United States
  Environmental Protection    Office of Water     EPA 810-B-99-004
  Agency            4601          September 1999


  NATIONAL DRINKING WATER

      ADVISORY COUNCIL



       Summary Meeting Minutes
            May 5-6,  1999

State Game Lodge in Ouster State Park

         Ouster, South Dakota

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Members of the Council

Dr. L. D. McMullen, Chairperson
Ms. Mary Pesina Baiza
Mr. Patrick Banegas
Dr. William Bellamy
Mr. Walter Bishop
Mr. Richard J. Coombe
Dr. Jeffrey K. Griffiths
Ms. Diana Neidle
Mr. John P. Scheltens
Dr. Dave P. Spath
Mr. Peter D. Thornton
Dr. Thomas Yohe

Also present during all or part of the meeting were:

Ms. Cynthia Dougherty, Director, Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water (OGWDW)
Ms. Charlene Shaw, Designated Federal Officer, OGWDW
Dr. Richard Bull, Science Advisory Board Liaison
Ms. Elizabeth Fellows, Deputy Director, OGWDW
Mr. Peter Shanaghan, OGWDW
Mr. Robert Blanco, Director, Implementation and Systems Division, OGWDW
Mr. Rod Coker, Peer Office, Indian Health Services
Mr. Cal Clifford, Peer Office, Indian Health Services
Mr. Danny Davis, Executive Director, South Dakota Rural Water
Mr. George Vansco, West River Director, South Dakota Rural Water
Mr. Ray Ecoffey, OSP Rural Water (also a Hot Spring City Council representative)
Ms. Martha Macek, Electrical Engineer, South Dakota Rural Water

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WEDNESDAY. MAY 5,1999

J. OPENING REMARKS-L.D. MCMULLEN/CYNTHIA DOUGHERTY

•      The Chair of the National Drinking Water Advisory Council (NDWAC) welcomed the
       Council members. Since two members, Ms. Mary Pesina Baiza and Dr. Peter D.
       Thornton, were new to the Council, all Council members, as well as representatives of
       small systems, tribal systems, and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
       introduced themselves and their work.

•      The first part of the afternoon and evening was devoted to small systems and tribal
       drinking water system issues to provide some background for the field trip planned for
       later in the week and for future meetings at which issues of small systems and
       affordability would be major themes.


II. BRIEFING ON SMALL SYSTEMS-PETER SHANAGHAN

•      A basic ethic of the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) is that everyone getting drinking
       water from a public water system in the USA should enjoy the same level of health
       protection from drinking water-related illnesses, regardless of the system that serves
       them. EPA's efforts, in working with small and tribal systems, are aimed at helping those
       systems achieve that level of health protection. However, these issues are not separate
       and distinct from the broader initiative of the SDWA.

•      There are many issues to consider for health protection; for example, a person could drink
       water from 20 different water systems in a given day.

•      EPA has very specific goals under the Government Performance and Results Act
       (GPRA), such as by the year 2005, it is expected that a greater percentage of the
       population will receive water that conforms with the requirements of SDWA as compared
       to 1994.

•      Ninety percent of the population is served by 10 percent of the systems. The vast majority
       of the population is receiving water from publicly-owned systems.

       USA has about 170,000 public water systems regulated under the SDWA. About 55,000
       of these are community water systems, which serve year-round residential populations;
       these systems are the ones that receive most of EPA's  attention.  About 20,000 are non-
       transient, non-community systems, such as rural schools and factories that have their own
       water supply. Just under 100,000 are transient systems, such as roadside rest stops that
       serve different people every day.  About 85 percent of the households in the country are
       served by public water systems; about 15  percent have their own wells.

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A third of all community water systems serve less than 100 people each; another third
serve between 100 and 500 people. About another quarter of the systems serve between
500 and 3,300 people, and eight percent serve between 3,300 and 10,000 people (not
connections).  These numbers show that the distribution is skewed very heavily toward
the very small systems.

The ownership profile of small systems is institutionally diverse. There are three types of
ownership: ancillary (i.e., mobile home parks where the water system is not the principal
purpose of the business); private systems, investor-owned or individually-owned (i.e.,
homeowner associations and not-for-profit type systems); and publicly owned systems.
The majority of small systems fall within the ancillary category, so more than half of the
systems that serve less than 100 people are mobile home parks.  Another large percentage
is privately owned, and only a small fraction is publicly owned.  There are slightly less
ancillary systems but slightly more publicly owned systems that serve between 100 and
500 people; about 20 percent of the systems that serve less than 500 people are publicly
owned.  Out of 55,000 ancillary systems, more than 70 percent are privately held. The
other 30 percent are run by county districts, cities, counties, improvement districts, etc.

The problem with small drinking water systems is not exclusively a problem of small
local governments; since many systems are either private or ancillary.  A problem occurs
when the owner of an ancillary system abandons the system, and for lack of volunteers
the local government ends up owning the system. This is a matter for concern because
currently county and public parks are not the best run systems.

About 90 percent of the population is served by 10 percent of the systems.  In other
words, about 25 million people are served by small systems. Even though this represents
10 percent of the population, this still represents a significant number of people.

When Congress reauthorized the Safe Drinking Water Act in 1996, based on
Congressional findings, special attention was put on small systems.  Congress recognized
that there is a need for new approaches to deal with small water system problems. One
finding was that more effective protection of public health requires prevention of drinking
water contamination through well-trained system operators; water systems with adequate
managerial, technical, and financial capacity; and enhanced protection of source waters.

There are several major components to the capacity developments provisions that frame
the small systems  issue within SDWA. The first is the requirement for states to develop
two programs that deal  with water system capacity. The first program requires systems to
demonstrate capacity before they commence operations; the second program requires
states to develop and implement capacity development strategies that will enhance the
technical, financial, and managerial capabilities of water systems.  The law also ties
system level eligibility  for assistance from the new Drinking Water State Revolving Fund

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(SRF) to systems that have adequate capacity or the ability to attain capacity through the
use of assistance. If a state does not develop these programs in accordance with the law,
it will lose 20 percent of its SRF allotment.  Systems which do not have capacity and
refuse to undertake changes to obtain capacity are prohibited from receiving SRF money.

In terms of building state programs, EPA is focused on new system capacity building and
capacity development strategy. EPA wants to ensure that the appropriate coordination
exists among all players. EPA is providing direct assistance to the states through its
contractors and through grants, and is developing resource and training materials. Water
system capacity development is the enhancement of the technical, financial, and
managerial wherewithal of a water system to consistently provide safe and affordable
drinking water to its customers.  All three components are equally important.

Technical capacity pertains to the following issues: does the system have an adequate
supply of source water, is the source water adequately protected, what is the condition of
the system's infrastructure (the well or intake, the treatment plant, the distribution system,
the storage tanks, etc.), and are the system's operation and maintenance effective and
preventive.

Financial capacity pertains to the following issues: is there sufficient revenue, does the
system have access to sufficient money to meet its obligations, is there enough money
coming into the system to meet all obligations and needs, is the system credit worthy or at
least qualified for financial assistance from the lenders of last resort, does the system
manage the income it has effectively, and is the system collecting all of the money that is
due to it.

Managerial capacity pertains to the following issues: is the owner of the system known, is
there enough staff, are the staff members the right people to run the system, what is  the
organization of the staff, and is the system able to communicate effectively with its
customers, state regulators, and technical assistance providers.

Every system (large or small) must be able to answer the questions pertaining to
technical, financial, and managerial capacity. If this is not possible, long term problems
will ensue.

Capacity development is not an end in itself; it is an effort to enhance the capabilities of
systems in order to have an impact on public health protection, i.e, proper monitoring,
effective maintenance of the  infrastructure, protection of source water, training and
certification of operators, communication with customers, necessary treatment of drinking
water, and efficient system operation.

A system can be thought of as having different increments of capacity. There is a
baseline capacity; this is the capacity of a system to provide water of adequate pressure,

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free of microbial contaminants, and able to meet its customer's needs.  Once this baseline
is established, the additional capacity needed to comply with the requirements that were
in place before the SDWA '96 amendments can be determined.  Now that there are post
'96 requirements, there will be another increment of capacity necessary in order to
comply  with these requirements.  Finally, there is the increment of capacity needed to
allow the systems to perform a really good job or "superior service."

States are going to benefit from measuring improvements as a result of capacity building.
As comprehensive inspections of systems are done, deficiencies identified will be
corrected more expeditiously than they have been in the past.  There will most  likely be
an improvement in the economics and the efficiency of the system as well. In the end,
capacity building may result in the same level of public health protection as could have
occurred without capacity building, but it will happen at a lower cost.

