public comment is encouraged on the
     RI/FS, once it is released.
Comment:

177. One community member, referring to the fact that EPA stopped
     the City of San Jose from street sweeping because of the amount
     of dust it was generating, asked how this risk compares to  the
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     risk posed by trucks and cars driving up and down the street,
     or leaving the dust on the street.
EPA Response:
     [The exposure from the dust generated by cars and trucks is
     equally as dangerous as that generated by the street sweepers.
     It is also dangerous to leave the dust sitting on the street.
     Short term remedies for dealing with this problem are still
     being investigated.]  EPA has verbally recommended a wet-vacuum
     process to the San Jose Neighborhood Maintenance Division.
Comment:

178. One community member asked if it is worse to leave the dust on
     the streets and to allow cars to generate the asbestos dust, or
     to have the street sweepers generate the asbestos dust.

EPA Response:

     [EPA originally believed that the majority of the asbestos that
     was in the road along State Street, Spreckles Avenue, and Grand
     Boulevard was being washed off the ring levee and onto the
     streets.  However, dust carried by trucks onto the streets may
     pose significant risks as well.  At this time the best short
     term solution appears to be keeping the street sweepers out
     until the levee can be covered permanently.]
Comment:

179. One community member asked if the street sweepers could now
     return.

EPA Response:

     [The risks and benefits associated with the return of the
     street sweepers will have to be studied before a decision is
     made to allow the street sweepers back into the area.]  EPA
     will recommend to the San Jose Neighborhood Maintenance
     Division that they use a self-contained recirculating air
     sweeper to clean the streets.  Several local contractors, such
     as Celtics Sweepers, own such sweeper trucks.   The truck uses a
     water spray and does not exhaust the air, to control asbestos
     emissions to the air.
Comment:

180. One community member asked if watering the truck yards would be
     more of a hazard than the dust, because mud would be
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     transported and re-distributed on the wheels of buses and
     trucks.
EPA Response:
     Problems such as this could occur.  EPA recommends paying the
     truck yards.
Comment:

181. One community member asked what the definition and role of EPA
     is in the context of the asbestos dust problem.

EPA Response:

     Although an EPA representative stated at the community meeting
     that EPA "might not have authority to exercise control over
     asbestos dust within the town of Alviso," CERCLA gives EPA
     authority to act when there is a release or a threatened
     release of a hazardous substance (CERCLA §104, 42 U.S.C.
     §9604).
Comment:

182. One community member asked if all dust (regardless of whether
     it contains asbestos) in the air is hazardous to ones health.

EPA Response:

     [All dust may be hazardous.  However, Superfund must work
     within certain constraints, and these constraints do not allow
     dealing with dust that does not contain hazardous substances.]
Comment:

183. One community member asked if EPA's presence in the community
     implies that they will be responsible for some type of clean-up
     action.

EPA Response:

     [When the study is finished, it will be decided if clean-up
     action by EPA is warranted in the area with respect to
     asbestos.]
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Comment:

184. One community member stated that community members should have
     input into the study.   The commenter also asked what progress
     had been made at the site since EPA became involved.

EPA Response:

     Since late 1985, [when EPA became involved in the site,  the
     ring levee was sealed, the study was finalized, the extended
     part of Spreckles Avenue was paved, the lot behind George Mayne
     School was paved, and the Environmental Education Center was
     paved.]
Comment:

185. Two community members asked for an explanation as to the
     purpose of community meetings.

EPA Response:

     [The purpose of community meetings is to keep interested
     community members informed of site activities, and to find out
     what the community concerns are.  In addition, formal comment
     periods provide a forum for EPA to receive comments.
     (Community meetings are held during these formal comment
     periods.)]
Comment:

186. One community member asked if EPA is concerned about the
     community's health, and if so what about the blowing dust
     problem.

EPA Response:

     [EPA is concerned with the health of the community.
     Unfortunately, the Federal laws in question do not give EPA the
     authority to deal with dust in and of itself.  However, the
     City of San Jose and the County of Santa Clara have the
     authority to pass local ordinances to control dust.  The
     community could petition the City of San Jose to pass an
     ordinance to restrict the amount of dust on the truck yards,
     regardless of the asbestos levels.]
Comment:

187. One community member asked what authority EPA had  to  stop  the
     street sweeping.
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EPA Response:
     [EPA provided the City of San Jose with the data collected and
     asked that street sweeping be stopped.]
Comment:

188. One community member commented that the City of San Jose
     probably complied with this request because it did not cost any
     money, not because of the health implications.

EPA Response:

     [The net result was that the street sweeping was stopped,
     because it was believed that this would be beneficial to the
     people in Alviso.]
Comment:

189. One community member asked if the asbestos in the dust was the
     initial concern that led to cessation of the street sweeping.
     The commenter also asked if the study results have indicated
     that the asbestos contamination in the street dust warrants
     action to keep it down.

EPA Response:

     [This determination can only be made after long-term study
     results are examined.  These results should be completed in
     September.  At that time it will be determined if the
     contamination in total (i.e., street dust in combination with
     other asbestos sources around town) warrants taking further
     action (other than what is presently being proposed on the ring
     levee).]
Comment:

190. One community member asked if the community would continue to
     breathe dust in the interim months before the study results are
     completed.

EPA Response:

     [Until the study results are completed, EPA cannot initiate
     overall remedial action at the site to correct the asbestos
     problem.]
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Comment:

191. One community member asked if there was a way to "wet sweep"
     the asbestos dust.   The commenter also questioned if the
     asbestos dust truly created a hazardous material concern,  since
     this fact had not yet been concluded.

EPA Response:

     EPA is considering various dust control technologies.  EPA
     believes that the asbestos dust creates a potential threat to
     human health.
Comment:

192.  One community member asked what liability might be faced if the
     City of San Jose were asked to reinstate street sweeping in the
     affected areas.

EPA Response:

     [The incremental liability cannot be determined at this time.]


Comment:

193.  One community member, referring to the above response, asked if
     this also meant that nothing would be done on the ring levee
     until the September study comes out.

EPA Response:

     [Funds are in place for an interim remedy at the ring levee.
     The primary purpose of this community meeting is to solicit
     comments on the proposed interim remedies on the ring levee
     which will be in effect until an overall solution is
     developed.]
Comment:

194. One community member stated that, while EPA's efforts were
     appreciated, many community members were frustrated due to the
     lack of accountability and participation by the City of San
     Jose.  This commenter encouraged EPA to beautify (rather than
     to use gunite) the ring levee, as it is already an
     environmentally sensitive area.  The commenter also asked what
     environmental impacts were associated with polymers.
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EPA Response:
     [EPA thanks this commenter for expressing his appreciation of
     EPA's efforts at this site and adds that the polymers which
     were selected for the ring levee are non-toxic.]   Due to public
     comments and input from other agencies,  gunite will not be a
     part of the remedial design.
Comment:

195. One community member, referring to the ring levee,  asked if
     gunite covered with earth was one of the proposed remedies.

EPA Response:

     [Gunite with earth on top was not one of the proposed remedies
     Previously, a fabric liner over the existing ring levee with
     soil on top was considered.  However, the study showed that a
     larger soil cover was a better solution to the problem than
     putting a fabric cap on with little soil cover.]
Comment:

196. One community member asked if there was a synthetic fabric
     with a long lifetime that could be put on the ring levee.

EPA Response:

     [There are synthetic fabrics that would last a long time.
     However, it would be difficult to assure that the soil would
     adhere to them.]
Comment:

197. One community member stated that the [Santa Clara Valley]
     Water District uses fabric or soil stability and erosion
     control where extreme hydraulic problems exist, and added that
     the water flow is vertical and not horizontal like stream
     flow.

EPA Response:

     [A synthetic cover could be used if EPA could be assured that
     the community would not use the levee.  However, the community
     has requested that they be allowed public access to the levee
     for hiking, walking pets, etc.  For this and other reasons
     explained in the OUFS, EPA feels that the best remedy will be a
     much larger soil cover.]
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             APPENDIX A
Written Comments Submitted During the




        Public Cement Period




               and the




  Question and Answer Period of the




    April 28, 1988 Public Meeting

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                         Index of Submitted Comments
1.   Comments Submitted by The Raisch Company (Letter from Keith Howard,
     Tinning & DeLap, Attorneys at Law, dated May 24, 1988)

2.   Comments Submitted by the City of San Jose (Letter from Michelle Yesney,
     Director, Office of Environmental Management, dated May 25, 1988)

3.   Comments Submitted by State and Federal Government Agencies

     •    Comments Submitted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Letter
          from James J. McKevitt, Field Supervisor,, dated May 10, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by the Resources Agency of California (Letter
          from Gordon F. Snow, Assistant Secretary for Resources, dated May
          25, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by the California Department of Fish and Game
          (Letter from Pete Bontadelli, Director, dated May 25, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by the Regional Water Quality Control Board
          (Letter from Steven G. Eberl, Water Resource Control Engineer,  dated
          May 13, 1988)

4.   Comments Submitted by Other Interested Parties

    . •    Comments Submitted by Craig Parada and Sharon Rice, Alviso Residents
          (Letter dated May 25, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by Robert W. Gross, The Mudflat Refuge (Letter
          dated April 28, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by Brenda Monroe, Alviso Resident (Letter dated
          May 2. 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by Diane K. Hein, Alviso Resident (Letter dated
          May 4, 1988)

     •    Comments Submitted by Roy Jimenez, Family Health Foundation of
          Alviso, Inc. (Letter dated May 25, 1988)

5.   Question and Answer Period of the April 28, 1988 Public Meeting (Pages 30
     through 66 of the Meeting Transcript)

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Comments Submitted by
 The Raisch Company

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      HAND DELIVERED  5/25/88
      Nancy Woo
      Remedial Project Manager
      U.S.  Environmental Protection Agency
      215 Fremont Street
      San Francisco, CA  94105

      Dear  Ms. Woo:

           This letter, together with its attachments,  constitutes
      the comments of The Raisch Company to  the Operable  Unit
      Feasibility Study (OUFS), South Bay Asbestos  Site,  Interim
      Ring  Levee, Alviso, California * April,  1988.

           The Raisch Company has been named a potentially  respon-
      sible party by EPA in connection with  the above referenced
      site.  Raisch wishes to express its strong objection  to  the
      inadequate time allowed to prepare and submit comments to the
      OUFS.  The above site has been on a national priorities  list
      since 1984.  EPA first contacted a potentially responsible
      party with respect to the ring levee in  1985  (the City of San
      Jose).  Despite EPA having full knowledge of the  source  of
      the material used to construct the ring  levee, it was not
      until the end of February, 1988, that  EPA notified  The Raisch
      Company that it was a potentially responsible party.  The
      failure of EPA to notify The Raisch Company at an earlier
      date  has prevented and prohibited the company from
      participating in the extensive studies,  investigations,  and
      other activities that have led to the issuance of the above
      referenced OUFS.  It is apparent that the OUFS took months,
      if  not years, to prepare.  It references almost a hundred
      studies relied on in its preparation.  To allow a response
      period of less than six weeks is not only inadequate, but it
      appears as an attempt by the Environmental Protection Agency
      to  prohibit The Raisch Company from creating an adequate
      administrative record to defend against  future EPA  actions
      regarding this site.   The OUFS relies extensively on
      technical experts in connection with air monitoring, risk
      assessments, and the like.  The conclusions as to appropriate
      remedial actions rely heavily on these technical aspects of
      the report.   In order to adequately comment on the  report, it

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                    TINNING s. DELAP
 Nancy Woo
 May 24, 1988
 Page 2
 is necessary for the responsible parties to have adequate
 time to retain their own technical experts to review and
 comment on the studies relied  on by the authors of the OUFS.
 The short time allowed for  comment combined with EPA's delay
 in including Raisch Company as a potentially responsible
 party practically prohibits the use of outside consultants
 and technical experts in connection with a review of the OUFS
 and its supporting documentation.

•      The failure to allow adequate time to create an
 administrative record and submit appropriate comments to the
 OUFS is particularly pertinent in this case since EPA has
 made it clear that they intend the remedial action selected
 in the OUFS process to be the  permanent solution for the ring
 levee.  The Remedial Investigation Feasibility Study (RIFS)
 which is ongoing for the Alviso South Bay Asbestos Site will
 already have been prejudged by the remedial action selected
 in the OUFS process.

      It is Raisch's strong  belief  that the inadequate time
 allowed to respond to the OUFS in  this particular matter
 constitutes a violation of  Section 113K(2)(B)(ii) of the
 Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation,  Liability
 Act of 1980 as amended by the  Superfund Amendments and
 Reauthorization Act of 1986 requiring that EPA allow
 participants in a CERCLA site  "a reasonable opportunity to
 comment and provide information regarding the plan", and
 further constitutes a violation of Section 113K(2)(D) which
 mandates that EPA "shall make  reasonable efforts to  identify
 and notify potentially responsible parties as early  as
 possible before selection of a response action*.

      Additional comments on the OUFS are attached to this
 letter.

                          Very  truly yours,

                          TINNING & D
KH/ras

Enclosures

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                     ASBESTOS  HEALTH  RISKS
      The  text  of  the  OUFS  makes  no  mention  of  the  different
 types of  asbestos existing in  the environment  nor  does  the
 text  make any  distinction  regarding  the  health hazards  of one
 type  of asbestos  versus  another.

      The  term  asbestos is  a broad categorization of various
 fibrous inorganic materials.   There  are  distinct chemical and
 structural differences between the  two asbestiform groups:
 serpentine and amphibole minerals.

      There are a  multitude of  studies of the asbestiform
 varieties.  Generally these studies  conclude that  the
 amphibole group (crocidolite,  amosite, termolite-actinolite,
 and anphrophylite)  is quite potent  and pose substantial
 health risks.   There  is uncontrovertible evidence  that  the
 serpentine group  (chrysotile)  is far less hazardous than the
 amphiboles and that its production and use can and is being
 successfully regulated.

      Serpentine formations (the source of the  rock in the
 Alviso ring levee) are widespread throughout California and
 Santa Clara County and, in fact, serpentine rock is the
 "state rock".   Attached hereto and incorporated herein  by
 reference are  a number of  articles and reports  (Asbestos
Health Risks Exhibits 	L_ through 	g__)  discussing the
differences between chrysotile asbestos  and the amphibole
 types discussed above.

     The  conclusion can be  drawn from the attached reports
that  the  concentrations of  chrysotile asbestos  found in the
air in Alviso  does not constitute a significant health  risk.

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                         AIR MONITORING
      The  OUFS states  that  the  risk  from asbestos  is  due  to
 inhalation of fibers  from  the  air  (OUFS Section 1-19).   The
 air  monitoring of asbestos  fibers  in  Alviso  done  to  date is
 inadequate to support any  remedial  action  for  the ring levee.

      Air  monitoring was  first  conducted by Woodward  Clyde on
 behalf  of the City of San  Jose prior  to the  use of any
 chemical  suppressant  on  the  levee.  (OUFS,  1-19; copy of
 Woodward  Clyde report attached as Air Monitoring  Exhibit 1)
 The  sampling  consisted of  only six  days.   The  OUFS points out
 that optical  microscopy  analysis of the samples showed that
 in all  six upwind/downwind  sample pairs that the  downwind
 concentrations were less or  equal  to  the concentrations
 upwind  of the dike. (OUFS,  1-21)  Furthermore, the sampling
 did  not take  into account  what type of  asbestos fibers were
 found in  the  air.  The asbestos in  the  levee is chrysotile, a
 naturally occurring asbestos.  The  town of Alviso has been
 identified as a Federal  Superfund site  because of the levee
 and  because of the deposit of  other types  of asbestos bearing
 material  in the town  itself.   As set  forth in  the conclusion
 of the  Woodward Clyde report,  the testing  they undertook
 failed  to distinguish and/or isolate  asbestos  originating
 from other activities in Alviso from  naturally occurring
 asbestos  in the ring  levee.  No effort  was made in the
 Woodward  Clyde sampling  to distinguish  air borne  asbestos
 originating from man-caused  activities  and asbestos
 originating from naturally occurring  asbestos  in  the ring
 levee.  Extensive testing undertaken  by the  California Air
 Resources Board (ARB)  to determine  ambient concentration of
 asbestos  throughout California demonstrates  the feasibility
 of distinguishing  between  the  different types of  asbestos
 fibers.   (California  Air Resources  Board Final Report -
 Ambient Asbestos Concentrations in  California, Volumes I  and
 II prepared by Science Applications,  Inc., December 1983)
 (OUFS,  1-26;  copy attached as  Air Monitoring Exhibit 2)

     In connection with the California  Department  of Health
 Services  "worst case"  testing  done  in June of 1985, no
 control test  was conducted.  Because  serpentine rock is
California's  most  prevalent  rock (serpentine rock  is the  type
 used to construct  the  levee  and contains naturally occurring
 asbestos)  and,  in  fact, is the California  state rock, it  is
very likely that had  the same  tests conducted by  DBS been
 conducted  on  any exposed serpentine rock anywhere  in
California  that  similar results would have been obtained.

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EPA and not included in  the OUFS  is  referred  to  in EPA's
"supplemental sheet" dated April  28, 1988,  entitled "Operable
Unit Feasibility Study,  South Bay Asbestos  Area  Superfund
Site, Alviso, California"  (copy attached as Air  Monitoring
Exhibit 3).  This document indicates the following with
respect to the most recent air monitoring:

          "Based on air  monitoring data, there are low levels
     of asbestos prssent in the atmosphere  throughout the
     community.  This is not uncommon in many urban environ-
     ments.  Although the asbestos levels are generally
     slightly higher downwind of  the levee, the  differences
     are not statistically significant.  These experiments
     are not considered  conclusive at this  time  and the data
     is being reanalyzed...The levels of ambient airborne
     asbestos in the community at present do  not appear to
     differ significantly from other nearby communities."

     The above referenced 1983 ARB report on  ambient
concentration of asbestos through California  indicates that
the levels found in the  air in Alviso are not significantly
higher than the levels found in San Jose in general.

