Chicago, Illinois
2d Session
 Dec. 11-12, 1968
 Jan. 29, 1969
Reconvened
 Aug. 26, 1969
  Pollution of the Interstate Waters of the
  Grand Calumet River, Little Calumet River,
  Calumet River, Wolf Lake, Lake Michigan,
  and their Tributaries—Indiana-Illinois
        U.S. Department of the Interior—Federal Water Pollution Control Administration

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           RECONVENED 2ND SESSION

                   OF THE

            CONFERENCE

             IN THE MATTER OF

    POLLUTION OF THE INTERSTATE WATERS

                  OF THE

GRAND CALUMET RIVER, LITTLE  CALUMET  RIVER,

 CALUMET RIVER, WOLF LAKE, LAKE MICHIGAN,

  AND THEIR TRIBUTARIES IN THE STATES OF

           INDIANA AND ILLINOIS



             2nd Session held

           December 11-12, 1968
             January 29, 1969

             Chicago,Illinois


                Reconvened

              August 26, 1969

             Chicago, Illinois
          TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

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                CONTENTS
 Murray Stein
 Carl  L.  Klein
 E.  E.  Minney
 R.  E.  Mann
 H.  H.  Galdwell
 G.  Marks
 J.  Karaganis
 L.  W.  Bieker
 Mrs. R.  E. O'Brien
 Mrs. L.  W. Bieker
 Committee on Lake Michigan Pollution
 Mrs. G.  Capstaff
 Mrs. R.  B. Bishop
 G.  A.  Peterson
 C.  Pemberton, Jr.
V.  W.  Bacon
B.  T.  Lynam
A.  J.  Mikva
G.  J.  Gockstetter
H.  J.  Dunsmore
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B. A. Poole                                    227




C. W. Klassen                                  238




M. Garnet                                       242




Summary                                        2^8




L. D. Spears                                   259

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               The conference in the matter of pollution

of the interstate waters of the Grand Calumet River,

Little Calumet River, Calumet River, Wolf Lake, Lake

Michigan, and their tributaries in the States of Indiana

and Illinois convened at 9:30 a.m., Tuesday, August 26,

1969, at the Illinois Room, LaSalle Hotel, Chicago,

Illinois.



PRESENT:

     Honorable Carl L. Klein
     Assistant Secretary
     Department of the Interior
     Washington,  D. C.


PRESIDING:

     Murray Stein
     Assistant Commissioner for Enforcement
     Federal Water Pollution Control Administration
     Department of the Interior
     Washington,  D. C.


CONFEREES:

     H.  W. Poston
     Regional Director,  Great Lakes Region
     Federal Water Pollution Control Administration
     Department of the Interior
     Chicago, Illinois

     John Egan
     President
     Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago
     Chicago, Illinois

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CONFEREES (Continued):
     Clarence W. Klassen
     Technical Secretary
     Illinois Sanitary Water Board
     Springfield, Illinois

     Blucher A. Poole
     Technical Secretary
     Indiana Stream Pollution Control Board
     Indianapolis, Indiana
PARTICIPANTS:
     Vinton W. Bacon, General Superintendent
     Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago
     Chicago, Illinois

     L. W. Bieker
     Save the Dunes Council
     Munster, Indiana

     Mrs. L.  W.  Bieker
     American Association of University Women
     Indiana Division
     Munster, Indiana

     Mrs. R.  B.  Bishop,  Chairman
     Environmental Committee
     Rainbow Neighbors
     Chicago, Illinois

     Henry H. Caldwell,  Chief
     Air-Water Pollution Control Division
     Office of Attorney  General
     Chicago, Illinois

     Mrs. Genevieve Capstaff
     Private  Citizen
     Chicago, Illinois

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PARTI_CIPANTS__£Con_tinu.ed) :
     Herbert J. Dunsmore, Director
     Environmental Control
     United States Steel  Corporation

     Merrill Garnet,  Chief
     Federal Activities Coordinations Branch
     Federal Water Pollution  Control Administration
     Great Lakes Region,  Chicago, Illinois

     George J. Gockstetter, Superintendent
     Republic Steel  Corporation
     Chicago, Illinois

     Joseph Karaganis, Attorney
     Businessmen for  the  Public Interest
     Chicago, Illinois

     Bart T. Lynam, Acting Director
     Research and Development
     Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater  Chicago
     Chicago, Illinois

     Robert E. Mann,  State Representative
     Illinois General Assembly
     Chicago, Illinois

     Gerald Marks
     Candidate for Congress
     Wilmette, Illinois

     Abner J. Mikva,  Congressman
     Second Congressional District
     of Illinois

     E. Eugene Minney, Chairman
     Air & Water Quality Task Force
     Indiana Division, Izaak Walton League
     Griffith, Indiana

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PARTICIPANTS (Continued):
     Mrs. R. E. O'Brien
     Water Resource Committee
     League of Women Voters of Illinois
     Chicago, Illinois

     Carlysle Pemberton, Jr., Director
     Office of Technical Programs
     Federal Water Pollution Control Administration
     Great Lakes Region, Chicago, Illinois

     Gunnar A. Peterson, Executive Director
     Open Lands Project
     Chicago, Illinois

     Lawrence D. Spears
     Businessmen for Public Interest
     Chicago, Illinois

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                 LAKE MICHIGAN - CALUMET AREA ENFORCEMENT CONFERENCE
                                   August 26, 1969
ATTENDANCE LIST:
QMC V.K. Abel, Chief
Port Safety
U.S. Coast Guard
610 S. Canal St.
Chicago, 111. 60607

Mrs. A.L. Aronson, Water Chairman
League of Women Voters of Glencoe
1010 Eastwood
Glencoe, 111. 60022

Vinton W. Bacon, Gen'l Supt.
Metropolitan Sanitary District
  of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, 111. 60611

2LT Justo M. Beauchamp
2LT Corps of Engineers
Corps of Engrs., Chicago Dist.
219 S. Dearborn St.
Chicago, 111. 60604

L.A. Beaudin, Chief
Construction-Operations Div.
U.S. Army Corps of Engrs.
536 S. Clark St.
Chicago, 111.  60605

Keith W. Bennett
Chicago News Editor
Iron Age
120 S. Riverside Plaza
Chicago, 111. 60606

L.W- Bieker
Save The Dunes Council
1154 Ridge Road
Munster, Ind.

Harry V. Bierma, Chairman
Clean Streams Commi-ttee
Illinois Audubon Society
Field Museum
Chicago, 111.
L.F. Birkel, Supervisor
Water Management
Republic Steel Corp.
Cleveland, Ohio

Mrs. R. B. Bishop, Chairman
Environmental Committee
Rainbow Neighbors
7535 S. Yates
Chicago, 111. 60649

Carl T. Blomgren
Illinois Sanitary Water Board
1919 W. Taylor St.
Chicago, 111. 60612

R.J. Bowden, Sanitary Engineer
U.S. Dept. of the Interior
Federal Water Pollution Control Admin.
Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Road
Chicago, 111. 60609

Carl Broman
Fuel & Environmental Control
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co.
Indiana Harbor Works
East Chicago, Ind.

John R. Brough, Director
Air & Water Control
Inland Steel Co.
3210 Watling St.
East Chicago, Ind.

Henry H. Caldwell, Chief
Air-Water Pollution Control Div.
Office of Attorney General
  William J. Scott
Room 600 - 130 N. Wells
Chicago, 111.

 William  Dyrez
 1^-335  Park Avenue
 Harvey,  Illinois

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Joseph T. Chantigney
Gen's Vice Chairman
Cook County Clean Streams Cornm.
14823 Evers St.
Dolton, 111.  60419

Mrs. Tasso H. Coin
1037 W. North Shore Ave.
Chicago, 111.  60626

Ruth Collins, Int. Representative
United Auto Workers' Union
5132 W. Harrison St.
Chicago, 111.

G-eza A. Csapo, Vice President
Grand Mere Ass'n, Inc.
P. 0. Box 140
Stevensville, Mich.  49127

David P. Currie
Professor of Law
University of Chicago
Chicago, 111.

Prank E. Dalton, Asst. Chief Engr.
Metropolitan Sanitary District
  of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, 111.  .60611

George Danchi, Sanitary Engr.
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
210 S. Dearborn Ave.
Chicago, 111.  60604

William J. Degutis, Technician
U.S. Dept, of the Interior
FWPCA - Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Road
Chicago, 111.  60609

Edward J. Derwinski
Member of Congress
4th District - Illinois
515 E. 160th St.
South Holland, 111.
Jacky G- Dorsey
Dow Chemical
846 Darlington
Crystal Lake, 111.
60014
S. A. Poust, Engineer
Union Carbide
P. 0. Box 750
Whiting, Ind.  46394

Frederic D. Fuller, Chief Chemist
U.S. Dept. of the Interior
FWPCA - Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Road
Chicago, 111.  60609

George Gockstetter, Supt.
Republic Steel
11600 Burley
Chicago, 111.

David W. Gross
Recreation Resource Specialist
U.S. Dept. of the Interior
Bur. of Outdoor Recreation
3853 Research Park Dr.
Ann Arbor, Mich.  48104

Mrs. Leslie Halkin
Daniel Burnham Committee
663 Greenwood
Glencoe, 111.  60022

Mrs. Henry Hanson
League of Women Voters
704 S. Euclid Ave.
Oak Park, 111.

Ray Hasch
160 E. Illinois
Chicago, 111.

James W. Hedges, Civil Engr. V
City of Chicago
City Hall
Chicago, 111.  60602

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Robert A. Hirshfield,  Consultant
Sargent & Lundy
1^0 S. Dearborn
Chicago, 111.

D. D. Horton, Area Gen'l Attorney
U.S. Steel
208 S. LaSalle
Chicago, 111.

Diana Iseberg, President
Joliet  - League of Women Voters
403 E. Palladium
Joliet, 111.

R  Dean Jarman
Business Development Manager
2301 Old Glenview Rd.
Wilmette, 111.  60091

Mrs. Robert Jaskulski, Water Chairman
League  of Women Voters of Milwaukee
120014- N. Ridge Trail
Hales Corners, Wise.  53130

Mrs. Eileen L. Johnston
Water Chairman
Wilmette League of Women Voters
505 Maple Ave.
Wilraette, 111.

William E  Jones, Int. Rep.
United  Auto Workers
5132 W. Harrison
Chicago, 111.

Mrs. Paul Kaefer
North Suburban Citizens for Action
3921 Oak Ave.
Northbrook, 111.  60062

Mrs  George Kaiser
261 Beach Rd.
Glencoe, 111.  60022

Joseph Karagayris, Attorney
Businessmen for the Public Interest
109 W. Dearborn
Chicago, 111.
C. W. Klassen, Technical Secretary
Illinois Sanitary Water Board
State Dept. of Public Health
Springfield, 111.  62706

Earl Knight, Industrial Waste Coor.
Metropolitan Sanitary District
  of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, 111.  60611

Harley F. Lavhead, Acting Chief
Engineering Div.
U.S. Army Engineer Div.-North Central
536 S. Clark St.
Chicago, 111.  60605

Chin-Dee Lee
95 Kwanmin 2nd Rd.
Chungksin New Village
Nantou, Taiwan

Benn J. Leland, Engineer-in-Charge
Illinois Sanitary Water Board
1919 W. Taylor St.
Chicago, 111.  60612

Roscoe W. Libby, Chief
Technical Activities Branch
U.S. Dept  of the Interior, FWPCA
GLR - Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Road
Chicago, 111.  60609

Bart T. Lynam, Act. Director of R&D
100 E. Erie
Chicago, 111.  60611

James J. McPolin, Asst. Attorney Gen'l
Illinois
130 N. Wells
Chicago, 111.

Robert E. Mann
State Representative
111. General Assembly
22 W. Madison
Chicago, 111.

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Gerald Marks
Candidate for Congress
2738 Lincoln Lane
Wilmette, 111.

Nicholas J  Melas, Trustee
Met . San . Dist . of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, 111.  60611

E. Eugene Minney, Chairman
Air & Water Quality Task Force
Indiana Div. Izaak Walton League
228 N. Raymond
Griffith, Ind .  k6 319

Marianne Nichols
2805 N. Clark
Chicago, 111.  60657

Mrs. Robert E. O'Brien
Water Resource Committee
League of Women Voters of 111.
679 Madison St.
Chicago, 111.
C. R. Owribey
U.S. Dept. of the Interior
FWPCA - Great Lakes Region
33 E. Congress Parkway, Rm.
Chicago, 111.  60605
Harry M. Pawlowski, Administrative Engr,
Dept . of Water & Sewers
Room kOk - City Hall
Chicago, 111.  60602

Carlysle Pemberton, Jr., Director
Office of Technical Programs
U.S. Dept. of the Interior, FWPCA
Great Lakes Regional Office
33 E. Congress Pkwy., Rm. hlO
Chicago, 111.  60605

C. K  Phenicie
Fisheries Res. Specialist
Bur. of Sport Fisheries & Wildlife
U.S. Dept. of the Interior
Federal Building
Minneapolis, Minn,
Eugene Pinkstaff, Sanitary Engineer
U.S. Dept. of the Interior, FWPCA
Great Lakes Regional Office
33 E. Congress Pkwy., Rm. UlO
Chicago, 111.  60605

J. E. Ponder
1710 Fletcher
Chicago, 111.  60657

Clifford Risley, Jr., Director
U.S. Dept. of the Interior, FWPCA
Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Rd.
Chicago, 111.  60609

Erskine G. Roberts, Principal Engr.
Environmental Engineering Div.
P&W Engineers, Inc.
309 W. Jackson Blvd.
Chicago, 111.  60606

Mrs. Samuel Rome, Water Resources Chairman
League of Women Voters of Chicago
67 E. Madison St.
Chicago, 111.  60603

Phillip Rothenberg, Senior Asst  Atty.
Met. San. Dist. of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, in.  60611

Leroys Scarce, Chief
Laboratory Services Branch
U.S. Dept. of the Interior, FWPCA
Lake Michigan Basin Office
1819 W. Pershing Rd.
Chicago, 111.  60609

Robert E. Scheible, Chief Sanitary Engr.
Hq. 5th U.S. Army
Fort Sheridan, 111.  60057

Roger G. Seaman, A A President
Met. San. Dist. of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, 111.  60611

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Mrs. Charles E. Seller
Northbrook League of Women Voters
1500 Chapel Court
Northbrook, 111.  60062

John R. Shaeffer
1307 E. 60th St.
Chicago, 111.

Alan G. Slingo, P.E., San. Engr.
Department of the Navy
Code 11 A
Midwest Div. NAVFAC
Building 1 A
Great Lakes, 111.  60088

Lawrence D. Spears, Staff
Businessmen For Public Interest
109 N. Dearborn
Suite 1005
Chicago, 111.  60602

Frances Starnes
Met. San. Dist. of Greater Chicago
100 E. Erie St.
Chicago, in.  60611

Shirley Starr, Projects Coordinator
Center for Urban Studies
University of Chicago
5852 University
Chicago, 111.  60637

Fred 0. Sullivan,- Hydraulic Engr.
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Room 686
219 S. Dearborn
Chicago, 111.  6060k

Jane Sutter
Developmental Program for
  Comprehensive Health Planning
600 S. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, 111.  60605
R. L. Toering, Gen'l Supv.
Fuel & Steam Engr.
U.S. Steel - Gary Works
1 N. Broadway
Gary, Ind.

Patricia Tosto
GASP
719 W. Waveland
Chicago, 111.

Mrs.  Donald Trump, Water Resources Chairman
League of Women Voters of Indiana
Route 2, Box 26
Valparaiso, Ind.  46383

Mrs. Alan G. Tsemis
Chicago Heights League of Women Voters
36l Iris
Chicago Heights, 111.  60>fll

A. W. Tuemler
Asst  to Works Chief Engineer
U.S. Steel Corp.
3^26 E. 89th St.
Chicago, 111.  60617

Stan Twardy, P. R.xCoordinator
  and Water Cons.
Standard Oil Co.
910 S. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, 111.

Cathleen Urbain
Dept. of Anthropology
University of Minnesota
7835 Elmgrove Drive
Elmwood Park, 111.

James C. Vaughn, Engr.
Water Purification
100 E. Ohio St.
Chicago, 111.  60611

DeYarman Wallace, Research Supv.
Youngstown Sheet & Tube
P. 0. Box 900
Youngstown, Ohio

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Mrs. Isabel B. Wasson
Oak Park League of Women Voters
606 Thatcher Ave.
River Forest, 111.  60305

Merle Wolf
55^ Longwood Ave.
Glencoe, 111.

Caroline V. Young, Reporter
The Calumet Publishing Co.
9120 Baltimore
Chicago, 111.  60617

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              Opening Statement - Mr. Stein
                   OPENING STATEMENT




                          BY




                      MURRAY STEIN








               MR. STEIN:  The conference is open.




               This session of the Conference in the




Matter of Pollution of the Interstate Waters of the




Grand Calumet River, Little Calumet River, Calumet River,




Wolf Lake, Lake Michigan, and Their Tributaries in the




States of Indiana and Illinois is being held under the




provisions of Section 10 of the Federal Water Pollution




Control Act, as amended.  Under the provisions of the




Act, the Secretary of the Interior is authorized to




initiate a conference of this type when requested to do




so by a Governor of a State and when on the basis of




reports., surveys, or studies, he has reason to believe




that pollution subject to abatement under the Federal




Act is occurring.




               The first session of the conference was

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              Opening Statement - Mr. Stein






held in March 1965 at Chicago.  We had a technical sessio^i




on January 4-5,1966.  The conference was reconvened in




executive session on  January  31 - February   I,   1960.




The conference conclusions were announced at a public




meeting held February 2, 1966.  ,We also had a second




session of the conference in December 1968 and January




1969.   In addition, we have had two progress evaluation




meetings in connection with this conference.




               Let me try to give  some perspective in




this.  As a result of  this Federal-State enforcement con-




ference, we probably  have occasioned the largest munici-




pal industrial cleanup of wastes which contribute to




water pollution that  we  have had in the country.  This




has cost many millions of dollars.   You have seen the




results throughout the lake and particularly in the lower




end of the lake.  We  have many, many industries and citie



involved.  I think that all hands  are agreed,  whether it




is the municipalities, the industries, the State govern-




ment, the local governments and the Federal Government




as to what has to be  done.  There  appears to be no dis-




agreement on that.  The question that we are concerned wi



is when this is going to be done.

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              Opening Statement - Mr. Stein






               For most of the cities and the industries




in the area, we have had compliance with schedules* works



have been put in and they are operating.  There are



several industries that we have to look at rather care-



fully today to see if they are in line with this schedule



The purpose of this conference is to bring together the



official State agencies and the Sanitary District, repre-



sentatives of the United States Department of the Interio



and other interested parties to review the existing



situation and to lay a basis for future action by all



parties concerned and to give the States,  localities and



industries an opportunity to take any indicated remedial



action under State and local law.



               Conferees here represent the States and



the Sanitary District.



               Indiana is represented by Mr.  Blucher



Poole.



               The Federal conferee, to my left, is Mr.



H. V. Poaton, Regional Director.



               To my far right is Mr. Clarence Klassen



of Illinois.



               Mr. John Egan of the Sanitary District.

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              Opening Statement  -  Mr.  Stein

                And to my right is  the  Assistant  Secretary
 of  the  Department of the Interior,  the Honorable Carl  L.
 Klein.
                And my name is Murray Stein.
                We will make a transcript of the  conferenc
 which will be available to you through your State  agencie,
 and you can  apply to them for that  and keep up the normal
 Federal-State relationships.
                I would ask that  anyone other than  the
 conferees making a statement come  to the lectern and
 identify himself  as to name and  organization, for the
 purpose of the  conference.
                As I pointed out, this  conference is
 designed to  get at the dates of  these time schedules.
 However,  I am aware that there are  several people  in the
 audience who would like to make  statements.  Most  of the
 people  who have talked to me have  indicated that their
 statements are  very short.  I would hope, since  we have
 been over this  ground so many times, that the people who
 will make these statements—and  we  are not going to keep
 anything out of the record, anything that is pertinent
 will be put  in  the record and you  will have an opportunity

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to say what you feel you have to say, but I ask you to




please try to keep the statement as short and as succinct




as possible.  As we proceed, or in the first break, it




would be appreciated if anyone who wishes to make a




statement other than the official agencies concerned and




the industries, that is citizens groups and others, would




get in touch with Mrs. Piere--would you stand up, Mrs.




Piere--give her your name and the length of your state-




ment, and we will try to arrange for your appearance as




soon as we possibly can.




               For the first statement of the conference,




it is indeed a pleasure for me to call upon my boss, and




I am very fortunate to have a boss like this who has a




long and distinguished career in fighting for water pol-




lution control and clean water,  the Assistant Secretary




for Water Quality and Research of the Department of the




Interior, the Honorable Carl L. Klein.

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                 Hon.  Carl  L.  Klein







                THE HONORABLE CARL  L.  KLEIN



    ASSISTANT  SECRETARY FOR WATER  QUALITY AND RESEARCH



         UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT  OF  THE  INTERIOR







                MR. KLEIN:   Good morning.   We  have some



 copies  of  the  transcript and there  are more "being made



 by FWPCA for the  press, radio  and  television.



                But before I start  on  my statement,  there



 are in  the audience  two people who  deserve recognition,



 a  young man of twelve years of age, Mr. Byrofc, and  Mr.



 Joseph  Chantigney of the Cook  County  Clean Streams



 Committee.  I  saw them back here a  minute  ago.  These



 two,  this 1X-year-old boy  and  Joe Chantigney,  are



 getting the Little Calumet  cleaned  up of  all  the  debris



 by themselves.  This is citizens   antipollution control



 and I thank them  for the work  they  are doing.



                Questions have  been  raised  about the



 reconvening of the Calumet River conference today,



 particularly the  recent reference  to  the .Secretary  on



 two problem areas:  U, S. Steel and Republic  Steel.