Before EPA can start looking at results, EPA needs to make sure that systems have the
right infrastructure. To do that, EPA HQ has a small systems team that provides the focus
for the small systems efforts, and is moving in three major directions to build the national
drinking water program: (1) strengthen the program internally by improving the
relationship with the EPA regions and among regions in order to better serve and address
small systems needs on a local basis; (2) help the states to build the programs they need to
address  small systems issues; and (3) help small systems directly build the capacity they
need. EPA is supporting the development of regulations, guidance, and policy in order to
ensure that small systems issues are up-front and center in the regulatory process.

One of the comments was that such a difference in focus  on small versus large systems
issues will lead to a tiered national public health water-related program in which large
systems focus on long-term, chronic health issues, such as bromates and trihalomethanes,
while small systems focus on acute health problems and basic health standards, based on
disinfection.

The EPA representative responded that currently there is a difference in regulatory
coverage related to microbial contaminants, but in the future, small and large systems will
be expected to meet one set of standards. How these standards will be met will be
different; EPA now has the authority to identify compliance or variance technologies for
small systems that are different from the best available technology (BAT), identified for
large systems.  Getting  systems to comply with these same standards will be one of
EPA's major challenges.

EPA is focusing on programs for new system capacity demonstration and capacity
development strategy. EPA provides direct assistance to the states through contractors
and through grants to help the states develop their programs. Recipients of such grants
are the Rural Water Association, the Rural Community Assistance Program, and

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universities providing technology assistance.  EPA is also developing resource materials
and training materials to help the states.

EPA works with other funding agencies, particularly at the federal level, to coordinate the
approach to the capacity issue. EPA also works with many stakeholders to address small
systems issues.

As small systems plan for the future, they need to think about the appropriate spatial
boundary issue. Do they continue on their own or do they partner with other systems? If
they want to partner with other systems, will these other systems be nearby or will they be
in other counties or even in other states. There is a range of opportunities that needs to be
explored, such as, informal cooperation, formal contracting for services, systems joining
together to form a cooperative, systems merging together to form a new entity, systems
buying or acquiring  other systems, etc.

The NDWAC Small Systems Implementation Workgroup, created in November 1998,
has been charged with formulating the strategic direction EPA and the states should take
to help small systems meet their obligations and requirements. The group has assembled
data from different sources and is examining the existing and the forthcoming regulations
to determine what small systems will need to do to comply with the regulations. The
group will then identify strategic recommendations that EPA and the states can use to
build the necessary capacity.

Under the capacity development program, it is now required that before states can
approve a new system, whether it involves approving the water rights or the plans and
specifications of the system, it must ensure that the system has the necessary capacity and
can meet the standards. Until now some states have used their own authorities to approve
new systems, but now the states must follow the new federal rule that a new system they
approve must be able to operate to meet applicable standards.

The total number of small systems is declining, due to assimilation or regionalization. As
capacity requirements are continually pushed, this trend will likely continue.
Regionalization means different things in different areas of the United States. In many
areas, it would mean assembling a lot of systems within 5 to 10 miles of a metro area. In
rural South Dakota,  it would involve more of a statewide approach.

Regionalization will presumably take place as long as the government does not create
disincentives when structuring grant and small community assistance programs at the
state and federal level. In the past, federal and state programs have caused disincentives
to regionalization.

In order to receive SRF loan/grant financial assistance, a system must have capacity or
must be able to be brought to capacity with the assistance.

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There is concern over situations in which big cities will not work with small systems in
surrounding communities. In some cases, the big cities could easily sell water to or
connect to the small systems, but they will not.  Even though there may be costs or
liability involved, there needs to be an incentive program so that large cities will allow
small systems to connect to their systems.

A participant wanted to know if EPA was tracking federal and state programs to see if
they are achieving public health protection through small systems.  States, as part of their
capacity development strategy, are required to: measure whether improved public health
protection for small systems is being achieved, determine how they should measure
approvals, and establish a baseline. States are further required, in later years, to provide
reports on the efficacy of their strategy and on the ways in which they are helping the
systems build capacity.  So, the concept of tracking capacity development nationally does
not exist; there is de-centralized implementation under the SDWA.

There was a concern about EPA's emphasis on capacity because its focus is on the
process, not on the end product, namely, health  protection.  A system could have a
fabulous process, but if it doesn't address the basic issue of public health protection, there
could be glowing statistics, with no actual impact on public health.

As EPA looks at its goals and objectives under the agency's performance goals, it must
determine a way to measure changes. If there are no improvements, EPA must reexamine
its programs. To achieve source water protection, EPA must evaluate its programs and
determine which ones work and which don't.

Due to the promulgation of new standards, EPA felt that there would be a sudden increase
in non-compliance violations. To avoid such a situation, EPA would measure two
metrics, the existing standards and the new standards; eventually these would meld over
time.

A participant commented that the levels at which standards are set could have a negative
impact on the ability of small systems to meet cost-benefit criteria if the criteria are not
sensitive to the small system issue. EPA replied that if cost-benefit flexibility was
allowed in the law, based on the effects on small systems, this would actually cause less
country-wide protection than the larger systems could easily afford. Congress has set up
other mechanisms to address small systems affordability., Including variances,
exemptions, and other compliance technologies.

EPA has the authority to enforce the law and require systems to pay penalties. Under
emergency authority, EPA can even shut down a system, but this usually does not happen
because this does not remedy the situation. Additionally, enforcement is usually not

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       necessary; EPA and the small system can come to some agreement that still meets the
       rule.

       There will be some systems that EPA and the states will put at the top of their lists in
       terms of pumping resources into them, targeting financial assistance to them, and
       recognizing that these are the systems that really need the subsidies.

       In some states, there is pressure for the state to acquire troubled systems. In some cases,
       from an investment standpoint, a system is not viable, but with the state's help, the
       customers are able to get a dependable, safe water supply.  When the cost is spread
       among more than a million customers base, the slight increase does not show.

       Over the past years, some large municipal  systems have chosen to sell their systems so
       that they may be professionally managed instead of seeking to bring their systems up to
       standard.

       It was felt that the Small Systems workgroup members need to continue to  focus on
       public health, and not get caught up with the process. States will do what EPA requires
       of them, and public health is what the states need to address.
III. BRIEFING ON TRIBAL WATER SYSTEMS

•      Nationwide, there are 536 tribal water systems, each one in a sovereign tribal nation.
       EPA's relationship with tribal water systems is different from its relationship with states.
       With states, there is a primacy agency that oversees the drinking water systems in the
       state, but with tribes, EPA deals directly with the tribal water system on a government to
       government relationship.  Also, EPA has no legal authority to authorize a state to act as
       the primacy agent with the tribal systems.

•      EPA's water program has an overall strategy for working with Indian tribes which is
       comprehensive and involves establishing a water program presence with each tribe in
       certain program areas, conducting baseline assessments, establishing priorities and
       implementing programs.

•      In terms of implementing the SDWA, the goals for the tribes are the same as those for
       other small systems and they are to increase the number of people receiving water that is
       in compliance with health standards. In the annual report, there is a separate section on
       tribal public water systems which shows compliance and non-compliance.

•      There is nothing in common from tribe to tribe.

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There are almost 1,000 tribal public systems in the country serving less than 10,000
people; there is only one tribal system that serves more than 10,000 people. The majority
of tribal water systems are ground water systems.

The need of these systems on a per-household basis is twice the need of other small
systems. (This is from the 1995 Drinking Water Infrastructure Need Survey.)  There are
various categories of needs. For tribal systems, there is less need in the transmission and
distribution arena, but significantly more need in the storage area.

Current need is defined as anything that has to be done right away to address any
problems. Future need refers to anything that must be done over the next 20 years. The
current needs for tribal systems is a much larger percentage of the total need than it is for
any of the other size categories.

Tribal  median household income is only about 60 percent of the national median
household income. The percentage of tribal individuals in poverty is almost two and a
half times the percentage of similar individuals on a national level. In terms of total
number of people, this represents a relatively small number of people because the total
tribal population is very small.  It is important to consider socioeconomic conditions
when looking at tribal water systems.

EPA can use the enforcement authorities established in the SDWA to get compliance
from tribal authorities, but it is does not often do so because it prefers to work with tribes
to give them the capacity they need to solve their problems.