     In summary, the ambient air  testing done to date in
Alviso has failed to isolate the  ring level as the source of
asbestos in the air in Alviso and has failed  to  demonstrate
that the ambient air concentrations of asbestos  in the Alviso
area are significantly different  than in the  surrounding San
Jose area.
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                 REMEDIAL ACTION ALTERNATIVES


     The OUFS  failed to discuss several  practical,  feasible,
 and cost-effective remedial action  alternatives  and in  some
 cases does not adequately address the  remedial action
 alternatives identified.

 No Action Alternative:

     As set forth in the comments regarding  Asbestos Health
 Risks, no demonstration has been made  that there are adverse
 health effects from chrysotile asbestos  in the concentrations
 found in the ambient air at the Alviso site.  The ambient  air
 testing has failed to isolate the ring levee as  the source or
 a source of asbestos in the ambient air  at Alviso and
 evidence is not presented to indicate  that the concentrations
 of asbestos in the air in Alviso are significantly  different
 than concentrations in the Greater  San Jose  area.   For  all of
 these reasons, the selected alternative  should be no action.

 Chemical Soil Suppressant:

     This alternative is discussed  in  the OUFS only in  terms
 of its potential permanent application.  Supposedly the OUFS
 is recommending interim measures for the South Bay  Asbestos
 Site.  The long term and permanent  solutions  are to be
 covered in the ongoing RIFS.  The chemical suppression  treat-
 ment, which has been in effect since May of  1986, appears to
 have been markedly successful.  The ambient  air  samples taken
 by EPA since the application of the soil suppressant has
 revealed no higher ambient air concentrations of asbestos
 than is found in surrounding communities.  It would appear
 that the continued and "temporary" application of the
 chemical soil suppressant at least until the  conclusion of
 the RIFS would be the most logical and rational  approach to
 the ring levee.  Such an approach is the only alternative
 that has no potential of being in direct conflict with an
 ultimate solution for the ring levee, whatever that may be.
 The continued "temporary" application of chemical soil
 suppressant is also consistent with a City of San Jose and
Army Corps of Engineers'  plan for flood control  improvements
 to the Coyote and Guadalupe Rivers in the Alviso  area.  These
projects,  some of which have commenced, address  the cause of
 the 1983 flooding which led to the construction  of  the levee.
 It is believed that once these flood control measures have
been implemented that the need for the levee would  no longer
exist and  it could then be removed pursuant to the
 alternative discussed below.  Continued soil suppressant use
in the interim would provide protection from the  levee until

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 the  permanent  solution could be  implemented.

 Incorporation  of  Ring  Levee Into New Permanent Levee:

      As  pointed out in the  OUFS, the ring  levee was  built as
 an emergency measure in an  attempt to protect the citizens of
 Alviso from floodwaters during a period of extremely heavy
 rains.   After  construction  of the ring levee, the City of San
 Jose in  1984 prepared  a draft Environmental Impact Report for
 a  permanent levee.   The City and the Corps of Engineers have
 both discussed the  feasibility and possibility of incorpora-
 ting the existing  ring levee into a larger and more  permanent
 levee structure for the protection of the  town of Alviso from
 floodwaters.   If  in fact this project proceeds,  the  existing
 levee would be an  ideal base for a new levee.  The existing
 ring levee  would  be covered with more than ample material to
 prevent  the escape  of  any asbestos containing material into
 the  air.  The  use  of the existing ring levee  and/or  the
 materials in the  existing ring levee would be far and  away
 the  most cost  efficient and practical method  of  construction
 of a new permanent  levee.   No consideration is given to this
 alternative in the  OUFS despite  the fact that such a plan is
 being and has  been  considered for a number of years  by the
 City of  San Jose and the Army Corps of Engineers and is the
 subject  of  the above mentioned Environmental  Impact  Report.
 Pending  the permitting and  construction of the permanent
 levee, the  continued use of chemical soil  suppressants would
 all  but  eliminate the  risks claimed to be  associated with the
 existing  levee.

 Removal  and Relocation of Ring Levee Material to a Project
      Needing Fill and/or to the  Quarries of Origination:

      The  volumes of  studies,  reports,  and  documentation
 relating  to asbestos fibers of the type found in serpentine
 rock  clearly reveal  that the  fibers are hazardous only in the
 event of  inhalation.   That  is, the material is not inherently
 hazardous but  can become hazardous if released to the
 atmosphere  and inhaled in high concentrations over long
 periods of  time.     If  the asbestos containing  rock has no
 potential for  release  to the  atmosphere, it becomes
 non-hazardous.   In  fact,  the  asbestos  containing  rock  is  a
 naturally occurring  substance throughout the  United  States
 and  is used  throughout the  United  States as bedrock  for
 uncountable construction projects  typically including
 roadways, parking lots,  and the  like.   A practical,  permanent
 and cost effective solution to any risk created  by the ring
 levee would be to remove the  material  comprising  the ring
 levee to a  nearby highway construction project where the
material would be utilized  as a  base  fill  and covered  with
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 sufficient  non-asbestos containing  material  arid/or  sealed
 with  asphalt  in conjunction with such  project  to prevent the
 future  escape of any material into  the atmosphere.   The need
 for significant amounts of such fill in connection  with
 highway construction is unquestioned and there is little
 doubt that  a  suitable project site  could be  found within the
 immediate vicinity of the ring levee.   This  alternative not
 only  permanently removes the material  from the Alviso area
 and disposes  of it in a manner where the material is rendered
 non-hazardous, but it is also the most cost  effective
 alternative and minimizes any transportation problems related
 to any  other  removal alternative (i.e.,  to a permitted
 facility).     	

      If  for some reason a suitable  project could not be found
 to utilize  the ring levee fill material,  the material could
 be returned to its "quarries of origin"  for  future  use as
 fill  material under circumstances protecting escape of
 asbestos into the air.   The ability to work  with asbestos
 containing  serpentine in a safe manner  is clearly
 demonstrated  in the Summary Report, Serpentine/Asbestos
 Public  Health Analysis attached as  Exhibit 1.

      Section  122(b)(l)  of CERCLA provides:

      "Remedial actions in which treatment which permanently
      and significantly reduces the volume, toxicity, or
      mobility of hazardous substances,  pollutants and
      contaminants is a principle element and are preferred
      over remedial actions not involving such treatment.
      These latter two alternatives, i.e., removal to a nearby
      project site and/or removal to the  quarries of origin


This  section goes on to provide:

      "The president shall select a remedial  action that is
      protective of human health and the  environment that is
      cost effective,  and that utilizes permanent solutions
      and alternative treatment technology or resource
      recovery technology to the maximum extent practicable.
      If the president selects remedial action not appropriate
      for a preference under this section, the president shall
     publish an explanation as to why  a remedial action
      involving such reductions was not selected."

Finally, subsection (b)(2)  of Section  121 provides:

      "The president may select an alternative remedial action
     meeting the objectives of this subsection whether or not
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     such action has been achieved in practice at any other
     facility or site that has similar characteristics.  In
     making such a selection, the president may take into
     account the degree of support for such remedial action
     by the parties interested in such site."

     The solutions offered by these alternatives, removal to
a suitable construction site or the quarries of origination,
are consistent with other federal laws and regulations and
remove all problems associated with leaving the levee in
place.  As an emergency construction project, the ring levee
was constructed without many of the required permits and
investigations which would normally be undertaken in
connection with a project of this nature.  No Bay
Conservation and Development Commission permit was obtained,
no Environmental Impact Report was done prior to construction
of the levee, no 404 Clean Water Act permits were obtained
and no wetland mitigation provided.  Removal of the levee
resolves all of these problems.
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                            INDEX
       Attachments to EPA Letter Addressed to Nancy Woo
                      Dated May 24, 1988


1.   Asbestos Health Risks

     Exhibit 1 -  Article from California Mining dated
                    September 1986

     Exhibit 2 - Geological Occurrences and Health Hazards of
                    Amphibole and Serpentine Asbestos by
                    Malcolm Ross of U.S. Geological Survey

     Exhibit 3 - Article from British Journal of Industrial
                    Medicine 1980 entitled "Dust Exposure
                    and Mortality in Chrysotile Mining,
                    1910-75"

     Exhibit 4 - Letter from Robert G. Coleman, Ph.D. of
                    Stanford University dated March 25, 1986,
                    addressed to Board Secretary, Air
                    Resources Board

     Exhibit 5 - Letter from Malcolm Ross of U.S. Department
                    of Interior dated February 28, 1985,
                    addressed to Dr. Bernard D. Goldstein
                    of the U.S. EPA

2. Air Monitoring

     Exhibit 1 - Woodward Clyde Report

     Exhibit 2 - State of California Air Resources Board
                    Staff Report and Final Report, Volumes
                    I and II

     Exhibit 3 - EPA's Supplemental Sheet to OUFS

3. Remedial Action Alternatives

     Exhibit 1 - Summary Report:  Serpentine/Asbestos Public
                    Health Analysis

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Comments Submitted by
The City of San Jose

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CITY MANAGER
               CITY  OF  SAN  JOSE, CALIFORNIA
                101 NORTH FIRST STREET. ROOM 460
                SAN JOSE. CALIFORNIA 95110
                TELEPHONE (401) 277-4000
                                    OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL
                                    MANAGEMENT
May 25, 1988
   DELIVERED  BY MESSENGER
   Nancy Woo
   Remedial Project Manager
   U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
   215 Fremont Street (T-4-3)
   San Francisco, CA 94105
       Re: COMMENTS ON OPERABLE UNIT  FEASIBILITY  STUDY.
           SOUTH BAY ASBESTOS SITE. INTERIM  RING  LEVEE.
           ALVISO, CALIFORNIA
   Dear Ms.  Woo:

       This  letter and its enclosures constitute the  City of San Jose's comments
   on  the  Operable Unit Feasibility Study (OUFS) for  the  Alvlso  Ring Levee.
       At  the  outset we wish to state that It 1s apparent  that  considerable
  effort  was  expended by EPA and Its consultants 1n the preparation  of the
  OUFS.   Nonetheless the study has some critically Important shortcomings.  It
  Is the  City's  position that these shortcomings render the OUFS  substantially
  deficient.   It 1s our view that the OUFS 1s not complete enough, at  this
  point,  to serve as a basis for decision.  More work will be  required before

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 Nancy  Woo                                                   Hay 25, 1988
 Comments on Operable Unit  Feasibllty                        Page 2
 Study,  South  Bay Asbestos  Site, Interim
 Ring Levee, Alvlso, California
 the  OUFS  can be said to be adequate to the task of analyzing the risks and
 providing an adequate evaluation of the appropriate  remedial actions.

     For example, and as will be addressed 1n greater detail, the OUFS does not
 properly  address the question of causation, I.e., whether whatever asbestos
 that  1s present 1n various other parts of Alvlso (Including the atmosphere)
 came  from the naturally occurring chrysotlle asbestos contained in the
 serpentine rocks and soil in the levee.  Indeed, the City submits that there
 is considerable evidence that much, if not all, asbestos which may be found in
 Alvlso came from sources other than the levee.  Furthermore, the City points
 out  that  the naturally occurring chrysotlle asbestos 1n the serpentine rock
 and soil  at the Alvlso Ring Levee 1s no different than the naturally occurring
 chrysotlle asbestos found In serpentine rocks and soil In many other areas 1n
 California.  It poses no different health hazard.   It should be treated no
 differently than If the levee were a natural  formation.  The City further
 contends  that EPA has Inadequate information  to conclude that a health risk
 may exist  in Alvlso as a result of the serpentine rocks and soil  in the
 levee.

    The City also contends that critical  engineering questions have not been
adequately examined.   For example, the OUFS falls  to examine the  flood control
ramifications of the  proposed remedial alternatives.  There Is no engineering
analysis as to whether the modifications  to the levee, under the  several

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 Nancy Woo                                                 May 25, 1988
 Comments on Operable Unit  FeaslblHy                       Page 3
 Study, South Bay Asbestos  Site,  Interim
 Ring Levee, Alvlso,  California
 alternatives,  would  Increase  the risk of flood damage.  Without a thorough
 study of the alternatives  1n  the light of their potential flood control
 Impacts, the OUFS  1s  simply Incomplete.  Before any decision 1s made to leave
 the  levee 1n Its  present location, add cover material to 1t, or to remove 1t,
 an engineering study  of the levee must be conducted.. At a minimum, a complete
 study of the levee should  consider whether, with a cover, the levee would
 withstand flooding.   Compaction tests should be conducted prior to any
 decision to  add cover to the  levee.  Only when these tests are conducted, and
 their results  included 1n  the OUFS, can the OUFS be regarded as adequate.  The
 failure  to consider the flood control ramifications of the remedial alterna-
 tives renders  the OUFS deficient.

    To the extent EPA conceptualizes the Ring Levee as a hazardous waste site
 it commits a fundamental error.  The levee should be considered as a
 "community structure."  See 42 U.S.C. Section 9604 (c)(3)(B).  Its character
 as waste  1s  questionable:  It 1s soil and dirt, containing naturally
 occurring, unprocessed, unmanufactured serpentine material,  which contains
 chrysotile asbestos.  As pointed out above, the soil and rock 1n the levee Is
 no different than that found 1n nature 1n numerous sites 1n  California.

    Turning  to aesthetic issues, 1t 1s the CHy's position that 1f the EPA
were  to select a remedy other than  removal, and health and flood/engineering
 issues were equal, then the most desirable remedy 1s the one which would

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 Nancy  Hoo                                                  Hay 25, 1988
 Comments on  Operable  Unit  FeasibUty                       Page 4
 Study,  South Bay  Asbestos  Site,  Interim
 Ring Levee,  Alvlso, California
 provide  for  an  acceptable appearance of the levee, one which meets the
 aesthetic  needs of  the Alvlso community.  A soil cover, with low maintenance
 native plants and gunlte only where 1t 1s necessary, would be preferable,
 certainly  to the plain gunlte cover.  The City strongly urges that the views
 of the Alviso community be  taken into account on matters such as desirability
 of a walking-jogging path,  benches, and other amenities, if the safety of the
 community  is assured.

    A recent search of City files has revealed the possibility that it may be
 appropriate  to designate additional potentially responsible parties (PRPs).
 These include the U.S. Department of the Interior, Piazza Construction,
 Hlllsdale  Quarry, and W. H. Ebert Construction.  Piazza and Ebert evidently
 performed  construction work on various portions of the levee.  Their work
 evidently  included  procuring and transporting more than 1,500 tons of the
 rocks and  soil  used in the  levee.  (The material came from Hillsdale).   The
 Department of the Interior apparently financed the activities of Piazza, and
 by so doing, may have become an "owner" or "operator."

    Any remedial orders should consider both long and short term solutions,
and should provide  for subsequent alterations, for example to permit work to
be undertaken on the ultimate levee.   Any removal  and rebuilding which  might
be permitted should be accomplished between  April  15th and October 15th, in
view of weather considerations.  As Indicated above, flooding/engineering

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 Nancy Woo                                                  May 25, 1988
 Comments on  Operable  Unit  FeasibHty                       Page 5
 Study, South Bay Asbestos  Site,  Interim
 Ring Levee,  Alvlso, California
 studies  are  recommended as a necessary factor 1n selection of the appropriate
 remedial alternative.  Removal of all or any part of the levee should be
 considered only  after  flooding/engineering studies have been conducted, and
 adequate flood control measures, if required, are taken.  Of course the
 effects  of transportation and disposal should be carefully considered, before
 any  removal  1s ordered.

     The City contends  that the EPA's refusal  to extend the comment period as
 requested by the City  constitutes an abuse of discretion which, under the
 circumstances, has denied the City due process of law.  The matter of asbestos
 contamination is complex.  Data as to asbestos health risks 1s Incomplete,
 especially as to chrysotile asbestos.  The comment period allotted to the
 City, thirty days, plus a two-week extension, was simply too brief to permit
 the City to fully address matters of the complexity involved in the OUFS.
 EPA's denial  of the City's request for a sixty day extension hindered the City
 in conducting its review of the OUFS, prevented a study of other alternatives
 and combinations of alternatives, and in preparing full  comments on the OUFS.
As a consequence, the City asserts that it has been denied due process  of law.

    In addition to the foregoing comments on  the OUFS as a whole, the City has
a number of concerns with various specific sections of the OUFS.   These are
addressed separately in the attached comments, which are incorporated by this
reference.

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Nancy Woo                                                  May 25, 1988
Comments on Operable Unit FeasibHty                       Page 6
Study, South Bay Asbestos SHe, Interim
Ring Levee, Alvlso, California
    The City of San Jose extends Its appreciation for the close consideration

we anticipate will be given to our comments.  We regret that time limitations

constrained our efforts to provide full comments.  We would welcome  an

opportunity to submit further comments.



                                       Sincerely,
                                       Michelle YesneyW
                                       Director
                                       Office of Environmental  Management
MY:RCY:GL:nn

Enclosures

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 "EXECUTIVE  SUMMARY"
 Pg.  ES-1, lines  3-4:
 "The ring levee  Is an  earthen  flood control dike about 2 miles long and 6 to 8
 feet high which  surrounds  most of the community of Alvlso..."
 Comments;
 This statement regarding the height conflicts with other statements 1n the
 report.  For example,  page 1-12, Section 1.3.2, "Description of the Levee",  at
 line 28-30  states:
         "The ring levee  1s approximately five feet 1n height with a
         trapezoidal shape, two miles 1n length, and surrounds the
         town of Alvlso on the east, north, and northwest (Figure
         1-2)."

Page 1-6, "Site History", at Hne 17-20 states:

         "The ring levee  1s approximately two miles long, and average
         of four to five  feet 1n height and eight to twelve feet 1n
         width, and surrounds nearly three-quarters of Alvlso.  The
         levee material was apparently Imported from quarries 1n San
         Jose and Cupertino."