                The issue is at what point  does the

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                 Hon. Carl L. Klein






Federal Government take the initiative in combatting




local pollution.



               Secretary Hickel and I took office in



February and March  19&9* and we found that we had



inherited a problem.  U. S. Steel and Republic Steel



had not completed all of their  antipollution measures



by December 31* 1968.  This was the time schedule.  And



therefore, we now had a problem:



               How do you get this pollution abated and



how fast can you get it done?  It is too late to meet



the time schedule.  How fast now can we get the work done



and meet the problem.



               A chronological review of the events of



the previous convening i-s necessary.



               This conference last convened on December



11 and 12, 1968, with an executive meeting thereon on



January 29* 1969-  At those meetings testimony was given



on the progress of  antipollution measures for the Calu-



met River.  The States of Illinois and Indiana testified



on the status of  antipollution measures under their



respective jurisdictions.  The conferees then took



appropriate action on this item.

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                 Hon. Carl L. Klein






               However, the Metropolitan Sanitary Distric




 of  Chicago  (MSDGG)  offered no testimony on the United




 States Steel Corporation or Republic Steel Corporation.




 The record  is strangely silent on these two companies.




               Without such testimony, the Calumet River




 conference  recommended referral of these two problems,




 U.  S. and Republic Steel, to the Secretary of the Interioi




 This was not a unanimous decision.



               The Secretary of the Interior then had to




 secure his  own testimony and evidence to determine the




 Department   position.  Chronologically,  the data we have



 is  as follows:




               (1)  United States Steel delivered their



 plans to the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater



 Chicago in  November of 1968.




               (2)  Republic Steel delivered their plans



 to Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago on



 December 6, 1968.




               (3)  Thereafter—and I call to your atten-



 tion it is  thereafter—the Metropolitan Sanitary District



 of Greater  Chicago participated in this December 11-12




 1968,  enforcement conference here and said nothing about

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                 Hon.  Carl  L.  Klein





 the  proposals  and  plans  of  these  two  companies.   This



 information  was  kept  secret.



                (4)  Federal Water Pollution  Control



 Administration has  determined  that Republic  Steel had



 already  completed  about  40  percent of its  work by



 December 31> 1968,  and that "cheir present  work is to



 complete the final  60  percent.  On April 11,  1969,



 Republic Steel broke  ground for a complete recirculating



 pollution abatement plant which,  as I understand  it, is



 about  seven  days ahead of their completion schedule.



 Their  final  date is December 31,  1970.



            (5) United  States Steel, as  I understand it,



 is still awaiting  word on its  pollution abatement plans.



 The  State of Illinois  has not  yet been  formally notified
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 of the November  1968  delivery-  of  plans; neither has the



 Federal  Water  Pollution  Control Administration.   It is



 my understanding that  the plans and timetable for com-



 pletion  are  agreed, but  that no meeting of the Metropoli-



 tan  Sanitary District  of Greater  Chicago trustees  has



 been called  to validate  the plans  and timetable—despite



 the  lapse of nine  months.



                (6)  There has  been on file in the

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                 Hon. Carl L. Klein




Circuit Court of Cook County a suit for temporary and




permanent injunction; the temporary injunction was issued




March 22, 1968, and was upheld later in the Supreme




Court of Illinois.  The plaintiff is the Metropolitan




Sanitary District; the defendant is United States Steel.




A stipulation was prepared providing for U.'S. Steel to




comply by December 31, 1970.   This was not made public




and FWPCA did not secure a copy until August 15,  1969.




I was informed yesterday that U.  S. Steel has agreed to




the terms of the stipulation  to reduce this pollution



abatement problem.




               Several disquieting questions arise from



all this:




               Firsts-Why was the availability of the




U. S. Steel and Republic Steel plans not disclosed at




the last conference?   Why has this information been kept




from the public?  Is  this withholding of vital informa-




tion  either at public conferences or at correspondence




levels,  to be an example of future local-State-Federal



relationships?




               Second—We would like to know why  the




matters  were referred to the  Department of the Interior.

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                  Hon.  Carl  L.  Klein






 All  of  the  conferees here are  aware  of  the  time-consuming



 delays  built  into the  lawsuit  process  of the  Federal



 Water Pollution  Control  Act in this  case.   For the  public



 information,  the Federal process  would  entail:



               First,  a  180-day notice  or 6 months  to



 the  State  of  Illinois  requiring compliance.



               Second, after the  180-day notice time has



 passed,  convening of a hearing board to determine the



 propriety  of  Illinois  action.



               And third, again after  the hearing board



 action,  a  final  180-day  notice to Illinois  and to polluters



 before  filing suit.



               There are several  discrepancies to be



 found in this procedure  here.



               First of  all,  the  State  of Illinois  could



 and  undoubtedly  would  cure  the defects,  thus  rendering



 the  referral  to  the Secretary  unnecessary.



               Second, and  this is the  important one, the



 delay of fifteen to eighteen months  in  going  to a Federal



 lawsuit  is  intolerable.  The  pollution  could  and should



 be abated  well before  this  time.




               Third,  the Metropolitan  Sanitary District

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                  Hon. Carl L. Klein






 of  Greater  Chicago already has a lawsuit on file  and




 could  have  completed the hearings by now.  Yet nothing




 has  been  done  on  this suit for almost a year.  The  public




 has  a  right  to  full disclosure of all the facts,  testi-




 mony and  evidence on these matters.  If it is possible




 by  any means,  I want pollution abatement now.  If I can't




 have it now  I want it just as soon as I possibly  can get




 it.




                So far, the nine-month delay on U. S.




 Steel  has resulted in nine additional months of polluting




 the  Calumet  River.  The delay must not continue;  action




 must begin immediately and must be complete.  Pollution



 must be the  loser.




               And now we must decide the issue.




               At what point must the Federal Government



 take the initiative in combatting local pollution?   I




 think  it is  clear that the Federal Government should step



 in when local enforcement procedures have broken  down and



 become  ineffectual.




               The conferees will have to decide  whether



 the  Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago has




 the  power and the duty and the authority and the  will to

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                 Hon. Carl L. Klein




complete the fight against pollution in the Calumet




River.




               Since the State of Illinois representative




has asked my office that the State retain Jurisdiction,




I am sure that the State of Illinois will complete what-




ever action is needed in this matter.




               However, if the local and State authoritie




find that they cannot or have not handled a pollution




problem promptly and properly, and this applies not only




to the Calumet River but elsewhere in the United States,




then the Federal Government will step in and follow the




procedures required by the Federal Water Pollution Contro




Act.  The conferees here will have to decide whether loca




and State responsibility and authority has so broken down




that only the Federal Government can secure compliance.




               If that be the case, we have already had




our lines of authority set up if that be the decision




of this conference.




               I expect all conferees here today to take




all of the necessary steps to win the battle against




pollution and win it now.




               Thank you.

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                      E. E. Minney






               MR. STEIN: Thank you, Secretary Klein.




               MR. KLEIN:  You will excuse me, Murray.




 I have  got a  12 o'clock plane to make.



               MR. STEIN:  Yes.  Thank you very  much.




               Of course all the parties will have  an




 opportunity to comment on this, but I think it might be




 well  to have  a few of the short statements first  from




 the people who have come here so the parties concerned




 possibly  can  have a little more time to think and pre-




 pare  their replies.




               First I would like to call on Mr. E.



 Eugene  Minney of the Indiana Izaak Walton League, who has




 a short statement.




               Mr. Minney.








               E. EUGENE MINNEY, CHAIRMAN




              AIR & WATER QUALITY TASK FORCE




          INDIANA DIVISION, IZAAK WALTON LEAGUE




                    GRIFFITH,  INDIANA








               MR. MINNEY:   Mr. Chairman, members of the



 conference.

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                       E.  E.  MInney






                My name is E.  Eugene  Minney and I repre-




 sent  the  National and  Indiana Division of the  Izaak




 Walton  League.   I am also President  of the Northwestern




 I n te r -Chapter Council, which  consists  of fifteen




 different chapters of  the Izaak  Walton League  in Lake,




 Newton  and Porter Counties.




                My statement  this  morning  will  be very




 brief.,  because  we of the  Izaak Walton  League feel that




 all  the talk  has been  done.   Anything  that has  to be




 said  about the  technological  aspects of this problem  here




 has  already been stated over  and  over  and over.   So now




 \ie  feel is the  time for action.   Now we feel is  the time




 to  find out why things haven't been  done.




                We also feel  that  deadlines,  extensions  of




 deadlines, should be at an absolute  minimum. When I say




 minimum,  I mean no more than  19JO.   If Bethlehem Steel




 can  complete  a  facility consisting of  a hot strip mill,




 a plate mill, a tin mill, and a  coal strip mill  in a




 period  of two years, there is no  reason in the world  why




 these problems  haven't been  taken care of by these




 particular companies since 1965.




                The Izaak  Walton  League would like to  take

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                      E. E. Minney






 this  opportunity to thank Inland Steel Company  for




 opening  their doors to us, for showing us  their problems,




 for showing us what they were doing.  We asked  the  other




 companies at the conference the last time  we were here  to




 invite us in and let us see what they were doing, but we




 have  never had the invitation.



               When we asked Inland Steel  to let reporter




 from  the Hammond Times come in there with  us, they  opened




 their doors, invited us in and showed us everything they




 had.  They have completed eleven of twelve  projects  at a




 cost  of  about  $7 million  and  they  have  done  it



 since 1965.




               So I beg you, gentlemen of the panel,



 please, no more extensions.  Please, no more talk.  But



 let us see some action.




               Thank you.




               MR. STEIN:  Thank you, Mr, Minney.




               Any comments or questions?




               If not, may we call on Representative Mann



 of Illinois.




               Mr. Mann.

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                       R. E. Mann









                     ROBERT E. MANN




                  STATE REPRESENTATIVE




                ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY




                    CHICAGO,, ILLINOIS









               MR. MANN:  Mr. Chairman.  My name is




Robert E. Mann.  I am a member of the Illinois House of




Representatives representing the 24th Legislative Distric




which includes the communities of Kenwood, Hyde Park,




Woodlawn and South Shore, all adjacent to Lake Michigan.




I am also Co-chairman of the Democratic Study Group of




the Illinois House of Representatives.  However, this




statement today is issued on behalf of myself and a




large number of my constituents who are vitally concerned




about water and'air pollution.




               As I view the proceedings of this con-




ference and the sessions which have preceded it, I detect




a fragmented approach to the pollution problems which




plague Lake Michigan and our society in general.




               And I would say to my former colleague,




Carl Klein, that I do not think that the Federal Government

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                        R.  E.  Mann




 has  to  wait  for  the  local  government  to act.   This is not



 an either/or procedure.  I think both governments ought



 to be  acting at  top  speed  at  once.


               Water pollution  abatement measures must be



 closely linked with  land-use   management, with  emphasis on



 the  disposal of  solid wastes.   In turn,  air pollution



 abatement  is directly related to land and water manage-



 ment issues.


               If we are to clean up  Lake Michigan,



 alternative  disposal sites must be found for  the thousand;



 of tons of waste matter that  are daily discharged into



 the  lake.  Since the air is not a suitable  alternative,



 the  wastes must  be disposed of  on land sites  which are



 geologically and environmentally suited  for such disposal,



 Programming  action to reduce  the discharge  of pollutants



 into the lake without also programming for  the  disposal



 of these wastes  on land sites is an incomplete  exercise



 of questionable  importance.   Until we,  as a society,  take



 a  total environmental approach  to problems  of environment?



 quality, our efforts here  today likely will result in


 minimum improvements.



               Until the polluting industries precisely

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                       R.  E.  Mann






designate where the waste products are to be utlimately




disposed of, our efforts at such conferences as this




result in futility.  Simply to transfer the location of




pollution cannot be considered a satisfactory answer to




our environmental problems.. For example, to scrub par-




ticulate matter from the air and dispose of the waste




into the lake does not accomplish any antipollution




objective.




               I think that rather than discuss the




possibility of extending the conference deadlines, we




should seek to see that all pollution abatement measures




which were  called for by the earlier conference should




be in place and operable by the end of December 1969.




The Empire  State Building was built in 18 months.



It is hard  for me to see that some of the pollution abate




ment measures technically called for by this conference




could not be fabricated and put in place by the end of




this calendar year.  As evidence of good intentions to




move toward a total environmental approach to the prob-




lems of Lake Michigan pollution, I would call for the




early completion of all abatement measures called for in




an earlier  session of this conference by the end of this

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                       R. E. Mann






calendar year.  This would constitute a first step and




an indication on the part of the industries involved of




their intent to assist public efforts here to reclaiming




and preserving a suitable environmental quality.




               I am going to conclude, but by way of




example I would like to suggest the following schedule




which was set by the Metropolitan Sanitary District and




applied to the Motors Oil Refining Company:




               On August 5   this company was notified by




letter that the company was in violation.   On August 11




there was a court date.  On September 10   they were to



report back to court.  On December 9   the facilities




are to be operative.  All of these dates  are  in 1969.  One



hundred twenty days were allowed to design and construct



abatement facilities.




               This is a small company with limited



resources.  I do not see why larger companies  cannot be



called upon for the same schedule.




               In conclusion,  I ask the Attorney General



to utilize the enforcement powers granted  to  him by the




last session of the Illinois General Assembly.   This  acti




should be taken immediately in order to penalize polluters

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                     H. H.  Caldwel.1





 and  to  serve notice upon  others that the State of Illinoi




 will not  tolerate further degradation of the lake.




                Thank you.




                (Applause.)




                MR.  STEIN:  Thank you, Mr. Mann.




                Are  there  any comments or questions by




 the  conferees?




                If not,  we didn't plan it this way, but




 we  can  hear from the Attorney General's Office, "because




 next we have Henry  H Caldwell,  Assistant Attorney General




 of  Illinois.




                Mr.  Caldwell.








                  HENRY H. .CALDWELL,  CHIEF




            AIR-WATER POLLUTION CONTROL DIVISION




         OFFICE  OF ATTORNEY  GENERAL WILLIAM J. SCOTT




                     CHICAGO, ILLINOIS








                MR.  CALDWELL:  Gentlemen, I wish to thank




 you  for the opportunity to  address this conference.




                As the  other speakers have indicated to




 you, I  think sufficiently clearly, the time for extension

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                                                       •


                     H. H. Caldwell




is past.  -The attitude of the Office of the Attorney


General of Illinois since the 1st of July, when the Act


"became effective,, is not to be bound by the proceedings


or the acts of any board or any agency or any municipalit


               In that connection  we will take action,


as has been suggested; we will ask courts to exercise


their powers in equityj we will even ask for fines as is


provided  by law.  We will use every judicial process whic


we are legitimately entitled to use to effectuate an


abatement and control of pollution problems.


               I wish to say this, and I speak only for


myself.   People want to talk about pollution.  They have


not demonstrated to me in the short time that I have been


in this that they really seriously intend to do very much


about it.  The companies to which reference has b.een made


do not find it profitable, do not find it expedient,  do


not find  it within their budget,  if you will,  to build


devices for pollution control.  Therefore^ they take the


easy way out and secure an extension.


               I talked to an official of one  corporation


and he said to me, "Why, Mr. Caldwell,  the plans you


propose will cost our stockholders about  2-1/2

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                     H. H. Caldwell






cents per share in dividend."




               Now, I am well aware that economic disloca




tion is part of the process of cleaning up the rivers. I




am well aware that air pollution control is part of the




process and that it costs money. But that does not concer




me one bit.




               As a court in New Jersey pointed out in




substantially these words., we are well aware that




economic dislocation is the inevitable result of pollu-




tion control devices.




               The question is not economic dislocation.




It is a question of whether we shall save human lives.




We choose to follow that course and save human lives.




               Thank you.



               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN:  Thank you.   Are there any




comments or questions?



               If not, next we will call on Mr. Gerald




Marks, former trustee of the Sanitary District and a




long-time participant in the fight against pollution.




               Mr. Marks.

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                        G. Marks








                      GERALD MARKS




                 CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS




                   WILMETTE,  ILLINOIS








               MR. MARKS:   As a former Sanitary District




trustee, I am critical of  U.  S. Steel for not cleaning up




their pollution in accordance with the original schedule.




No matter what their difficulty, I believe It was their




responsibility to have acted more aggressively in this



matter.




               But on the  other hand, we also have to




learn from the errors that were made in the handling of




this particular case as well as to the whole fight agains



pollution by government bodies.  The maze of jurisdictions



arguments, the conflict of standards and criteria between




different jurisdictions, the conflict in personalities




and the  fact that every politician and aspiring politiciar




including myself, jump  into the matter from a different



point of view and create  a great deal of confusion.



These are all matters that are helping prevent a more




rapid fight against pollution and could prevent future

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                         G.  Marks




 problems  from being resolved as rapidly as  they could.


                I am familiar with  the Sanitary District


 and  some  of their problems.  I am  familiar  with the  fact


 that Dr.  Joel Kaplovs.ky,who is a former director of


 research  and development there, informed me that as


 early as  1966 the negotiations between U. S.  Steel and


 the  Sanitary District for some reason fell  apart.  I


 know that the relationship  between the Metropolitan


 Sanitary  District and the Illinois Sanitary Water Board


 was  more  a fight between the two than it was  a fight


 against pollution.  These are things  that I believe  are
  N

 causing a great deal of the problem that is manifest here


 today and we are not fighting pollution.


                Now, we can't  relive  all 01 the things


 that happened during this period of time, but we sure as


 heck can  learn from it.  Let's make sure that government


 bodies  work together in the same direction, not separate!^


 as we have had in the past.  Let's make sure  performance


 and  cooperation are the bywords.  We  have the technology


 to fight  pollution.  We have the ability to  do it.   Let'


 not  have  politics and personality  prevent accelerated


 fights  in our pollution abatement  programs.

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                      J. Karaganis






               Thank you.




               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN:   Thank you, Mr. Marks.




               Any comments or questions?




               If not., may we have Joseph Karaganis of




the Businessmen for the Public Interest.




               Mr. Karaganis.








               JOSEPH KARAGANIS, ATTORNEY



           BUSINESSMEN FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST




                    CHICAGO, ILLINOIS








               MR. KARAGANIS:  Good morning, Mr. Chairman



members of the board, ladies and gentlemen.




               My name is  Joseph Karaganis.  I am an




attorney representing a foundation known as Businessmen




for the Public Interest. Since the issue here today is the




conduct of two major industries in relation to the contro




and abatement of water pollution, a foundation founded by




businessmen thought it would be appropriate to state the!



stand on the issues being discussed here today.




               Mr. Minney,  of the Indiana Izaak Walton

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                       J.  Karaganis






 League,  raised a very pertinent question.   It  seemed to




 me  that  he  was saying why do two major companies  who have




 vast  financial resources,  who have  great  technological




 skills,  as  demonstrated  by their places  in  the  industry,




 why is it  that they  take  so long when their counterparts




 in  the industry have met  pollution  deadline schedules?




 Why aren't  they meeting  these schedules?




                I happen  to be representing  a group  of




 citizens that  are fighting these same two companies  in




 the field  of air pollution,  and interestingly  enough,




 there is a  substantial parallel between the activities




 of  Republic Steel and United States  Steel in the  field  of




 air pollution  control and in the field of water pollution




 control.




                ¥e found,  and it is  demonstrated in  the




 record of  this conference in December of  1968, that  pol-




 lution control facilities  are normally placed  on  new




 equipment.  What suffers  is  old equipment.   I  am  not  an




 economist,  but it seems  to me that  a judgment  is  being




 made  here  saying that an  old facility though operative




 has a certain  useful life.  That useful life may be  such




 that  it  is  too expensive  to  place controls  on  that

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                      J. Karaganis






facility because it is going to be retired at a short




date.  At the same time that facility is too useful to




shut down.  So they make a judgment:  let's stall; let's




put our investment in new facilities, in new basic oxygen




furnaces, new electric furnace controls; but let's not




talk about open hearths, let's not talk about blast




furnace capacities.  Let's just continue on as long as




we can.  And it is a businessman's judgment,  it is an




economic judgment.




               Now, that was too long an answer to Mr.



Minney's question, but it is a very pertinent question




that this conl'erence should decide.  Should companies be




allowed to make economic judgments which are  detrimental



to the public interest?  And that is what we  are talking




about here and that is what all our responsibilities are.



               The question that Businessmen  for the



Public Interest submits as the central question for this




conference is whether these industries can continue to



use and abuse not their assets but a public asset.  The




waters belong to us, the citizens, and not U.  S.  Steel




and Republic Steel.  That these industries are polluting



Lake Michigan is indisputable.

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                      J. Karaganis






               There are several alternatives available




to the gentlemen of this conference.  At the one extreme,




the industries in violation can be ordered to shut down,




and several of the conferees present at this table have




that power.  They can be shut down until they can guarantee--




and they say that it is December 31a 1970--until they can




guarantee that they will not pollute.  At the other




extreme, the industries in violation can just be given



carte blanche to continue to pollute.




               The conferees sitting at this table have




apparently concluded without much discussion that shuttin




down polluters is too radical a solution.  Yet Businessme




for the Public Interest submit  that businessmen who vio-




late the law are entitled to no better treatment than




any other criminal, and violating the law is what we have




here.  A narcotics peddler would not be allowed to sell




narcotics one minute after he is discovered.  An industrial




polluter should not be allowed to continue pouring garbag




into our air and water for years after discovered. Indeed




trafficking in pollution may be much more destructive to




the public interest than trafficking in narcotics.




               Nevertheless, you gentlemen apparently

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                      J. Karaganis






have concluded that pollution will be allowed to continue




as long as polluters are engaged in what you say is a




good faith attempt to abate their pollution.  Deadlines




can come and go, Lake Michigan can continue to die and




violators go unpunished.



               ¥hat about the polluters who ,have demon-




strated a clear-cut contempt for the public interest?  By




your action in referring the United States Steel and




Republic Steel question to the Secretary of the Interior,




you apparently decided that U. S. Steel and Republic




Steel have acted in bad faith.  Yet, as Assistant Secre-




tary Klein clearly pointed out, the Federal Government




under existing legislation is relatively impotent in con-




trolling the kind of pollution we are dealing with today.