EPA has a two-pronged approach to dealing with tribal systems.  The first is direct
implementation efforts which involve working directly with the tribal water systems,
conducting sanitary surveys, and participating in all the activities that a primacy agency
would  do with a water system.  The second is an effort to build tribal system capacity and
to provide assistance to tribes.

EPA makes available some funds for direct implementation work. This year, it is $3.78
million.  About a quarter of the funds goes to capacity development, another quarter goes
to operator certification, and the rest is distributed to other programs.

The Drinking Water SRF has an established national set-aside (drinking water
infrastructure grant set-aside) to fund tribal systems. It is 1 '/z percent of the annual
appropriation. This is money that is distributed to the tribes through the EPA Regions,
based on the needs of the tribes. The regions consult with the Indian Health Service and
with the tribes regarding the selection of projects.

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In terms of capacity development, there are no specific requirements for tribes. Tribes are
not required to develop programs in the same way that States are, so EPA is trying to
build capacity through capacity building grants.

What is unique to tribes is the operator certification program. EPA is in the process of
developing resource material specifically targeted to tribal systems on the subject of
operator certification and is developing a voluntary certification program for tribal
operators. Baseline standards for certification are being developed and certification
providers (such as states) who have approved certification programs will provide the
service to tribes.  To receive an infrastructure grant set-aside, the tribal water system must
be operated by a certified operator.

In order for a system to receive a grant under the drinking water infrastructure grant set-
aside, the system must be operated by a certified operator. This should provide an
incentive for operator certification in the tribal arena.  There is a similar condition about
capacity development; systems receiving the funding must have adequate capacity or
must be able to develop their capacity.

Source water protection is not mandatory for the tribes in the same way it is for other
small systems. However, protecting source water is a strong tribal ethic. EPA provides
assistance grants to help the tribes do source water assessments and to develop source
water protection  programs, but this is largely voluntary.

EPA offers or coordinates a significant amount of training and technical assistance that is
available to tribes. In EPA's Regional Offices, there are staff members who provide one-
on-one technical assistance  to tribes. Many of the regional offices have formed
interagency agreements with federal entities such as the Indian Health Service and the
Bureau of Reclamation, to help build tribal capacity, as well as to achieve direct
implementation.  Some of the regional offices also provide grants to third parties such as
certain state  rural water associations for training and assistance, erg., the National Rural
Water Association (NRWA) and the Rural Community Assistance Program (RCAP).

The NRWA funding for 1999 was $8 million, and the RCAP funding was $1 *A million.
The grant agreements with both of these entities require that at least 3 percent of their
funding be used for technical assistance to tribal systems.

Out of the 536 tribes, only a few are involved with voluntary activities such as wellhead
protection. The basic needs of Indian tribes have been operator certification and sanitary
surveys of the treatment plants.

Recently, many tribes have  started building casinos and restaurants which attract transient
visitors to the area.  Even though systems supplying these casinos and restaurants should

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be meeting the requirements, there was some concern that this could affect overall public
health. If these systems are not meeting standards, EPA needs to take action.

The Indian Health Service is part of the Department of Health and Human Services, and
has 12 area offices nationwide. It has a sanitation facility construction program that
addresses drinking water, waste water, and solid waste needs for the tribes.  It annually
ranks tribal needs and creates a sanitation deficiency system list. On a nationwide level,
the Indian Health Service has identified $900 million in drinking water needs of a total of
$1.6 billion for water, sewer, and solid waste. The Indian Health Service is working with
EPA to track those needs.  EPA has a needs evaluation system in regards to SRF funding;
the Indian Health Service's sanitation deficiency system is similar.

Currently, both EPA and the Indian Health Service have separate unmet needs tracking
systems.  It was suggested that EPA Headquarters and the Indian Health Service work
more closely to try and mesh the two systems.  What the tribes need is one simplified
system that they can understand, identify with, and work under as they start to receive
funds.

In South  Dakota, the Indian Health Service is working with EPA Region 8 to develop a
mechanism to conduct the source water protection program and the assessments for all
the tribes. It is being tried with the Aberdeen Area Tribal Chairman's Health Board, the
only entity that represents  all tribes in the area.  The Indian Health Service is trying to get
EPA to make a grant to them so that they can do assessments on all reservations or at
least manage and administer the assessments on all the reservations. This would be
similar to what states are doing. EPA was asked to support this initiative.

The Indian Health Service is the only federal agency that has environmentally trained
sanitary engineers that are working on the reservations on a daily basis.  The Service has a
disease incidence tracking system, but it has not really compared systems on reservations
that have capacity versus those that do not have capacity. As a public health agency, the
Indian Health Service does not take enforcement actions, it provides technical assistance.

When it was suggested that EPA work more one-on-one with people on the reservations,
it was replied that in the last several years, EPA has made some significant changes in
terms of  how it is organized to work with tribes. For one, EPA established an American
Indian Environmental Office within the Office of Water that deals with tribal issues
across all of EPA's environmental programs. That office has a Tribal Operations
Committee, which is made up of one or more tribes from each EPA region to advise EPA
on all the tribal issues that EPA deals with. The committee, which meets several times a
year, provides input at the national policy level.

The way  the law and regulations are set up, if a state or tribe does not  have primacy, EPA
gets their share of the  drinking water state grants, to carry out direct implementation on
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those state or tribal lands. In the past EPA would use that money to visit the tribes and to
work with them; now that Congress has changed the appropriations' structure, this is no
longer allowed.

The Tribal Assistance Program, which is part of the American Indian Office, has a newly
established program which involves doing a lot of work on the reservations. The
American Indian Office has some basic environmental grants that tribes can use for any
environmental work. The number of these grants has grown considerably, and EPA is
attempting to increase these grants further.

Some participants said that there hasn't been a lot of cooperation between tribes. A
participant asked if there could be cooperation in a multi-tribal setting. The response was
that all tribes were separate and had their own initiatives and focus, but depending on the
issues, some tribes would support other tribes.  Overall, self-governance and self-
determination is very important to tribes, and this will be preserved above all.  Another
participant suggested that all the federal agencies involved in infrastructure development
on tribal lands cooperate and pool their funds into a leveraged program.

The issue with tribal systems may not be an infrastructure problem, rather a problem with
how services are delivered and managed and how responsibility is taken at the tribal
level, in terms of management and monitoring.

Since EPA does not have the authority under the SDWA to require tribes to have a
certified operator, EPA will have to provide a financial incentive if it wants  tribes to have
a certified operator. The requirement for tribes is that a certified operator be available, not
that the  person working on the system has to be a certified operator.

The Rural Utility Service and the Indian Health Service are working more closely than
they have done before.  None of the entities, on their own have enough money to
accomplish their major goals, but together, they can get a project done.

The Mini Wiconi project on the Pine Ridge Reservation is a good example of a
cooperative effort. The Bureau of Reclamation has gotten funding to build a large rural
distribution and treatment facility near Fort Pierre which takes water out of the Missouri
River. Throughout the building process, there have been many instances where different
appropriations have been combined in order to achieve the main objective.

The approach to environmental health protection is changing these days. The current
approach in many places is to go into communities and identify different variables that
are affecting people's behaviors. In order to make an improvement in people's personal
health, there needs to be a change in their behavior. Sometimes, it is important to engage
in other social agency type activities in order to help improve the overall health of people;
in fact, this may be necessary to finally affect the drinking water issue.
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       When conducting a source water assessment with a particular tribe, four tribal
       departments should be involved with the process: Rural Water, Water and Sewer,
       Environment, and Water Resources.  These are in addition to the various federal and state
       agencies involved.  As it gets down to the local level, many cross-disciplinary functions
       are involved.

       Since more interagency and interdepartmental cooperation will be needed in the future, it
       would be useful to have a database for all individuals involved.  The major obstacle will
       be gathering all the necessary information together into one place.
IV. DRINKING WATER COST AND AFFORDABILITY FOR SMALL SYSTEMS

•      When discussing affordability, one must consider the unit involved.  One of the units is
       the household which is the most vulnerable economic unit.  There is a relationship
       between the household and the water system.  The water system provides water to a
       household and the household pays the water system. The cost that this water system
       faces, the cost of doing business, is a function of many things, such as, does the system
       use a least-cost solution to the problem of water supply in that particular area, is the water
       system achieving all possible economies of scale, is it an economically efficient water
       system, is the system getting its capital as cheaply as it can, and is the system receiving
       subsidies in the form of grants or low interest loans. Many options exist for the water
       system to distribute, collect, and recuperate its cost.