Surrounding the town on  the east, north, and northwest,  means that slightly over
half of  the town Is surrounded by the levee (five-eighths 1f northwest 1s
considered 1/8th of the  circumference)  and does not reasonably Imply that "most
of the community" 1s surrounded.
OUFS Comments

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 "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY"
 Pg.  ES-1, Unes 6-8:
 "The  levee was constructed in 1983, Immediately after a major flood,  as  part of
 the  City of San Jose and County of Santa Clara's plans to provide improved flood
 protection to the area."
 Comments;
 Portions of the levee were constructed during the flood, not after.   Accurate
 placement of the emergency levee, 1n terms of conforming to existing  property
 lines, was hampered by the flood conditions (parts of the area were under  water).
The City of San Jose did not then and does not now have primary jurisdiction  or
responsibility for providing flood protection.  Prior to the emergency  action,
no plans were being developed by the City to construct a levee.  The  statement
that the City and the County were jointly planning to provide flood protection
1s Incorrect.  The Santa Clara Valley Water District 1s the public agency
charged with flood control responsibility.
OUFS Comments

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 "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY"
 Pg.  ES-1 ,  lines  8-10:
 "The source of the material used for the levee was a rock quarry contalninn
 asbestos,  and the soils  In the levee contain up to 40 percent asbestos."
 Page 1-6,  lines  16-19, "SITE HISTORY", states:
 "The ring  levee  1s approximately two miles long, an average of four to five feet
 In height  and eight to twelve feet 1n width, and surrounds nearly three-quarters
 of Alvlso.  The  levee material was apparently Imported from quarries 1n San Jose
 and  Cupertino.
 Comments;
 Research on the  part of  the City reveals that the sources of the material  the
 levee  was  constructed from Includes at least two quarries.  Records Indicate
 that soil  was  imported from both the Ralsch Quarry and the Hillsdale Quarry.   It
 1s not known  at  this time whether the Hillsdale Quarry materials contained
 asbestos.   It  Is not known what quarry In Cupertino 1s referred  to.
EPA should  Investigate more thoroughly the sources  of the material  that  the
levee was constructed from and whether those sources  contained asbestos  1n order
to accurately  Identify all Potential Responsible Parties, as  required by 42
U.S.C Section  9613(k)(2)(D).
OUFS Comments

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 "EXECUTIVE  SUMMARY"
 Pg.  ES-2,  lines  6-8:
 "The majority of the  alternatives  were  eliminated because of unproven
 technology, lack of documentation  of protectlveness of human health, or high
 cost."
 Comments;
 At  issue  Is whether the  Implied  elimination of the removal option due to "high
 costs"  1s  valid.  The fact  1s  that the  review of the option of removal  and Its
 subsequent  dismissal  as  a cost effective option was based on the administrative
 requirement by EPA to dispose  of the  material 1n a "RCRA" approved hazardous
 waste disposal facility.  Additional  potential locations for disposal should be
 considered.   Existing EPA policy requiring that naturally occurring asbestos
 material  1n  soil  and  rocks  be  disposed of only 1n RCRA-approved facilities (when
 asbestos can be  safely disposed  of by burial which does not pose any long term
 threat  by migration),  should be  examined prior to dismissal of the removal
 option  as too  costly.

 The  history of EPA's  actions for asbestos abatement includes Instances  where
 asbestos material, once safely buried, was excavated and reburled at high cost
 with no additional Increased protection, is often cited as an extreme example  of
 bureaucratic mismanagement.
OUFS Comments

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 "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY"
 Pg. ES-2, lines 15-17:
 "The gunlte cover requires  fewer easements and  1s easier to Implement, but may
 not be acceptable to the  community and other agencies."
 Comments;
 It Is not clear what the  term  "easements" means here.  If 1t applies to
 easements needed to apply the  gunlte versus the soil cap, then the statement may
 be true.  If easements  for  the placement of the levee are 1n question, 1t 1s not
 clear why the gunlte option would eliminate any required easements.  Speculating
 as to what will be acceptable  to the public 1s not appropriate.  They should be
 consulted and heeded.
OUFS Comments

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 Section 1,  "INTRODUCTION"
 Section 1.1  "Purpose' Pg. 1-1, lines  15-19:
 "Because the flood control levee, or  ring levee, appears to be a significant
 source of asbestos, EPA has chosen  to separate and accelerate the remediation
 process for  the  levee by designating  It an "operable unit."  (Underscore added).
 Cocroents;
 The  quoted  language seems to Indicate that asbestos found elsewhere came from
 the  levee ("source of asbestos").   However, the City contends that while
 naturally occurring chrysotHe asbestos may be present 1n the rocks and soil  1n
 the  levee,  the OUFS does not establish that there has been any "significant"
 migration of that form of asbestos  from the levee.  The City submits that the
 tests  which  may  Indicate the possibility of migration have not been shown to
 have been conducted in a matter accepted as scientifically valid.

 The .City suggests that the sentence be reworded to state "...appears to be a
 discrete area where naturally occurring chrysotile asbestos is found 1n rocks
 and  soil,....'  The foregoing would be substituted for  '...appears to be a
 significant  source of asbestos...'.

 The  City also points out that the naturally occurring chrysotHe  asbestos found
 in the  rocks and soil  In the levee is no different than the naturally occurring
 chrysotile asbestos found In rocks and soil  In a variety of other locations,
 including their original  (natural) locations.   If the levee were  a  fortuitously
 located  geological formation deposited In  Us  present location by the forces  of
 nature,  it would not have been  Included 1n  the South  Bay Asbestos Area.   That
 the  levee came into being as a  flood control measure, and not  as  a  result of
 deposition through the course of nature should not make any difference.   There
was no  "waste' disposal  in  the  ordinary sense.  The levee should  not be  treated
as a waste disposal  site.

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 "Section  1.2  "SITE BACKGROUND"
 Section  1.2.1  "SITE LOCATION AND DESCRIPTION" Pg. 1-2, lines 19-21:
 "Flooding occurs  because  of the site's  proximity to the Bay and land subsidence
 due  to  ground  water extraction In  the vicinity."
 Comments;
 The  City  submits  that the quoted language Indicates that the OUFS analysis  of
 the  causes of  flooding  1n Alvlso 1s superficial and that additional analysis  1s
 required  before a remedy  1s selected.   The City suggests that "proximity to the
 Bay  and land subsidence...."  falls to  take Into consideration a variety of
 factors relevant  to an  evaluation  of flooding risks.

 If proximity to the Bay and land subsidence were the only factors, all  lands
 below the level of the  Bay would be submerged at all times.  Obviously  more 1s
 involved  in determining whether flooding, especially from non-bay sources,  1s
 caused or Influenced by any natural or man-made factors, including but  not
 limited to other  flood control devices.

 Without an examination which goes  beyond "proximity to the Bay and land
 subsidence..." the OUFS Is deficient and provides an Inadequate basis for
 selection  of the suitability, vis-a-vis the flooding potential, of any  of the
 alternatives.  This-1s of no little significance.  In the absence of evidence
 establishing that the remedial action will  not Increase the risk of flooding, a
 prudent PRP might be compelled to  resist a  remedial  order. In an effort to
 Insulate  Itself from liability for flood damage and asbestos  contamination  which
might result from flood water erosion and dispersal  of the levee.
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  Section  1.2 "SITE BACKGROUND"


  Section  1.2.2 "SITE HISTORY" Pg. 1-6,  lines  1-2:


                   J°Se constructed the  r^9 levee after a disastrous flood 1n
  Comments;
  The levee was constructed during,  not after, the flood.
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   Section 1.2 "SITE  BACKGROUND"
   Section 1.2.2 "SITE  HISTORY" Pg.  1-6,  lines  6-9:
             proceeded
             (COE) who     w..   	  „_,  JUWM  ^
   consultation  with  the  Federal and State^agencl'es
   Comments;
   It  is  the City's position that the flooding emergency simply left no time to
   consult  the various agencies Involved.  Moreover, applicable regulations
  contemplate emergency situations, and provide for "after-the-fact"  permitting,
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 Section  1.2 "SITE BACKGROUND"
 Section  1.2.2  "SITE  HISTORY" Pg. 1-6, lines  8-13:
 "The  City placed the "ring levee" 1n the approximate  location of  Its tentatively
 planned  flood-control  levee, termed the "ultimate  levee"  (Figure  1-3) which
 would join the Guadalupe River levee at a top  elevation of  10.0 to 11.5 feet
 (City of San Jose, 1984).  The unfunded, tentative  flood  control  plan was the
 basis for construction of the existing ring  levee."
 Comments;
 The City had no plans  to construct a levee prior to the 1983 flood.  There was
 no "tentative  flood  control  plan" prior to the construction of the emergency
 ring  levee and the document cited by EPA postdates  the construction activity.
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 Section 1.2 "SITE BACKGROUND"
 Section 1.2.2 "SITE  HISTORY" Pg.  1-6, lines 18-19:
 "The  levee material  was  apparently  Imported from quarries In San Jose and
 Cupertino."
 Comments:
 This  statement conflicts with an  earlier statement found on pg. ES-1, lines  8
 and 10.

         "The source  of the material used for the levee was a rock
         quarry containing asbestos, and the soils 1n the levee
         contain up to  40 percent  asbestos."

 If EPA  has  Identified  an additional quarry source for the fill, the  source
 should  be  cited,  the source should be Investigated to ascertain whether  it
 contains asbestos, and the source should be Identified as a Potentially
 Responsible Party, as  required by 42 U.S.C. Section 9613(k)(2)(D).
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 Section 1.2 "SITE BACKGROUND"
 Section 1.2.2 "SITE HISTORY"  Pg. 1-8, lines 9-12:
 "The level  of airborne asbestos generated was  approximately  100  times higher
 than the Occupational  Health  and Safety Administration  (OSHA)  Permissible
 exposure limit (explained 1n  more detail  1n Section  1.3.1) and prompted the DHS
 to contact EPA."
 Comments;
 The OUFS falls to establish either the relevance or  validity of  the raking and
 shoveling "experiment" (not test, not sampling method,  but "experiment") or that
 the OSHA permissive exposure  limit (for occupational  settings) 1s applicable to
 environmental  naturally occurring chrysotlle asbestos when 1t  1s not
 artificially disturbed by raking and  shoveling In  front of a fan.  (To the
 City's  knowledge  raking and shoveling the levee 1s an activity pursued only by
 representatives of DHS and EPA).
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 Section 1.2 "SITE BACKGROUND"
 Section 1.2.2 "SITE  HISTORY" Pg  1-10,  lines 1-5:
 "When the asbestos fibers  1n a solid material, such as soil or Insulation, are
 released Into the air  and  Inhaled,  the adverse human health effects are
 extremely serious.  Asbestos 1s  one of 20 known human carcinogens and also
 causes other lung diseases.  Asbestos has been throughly examined 1n numerous
 epidemiology studies."
 Comments;
 The quoted language  is  both too  general and too brief.  It is simply not the
 case that studies show,  or permit the reasonable conclusion, that Inhalation of
 any single asbestos  fiber, of any size, will invariably produce an extremely
 adverse human health effect.  Indeed, some fibers, notably chrysotile, as a
 result of their  size and susceptibility to acid decomposition, seem to pose a
 lower risk of adverse health effects.

 Moreover,  it is  submitted that not all forms of asbestos have been thoroughly
 examined  "in numerous epidemiology studies."  There have been numerous
 studies.  These  were not uniform, and many did not (were not able to)
 distinguish one  form of asbestos, chrysotile, from others.   The quoted language
 Is  therefore misleading.  The distinctions in the studies of the effects  of
 various  forms  of asbestos are simply too important to justify Indiscreet  use of
 the  Inaccurate collective tern "asbestos."
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Section  1.2  "SITE  BACKGROUND"
Section  1.2.2  "SITE HISTORY"  Pg. 1-12, lines 8-9:
"Although the  OSHA 0.2  f1ber/cc workplace standard 1s the only promulgated
health  standard  for asbestos, EPA 1s concerned about any asbestos exposure."
lines  12-14:
"EPA recognizes  that a  certain background concentration of asbestos exists 1n
the atmosphere,  caused  by asbestos product use and natural sources, which cannot
be remedied.*
lines 25-26:
"In conclusion,  the adverse health effects of asbestos are well documented, with
no known safe  threshold of exposure."
Comments:
EPA's concern  for  asbestos exposure Is appreciated, but concern does not mean
that a  particular  action contemplated by EPA Is justified.  The fact 1s that, to
date, EPA has  not  found a justifiable basis for the promulgation of appropriate
standards for  naturally occurring asbestos 1n rocks and soil.  This 1s why EPA
has not  promulgated standards or regulations applicable to chrysotlle asbestos
In Its naturally occurring form, In soil and rock.  Acting against the levee on
the basis of data  that  1s Incomplete - or worse • In the face of data Indicating
that different forms of asbestos pose different risks, and that chrysotlle may
well pose the  least risk, would be arbitrary and capricious.

In addition, It  1s submitted that where, as here, the
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         "Levels  of ambient airborne asbestos 1n the community
         doe not  appear to differ significantly.from other nearby
         communities" (OUTS supp. sheet, April 28, 1988),

there 1s  no justification for EPA to take action until  all  unresolved matters
have been addressed.  To act otherwise would deny the rights of Alvlsans  and the
PRPs to  an informed reasonable judgment, and procedural  due process.
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 Section  1.3.2  "DESCRIPTION OF THE LEVEE"

 Pg.  1-12,  lines  28-29, Pg 1-13, line 1:

 "The levee 1s  generally  rounded In shape, with side slopes generally steeper
 than 2:1,  and  covers an  area of approximately eight acres."

 Comments;

 The  area said  to be covered by the levee appears to be an error.   Appendix  Page

 C-l  cites  an Initial loss In acreage calculation made by the U.S.  Army Corps of

 Engineers  (letter from the Corps of Engineers to the City, of San  Jose, Feb.  9.

 1987)  as being 4.2 acres.  An additional area of approximately 4.0 acres  1s

 cited  as being required  for the proposed capping option.
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 Section 1, "INTRODUCTION"
 Pg.  1-21, lines  24-25:
 •Based on the TEM results,  1t appears  likely that the ring  levee was
 contributing asbestos  to  the ambient air  In Alvlso during windy periods."
 Comments;
 This statement seems  to be  an unsupported assumption or opinion.  The testing
 cited does not appear  to  be designed to differentiate between different sources
 of asbestos dust.  Considering the  widespread Indiscriminate dumping of asbestos
 containing wastes that have taken place,  the large amount of unpaved dirt roads
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 and  commercial  areas  known  to contain  asbestos dust, and the lack of control  of
 this source of re-entrained dust generated by both wind and vehicle traffic,  1t
 would seem appropriate to assume that  other sources, besides the levee, are
 principal contributors.   It 1s not  clear how, based on the TEM results cited,
 the  conclusion  stated, "1t  appears  likely that the ring levee was contributing
 asbestos", 1s supported by  evidence.   In fact, as noted in the following
 paragraph in  the  text, evidence exists that could refute that assumption:

 Page 1-21, lines  29-30:

         "Results  of the PCLM,  or optical microscopy, analysis showed
         opposite  results (Table 1-2)."
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 Section 1  "BACKGROUND
 Section 1.3.2 "DESCRIPTION OF THE  LEVEE" Pg. 1-21,  lines 24-27:
 "Results of the PCLM,  or  optical microscopy, analysis  showed opposite results
 (Table 1-2).  In all 6 upwind/downwind  sample pairs, the downwind concentrations
 were less  than, or equal  to,  the concentrations upwind of the dike."
 Comments;
 The OUFS supplemental  sheet dated  April 28, 1988 also  comments on upwind/
 downwind sampling, noting that the differences "are not statistically
 significant..." and that  "the experiments are not considered conclusive at this
 time and the data  are  being reanalyzed...."  Most unfortunately, the OUFS
 supplemental  sheet does not Identify which experiments "are not considered
 conclusive"  and which  data  1s being reanalyzed, or why.  EPA's failure to
 Identify these  experiments, or to  say why they are not considered conclusive
 leaves the matter  open  to speculation and denies commenters the opportunity to
 present arguments  or evidence on this point.  The result Is a denial of an
 effective  opportunity  to  comment,  a denial  of due process.
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Section  2  "REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
"ASBESTOS  TOXICITY" Pg. 2-2, lines 18-20:
"Therefore to  be consistent with EPA's policy and standard of practice, site
remediation should control containment releases so that the risk from exposure
Is  Insignificant."
Comments;
This  statement seems to highlight the scientific and policy dilemma faced by
EPA.   A  no-threshold exposure value for which there 1s no danger of cancer from
exposure 1s cited in the previous sentence as the level required for safety.
How,  considering ambient background levels 1n existence throughout the entire
area, excluding the Alvlso area, can an assessment of the efficiency of any
proposed remediation method be determined as decreasing risk to an (undefined)
"Insignificant" level?  Only the complete elimination of asbestos from the
ambient  environment could be considered as a zero threshold or "insignificant"
risk.
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 Section 2 "REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 •ASBESTOS TOXICITY" Pg. 2-2, line 20:
 "Asbestos 1s present 1n the levee soils In  amounts  up to 40 percent  (as measured
 by PLM and TEM).  The value 1s 2,000 times  more  than the Region  IX air guideline
 of 200ppm 1n soil  (0.02X) which would cause a  (10  to the minus 4) risk 1n air
 under worst-case assumptions."
 Comments;
 This  1s not a valid worst-case assumption for  the  simple reason  that we know, at
 least with some statistical certainty, that the  highest level observed is not a
 valid likely mean  value.   Even a worst-case assumption  has  to be tempered by
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 some  reasonable estimate  of the likely percent of asbestos  present 1n the fill.
 A worst-case assumption does not allow choosing  a discrete  data  that may fit a
 previously taken assumption or unrecognized bias.   We would suggest. If this
 section 1s to serve some  function,  that the worst-case  assumption be based on a
 concentration based on  the mean, not the extreme of the existing data.