The time schedules are much too long.




               I suggest in response to the difficulties



that' the Assistant Secretary suggested that the Depart-




ment of the Interior present to Congress,  the President




present to Congress-, remedial legislation  suggesting or




requiring the Federal Government and allowing the Federal




Government to take action.  However, as Secretary Klein




pointed out, there are other agencies who  can take acti

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                      J. Karaganis






on a very rapid basis here, including the Federal




Government in a different Department.




               Under the Federal River  and Harbor  Act,




criminal prosecution is called for for those who pollute




navigable waters.  As a legal question,  I don't think




there is any doubt that United States Steel and Republic




Steel are polluting navigable waters in violation of the




Federal River  and Harbor  Act.  Our local United States




Attorney, Mr. Foran, could and should enforce this law.




               The Metropolitan Sanitary District has




apparently taken the position that v/e will sue, but if




United States Steel gives us their word that they are




going to stop polluting, we will settle the lawsuit.  I




submit that United States Steel's past actions, both in




air pollution and water pollution, do not justify such




trust.




               Secondly, Mr. Caldwell here has made a




very aggressive statement on behalf of the Illinois




Attorney General.  The Illinois Attorney General under




recent legislation does have the power to go in and shut




down a plant if necessary on a very short schedule.




               And finally there was a point that

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                       J.  Karaganis






 Representative  Mann  made,  that if a Nation that can go




 to  the  moon--and  I am  sure  that United States Steel and




 Republic  Steel  take  partial credit  for supplying some




 of  the  materials  in  the moon program—if  a Nation can go




 to  the  moon,  it certainly can build and install the kind




 of  equipment  that we are  talking about in the shortest




 possible  time.  Remember.,  United States Steel was talking




 at  one  time #t?out 1972.   The 1970 figure  isn't their



 figure; it is a compromise  figure that was  worked out




 with  enforcement  authorities.   So that, I think,  is one




 last  bit  of evidence about  the  kind of good faith we are



 talking about.




                Thank you.




                (Applause.)



                MR. STEIN:  Thank you.




                Are there  any comments  or  questions?




                Just  speaking for the conferees,  I have



 two very  brief  comments.   One,  I don't think  that the




 conferees  arrived at any  conclusions that I  know  of--and




 I have  known  these conferees  for a  long time—without



 considerable  discussion.   I never heard a conclusion



 arrived at without discussion.

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                      L. ¥.  Bieker






                And  secondly,  I  want  to  make  it  clear  for




 the  record,  as  far  as I  understood the  recommendations




 of the  conferees ,there has  been no implication  in  the




 conferees'  recommendations  that we have made  in  this




 case  that United States  Steel,  Republic or any  other




 company was  proceeding in bad faith.  I don't see  that




 in the  record at all.




                I will call  on a husband and  wife team,




 Mr.  and Mrs. Troy.  Who do you want to go  first?








                      L. W.  BIEKER



                 SAVE THE DUNES COUNCIL




                     MUNSTER,  INDIANA








                MR.  BIEKER:  -Mr.  Chairman, members  of the




 Board.



                My name is L.  ¥.  Bieker.   I am a member




 of the  Save  the Dunes Council.   I reside  in  Munster,




 Indiana.  I  am  speaking  today in behalf of or for  Mrs.




 Troy, who is unable to be here.



                (Whereupon,  Mr.  Bieker read the  following




 letter:)

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                $D
                • - ,t'f>.''
  PRESIDENT
 MRS. J. H. BUELL

1111 OGDEN DUNES

PORTAGE, INDIANA
                                     Please  reply to:
                                                           TREASURER
                                                         MRS. J. C. B. SIMS
                                                            BOX 303
                                                       CHESTERTON. INDIANA
                                                       1512 Park Drive
                                                       Mans te r,  Indlana
                                                       46321

                                                       August 26, 1969
Chairman of Hearings
Calumet Enforcement Conference on Lake Michigan
LaSalle Hotel
Chicago, Illinois

Sir:

The Save the Danes Council has tried for many years to conserve
the quality of important parts of the shoreline and waters of
Lake Michigan for the public good.  Only through serious com-
promise allowing industrial installations on the Calument area
beaches was it possible to get Congress to establish a National
Lakeshore park.  The methods used by industry to fulfill its
wants and the effects of those industries on the waters and
shoreline have been obvious and regretable.

Because of our experience we speak strongly for forceful applica-
tion of controls and increased protections against the misuse of
our precious water resources.  We have had to look to the co-
operative efforts of Illinois and Indiana state agencies to put
into effect the terms of the federal controls to protect against
misuse of our precious and scarce water supply.  Because the lake
seems large and unending as a source, we fail to recognize that
this area is second in the nation in scarcity of per capita supply.

We cannot countenance any further delay or any relaxing in the
standards that are required now and urge the hastening of fulfill-
ing requirements and shortening of deadlines and equitable appli-
cation of requirements.  Industry has a powerful voice and a vor-
acious appetite.  Misuse of our water resources by municipalities
as well as state and federal government installations only worsens
the situation by setting bad precedents.  We hope this conference
can come to a firm decision to apply and improve controls on all
of us.

                                               Respectfully submitted,


                                                               ^
                                                       ^AAXv^^    fMr-M

                                                TMrs.JM.JSylvIa Troy,  \

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PURDUE UNIVERSITY, LAFAYETTE, IND.

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                      L. W. Bieker






               MR. BIEKER: Thank you, gentlemen.




               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN:  Any comments or questions?




               If not, thank you.




               Are we going to have a statement from Mrs




Troy and the Izaak Walton  League or does this constitute




her statement?




               MR. BIEKER:  I believe there is a statemen-




to be made by the Izaak Walton League.




               MR. STEIN:  Who Is going to make that state




ment?




               While that  is decided, may we have Mrs.




Robert E. O'Brien of the Lake Michigan League of Women




Voters?




               (Which said statement was given by Mrs.



O'Brien as follows:)

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LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF ILLINOIS
67 East Madison St., Chicago 60603
                 STATEMENT TO THE CALUMET AREA ENFORCEMENT CONFERENCE

                        BY MRS. ROBERT E. O'BRIEN, REPRESENTING

               LAKE MICHIGAN INTER-LEAGUE GROUP, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS

                                    August 26, 1969
The Lake Michigan Inter-League Group, representing local and state Leagues of Women
Voters in the four'State Lake Michigan Basin, appreciates this opportunity to ex-
press its views on pollution in the Calumet  area of Lake Michigan.

Members of  the League of Women Voters have been in attendance at all sessions of
this conference and were profoundly impressed by the December 11, 1968, report to
the conferees of the Calumet Area Surveillance Unit of  the Federal Water Pollution
Control Administration.  In laymen's terms,  industrial  pollution in this area has
not been greatly reduced since 1965 as had been expected when the conference made
its first recommendations  and established criteria.  Pollution has probably in-
creased because of the addition of sanitary  and industrial wastes which have been
diverted to municipal systems since 1965.  For the most part, water quality has
not improved in the last four years.  We  can only assume that the criteria and
timetable for implementation have failed, both for industries and for the munici-
palities which by-pass treatment plants in times of storm.

We do not recommend punitive action which might delay positive action,,  We urge
this conference to establish realistic completion dates for United States Steel
Corporation and Republic Steel Corporation to comply with criteria.  Following this,
we ask the  Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago to move with all pos-
sible speed to adopt and implement the stipulation between the District and United
States Steel Corporation on a construction program for  the South Works.  A similar
and binding agreement should also be demanded for Republic Steel.

We further  ask the Metropolitan Sanitary  District to reconsider Appendix A of its
Proposed Industrial Waste  Ordinance before adoption.  As written, that portion of
the ordinance would permit all existing sewer systems to continue to discharge to
Lake Michigan after the adoption of the ordinance.  A "grandfather clause" of this
type could  set a dangerous legal precedent which could  adversely affect the future
of Lake Michigan.  We think the original  wording which  prohibited outfalls to Lake
Michigan is essential and  in keeping with the objectives of this conference.

In view of  the intermittent flow of the Calumet River to Lake Michigan, we support
continued jurisdiction by  this conference in all areas  of its original jurisdic-
tion.


                                        continued

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Statement to Calumet Area Enforcement Conference        August 26, 1969   page two
We urge immediate consideration and implementation of any remedial measures recom-
mended by your recently appointed Technical  Committee which would upgrade water
quality.  We cannot wait another four years  for  improvement in the waters of Lake
Michigan and its tributaries.

All members of the League of Women Voters within the  Lake  Michigan Basin support
the Citizens'  Crusade for Clean Water which  asks the  United States Congress to ap-
propriate $1 billion for this  fiscal  year for sewage  treatment plant  construction
as promised by the Congress  in the Clean Water Restoration Act of 1966.   A-sig-
nificant portion of the pollution of  Lake Michigan could be reduced by adequate
grants to the municipalities which must manage increasingly larger sewage loads.
The gap between promise and  fulfillment should not be permitted to widen as the
quality of Lake Michigan water deteriorates.


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                    Mrs. L. W. Bieker






               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN: Thank you, Mrs. O'Brien.




               Any comments or questions?




               If not, may we have Mrs. L. W. Bieker, of




the Indiana Division of the American Association of




University Women.








                    MRS. L. ¥. BIEKEE




                    INDIANA DIVISION




        AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN




                    MUNSTER, INDIANA








               MRS. BIEKER:  We appreciate the opportunit




to make known our views on the issue of enforcing water




quality standards in the Calumet area of Lake Michigan.




The Indiana Division of the American Association of




University Women supports measures that will increase




protection of the public interest in the problem of pol-




lution control and requests that there be no relaxing or




extension of meeting those standards.



               Local governments and industry have pro-




tested against what they have considered too much Federal

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                    Mrs. L. W. Bieker






Government control during the 70 years of attempts




by the national government to correct misuse of  our water




Much of the action by the Federal Government toward help-




ing the public has been dissipated and fractionated spot




patching.  Nevertheless, the public has to depend upon




that control for protection against misuse of our local




and national resources.  We have been glad to see Illinois




and Indiana endeavor to cooperate in setting and enforcing




standards that affect populations of both States but




recognize already that the efforts have not gone far enougl




               No resource seems so important as our




•water supply.  Since the Chicago area is  considered




second in the country in its scarcity of  water on the



basis of per capita needs, we attach great importance




not only to the legislation bearing on water quality and




use but to the proper and equitable enforcement of the



standards set for this area.




               The reports on lake conditions since 1965,



despite efforts by some industries to improve and alter



their facilities for water treatment and  use, indicate




the folly in relaxing at all the requirements set.   Since




additional and larger industries have been permitted to

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                    Mrs. L. ¥. Bieker


be built along the lake shore and powerplants affecting

the water supply and quality have grown in number and

influence, it is obvious that increased destructive

influences on the lake have stiffened the need for even

firmer control in administering the law.

               It is already much too late to consider

lowering the standards or extending deadlines for

enforcement. All over the world it is recognized that

demands of industry completely overwhelm all efforts to

keep pollution in check.  The public has given up far

too much already in losing its proper use of Lake Michi-

gan. When have the economic benefits of careless and

illegal use of our lake water supply been weighed against

the cost of gradual homicide?

               Thank you for whatever improvements you

can influence this conference to make.

               (Applause.)

               MR. STEIN:  Thank you very much, Mrs.

Bieker.

               Any comments or questions?

               If not, we also have a statement of the

Committee on Lake Michigan Pollution, which we will include
in the record.
              (Which said statement is as follows:)

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      STATEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE ON LAKE MICHIGAN POLLUTION
                                    FOR
                   CALUMET ENFORCEMENT CONFERENCE
      	AUGUST 26,  1969	


       It is the presumption of this Committee that United States Steel Corpo-
ration (U.S.  Steel) and Republic Steel Corporation (Republic Steel) will at this
Conference restate their request for additional extensions of time to comply
with the  standards set by the Conferees. In the case of Republic Steel, the
extension is  to be December 31,  1970, and for U.S.  Steel,  November of 1971.

       This  Committee views  with concern the inability or  lack  of motivation
on the part of these  two companies to meet the standards  which their competitors
and other heavy industries have met or  will meet by the end of 1969.  Of all of
the polluters cited at the 1965  Conference,  the two companies in question have
not only  not  complied but have apparently failed to evidence a good faith effort
to comply.

       If all of the other cited polluting companies will have fully complied by
the end of 1969,  the unusual delays  sought by U.S. Steel and Republic Steel
should be granted only  if the Conferees  are satisfied that  these entities are
currently committed under contract to pay,  or have paid, amounts to under-
take the  planning and construction to fully comply with the conference require-
ments within the extension period.

       Secondly, if such extension periods are granted,  that monetary per diem
penalty provisions be established, to go into effect if the polluting company does
not fully comply at the  end of the extended period.  The imposition of such  a
device will provide the apparently needed incentive for full and prompt compliance.

       It is not unfair for the Conferees to put the non-complying companies into
a position of automatic and severe penalties should they,  for any reason., fail to
comply considering the gravity of the situation. They have enjoyed and are
continuing to enjoy the benefit  of full operation at profit in the face of acknow-
ledged pollution of a natural resource in directly affecting the rights of the
nation as a whole and directly  affecting  the right of millions of people  residing
in the Lake Michigan water basin.

       The only remaining alternative remedy, an undoubtedly harsh one as
it would  affect the stockholders and employees of the non-complying company,
is  to require immediate and complete termination of the plant operations that'
are the source of pollution until the pollution abatement equipment and  con-
struction is completed and ready for full and effective operation.

Committee on Lake  Michigan Pollution
2738 Woodbine
Evanston,  Illinois  60201
August 24, 1969

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                      Murray  Stein






               MR. STEIN:   And Congressman Edward J.



Derwinski has asked that the  record be kept open for a



statement of his.  Without objection, that will be done.



               (Which said statement, when received,



will be appended to the end of this transcript.)



               MR. STEIN:   At this point we will recess



for ten minutes and then continue with the agenda.



               (Recess)



               MR. STEIN:   Let's reconvene.



               In order to move this along, we are going



to try to give the other citizen groups who made them-



selves known in the registration this morning an oppor-



tunity for  a statement here.   And I hope in dealing with



this that all citizens, other than official agencies and



the industries, wishing to speak will have done so.  I



ask for your cooperation in trying to go ahead in an



orderly fashion.  As I pointed out, we are not here to



cut anybody off. But I think  that we should have short



and succinct statements.



               One thing that struck me in all the state-



ments that we had this morning was they were short, to



the point and hit specifics.   If we have done nothing els

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                    Mrs.  G.  Capstaff


in the years we have held conferences, I think we have

more incisive and precise citizens' reports.

               I do have a letter here from Mrs. Geneviev

Capstaff that, without objection, I would like to put in

the record.

               (Which said letter is as follows:)
                                  South Bell Avenue
                            Chicago,  Illinois  60643
                            August 6, 1969

Federal Water Pollution Control
219 South Dearborn
Chicago, Illinois

Gentlemen :

               It is imperative that  we do everything

in our power to save Lake Michigan.

               The dumping of oil and waste by the steel

companies must be stopped.  The use  of DDT must cease.

               Do all in your power  to strengthen and

enforce the laws to protect this beautiful and useful

work of nature.

                            Sincerely,

                            (Mrs.)  Genevieve Capstaff.

               MR. STEIN:  And now I  would like to call

on Lois C.  Bishop of the Rainbow Neighbors.

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                    Mrs. R. B.  Bishop






               Mrs. Bishop.








               MRS. R. B.  BISHOP,  CHAIRMAN




                 ENVIRONMENTAL  COMMITTEE




                    RAINBOW NEIGHBORS




                    CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








               MRS. BISHOP:   Good  morning,  Mr.  Chairman,




 members  of  the conference, ladies  and  gentlemen.



               My  name is  Lois  C,  Bishop.   I  am testify-




 ing  today as  the  Chairman  of  the Environmental  Committee




 of Rainbow  Neighbors.



               We  are  a  neighborhood organization in  the




 South  Shore district  of  Chicago, adjoining  Rainbow beach




 and  Rainbow park,  and  located directly to the north of



 U. S.  Steel's South Works.   Our beach  and park  have been




 one  of the  most beautiful  places in the city  and are  used




 and  loved by the  whole neighborhood.  The beach and park




 are  sorely  needed as  a  recreational facility  by a neigh-




 borhood whose population,  particularly of  children, is




 increasing  steadily,  and whose recreational facilities




 and  park land are already considered deficient  by plannink

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                     Mrs.  R.  B.  Bishop




 groups,  including  the  Department  of Planning of the city




 of  Chicago.



                Only  a  few years ago one  could not only




 swim  in  clear  water, but  could  catch good game fish righ




 off  the  piers.   A  sizable fishing industry was located or




 the  lake  also.   The  quality  of  the lake  is deteriorating




 at  an accelerating rate,  and it will be  a massive job to




 restore  it  to  the  clarity we once knew.   We must not con




 tinue to  pollute it  besides.




                We  reject  completely the  contention of




 certain  industries that they have any right to put any addi-
 tives  whatever  into  the  lake.   We  further  reject their c<




 tention  that  the  rights  of  industry  can  ever be consider




 superior to  the rights of  the  citizenry  to enjoy their b:




 right  of clear  air and water in their  own  neighborhood.




                Consequently, we feel that  any chemical




 additives  or  heated  water  used as  cooling  water, or for




 any  other  purpose, should  not  be permitted.




                We support  the  Metropolitan Sanitary Dist




 in its suit  to  force U.S.  Steel to comply  with the oresei




 deadlines.




                We feel very strongly that  the companies




 who  have not  met  the present deadlines should be require*



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                     Mrs.  R.  B.  Bishop






 against  them  for  non-compliance,  both  past  and  present.




               We also  feel  that  no  further extension




 should be  granted to these  companies.




               We understand that two  companies,  Interlak




 and Wisconsin, have  substantially met  the deadlines, and




 it is grossly unfair to them to grant  an  economic  advantage




 to U. S. Steel and Republic  Steel because they  have not




 complied.   Both the  non-complying companies have  been  per




 sistent  and chronic  offenders  in  air pollution  also, lead




 ing us to  suspect that  their attitude  is hardly one of




 public service, despite their  advertisements.




               We do not  see any  reason whatever  why they




 should be  treated any differently than a  company  that has




 been guilty of fraud or theft  or  any other  sort of crimi-




 nal activity.  In fact  since it is our lives and  our




 irreplaceable resources that are  being destroyed  by




 these companies,  we  feel  that  they should be treated




 more severely than ordinary  criminals.




               Thank you.




               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN: Thank you, Mrs. Bishop.




               Any comments  or  questions?

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                      G.  A.  Peterson






                Again  let me make  one statement just for




 the  record  and edification  of  the people here.  The pro-




 cedure  that we are  under here  today,  that is  the Federal




 conference  procedure,  is a  civil  procedure,  not a crimina




 procedure.  This  question was carefully considered by the




 Congress,  and  the  Congress  decided we could  make better




 progress  in this field if we would do this under a civil




 procedure.



                May  we  call  on  Mr.  Gunnar A.  Peterson of




 the  Open  Lands Project.



                Mr.  Peterson.








          GUNNAR  A.  PETERSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR



                    OPEN  LANDS  PROJECT




        53 W. JACKSON  BOULEVARD, CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








                MR.  PETERSON:   Mr.  Chairman and members  of



 the  Calumet area enforcement conference,  I am  Gunnar




 Peterson, Executive Director of the  Open Lands Project




 with  offices at  53  West  Jackson.   The Open Lands  Project




 is a  non-profit, privately  supported  organization  dedi-




 cated to  the preservation of open space  and man's  natural

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                     G. A. Peterson






environment.




               I am here today to urge you to take what-




ever measures are within your power to preserve Lake




Michigan as a multi-purpose resource for open space,




recreation and natural beauty as well as a source of




water for municipal and industrial purposes.




               As a minimum, you must press for mainte-




nance of the water quality standards set by this con-




ference for industries within its jurisdiction.  You must




insist that the standards be met with the dispatch




necessary to preserve the health of the lake, not at



some future time convenient for industries and other




polluters who frag--flagrantly--and I almost said




fragrantly, and I think that would be a good slip



(laughter)--who flagrantly misuse this public resource.




               The inordinate amount of time required by




U. S. Steel to design facilities and acquire materials,



as detailed in their May 1969 progress report, is unjusti




fiable. Their future intentions must be questioned in




light of the fact that so little work had been started




at that point, six months after it was supposed to have




been completed.

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                     G. A. Peterson






               In view of the report to this conference




last December 11, by Robert Bowden of the Calumet Sur-




veillance Unit of the Lake Michigan Basin Office, no




industry, including these steel mills,  or other polluters




such as the Great Lakes Naval Training  Station, one of




our own governmental operations,  should be allowed to




delay further the meeting of water quality standards and




to do so without penalty.  In the technical words of the




report, the water at every intake for the cities of East




Chicago, Hammond and Gary and the Dunne Crib for Chicago,




which supplies our own drinking water,  failed to meet




several important criteria, including that for "threshold



odors."




               In plain words,  it was so polluted it



stank.   This is the water that  residents of these cities




must drink, swim in and hold their noses while looking




at on the shore  because of the pollution this conference




has not prevented in its pollution abatement program




begun almost five years ago. On behalf  of the public that




suffers the greatest consequence  of this failure, we ask




that the conference press forward in causing industry to




remove  all contaminants before  water taken from the lake

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                     G. A. Peterson



is returned to the lake.  Early deadlines for meeting


water quality standards must be maintained., with severe


consequences to the violators when they are not.