•      On the household side, the ability to pay these costs is primarily a function of
       employment and income. When it comes to affordability, these discussions get stuck on
       the household side of the issue. There is a lot that goes on in the affordability area on the
       water system side and this is where a capacity development strategy can help.

•      Affordability is a function of two things: the price of the water and the ability of people to
       pay for the water. As price increases, affordability goes down. As the ability to pay is
       increased, affordability goes up. The threshold of affordability is where price is equal to
       the ability to pay.

•      As with all systems, there is a significant distribution of income of people who receive
       water from ancillary systems.  It is often assumed that everyone receiving water from a
       small system is poor and wiii not be abie TO afford price increases, iliis is not always true.

•      The ability to pay is obviously going to be increased with higher employment, higher
       income, better paying jobs, progressive rate structures that recover more of the costs from
       excessive use, and transfer of payments for poorer communities.
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There was some discussion about the use of inclined block rate structure. In theory, for
the first block of water use, the household would pay the actual cost. For the next block
of water use, the household would pay the actual cost plus a little more.  This means that
people using excess capacity must pay a lot more for their water. The problem with this
theory is that it assumes that poorer people are not using the excess capacity because they
will not be watering an acre of grass and they won't have  the water-using appliances that
larger, wealthier households have. But this doesn't account for the "poor" household that
has eight individuals under one roof or the household that cannot afford the repairs to fix
leaking faucets.

When it comes to the ability to pay, there is a problem with prioritization.  Some
households will choose to pay their cable bills before they pay their water bills because
they know it will be several months before their water supply is shut off.

Consumer expenditure data for 1995 were presented. As the income category goes up,
the percentage of income that is spent on housing, transportation, food, and health and
personal care products go down. As income goes up, there is more income available to
put into insurance and pensions. At the bottom of the income expenditures are electricity,
telephone, alcohol and tobacco, and water and other public health services (waste water,
waste, and trash).  It is striking that twice as much is spent on alcohol and tobacco as on
water and other services at all income levels.  Part of this  may be due to the historical
artificially-low price of water.

Price is an important issue. The factors that increase price are infrastructure repair and
replacement, compliance, and demand growth; the factors that decrease price are
economies of scale, technology, efficiency, and subsidies.

There is great economy of scale in the production of water.  There is essentially no
economy of scale in the distribution of water. There are economies to be realized in
common management. These have not been fully explored, but they need to be.

When one looks at systems, it is often such that large systems have relatively small per-
household costs, and small systems have relatively large per-household costs. By putting
a number of the small systems under common management, cost differentials can be
decreased.

There are a few key factors that affect affordability for small systems: rate design;
economies of scale in both production and management, provision  of subsidies in the
form of low-interest loans or grants, and appropriate use of regulatory flexibility in
regards to technologies, and variances and exemptions.
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The way the water industry is currently structured, it is very inefficient from an economic
perspective. It is believed that with correct restructuring, people could get "more bang for
their buck."

EPA needs to investigate the idea of discretionary expenditures. When looking at
affordability, EPA must look at the percentage of discretionary income that will be
affected when aiming for a higher quality of life with less health expenditure. EPA needs
to determine which expenditures are discretionary, and which ones are not.

EPA must look not only at the individual's ability to pay for water, but must also consider
the public sector. A community system income may not just come from rate structures,
but from property taxes, sales taxes, and fees. A local government may have good reason
to fund part of its drinking water costs out of a general fund.

Besides individual and institutional affordability, when making decisions in the public
domain, it is a collective decision, versus the individual decision.

There are other complexities with the cost of water.  For example, the cost of water may
be reflected in the rents that people are paying in their homeowners association fee.

The real action, in terms of affordability, must take place at the state level.  The  states
have the ability to set their own affordability criteria which they will use for purposes of
granting variances and exemptions. They can also set affordability criteria for the
provision of additional subsidies to disadvantaged communities under the Drinking Water
SRF.

A participant asked if there was any empirical data about small systems banding together
or proprietary organizations buying utilities because of economies of scale. The response
was that there has not been much work, but there is a tremendous need for this work. The
data could help EPA understand communities that do not meet those criteria by
discovering what the characteristics of these communities are, the importance of the
relative priorities of these communities, and the public challenges these communities
face.

Data from the Rural Water Systems show that people are willing to pay a significant
amount of money for a quality product. In some cases, paying for water from rural water
systems is cheaper than the alternatives. If lower-income households have poor tasting
water, they may add devices to remedy this which may add to the ovcmll cu&i that they
pay for water.

Water may be delivered below cost for many reasons.  One reason may be that certain
states take the property tax away and issue bonds. Another reason may be that some local
government officials may be well-intentioned, but not necessarily good business decision-
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       makers when it comes to water systems. Often their decisions are based on the
       perception of affordability, and their reactions are that water systems need to cut costs.
       Yet another reason may be that water rates are often viewed almost like a tax, and
       government officials don't like to increase rates or taxes because they are under intense
       public scrutiny.  There is the perception that water is cheap or free and is readily
       available; in other words, people are not willing to pay a lot for their water.

       Because of individual decisions, households may be paying a lot more for their water than
       they should. For example, if an impact fee or a connection fee of $2,000 is included in a
       mortgage with an interest rate of 7 percent, the person paying that mortgage may end up
       paying $9,000.  All the while, this money is not going to the government, it is going to the
       bank.  This is a huge increased cost, added by choice.

       There has been the perception that water supply is a social service, rather than a utility.

       Historically, clean water has made a big difference in public health.  Because much of the
       population today has not lived through a time when water was not so clean, this issue is
       not obvious. Clean water is now a public health measure that is not  perceived by the
       public.
Thursday. May 6.1999

I. WELCOME

•      Roily Knoll, the park superintendent at Custer State Park welcomed the participants and
       provided background information on the park and its facilities.

•      New meeting participants, Mr. Pat Banegas—manager of a water and sanitation district in
       New Mexico, member of the New Mexico Rural Water Association and the National
       Rural Water Association, and Mr. Garland Erbele—of the State Department of
       Environment and Natural Resources, were introduced to the group.

II. COMMENTS/PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

•      Steven Hensley, representing the American Trucking Association which has
       approximately 35,000 members nationwide, reviewed the most important points of his
       written comments which were distributed earlier to the entire group. The majority (70-80
       percent) of the trucking companies in the United States are small businesses (less than six
       trucks) and the rest are large organizations (like the United Parcel Service or Fed-Ex).

•      The first concern presented was the lack of options for facilities which will have to close
       down their motor vehicle waste underground injection control wells. Many businesses

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       will no longer have the ability to continue operations. The Trucking Association was
       responding to the two options presented by the workgroup which were: permit with
       waiver and "melting bay" options, to alleviate pressure on the industry. The first, a
       permit with a waiver is not a true option for all facilities because of its high cost. The
       second, the "melting bay" option, for facilities with more then one maintenance bay,
       involves the physical separation of one bay to be used for vehicles which are wet from
       precipitation or snow melt.  The vehicles will drip dry, then be moved to a maintenance
       shop. Then, the bay drain will be allowed to remain open. This second option is not cost
       effective.

       Other possible pre-existing options include the use of public sewers.  This option is not
       possible for a number of facilities which do not have access to a public sewer. Another
       option, to pump and haul, is also not available to all facilities. It would be beneficial if
       options were available when the rule comes out in order to allow all facilities to maintain
       the level of service which they are currently providing.

       The 90-day closure period is inadequate for proper closure of UIC wells. No direct
       notification is required to the facilities. Thus, notification would fall  on the American
       Trucking Association or public news media to inform all the members. The Association
       will not be able to shoulder the full responsibility of such a huge task. Publications have
       a standard three-month turnaround period.  Thus, no media notification will occur for at
       least three months. In addition, contracting for proper well closure including testing,
       permitting, etc. takes three months at best.  When a well is closed, the discharge must go
       somewhere.  The connection to a sewer, considering one is available, could be possible.
       If one is unavailable, this process could take years considering negotiations, permitting,
       and construction.  Some facilities cannot get connected to public sewers even upon
       offering to finance it themselves.  This program is similar to the UST Program which
       took 10 years to bring all involved systems into compliance. In considering the above
       points, the proposed 90-day closure period seems unrealistic.