 An additional  flaw in  this logic Is. the general  assumption  that  a concentration
 of asbestos  in  soil  can be projected to a lifetime  exposure and  a predicted
 level  In  air.   The OUFS contains no  substantiation  for  that assumption.
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 Section 2 "REMEDIAL  ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Pg.  2-4, Under "Description of NESHAP" in  table
                        i
         Controls  on  asbestos use Include  "no  visible  emissions",
         and prohibits  the use of asbestos  mine waste  for  surfacing."
 and  1n the text following the table
 "Since there are  no  regulations or health  standards that  apply directly to
 outdoor air asbestos concentrations,  the risk from asbestos In the levee soils
 has  been calculated  under the No Action alternative In Section 4.0."
 Comments:
 EPA's  description of the  NESHAP neglects to mention that  there 1s apparently no
 prohibition which addresses the use of rocks  and soil which contain chrysotlle
 asbestos 1n Us naturally, occurring form from being used  as fill  material  for
 levees, dikes, roadbeds,  or any other  purpose.  Conceptually, it would seem
 that the rocks and soil 1n  the levee are no different from any other serpentine
 rocks  and soil  1n their natural  settings.  To order action against the levee,
 and  not other sites  where serpentine rocks and soil are found, without stating a
 rationale for making the  distinction,  is not  justified.   The OUFS contains no
 such rationale.
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 Section 2 "REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Section 2.5.3  "OFF-SITE CONTAINMENT" Pg. 2-24, lines 18-21:
 "Regulations  prohibit transporting hazardous wastes to a non-RCRA-perm1tted
 off-site location for disposal.  RCRA landfills will be the only off-site
 containment technology evaluated 1n this feasibility study."
 Comments;
 This  statement constitutes the basic underlying flaw present 1n both EPA's
 approach to the general problem of naturally occurring asbestos and the
 Feasibility Study presented In the OUFS under consideration.  It represents an
 Illogical Interpretation of policy.

 While EPA has  classified asbestos as a carcinogen, it must nevertheless be
 recognized that naturally occurring forms of asbestos present a unique and
 distinctly different challenge.  The naturally occurring forms of asbestos
 found In the soil at the site do not require the stringent criteria and
 controls needed for final  disposal  that other hazardous wastes present.  In
 many  other states within the United States, this material  1s not considered a
 hazardous waste as It Is In California.  The appropriate long-term disposal
 requirement for asbestos-containing soil 1s burial.  It does not require
 specific liners or other controls at the burial  site because asbestos  1s both
 chemically Inert and Insoluble 1n water so that migration  Is not a problem.
 The enormous amounts of this material  currently safely contained by nature
 support this statement.

 Limiting the study to consideration of RCRA landfills Is a failure to  consider
 reasonable alternatives.   It 1s submitted that removal  and placement of the
material  In a burial  site  Is an option which must be evaluated 1f the  study 1s
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 Section 2 "REMEDIAL  ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Section 2,5.3  "OFF-SITE  CONTAINMENT"  Pg. 2-24,  lines  18-21  (Cont.):
 Comments;
 to  be complete.   For example, consideration might be  given  to using the rock
 and soil as freeway  construction fill,  so  1t could be paved over with
 concrete, 1n much  the way that other  serpentine rock  and soil 1s used.  That
 1s  not to say  that the City necessarily endorses this option; 1t 1s simply to
 suggest that the OUFS 1s  Incomplete without consideration of the option.  This
 1s  especially  the  case 1f EPA flooding/engineering studies  suggest that one of
 the cover alternatives would pose a risk of future flood damage.

 The fact that  the  EPA has  to discard  what  may be the  safest and best long-term
 solution, removal  and burial, because EPA's administrative  requirements are
 Inflexible, has extreme  Implications  for this project.

 The fact that  asbestos-containing soils are routinely being excavated and  used
 within  this region and throughout the state, without similar controls or
 concern  only confounds public perception of this Issue.

 Consideration  must be  given  by EPA to not  requiring asbestos-containing soil.
 to  be disposed of  In  a RCRA  landfill.  Indeed, the City submits  that disposal
 In  a  RCRA landfill 1s  not required.  40 C.F.R. Section 300.65.   Any available
 class II  or class  III  landfill  should be considered for the disposal  of this
 site.  Additionally,  a non-landfill burial  site which will  provide  a  final
 resting  place  for  the material, such as a quarry,  should also be considered.
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 Section  3 "INITIAL  SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 "Effectiveness"  Pg.  3-15, lines 20-22:
 (Of off-site removal)  "However, risks to human health and the environment during
 Implementation are  likely to be the highest with this alternative, due to the
 extensive excavation and hauling activities."
 Comments;
 This statement seems to  be an unsupported opinion.  Appropriate mitigation
 measures are available and are routinely used 1n various projects to mitigate
 the potential dust  generation from excavation.  Similarly, the transportation of
 hazardous waste  1s  regulated and, aside from potential vehicle accidents which
 could release the soil,  the excavation and transport of material  should not
 present  a health threat.   It should be recognized that serpentine rocks and soil
 are routinely being  excavated and hauled throughout California, and In many
 other parts  of the nation.   No restrictions or controls have been set by EPA
 which covers those operations.   If controls are needed, they should be
 promulgated. The Inference to be drawn from the failure to promulgate such
 regulations  1s that  none  are needed.
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 Section 3 "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Pg.  3-17, lines  17-19:
 "The Off-Site RCRA Landfill  alternative has  also been  screened out because
 capital costs are seven  times more than similar alternatives."
 Comments;
 Removal costs cited on  page  3-18,  "Containment Alternatives Summary Table"
 Indicate an estimated cost for the "Off-Site RCRA/TSCA Landfill" of $7,969,900.
 The  other alternative option costs cited range from  $1,380,600 to $2,950,400.
 The  statement that the  removal  option  1s seven times more expensive than similar
 options 1s an obvious error  1n  mathematical  calculation and raises the question
 as to what other  errors  1n calculations, perhaps less  obvious, are within the
 body of this  study and have  formed the basis for some  of the conclusions and
 recommendations contained  in the document.
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 Section 3 "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES'
 Pg.  3-20. lines 17-19:
 "Since this fixation  product has  been  Identified as an asbestos source at the
 site, fixation as a remedial  alternative may not be consistent with ARARs and
 EPA  policy."
 Comments:
 There is no evidence  known  to the City to suggest that "this fixation product"
 1$ present In  the operable  unit under  discussion, I.e., the Ring Levee.  To the
 City's knowledge, the only  form of asbestos 1n the levee 1s naturally occurring
 chrysotlle asbestos found 1n  Us  natural condition 1n the rocks and soil  In the
 levee.  Unfortunately,  the  quoted language Illustrates shortcomings 1n the OUFS;
 the  failure to differentiate  between types of asbestos, and the failure to
 attempt to Identify the source  or origin of the asbestos being discussed.  The
 City submits that the levee 1s  a  discrete, Identifiable portion of the site.
 The  failure to specifically Identify "asbestos" and Its source, renders this
 portion of the OUFS misleading.
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 Section 3 "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES'
 'Cost"  Pg. 3-27, lines 32-34:
 "Estimates of total  project costs,  extrapolated  from  bench  and  pilot test, range
 from $300 to $14UO/cy (University of Minnesota).   Based  on  a  treatment cost of
 $125/cy, the estimated capital  cost of the  Plasma  Fusion alternative Is
 $8,515,400."
 Comments;
 This  estimate seems  to be totally unsupported.   An estimate range of cost 1s
 first cited, then Ignored for no apparent reason and  with no  explanation.  Based
 on  the  Information provided, the estimated  range of costs for the Plasma Fusion
 alternative would be $20,436,960 to $95,372,480.
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 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS  OF SELECTED  REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Section 4.1.2 "WETLAND  ISSUES"  Pg. 4-5, lines 3-5:
 "Filling activities to  provide  bulldable  land have claimed the majority of the
 Bay marshes over the last  100 years."
 lines  15-31:
 •Identified violations  Include:
     o    Executive Orders 11988  and 11900
     o    Clean Water Act, Section 404(b)(1)
     o    Endangered Species Act, Section 7
     o    USFWS Coordination Act  and companion Mitigation Policy
     o    Rivers  and Harbors Act, Section 10"
 Comments;
 No  authority  1s  cited for the statement "filling activities  to provide bulldable
 land have claimed the majority of the Bay marshes over the last 100 years."   It
 Is  submitted  that the statement may not be justified.  It Is  suggested that of
 the  'lost wetlands", 80t have been converted to salt ponds or similar uses, and
 that only  lit  have  been converted to Industrial  uses. It Is  believed that San
 Francisco International Airport, Oakland International and the U.S.  Naval A1r
 Station,  Alameda,  account for nearly all of the lit.

 As to  the alleged  violations, It 1s suggested that 1n the absence of notice and
 a hearing,  followed by an adjudication, It 1s premature for the Agency to state
 flatly, without  qualification, that "violations  have  occurred." In  order to
 preserve  Its  defenses, and to avoid any adverse  Inferences which might be drawn
 from failure  to  comment, the City of San Jose, on Us own bejiaVf± and on behalf
of Its present and former officers, employees and agents, specifically denies
any  and all "violations" referred to In the OUFS, expressly or by Implication.
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 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS OF SELECTED  REMEDIAL ACTIONS  ALTERNATIVES"
 Section 4.1.2  "Wetlands Issues" Pg.  4-6,  lines 5-7  and  9-11:
 "The  plan 1s a series  of calculations  developed by  USF&W showing that 1) 194.8
 acres  of wetlands  adjacent to the New  Chicago Marsh...".   "...22.5 acres of land
 would  need to  be  exchanged for the eight  acres lost to  provide for lost habitat
 value."
 Comments;
 For the record, and to preserve Us  objections, the City disagrees with the
 USF&W  calculations.   It 1s submitted that they are  without demonstrated
 justification  In  law or fact.
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 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS OF SELECTED REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Section 4.2 "ANALYSIS  OF NO ACTION  ALTERNATIVE"  Pg.  4-8, lines 7-10 and 32-34:
 "For this risk assessment,  under the chosen exposure scenario, 1t 1s assumed
 that the DHS "worst case" experiment 1s a true worst case, and that the "toy
 truck' experiment 1s a plausible worst case."
 "It was assumed that a child would  play on the levee for 5 hours every day for 6
 days during each week  of the summer months."
 Comments;
 The City submits that  the "toy  truck" experiment has not been demonstrated to be
 a  vaHd method and  that 1t  has  not  been shown to have any scientific validity.
 The City disagrees  that the "toy truck' experiment has been shown to be a
 "plausible worst case."

 As to  the assumption that a child would play on the  levee for "5 hours every day
 for 6  days of each  week of  the  summer months" 1t 1s  submitted that the OUFS
 contains no evidence to support that assumption.  Therefore, 1t 1s suggested
 that the exposure assumption  has  not been shown to have a valid basis.  The
 exposure assumptions should be  redone.
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Section  4  "DETAILED  ANALYSIS  OF  SELECTED  REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
"COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE"  Pg. 4-14,  line  2:
"No  Action would  not be acceptable  to  the community given the emergency remedial
work performed  to date  and the Information  EPA has provided on the dangers of
asbestos."
Comments:
This statement  seems to be an unsupported opinion.  The community has
questioned, at  the recent public  meeting, why EPA has taken no action regarding
the  obvious sources  of  dust,  the  community streets and truck yards, but 1s
seemed apparent that they had little knowledge regarding the "remedial  work
performed  to  date" (assuming  this 1s a  reference to the polymer spraying).
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 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS OF SELECTED  REMEDIAL  ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 "STATE AND LOCAL AGENCY ACCEPTANCE"  Pg. 4-14,  lines  10-11:
 "Local agencies have also expressed  concern  about  the  health  risks at the levee."
 Comment
 The unidentified "local agencies"  and  the nature of  their "expressed concerns"
 should be Identified 1n the OUTS',  and  opportunity  to address  their concerns
 should be permitted.  Failure to Identify them, and  to  permit comment, denies
 procedural  due process to the PRPs.
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 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS OF SELECTED  REMEDIAL  ACTIONS  ALTERNATIVES"
 •COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE" Pg.  4-19.  line  14:
 •The soil cover alternative should  be  acceptable to  the majority of the
 community."
 Comment
 The City Is most concerned  that the opinions of the  community be considered.
 Documentation of public meetings  1n which  such opinions were expressed should be
 provided.
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  Appendix 8, "TOXICITY PROFILE  FOR ASBESTOS"
  "DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSIONS" Pg.  B-19,  lines  34-37:
  "Although Alvlso air contains  10  to  1000  times  more  fibers  per cubic meter than
  control area air (which also contains detectable  fibers), the levels are more
  than a thousand times below occupational  standards and  thus would not constitute
  an alarming exposure."
  Comment
  This statement should be considered  with  the  statement  1n the April 28, 1988
  supplemental sheet that "the levels  of  ambient  airborne asbestos 1n the
%  community at present do not appear to differ  significantly  from other nearby
  communities."   These statements suggest that  selection  of a "remedy" before
  full  evaluation of necessity and  appropriateness  of  the remedy has been
  evaluated would be premature.
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 Appendix B,  "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS"
 Pg.  1-2, line 13:
 "    o   Health criteria  are developed  for  exposure to asbestos via Inhalation
         based on  a  recent Airborne Asbestos Health Assessment Update (EPA
         1986). The major uncertainties associated with developing health
         criteria  for exposure to  asbestos  via Inhalation  Include:
         (1)  uncertainty  associated with extrapolation from high occupational
         levels to much lower ambient levels, (2) difficulties associated with
         converting  between results of  different methods of measurement, and (3)
         questions Involving the relevance  of extrapolating dose-response data
         that may  be based on different mineral ogle and physical forms.1'
 Comment
 The  quote demonstrates,  1n EPA's  own language, that "major uncertainties"
 continue to  exist with respect to health criteria for exposure to asbestos via
 Inhalation.   As that Is  the case, and  as "the levels of ambient airborne
 asbestos In  the community at present do not appear to differ significantly from
 other nearby communities" (OUFS Supplemental sheet, April 28, 1988) It 1s
 suggested that selection of a permanent remedy be made at the earliest
 appropriate  time, I.e.,  as soon as the "major uncertainties' are resolved.  The
 City urges the EPA  to take prompt action to resolve the "major uncertainties"
 and  to  make  Us selection, once the "major uncertainties" are resolved.
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OUFS Comments

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 Appendix B,  "TOXICITY PROFILE  FOR ASBESTOS" Section 2.0
 "INTRODUCTION"  Pg.  2-1   line 32, and Pg. 2-2, lines 1-2:
 "However, asbestosls  1s  primarily observed 1n occupatlonally exposed  Individuals
 following long-term exposure to high levels of asbestos."
 Comments:
 The  quoted language Illustrates the need to closely examine the sweeping
 generalizations currently extant regarding asbestos.  The statement that
 •asbestosls  Is  primarily Involved 1n occupatlonally exposed Individuals
 following long-term exposure   to high levels of asbestos" would seem  to be more
 to the  point.   The  Alvlso Ring Levee does not Involve a risk of long-term
 occupational exposure  to high  levels of asbestos, and must be evaluated
 differently.
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OUFS Comments

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Appendix B, "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS"
Section 3 "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"  Pg.  3-5,  line 7:
"...fine chrysotlle fibers were not studied because they could  not  be
measured...."
Comments;
The quoted language Illustrates the points that not all  "asbestos"  studies are
studies of the same fibers, and that results of a given  study are not
necessarily applicable to all forms of asbestos particularly chrysotlle
asbestos.  For this reason, 1t 1s submitted that the health effects and exposure
assumptions 1n the OUFS should be reevaluated,  using studies specific to
chrysotlle.
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 Appendix B, "TOXICITY PROFILE  FOR  ASBESTOS"
 iSection 3 "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES" Pg. 3-6, line 13:
 "The degradation of chrysotlle 1s  greatest,"
 lines 18-19:                              '
 "It has been difficult to  assign a scale of relative  pathogenlcity to various
 asbestos types.*
 lines 22-25:
 "It has been suggested that chrysotlle 1s less hazardous than other asbestos
 types.   However, high rates of lung cancer 1n asbestos workers have been related
 to  all  types of asbestos  Including chrysotlle (Dement 1982, 1983a,b, EPA 1986)."
 Comments;
 It  1s submitted that  chrysotile's  fiber size and degradation character,
 especially In  nonoccupatlonal  settings are significant factors which merit
 closer  attention.   Moreover, that  "high rates" 1n asbestos workers have been
 "related"  to all  types of  asbestos, Is not to say that much lower ambient
 airborne levels  of chrysotlle  asbestos will also "relate" to "high rates" of any
 particular disease.   The OUFS  falls to make this Important distinction.
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Appendix  8,  "TOXICITY  PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS"
Section 3  "INITIAL SCREENING OF REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES" Pg.  3-7, lines
1-6:
"It should be emphasized  that there 1s still considerable controversy as to
whether or not croddolHe or other amphlbole asbestos types are more
carcinogenic than chrysotlle (EPA 1986).  Great Britain, Canada, and Sweden, for
example,  have Imposed  far more rigid standards for croddollte than other
varieties of asbestos.  In contrast, the United States has no specific standard
for any specific asbestos mineral."
lines 16-17:
"Unfortunately, the differential risk associated with different fiber types 1s
still not completely understood (EPA 1986)."
Comments;
To impose enormously expensive requirements which purport to solve  a problem
allegedly created by a naturally occurring substance found 1n rocks and soil 1n
Its natural state 1n widespread areas, before the "considerable controversy" 1s
resolved, and the differential  risks are understood. Is to act on the basis of
Insufficient Information.  In this setting, remedial  orders would be arbitrary
and capricious.
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 Appendix B,  "TOXICITY  PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS
 Section 4 "DESCRIPTION OF HEALTH EFFECTS IN HUMANS
 Section 4.1  "Carcinogenic effects" Pg. 4-1, lines 5-8:
 "The cardnogenldty of asbestos following 1ngest1on has not been conclusively
 established;  however there 1s available data from occupational  studies  that
 suggest a link  between Inhalation and subsequent 1ngest1on of asbestos  and
 gastrointestinal  cancer."
 lines 23-28:
 "A  limited number of studies have suggested a possible association between
 Increased Incidence of human cancers and exposure to asbestos 1n  nonoccupatlonal
 settings. These  studies have examlne.d the occurrence of asbestos-related
 disease among family contacts of asbestos workers, residents living 1n  the
 vicinity of asbestos facilities or other sources of ambient asbestos,..."
 lines 29-30 and page 4-2, lines 1-2.
 "However, these types  of associations have not been extensively studied, and  in
 many cases, results of the studies are Inconclusive or equivocal.   Furthermore,
 exposure data often are incomplete or lacking."
 Comments:
 The  quoted language Illustrates the limitations of the data available.
 Moreover, Alviso  is a  nonoccupatlonal setting "where the levels of ambient
 airborne asbestos in the community at present do not appear to  differ
 significantly from other nearby communities." (OUFS supplemental  sheet, April
28,  1988).  To order remedial action before the OUFS contains data  adequate to
 Justify the remedial action contemplated would be to act on "inconclusive or
equivocal" data.  Given these limitations,  and the limited, inconclusive,
equivocal  information  presented in the OUFS,  a decision  based on the OUFS would
be arbitrary  and capricious.
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Appendix B, "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS
"Section 4, "DETAILED ANALYSIS OF SELECTED REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES" Pg.
4-2, line 1:
"...results of the [nonoccupatlonal] studies are Inconclusive  or equivocal.
Furthermore, exposure data often are Incomplete or lacking."
Comments;
The quoted language again Illustrates-that the nonoccupatlonal studies are
"Inconclusive of equivocal."  Selection of a permanent remedy  should be based on
conclusive, unequivocal  studies, and It Is suggested that the  selection process
Include such studies.
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 Appendix B, "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR  ASBESTOS"
 Section 4 "DETAILED ANALYSIS  OF  SELECTED REMEDIAL ACTIONS ALTERNATIVES"
 Section "ANALYSIS OF NO ACTION ALTERNATIVE" Pg. 4-7, lines 24-25:
                           ^^
Comments:
This language,  too, Illustrates that different forms of asbestos may well carry

different risks.  We also note that chrysotlle seems to be associated with the
lowest risks.
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Appendix  B,  "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS"
Section 4.0  "DESCRIPTION OF HEALTH EFFECTS OF ASBESTOS"  Pg 4-8, lines 5-7:
"However,  chrysotlle 1s more vulnerable to add and shows a  tendency to split
Into  smaller fibers or to dissolve 1n the lung (Morgan and Seaton 1984)."
lines 24-25:
"Information  concerning the occurrence of asbestos-related disease among persons
not directly exposed at the workplace Is limited.*
Comments:
___^___                                                        ,
The comment  as to the vulnerability of chrysotHe  (to dissolve In .add, to split
Into smaller  fibers, or to dissolve In the lung) Indicates that the risks of
chrysotile exposure maxwell be lower than for other forms of asbestos.