               Not only the lake, but the Grand Calumet-


Indiana Harbor Canal system and the Calumet River above


and below the O'Brien Locks must remain within the juris-


diction of the conference through the agencies of which


it is comprised.  According to the surveillance report,


industrial pollution had not been reduced in the Grand


Calumet-Indiana Harbor Canal system and fecal pollution


was reduced only upstream, with the inevitable result


that the water quality had deteriorated further since


1965.  The Little Calumet did not meet criteria, but had


improved slightly in spite of severe pollution from sewer


overflows.


               ¥e question whether pollution has indeed


been dealt with when the method was simply moving it to

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another location rather than by removal by the responsibl


industry at the source.


               The Calumet River between the O'Brien


Lock and the lake must remain within the conference


jurisdiction because of the high level of pollution which

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                      G. A.  Peterson






 flows  toward  the  lake whenever  the wind  is  from the  south




 and  evidently under  other conditions  as  well.   Mr. Vaughan




 of the Department  of Water  of the city of Chicago  reported




 to the conference  last February that  in  29  out  of  47




 weekly observations  the flow was toward  the  lake in  the




 river mouth at the 92nd Street Bridge.



               Finally., this conference  must not only




 prohibit  discharge of industrial and  sewage wastes into




 the  lake  that would  violate present water quality  stand-




 ardsa  it must review its criteria in the light of the




 need to reverse the  eutrophication or death of  the lake,




 not  just  delay it  slightly, perhaps.




               Dependence on assimilation and dilution



 in large  mixing zones is not adequate.   Standards  should




 be met at the outfalls from the sources, not some  distanc




 away,  such as at  the intakes, where responsibility for



 specific  contaminations cannot be assigned.




               In  its review, it is imperative  that  the




 conference add to  its water quality criteria by setting




 standards for heat that will avoid thermal pollution.




               With  the ample scientific evidence  of the



 effects of heat on accelerating growth of algae and

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                      G.  A.  Peterson






 release  of oxygen,  cooling  waters  containing more  heat




 when  discharged  into  the lake  than when -withdrawn  cannot




 be  considered  free  of pollution. Actually,  not  only  heat




 but chemicals  to inhibit rust  and  prevent  growth of  fungi




 are added  deliberately to cooling  waters,  which inad-




 vertently  pick up other  contaminants  in the pipes  through




 which they circulate  in  many industrial systems.   So-called




 recycling  systems that do not  include removal of all such




 substances as  well  as the added  heat  should not be con-




 sidered  effective  antipollution measures.



               In conclusion,  our  views may be  summed up




 as  a  belief  that the  purpose of  this  conference ought to




 be  to preserve the  lake  from as  much  pollution  as  pos-




 sible, not to  make  use of it to  dispose of  as much waste




 as  possible.   Only  then  will we  and all others  who live




 on  its shores  be able to drink it,  swim in  it and  not




 have  to  smell  it.



               Only then will  the  equally  important




 purposes  of providing open space,  recreation and




 clean water  for  people and  industry be served.  U. S.



 and Republic Steel  must  join in  the effort  with all  haste




 to  compensate  for the time  already lost and without

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                      H. ¥. Poston






further delay.




               Thank you.




               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN:   Thank you, Mr. Peterson.




               Any comments or questions?




               If notj at  this point we will call on




Mr. Poston for the Federal  surveillance report.




               Mr. Poston.








                  FEDERAL  PRESENTATION








               MR. POSTON:   I am asking Mr.  Garlysle




Peraberton to make the report of the Technical Committee^




which has access  to all of  the data on quality in the



area.




               Mr. Pemberton.

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                     C.  Pemberton,  Jr.








            CARLYSLE PEMBERTON,  JR., DIRECTOR




              OFFICE OF TECHNICAL  PROGRAMS




         U. S. DEPARTMENT  OF  THE INTERIOR,  FWPCA




      GREAT LAKES REGIONAL OFFICE,  CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








               MR. PEMBERTON:   Mr.  Chairman, conferees



and ladies and gentlemen.




               I am  Carlysle  Pemberton,  Director  of  Technical



Programs in the Federal Water  Pollution  Control Administration,




Great Lakes Regional Office.   I  am presenting a progress




report for the Technical Committee  which was appointed




after the last session.  I will  read from the report.




               The Technical  Committee was  established  in




accordance with the  desire of  the  conferees  expressed at



the third progress evaluation  meeting held  in December




1968 and January 1969.  The Committee was requested to




assess the results obtained thus far byv  conference action!




and to determine whether additional actions  by the con-




ferees will be required to achieve  satisfactory water




quality in the conference  area.  Present Committee member;




are:

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                    C. Pemberton, Jr.






               H. W.  Poston,  Chairman - Federal Water




Pollution Control Administration.



               B. T.  Lynam -  Metropolitan Sanitary




District of Greater Chicago.



               R. S.  Nelle -  Illinois Sanitary Water




Board.



               0. H.  Hert - Indiana Stream Pollution




Control Board.



               As I said, I am the Director of the




Technical Programs Office of  the Great Lakes  Region,,




which has provided the major  Federal technical input to




the Committee, and I  am presenting the report for the




Committee.



               The Committee  has held eight meetings at




approximately monthly intervals, has agreed on a course



of action, and has pursued that course as rapidly as



possible.  Specific tasks of  the Committee are:




               (1)  Assemble  and evaluate all existing




data on quality of receiving  waters and of municipal and



industrial effluents.




               (2)  Estimate  future quality of receiving



waters, using the waste loads from industrial and

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 municipal  waste  treatment facilities as prescribed by the



 local  regulatory agencies.




                (3)   Determine whether  further control




 measures will  be needed to  achieve satisfactory water




 quality in the Conference area,  and make recommendations




 to  the conferees.




                Upon completion of  the  evaluation of




 existing data, the  Committee  will  furnish the conferees




 an  Interim Report,   At  the  present time,  the  data evalu-




 ation  is in rough  draft stage and  this  statement will




 present conclusions on  water  quality changes  over the




 past four  years  for Grand Calumet  River,  Lake Michigan,




 Little Calumet River and Wolf Lake.  Data for Calumet




 River  are  being  analyzed.   In general,  it can be said




 that the waters  of  the  conference  area  are  far from  satis-




 factory and violate the conference criteria at many  loca-




 tions.  There  have  been improvements for  some parameters




 at  some sampling stations.  These  improvements  usually




 can be related to pollution abatement actions taken  by




 municipalities and  industries in the area.  Similarly,




 lack of improvement in  water  quality has  also sometimes




 resulted from  changes in waste handling procedures.

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 Major  improvements  in  water quality cannot be expected




 until  adequate  treatment  plants  at five  major steel




 plants  are  completed.   Pollution from  combined sewers,




 surface runoff,  and inadequate municipal waste treatment




 must  be controlled  before  satisfactory water  quality can




 be achieved.  Although  all  municipalities provide  seconda:




 treatment and  chlorination,  existing treatment appears




 to be  inadequate in some  instances  and will require




 further improvement.



                I will  now  go  through the sampling  station




 and Mr. Degutis  will point  them  out on the map.




                Station  1  -  Grand Calumet River at



 Pennsylvania Railroad  Bridge.




                Over the past  four  years,  there has  been



 general improvement in  total  conforms,  fecal  coliforms,




 fecal  streptococci,,  dissolved oxygen (DO), biochemical




 oxygen  demand  (BOD), chemical oxygen demand (COD),  the




 nitrogen series,  methylene  blue  active substances  (MBAS)




 or detergents,  phenols  and  oils.   This is  moderate




 improvement.  There has been  significant improvement in




 sulfate and pH,  hydrogen-ion  concentration, which  is an




 indication  of acidity.  In  spite of the  improvements
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noted.,  however,  water quality at this  station remains

unsatisfactory.

                Station  2  - Indiana Harbor Canal  at 151st

Street.

                There have been no  significant changes  in

the  unsatisfactory water  quality over  the past four years

Slight  improvements have  occurred  in DO,  sulfate and

ammonia nitrogen.

                Station  3  ~ Indiana Harbor Canal  at Dickey

Roaa.

                There has  been very little change in the

unsatisfactory water quality in the past  four years.

Phenols  show  a slight improvement.   Dissolved oxygen has

decreased  at  this  station.

                Station  4  - Indiana Harbor at  Mouth p_f_
Canal.
                Station  6  - Indiana Harbor at  Inner Harbor
                There  have  been  significant  reductions  in

 levels  of  sulfate  and phenol  at both  stations.   Moderate

 improvement  has  occurred at Station 6 in  pH,  organic

 nitrogen,  total  iron,  cyanide,  suspended  solids  and

 turbidity.   There  has  been little  change  in other

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parameters measured.  The overall water quality remains

unsatisfactory.

                         ~ Grand Calumet River at
Indiana Belt Railroad Bridge .

               When all parameters are considered, more


show a tendency toward lowering of the water quality

here than show improvement. Water quality at this station

remains unsatisfactory.

               Station 8 - Little Calumet River at Went-

worth Avenue.

               Total coliform  counts have increased,

although fecal coliform and fecal streptococci are not

significantly changed.

               Some improvement is indicated for phosphat

and phenols .

               Lower dissolved oxygen and higher ammonia

levels indicate further degradation in the already

degraded conditions.

               Other parameters are unchanged.
                      _9 ~ Wolf Lake at State Line .
               Station 10 -
Avenue.
               Total phosphorus has increased at both

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stations, with concentrations at State Line about double

those at the Outlet.

               Other parameters showed no significant

changes.

               Water quality of Wolf Lake remains satis-

factory.

               Station 11 - Calumet Harbor at Mouth of
Calumet River.
               Station 13 - Calumet Harbor.

               Total coliform counts have decreased at

Station 11, while remaining steady at Station 13-

               Ammonia nitrogen levels have declined at

both stations.

               Phenols show an improvement at both static

               Total phosphorus declined at Station 11,

but shows no significant change at Station 13.

               Suspended solids have decreased at Station

11, and remain about the same at Station 13-

               Turbidity and total iron concentrations

have shown significant improvement at Station 11, and

remain about the same at Station 13-

               Sulfates have decreased at both stations.

               The overall water quality at these station

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has improved, but remains unsatisfactory.

               Station l4 - Gary-West Water  Plant_I_ntake.
               S_tat_io_n__15 - East Chicago Water  Plant Inta
               S_ta,t_i_on_J..^ - Hammond Water  Plant Intake.
               s'tatTo'n _1_7 - Chicago So. Dist. Water Plant
                            In_t.ak_e_.

               An analysis was made of the parameters

•which violated the criteria during the period of  sampling

August 1966 through March 1969.  The evaluation of  trends

in water quality is presented in the attached table,

which indicates improvement in some parameters,  no  sig-

nificant change in others, and a decrease  in quality at

Stations 14 and 17 for the threshold odor  parameter.

Although an overall improvement is indicated, water

quality remains unsatisfactory because of  the many  cri-

teria violations.

               Beaches.

               The beach sampling  program  over  the  last

four years has indicated an overall improvement  in  water

quality as indicated by the reduced frequency of  viola-

tions of the bacterial criteria.  However, it was noted

that after July 15 of this year, total coliform  counts

increased sharply at Rainbow Beach and the Calumet  Harbor

Beaches.  The high coliform counts were not accompanied
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 by high  fecal streptococci counts.

                Summary.

                In general, water  quality in the conferenc

 area is  still unsatisfactory,  and violates the conference

 criteria at many locations.

                The improvements noted herein are apparent

 trends based on an evaluation  of  a relatively short

 period of surveillance.

                Many of  the indicated improvements  in

 water quality can be related to improvements in waste

 control  instituted by industries  or municipalities.

 Likewise, lack of improvement  can sometimes  be related

 to changes in waste handling procedures.

                Major improvements in water quality will

 not be evident until adequate  treatment  facilities at the

 steel plants are completed.

                In order to achieve satisfactory water

 quality  in the conference  area, further  measures will be

 needed.   These include, but  may not be limited to, contro

 of pollution from combined sewers, surface runoff, and

 inadequately treated municipal wastes.

                Thank you.
                (The following  tables were  submitted by
 Mr.  Pemberton:)

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SUMMARY OF EVALUATION OF TRENDS IN WATER QUALITY FOR PARAMETERS WHICH
  VIOLATED WATER QUALITY CRITERIA (AUGUST 1966 THROUGH MARCH 1969)
        (Criteria for Which Numerical  Values were Specified)
                              Apparent       Apparent       No Apparent
                              Increase in    Decrease in    Change in
Parameter                     Water Quality  Water Quality  Water Quality
              STATION 14 GARY-WEST WATER PLANT INTAKE

Coliform bact., MPN/IOO ml          X
Fecal strep., No./I 00 ml           X
True color units                   X
Threshold odor units                             X
pH units                           X
Dissolved oxygen, % sat.                                         X
Ammonia nitrogen                                                 X
Total nitrogen                     X
MBAS                                                             X
Chlorides                                                        X
Phenol                                                           X
Total phosphate                                                  X
Filterable residue                                               X
             STATION" 15 EAST CHICAGO WATER PLANT INTAKE

Coliform bact., MPN/IOO ml          X
Fecal strep., No./100 ml           X
True color units                   X
Threshold odor units               X
pH units                           X
Dissolved oxygen, % sat.                                         X
Ammonia nitrogen                   X
Cyanides1                                                         X
Phenol                              X
Total phosphate                                                  X

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SUMMARY OF EVALUATION OF TRENDS IN WATER QUALITY FOR PARAMETERS WHICH
  VIOLATED WATER QUALITY CRITERIA (AUGUST 1966 THROUGH MARCH 1969)
        (Criteria for Which Numerical  Values were Specified)
                             Apparent       Apparent       No Apparent
                             Increase in    Decrease in    Change in
Parameter                    Water Quality  Water Quality  Water Quality
               STATION 16 HAMMOND WATER PLANT INTAKE

Coliform bact., MPN/IOO ml         X
Fecal strep., No./I 00 ml            X
True color units                   X
Threshold odor units               X
pH units                           X
Dissolved oxygen, % sat.                                          X
Ammonia nitrogen                                                 X
MBAS                                      •                       X
Phenol                                                           X
Total phosphate                                                  X
Filterable residue                                               X
            STATION 17 CHICAGO SOUTH WATER PLANT INTAKE

Fecal strep., No./IOOml           X
Threshold odor units                             X
pH units                           X
Dissolved oxygen, % sat.
Ammonia nitrogen                   X
Total nitrogen                     X
Chlorides                          X
Phenol
Total phosphate
Fi Iterable residue

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               MR. STEIN:  Thank you,  Mr. Pemberton.




               Are there any comments  or questions?




               MR. POSTON:   For clarification, I would




like to ask Mr. Pemberton whether  the  Committee report




shows or will show the  quality of  our  streams to be




expected at the completion  of construction of the plants




that are now under construction?



               MR. PEMBERTON:  Yes,  sir. Our interim




report which I spoke of will present in detail the




evaluations of the existing data which I have just




summarized, and we have set a time schedule to provide




a final report within six months after the interim report




and our final report would  predict the water quality in




the area using the waste loadings  as prescribed by the




regulatory agency, that is  taking  into account the treat-




ment plants as they will discharge after they are com-




pleted. This would be the Committee's  final report.  This




is not an easy job, but we  think we  can approximate it.



               MR. STEIN:  Mr. Poole.




               MR. POOLE:  I would like to request, Mr.



Chairman, that the next time we get  a  report at a




reconvening of this conference that  it be a report of

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 the  Committee  rather than Mr.  Pemberton's  analysis.   You

 know,  you  can  draw various conclusions  from groups  of

 statistics,  depending upon how you look at them,  and  I

 would  just prefer to have Committee reports rather  than

 a  single man's analysis.

                MR. STEIN:  Right.   I had noted  that,  but

 I  refer to the first page of the  report.   Maybe we  should

 get  clarification.

                It says  that Mr. Pemberton  is  presenting

 this report  for  the Committee.

                MR. PEMBERTON:   Yes,  sir.

                MR. STEIN:  Are you speaking for the whole

 Committee, Mr, Pemberton?

                MR. PEMBERTON:   Yes,  sir.   The Committee

 met  last Friday,  roughed  out this  report and  it was pre-

 pared  in final form yesterday. The full Committee hasn't

 seen the final version.   However,  three of the  four
                                      4
 members of the Committee  have  seen the  final  version  and

 to this date I haven't  had any complaints.

                But Mr.  Poole,  as  a member  of  the  Committe

 being  in Indianapolis hadn't had  a chance  to  see  the

 final  version.  However,  I discussed it over  the  phone

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                     C.  Pemberton,  Jr.






 with  him  Monday  of  this  week,  I  believe.




               MR.  STEIN:   Well,  I do  think that this




 report  that  we are  getting  here  is probably going to be




 a  key to  the conclusion  of  the case we  have on  the lower




 end  of  Lake  Michigan.,  and I think  we can't  emphasize




 that  too  strongly.




               Now,  as  I see  this,  since  the focus in




 the  future is going to  be on  the water  quality  we achieve




 because that is  what we  are looking for,  and not neces-




 sarily  on the plants we  build, it  would be  advisable to




 have  these reports  pretty well reviewed in  advance of




 the  conference if we can.   In  the  future, the group




 should  look  at these reports  and it might be well to




 rotate  the person on the Committee who  gives the report.




 We can  let someone  from  the Sanitary District or Illinois




 or Indiana give  this report for  the Committee in the




 future  at sometime,  as  the Federal  conferee  did  in the




 previous  meeting.




               Let  me  try to  resolve this,  because I




 think this is probably  a very  key  point at  this  stage of




 the  proceedings.  You  say you  are  going to  get  an interin




 report  and a final  report with recommendations.   When

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can we expect that final report?




               MR. PEMBERTON:  Well, we expect to com-




plete the interim report within the next 2 months and




the final report, as I said, was scheduled for 6 months




after the interim report.  So that would be 8 months




from now.




               MR. STEIN:  This, it seems to me, may be



the problem. One of your charges is to determine where




control measures will be needed first to achieve satis-




factory water quality in the conference area and to make




recommendations to the conferees.  It also seems to me




from various statements which are pretty general in your




report that you would think that possibly, even if we had




completed all the works that the conferees had agreed on,



water quality standards would not really be met in all




these cases.



               If this is the case, I believe we must




get these recommendations to the conferees as soon




as possible.   Otherwise, there is no point to all




this, whatever you may say about treatment works or




meeting deadlines or not meeting deadlines if all




these are done and the water quality does not meet the




requirements which we have set forth.  The conferees, it

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                     C.  Pemberton,  Jr.






 seems  to  me,  need  that  information as  e~arly as  possible.




 Maybe  it  is  too  long now.   I  will  give you a personal




 opinion.   With all  the  work that we had done up to now,




 and there has been  considerable work that  has been done




 successfully--most  of the  petroleum and oil companies




 have put  in  works;  many of  the steel companies  have put




 in remedial  facilities;  certainly  the  municipalities




 have moved ahead--It certainly appeared to me that we




 would  see a  better  quality  of water or improvement in




 water  quality than  evidently  is indicated  by your  report.




 I think again we should try to get  this as  rapidly as




 possible  and not wait until these  steel plants  have




 completed their works to find out  that maybe we are not



 getting the  water quality we  need.




               Let  me ask you one  question,  Mr.  Pemberton.



 after  all that.  Do you think it -would be  possible to




 get recommendations for consideration  by the conferees




 so that we could meet again in  6   months  to do that?




 This would mean that we would need  those recommendations




 perhaps in  5  months  for  the conferees,  because




 we just have  to get at  this aspect  of  the  case.  No one




 is going  to  be happy if after the  works are comoleted we

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are going to keep getting these dismal reports that




water quality remains the same, slightly improved or



degraded.




               MR. PEMBERTON:  Well, we can try.  The




Committee is handicapped by all Committee members having




a heavy workload and it has been difficult. But if this




is what the conferees need, why, we certainly can try.




               MR. STEIN:  I am going to propose that




when we get into the discussion, because it seems to me




that this is going to be the test of whether we have done




the job or not, not whether we have built the plants or




built them on time, but whether we have improved the




water quality.  And unless we do that, we have failed.




And we certainly want to have a program that is going to




give us this kind of water quality.



               Are there any other comments or questions?




               MR. POSTON:  I think I would like to




remind you, Mr. Chairman, that this Committee was formed




after our last meeting and it was formed because of the




problem that we had had in finding that we were not getti




the improvement that we had anticipated.  And certainly




I am in favor of moving this faster if it is possible.

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This is a tough job that has been taken on.




               MR. STEIN:  I recognize that and this is




the problem we have in all complex areas. When we clean up




a  mass of pollution we find that we have masked other




problems that really require getting at,  and this is




what may be happening here.



               MR. PEMBERTON:   I can point out, Mr.




Chairman, that we have recognized three individual prob-




lems here and made what amounts to a recommendation  to




the conferees that these three things are going to have




to be done and we don't yet  know what else is going  to




have to be done in order to  get satisfactory water quality




In other words, water that meets the criteria at all




times.




               MR. STEIN: Again, sir, I think, as you




well know, if we are going to  deal with a combined sewer




problem or something such as inadequately treated munici-




pal wastes, we can always talk about those in general,




but unless we have chapter and verse and  recommendations,



we are  not going to get very far.




               MR. PEMBERTON:  The specific recommendation



are included in our interim  report.  As I said, it is in

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                     C.  Pemberton,  Jr.






 draft  stage  and  I  summarized it very briefly.  But  specif!




 plants  are named in  there by the Committee  members  who



 have prepared  various  portions of  it.




               MR. STEIN:   If we are going  to  deal



 particularly with  inadequately treated municipal wastes




 and if  you are going to get a report in 2   months,  I




 think  whether  we meet  or not., it might be a short




 meeting of the conferees,  this information  certainly



 should  be acted  upon so we can get moving and  not wait



 6  months  or  8  months until the final  report comes




 out or  else  we are never going to  achieve the  objectives.



               MR. PEMBERTON:  This will be covered  in




 this interim report.



               MR. STEIN:  All right.  I think  we will




 all look forward to  looking at that and seeing if we have



 any specific recommendations on which  we can move.