       Finally, the most acceptable option is a less costly permit option. This could be done
       with limited monitoring, or reduced monitoring after contamination tests had been
       completed. This concept is currently being used in the National Pollutant Discharge
       Elimination System (NPDES) permit system for storm water as well as a permit being
       used by EPA on some UIC discharge wells within the trucking industry.
III. UIC/SOURCE WATER PROTECTION

•      Jim Tripp and L.D. McMullen represented NDWAC in the Underground Injection
       Control (UIC)/Source Water Protection workgroup.  After Bob Blanco provided some
       background information on Class V wells, each recommendation was considered,
       discussed and voted on.
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A.     Robert Blanco

The UIC Program is segmented into five basic classes of wells, for administrative
convenience. Class I wells include municipal wells and hazardous waste wells that
discharge injected fluids below the lowest underground source of drinking water. Class II
include the oil and gas recovery class in which brine water is often injected to force the
energy for removal purposes. Mining is the third category and is often associated with
salt dome mineral extraction. Class IV wells include hazardous constituents and
radioactive wastes that are leaking into source waters or potential source waters. Class V
wells include shallow injection wells. Some types of wells included in this group are
shallow industrial waste disposal wells (dry cleaners, electroplating operation wastes,
funeral homes, and beauty parlors), and deep wells including motor vehicle waste
disposal wells, large capacity cesspools, large capacity septic systems, storm water
drainage wells, and geothermal wells.

The current requirements for Class V wells are stated in §1421 of the SDWA which
requires the EPA to promulgate regulations to prevent underground injection that
endangers drinking water sources, specifically prohibiting the movement of fluids
containing contaminants that may cause problems for a public water supply.  The Class V
program is currently authorized by rule. There are 33 states which have taken primacy for
the Class V program thus, by law, these programs meet federal requirements. EPA
administers 17 state programs including those on Indian lands. Specific regulations for
Class I, II, and III wells exist.

EPA submitted a report to Congress in 1987 with information compiled by the States
addressing the inventory of Class V wells, as well as the contamination potential, and
existing state practices and procedures for Class V wells.  The Sierra Club sued EPA in
about 1994 due to the lack of specific Class V regulations in print, and because
authorization by  rule was in effect.  As a result of a consent decree, EPA proposed a rule
in 1995 based upon using existing authority supplemented with a broad management
strategy. EPA did not pursue that approach.

Instead, EPA entered into a modified consent decree with the Sierra Club in 1997.  This
strategy breaks the wells program into three phases. The phase I  requirements, due by
October 29, 1999, include regulation for highest risk wells. The three types of Class V
wells in phase I are large capacity cesspools, the  motor vehicle wells, and industrial waste
disposal wells. The second phase of the decree requires EPA to do further research on the
remaining classes of wells in the Class V category. This research effort is planned to be
completed by September 1999. The final step involves proposing additional regulations
as a result of new information determined from Phase II. The final regulations are to be
put forth by May 2002.
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•      The four basic requirements of the Source Water Protection Program are for the States to:
       compile a source water assessment program; identify the boundaries of source water areas
       for public water supplies across the state; identify potential contamination; perform a
       susceptibility analysis and make all information available to the public. The states had
       until February 1999 and with extensions May 2003, to complete their source water
       assessment.  The proposal states that all new large cesspools will be prohibited and
       existing ones will be phased out over five years. All waste disposal wells will have to
       meet standards or health limits at the point of injection.  The owner/operator would have
       to comply with the drinking water standards within 90 days of completion of a local
       source water assessment program and the state would have the option of giving the
       owner/operator an additional one-year extension. There are two proposed options for the
       motor vehicle waste disposal sites. Either they will be banned completely or a ban with a
       waiver permit issued by the State Director or EPA must be obtained for them to remain
       open.  A waiver permit may be obtained if drinking water  standards are met at the point
       of injection. Again, a 90-day requirement to comply and the option of a 1-year extension
       to comply. The states have until 2003 to develop their own regulations for Class V wells.
       If they do not have regulations by then, Federal Class V regulations would apply.

•      The information in the proposal seems consistent with current practices for trucking
       operations and small business in which they have antifreeze and oil and are hooked to
       sewer systems.  The contaminants must be separated,  recycled, pretreated, and in some
       cases filtered and skimmed.

•      The magnitude of contamination as a result of Class V wells remains unknown.  There is
       anecdotal information and little other available information. This proposed regulation
       would only affect those wells in areas which have been identified by each state to be
       within the source water protection area.  The number of facilities which will be affected
       by this regulation is unknown.

•      Educational programs would help to improve the situation.     -

       B.    Discussion and Vote on Recommendations

       The Council's two working groups, UlC/Source Water Protection and the Right-To-
Know presented their reports. The recommendations from these two groups were passed on by
the Council to the Agency are included in these minutes as Attachment 1.
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IV. UPDATES ON UPCOMING RULES-BILL DIAMOND
       The NDWAC's role in the review of standards is as follows, "In proposing and
       promulgating regulations, the Administrator will consult with the Secretary of Health and
       Human Services and the National Drinking Water Advisory Council." At a minimum
       NDWAC will review the proposed rule within the comment period. Additional activities
       which could be applied to certain rules include, regular briefings, meetings and,
       establishment of workgroups.  Stakeholders should be involved in rule-making earlier and
       more extensively. Regulations should be data and science driven. The rule-making
       process has been improved over the past few years.

       Suggestions for improving the rule-making process even further include: (1) stakeholder
       involvement early, often, more extensive; (2) get the rule out in time, not court-order
       driven; (3) space out implementation for adequate funding; (4) don't use regulations to
       push science, be reasonable; (5) target rules to highest risk; (6) provide guidance and
       training to make implementation easier.

       The proposal for Radon will be completed by August of 1999 and promulgation by
       August of 2000.  To date, the processing of this rule has involved early stakeholder
       involvement, small business consultation, and Health Risk Reduction and Cost Analysis.
       The current issues, especially small system impacts, will be included in the proposal for
       comments to be issued in the summer. Congress attempted to control the amount of
       radon in indoor air, because this pathway is influential to the number of cancer cases in a
       given area, as well as useful in decreasing radon contamination in the water supply.
       Comments have been made on the calculation of benefits, in terms of the consideration of
       cancer, and coverage for non-community systems.  The National Academy of Sciences
       (NAS) supported EPA, although it had issues about the percent of negative effects from
       two exposure pathways. The group discussed the Multimedia Mitigation Program portion
       of the rule.                                               -

       The most controversial issue with the Arsenic standard is the extent and severity of risk.
       NAS  has been consulted. There will be a stakeholder meeting in the beginning of June
       and a follow up conference call to discuss various issues, such as occurrence information,
       recent cost information, treatment information, and the NAS report.

       The Long Term Enhanced Surface Water Treatment Rule proposal target is November
       1999. The key elements involved, combined filter effluent limitations, profiling in terms
       of trying to prevent any backsliding for microbial protection, requirements that all  new
       finished water reservoirs be covered, and the inclusion of Cryptosporidium in ground
       water under the influence determinations.
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       Rule number 4 is the Filter Backwash Rule which requires taking the filter sludge,
       removing impurities, then adding it back into the head of the system so that the water gets
       treated again as it is recycled. This is not a no-cost rule.

       The Unregulated Contaminant Monitoring Rule focuses on collecting additional data
       for 30 to 35 identified contaminants which are currently unregulated. The development
       of the National Contaminant Occurrence Data Base is scheduled to be published in the
       Federal Register this summer along with the final Unregulated Contaminant Monitoring
       Rule. The database will include information primarily from SDWIS, the National Water
       Information System (NWIS), and from occurrence data collected by USGS. Some
       important issues which need to be dealt with are data quality and the most useful
       presentation format for the information.  It should be available for use in August 1999
       with data from SDWIS and NWIS initially. There was a concern raised about data
       quality.

       The Ground Water Rule proposal is planned for November of 1999. The draft proposal
       is currently being updated with incorporation of comments.  Main components of debate
       are identifying where the risks are, identifying and prioritizing sensitive systems. The use
       of viral indicators as a monitoring tool is very helpful to this process. Research is
       currently being done to develop a cheap and effective coliphage monitoring method; if
       successful, this will drive down the price of monitoring and  detection.

       The Futures Forum was created to try and ensure safe drinking water for all in the next
       25 years.  This can be done by meeting deadlines for the rules, as well as determining the
       best way to keep these rules useful in the future.  This forum is to brainstorm and come
       up with possible improvements for the process such as achieving goals by changing
       practices, changing priorities, changing investments, and increasing public credibility.
       There will be a public meeting in June, in Washington, D.C. to discuss the research done
       by the Forum.