In addition,  the "limited" Information as to  the occurrence of asbestos-related
diseases among persons  not directly exposed at the  work  place* suggests that
additional Information  should be obtained as  soon as possible.  As soon as 1t
becomes available, but  not before,  EPA should select a remedy, based on that
Information.
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 Appendix B,  "TOXICITY PROFILE FOR ASBESTOS"
 "DOSE-RESPONSE ASSESSMENT"  Pg.  6-6,  lines 11-12:
 "The risks shown in Table 6-1 are best estimates  for  inhalation exposure to
 fibers  released from a variety of asbestos products used  in the United States."
 lines  17-18:
 "In  some pure chrysotile exposure circumstances (e.g., mining and milling), the
 risk may be overestimated."                                                 	
 Comment
 Again  it appears that the generalized  statements in  the  OUFS as to the risks
 posed  by asbestos  may not apply to the risk posed by  the  naturally occurring
 chrysotile asbestos in the  levee.  There is a differential, and 1t should be
 taken  into account that a policy which fails to consider  the differences in the
 risks  is  deficient.   For that reason, the OUFS is inadequate, as this
 differential  has not been addressed.
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OUFS Comments

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 Appendix  B,  "TOXICITY  PROFILE  FOR ASBESTOS"

 Section  7,  "SUMMARY OF CRITERIA" Pg. 7-1, lines 8-13 and 19-20:

 "The  criteria  for  exposure by  Inhalation to asbestos 1n ambient air shown 1n
 Table 7-1 are  expressed  In terms of PCM fibers per ml  (I.e., fibers   5 microns
 1n  length,  aspect  ratios    3.1).  These limitations are required primarily
 because  the majority of available studies on which the criteria are based
 employed  PCM analytical  techniques.  Thus. Individual asbestos minerals could
 not be distinguished and were  not considered separately."

 "Asbestos counts,  even when limited to the fraction greater than 5 microns,
 differ widely  between  PCM and  TEM."

 Comment

 The.blanket  Indictment of asbestos is not completely justified.  EPA should

 attempt  to  conduct studies evaluating the individual asbestos materials.  Only

 when  this is done  can  the OUFS serve as a basis for rational decision.
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OUFS Comments

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 Appendix C "WETLANDS  MITIGATION PLAN"
 Pg. C-l, lines 13-18:
 "This policy requires  that  where Impacts to the wetlands are unavoidable, land
 must be provided  to offset  or  compensate for those Impacts.  At Alvlso, this
 means that wetlands must  be Identified to offset the loss of approximately 8
 acres of land to  the  levee  and the additional land lost due to the levee
 remediation.
 Comment
 If the U.S. F1sh  and  Wildlife  Service's mitigation policy Is to be observed, the
 specific statutory basis, and  all relevant Implementing regulations, should be
 presented as a cornerstone  of  the policy.  A reference to "policy" without
 providing specific authority as  the basis of the policy, 1s an inadequate
 foundation for exactions.   Citation to "policy" without citing authority,
 requires commenters to engage  in speculation as to the basis for the "policy,"
 and denies them the opportunity  to effectively challenge the policy.  Moreover,
 to  the extent that the creation of new wetlands 1s contemplated as a remedial
 requirement,   the U.S. Fish  and Wildlife Service should be required to present
 evidence that "conversion-1nto-wetlands" projects are effective, and that the
 uplands  loss  is justified.   The OUFS fails to address these points.  Until  it
 does,  it 1s  deficient.  Moreover, as pointed out earlier, the cited amount of
 lost wetlands, 8 acres, conflicts with a COE estimate of 4.2 acres lost by
 construction  of the levee.
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OUFS Comments

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  Contents Submitted by
State and Federal Agencies

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            United States Department of the Interior
                       FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE
                     Division of Ecological Services
                       2800 Cottage Way. Rra.E-1803
                      Sacramento, California 95825
                                              May 10, 1988


 Ms. Nancy Woo
 Program Manager  - South Bay Asbestos Site
 U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Region IX
 215 Fremont Street
 San Francisco, California 94105

 Subject:  South  Bay  Asbestos  Site Interim Clean-up Action  - Operable Unit
          Feasibility Study

 Dear Ms. Woo:

 It  is  our understanding that  the Environmental Protection Agency  is
 proposing a permanent solution to asbestos contamination resulting from the
 unauthorized Alvlso  Ring Levee as  noted In the  informational  filer
 accompanying the feasibility document.  Our earlier comments addressed
 Interim clean-up proposals.

 We are concerned about statements regarding the future of the unauthorized
 fill made In the document and the failure of  this effort to provide
 mitigation to  offset  wetland losses  Incurred  by placement  of the
 unauthorized  fill placed In 1983 or the clean-up efforts.  We are also
 concerned about  the  use of any  draft  technical information pertaining  to
 mitigation that  we provided earlier  for the temporary  solution proposed  by
 the  Environmental  Protection Agency  - the  emergency soil capping
 alternative.

 On page  3-15 the discussion of the off-site containment alternative
 contains  the sentence  stating that "After the levee  is removed and
 replaced, the levee would have  restricted use."  This statement Implies
 that replacement of the unauthorized levee Is a foregone conclusion.   It  Is
 not.   The asbestos clean-up program  does  not take the  place of the  public
 Interest review process required In the Corps of Engineers regulatory
program.

On page 4-5  the document references  the  Service's Mitigation  Policy and
 states that our mitigation goal for wetlands  Is no net  loss of in-kind
habitat values.  This Is Incorrect.   Our  mitigation goal Is no net loss  of
 in-kind wetland acreage or value (April 17,  1987 letter In Appendix C).
                                                  AIR DIVISION
                                               U.S. EPA, REGION 9
                                                  MAY 12 1988

                                               RECEIVED

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The  Service previously  provided comments and technical information on
interim clean-up proposals.    We  recommended  that   removal  of  the
unauthorized fill and restoration of wetland values  to  the area covered by
the  fill is the preferable solution from a fish and wildlife standpoint.
In addition,  we recommended  that  mitigation be provided  to offset the
interim loss of wetland values  for the  period the unauthorized fill  was in
place.  We continue to recommend removal  of  the material and  restoration of
wetland values and the provision of mitigation for the loss of wildlife
values that has occurred to date.   We also maintain that It  is necessary
for  the Environmental Protection Agency to initiate consultation under the
auspices of Section 7  of the Endangered  Species Act.

If you have any questions about  these response,  please contact Don Palawski
or Peggie Kohl at  (916) 978-4613.   If you have  any questions  on endangered
species Issues,  contact Peter Sorensen  at (916) 978-4866.
                                             Sincerely  yours,
                                             James  Jr. MCKevltt
                                             Field  Supervisor
cc:  Reg.  Dlr..  (APWE), FWS, Portland, OR
     Dlr.,  CDFG,  Sacramento, CA
     DOI.  San  Francisco    (Attn: Pat Port)
     COE,  San  Francisco District, San Francisco
     Reg.  Mgr.,  CDFG, Reg. Ill, Yountvllle
     DOI,  Solicitor. San Francisco
     SESO,  Sacramento

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                                       of  QIaltfi
                                    GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
                           OFFICE OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH
                                    14OO TENTH STREET
                                    SACRAMENTO 98814

GEORGE OEUKMEJIAN

      aow*w<0"                          (916)  323-7180



       DATE: M«y ??, 1988

       TO: Ms. Nancy Woo
           Environmental Protection Agency
           215 Fremont Street (T-^-3)
           San Francisco, CA 9^105
       PROM:  Office of Planning and Research
              State Clearinghouse


       RE: SCH 880U2901—Feasibility Study,  South S*y Arbestos Site, Ping Levee
                         Operable Unit.  Santa Clera County.
       As the designated California Single Point of Contact, pursuant to Executive
       Order 12372,  the Office of Planning and Research transmits attached comments
       as the State  Process  Recommendation.

       This recommendation la  a consensus; no opposing comments have been received.
       Initiation of the  "accommodate  or  explain"  response by  your agency  is,
       therefore, In effect.

       Sincerely,
       Ben A.  Williams
       Interim Director

       Attachment

       cc:  Applicant

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     Resources Building
      1416 Ninth Street
          95814
       (916) 445-5656
   TOO (916) 324-0804

  Tifornti Conservation Coroi
Department at Boiling ma Waterways
Department ot Conservation
Department ol Fun ana Game
Department of Forestry
Department ol Parks and Recreation
Department ot Water Resources
                                  GEORGE DEUKMEJIAN
                                     GOVERNOR OF
                                      CALIFORNIA
                       THE RESOURCES AGENCY OF CALIFORNIA
                               SACRAMENTO. CALIFORNIA
Air Resources 3o*ra
California Coastal Commission
Caii'ornia Tanoe Conservancy
California waste Management
  Board
Colorado River Board
Energy Resources Conservation
  And Development Commission
San Francisco Bay Conservation
  and Development Commission
Slate Coastal Conservancy
Slate Lands Division
Slate Reclamation Board
Slate Water Resources Control
  Board
Regional Water Quality
  Control Boards
Ms.  Nancy Woo
Environmental  Protection  Agency
215  Fremont Street (T-4-3)
San  Francisco,  CA 94105

Dear  Ms.  Woo:
                                                     May 25,  1988
          The State has reviewed the  Feasibility  Study, South Bay Asbestos Site,
          Ring Levee Operable Unit, Santa Clara County, submitted through the  Office
          of Planning and  Research.

          We coordinated review of this  document  with the  Air Resources Board, Waste
          Management Board,  San Francisco Bay  Regional Water Quality  Control Board,
          and the  Departments of Fish and Game, Health Services, Parks and Recreation,
          Transportation,  and Water Resources.

          The Department of  Fish and  Game and  the San Francisco Bay  Regional Water
          Quality  Control  Board have  prepared  the attached  comments  for your con-
          sideration.

          Because  properly packaged asbestos can  be disposed in non-hazardous  landfills,
          the Waste Management Board  would like to comment  on any landfilling  remedy
          that may be imposed if the  preferred alternatives are not  implemented.   Any
          questions regarding these comments should be directed to Michael Leaon  of  the
          Board's  Local Planning Division at (916) 322-2674.

          Thank you for providing an  opportunity  to review  this document.
                                                     Sincerely,
          Attachments  (2)

          cc: Office of Planning and  Research
                    (SCH 88042901)
                                                          *           -
                                                     Gordon F.  Snow, Ph.D
                                                     Assistant  Secretary for Resources

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                                                                        Agoncy
Memorandum
To
  The Honorable Gordon K.  Van.Vleck
  Secretary for Resources
  1416 Ninth Street
  Sacramento, CA  95814

  Attn:  Gordon F. Snow, Ph.  D
         Projects Coordinator
                                                 Data
May 25, 1988
From
Department of Fhh and Gam*
Subject:    South Bay Asbestos Site,  Ring Levee Operable Unit Feasibility
        Study, City of Alviso, Santa Clara County, SCH #88042901
        Department of Fish and Game (Department) personnel have reviewed
        the Operable Unit Feasibility Study South Bay Asbestos Site
        Interim Ring Levee, City of Alviso, Santa Clara County, SCH
        #88042901.  The study examines alternatives for remedying the
        unauthorized placement of asbestos-contaminated fill by the City
        of San Jose to create a levee around Alviso following flooding
        in 1983.  The placement of the levee resulted in the loss of
        approximately 4.2 acres of seasonal wetlands and transitional
        habitat.  Capping of the interim levee would result in the loss
        of an additional 4 acres of wetlands.

        It is the Department's policy that no project should result in
        a net loss of either wetland acreage or wetland habitat value.
        Any action taken to remedy the problems created by the interim
        levee should incorporate measures to offset the loss of wetlands
        from both the initial placement of the interim levees and any
        loss of wetlands which result froa the corrective action.  In
        addition, compensation should be provided for the loss of
        habitat values incurred since the interim levee was constructed.
        Because of the asbestos-contaminated nature of the dike and the
        fact that it was constructed without benefit of a Corps permit
        or any other public review process, we recommend removal of the
        dike and restoration of the impacted site to preproject
        conditions.  Further, a means of compensating for the temporary
        loss of wetland habitat values since the dike was constructed
        should be developed in consultation with the Department and the
        U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  Should the City of Alviso
        and/or the County of Santa Clara elect to construct a dike
        composed of nontoxic material, then such a project should be
        subject to the same public review criteria as any other similar
        project pursuant to the requirements of the California
        Environmental Quality Act, the National Environmental Policy
        Act, and the Corps of Engineers Section 404 permit program.

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                               -2-
Questions concerning our comments should be directed to Carl
Wilcox, Associate wildlife Biologist; or Theodore Wooster,
Environmental Services Supervisor, at (707) 944-5500.
                                  Pete Bontadelli
                                  Director
cc:  Peggy Kohl, U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service
     Corps of Engineers, San Francisco District

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CALIFORNIA REGIONAL WATBl QUALITY CONTROL BOARD
KAN FIANCUCO IAT KAON
1111
                                              May  137 1988
                                              File No. 2188.05mad

       Mr. Glenn Stober
       State Clearinghouse
       1400 Tenth Street Rm.  121
       Sacramento, CA  95814

       Dear Mr. Stober,

       Subject:   South  Bay  Asbestos Site, Ring  Levee Operable Unit
                  Feasibility Study, SCHI 88042901
                  Alviso, Santa Clara County

       This document evaluates alternatives for remedial action at  the
       interim ring  levee,  part of  the South  Bay Asbestos  CERCLA
       Superfund site in Alviso, California.

       We  have reviewed the  subject document and we have the following
       comments.

        (1)  The  Regional  Board* s  Basin Plan  requires  that  any
            application  for proposed  fill  activity  within  its
            regulatory jurisdiction include  mitigation located within
            the same section of the Region, wherever possible, so that
            there will be no net loss of wetland acreage and no net loss
            of wetland value when the  project and the mitigation lands
            are evaluated together. Since this project will  result in a
            loss  of wetland value, the Regional Board will  require
            mitigation.

        (2)  Section 404 of the Clean  Water Act requires a permit from
            the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers prior to the discharge of
            fill  material to waters of the United States. Under  Section
            401 of  the Clean Water Act, the Regional Board  must  certify
            that  Section 404 permits issued by the  Corps  comply with
            water quality standards established by the State.

        (3)  We have questions as to the  impacts of this project on water
            quality in the New Chicago Marsh. We would like to review
            management plans  for this area.

        Thank  you  for providing this opportunity to comment.  If
        any questions,  you can contact me at (415)  464-4268.
        Warifer Resource Control Engineer

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 Contents Submitted by
Other Interested Parties

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May 25, 1988
Ms Nancy Woo
Remedial Project Manger
U.S. Environmental  Protection Agency
215 Fremont Street  (T-4-3)
San Francisco,  CA  94105
Ret  South Bay Asbestos  Superfund Site


    Over the  five  years since asbestos was  discovered  in the Alviso
Ring Levee we  have  been presented  with numerous reports and attended
many meetings.   It  is  somewhat disconcerting that so much discussion
and  so  little action  has resulted.   As  frustration  levels  in the
community have increased  attendance  at your meetings and reiteration
of our preferences  has decreased.

    Nevertheless,  the  data supports our  original positions  on the
various  options, and our positions  have solidified.   Of  the  five
alternatives  presented  we wish  to make  comments  on each,  and  then
state a  preference  by  the order in which  we  comment.   From worst to
best they are as  followsi

          Option  1:  No  Action.   This is  clearly  unacceptable as it
          does not  solve the now-proven health  risk  problem.   It is,
          unfortunately,  the option which  is now in place through the
          inaction  of the  City of San Jose,  the  Santa Clara  County
          Water District,  the State of  California Department of Health
          Services,  and  the U.S.  Environmental Protection Agency.  It
          is  imperative  that this paralysis of inaction be cured, and
          this option be eliminated.

          Option  3s   The  Gunite Cover.   This  option  has  inherent
          disadvantages.    This first  is  that the asbestos  material
          will still be  present.  Leakage  and  cover deterioration will
          allow  asbestos  to   "escape"    from   under  the  cover,
          exacerbating  structural  weakness  and  so,  again,  allow
          further leakage.   The second  problem  is  aesthetic.   The
          -ring wall" will  attract graffiti.   With or without  this
          "public art",  the  wall will  be  ugly,  and  detract  from
          property  values.   In addition,  the lack of vegetative cover
          will no doubt present  serious problems  for the surrounding
          areas of  abundant but threatened wildlife.  This  is  not an
          acceptable alternative.