               Again for the people here, I think that




 this kind of box score  that you have just got  from  this



 Technical Committee  is  going to be the indicator which




 tells  us whether we  have been successful in the program




 or not,  and  I  would  submit that this is the thing to




 watch  from here  on out.

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                       V.  ¥.  Bacon






               Are  there  any  other  comments  or questions?




               If not, thank  you  very much,  Mr.  Pemberton




               At this point  we would like  to  call on Mr.




Vinton  Bacon  of  the  Sanitary  District.




               Mr.  Bacon.








         VINTON  W.  BACON,  GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT




           METROPOLITAN SANITARY  DISTRICT OF




           GREATER  CHICAGO, CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








               MR.  BACON:  Mr. Chairman, conferees and



ladies  and gentlemen.  I have a prepared statement in




two  parts, one which I will read  a  little later  which I




think will give  you  great  encouragement as  to  what is




going on in this area, and the second part  which will be




given by Mr.  Bart Lynam of our office on the specific




details of individual industries  which we have been




requested to  report  upon  in addition  to the  two  main




subject industries,  Republic  Steel  and TJ. S. Steel.




               Before reading this  statement,  though, and




showing you some slides,  some questions have been raised




this morning  that deserve  and need  to be answered, and I

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will  attempt  to answer them.




                Before doing that,  though,  I would like to




point out  to  the audience  and the  conferees that we have




had,  I think,  the finest,  most productive  and cooperative




coordination  and cooperation  with  the State Sanitary




Water Board and its  chief,  Mr. Klassen,  the Regional




Office of  the  Federal Water Pollution Control Administra-




tion  and its  chief,  Mr. Poston., Because  of the remoteness




we  have not had quite such close contact with Mr. Blucher




Poole,  but the association we think has  been pleasant^ and




I think I  am  going to show you, at least as far as some




of  the stations are  concerned--(We  do not need the lights




out yet, gentlemen;   I will let you know.) --has been




productive, as I am  going  to  show  you later on on these




slides .



                ¥e have been as far away  as the telephone.




We  have immediately  reported  to one another, they to us




and we to  them, what would be transpiring  in the future




even  if it was contemplated at the moment. So I think




there has  been nothing but the finest and  I think pro-




ductive cooperation  among  the agencies and this conferenc




                The statement  was made this morning by

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the Honorable Carl L. Klein that we did not appear at



the December 11-12 conference submitting testimony about




the Calumet region conference.  This is Volume 1 of the



transcript.  On page 62 of the first day of the conferenc




is a statement by myself, the Superintendent of the



District, extending on some innumerable pages.  Because




we were not prepared at that first day to answer all the



questions, we asked for an audience the second day.  This



conference, being a fact seeking group, granted that



second day, and on page ^6l of the conference and for



many pages thereafter is a further statement by the



Metropolitan Sanitary District.   And at that time we




submitted the construction schedules of the various



industries that we had at that particular moment and in




particular we submitted the bar graphs or what we call



the CPM, the Critical Path Method Network,  by which



the U. S. Steel and the other companies would be con-



structing.




               Throughout all of this, the President of



the Sanitary District, President Egan, I don't think has




ever missed a meeting of these conferences . He has




participated in the discussions  and he has participated

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                        V.  ¥.  Bacon




in various  significant  motions  before the conference,


as you will  see on  page 725*when the  conferees  were  dis-


cussing  their  actions.   The question  is  asked by Chairman


Stein, they are discussing what to do about the various


industries:


                "MR.  STEIN: Republic  Steel Corporation?


                "MR.  EGAN:  I  am going to renew  ray motion,


Mr.  Chairman,  that  this be referred to the Secretary of


the  Interior for decision  and action."

                                     *
                Then back on page 732,  after long dis-


cussion  of  the intermediate points,  the  point is made


by Mr. Pooler


                "I think the practical effect of this,


Mr.  Chairman"--and  now  they are talking  about U. S.  Steel--


"is  that we  have done the  same  thing  with the South  Works


that we  did  with Republic  Steel,  haven't we,  that we have


handed it to the Secretary?"


                And  there was  unanimous agreement to  that,


that they had  handed it to the  Secretary.


                So to correct  the record,  there  has been


very intimate  contact among the agencies  and official


participation  in these  conferences in connection with
* Second Session,  Dec.  11-12,  1968,  Jan. 29, 1969, Calumet

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these two cases that are before us today.



               Further the question was raised why since




about late November or December of 1968 the plans of U.S.




Steel were not made available--the construction plans and




dates were not made available to the other agencies.  The




answer to that is very clear and convincing.  U. S. Steel




submitted to us five different sets of plans and time-




tables to accomplish the results and on the first four



we found them unsatisfactory.  We had very candid con-




versations with the company. We said, "You've got fat in




your timetable; we want it out."  And as a result of




meetings that extended from December of 1968, there was




an intermediate meeting, number two was on May 19,  1969,




April 7, 1969, June 2, and at the June 2 meeting we



finally arrived at the point where they ha-d a schedule




pointing toward on or before December 31, 1970,  that we




as staff found acceptable to the extent that we  could




submit it to the Board of Trustees and to' the other



agencies involved.




               So the reason that we did not go  to any



other agency in that time period is because we were not




satisfied ourselves, and we are the first agency concerne

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with this enforcement.  Therefore, we rejected all of




them up until the date of June 2, in which we then had




something we could submit to the Board, in our opinion,



and that we could justify and support.




               And in this process, in an effort to keep



the communication lines as busy as possible and as




effective, the Honorable Carl Klein and I have been in



telephone conversations frequently.  Immediately after




that June meeting he and I talked about this case, U.S.




Steel, and under date of July 21, 1969* * furnished him



a personal letter, I handed it to him a few days later



when he and I had lunch together, in which we set forth



the projected stipulation with U. S. Steel and the latest




CPM, Critical Path Method Network, that we found satis-



factory to the Sanitary District personnel and that was




made available to him.



               So I believe, just so that you do not go a




from here with the idea that we haven't participated and



we haven't communicated, I could go on at great length




on both U. S. Steel and Republic Steel from the record.




In the case of Republic Steel, their plans came to us on




December 6, 1968, with the timetable and all.  We sent it

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to the State Sanitary Water Board.  The State Sanitary




Water Board said., "We will look at this projected time-




table which would cause completion by December 31* 1970,




when the due date comes, namely September 30, 1969."




And so the State Sanitary Water Board will be looking at




that schedule within probably a month.



               And at the time that this was made avail-




able to the State Sanitary Water Board it was also made




available to the U.  S. Department of the Interior.  I




don't have the records here so that I can be precise on




the date, but it was ordered by the Board of Trustees.



               I think that the matter of the referral of




these two cases to the Department of the Interior was an




expression by this conference that the cases are compli-



cated, there do seem to be conflicting criteria, and there




has seemed from time to time to be jurisdictional mis-




understandings.  That is the precise reason, among others,




I am sure, that these cases went to the Department of the



Interior in January  of this year.




               But I would like to refresh your memories




on another important act that the Sanitary District Board




of Trustees took in  the latter part of 1967.  At that time

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                        V.  W.  Bacon






 the  Board  passed  a nine-point program in connection  with




 water  quality  improvement  and one of the points  was  to




 ask  the  Department of the  Interior to reconvene  this




 particular conference for  the specific purpose  of




 clarifying the criteria and clarifying the lines of




 jurisdiction.   So again I  submit that any portrayal  that




 there  has  not  been the best of cooperation and  communi-




 cation would tend to mislead  you.




                I  would like,  Mr. Chairman, to  submit  into




 the  record two letters that were prepared for  this con-




 ference  from our  law department to me, and we  have extra




 copies that you may pass out  right now,  Mr.  Rothenberg.




 One  is giving  the summary  of  the case of the U.  S. Steel




 Corporation right up to the moment.   It  is about two




 pages  long.  And  the second letter is likewise  for the




 Republic Steel Corporation,under the title of  Pollution




 Abatement,telling where we stand now, and as I  just  stated,




 action on  the  question of  extension  to the State Sanitary




 Water  Board before September  30th.



                MR. STEIN:  These will be  included in  the




 record as  if read,without  objection.



                (Which said letters are as follows:)

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             MliTlSOi'OflJTAA SANITAB&Y
                       ri  OF 4.111; \Ti;it 4 iii4 A4.0
            TOO
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                             August 25, 1969
Mr. Vinton W. Bacon,
General Superintendent
Office
          In Re:
Dear Mr. Bacon:
United States Steel Corporation
      Pollution Abatement
          On October 26, 1967, the Metropolitan Sanitary
District of Greater Chicago filed suit in the Circuit Court
of Cook County, Illinois, against United States Steel Corpo-
ration, Case No. 6? CH 5772, for the purpose of obtaining an
injunction restraining United States Steel Corporation from
polluting the waters of Lake Michigan, which is a water supply
for the City of Chicago and other cities and villages in the
State of Illinois.

          The suit was filed pursuant to Statutes of the State
of Illinois, and was assigned to the Honorable George N.
Leighton, Judge of the Circuit Court of Cook County, Chancery
Division.

          After numerous hearings, on March 4, 1968, the
Metropolitan Sanitary District, in the same case, filed a
supplemental petition charging United States Steel Corporation,
specifically, with discharging great amounts of oil into Lake
Michigan.  The Court, after hearing evidence presented fcy i>0th
parties, did on March 22, 1968, enter an order finding thai, it
had authority to hear the matter and issued an order restraining
and enjoining United States Steel Corporation from polluting
Lake Michigan by discharging any oil or oily substances into
the waters of Lake Michigan.

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Mr. Vlnton W. Bacon
August 25, 1969
Page 2


          On the same day, United  States  Steel  Corporation
appealed the order to the  Appellate  Court.

          The Illinois Supreme  Court,  on  its  own motion,
transferred the case from  the Appellate Court to the Supreme
Court where oral arguments were heard  on  September  25,  1968.

          On November 22,  1968,  the  Supreme Court entered an
order affirming Judge Leighton's decision.  The company there-
after asked for a rehearing which  was  denied  on January 28, 1969,

          Since that time, the  District has been diligently
preparing for trial of all issues  involved by gathering
evidence and consulting with experts.

          Also, during the Interim period, there have been
meetings between The Metropolitan  Sanitary District of  Greater
Chicago and the United States Steel  Corporation, for the purpose
of resolving this matter.

          The company has  presented  plans with  a time schedule
in which it proposes to complete the necessary  facilities to
meet the requirements of the District  and State Sanitary Water
Board by December 31, 1970.

          A proposed stipulation has been prepared  by counsel
for the respective parties.  This  provides, among other thlnga,
United States Steel Corporation to complete construction and
have their facilities operational  by December 31, -1-970; and
that the Court would retain jurisdiction  for  the enforcement
of an Interim order entered pursuant to the stipulation and
the enforcement of any other order heretofore entered in the
case.

          The Board was requested  to approve  the settlement
stipulation.  It decided that it would not approve  same.  It
directed that a copy of the stipulation be forwarded to the
Sanitary Water Board with  a request  for the Sanitary ttater
Board to indicate, in writing,  its approval and upon receipt
thereof, the District would give this  matter  its further con-
sideration and use the reply of the  Sanitary  Water  Board for
guidance.

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Mr. Vinton W. Bacon
August 25, 1969
Page 3
          As of this date, the State Sanitary Water Board
has not issued its written approval.
                              Respectfully submitted,
ASL:PR:bmg
                              Allen S. Lavin, Attorney.
Prepared by:
/—^X'   r>^  f  s't
       / !  jfcj /"
        Rothenberg,
Senior Assistant Attorney

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                          August 25, 1969
Mr. Vlnton W. Bacon
General Superintendent
Office
            Re:  Republic Steel Corporation
                 Pollution Abatement
Dear Sir:

       Conciliation negotiation proceedings were commenced
about November 30, 1967 regarding discharges by Republic
into the Calumet River from several water outfalls in
violation of the 1946 Ordinance.

       Show Cause proceedings against Republic commenc-ed
January 11, 1968 and were continued from time to time.
On May 8, 1968, the hearings were recessed to give Republic
time to submit a program and schedule for construct I or. of
water pollution control facilities at its Chicago ..-.larvc.

       The company indicated that it engaged the serv: ces
of a consultant firm in September, 1966 to design wast".
treatment facilities.

       Republic submitted plans June 2?, 1968 for she_des,gn
and construction of three (3) major waste trestmeri plants
a-, an estimated cost of $6,000,000.  The first completion
date presented was September 1, 1972.  Consultations with
the Sanitary District cut the completion date to December 31
1970.

       The company represented  that it is impossible to
complete its construction program by September 30, 19o9-

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 Mr.  Vinton W.  Bacon
 Page Two
 August 25, 1969


        The Sanitary District contends that it has no power
 to extend the compliance date beyond September 30, 19^9«

        The Sanitary Water Board indicated to the company
 that the Board would not consider an extension beyond the
 September 30, 1969 date unless the request for extension
 came through the Sanitary District.
        The Board of Trustees, on February 13, 19&9* ordered
 Republic :

             1.  To proceed expedltiously with the
                 construction program submitted;

             2.  To submit bi-monthly written reports
                 indicating its progress; and

             3.  Request of Republic for an extension
                 of time be submitted to the Sanitary
                 Water Board.
        In the event the Sanitary Water Board did not grant
 the extension requested by September 30,  1969*  the Attorney
 was directed to .take such action as  necessary to enforce
 compliance with applicable ordinances and statutes.

        The President of the Board of Trustees was directed
 to transmit a copy of the Stipulation, a  copy of the Order
 of the Board of Trustees, and Republic's  construction propjram,
 to the Federal Water Pollution Control Administration for Its
 information.

        The Sanitary Water Board subsequently indicated that
 if the company expeditiously proceeded with its construction
 program, consideration of the request for extension would be
 given by September 30, 1969.

        Republic is making periodic reports to the District.
 Every indication is that the work is proceeding as outlined.

        The decision of the Sanitary Water Board is being
 awaited.

                           Respectfully submitted,
 Prepare, „,

 . /.  /    7 fL/-  //,
 Vv i.  a  .. ._  / ./ScU^a •- Allen S. Lavin,
 Julius H. 'Grubman            Attorney.
/Principal Assistant Atty.
 ASL:JHG;sg

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                       V. ¥. Bacon






               MR. BACON:  These are available to anyone



in the audience or the press.  I don't think we have a




great number of copies now.  But Mr. Rothenberg,here are




the originals in case they want to make copies.




               And now if I can get to the prepared



statement.  May we have the slides.




               At Station 11, which is at the mouth of




the Calumet River, of the twenty-six parameters studied




during 1968, sixteen were reduced from 1966 and 1967 con-




centrations, four remained the same, and six could not




be compared due to lack of data.  Therefore, for compari-




son purposes, sixteen out of twenty measurable parameters




have shown improvement.




               For your orientation, Station Wo. 11 is




located at the mouth of the Calumet River immediately




adjacent to the north pierhead light.



               Station No. 13 is located mid-harbor,




approximately 3,500 feet from the mouth of the river.



               The stations are not designated as control




points in either the Two-State Conference Standards or




State of Illinois standards.  Numerical values for con-




taminent concentrations are the same for both sets of

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                        V.  W.  Bacon



 criteria.   What  we  are  trying to  say  here,  we  are  in


 closer  to  the  sources  of  pollution  than  if  we  availed


 ourselves  of  the two-State conference point, which is


 at  the  Hammond water intake,  or the State of Illinois


 point,  which  is  at  the  breakwater at  the harbor.

               The  appearance  of  water in the  vicinity


 of  Station No. 11 has  recently improved, due in part to
                                            %.

 the closing of United  States  Steel  -  Outfall No. 10  in


 August  1968.   The mouth of the Calumet River (Station


 No. 11)  reflects water  quality improvements in "both  the


 river and  Calumet Harbor.

               At Station  No.  11, fecal  coliform shows a


 reduction  from 520  per  100 ml  in  1966, to 150  in 1967,


 and 111  in 1968.  (Figure  2.)  Bacterial quality at


 Station  No. 11 has  improved at a  steady  rate.  During 1968,


 the total  coliform  criteria was not violated at either


 station.   Average values for  total  coliform fecal  strep-


 tococci  and fecal coliform have decreased significantly

 in  each  of the past three  years.


               By the way,  I  am using the same figures


 that Mr. Pemberton  submitted,  only we are emphasizing


 Station  11, which we consider  the key and most important.

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                        V.  ¥. Bacon






                Total  phosphorus  shows  a reduction from




0.059 milligrams  per  liter in  1966 to  0.048 in 1967.,  to




0.035 in  1968.   (Figure 3-)  Total phosphorus  has been




steadily  decreasing,  and is  approaching criteria limits.




In  other  words3 we  are  acknowledging that  we are not




there yet,  even in  spite of  this improvement.




                Total  iron shows  a reduction from 7.7




milligrams  per  liter  in 1966,  to 7.2 in 1967,  to 3.0  in




1968.   (Figure  4.)  Total iron shows a reduction of more




than  50 percent in  1968 from previous  concentrations




reported  in 1966-1967.



                Suspended solids  show a reduction from 35




milligrams  per  liter  in 1966,  to 32 in 1967, to 20.5  in



1968.   (Figure  5.)  There is no  criterion  for  suspended




solids; however,  suspended solids continued to decrease




in  1968.



                Turbidity,  the  most dramatic of all, shows




a reduction from  35 Jackson  candle units in 1966, to  11




in  1967,  to 3.6 in  1968.  (Figure 6.)   Turbidity continue




to  improve,as  this  chart shows,  although the parameter




continues in violation.  In  other words, we have some




distance  to go  yet.

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                       V. W. Bacon






               Total coliform fecal streptococci,




sulfate, ammonia nitrogen, and phenol also showed




significant reduction between 1966 and 196b.




               It is evident, therefore, that measurable




and visible progress has been made in reducing industrial




pollution at this location.  However, full compliance




will not be achieved prior to completion of control




projects presently under construction.




               The number of samples each year was




sufficient to give validity to the encouraging progress,




being:




               In 1966 there were 51 samples  contributing



to the record that you saw on the slide.




               In 1967,  ^ samples.



               And in 1968, 38 samples.




               We are never satisfied with the number of




samples that we have, because we would like to take more;




but we all agree, I think,  that we do have statistically




significant results here to show this encouraging trend.




               Of the fifteen Illinois industries reported




upon at the December 11-12, 1968, Illinois-Indiana con-




ference, seven are presently meeting Illinois effluent

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                        V.  W.  Bacon






 requirements.   All  of the  eight still requiring improve-




 ments  are  in  some  stage of enforcement proceedings as




 will be.  reported upon in the  following section by Mr.




 Bart Lynam, our Director of Research and Development,




 who has  charge  of  the industrial waste control program.




                You  are going  to use slides too., are you




 not, Mr. Lynam?




                MR.  LYNAM:   Yes.




                MR.  BACON:   If the conferees will remain




 down there, it  will make it easier for them to see the




 slides.



                {The following charts were submitted by




 Mr. Bacon  and referred to in  his statement:)

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CHICAGO
FEDERAL WATER  POLLUTION CONTROL ADMINISTRATION
        LOCATION  MAP
    STATIONS  11,  12  &  13
                            •STATION  13 - CALUMET HARBOR
                            •STATION  11 - CALUMET HARBOR MONITOR
                             STATION  12 - CALUMET RIVER MOUTH
                          LAKE  MICHIGAN
                  -    HAMMOND
                                                SAMPLING  CONTROL O
                                                             FIGURE  1

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   WATER QUALITY - STATION 11
         Mouth of Calumet River
   FECAL  COLIFORMS
            ( per 100 ml )
520
               150
1966
1967
                              111
                                >''- '"-
1968
                                  FIGURE 2

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   WATER QUALITY - STATION 11
        Mouth of Calumet River

   TOTAL  PHOSPHORUS
.059
1966
            .048
1967
                        .035
1968
                             FIGURE 3
                         VQ
                         CO

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   WATER  QUALITY - STATION  11
         Mouth off Calumet River

       TOTAL   IRON

              ( mg/l )
1966
              7.2
1967
                            2.957
1968
                                 FIGURE  4  ;,

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    WATER QUALITY - STATION 11

          Mouth of Calumet River



  SUSPENDED  SOLIDS


             ( mg/l)
35.0
1966
              32.0
1967
                           20.5
1968
                                FIGURE 5
                           o
                           o

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   WATER QUALITY - STATION 11
          Mouth of Calumet River

         TURBIDITY

               ( units)
35.0
1966
                11.0
1967
                                3.6
1968
                                     FIGURE  6  2

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                       B. T. Lynam









             BART T. LYNAM,  ACTING DIRECTOR




                RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT




             METROPOLITAN SANITARY DISTRICT




          OP GREATER CHICAGO, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS








               MR. LYNAM:  My name is Bart Lynam.  I am




the Acting Director of Research and Development for the




Metropolitan Sanitary District.




               The following Illinois companies were




included in the proceedings  of December 11-12, 19685




Illinois-Indiana conference.  There are fifteen companies




               Allied Chemical Company




               Bulk Terminal Company




               Chicago Brick Company




               Commonwealth  Edison Company, Calumet Staticfn




               General Mills Corporation




               Gulf Oil Company (Spencer Chemical)(Cosden]




               Swift and Company




               United Chemical Company




               Cargill Corporation




               Catalin Corporation (Ashland Chemical)

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                       B. T. Lynam






               Ford Motor Company




               Interlake Steel Company




               Wisconsin Steel Company




               Republic Steel Company




               United States Steel Company (South Works)




               Seven of the companies are presently



meeting State of Illinois effluent criteria.  The fol-



lowing eight are exceptions:




               Gulf Oil Company (Spencer Chemical, Cosden



               Cargill Corporation




               Catalin Corporation (Ashland Chemical)



               Ford Motor Company



               Interlake Steel Company



               Wisconsin Steel Company




               Republic Steel Company



               United States Steel (South Works)



               I would like to report on the enforcement




status of the companies not in compliance with the State




of Illinois effluent criteria.