       There was a discussion on the topic of research and what constituted good science, the
       optimum size of research projects, and the best combination of private/public efforts.
       Many participants expressed concern with applying information  collected from adult
       males and extrapolating it into research on females.  It was stressed that sensitive and
       vulnerable populations need to be included in information gathering-.
V. PRESENTATION NETTIE MYERS. SECRETARY. SOUTH DAKOTA DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND
NATURAL RESOURCES

•      The State of South Dakota is very rural, and represents a number of very small public
       water systems. The compliance of drinking water standards in South Dakota may be a bit
       different than for states which have larger facilities.  Of the drinking water systems in
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       South Dakota, 98.5 percent serve less then 10,000 people; the average number of
       customers per system is 864. There are 476 community systems, 240 transient non-
       community systems, 31 non-transient/non-community systems, totaling 747 drinking
       water systems. Additional support to the systems is provided by the state because the
       systems are so small. This assistance includes: a web site, annual monitoring schedules,
       certification training, financial assistance, public notices of violations, and in extreme
       cases, notices of violation, orders, and lawsuits. After research, the state concluded that
       there appears to be no public health impact from the sulfates, and thus, no need to
       regulate.  The state has concerns that the new regulations will not substantially improve
       public health, and thus justify the additional costs.  A suggestion of consolidating water
       systems was  presented, so that they are under a public water board  or something of that
       nature. This  would place a group of facilities under the jurisdiction of one manager or
       one operator. Overall compliance rates were 95 percent for MCLs  and 94 percent
       compliance for monitoring.
VI. GROUND WATER REPORT TO CONGRESS-ROBERT BLANCO

•      Section 1429 of the SDWA Amendments of 1996 specifies the need for EPA to compile
       and submit a report to Congress every 3 years. This report needs to detail the current
       status of ground water regulation in individual states and the country as a whole. The
       Comprehensive State Ground Water Protection Program (CSGWP) has been
       implemented to aid states to manage all of the various required ground water activities. A
       workgroup has been formed combining representatives from the Ground Water Protection
       Council, The Association of State and Interstate Water Pollution Control Agencies, the
       Association of State Drinking Water Administrators, USGS, and EPA to compile and
       write the 1999 ground water update report.  The report is scheduled to be ready on or
       around August 6,1999.

•      The general messages which have been considered to present to Congress were
       discussed. There is a need for a better definition of the roles and responsibilities at the
       local, state, and federal levels of government. An improvement of the roles of the
       involved agencies will allow the industry to move quickly with the pace of technology.
       The states are very motivated  to protect their ground water. A demand remains which
       exceeds the existing resources in the ground water industry.  The measurements used to
       make a determination whether adequate protection is occurring in ground water, could be
       dependent on a few factors. The first factor, is the number of states with approved
       wellhead protection programs and the extent to which they are used in local communities.
       A suggestion was made to determine whether individual states are protecting recharge
       areas of aquifers.

•      The report will have individual states' perspective on various drinking water quality
       issues. There will also be a short section using U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) data to
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       present the situation nationally.  Both quality and quantity data will be included in the
       report. A critical issue which was raised was that different regions and areas present their
       data in different forms in different databases, making the consolidation of data across the
       country impossible. A standardized data base and data collection format would be useful.
       Participants supported the use of recommendations at the end of the report in order to add
       focus for the readers.
VII. BRIEFING ON GAP ANALYSIS-ROBERT BLANCO

•      An effort is currently being made to estimate the gap between costs for safe drinking
       water, clean water, and infrastructure needs and available funding .  A joint
       EPA/Association of State Drinking Water Administrators (ASDWA) study estimated the
       gap to be $83 million in 1999. This is after using funds from the SRF program. There is
       uncertainty on how much of the set aside funds can be utilized by each state to keep the
       facilities running.  The Council was asked for possible solutions to decrease the gap.
       Some possible solutions are a simpler rule package, and possibly creating a program like
       the State Program Priorities. The latter would recognize the gap, and help the states to
       prioritize which programs to approach in what order.

•      The gap analysis could be used to further assist the states. There were suggestions that
       Congress should increase funding up to the amount which has been authorized. The
       current authorization level is $100 million.  There is a disparity between funding going
       into the UIC program ($10 million) and the drinking water program ($33.5 originally,
       now increased to $90 million). The UIC program has remained at the same funding level.
       The possibility of simplification of the rules was discussed.  Small systems need to
       remain in the spotlight because that is where the biggest workload is.  The actual ground
       water rules may be difficult to simplify, but the processes involved could be streamlined.
       The importance of public outreach was stressed. This type of public involvement will
       force Congress to support further research efforts and increase funding.

       It is difficult to predict the effect the new UIC legislation will have on cost gap estimates.
       The new operator certification requirements could have a substantial effect on each state
       budget. These new requirements will increase the need for certified operators and the
       number of required certified operators within each state.
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       A participant suggested the use of a treatment with the potential to wipe out a number of
       different contaminants rather then continuing with our contaminant-by-contaminant
       approach. This would elevate the need for 75 different analyses on each specific
       chemical. A discussion ensued noting that if a treatment were available which created
       ultra clean water, the existing distribution pipe systems would not be adequate for the
       transport of such ultra clean water.
VIII. NDWAC AGENDA FOR UPCOMING YEAR

•      The NDWAC needs to be consulted on all the National Primary Drinking Water
       regulations. Feedback on the Radon and Arsenic rules will be solicited at the next
       meeting. The agenda for a fall meeting would include recommendations from the Right-
       to-Know workgroup, the Health Providers workgroup, the Small Systems workgroup, and
       the UlC/Source Water workgroup. The Containment Candidate List workgroup will be
       relaunched after the next meeting.  The need for so many workgroups may diminish as
       the workload decreases.

•      Suggested issues to be discussed at the fall meeting include alternative drinking water
       systems and the general security of drinking water systems. The FDA has been invited to
       speak at the next meeting.  The 2001 budget will also be discussed.

•      The Futures Forum will be held on December 16, 1999.

       The NDWAC fall meeting will be held November 2nd through 4th, 1999 in Baltimore,
       Maryland.

•      The Meeting was adjourned at 5:45 p.m.
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    I certify that, to the best of my knowledge,
    the foregoing minutes are complete and
    accurate.
    L.D. McMullen, Chair, National Drinking
    Water Advisory Council
    Date
    Charlene E. Shaw, Designated Federal
    Officer, National Drinking Water Advisory
    Council
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ATTACHMENT 1

                NATIONAL DRINKING WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL
            RECOMMENDATIONS RESULTING FROM A MEETING HELD
                                MAY 5 AND 6,1999

       The National Drinking Water Advisory Council (NDWAC) held its Spring 1999 meeting
at the State Game Lodge, Custer State Park, Custer, South Dakota. The major focus of the
meeting was to discuss small and Tribal systems, take action on the Underground Injection
Control (UlCySource Water and Right To Know Working Groups' reports, and to update the
Council on the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) upcoming regulations. Council
recommendations were made on the following:

Right-To-Know Working Group Report

The Council discussed and made recommendations to EPA as follows:

Recommendation 1: Information Dissemination

NDWAC recommends that EPA should make information about Consumer Confidence Reports
(CCRs) available to Health Care Providers.

1.     Given the October 19, 1999, deadline for the distribution of CCRs by drinking water
       suppliers (and the fact that some water suppliers are already releasing CCRs), NDWAC
       strongly recommends that the EPA prepare and disseminate the following information to
       Health Care providers prior to the CCR release date:

             •      General health effects questions and answers
             •      General CCR one-pager (why this is important to Health Care Providers)
             •      Questions specifically addressing health impacts for vulnerable
                   populations including recommendations for prevention, information for
                   pregnant and nursing women, immunocompromised persons, etc. (See
                   Note 1 below for example)
             •      Contaminant fact sheets
Note 1: Examples of questions and answers for persons with special needs:

2.     What if I have special health needs?

A.    People whose immune system is weakened are likely to get infections from bacteria or
      viruses that may be in your drinking water. Your immune system can be weakened if
      you:
      •      are HIV positive or have AIDS;
      •      are an organ transplant recipient;
      •      are on chemotherapy for cancer treatment

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       •      are taking steroids for a medical condition (some medical conditions for which
             steroids may be prescribed include arthritis, lupus, colitis, and some skin
             disorders).

B.     This information when developed, should go onto its own place on the web site.

C.     Therefore, the Right to Know Working Group should be given materials to review and
       comment on in a timely fashion to ensure adhering to the October 19, 1999, deadline.

1.      NDWAC recommends that EPA quickly:

       A.    -      Inventory upcoming meetings of major health care provider (HCP)
                    organizations and state and local health departments.