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                                        South Bay  Asbestos  Superfund
                                        Site


          Option 41  Combination soil and gunite  While this option is
          not  as  bad  as option  3,  it  does,  in  the  gunited  areas,
          present the  same  disadvantages.   This is made worse  by  the
          placement of  the  gunite areas in the most visible  areas  of
          the community.  The result  is  an unacceptable alternative.

          Option 2 i  Soil cover.   If installed  and planted correctly,
          this could be  an attractive improvement to the existing Ring
          Levee.   If the design  is  what the  engineers assume, this
          more  flexible cover  should  contain the  asbestos bearing
          material.  The questions that disturb us  are:   Can  such a
          cover be  installed correctly?   And how  durable will  the
          cover  be?   If  the design  is correct,  the installation
          correct, and  there  is no wear, then this is  a good option.
          The necessary assumptions are  questionable, however.

          Option  5t   Removal and replacement.   Oddly,  this was  the
          original  option  requested by the community  half a  decade
          ago.  It  was  not  proposed  at that time  because  of  the risk
          of exposure to dust during  removal.  That short terra problem
          no longer seems relevant after years of  low  level  exposure.
          The long term  risks would  be  completely  removed.   This will
          result in considerable peace of mind in  the community and a
          clear  end to the  problem.   The  new  ring  levee can  be
          constructed   in  the  proper  locations  (on   easements and
          outside of the Wildlife Refuge),  and to the  same  aesthetic
          and environmental  standards as the soil-cover  option,  and no
          longer  has  to be  taller  than  required  for basic   flood
          protection.    This  is by  fbf the  most  preferable of the
          options  presented.

    It must  be noted  that, while this option  was brought  up by a
member  of  the  community,  it  was not,   as  you  stated  in your
announcement  for  the   extended   comment  period,  announced  as  an
alternative by  EPA.   It has  long been  considered  and  presented, but
was conspicuous  by absence  from  your presentation  at  the April 28,
1988 meeting.

    It is our strong preference that Option  5 be implemented.   Option
2 appears acceptable, but does not appear to be  reliable.   Options 1,
3, and 4  are not acceptable,  and will be  strongly opposed.

    We remain concerned that the inertia of  inaction  will prevail, and
that the funding  available  will all  be spent on studies and  meetings
and analysis.  While we agree that incautious action  has placed  us all
in this  situation,  and  that discussion is  necessary  before action,
there must  be action taken in order for the problem to be rectified.

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    Five  years  of  consistent  test  results  and  expressions  of
preference by  the  community seem to be sufficient  to  demonstrate the
correct course of  action.   We urge you to take action  -  removing the
contamination and replacing the levee  - immediately.
Patiently your,
CraigJParada and Sharon Rice
1450 Wabash Street
P.O. Box 377
Alviso, CA  95002
cc: U.S. Senator Alan Cranston
    U.S. Senator Pete Wilson
    U.S. Represenatative Don  Edwards
    California Senator Alfred E. Alquist
    California Assemblyman  John Vasoncellos
    San Jose Councilwoman Shirley Lewis
(announcement attached)

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                     SOUTH BAY ASBESTOS SUPERFUND SITE
                                   Alvlso, California
                                     May 11,1988
       EPA ANNOUNCES ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVE BEING CONSIDERED
                     FOR CLEANING UP THE RING LEVEE AND
        EXTENDS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON STUDY UNTIL MAY 25th

As you know, the U.S» Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) released the "Operable Unit Feasibil-
ity Study" for the South Bay Asbestos Superfund Site on April 12,1988 for public comment. The
Feasibility Study evaluates alternatives for addressing the ring levee contamination In Alviso. The
four alternatives considered in detail for the ring levee are: (1) No action; (2) Covering the ring levee
with a soil cover; (3) Covering the ring levee with a gunite coven and (4) Covering the ring levee with
a combination of soil and gunite cover. This fourth alternative is EPA's preferred alternative.

At a community meeting held In Alviso on April 28th, 1988, EPA announced that there is a fifth
cleanup alternative that came into consideration  after releasing this report. This alternative involves
removing asbestos-contaminated fill from the old levee and replacing it with clean fill to form a new
levee. This alternative was ruled out as a viable alternative in the Feasibility Study due to the high
cost Involved if EPA conducted the action. Recently, however, two of the parties who are potentially
responsible for the contamination at the levee have indicated the possibility of their conducting this
levee removal and replacement.  Because the four alternatives that we looked at in detail did not
include this alternative and therefore was not put forth as an alternative on which we asked for your
    ment,  EPA decided to extend the comment period by two weeks and to solicit your input on this
    alternative, as well as the other four.

The Operable Unit Feasibility Study is available for your review at the two Information Repositories
listed on page 2; an April 1988 fact sheet summarizing this study Is also available at these locations.
                  EXTENDED COMMENT PERIOD : May 11th to May 25th
EPA has already received some comments on the Feasibility Study. These include comments made
at the April 28th community meeting. To ensure that all Interested parties have a chance to com-
ment on the four alternatives Initially considered, as well as on the new fifth alternative, the public
comment period has been extended for two weeks from May 11th to May 25th. This extension is not
expected to delay site cleanup activities.
                   •
Written-comments on the study and on all the alternatives should be submitted to:
                   1                   Nancy Woo
                                Remedial Project Manager
                           U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
                                215 Fremont Street (T-4-3)
                                San Francisco, CA 94105
    will consider all comments received during the comment period when selecting a final cleanup
      for the ring levee contamination.

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                          Brenda  Monroe
                        Post  Office  Box 82
                        1385  State   Street
                    Alviso,  California    95002
                          (408)   263-8871
May 2, 1988
U.S. Environmental  Protection  Agency
Attention:  Nancy Woo
            Remedial  Project  Manager
215  Fremont  Street
San Francisco,  California  94105
E.P.A.,

I am  very upset  about  this whole asbestos scare  in  Alviso.  I have
many  questions:

      •  Who discovered and reported  the  asbestos  content  in  the
        dirt?

      •  Why did the City of San Jose instruct the trucking  company
        who  hauled  the dirt to  get the dirt from  a pit that is "known"
        to have asbestos  laden  dirt,  even though there  are  pits closer
        to Alviso with  "clean"  dirt?

      •  Why does the city allow that pit with asbestos  laden dirt to
        remain open and  doing  business  if the dirt is so toxic?

      •  Why was it reported to the  media that Alviso is one of  the
        most toxic sites in California because of the levee  with
        asbestos  in it, when the pit  where the levee dirt came  from is
        worked  every  day with heavy  equipment and has  one
        thousand times  more dirt which  is tossed about in  the  air
        instead  of just sitting  there levee-like?

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      • Why didn't  the city  get  the damn dirt out of Alviso as soon  as
        they found  out what they  had done?

      • Why is so  much tax payer's  money  being  spent on project
        managers  and  community  relations  coordinators, and  time
        wasted  while  little kids whose parents  can't read may  be
        playing on  that levee that is  supposed to be so toxic?

      • Isn't it so that  much  of  the dirt in this  valley and up the
        peninsula  has  asbestos  in it?

      • Aren't  trucks  hauling  asbestos laden  dirt from a future
        freeway site in San  Jose,  without tarps,  to  the  same pit  that
        provided the dirt for the  Alviso ring levee?

      • What  is  going  on?
These  community meetings  and newsletters seem like  some  kind of a
smoke  screen  to  cover up what really is going on.
                                   Brenda  Monroe
                                   A Concerned Citizen

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May 4, 1988
Nancy Woo
Remedial Project Manager
U. S. Environmental Protection Agency
215 Fremont St.
San Francisco, CA  94105


RE:  EPA - MEETING OF 4-28-88
           Clean up Actions for Asbetos Contamination at Alviso, California


Nancy;

These are my comments and concerns regarding above;

     I.   LEVEE

         A.   I am wondering if the easements needed to obtain access for
             clean-up may still be in effect since levee was built in 1983,
             only five years ago.   Why do the easements cost so much?  On
             our property close to Sacramento, ATT wanted to pay us only
             $.50 per foot for a 20 foot easement onto our land.

         B.   What would action be  if levee needed emergency repair or we
             had another major flood?  Couldn't EPA just go onto the
             property to secure "environmental protection" and what makes
             this different?  Isn't there a health problem now that would
             be considered an emergency situation for the environment -
             for US!!  ?

             EPA says it has no authority or power to do anything by itself
             so if I  brought home  a fuel rod from a nuclear power plant,
             (Uranium 222),  you're telling me you wouldn't have someone
             remove it immediately?  I think this problem with the asbetos
             is just  as important.
     II.   HEALTH

        A.   I  request  that  Medical studies  of this area are  started.

             1.   Who  can I contact  to  request this?

             2.   Are  there are any  other  problems with water  or other
                 harmful materials  found  in  this  area?

        B.   At  the meeting,  several people  were  concerned  about the
             dust control problem from the trucking lots...
             I am from  Iowa  and if  a person  lives on a gravel or dirt  road

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              to control dust kicked up by  tractors,  trucks and  other
              vehicles we use oil.   Couldn't  a  coat be  put on the  dirt
              parking, lots?  I can't see  the  good  watering the streets
              and lots**** In a half an hour  during  the summer  that  water
              would have dried up and the problem  would still be there!!
              It's a  waste of time and water.

                  1.  What is the possibility of getting the  truck yards
                     to pave their  lots?   Are  there  any legal procedures
                     a  town could go through to try  to pass  some  control
                     over this?

      III.  SUMMERSET MOBILE HOME PARK

         A.   Please  contact owner of land  park is on to see  if  you can
              test for asbestos or provide  me with his/her phone number
              and address so I can contact  directly.

         B.   Contact person who owns property  directly in front of the
              mobile  home park, where trucks  are dumping rocks from some
              quarry.

         C.   While walking, we seen yellow flags  warning about  asbestos
              at  Summerset's front drive way  -  on  both  sides  (toward vacant
              lot  and toward Guadalupe River)

              1.   Please check for these flags  and see  what the  testing
                 was when these flags were put up.

              2.  When were the flags put there?

              3.  The area toward Guadalupe River  must  be county owned,
                  so  you should be able to  check there  without having
                  to  get permission.

      IV.  SOIL COVER

         A.   If  above is used to correct situation,  what erosion  problems
              can you forsee?

         B.   Has this alternative been used elsewhere  for same  problem?


I still don't understand why this matter is taking so  long!  Your sheet
of 4-28-88, Operable Unit Feasibility Study, South Bay Asbetos  Area Super-
fund  Site, Alviso, California states "A numeric risk characterization is
not necessay  for EPA to proceed with clean-up actions  at this site because
of the documented hazardous propensities of asbestos,  the documented existence
of asbetos in the study ajea»  and the documented  potential for  release of
that asbetos  into the air', yet you are still testing the soil to  see what

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you come up with.

JUST HOW BAD IS THIS — WILL WE EVER REALLY KNOW! !

Waiting for your response and your action.

Very truly yours,
Diane K. Hein          •
P.O. Box 604
Summerset Mobile Home Park // 303
Alviso, CA  95002
Work i 408/739-0934  X 207
Home // 408/945-8866

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    May 25,  1988

    Nancy  Woo
    Remedical Project Manager
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    215 Fremont Street (T-4-3)
    San Francisco, CA  94105

    Dear Ms.  Woo:

    I   am  writing regarding the alternatives   being  considered  for
    cleaning  up the Alviso levee that  is  contaminated by asbestos.

    The contaminated levees are not  only  an  environmental hazard they
    are   also   a  prodigious   architectural    (though   necessary)
    monstrosity.

    Our organization  is a long-time  Alviso based  community  health
    center   (founded in 1967) that has  invested inordinate  level of
    time,  resources, and services to  the  community and obviously have
    a  vested  interest in not only the  community's infrastructure  but
    also it's future.

    We wholeheartedly  support the   EPA  levee  asbestos  clean up
    campaign   of removing this  serious  health  hazard, and  urge   that
    this   go   forward expeditiously.   Procrastinations have  for  too
    long hindered resolving this environmental nightmare.

    We urge an asbestos clean up effort that will also include making
    the levees less obtrusive and hideous.

    We urge the complete removal of  asbestos contaminated fill and  a
    replacement  of clean fill  to form  a  new levee.  Furthermore,  we
    urge   that  the "new levee" be landscaped  with  trees  and   other
    greenery   with  walking  scenic  trails,  rest  areas,  and  proper
    paving  and drainage in order to  prevent mud run-off  during  the
    raining season.   We think that these  improvements will screen the
    obtrusion     of  the levees and  provide an opportunity  for  the
    Alviso  and  other  south   bay residents to  enjoy  some   of  the
    unique characteristics of our community.  Thank you.
      cerely,

   Roy Jimenez I
   Vice  President,  Capitated Health  Systems

   RJ:ic

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       Question and Answer Period of the






         April 28.  1988 Public Meeting






(Pages 30 through 66 of the Meeting Transcript)

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 1   we let Juliana catch her breath and Jill can catch her

 2   fingers.  So, we'll reconvene, then.

 3                             (Recess)

 4             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I think we should get back

 5   into this and see if we can answer your questions and

 6   listen to your comments.  So, if everybody could take a

 7   seat, maybe we can get started again.  Juliana, are you
   «
 8   ready?  We might not need this, but I'll keep it on, just in

 9   case.  Okay, it's now open for questions.  Who wants us to

10   answer the first question?

II             MR. GROSS:  I'll kick it off.  Bob Gross, for the

f2   record.  I better give you a written comment covering some

13   of these issues here, but I'd like to point out, I don't

14   know who did your land value and marketing research in yourl

15   study, but he must have been smoking marijuana because you

16   show, in your coraparables, that a home here may be worth

17   $24,000.00, based on your report.  I find that, you know, I

18   really find that maybe it's acceptable to EPA and the City

19   of San Jose, but not to people who own property here.

20        Another thing is, I'd like to know who is going to be

21   held accountable for this so called, "asbestos", quote,

22   unquote, in the ring levy that's on private property?

23             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Is that a question?