               Gulf Oil,  which is  presently known as  the




Cosden Chemical Company.   This company is constructing




a closed recirculating cooling system with cooling towers

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                       B. T. Lynam






and water treatment facilities.



               A show cause hearing by the Sanitary Distra




was held on August 2, 1969.  The Chief Engineer has recom




mended that the Sanitary District Board of Trustees order




the company, subject to the approval of the State of




Illinois Sanitary Water Board,  to complete pollution




abatement facilities and to comply with waterway waste




criteria by December 15, 19&9-   Tne proposed order would



authorize the Metropolitan Sanitary District attorney to




take legal action if company fails to comply or if the




Water Board refuses to extend the September 30, 1969,




deadline.




               The second company, the Cargill Corporatior




is composed of four individual  divisions:




               Rogers Terminal



               Grain Elevator




               Commodities Division




               Vegetable Oil Division




               A show cause hearing was held on August 19,




1969.




               The Chief Engineer has recommended that th<




Board of Trustees order the company to be  in compliance

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                       B. T. Lynam






with waterway discharge regulations  by September 30, 1969




               Company representatives stated that the



company would be able to  complete facilities to comply



with the order.




               The third  company,, the Catalin Corporation



is  known as the Ashland  Chemical.




               By order dated November 26, 1968, the



Sanitary District Board of Trustees  ordered the company




to complete pollution control facilities by June 24, 1969



The violation was based on failure of an industrial waste




storage lagoon.



               The company was ordered to immediately




abate pollution of the waterway pending completion of




permanent facilities.



               The company complied with the order by




constructing a temporary  lagoon. There has been no report




pollution from the company since the Board Order.



               On June 24, 1969, the Board extended the




construction completion date to August 15, 1969.  Con-



struction of the new lagoon had been delayed due to wet



weather. Construction has been substantially completed.




               A testing  program has been scheduled to

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                       B. T. Lynam






evaluate the plant compliance with waterway discharge




criteria.



               The fourth company, the Ford Motor Company




               The Sanitary District has filed a lawsuit




to obtain compliance with a pollution abatement Order  of




the Sanitary District Board of Trustees.



               At the present time the plant has discon-




tinued discharge of effluent into the Calumet, other than




stormwater and a small amount of cooling water.




               Additional steps have been taken to preven"




possible contamination of stormwater flow to the river.




               Completion of all facilities to insure non-




contamination of stormwater is scheduled for November 17,




1969.



               A sampling program to determine if storm-




water flows are contaminated has been ordered.




               The fifth company., the Interlake Steel  Com




(Chicago plant). I would like to have the first slide,pie



               Analyses of effluent data for Interlake



Steel Company are not available for the first six months




of 1968. The attached table lists average monthly dis-




charge from the Chicago plant.
any,
se,

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                        B.  T.  Lynam






                The Interlake  plant,, on the lake side of




 the  O'Brien  Lock^   has operations on both sides of the




 Calumet  River.  Facilities  for pollution control in the




 coke  plant area have been  completed.  A floating device




 has  been installed in the  private slip to retain any




 accidental spills  of oil from this area.




                The blast furnace area presently discharge




 waste in violation of the  State of Illinois  effluent cri-




 teria.




                The company is constructing a complete




 recycle  system  for the blast  furnace gas  washer water  and




 the  sinter plant effluent.  Sanitary District Board  of




 Trustees have ordered completion of necessary pollution




 control  facilities by September 303 1969*  The  Sanitary




 District attorney  is authorized by the Board Order to




 proceed  with legal action  to  enforce water pollution




 regulations, if company fails to comply.



                The company is proceeding  on  schedule with




 construction of the recycle system.  The  company reports




 that  operation  of  the completed system may be delayed




 until November  15,  1969, due  to inadequate electrical




 supply.  Demand  for additional electricity was created  by

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                       B. T. Lynam






design change which includes recycle of sinter plant



waste not included in original proposal.



               The chart shows there has been a reduction



in the monthly analysis of the 1968 to 1969 values for



suspended solids, for hexanes.  There was an increase in



the cyanide values.  There was a reduction in the phenols



and there was an increase in the ammonia in terms of



total pounds.



               (Which said chart is as follows:)

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                                                                                          EWK- I. ,.C.
                                    INTERLAEE-CHICAGO
                                   BLAST FURNACE AND SINTER PLANT
                                         POUNDS PER DAY

Suspended
Solids
HEXANE
Cyanide
Phenol
•(H3-N
1968
L969
L908
L969
L968
1969
1968
1969
L968
L969
JAN.

16,928

13,984

33.1

49.44

1170.5
FEB.

11,871

3.79S

25.2

110.03

978.8
MAR.

7,872

2,382

31.8

158.35

1892.0
APRIL

10,178

1.346

39.3

29.45

1039.7
HAY
48,341
26,432
51.494
7,622
49.3
37.8
64.9
19.5
932. 2
766.1
JUNE
13,095
12,780
76,488
3,748
26.9
84.9
70.9
13.1
873.2
598 8
JULY
19.14S

37,902

39.1

103.9

981.1

AUG.
8,547

5.369

21.3

73.4

1024.4

SEPT.
71,666

5,370

45.1

80.3

1112.9

	 1
OCT.
12,762

12,486

47. 8

99.6

B42.5

	
NOV.
9,975

7,185

16.8

£5.9

1092.2

DEC.
17.104

8,039

42.0

2.15

1C38.2

Monthly Average
25,080
14,344
25,542
5,480
36.0
42.1
72.6
63.3
1005.9
107 1 . 3
Based on data furnished by Company
                                         -6 A -

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                        B.  T.  Lynam


               MR. LYNAM:   Next  is the  Wisconsin Steel

Company.

               The following  table compares  waste dis-

charge for first six months of 1968 with  first six months

of 1969.  Based on data furnished  by the  company and

substantiated by the Sanitary District  analysis.  In 1968

compared  to 1969 there was  a  reduction  in suspended solids

a reduction in phenols, a  reduction in  cyanides, a reduc-

tion in hexane soluble materials,  and a reduction in

ammonia.

        Pound_s __ per Day - Firs_t_S^i^x_Mon_ths^ ojf _ Yejar

                           1968

Suspended    Phenols    Cyanides     Hexane       WH- -  N
S_oli_ds ___   _____    _______    §olul3les_    __ __ ___

28,471         3^.7        84.7        997        1542

                           1969

Suspended    Phenols    Cyanides     Hexane      NH  - N
Solids
20,928         17-9       65.4        609          624

               Only two outfalls, No. 5 and No.  6,  of an

original thirteen outfalls in 1964 remain in  service.

Wastewater discharged to the river has been reduced from

120 million gallons per day in 1964 to the present  average

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                        B.  T.  Lynam






 of  50 million  gallons  per  day.  The company proposes




 complete  recycle  of  all process  water  by  June 1972.




                The  company is  subject  to  a conciliation




 agreement as provided  by State  statutes.   The agreement




 requires  completion  of all necessary pollution control




 facilities  by  September 30, 1969.   Construction  of




 necessary facilities to meet  State of  Illinois effluent




 criteria  have  been  completed,,  but  violations  of  suspended




 solids  limit of 25 milligrams  per  liter and cyanide  limit




 of  0.025  milligrams  per liter have been reported.




                The  company is attempting  to comply with




 the agreement  by  use of chemical coagulants to improve




 settling  rates  in existing thickeners.




                Sampling analyses of plant  outfalls report




 by  the  company  for the month  of  July show  compliance with




 applicable  waterway  criteria.




                The next slide.




               The seventh  company, Republic  Steel




 Company.




               The following table compares waste dis-




 charge  for  six months  of 1968 with first  six  months  of




 1969.   Based on data submitted by  the  company.

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                       B.  T.  Lynara


This shows a reduction in the suspended solids, the

phenols, cyanides and hexane  solubles.
          Suspended                             Hexane
          Solids
  1968    48,7^0          47.2       177.7       5

  1969    33,978          39-8        17.5       4,150

               Interim reduction in concentrations of

waste was accomplished by replacing a twelve-inch mill

with a new f ourteen-inch mill having adequate treatment

facilities.  Low cyanide in 1969 was caused by shutdown

of blast furnace from March 28,  1969, to May 20,  1969.

               Process water is  now being recirculated

in the Blast Furnace - -Coke Plant,  Open Hearths,  Bar

Mill Reheat Furnace and Blooming Mill area.

               Negotiations with the company resulted in

reducing the proposed construction  schedule by a  total

of twenty months.   That is, September 1, 1972, to Decem-

ber 31, 1970.  The Sanitary District is not authorized to

approve any complaince date beyond  September 30,  1969,

the date established by the State of Illinois for com-

pliance with waterway effluent criteria.

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                        B.  T.  Lynam






                Based  on a  stipulation entered into



 between  the Sanitary  District and  the company,  an Order




 was  passed by  the  Board of Trustees  requiring completion



 of the proposed facilities by September 30,  1969,  with



 the  understanding  that  the request of the  company to




 extend the compliance date to December 31?  1970,  would be



 forwarded by the District  to  the State of  Illinois  Sani-



 tary Water Board for  their consideration.   The  State



 Sanitary Water Board  responded to  the extension request



 and  stated that no decision would  be  made  until after the



 September 30,  1969, deadline.



                In  the event that the  Sanitary Water



 Board does not grant  the extension requested  by Republic



 Steel Company,  the order authorizes  the attorney  for the



 District to take such action  as he should  deem  necessary



 and  proper to  force compliance with  the applicable




 ordinance and  statutes.



                   Construction Schedule



                The company proposes  three  major projects:



                1)  Increase storage capacity for waste




 pickle liquor.  Company  proposes an additional 150,000




 gallons of acid resistant  storage  capacity.   Acid  then

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                       B. T. Lynam






will be removed for off-site disposal.



               2)  New South Treatment Plant for mill




waste having capacity to treat 12,960,000 gallons per day.




               3)  New North Treatment Plant will treat




blast furnace gas washer water and other solids generated




in the area.



               The plant is designed to treat 5^,328,000




gallons per day.  The estimated cost of new facilities




is in excess of $6 million.  The company is proceeding on




schedule with final plant operation scheduled for Decem-




ber 31, 1970.




               The eighth company is the United States




Steel Company—South Works, Calumet Harbor.




               United States Steel Company-South Works




is the only Illinois company discharging directly into



the Calumet Harbor.




               The following table compares the company's



waste discharge to the harbor in pounds per day for the




first six months of 1968 with the first six months of




1969.  All values included in this report are based on




analyses of monthly eight-hour composite samples submitted




by the company.  It shows a rather substantial reduction

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                        B.  T. Lynam


in the  suspended solids concentration.  There was an

increase in  the  phenols.   There was a reduction in

cyanides,,  a  reduction in  hexane solubles, and there was

an increase  in  the  ammonia nitrogen.

        Pounds _p_e_r  Day -  Fir s t Six Mo_nth_s__of _Ye_ar_

                      CALUMET HARBOR
 Suspended     Phenols     Cyanide    Hexane    Ammonia
 S_ol_i._d_s__ __     _____    _____    _____    Nitrogen

 104,323         37.8       657.1    41,862      1,003

                           1969

 Suspended     Phenols     Cyanide    Hexane    Ammonia
 Solids __     _____    _______    _____    N:^tr_og_e_n_

  57,014         82.8       134.2    23,072      1,432

                The  next slide compares the company's

 discharges  to the  Calumet River, and just to go ahead,

 I  have  a slide which  recaps both of these.  You see, we

 are  splitting it  in half showing what goes to the harbor,

 what goes to  the  river, and then a final slide, which I

 will show you later,  is a recap.

                This shows the pounds per day, a six-

 months  comparison  between 1968.  This shows a reduction

 in all  parameters  listed:  suspended solids a substantial

 reduction,  phenols  a  substantial reduction, cyanide a

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                       B. T. Lynam


substantial reduction, hexane solubles a substantial

reduction, and a substantial reduction in ammonia.

        Pounds per Day - First Six MQnths^_of__Ye_ar

                      CALUMET RIVER
Suspended
Solids	

237,324
Suspended
Solids
Phenols
  58.6
Phenols
  1968

Cyanide


 899.9

  1969

Cyanide
Hexane    Ammonia
Solubles
 5,66?
1246
Hexane    Ammonia
Solubles
 12,745         3-4       17.4      2,368       169

               The next table, the next slide, shows the

total poundage from all wastes from the South Works.

This includes the river and the Calumet Harbor and it

shows the first six months of 1968 compared to the first

six months of 1969> and here again it shows a very sub-

stantial reduction in the parameters there listed, suspended

solids, phenols,  cyanide, hexane solubles, and ammonia.

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                        B.  T.  Lynam


        Pounds  per  Day - First Six Months of Year

        Total Plant Discharge -  River and Harbor

                           19.68

 Suspended    Phenols     Cyanide    Hexane      Ammonia
 Solid.s
 341,647         96.4       1557.0     47,529       2249
 Suspended     Phenols     Cyanide    Hexane      Ammonia
 Solids __     _____     ______    S£lu_b_l_e_s_    ______

  69,759         86.2        151.2     24,440       1600

                The Sanitary District has  filed a lawsuit

 in  the Circuit  Court  of  Cook County to  prevent pollution

 of  Lake  Michigan.  A  temporary injunction has  been  issued

 by  the court  restraining the discharge  of oil  into  Lake

 Michigan.   Other  issues  are pending.

                The company in the  interim is proceeding

 with  construction of  a Central Treatment  Plant and  Blast

 Furnace  Wastewater recycle system.   The company has

 stated that completion of  the system will result in  com-

 pliance  with  State of Illinois effluent criteria.

                  Construction Schedule

                1)  Blast furnace gas washer water recycle

 system is designed to eliminate process waste  discharge

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                        B.  T.  Lynam






 from the blast furnace  area into  Calumet  Harbor.   The




 system is scheduled for initial operation November 1,




 1970.   Concrete form work  for cooling  tower  foundations




 has  been completed.



                2)   Structural mills  cooling  water  recycle




 system is scheduled for initial operation May  I, 1970.




 Utilities relocating to serve this system is under con-




 struction.



                3)   Continuous caster scale pit  effluent




 system is scheduled for initial operation September  1,




 1970.   Construction is  scheduled  to  start November !_,




 1969.



                4)   Central  Treatment Plant is  scheduled




 for  completion December 31*  1970.




                MR.  STEIN:   Thank  you.




                I wonder if  any of  the  conferees want  to



 come back up while  we have  comments  or questions on




 a  very excellent report from  the  Metropolitan  District.




                This  is  just  a generalized comment. Some-




 thing  ~L  think  we possibly have to  clarify—maybe Mr.  Bacor




 wants  to comment on this too--is  the notion  of  the report




 we got from Mr.  Pemberton which indicated little or  no

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                       V. ¥.  Bacon






 change  and  an  improvement  in  the water quality here in




 the  groups  that  Mr.  Bacon  pointed out, particularly at




 Stations  11, 12  and  13,  and then in accordance with that




 comment,  a  very  significant reduction  reported in the




 kind of waste  put  out, and  yet  possibly the  relationship




 of that to  water quality not  being as  significant as



 someone other  than an  expert  might imagine  it.




               MR. BACON:   Mr.  Chairman,  as  I  pointed



 out,  these  are the same  figures  that were used in Mr.



 Pemberton's report,  and  I  believe it is on  page 4 of his




 report, where  he is  talking about Stations  11  and 13.



 He talks  about the two together  and the comments  or the




 statements  are essentially  the  same. We singled out the



 station most important to  us  in  our measuring  program,




 namely  11,  to  emphasize  what  considerable progress  has




 been made.



               I think I can  say there is no contradictioj




 between the two  statements  at all,  no  conflict.




               MR. POSTON:  Mr.  Bacon,  while the  Chairman




 leaves  the  room, he  asked me  to  keep this going.   I have




 a couple  of questions here  pertaining  to  the reports you




 and  Mr. Lynam made and I would  particularly  like  to ask.

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                       V. W. Bacon






will the construction that is under way permit the meetin




of the water quality standards?



               MR. BACON:  That is a question, of course,




that we have struggled with every day that we have con-




sidered these two large dischargers and others.  To the




best of our technical ability,  and assuming that the




designs will be adequate and that the facilities^ once




constructed^will be properly operated and maintained, it




is our opinion that the proposed construction will meet




the State of Illinois water quality standards that we




and the District are enforcing.




               MR. POSTON:   My  second question has to do



with schedules, and I wonder,  in the construction in




meeting these deadlines does the work schedule contemplate




one shift per day or two shifts per day or three shifts



per day?




               MR. BACON:  Mr.  Poston,  I think they have



been asked to appear and I  think that question could be




more properly addressed to  them.  I don't know how many




shifts per day they are going to work.   I do know that




after we boiled this thing down  from  sometime in 1972 to




sometime in the latter part of  1970,we  felt that we had

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                        V.  W.  Bacon






 gotten  out  of  their construction schedule what  we at one




 time  called considerable  fat.   So I would answer that




 generally we believe that  it  is about as tight  as it can



 be  now.




                Mr.  Poston,  may I add a word  about their




 construction schedule,  particularly U. S. Steel's?



                MR.  POSTON:  Yes, sir.




                MR.  BACON:   Although that has  not been



 acted upon  by  the  State Sanitary Water Board  and although




 it  has  not  been acted upon  by  the Sanitary District




 Board other than a very careful study of it,  the schedule




 is  being  followed  that  we had  attached to the stipulation



 which is  the detail of  a  considerable number  of  sheets




 which we  have  furnished to  your office,  to Secretary



 Klein's office and  to Mr. Klassen's office.      fhe




 schedule  is quite  complete  and they are  following that



 in  anticipation of  the  completion being  on or before




 December  31, 1970.



                MR.  POSTON:  This is  on the last page  of




 your  presentation?



                MR.  BACON:   No,  the  construction  schedule




 as  submitted to us  by U. S. Steel,  and this  is the fifth

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                       V. W. Bacon






one that I mentioned, and that we have agreed to is




document on legal cap about five or six pages long




setting forth every piece of equipment facility that they




will be constructing.




               MR. POSTON:  Yes.



               MR. BACON:  And I wanted to.point out




that there is no lack of action on the part of the com-




pany while action is pending on the part of this body,




the State of Illinois and the Sanitary District.




               MR. STEIN:  Are there any other questions?




               Mr. Klassen?




               MR. KLASSEN:   I just want to correct one




statement here.   In the letter referring to U. S.  Steel,




on the bottom of page 2 it says that the Sanitary District



Board directed a copy of the stipulation be forwarded to




the Sanitary Water Board with a request for the Sanitary




Water Board to indicate in writing its approval and upon




receipt thereof  the District give this matter further con-



sideration.




              For the record,  this stipulation was sent




to the Sanitary  Water Board approximately a week ago, but




it was requested that we give it our comments and not

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                        V.  ¥.  Bacon






approval as indicated  here.   I  want  the  record  to  show




that comments were  requested  and  our comments were  given




in a letter to the  District August 19th.




               MR.  BACON:  Thank you  very much,  Mr.




Klassen, for that correction.   I  picked  that up this




morning too.  First of all, we  reported  that orally and




then we sent it  down in a  somewhat informal way.  And  so




thanks for the correction. The  end result we hope will




be the same.




               MR.  STEIN:  Are  there any other  comments




or questions?




               MR.  BACON:  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you  very




much for the opportunity of appearing.   If you  want us




back for any reason, we will  come back.   I hope the




record will clearly show,  and the memories will serve




that record, that we did appear here today.  (Laughter.)




               MR.  STEIN:  I  don't think anyone can forge




your appearances.   (Laughter.)



               But  I will  say in  summary, I do  think that




what we have is  a report of the Sanitary District moving




on all the significant sources  of wastes within the juris




diction of the District and we  have  got  a report in prett

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                      Murray Stein






much significant detail of what the Sanitary District is




doing.




               Now, again let me indicate this in sum-




mary.  The point is, I think the District and the indus-




tries concerned are proceeding as best they and everyone




knows how, on the substance of putting in treatment




facilities which are going to meet the water quality




requirements we have for the particular waters.  The




question of when they are going to do it has been laid




out and this is a determination for the conferees to




consider.  But I do not think there is any case—and if




there is I would like to know — of any specific signifi-




cant industrial source in the District that the Sanitary




District does not have a program for on which to move




ahead.




               Now, we face this larger question.  This




does not apply to the Sanitary District alone, but it




applies to the sources outside the District, in Indiana




and Illinois.  I say this to all concerned here, that




even if all this work is done, are we going to get the




kind of water quality that we are working toward with




this program?  I know we can get diverted on these

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                       Murray Stein






 dates and  pushes  and  material here,  but I have the




 feeling that we are  possibly over  the  hump in  this




 aspect of  the  case.   The  next real task we have  to  get




 moving on  is au analysis  whereby we  are going  to have




 a  unified  report  indicating  a prediction pretty  soon by




 the  scientists in all four jurisdictions concerned:  1)




 whether the  completion of this work  is  going to  give us




 the  water  quality we  need; and 2)  if it isn't, what more




 we have to do  to  get  it.  Because  I  know everyone is




 going to be  unhappy  if all this work is completed and




 someone comes  in  with an  analysis  of some water  and says




 the  fecal  coliforms  are high,  or the ammonia is  creeping



 up,  or the water  is  degraded,  or it  is  not as  good as it




 was  when we  started.   This is  our  objective and  what we




 have to do.



               Now,  again—and I say this as something




 I  know can be  done because we  have done it here; we have




 done it in other  places—what we are dealing with are




 physical facts subject to measurement.   I know there may




 be honest  differences of  opinion among  the technical




 people who do  the evaluating,  but  I  think it would help,




 really help, the  conferees if  we could  get a unified

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	126




                       Murray  Stein






 statement  of  all  the  Jurisdictions  concerned  in  relation




 to  water quality  and  trends in  water  quality.   If  there




 is  any  difference,  of course, it  should  come  to  the




 attention  of  the  conferees.   But  I  don't think  that  the




 conferees  should  get  differences  because of  possibly a




 different  emphasis  on a  treatment source or a different




 use of  methodology, etc.   These are technical matters




 which  surely  the  technical people can  achieve.