             -      The Agency should then partner with key members of the NDWAC Right
                    to Know Working Group and the NDWAC Health Care Provider Outreach
                    and Education Working Group to make presentations on the CCR at the
                    meetings and to distribute HCP "tool kits."

       B.    Work with partner HCP groups and others (CDC, ASTDR) to place very brief
             notes/updates in journals and newsletters (e.g. JAMA, Pediatrics, MMWR,
             Harvard and Tufts newsletters, etc.)

       C.    Work with partner organizations who can reach vulnerable populations and the
             general public (HCPs, vulnerable subpopulation groups, conservation, community
             groups, etc.) To do active public education on CCRs through national/regional
             meetings before the October 1999, deadline for CCRs and thereafter.

Recommendation 2: Working with NDWAC's Health  Care Provider Outreach and
           Education Working Group

NDWAC recommends that the Right to Know Working Group seek comments and advice from
the NDWAC Health Care Provider Outreach and Education Working Group

1.      NDWAC recommends that messages and materials developed on Consumer Confidence
       Reports and health effects for the general public, pursuant to recommendations from the
       NDWAC Right to Know Working Group, be reviewed by the NDWAC Health Care
       Provider Outreach and Education Working Group.

2.      NDWAC recommends that materials prepared for the general public on CCRs be
       distributed by EPA and its partners to health care providers (to whom the public will be
       directed with questions). Distribution channels and strategy should be coordinated
       between the Right to  Know Working Group and the Health Care Provider Working
       Group; therefore, there should be an opportunity for representatives of the two working
       groups to meet together as soon as possible.

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Recommendation 3: Need for Other Than English Materials

NDWAC recommends that EPA should, as quickly as possible, translate basic materials on the
CCR into languages such as Spanish, Russian, and Chinese (e.g. languages spoken by sizable
numbers of new immigrants and other non-English speakers.)

Recommendation 4: Listing of Non-EPA Sources for Additional Drinking Water
Information

NDWAC recommends EPA collect and provide a list of sources for CCR Information, as
identified by the NDWAC Right to Know Working Group members.  EPA should maintain this
bibliography in the Water Resource Center.

Recommendation 5: Completion and Distribution of Recommended Materials

NDWAC recommends that products drafted pursuant to recommendations forwarded after the
November 1998 Council meeting be edited in accordance with the Right to Know Working
Groups' comments and made available to the public as soon as possible. Products include:
"Where To Go For More  Information About Your CCR," "It's Your Drinking Water- Get to
Know It and Protect It," and "Public Drinking  Water Information."
UlC/Source Water Working Group Report

After much discussion the Council made the following recommendations:

ISSUE: The proposed regulation would regulate motor vehicle wells in Source Water Protection
Areas for Community Water Systems and NonTransient-NonCommunity Water Systems that use
ground water. EPA sought comment in the preamble as to whether or not limiting the rule to the
Source Water Protection Areas (SWAPs) was appropriate.

Recommendation 1: The Council recommends that new motor vehicle wells would be regulated
on a statewide basis immediately.  Regulate existing motor vehicle wells according to a State
specific plan which would phase in additional priority areas over time. A State's plan would
follow the outline below:
             Apply rule in SWPAs by May 2003
       •     Add other sensitive areas, as designated by the State, according to a plan and
             schedule developed by the State.

ISSUE: The proposed regulation provides 90 days for owners and operators of existing wells to
comply with the rule. The 90 days would begin after a State has completed the local source
water assessment.  States could grant a one year extension under certain circumstances.

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Recommendation 2: The Council recommends that owners and operators of existing wells
should have one year to comply and States should have the authority to grant a one year
extension.

ISSUE: If a State does not complete its local assessments by May 2003, the proposal would
require that the rule be applied statewide.

Recommendation 3: The Council recommends that the rule apply statewide by January 1, 2004
or 42 months after SWPA approval. If the State completes SWPA, it reverts back to
implementation set forth in Recommendation 1.

ISSUE: EPA co-proposed two alternatives for the regulation of motor vehicle wells and the
working group proposed a third option.

Recommendation 4: The Council recommends the following:

       •     Ban new motor vehicle wells
       •     Ban existing motor vehicle wells in SWPAs
       •     Ban existing motor vehicle wells in sensitive areas
       •     Existing wells in other areas, ban with waiver

ISSUE: The proposed use delineates minimum conditions for motor vehicle owners and
operators to receive a permit under the waiver option: (1) The permit must include a sampling
plan for liquid and sludge; (2) The permit must include operation and maintenance requirements;
and (3) To receive a permit, injected fluids must meet MCLs or other health-based standards.

Recommendation 5: The Council recommends that permits must include the following
additional provisions:
A.     The owner or operator must sample to determine the baseline quality of ground water.
B.     The permit must specify that injection of waste must not degrade-the current quality of
       the water, or must meet MCLs, whichever is most stringent.
C.     To ensure non-degradation of ground water, the permit must include continued ground
       water sampling.
D.     The permit must specify, based on the baseline quality of ground water, that no new
       substances can be introduced.
E.     The permit must specify that MCLs, other health-based standards, or Best Available
       Technologies (BATs) are utilized, whichever is most stringent.

ISSUE: Regulated entities indicated a need to dispose of snow and ice melt from cars, as well as
carwash wastewater, into injection  wells.  They wanted to know how they can continue this
practice without having the well designated as a motor vehicle well.

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Recommendation 6: The Council recommends that a well inside a motor vehicle facility could
be reclassified if:

A.     The owners and operators follow steps required for well closure prior to well conversion,
       including:
       •      Cleaning all flow lines leading from the sump/dry well discharge point.
       •      Testing sludge to determine whether it is hazardous
       •      Disposing of sludge properly
B.     Recycling of waste materials (such as oil, solvents & antifreeze) is documented.
C.     Maintenance bays and chemical storage are physically separated from the converted well
       by a curb or berm
D.     No maintenance activities are conducted in the area of the converted floor drain
E.     No chemicals are stored in the area
F.     Permanent signs are posted indicating well conversion
G.     If contamination is known to have occurred, remediation will be needed.

It is further recommended that the well can receive rainwater,  snowmelt and/or carwash waste
water.

ISSUE: The proposed regulation required industrial wells in SWPAs to meet MCLs at the point
of injection. Industrial wells  as defined in the proposed rule as "wells used to inject non-
hazardous waste waters generated by industrial, commercial, and service establishments."

Recommendation 7: The Council recommends the rule be implemented as follows:

       •      Phase-in the rule to areas beyond the SWPAs using the same approach as with
              motor vehicle  wells in Recommendation 1.

ISSUE: Should exceedences  of MCLs and other health-based  standards be allowed for motor
vehicle and industrial wells?

Recommendations 8: The Council recommends that industrial wells be handled the same as
motor vehicle wells as stated  in Recommendation #4:

       •      Ban new industrial wells statewide
       •      Ban existing industrial wells in SWPA
       •      Ban existing industrial wells in sensitive areas
       •      Meet MCLs at the point of injection in all other areas

ISSUE: Should large capacity cesspools be banned in SWPAs?

Recommendation 9: The Council recommends a ban on new  and existing large-capacity
cesspools statewide.

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ISSUE: The proposed rule requires owners and operators in Direct Implementation (Primacy)
States to (1) Notify the UIC Program Director of their intent to close their well at least 30 days
prior to closure, and (2) submit new inventory information to EPA if they convert their well in a
SWPA (new conversions to cesspools and motor vehicle wells would be prohibited).

Recommendation 10: The Council recommends that pre-closure notification and inventory
requirements for Primacy States be required.

ISSUE: The proposed rule seeks to differentiate wells at industrial and motor vehicle facilities
that accept industrial waste from wells that receive primarily storm water runoff. Storm water
wells are not subject to this regulation.

Recommendation 11: The Council recommends that storm water wells at industrial sites be
separate from industrial wells. Use a list similar to the no-exposure checklist (Attach to identify
which wells are storm water wells and would not be subject to this rule. The list should be in
guidance.

ISSUE: The proposed rule did not identify the point of injection, the place compliance would be
measured. For septic systems, the point of injection is  currently considered to be before the
waste enters the tank.

Recommendation 12: The Council recommends that the point of injection be defined by the UIC
Director.

ISSUE: Funeral homes are currently included in the industrial well category. In March 1998, the
National Funeral Directors' Association submitted a report requesting that these wells be placed
in the "other industrial" category currently included in the Class V Study and not subject to the
proposed rule.  Should funeral homes be kept within the industrial well category?