24             MR. GROSS:  That's a question.

25             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Okay, the question is, who is
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  1   responsible  for  the  portions  of  the  ring  levee  that are on
  2   private  property?
  3             MR. GROSS:   Right,  and to  follow  up with that, my
  4   question is, who is  going  to  do  to the  impact on  that real
  5   estate?   For example,  today in the Mercury  News,  the Mercury
  6   News,  this morning,  they got  a deal  here  how asbestos
  7   devalues properties.   Who  is  going to be  held accountable
  8   for  that?
  9             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  As far as we're concerned,
 jg   we're  responsible for  dealing with and  making sure that the
 II   asbestos in  those portions of the ring  levee on private
 12   property are controlled.
 13             MR. GROSS:   Okay, are  you  telling me  that if you
 14   come in  and cap  that on private  property  and I have a
 15   building that's  going  to be constructed there, I  can not
 K   break  that seal, and then  am  I going to be  held accountable
 17   for  the  asbestos that  is air  borne as a result of that?
 18             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  No, we're not going to tell
 19   you  that you can't break the  cover.
20             MR. GROSS:   You  didn't answer my  question. Am I
21   going  to be held accountable  if  I break that seal?
22             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Yes.
23             MR. GROSS:   But  you're on my  land and you didn't
24   have the authority to  come on there.  I just suggest this
25   and  I'm  going to tell  you  the general opinion of  the people
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 1   here  in Alviso:  Get the damn thing out.
 2            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  For those other people who
 3   have  portions of the ring levee on their property that we're
 4   going to be seeking easements for, as the owner of that
 5   property, you are responsible for that on your property.
 6            MR. GROSS:  Not if we didn't put it there.
 7            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That's —
 8            MR. GROSS:  Bullshit.
 9            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That doesn't mean you're the
10   only  person responsible.
11            MR. GROSS:  I know it.  I'm speaking for a lot of
12   other people tonight.  We didn't put it there.
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We know you didn't put it
14   there.
15            MR. GROSS:  Okay.
16            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We know who did put it there.
17   i think we all know that the City of San Jose is responsible
18   for putting that serpentine rock and soil on whosever
19   property it happens to be on.   We also know that easements
20   weren't necessarily obtained in all cases.  So, we know —
21    EPA is not an agency that assigns liability.  We identify
22   those responsible parties who might be potentially
23   responsible, but it's a court that actually makes a decision
24   as to who's liable.  All I can say is, if you own property
25   that has hazardous material on it, as an owner of that
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 I   property, whether you put  it on or not, you're considered
 2   potentially  liable.  We're not going to make the decision.
 3   The court will make that decision.  That's not our decision.
 4       Yes, sir?  could you please state your name, for the
 5   record?
 6            MR. SHOCKLEY:  Dave Shockley. (phonetic)  Why is
 7   it that this ring levee has got so much asbestos in it that
 g   I've hauled out of that pit down there, all over this valley
 9   and this is  the only one that's getting goofed about it.
10            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The question is, that this
It   gentleman has hauled other truck loads of soil out of the
12   same quarry, the Raisch Quarry, that the material from the
13   Alviso ring levee was drawn from, and he's moved it to other
14   places in the Santa Clara Valley besides the town of Alviso.
15   Why are we just worried about Alviso and why aren't we
16   dealing with the other portions, the way it's asked.  The
17   simple answer is that we know where it is in Alviso, but we
tg   don't know where else it is in the valley.
19            MR. SHOCKLEY:  Come to me and I can take you to a
20   l°t of places.
21             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  This gentleman in the white
22   had a question?
23            MR. ZANGER:  No, I didn't have a question.  I had
24   a statement.  Earl Zanger is the name.  If you had a map of
25   those locations, what would your actions be?
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 1             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The question is, if we had aj
 2   map of where the other soils from the quarry had been
 3   disposed, what would we do about it?
 4             MR. ZANGER:  Would they expand the site location?
 5             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  No, we wouldn't expand the
 6   site location.
 7             MR. ZANGER:   The material is from the same
 8   source.
 9             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  What we probably would do is
10   ask the state or the city or the county to do some
11   investigating of the different sites that the soil was
12   disposed at and make an assessment to whether or not they
13   thought any of those situations warranted EPA involvement.
14   If they did, we would probably look into it.  Yes?
15             MS. CARROT:  Where is the site of the quarry?
16             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The question is, where is the
17   site of the quarry.  I might look to Nancy to maybe point
18   that out on the map.  Can I get your name, please, for the
19   record?
20             MS. CARROT:  LaVonne Carrot.  (phonetic)
21             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We don't have a map that shows
22   that?
23             MR. ZANGER:  Give us the street, an area, where it
24   is at, cross street, something.
25             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Nancy?
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 1            MS. WOO:   I  can get  the answer in a couple of
 2  minutes.
 3            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   Okay, we'll get the answer.
 4  We don't have it at  the  tip of our tongue.  Sir, do you know
 5  right offhand?  Could  you describe where it's at right now?
 6            MR. SHOCKLEY:  I want you guys to get it out.
 7            MS CARROTT:  I think they're on our side, not our
 8  enemies.  They're trying to help out.
 9            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   Thank you.  Tom
10            MR. ARY:   My name is Tom Ary. (phonetic)   I'd like
II  to ask about some of the alternatives.  I agree, there are
12  some basic problems  you'll have to address as well, but on
13  this gunite cover, it  suggests that it would increase the
14  flood function and erosion resistance to the levee.  I
15  wondered if it's only  going to add two inches versus the
16  soil cover, which is going to  add eighteen, how that would
17  reduce much in the way of a flood hazard.  That's the first
13  question.  I got a couple.
19            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   The question, I believe, is,
20  where we have proposed to put gunite, we are only looking at
21   a two-inch increase  in height?
22            MR. ARY:   Yeah.
23            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  And how is that going to
24  better fend off a flood or fend off a flood, as well as the
25  eighteen-inch soil cover.  Do you want to take a shot at
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 1   this, Greg?
 2            MR. BAKER:  You're correct in pointing out that as
 3   far as the height of the flood, the gunite cover would not
 4   resist, say, a flood that was of a higher elevation than the
 5   existing ring levee.  The point of that comment in the
 6   Feasibility Study is that the gunite material is more
 7   resistant to erosion.
 8            MR. ARY:  What kind of flow — that's my second
 9   question, what kind of flow do you expect coming in across
10   the flat lands of lower Santa Clara valley?
11            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The thing is that there are
12   portions of the ring levee that are enclosed.  I think it's
13   a point on the ring levee where they would want to reinforce.-
14   them with gunite as opposed to soil, are those areas where
15   there is a corner or bend that's considered to be more
16   susceptible to erosion at the main face of the levee.
17   Certainly, we're not talking about a river, we're talking
18   about a sheet flow, title flow.
19            UNIDENTIFIED:  During the '82 floods.
20            UNIDENTIFIED:  I was here, tell me about it.
21             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  This is Sarah Black and she's
22   a consultant working for us on this and she probably has
23  more of the technical details.  Sarah?
24            MS. BLACK:  Well, the thought that we wre
25   trying to convey was that, for instance, during the '83
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 1   flood  the water depth was probably higher than your ring
 2   levee  and the gunite would simply prevent erosion or washing
 3   as  the water rose and washed over the levee.
 4            UNIDENTIFIED:  But if it washes over, then the
 5   levee  isn't any good, anyway.  So, what do you care about
     erosion?  It's already no good.  Aside from those little
     details, where are you going to put the gunite?  In other
     words, I don't think the gunite is much improvement over
     soil,  over most of the area and if the levee remains,  I
10   think  most people would vote for soil cover throughout
11   because you're only going to save, on a combination, you're
12   going  to save $7,000.00.
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Yeah. I agree.  In fact, what
14   we would have liked to have done is — and this is still up
IS   for discussion because we haven't1 actually made a decision
16   on this — would be to use soil for, as much of it, if not
     all of it that we could.  That's sort of —  we heard  that
     in the past public meetings that that's what the community
     wanted and we think that's the way to go.   There are some
     other constraints with certain portions of the ring levee
21    that make it very difficult for us to use a soil cover in
22   those areas.  Greg, did you actually describe which areas?
23  Do we know that the areas that are most likely to,  that are
    most difficult to use soil at?
25            MS.  WOO:  These are the areas,  right there,  where
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 1   we would have difficulty getting the large earth movers in.
 2   So,  that's the area that we're thinking about gunite
 3   cover, but, you know, based on public comment, that may
 4   change.
 5            UNIDENTIFIED:  Excuse me, you're going to gunite
 6   in that spot?  There's a lot of room to work there, and I'd
 7   like to point something out, as Doctor Harvey pointed out
 8   earlier.  Those of us who were here in Alviso, if the ring
 9   levee was in position, the ring levee would be higher than
10   the  flood waters in 1983 — I think they were lower, I'm
II   sorry.  The ring levee was at a higher elevation than the
12   actual water.  The ring levee is higher than the water that
13   was  in here.  It would have protected us and another thing,
14   too, when we talk about hydraulogy I think a real close
15   analysis has to be made of that because the sheet flows came
16   basically from this direction, here, and I agree with Doctor
17   Harvey that if there is that much energy there, then you
18   might as well kiss the whole thing goodbye.  A little gunite
19   isn't going to do a bit of good.            :
20            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Bob, Nancy tells me this is
21    something we didn't address quite fully and we're going to
22   try  and do that before you leave here tonight.  The question
23   earlier was, where is the Raisch Quarry, that this stuff
24   cane there.  It's off Old Monterey road, near .the
25   fairgrounds and it's a part of Communication Hill.  I don't
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 2   know where  that  is, exactly.  If it would help to point that
 3   out on a piece of paper or a map for somebody, we should do
 4   that.  So,  if  there are people, I can't remember who asked
 5   the question, but we could do that for you and if you leave
 6   your name and address, we could get that for you.
 7             UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, if this trailer court is put
 8   in on  that  old quarry, the quarry is closed down now, but
 9   the trailer court is put in there.  How come they're not
10   under  asbestos deals?
II             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  There's  a mobile home court?
12             UNIDENTIFIED:  Mobile home court, yeah.
13             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  On the Raisch Quarry?
14             UNIDENTIFIED:  Yeah. The quarry is closed down.
15             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I thought there were two
16   quarries.   I thought the Raisch Quarry was still in
'7   operation.  That's not true?  Is the Raisch Quarry still in
18   operation?  Do we know?
19             MS. WOO:  It is still in operation.
20             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The Raisch Quarry is still in
21   operation.
22             UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, part of the quarry isn't,  the
23   part where that mobile home court is.
24             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Well,  actually, we don't know
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  2   community of Alviso.   if there are other sites out there,
  3   we'll  take a look.
  4             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  la there anybody in the
  5   audience  who happens  to know whether or not it's the Raisch
  6   quarry that has  the  trailer park on top, as a pat of the
  7   quarry?  Okay, no.  We have been taking a lot of questions
  8   from those of  you who speak English because I speak English
  9   and that's pretty easy.  I'd like to ask, in particular, if
10   there's anybody  who has a head set on that would like to ask
11   a question and if you would like to ask a question and if
12   you would like to make a comment, if you'd raise your hand,
13   we'll  get the microphone to you and we'll get the translator
14   and we can get a response to any questions you might have.
15   Yes, sir,  the gentleman in back?  If you could please state
16   your name before you ask a question, that would be
17   appreciated.
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19             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Is the question, why is it
20   taking us so long to put it — okay, the question — thank
21   you sic.   I think I understand.  There are two questions.
22   one is, in the past, other people have put, maybe the City
23   of San Jose, the levee is there now, in a matter of seventy-
24   two hours.  Why  is it taking us so long.  That's a
25   legitimate  question.
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 2             CHAIRMAN  CLIFFORD:   If  we  could have  simply made
 3   the  decision  to build  another  levee  without doing the
 *   studying  and  without doing  the analysis and without
 5   coordinating  with all  the agencies that we had  to coordinate
 6   with, without presenting  in the document that we should
 1   present to the community  for public  comment, we, too,
 8   probably  could have been  able  to  do  it quite a  bit quicker
 9   than we're taking now.  Unfortunately, we have  a very
 10   cumbersome process  that we're  forced to go through to make
 11   sure that we  are making the right decision, that increasing
 12   the  size  of the  levee  is warranted,  and to make sure that
 13   the  design of  the levee is  going  to  be something that's
 14   acceptable to  the community.   That's why we've put together
 15   this document  that's about  three  inches thick and it's taken
 16   us about  a year and  a half  to  complete.  Frankly, I would
 17   have liked to  have done something much quicker than this,
 1*   too, myself.
 19       Let's  see, there was a second part of that question.
20   in addition to why it took  so  long — oh, the second
21    question  is, why can't we just dig it up and take it away,
22   just as easy as we could build another levee on top of it.
23   The  problem we face wi.th digging  it up and taking it away is
24   the  cost of digging it up,  the cost  of disposing it in a
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          UNIDENTIFIED:  Where are you going to put it, i
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          CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  And, where would we have to
take it to in order to dispose of it, as this lady
mentioned.  Given those concerns, when we did our analysis
on — I can't remember, and maybe Nancy or Sarah could help
me here —the cost of removing the levee was, I believe,
around nine million dollars, nine or ten million dollars.
     Yes, madam?
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          CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  You didn't have any problems
with floods before the ring levee was put there?
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          UNIDENTIFIED:  It's been flooding since 1777, on
the record in Alviso.
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          CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I'm not sure how I can respond
to that.  I think we have records that it actually had
flooded several times prior to the flood of '83.
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          CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Do we have specific dates of
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 2   side as  opposed  from  the Bay side and from Anderson's Dam.
 3   Torn, being one of the ones that are probably more familiar
 4   with this, with  the flooding here, is that your
 5   understanding of where the floods —
 6            UNIDENTIFIED:  People that have lived there for a
 7   long time know that it was flooded — one of the levees were
 8   put along the Guadalupe and that got leveed again pretty
 9   well and the last one, the '83 was from  the Coyote flood.
10   When did it flood?  Help me with the dates, '56 or
II   somewhere?  Those of you who have lived  here longer.  I
12   mean, come on, Gross.
13            MR. GROSS:  1982 we took water here from Coyote
14   Creek.  Guadalupe was reconstructed over a period of years
15   and water did come in here, but Coyote Creek flooded us in
16   1982 and 1983 and in  '82 it over-topped  behind Agnes State
17   Hospital and over here by the Old Standish Ranch.  In '83,
IS   it pretty well was contained behind the  hospital and it came
19   through on the Standish Ranch, back through the sewage
20   treatment plant and into Alviso.  That was March of '83.
21    Again, I'd like the record corrected in  your book; we did
22   take water in 1982.
23            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   Thank you, Mr. Gross.  I think
24   that the specific years that the town of Alviso flooded is
25   not one of the things that we're here to try to address.
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 2  potential flooding might occur here.  Our job here is to try
 3  to eliminate or reduce the risk of asbestos exposure, part
 4  of which is the result of that asbestos that is contained in
 5  a material the ring levee is now made of.  That's why we've
 6  developed these options and that's what we'd like to hear
 7  your comments on.  We do feel that something needs %to be
 8  done with the ring levee and this is our proposal on the
 9  kinds of things that could be done to fix that problem.
10       Yes?
11            MS. HINES:  Have any medical studies been done in
12  this area?
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Diane Hines,  the question is,
14  have any medical studies been done in the area and to my
15  knowledge, there hasn't been any done on the Alviso
16  population as it relates to asbestos.  There was a question
17  in the back?  Yes,  Jim?
18           UNIDENTIFIED:  We talked earlier about from the
19  very beginning, I was interested in what the problem might
20  be.  The community, from the very beginning, wasn't too hep
21  on EPA entering here and that language complained about the
22  dust from the trucks and all the stuff we've had to eat that
23  was in the air from the dust that the trucks picked up.
24  That problem, to this date, has not been corrected.  Now, I
25  heard from Ms. Woo, or one of the young
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 2   water  their  lots down  now  and then.  But  that doesn't
 3   correct the  problem.   So,  if you're  here  to correct
 4   something, why don't you correct  it?  The ring levee was
 5   something which was put in by the City, which is something,
 6   as  far as I'm concerned, should be between you and the City
 7   and not the  community  because, evidently, we don't have
 8   anything to  say about  it,  period.  But, the dust, I think we
 9   should have  something  to say about because that affects us,
10   directly, on a daily basis and nothing has been done,
II   period,  not  anything has been done.  Now, you've had plenty
12   of  time to do something about the dust.
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I agree.
14            UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, if you agree, why don't we do
15   something?
16            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I don't have a good answer for
17   that,  Jim.    I know we actually committed to the past
18   meetings, to deal with that truck yard dust issue.  We
19   haven't done  it.  I'm not  exactly sure what that reason is.
20   Do  we  have a  reason?
21             UNIDENTIFIED:  Can Ms. Woo comment on it a little
22   bit?   I  think she was the  one that mentioned that something
23   should be said to the trucking people about the job.
24            MS. WOO:  We have talked to the truck yard
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 2            MS. WOO:  Okay, what we did was, we went in there



 3  and collected samples from the various truck yards along



 4  State Street.  One of the problems we're having is actually



 5  analyzing for asbestos in the soil.  It's incredibly



 6  difficult to get an accurate measure of the asbestos in



 7  soil.  That's one of the problems we're having throughout



 8  the entire site.  So, we had to re-analyze the asbestos



 9  samples collected from the truck yards, twice.  Now that we



10  have a positive identification of the asbestos concentration



11  in the soil, that last month I sent out about six or seven



12  letters, all to truck yard owners that had asbestos in their



13  truck yards telling them the concentrations in the soil and



14  suggesting that they water down their yards, periodically.



15  Now, I know that's not very much, but it is our next area



16  targeted for action.



17            UNIDENTIFIED:  That doesn't make a whole lot of



18  sense, with all the money you've been spending, and going



19  through the whole program, as far as we've gone, it doesn't



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21   care of, Jerry, you and your group, from day one.  We don* t