                I  do believe that  we are  going to have




 an  obligation from here  on out  indicating  to  the people




 of  the  area precisely what the  water  quality  improvement




 results are of  this remedial  program,  and  this is  what




 we  face.




                I  think the report we  have  gotten from




 the Sanitary  District brings  us a long way toward  that.




 I think the report of the  Sanitary District this morning




 and the other reports we have also have  enabled us to




 zero in with  precision on  every significant source that




 we  know of.   Now, things may  develop  in  the future or




 may come up that  we don't  recognize now, but  I. am  sure




 we  have presented as  clear a  picture  as  we can.

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                        A.  J. Mikva







                ¥e  are going to recess for lunch now.




 This  afternoon we  are going to call on United States




 Steel  and  Republic Steel for a presentation and then we




 will  hear  from Illinois and Indiana.




                But first before we go, is Mr. Nicholas




 Melas  here?




                Nick,  I think you have a statement from




 a  Congressman  you  would like to put into the record.









                      ABNER J.  MIKVA




                       CONGRESSMAN




               SECOND  CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT




                       OF ILLINOIS




            (READ BY NICHOLAS J. MELAS, TRUSTEE




    METROPOLITAN SANITARY DISTRICT OP GREATER CHICAGO)








                MR.  MELAS:   Mr.  Chairman and conferees.




                I am Nicholas Melas,  Trustee of the Metro-




 politan Sanitary District,  and also a resident of the




 2nd Congressional  District of  Illinois.  The Congressman




 from my District asked me  if I  would  present a statement




 on his behalf.

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                       A. J. Mikva
               This is a statement of the Honorable




Abner J. Mikva, Congressman^Second District,Illinois .




               (Which said statement is as follows:)

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                               STATEMENT OF




                        HONORABLE ABNER J. MIKVA




                               of ILLINOIS




                BEFORE  THE  CALUMET  ENFORCEMENT CONFERENCE




                              ON LAKE MICHIGAN




                             Chicago, Illinois




                              August 26, 1969









     Mr.  Chairman:   The  residents of the 2nd Congressional District have'waited




far too  long  for an end  to pollution in the Calumet area.   They must not be




asked to wait longer.




     They have been promised clean water for years.  Thirteen years ago  the




Water Quality Act provided for abatement conferences.  Four years  ago this




Conference found the waters  badly polluted  and recommended action.   It has




been three years since the Conference laid  down water-quality criteria and




set December  1968 as the deadline for completion of pollution-control




facilities.  It  was February 1968 when I urged the Lake Michigan Four State




Pollution Conference to  take immediate steps to begin restoration  of the




Lake. Yet, despite all  of these  deadlines  and warnings, at last report  the




water was just as dirty  as it was in 1965.




     The December 1968 deadline was  a generous one.  It allowed nearly three




years for the installation of facilities that  should have been installed long




before.   Many companies  proceeded in good faith to comply.  But United States




Steel and Republic  Steel did not.  Neither  company even submitted  preliminary




plans on schedule.




     This behavior  must  not  be condoned. Water pollution today is unforgivable,




because  we have  the technology and  the money to eliminate it.  The public




expects  this  Conference  to do something about it.  To extend the deadline  for




companies that have thumbed their noses at  the public interest would make this

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                                    -2-








Conference a cruel hoax and break faith with the people.   The Conference has




an obligation to recommend strict sanctions  against  polluters who  do not




comply with the abatement schedule.



     It is time to let those who  treat  our lakes and streams  as  sewers  know




that procrastination will no longer  be  taken for an  answer.   The 1968




deadline must not be extended.  It must be enforced.



     If somebody throws garbage on the  street,  he is properly punished.




We cannot afford the naive thought that our  lakes and streams are  any less



precious than our asphalt.

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                      Murray Stein






               MR. MELAS:  That is the statement of the




Congressman.




               (Applause.)




               MR. STEIN:  Thank you., Mr. Melas.




               We will stand recessed for lunch for an




hour and a half.   That means we will return at 20 to 2.




                     (NOON RECESS)

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                   AFTERNOOIf_SES_SrON






               MR. STEIN:  Let's reconvene.




               May we hear from Republic Steel.









          GEORGE J. GOCKSTETTER, SUPERINTENDENT




            FUEL-POWER-AIR & WATER MANAGEMENT




                REPUBLIC STEEL CORPORATION




                    CHICAGO, ILLINOIS








               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  Chairman Stein, conferees




               My name is George Gockstetter. I am employed




as Superintendent of the Fuel-Power-Air & Water Management




at Republic Steel's South Chicago Plant.  I have been with




the Republic Steel since 194-3.




               Republic has had a continuing program of




pollution control and water management consistent with




water quality requirements for the Calumet River.  Various




aspects of this program have been discussed in previous




statements made by Republic to this conference.




               Between 1958 and 196? Republic invested moi




than $5 million in new water pollution control facilities




We are now proceeding on schedule towards completion of

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






new  facilities  costing  an  additional $6 million.   Some




of the  projects  initiated  since 1958 and continuing




through the  1965 conference are:




                In 1958,  the plant's  new eleven-inch Bar




Mill was  placed  in operation.   This  mill featured  the




latest  equipment available for the recovery of  oil and




mill scale which otherwise would  be  discharged  to  the




Calumet River.   Adjacent to this  mill is a ten-inch "bar




and  rod mill which previously  did not have adequate pol-




lution  control  equipment and this was at the same  time




connected to a  new pollution control facility,  the eleven




inch mill.



                In 1961,  we installed the first  of  five




mechanical cleaning facilities to replace acid  cleaning




of mill scale from bar  products.   This reduced  the amount




of waste  pickle  liquor  being discharged.




                In 1964,  we installed three additional




grit blast cleaning facilities.  These installations,




with those instituted in 196l, reduced the amount  of acid




used by 65 percent.



                In 1965,  continuous oil removal  equipment




was  installed in the scale recovery  facilities  for "both

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                    G. J. Gockstetter






the eleven-inch and ten-inch bar mills.



               In 1965, we contracted with an outside




firm to make off-site disposal of all of the remaining




spent pickle liquor.



               In September 1966 we retained an outside




engineering firm to make an in-depth survey of the plant




to determine what terminal treatment facilities could be




provided to satisfy whatever requirements might be estab-




lished by the State or Metropolitan Sanitary District




authorities with respect to water quality in the Calumet




River.



               In 1967 Republic completed and placed in




operation a new multi-million dollar fourteen-inch Bar




Mill with a $1,750,000 closed recirculating water system




to recover oil and scale and prevent river pollution.




This new mill, with the most modern waste control equip-




ment available, replaced an existing twelve-inch Bar Mill




which had not been equipped with adequate pollution con-




trol devices.  The twelve-inch mill was shut down and




dismantled and thus eliminated that discharge.




               In April 1968 the Illinois Sanitary Water




Board's Rules and Regulations SWB-15 established

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






requirements  relating  to water quality of the Calumet




River.  In  June  Republic submitted a program to meet




the requirements.   The  program calls for the construction




of three  terminal  wastewater treatment plants designed




so the  Chicago plant will  meet the water quality criteria




adopted for the  Calumet River under SWB-15.




               I have  here two photographs of artist's




drawings  showing how the new water treatment facilities




will  look after  construction is completed.  The photo-




graphs  are  captioned "Water Treatment Plants #1 and  #2




Waste"  and  "Water  Treatment Plant #3 Waste,"  I also have



included  in your packet, gentlemen,  a CPM Revision k,




which was referred to  previously, which outlines our




Critical  Path Method of determining and detailing the



engineering,  procurement and construction time schedules




with  respect  to  these  plants.   I would like  to submit




these photographs,  together with a copy of the revised




CPM diagram and  plans  of the treatment pl-ants dated




November  15,  1968,  which are shown in these  drawings in




the back.



               MR.  STEIN:  Do you want this in the record?




               MR.  GOCKSTETTER:  Yes, sir.

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                    G. J. Gockstetter






               MR. STEIN:  Let us try to put these  in




the record.  I am going to try to, if I can, reduce  this




Critical Path method to one page.  Would that be all  right?




Because if we try this insert folded in this size for




the record, it is going to push the price way up.




               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  I see.




               (Laughter.)



               MR. STEIN: What you have to do is get a




special hand print job and a hand insert on each one.




But I think this will come through.  If we can't do it,




we will expand it.



               0 . K ., thank you.




               (Which said photographs and documents are




as follows:)

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






                MR.  GOCKSTETTER:   Plants  1  and  2  are  being




 built  at  a  location at  the  south  end of  the  steel  plant.




 These  plants, which are  being  combined,  are  designed for




 the  removal  of  scale and oil from Republic's hot mills




 and  to  neutralize  and precipitate the  metals in  the  rinse




 water  from  the  pickling  operation.




                Republic  already has a  large  primary




 settling  facility  serving  the  bar mills  which  consists




 of two  automatically cleaned sedimentation basins.   The




 effluent  from the  sedimentation basins will  be recircu-




 lated  to  the mill  for service  water with approximately




 1,300  gallons per  minute being pumped  as blowdown  to the




 new  combined terminal treatment plant. Another 1,100




 gallons per  minute  pumping  station will  be constructed



 to intercept the rinse water from the  pickling process.




 In addition, part  of the wastewater from the steel mill




 operation will  be  intercepted  and pumped to  the  new




 combined  treatment  facility.   The pump station will  have




 a capacity  of 6,600 gallons per minute and a 20-inch



 force main  some 820 feet long.




                All  these waste streams will  be directed




 to the  combined treatment plant whose  capacity will  be

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                     G. J.  Gockstetter





 9,000 gallons per minute or 12,960,000 gallons per day.



 The  combined treatment plant would serve a population



 in excess  of 100,000 people or a town the size of Spring-



 field,  Illinois, or Peoria.  The wastes will be conveyed



 to a rapid mix tank where  lime and other coagulant aids



 will be added.  The waste  will then flow to flocculator-



 clarifiers ninety feet in  diameter, two of them which



 are  shown  here in this picture.



                The clear effluent will overflow a periphe



 weir and be discharged to  the river.   The settled solids



 or sludge  will be thickened and then  dried by vacuum fil-



 ters .



                Plant #3 is   being located to serve the



 north end  of the steel plant.  This has a single clari-



 fier unit.   The wastes to  be treated  here are solids



 originating from the gas cleaning operation at the blast



 furnace and certain other  solids generated in this area.



 The  existing facilities for treating  these wastes are a



 traveling  screen,  a clarifier-thickener,  and associated



 pumps and  equipment including vacuum  filters for drying




 the  sludge.



                The volume  of wastewater to be processed
al

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






at  Plant #3  is  approximately  3*700  gallons  per  minute




or  5,320,000 gallons  per  day.   The  treatment  provided




by  the  new plant will  be  flocculation-clarification.




The new clarifier-thickener will be eighty  feet in




diameter and fourteen  feet deep.




                A new  control  building  is  being  constructe




to  house the chemical  feed equipment and  vacuum filters




for dewatering  the  sludge.



                In addition to  these terminal  treatment




facilities,  we  are  adding  additional storage  and collec-




tion facilities for  pickle liquor,  which will be con-




structed as  part of  the current program.  This involves th<




installation of five  acid  resistant pumping stations  to




collect acid at all  locations  and the  installation of an




additional 150,000  gallons of  acid  resistant  storage.




This system  will make  it  possible to continue off-site




disposal or  to  use  the  spent  pickle liquor  as a coagulant



in  the  treatment plants.




                As indicated by the  CPM diagram,  these




facilities are  to be  completed by December  31,  1970.



These plants are large  and complex  facilities which




require considerable  time  for  procurement,  engineering

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






and  construction.   The  location of these  plants  in a




congested  operating area along with relocating undergroun




facilities  and  the  placement of foundations  on slag fille




land requires  this  time schedule.   Passing through these




plant sites  are railroad tracks and plant roads  for truck




shipment which  must be  maintained  in operation.   Numerous




underground  utilities  such as fire lines, city and




service water  lines,  oxygen, coke  gas  and nitrogen lines,




sanitary sewers and electrical conduits  have all required




relocating.




                On April 11,  1969,  groundbreaking cere-




monies for  this water  treatment complex  were held marking




the  formal  beginning of actual construction  of these new




facilities.  We  were privileged to  have as our guests at




these ceremonies a  number of persons representing various




governmental agencies  and political bodies.



                Republic is currently on  time with the




schedules  set  forth in  the CPM diagram.  I would  like to




submit copies  of reports which have been  submitted by




Republic to  the Metropolitan Sanitary  District of Greater




Chicago which  show  Republic's progress in carrying out




this  program.   These  are included  in the  brochure,

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gentlemen^ which consist of letters which were reports




made by ourselves to the District and Sanitary Water




Board.




               (Which said letters are as follows:)

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                                     [REPUBLIC]
                REPUBLIC STEEL CORPORATION
                    OENIIUAL OTFICCS  REPiJDLIf: OUILDINO, CLEVCLAND, OMIO
 G. J. GOCKSTETTER
   SW'T FUEI_. PO\VER.
AIR AND WATER MANAGEMENT
     CHICAGO DISTRICT
 1 16TH STREET 6c BURIEV AVENUE
 CHICAGO, ILLINOIS eoeir
                                              March 28, 1969
      Mr.  Forrest Keil,  Acting Chief Engineer
      Metropolitan Sanitary District
      of Greater Chicago
      100  East Erie Street
      Chicago, Illinois   6o6ll
      Progress Report
      Dear Sir:

      This progress report  is being made  in accordance with (b) paragraph 12
      of the Stipulation between the Metropolitan Sanitary District and Republic
      .Steel Corporation dated February 13, 19^9•  The report is based on the
      C?M Diagram (rev. k)  submitted vith a letter addressed to Vinton W. Bacon
      dated December 6, 1968 along with other attachments.

      Plant 1 & 2

      Waste Acid System and Coil Anneal (CCA)
                Electrical design - Preliminary complete
                                   Final  complete

                Mechanical design - Preliminary complete
                                   Final  complete

                Structural design - Preliminary complete
                                   Final  complete

                Prepare general construction specifications
                review and approval

                Out to contractors for bids
12-19-68
 3-26-69

12-17-68
 3-10-69

12-19-68
 3-17-69
  14-1-69

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Progress Report - Metropolitan Sanitary District
Page Two
Scarfing Area, Pumping Station and Pipe Line

           Electrical design - Preliminary complete         1-7-69
                               Final complete              3-17-69

           Mechanical design - Preliminary complete        1-10-69
                               Final complete              3-17-69

           Structural design - Preliminary complete        1-15-69
                               Final complete              3-16-69

           General construction specifications
                               Out for "bids                 U-l-69

#2 Pumping Station,, Clarifier & Filter Building

           Electrical design - Preliminary complete        1-20-69
                               Final complete              3-20-69

           Mechanical design - Preliminary complete        1-30-69
                               Final complete              3-20-69

           Structural design - Preliminary complete        1-28-69
                               Final complete

           General construction specifications
                               Out for bids

Prepare Equipme:it Specifications for Pumps, Clarifiers, Etc.

           Specifications issued                           12-1-68

           Evaluate bids                                    2-25-69

           Orders placed for clarifiers, filters,
           rapid mix, etc.                                 3-2lt-69

           General construction specifications
                               Out for bids                 U-l-69

Preliminary Mechanical Design Outfall #1 Area

           All preliminary drawings - complete              2-U-69

           Electrical design - final                       3-10-69

           Mechanical design - final                       3-13-69

           Arch, and structural design - final             3-13-69

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Progress  Report - Metropolitan Sanitary District
Page Three
Prepare general construction specifications
review and approval - out for bids
                                                           3-15-69
           Order placed - Ed Gray                          3-27-69
Plant jf3
           Prepare general construction specifications -    U-l-69
           complete

           Electrical design - Preliminary complete         3-H-69
                               Final complete               ^-1-69

           Mechanical design - Preliminary complete        2-26-69
                               Final complete               U-l-69

           Structural design - Preliminary complete         3-7-69
                               Final complete               t-1-69

Clarifier Equipment and Filters

           Specifications -written                          12-1-68

           Bids evaluated                                  2-25-69

           Orders placed                                   3-2^-69

A comparison of the foregoing dates with those shown on the CPM Diagram (rev.  U)
shows that we are on schedule in all phases of the project.  Should any additional
information be required, we will gladly supply same upon request.

                                           Yours truly,
                                           G. J. Gocks tetter
                                           Supt. , Fuel-Power-Air & Water
                                           Management
cc:  E. Knight - MSD
     C. Klassen - SW3

GJG/slo

bcc:  R. P. Carpenter
      A. A. Kappenhagen
      R. W. Engelbert
      L. F. BirXel
      J. W. Mills

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      REPUBLIC  STEEL  CORPORATION
                               June 2, 1969
Mr. Forrest Sell, Acting Chief Engineer
Metropolitan Sanitary District
of Greater Chicago
100 East Erie Street
Chicago, Illinois  6o6ll
Progress Report

Dear Sir:

Thia progress report is being made in accordance vith (b) paragraph 12
of the Stipulation betveen the Metropolitan Sanitary District and Republic
Steel Corporation dated February 13» 196"9.   This report is based on the
CPM diagram (rev U) submitted vith a letter to Vinton W. Bacon dated
December $, 1968 along vith other attachments.


Plants II. # 2 and ff 3

        Construction of the diversion severs at plants #1 and 02
        along vith the revisions to the flume at the #3 plant, started
        on April 1, 1969 is nov complete.

        Proposals from contractors have been received and evaluated.
        Our recommendations vill be submitted to the Republic Steel
        Purchasing Department this week and a contract negotiated vith
        the successful bidder the veek of  June 15, 1969.

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     REPUBLIC  STEEL  CORPORATION
Mr, Forrest Neil, Acting Chief Engineer        June 2, 1969
Metropolitan Sanitary District
of Greater Chicago
100 East Erie Street
Chicago, Illinois  60611
Page -2-
       •Attached herewith are copies of the following purchase orders
        numbered.
                        H-91505-62
                        H-91522-62
                        H-91612-62
                        E-91100-26
                        11-91162-26

        This  confirms our report dated March 28, 1969 vhich included
        the purchase of tho Clarifiers, vacuum filters, electrical
        equipment etc, for the three -waste vater treatment plants.
                                Yours truly,
                                G-. J. Gockstetter
                                Supt; Fuel-Power-Air & Water
                                      Management
Enclo,
cc:  E. Knight    MSD
    C. Klassen   SWB

GJG/Js
bee:  R. P.  Carpenter
     A. A.  Kappenhagen
     R. W.  En^elbert
     L. P.  Birkel
     j. w.

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                                      [REPUBLIC]


                 REPUBLIC STEEL CORPORATION
                     OENCRAL OrriCES REPUBLIC B OILOI NO . CL C VCU AN O, OHIO
 G. J. GOCKSTETTER
                                                                  CHICAOO DISTRICT
   6UP-T FUCL.
AIM AND WATCH MANAOCMBNT
11OTM STRICT fll BU«L«V AVCNUC
CHICAGO. ILLINOIS soei?
                                     June 26, 1969
           Franklin D. Yoder M.D.  M.P.H.
           State of Illinois Sanitary Water Board
           Springfield, Illinois  62706

           Dear Sir:

           In compliance with the request of the Sanitary Water Board in their
           letter to you dated March 10, 1969, the last  sentence of the Sanitary
           Water Boards action on March U, stated, "Further, that a progress report
           be submitted on or about  July 1."  I submit the following which is
           indicative of our progress on the construction of the Waste Water Treat-
           ment facilities in this district.

           Copies of the bi-monthly  written reports to the Chief Engineer of The
           Metropolitan Sanitary District are attached herewith along with copies
           of purchase orders to venders for the major pieces of equipment. Republic
           Steel's program is "On Time" in relation to the CPM submitted to the
           Sanitary District of Greater Chicago.

           All of the underground sewer revisions have been completed, under permit
           # 69-^27 issued by the Metropolitan Sanitary  District and The Department
           of Sewers, City of Chicago, Illinois.

           A contract has been awarded to Ed. Gray Corporation, 12230 South Ave.
           "0", for the erections and installation of all of the components and
           structures for plants # 1 # 2 and # 3 all of  which will be worked sim-
           ultaneously.
                                               Yours truly.
                                               G.  J. Gockstetter
                                               Supt:Fuel-Power-Air & Water
                                                   Management
           End.

           GJG/Js

           cc:  file

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     REPUBLIC STEEL CORPORATION
                             JtOy 29, 1969
 Mr. Forrest Sell, Acting Chief Engineer
 Metropolitan Sanitary District of
 Greater Chicago
 100 East Erie Street
 Chicago* Illinois  £o£ll


 Progress Report

 Pear
 This progress report is tjelng siad* in accordance with (b) paragraph 12 of
 the Stipulation Isetveen the Metropoltt».a Sanitary  Dintriet «ad Republic
 Steal Corporation dated February 13* 19&9-  This report is fcaced on the
 CKJ fiic,3ra-s (rev fc) submitted with a letter to Vlnton W. Bacon dated December
 6, 1968 along vith other a.ttactuacrte»
          A ccnersi construction contract vaa awarded to the Edward
          Gray Corporation of Chicago, Illinois, oa June 2k, 190 for
          the Gravity ficwer "Gw  force BiaiKB, pisnplcg stations aud ell of
          tb® facilities for plants fl» S2 acd #3.

          EStcavatios has started oa all thre« plants for the foundations w
          requires fievatering aad in serae cases, blastlcs to clear the sites

          The underground sever  re-visions in both sites in cosr^leto.