Recommendation 13: The Council recommends that funeral homes should be kept within the
industrial well category, as currently proposed.

ISSUE: What topics should be addressed and how should the membership change in future
meetings of the working group?

Recommendation 14: The Council recommends that in addition to the general Class V and
Source Water issues in the mission, the working group continue to assist the Council in advising
EPA on:

A.     Making recommendations concerning technical/programmatic guidance to implement the
       final Class V Underground Injection Control program regulation.

B.     Establishing  a strategy for assisting States and communities with the completion of their
       drinking water source assessments and their transition to prevention programs.  Elements
       of the strategy would include: "alignment" with other PWSS policies, regulations and

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       programs; determination of technical needs including economical, yet effective, methods
       for identifying sources of contaminants found by PWSs at the treatment facility; means
       for institutionalizing stakeholder partnerships, particularly between upstream water users
       and downstream drinking water consumers; support from other water and environmental
       protection program to address point and nonpoint sources of drinking water
       contaminants; incorporation into smart growth initiatives, etc.

C.     Publishing a manual on the necessary elements of drinking water source protection
       programs to assist States and communities in developing and implementing such
       programs, particularly including public involvement, land-use management and
       contingency planning approaches.

D.     Creating technical methods that will facilitate inclusion of drinking water source
       assessment findings into the updating of the unified watershed assessments.

Furthermore, the Council recommends that the revised working group expand membership to
include farmers and other up-stream businesses along with local watershed-based environmental
organizations.

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          Attachment la:
     CHECKLIST FOR NO-EXPOSURE CERTIFICATION FOR NPDES STORM WATER PERMITTING
                                              Instructions - EPA Form XXX-X

Who May File a No-Exposure Certification                      not  know  your site's  latitude and  longitude,  call 1-800-USA-
                                                               MAPS)
In accordance with the Clean Water Act, all industrial facilities that
discharge storm water meeting  the  definition of  storm water
associated with industrial activity must apply for coverage under a
National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit.
However, permit coverage is not required at facilities that can
certify a "no-exposure" condition exists.  This document may be
used to certify that at the facility described herein, a condition of
no-exposure exists.  This certification is under the auspices of the
EPA only and must be made at least once every five years. Should
the industrial activity change such that a condition of no-exposure
no longer exists, this certification is no longer valid and coverage
under an NPDES storm water permit must be sought.

Definition of No-Exposure

No-exposure exists at an  industrial facility when all  industrial
materials  or activities, including,  but not limited  to,  material
handling  equipment,  industrial  machinery,  raw  materials,
intermediate products, by-products or waste products, however
packaged, are protected by a storm-resistant shelter so as not to be
exposed  to  rain,  snow,  snowmelt, or runoff.   Adequately
maintained mobile equipment (trucks, automobiles,  trailers or other
such general purpose vehicles found  at the industrial site  which
themselves are not industrial  machinery or material handling
equipment and which are not leaking contaminants or are not
otherwise a  source of industrial  pollutants) may  be exposed to
precipitation or runoff.

Completing The Form

You must type or print in the spaces provided only.  One form
must be  completed for each facility  or  site  for  which you are
seeking to certify no-exposure.

Section I.       Facility Operator Information

Provide the legal name (no colloquial names) of the person, firm,
public organization, or any other entity that operates the facility or
site described in this certification. The name of the operator may
or may not be the same as the name of the facility. The operator
is the legal entity that controls the facility's operation, rather than
the plant or site manager. Enter the complete address (P.O. Box
numbers OK) and telephone number of the operator.

Section n.      Facility/Site Location Information

Enter the facility's or site's official or legal name and complete
street address (directional address OK if no street address exists).
Do not provide a P.O. Box number as  the  street address.  In
addition,  provide the latitude and longitude of the facility  to the
nearest 15 seconds of the approximate center of the site (if you do

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Section HI.     Exposure Checklist

Circle "Yes" or "No" as appropriate to describe conditions at your
facility.  For the purposes of this document, "material" is defined
as any raw material, intermediate product, finished product, by-
product or waste product, however packaged.  "Material handling
activities",   by  definition,  include  storage,  loading and/or
unloading,  transportation or conveyance of a raw material,
intermediate  product,  finished  product,  by-product  or  waste
product.

Interpretation of Results

If you answer "Yes" to ANY of questions a. through r. in Section
III, a potential for exposure exists at your site and you cannot
certify a no-exposure condition exists. You must obtain (or already
have) coverage  under an NPDES  Storm Water permit. After
obtaining permit coverage, you  can  institute modifications  to
eliminate the potential for a discharge of storm water exposed to
industrial activity, and then claim no-exposure and terminate
coverage under the existing permit.

Section IV.     Certification

Federal statutes provide for severe penalties for submitting false
information on this application form. Federal regulations require
this application to be signed as follows:

For  a corporation:  by a responsible corporate officer,  which
means:  (i) president, secretary, treasurer, or vice-president of the
corporation in charge of a principal business function, or any other
person who performs similar policy or decision making functions,
or (ii) the manager of one or more manufacturing, production, or
operating facilities employing more than 250 persons or having
gross annual sales  or expenditures exceeding $25 million (in
second-quarter 1980 dollars) if authority to  sign documents has
been assigned or delegated to the manager in accordance  with
corporate procedures [note,  wording subject to change as a
result of NPDES streamlining, rnd. U],

For a partnership or sole proprietorship: by  a general partner or
the proprietor; or

For  a municipality,  State,  Federal, or other public facility:  by
either a principal executive officer or ranking elected official.

Where To File This Form

Mail the completed form to:

         xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
         xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
         U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (4203)
         401 M St. SW
         Washington, DC 20460
          Parilitv Onpratnr Information

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Name:
Phone:
Address:
City:
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Facility
Facility
City:
State:
Facility/Site Location Information ;
Name:
Address:
State:
County Name: Latitude: Longitt
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Exposure Checklist


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Are any of the following items exposed to precipitation, now or in the foreseeable future, AND is the drainage from these areas
discharged from the site to surface waters of the US or to a municipal separate storm sewer system?
a.
b.
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vehicles used in material handling (excepting adequately maintained mobile equipment). Yes
industrial machinery or equipment
residue from the cleaning of machinery or equipment
materials associated with vehicular maintenance, cleaning or fueling
materials or products during loading/unloading or transporting activities
materials or products at uncovered loading docks
materials or products stored outdoors (excepting products intended for outside use, e.g
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
, cars) Yes
materials or products handled/stored on roads or railways owned or maintained by the certifier Yes
materials or spill/leak residues accumulated in storm water inlets
Yes
residuals on the ground from spills/leaks (including subsurface residuals from percolation) Yes
materials contained in open or deteriorated storage tanks/drums/containers
industrial activities conducted outdoors
materials or products from past outdoor industrial activity
waste material
process wastewater disposed of outdoors (unless otherwise permitted)
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
paniculate matter from roof stacks/vents not otherwise regulated (i.e. , under an air quality control Yes
permit) and in quantities detectable in the storm water outflow.
visible deposits of residuals near roof or side vents
spills/leaks resulting from maintenance of stacks or air exhaust systems
Yes
Yes
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
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                                                                                                    Yes
                             No
 Have you paved or roofed over a large, formerly exposed, pervious area in order to qualify for no-exposure?
 Please indicate approximately how much area was paved or roofed over from the choices below. (Completing this
 question does not influence your qualifying for the no exposure exemption and is for informational purposes.)
                       CHECKLIST FOR NO-EXPOSURE- CBRimCAHON (Ceatlaaea>
IV,     Certiflcation
I certify that there are no discharges of storm water contaminated by exposure to industrial activities or materials from the
facility identified in this document.

I understand that I am obligated to make this certification once every five years to the NPDES permitting authority and, if
requested, to the municipality (or other local government) in which this facility is located providing the facility discharges
storm water into the local municipal separate storm sewer system (MS4).  I understand that I must seek coverage under an
NPDES storm water permit prior to any point-source discharge of exposed storm water from the facility. I understand that
I must allow the permitting authority, or municipality where the discharge is into the MS4, to perform inspections to confirm
the condition of no-exposure and to make such inspection reports publicly available upon request.

Additionally, I certify under penalty  of law this document was  prepared under my direction and that qualified personnel
gathered and evaluated the information submitted. Based upon my knowledge of the personnel directly involved in gathering
the information, the information is true, accurate and complete. I am aware there are significant penalties for providing false
information, including the possibility of fine and imprisonment.
Signed:
Date:
Print Name and Title:

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