22  have to wait this long to take care of the dust.  If the



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 2             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We committed to do something
 3   about the truck yards and we didn't.  The reason we didn't
 4   is we haven't been able — we don't have the authority, just
 5   because there's dust there, and order somebody to do
 6   something.  We have to draw the connection between the
 7   amount of asbestos that's in the dust that's in the air,
 8   that's where we have the difficulty, on that connection.
 9   Let me just ask Nancy.
10             UNIDENTIFIED:  Can the community help you to do
It   something about that?  We're here as a community, right?
12             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Right.
13             UNIDENTIFIED: Can we get together and do something
14   about it?
15             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD;  In terras of helping us get  the
16   information —
17             UNIDENTIFIED:  Controlling the dust, controlling
18   the dust and the asbestos in the air.  I mean, we're here,
19   all at once to contribute towards the one cause, right, keep
20   asbestos down.
21             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Yes.
22             UNIDENTIFIED:  Can we do that?
23             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I don't know.  I don't have
24   any ideas on how to — we could help with the truck
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 3  certainly hose down the dust along, right outside of
 4  their —
 5            UNIDENTIFIED:  We're suffering a water shortage
 *  right now.  Do you want us to go out and blow the water?
 1  Let's put it together.  Let's do it together.
 8            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Jim, we got to own up to this
 9  responsibility and we've not performed here and that's
10  obvious.  What I will commit to do is talk to our attornies
11  to see if there's something other than the letter that we've
12  sent suggesting they do something, that we can force the
13  truck yards to deal with the dust problem.  All I can say is
14  I can't promise anything because I don't know from —
15            UNIDENTIFIED:  Jerry, we don't want to wait until
16  spring.  I don't think I've missed very many meetings.  I've
17  been to virtually every one, and every time I've been here,
18  we've talked about the same thing.  It's not that big a deal
19  to hold the dust down. It's not that big a problem.
20            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  You're right; it's not that
21   big a problem.  What's a problem is having the justification
22  from a legal standpoint to force somebody to do something
23  about it.
24            UNIDENTIFIED:  You have the legal powers to come
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 2   doing.  So, we come here to find out just what's going on
 3   and we have no control over what you're doing.  That's not
 4   right.  Now, if you want the community to be part of what's
 5   going on, let us be part of it and you do something to help
 6   us.
 7             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD;  I will get back to you in a
 8   week and let you know what we can do with the truck yards.
 9   I can't do any more than that right now because I haven't
10   talked to my attorney.
11             UNIDENTIFIED:  One week, huh?
12             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  One week.  I'll let you know,
13   in a week, what we're able to do.
14             UNIDENTIFIED:  I hope you have a lot of power.
15             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Well, the answer to that may
16   be, we don't have enough information to take action against
17   the truck yards.
18             UNIDENTIFIED:  The Super funds can come into power
19   some place, even if they have to wet the truck yards down.
20   if it's that important, the asbestos here is that great,
21   you'd certainly be able to, even if you have to supply the
22   water to the truck yards.
23             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I agree.   If we're able to
24   document that the problem associated with the truck yards
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 1             UNIDENTIFIED:  You've  taken  samples from the
 2   homes;  you've  taken samples from the yards.
 3             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Right.
 4             UNIDENTIFIED:  And now the asbestos is located
 5   within  the ring levee which was brought in under a certain
 6   instance  that  we had no control over and now the dust that
 7   blows off thre  ring levee, evidently, is the contamination we
 8   have with the  asbestos.
 9             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That's part of the
10   contamination.
11             UNIDENTIFIED:  Part, but if  we hold it down, if it
12   takes water  to hold it down, it washes down the drain, it's
13   gone; we  don't have to breath it, do we?
14             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That's right.
15             UNIDENTIFIED:  I think if you've got money to
16   continue,  the  way you've been going here, there's enough in
17   there to  put water over the dust.
18             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  It's not a matter of money.
19             UNIDENTIFIED:  Then, let's do something about the
20   dust.   That's  the contamination that we have to breathe.
21              CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  I agree.
22             UNIDENTIFIED:  If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong and
23   I'll sit  down  and I'll shut up and I won't come back again.
24             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  You're absolutely right,
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 2  legal basis to take some action and that's what I'm
 3  committing to you to get back to you in a week and let you
 *  know whether or not we have that basis.
 5            UNIDENTIFIED:  One of our last meetings, we had
 6  the saying that EPA stopped the City of San Jose from
 7  sweeping the streets out here, or that's what I was told by
 8  the street sweeping, the head of it, whatever they are.
 9  Okay, which is the worst?  To have  the street sweeper come
10  through once or twice a month or every two months or
11  whatever he does, or every time a truck goes down the road,
12  a bus or a car, the dust falls.  You can't even see people
13  across the street.  We're talking mostly about State Street.
14            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The question is, we had the
15  City of San Jose stop street seeping with their sweepers
16  because of the amount of dust it was generating and because
17  or the content of the dust, the asbestos content of dust on
18  the road.  The question is, how does that risk the health of
19  the residents of Alviso compared to the risk posed by trucks
20  and cars driving up and down the same street.  In terms of
21   comparison, the exposure from whatever dust is generated by
22  cars and trucks is every bit as much a problem as that
23  generated by the street sweepers.
24            UNIDENTIFIED:  And by leaving it sit on the
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by leaving it sit on the street all the time.   The  answer  to
that is yes, you're absolutely right,  that it's a problem
that, in the short-term, we don't have a lot of good  ideas
of how to deal with it.
          UNIDENTIFIED:   Why did you have, the  City  stop
sweeping the street?  I  asked the City guy down here  at  the
last meeting.
          CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   Oh, I see the question  now.
The question — I didn't understand — the question was, was
it worse to leave the dust on the streets ad allow  cars  to
kick it up and generate  a problem or was it worse to  have
the street sweepers, as  they were sweeping it  up, generate
the problem.  I think at the time, we thought  that  much  of
the asbestos that was in the road along State  Street,
Spreckles and Grand was  a lot of what was being washed off
the ring levee and onto  the streets opposed to that as being
carried by trucks onto the streets, and that we thought  by
keeping the street sweepers off until we were  able  to pave
the levee, and cover it  permanently, was the best thing  we
could do.  We had thought at the time, we were going  to  be
able to take that action much more quickly than we  have, in
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           UNIDENTIFIED:  Why  can't you  just get  the  street
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           CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   We  could;  I'm sure.  I guess
 you raise a good point.  What we  need to do is take  a  look
 at the benefit of not  having  the  street sweepers  on  there
 against the increased  risks of the dust building  up  on the
 roads.   Nancy, do you  have anything to  add  to that?
           MS.  WOO:  One thing that I can add is  that when
 we're doing our  activities specifics, sampling in the  next
 three weeks, you'll see me out there, pulling —
           UNIDENTIFIED:  Come on  out there  without a cover
 on and get that dust and then you will  change your mind.
           MS.  WOO:  But, I think  we'll  have an answer  real
 soon.   Like Jerry said, we will get back to you and he
 did make  the commitment that  he would get back to you,
 Mr.  —
           UNIDENTIFIED:  If I may, maybe  the watering of the
 truck yard may be more of a hazard to us than just the dust
 because  the  trucks, if the yard is wet, are going to pick up
 the mud, bring it on the streets for the busses and trucks
 to re-distribute to the neighbors.  You've got kind of a
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 2   if  the  trucks, you know, are picking up the dust generating
 3   throughout  the entire community, the entire community would
 4   have  a  problem.
 5            UNIDENTIFIED:  What is EPA's input, please.  What
 6   is  the  definition of EPA?
 7            MS. WOO:  Environmental Protection Agency.
 8            UNIDENTIFIED:  Okay, well, our control is out of
 9   hands.  There's a lot of dust, a hell of a lot of dust.
10   Whether it  has asbestos in it or not, it's out of control.
11   It's  not where it should be and if you people can control
12   the environment, let's do it.  We're the community that
13   you're  talking to and we don't have any control over our
14   environment.  If you're here, you should give us some help.1
15            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Jim, to the extent, we can't
16   exercise control over asbestos or any other hazardous
17   substance that's found within the town of Alviso.
1*            UNIDENTIFIED:  Anything other than clean air,
19   Jerry,  is hazardous to our health, isn't it?
20            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD: That's true.
21             UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, it's a hazard.
22            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  But it's not within the
23   constraints that we have, does not allow us to deal with
24   dust, generically.  That's a constraint that we have where
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  1            UNIDENTIFIED:   But you're working in a community
  2   that's  already  been contaminated, supposedly, otherwise,
  3   you wouldn't  be here.  So,  there, we have a reason, I would
  *   think.
  5            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We have a reason and when we
  $   finish  our broader study, we'll be able to decide whether or
  1   not there's an  action  that's actually warranted with respect
  8   to the  asbestos.
  9            UNIDENTIFIED:   There are more people in this
10   community here  that can  tell you about the community, what's
II.  underground,  all around  the ground, and how much dirt we eat
12   and how much  we sweep  and wipe off our furniture on a daily
13   basis,  than you'll ever  learn in an office conducting all
14   your studies  or your bicycle or whatever.  We live here.
15   This is part  of our community and we're only here because we
16   want to make  it better and  you're only representing us to
17   make it better.  It doesn't seem to me like the time that
18   you've  taken  you you've  done any good.  It really doesn't.
19   what have you done for us,  since you've been here, really?
20            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The only thing that I can
21   think of that we've actually done is we've managed to seal
22   the ring levee  to reduce  the amount of asbestos that's
23   coming  off.   In the interim, we finalized our study and
24   documented that something actually needs to be done.  We
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 2   spreckles Avenue when we found high levels of asbestos, some
 3   of which was the result of the ring levee extended down past
 4   the paved portion.  We paved a lot behind the George Maine
 5   School that we had found contained the same types surpentine
 6   in asbestos as that composed ring levee.  We paved that.
 7        We also found similar material out by the Environmental
 8   Education Center and we have been able to cover that
 9   effectively.  So, we actually have done something.  Lately,
10   we haven't done a lot and we explained tonight, obviously
11   not to the satisfaction of our — or some of the other
12   people here, but there are reasons, not excuses, there are
13   reasons why we haven't been able to do something with the
14   ring levee.  Frankly, I don't have a real good reason, nor(
15   do I have a real good excuse for why we haven't done
16   something with the truck yards, but I've committed to look
17   into it and get back with you.  That's all I can do with the
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19             UNIDENTIFIED:  What is the purpose of our meeting?
20             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The purpose of the meeting
21   tonight —
22             UNIDENTIFIED:  Or any night.  You said several
23   meetings.  What's been the purpose of our meetings.
24             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD;  Is to keep those of you
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 1  we're doing, to solicit input and comment, a lot
 2  of what we get tonight, a lot of it from you, as to what
 3  your concerns are.  Frankly, if you had not raised the truck
 *  level, or dust issue or this gentleman not raised the truck
 5  level issue again, I probably wouldn't have thought about
 6  it.  It would not have been the first and foremost on my
 7  mind.  The ring levee is foremost on my mind.  I probably
 8  wouldn't have thought of it.  So, I appreciate those of you
 9  who raised that because I still agree it's something we
10  should deal with.
II            UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, you're concerned with our
12  health; is that true?
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That's true.
14            UNIDENTIFIED:  All right, well, what about this
15  dust that blows all the time?  Is that unhealthy?
16            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Dust is unhealthy.  There's
17  not a question there.  Unfortunately, the laws that give us
H  the authority to deal with what we're dealing with are not
19  broad enough to allow us to deal with dust in and of itself.
20  The City of San Jose, the County of Santa Clara, they have
21   the authority to pass local ordinances to control dust
22  levels; we don't at EPA.  So, in terms of what the community
23  could do to control dust levels or not,  the stuff you're
24  talking in your own terms of water or seeding and making
25  sure the grass is growing to keep the dust down, the only
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 I   other  thing  I'm aware of that's within your control is to
 2   petition  the City of San Jose that would pass an ordinance
 3   that would restrict the amount of dust on these truck yards,
 4   regardless of the asbestos levels.  That's something the
 5   City of San Jose has the authority to do and I believe the
 6   County of Santa Clara also has the authority.   So, there's
 7   two governmental bodies that have responsibility.  You have
 8   a right to appeal and go to them and ask them to do
 9   something about it.
10            UNIDENTIFIED:  Excuse me, you lost me.  Did I hear
II   correctly that the EPA gave the City of San Jose
12   instructions to stop street sweeping?
13            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Yes, that's correct.
14            UNIDENTIFIED:  Well, it seems to me, if you've go
15   the authority to do that, it's obvious you must have other
16   authority.
17            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That's correct.  We didn't use
18   our authority.  We used the information that we had
19   collected to date and we went to the City of San Jose and
20   asked  them if they would stop doing it.  We didn't force
21    them to stop doing it.  We asked them to stop doing it.
22            UNIDENTIFIED:  But they probably did it because
23   they didn't want to spend money in the community.  They had
24   nothing to do with the health.
25            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Maybe they didn't.  The net
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 1   result  is,  they  stopped  at  our  request  because we thought
 2   this  was  the  best  thing  for  the people  of  the city, the
 3   town  of Alviso.
              UNIDENTIFIED:  Awfully confusing.
              UNIDENTIFIED:  I  know I'm beating a dead horse,
     but bear  with me.   I gather  there's asbestos in the dust in
 7   the streets and  that's the  concern for  suggesting that they
 8   stop  being  swept.   Was that  the initial concern about this
 9   street  sweeping?
10            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  That was  our concern, yes.
1!            UNIDENTIFIED:  Have the results  indicated that it
12   is a  concern  that  there's enough asbestos  contaminated in
13   the street  dust  to try to deep  it down?
14                   CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  We  found, to tell you
15   the truth,  what  we found was low levels of asbestos in the
16   street  dust.  People had complained about  dust and the
     street  sweepers  were something  that, where people in this
     community and past meetings  that said if there's asbestos in
     the dust, why are  we allowing the City  of  San Jose to
20   continue  street  sweeping.   So, we asked them to stop.  Now,
21    whether or  not there's enough asbestos  in  the street dust
22   that's  getting into the  air  that warrants  some longer term
23   fix,  we haven't  got enough  information  to  conclude that,
24   yet.  That  will  be included, we'll make that finding, based
25   on the  longer term study.  Nancy mentioned we would have
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 1   results at the end of September.  So, we should know,  by     I
 2   that  time, whether or not the asbestos levels in the street
 3   dust, in combination with the other areas around the town
     that  have asbestos in pockets that have a mechanism to get
 5   that  asbestos in the air, whether contamination, in total
 6   warrants taking any further action, other than what we're
     proposing on the ring levee.  Right now, I don't have  that
     answer.
              UNIDENTIFIED:  Yet, we got to go another six
10   months with breathing this dust down the streets, huh?
M            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  Yes.
12            UNIDENTIFIED:  You're not being fair to us,
13   really.
14            UNIDENTIFIED:  Isn't there a way to wet sweep it?
15   in the last couple years, there's been absolutely no street
     cleaning by any public works department at all.  I gather
     it's  been done on some honest concerns of not trying to stir
     up additional problems, street sweeping and stuff.  If we,
     after all the partners can't come to a conclusion that
20   there's enough hazardous material there to be a concern,
21    there must not be all that much there, or is that a far  :
22   fetched conclusion?
23            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  No, but the issue is not —
24   what's complicated about asbestos is that isn't very
25   difficult to draw the connection between what's in the soil,
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 1   what can get into the air,'versus what"actually stays  in  the
 2   air  long enough for people'to "breathe and'then quantifying
 3   that so that we can actually determine how much"" of a health
 ,4   problem that'is.  Believe me,"- as 'frustrated 'as'"every one'"fa
 :5   here with the progress we're mak'ing on this, "we1're equally
 '.<   as frustrated.-. This is-not the ;only asbe'stds'site'we'have.
 ^   We have ;.three that we're working'on through"'California.  '
 8   This is the only one in a'residential/ the "one that's — I
 9   guess it's not the only — -   ' '••  '  -   . •  .    -     . . -  .
 10         .  .  UNIDENTIFIED: ' We're concerned here, Jerry. "Come
 I!   on,  keep it here.      •  r-. .->•:.-.•  :..-   -   -     - :•  ....-•  ..  ir..
 12           '  CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   Our problems are the same
 13   problems in all these different'sites.'  It's' extremely
 14   difficult,  without getting into technical" aspects of why
 15   it's difficult, it's awkward  for me to try to explain how
 K   difficult it. is.   I could try to do that,  if there are  -'
 17  people here,  and it's probably not the best use of
 If  everyone's', time to do'thati-  There are those of us who would
 19  be willingvto stick around'and go into thai detail; if 3fld
20  people are. interested.-<
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 1   in a position of  probably recommending what to do  in  the

 2   long term.   Over  the  short term,  which is  the  next six

 3   months to,  even a year,  the incremental exposure that

 4   residents of Alviso are  getting to the levels  that we found

 5   in the street dust over  your  all's life is probably not

 6   going to be a very significant risk.   What we'll find out

 7   when we pull all  our  information  together  and  have it in a

 8   document by the end of September,  we'll take that

 9   information that  we do know about that incremental list,

10   we'll calculate what  that risk would  be over a person's

11   lifetime,  having  been born here and for seventy years, and

12   if that result is a significant health risk, we'll be

13   recommending that something be done.   If that  result  is not
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14   a significant health  risk,  our recommendation  will be

15   nothing further be done,  most likely.

16             UNIDENTIFIED:   Does that include the ring levee,

17   too?

IS             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:   No.   We've already paid the

19   City and if something needs to be done with ring levee, and

20   that's actually the prime reason  we're here was to try to

21   get anybody's comments on what we're  proposing to  do with

22   the ring levee in the interim until we figure  out  what we

23   should be doing in the long term  area, with the asbestos,

24   the other  asbestos areas in Alviso.

25            UNIENTIFIED:   Don't misinterpret some of our
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  1   comments tonight.   I  think  we  appreciate  your  effort. I
  2   think a lot of the people are  feeling  frustrated because of
  3   the lack of accountability  by  the City of San  Jose because
  4   you look at — we  don't  see San Jose officials here; we
  5   don't see the Council  people here.  I  think a  lot of them
  6   feel very strongly about that.  There's a couple of comments
  7   I  hope you'll really  look at.  Doctor  Harvey touched on them
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  8   briefly.   If you're going to do something with the levee,
  9   cap it and so forth,  I think I'd encourage to  beautify our
10   community.   Don't  put  concrete in here.   I think that's
11   disgraceful to come into an already environmental sensitive
12   area and want to put  concrete  in here.  Let's  try and
13   beautify this community.  One of the things, too, I still
14   have concerns over polymer,  and I've brought this up before.
15   One division of EPA still is doing a research  on the
16   environmental impacts  of polymers or a  ceiling, yet we're
17   getting polymers here.   I don't know if they'll harm the
18   environment or they wont.
19             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  They won't.  The polymers that
20   we  put on the ring levee, there is enough test and research
21   data that says it's non-toxic.  The last  thing we wanted to
22   do  was try to fix  the  asbestos problem  and only create
23   another  problem in this  area.  So, we made sure we selected
24   a polymer  that was non-toxic and that's what we selected.  I
25   guess  I  do  appreciate  the comment about the frustration that
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 1   people  are  expressing here and I'm not so sure there's muc
 2   more  I  can  say about that.
 3        I'd like to get back to the ring levee, if we could,
 4   for a moment and just ask if there are any other questions
 5   or comments, other than the fact that what I'm hearing, in
 6   general, is that people still prefer, as had been mentioned
 1   in the  previous public meeting, soil cover, as opposed to
 8   gunite.
 9            UNIDENTIFIED:  And possible removal.
10            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  And possible removal.
11             UNIDENTIFIED:  Or both, the gunite and earth on
12   top of  the gunite.  Wasn't that part of it, gunite with the
13    earth on top of the gunite, as well?
14            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  No, that wasn't something we
15    were  proposing to do.  Previously, we had looked at a fabric
16    line  over the existing ring levee with soil on top of that.
17    We determined that based on that past study that we did,
18    that  a  larger soil cover was a better solution to the
19    problem than putting a cap on with a little soil cover.
20             UNIDENTIFIED:  They don't have polyurithane, they
21    don't have a longevity of a hundred years or better?
22             CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  The question is, is there some
23    synthetic fabric we could put on that would last a long
24    time.  The answer is yes, there is synthetic fabrics that
25    would last a long time.  I believe the reason that we
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 1   discounted  that was  that  it was going to be very difficult
 2   to make  sure  that  the soil adheres to the fabric cover.  So,
 3   I think  the iraplementability was that you put the fabric
 4   cover on and  put soil on  top of it and that you'd have to
 5   put such a  large amount of soil on it to make sure that it
 6   didn't slip off the  fabric cover —
 7            UNIDENTIFIED:   The water district uses fabric or
 8   soil stability and erosion control where they got extreme
 9   hydraulic problems.  I would say here, you've only really
10   got a vertical movement basically of water, compared to a
11   stream flow.  So,  there are fabrics out there —
12            CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD:  You're exactly right and the
13   reason is that we're trying, in designing a cover, one of ,
14   the things  that the  community wanted to make sure we
15   considered  was public access to the levee.  You're right, if
16   we simply wanted to put something on it to cover it and
17   could be  assured that the community wasn't going to use it
18   for anything  in terms of hiking, walking their pets, having
19   the children  play on it, what have you, we could have done
20   just that.  But, one reason, many of the earlier concerns
21    was that  children wre going to play on it, they wanted to
22   use the  levee, they wanted to walk on it, and walking on it
23    and using it, we felt that the best remedy to account for
24   that would  be a much larger soil cover.  So, that's why we
25    discounted  that in the earlier study.
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 1       Juliana, our interpreter, really needs a break and so,
 2  we could do one of two things.  For those of you that still
 3  have a lot of questions you'd like to ask, in this type of
 4  forum, we could break for ten minutes and reconvene,  if
 5  there are people who want to, if people are tired, they want
 6  to go home, they could just go home and we could have an
    informal discussion for those people who want to hang around
    and ask questions.  We'll be willing to stay as long as
    necessary to respond to the questions.  What would you all
10  like to do?  If we broke for the evening, is that okay?
11  Okay, thank you very much for coming.  A lot of us will be
12  hanging around to answer any questions those of you may have
13  and if there's anybody left who has ear phones that would
14  also like to stay around, our interpreter will be staying
15  around and there are other people here that could interpret
16  the answers to questions you may have.  Thank you very much
    for your input.  Good night.
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