          The Waste Water ^reateent planrts construction, is on schedule
          relative to the CTM diagram (rer U)
                                       Yours truly,


                                       0. J. Cfoc&stetter
                                       Sw>t:Fuel-P
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               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  I would also like to




submit some photographs which were taken just this past




week showing the site of the No. 3 plant, showing the




diversion structure and the area where we must relocate




underground lines. This closeup here, it is this picture




number 42 D, gentlemen, shows the sewer which is a 48-




inch sewer completed and the gas, water and nitrogen or




oxygen lines are being relocated around this area.




               This is a picture of plant 1 and 2 showing




the forming. This is on picture 42 L, 7242 L.  It shows




the forming which has started and the circular form for




the clarifier.




               There are some other pictures there where




you can see where we are moving on the project.




               (Which said pictures are as follows:)

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                     G. J. Gockstetter






                MR.  GOCKSTETTER:  I believe you would be




 interested in a brief statement about the current status




 of  Republic's program so far as the Metropolitan Sanitary




 District of Greater Chicago and the Illinois Sanitary



 Water Board are concerned.




                On February 13,  1969,  a stipulation was



 entered between the Metropolitan Sanitary District and




 Republic agreeing to an order which concluded a show




 cause proceeding against Republic.  The stipulation was




 arrived at after Republic had submitted a program and




 time  schedule for the construction  of water  pollution




 control facilities  which included the three  wastewater




 treatment plants I  have described.




                As part of the stipulation^Republic




 requested that the  Metropolitan Sanitary District trans-




 mit to the Illinois Sanitary Water  Board for its  con-



 sideration,  pursuant to its Rules and Regulations SWB-15,




 Republic's proposed construction program and CPM  diagram,




 together with Republic's request for  an extension of the




 completion date for these facilities  to December  31,  1970




 The completion date provided in SWB-15 is  September 30,




 1969.

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                    G. J- Gockstetter






               The order entered pursuant to the stipu-




lation directed Republic to continue expeditiously the




construction of the waste control facilities and to



submit bimonthly written reports setting forth Republic's




progress and directed the attorney for the Sanitary




District to transmit to the Illinois Sanitary Water



Board Republic's request for an extension of compliance




and completion date.



               At a meeting on March 4, 1969, the Illinois




Sanitary Water Board took the following action:



               "l move that the Technical Secretary be



authorized and instructed to advise the Metropolitan



Sanitary District and the Republic  Steel Corporation



that the proposal and time schedule appear to be reason-




able,  but that the Sanitary Water Board will continue to



follow its policy of reevaluating the progress made by




the corporation,  and that on or about the SWB-15 deadline




date of September 30, 1969, if the  evaluation indicates



the corporation has proceeded and is proceeding on the




submitted schedule, then favorable  action on the requestel




extension would be taken at that time.   Further  that a



progress report be submitted on or  about July 1."

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                     G. J. Gockstetter






                Thank you, gentlemen, and if there are



 any questions,  you may ask them.




                MR. STEIN:  Are there any comments or



 questions?




                Yes, Mr.  Poston.




                MR. POSTON:  I would like to ask Mr.



 Gockstetter two or three questions.




                The first one pertains to the disposal of



 your acid  pickling liquor.  You  indicated you contracted



 with--




                MR. GOGKSTETTER:   K-A Steel.



                MR. POSTON:  --some other company to  haul




 this away.  Where did this go?



                MR. GOCKSTETTER:  They have installed



 facilities  on our property to convert it to  ferrous




 sulfate, which  they in turn sell to various  sanitary




 districts  for a coagulating aid.



                MR. POSTON:  The  reason I ask this  is




 that I know of  certain areas where these wastes  have




 been hauled away and dumped into the streams by a con-




 tractor  unauthorized.



                MR. GOGKSTETTER:   No,  this is converted.

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                     G. J.  Gockstetter






                MR. POSTON:   I wanted to  check  on that.




                The second  thing  that I was  curious  about




 was  whether  the working  construction plans  have  all "been




 completed  and have those been given to the  Sanitary




 District?



                MR. GOCKSTETTER:  All of  the drawings  are




 complete.  Now, there are  some 450 drawings. We  have  not




 supplied all of them to  them, but we have submitted




 letters to them which you  have there indicating  the




 dates, and so forth, where we have accomplished  certain




 things and submitted copies  of the purchase orders  to




 them showing that we have  accomplished things  in this




 direction.   In  addition  to that, representatives of the




 District have been out and inspected the facilities



 themselves.




                MR. POSTON:   And  then will these  plans and



 specs be available to the  Technical Committee  who are




 looking into the water quality as they envision  after



 these facilities are in  operation?




                MR. GOCKSTETTER:  Our plans  are open to



 anybody.




                MR. POSTON:   And  the other question  that

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                    G.  J.  Gockstetter

I have in my mind is, in your  construction  how  many
shifts will be working on this  construction  project?
               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  We  are  working everybod
that we can.  There are two  things that  dictate what we
can do and one is the availability of  manpower  and
materials.  Some of these  pumps  are  very long delivery
and we are working as fast as  possible,  and  if  we can
we will certainly improve  the  completion  date of  this
December 30r
               MR. POSTON:   Are  you  approximately on
schedule?
               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  We  are  actually a  little
bit ahead of schedule right  now., Mr. Poston.
               MR. POSTON:   Relative to  this  shift  and
how many shifts you are working, I don't  know whether I
exactly understood how many  shifts.  I did understand the
you said that you are restricted in  some  areas  by receipt
of materials and in shortage of  labor.   I guess my  impres
sion is, your main plant is  your manufacturing  capacity,
they operate more than one schedule, is  that  not right?
               MR. GOCKSTETTER:  Yes,  that is true.
               MR. POSTON:   Well, I  was  just  interested

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






 in whether or  not  this  work  was  progressing as  fast as




 the manufacturing?



                MR.  GOCKSTETTER:   Yes.   In  fact,  we  are




 working carpenters  some 21  turns  a  week  in   some




 of these areas when we  can get them, but they  are not




 always  available.



                MR.  POSTON:   For  construction--




                MR.  GOCKSTETTER:   For forming for concrete




 for example.



                MR.  POSTON:   Yes.  Of the treatment  works



 that you are building?




                MR.  GOGKSTETTER:   Wherever  we can we use



 all we  can get and  based upon the availability of equip-



 ment .




                MR.  POSTON:   This  is a very enlightening



 report  and I thank  you.




                MR.  STEIN:  Wait,  we have some further



 questions.




                Do you have some,  Mr. Klassen?



                MR.  KLASSEN:  No.




                MR.  STEIN:  Well,  I have, and let me try




 this.   I think there are two elements here.  One, the

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                    G. J. Gockstetter






substance of what you are doing, and two,  the time.




               Now I also think, as always when Republic




puts in a report, this is a very enlightening report and




I think we can get a rather precise notion of what you



propose to do.




               But as I understand this, by September 30,




1969, which is about a month from now, you expect either




to get approval or disapproval, that is of the proposal,




from the Illinois Sanitary Water Board.  I would like to




divide this if I might, Mr. Klassen, into  two points.  I




wonder if the Illinois Sanitary Water Board has looked




over these plans and if it is satisfied, aside from the




time that it is going to take, that this is going to do




the trick, and substantively that a judgment might be




able to be reached by September 30.  Now,  I don't know




how big a job that is going to be for you  people.  But




if they are going to make this determination whether




you are going to do this or not, do you think it is




physically possible to do this by September 30?




               MR. KLASSEN:  Physically possible--




               MR. STEIN:  For the Board to make a

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                     G.  J.  Gockstetter






 determination  on  the basis  of  the  Republic  plans  whether




 what  they are  proposing is  satisfactory  or  not.   We  are




 not  talking  about the  date.



                MR. KLASSEN:  Let me  say,  Mr.  Chairman,




 you  asked me if I had  any  questions.   I  do  not, but  for




 the  record we  have had  the  plans for a number  of  months




 from  Republic  Steel,  we have reviewed  them, we are




 satisfied that when  completed  they will  meet  our  water




 quality  standards.



                In addition  to  this we  have  made physical




 inspections  of the progress and feel that as  indicated




 they  are  substantially  up  to date  if not a  little ahead




 of schedule  and that they  should finish  this  on or before




 December  1970  if  they  are  granted  this extension. This




 will  come before  the Sanitary  Water Board at  its  October




 meeting and  we will  make our last  evaluation  Just before




 the September  30   deadline, all of which is  in aceordanc




 with  the  policy of the  Sanitary Water  Board   to only  con-




 sider extensions  at  the  time the deadline is  reached  to




 see whether  in fact  the  particular applicant  for  an




 extension has  and is  diligently pursuing to the best  of



 his efforts  to get this  job done.

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               MR. STEIN:  All  right.   Now,  let  me  state




this, because I think this is a very vital  point as  we




move forward in the case.




               As far  as   the  judgment  of  Mr. Klassen and




his group in Springfield   and without  going  over these




plans  I would like to give you my  past experience,




both  with  Republic steel and Mr.  Klassen




When they said they were  going  to do something,




our experience has been in all  parts of the  country  x^ith




Republic or with Mr. Klassen ire-ire-*,  that the  contention




and the scientific claims  have  been entirely valid.   In




other words, I know and I  think I can  say this ,if




Republic wants to change  it,  I  know of no place  in  the




country in the past where  we  have dealt with what a  plant




was going to do or not going  to do  that we  ever  had  a




difference of opinion.  And I think this  will apply,  I




rnaybe will have to repeat  it  again  with United States




Steel.




               The same thing I think  on  the facts  of




the situation and dealing  for more  than a quarter of a




century with the Sanitary  Water Board  under  Mr.  Klassen.




¥e have found on the basis of past  experience that  a

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                    G. J. Gockstetter






review of plans of the Illinois Sanitary Water  Board




when they said these plans were valid and would work,




have occasioned absolutely no difference from us.  I




believe the record has borne this out.



               So what I think we are faced with here,




if we adopt standard American engineering practice and




we get these  plans put forward, as we have by Republic




and Mr. Gockstetter and the comments that we have had




by Mr. Klassen, I think in the absence of anything some




of the conferees may say, that we are fairly safe to




indicate  that these works will do what it has been said




they will do.




               When we try to narrow the issues, what




we do is we have a specific proposal with specific




plans and specifications put forth by Republic Steel




plus a willingness of Republic Steel to put in works




that are going to produce water quality of the kind




required by the Sanitary District, the State and the




Federal Government.  The sole question,  therefore, here




that presumably Mr. Klassen1s Board has to take up and




we have to take up, although this is always an open ques'




tion and we can go back to this question of whether the

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                    G-. J.  Gockstetter






plans are sufficient  or not,  is  the  date  that  it  is going




to be completed.  In  other words,  I  think the  question of




whether the work is going  to  be  done to produce these




water quality conditions,to the  best of our technical




knowledge,is under way and we are  all agreed that that



is going forward.




               Is that a fair statement?




               Of course this question of the  date is




open for the conferees' decision,  but I think  on the




facts of it are there any  further  questions of Republic?




               MR. POSTON:  Not  for me.




               MR. STEIN:  By the way--and again without




any judgment one way  or another  on the date--I think this



demonstrates what we  have  had demonstrated in  other parts



of the country is from an  engineering standpoint, from




the standpoint of coming forth with a program, every time




we have had a water pollution control case and Republic




Steel has come forth with  a program we haye found that




that program has performed as advertised  and tias done




the job.



               Thank you very much, Mr. Gockstetter.




               May we have U. S. Steel now.

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                     H. J. Dunsmore









              HERBERT J. DUNSMORE, DIRECTOR




                  ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL




             UNITED STATES STEEL CORPORATION









               MR. DUNSMORE:  Mr. Chairman.   I am Mr.




Herbert J. Dunsmore, Director of Environmental Control




for United States Steel Corporation, and have participate




in the previous sessions or other sessions of this con-




ference and welcome the opportunity again to  present




U. S. Steel's program.  I am appearing here today at the




invitation of President John Egan of the Metropolitan




Sanitary District.




               We will choose to go through the comments




that I have with the aid of slides, and so I  think with-




out taking additional time, let's turn out the lights




and start the series of slides.




               I am at a disadvantage here for seeing




the screen,, but I believe this is our outfalls 7, 8 and




9 that go into the Inner Harbor.  The one farthest away




from me or on your right would be outfall number 7,




which carries about 200 million gallons of cooling water

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                      H.  J. Dunsmore






a  day  from the powerplant and has no other contaminants




in it  other than heat.   The outfalls that are closest to




me are 8  and 9 that carry the cooling waters, number 8




from our  blast furnace  and our slag quenching operation



and number 9 from our flue dust thickener.




                Next slide, please.




                There has been some question from time




to time as to what kind  of pollution control facilities



existed at South Works  prior to 1965 and this slide  shows



that those areas marked  A, for which there are some




seventeen or twenty, I  believe,  are mill scale pits




scattered throughout the various mill areas.



                There is  another area marked B about  in




the center of the slide  which is a pit that comes  from




the mill  that provides  another place for oil skimming.




                The areas marked C are slag quenching




areas  where we had a problem back in 19&5 of popcorn




slag,   and later on I will tell you how that was cor-




rected.



                In the area marked D were clarifiers  that




have been in since 1930.



                And I believe that covers all the areas

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                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






 marked on the  slide.   But all of these were areas that




 existed prior  to March  of 19^5-




                May we have  the next slide.




                This is  a mill scale pit and a clamshell




 bucket just simply removing mill scale to give you an




 idea of what that particular operation does in prevent-




 ing solids from getting  access to  the  water.




                Next slide.




                And this  is  a little pit at  the end of




 the north slip where  we  skim oil.




                Next slide.




                This is  a closeup of the two clarifiers




 that were marked D, and  in  the background,  of course,




 is  the Inner Harbor.  These remove  flue dust  from our




 gas washing water.




                Next slide.




                This is  an oil skimmer,  a belt type oil




 skimmer,  which has  been  very effective in removing oil.




                And  since 196"5--next slide—we have placed




 some eight of  these oil  skimmers throughout the plant and




 the locations  of where  they were placed are shown on  this




 slide.   They are in the  various  mill areas  where oil  is

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                      H. J. Dunsmore





 generated.




                Next slide.




                I am going to have to guess at what that



 is from here,  but I believe that is the site location of




 our Step I  clarifiers which were put on the blast furnaces




 that used to discharge out sewer number 10.




                Next slide.




                And this shows a site location.  The




 insert up at the top is the way the ground looked before




 we started  demolition and the main picture is the demo-




 lition where we had to clear away a former mill to make




 room to put in the clarifiers.




                Next slide.




                This is the finished clarifiers that went




 into operation about December 1968.  Actually a site




 visit was made by many of you on January 15, 1969* and



 at that time they were in operation.   And you can see




 that there  is  a considerable amount of demolition and




 construction evident  in that area.




                Next slide.



                This is an excavation for a sewer that




 was  necessary  to divert the water frcftn the number 10

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                     H.  J.  Dunsmore






 sewer  down  to  these  clarifiers.   This was  a  temporary




 job  to  get  the wastes  out  of  the  Inner  Harbor  and  back




 into a  treatment  facility  about August  of  1968.




               Next  slide.




               Again about  soring of 1968  there  is  a




 little  mark at the end of  north slip in orange,  which




 we used a portion or a walled-off portion  of the north




 slip as a recycle system and  which we permitted  all the




 mill water  to  flow to  this  area and with three oil




 skimmers to skim  the oil off  recycled the  water  right




 back through the  mill.




               Next  slide.




               This  is dry  slag  pits which were




 installed.   This  happens to be on blast furnaces along




 the  south slip and this  portion of water you see is the



 Calumet River.  These  dry  slag pits replace the old




 system  that caused the popcorn slag.-




               Next  slide.




               And this  slide simply shows the location




 of the  former five slag  quenching  pits that did generate




 popcorn slags that have  now been  eliminated. There  are




 crosses  drawn through  those.

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                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






                Next  slide.




                This  is  a portion  of blast  furnace  water



 that was  diverted  out of our clarifier  and put  into



 sewer number  8  instead  of running through  the clarifier



 in  an effort  to separate cooling  water  from dirty  water



 carrying  flue dust.



                Next  slide.



                That  is  just a recap of  the several



 actions that we took which  completes  Step  I showing



 the clarifiers  down  by  the  south  slip and  the various



 other actions that I have talked  about  up  until now



 which completed the  program that  brought our discharges



 up  to the  status they were  by December  1968.



                Next  slide.



                This  is  a new construction  showing  our



 basic oxygen furnace location and our continuous caster.



 The large  circle by  the  north slip  is the  clarifier  that



 was put in  for  that  facility and  the  small dot which you



 cannot see, will show in another  slide, is the mill  scale




 pit for the caster.



                Next  slide.



                This  is  the  finished basic  oxygen furnace

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	.	188




                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






 with a clarifier.




                Next slide.




                And this  is  the continuous  caster with




 the scale pits  shown in  about the center of the photo-




 graph .



                Next slide.




                This is a portion  of our Step II program




 which is under  construction now.   Contracts were let for




 this in March  of 1969 and these green  lines show the




 various areas  of South Works  that will drain into a



 central treatment  facility.  The  three circles  are the




 three high-rate clarifiers  that will treat this water




 down to a level to meet  the effluent requirements for




 the mill water.




                Next slide.




                This is a construction  shot again down,




 oh, by the clarifiers that  were put in in  1968, but this




 is  the site location of  where the three clarifiers will




 be  for the central treatment  facility.




                Next slide.




                This shows a portion of construction




 work putting in a  pump base or a  pit to conduct the

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	189



                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






 water  to  the  central treatment facility.



                Next slide.




                This is  the  recycle system that  will  go



 into the  blast  furnace  area.   The  green lines will con-



 duct the  wastes from the blast furnace  up to the  clarifie



 and then  they will  go through  a cooling tower which  is



 on the immediate right  of the  clarifiers  and circulated



 back through  the blast  furnaces.



                Next slide.



                This shows the  construction of the cooling



 tower  as  it was about a week ago.   The  foundation is well



 under  way.



                Next slide.



                This is  a recap of  Step  II showing both



 blast  furnace recycle system and the  central treatment




 facility.



                Next slide.



                Just some additional construction  pictures




 that were  taken about a week ago showing  some of  the



 difficulty in getting sewer lines  and constructing in




 a rather  crowded plant  site.



                Next slide.
rs

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                     H.  J.  Dunsmore






                This was  again  taken  about  a  week  ago,




 shows  the  Inner Harbor at  the  area that  used to be




 outfall  number  10.  Mr.  Bacon  referred to  it this morning




 as  having  been  diverted  and this  is  a photograph  to  show




 that  it  no longer drains into  the Inner  Harbor.




                Next slide.



                Another kind of a  fly-over  recap,  again




 taken  about a week ago showing the old clarifiers, but




 more  importantly showing the Inner Harbor  out  beyond




 the clarifiers  where outfalls  numbers 8  and  9  discharge




 as  well  as outfall number  7.




                Next slide.




                This is just another  overall  shot  taken




 about  a  week ago showing the general condition of, again,




 clarifiers and  outfalls 7,  8 and  9*  which  are  the only



 outfalls into the Inner Harbor.




                I think that concludes the  end  of  the



 slides.




                I think that in closing I would like  to




 give you kind of a summary  of  what this  means.  There is




 a task force of  contractor   employees that  range between




 four and five hundred people.  The question has been

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                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






 raised  as  to  how  much time  do they work.    We work a




 forty-hour week and there  is  a good reason for it, a




 reason  that we  don't like,  but a fact of  life.




                This kind of work substantially uses  pipe-




 fitters  and ironworkers, for  which many other people,




 fortunately or  unfortunately, in the Chicago  area  have




 need, and  you couldn't work more than a forty-hour week




 or  a  two-shift  or a three-shift day if you wanted  to.




 ¥e  can't get  enough pipefitters and ironworkers  now  to




 man the  job to  the level that we would like to have  it




 manned.




                Now, to speed  up this contract we let what




 is  called  in  the  trade a turnkey contract, and I suppose




 that  in  a  certain sense  it  is like piecework.   It  is to




 the contractor's  advantage  to get the job  done just  as




 fast  as  he can  get it done, and for us, we are interested




 in  having  it  done as fast as  it can be done.



                There are some 11,280 feet  of  pipe  that




 have  to  be laid to complete this job and  they range  in




 size  from  1-1/2 feet to  6 feet in diameter.   They  will




 be  poured  over  5,600 cubic  yards of concrete.   It  will




 require  enough  horsepower when installed  to pull a 120-ca

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                     H. J. Dunsmore






freight train.




               This concludes my remarks  and  thank you




very much.




               (The statement in its entirety, including




the aforementioned photographs, follows.)

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                                                       192A
      Water Conservation Progress of
     United States Steel Corporation's
                South Works
        A Report to the Conference
Reconvened by the Secretary of the Interior
In The Matter of Pollution of Lake Michigan
   The Calumet River and Related Rivers
            Chicago, Illinois

              August 26, 1969
                    By

            Herbert J. Dunsmore

      Director Environmental Control

      United States Steel Corporation

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                                                                                192B
                                            -  1  -
Slide 1
aerial of
South Works
Slide 2
Nos. 7, 8
and 9 outfalls
showing clear
effluent
          I am Herbert J.  Dunsmore,  Director of Environmental

Control, United States Steel Corporation.   As a participant in

prior Conference sessions, I welcome this  opportunity,  provided

by the Conference in the matter of Pollution of Lake Michigan,

the Calumet River and Related Waters,  to report water conservation

progress at U. S. Steel's  South Works,  in  the 54 months since

this Conference was first  convened.   I  am  appearing today at

the invitation of the Conferee John  E.  Egan, President  of the

Metropolitan Sanitary District of  Greater  Chicago.


          This is an aerial view of  South  Works, located on the

south shore of Lake Michigan.   Iron  ore for South Works'  blast

furnaces is delivered by ore carriers  like the one  shown in the

South Slip at the Calumet  River, lower  right in the photo.


          About half of the water  required by South Works is used

for cooling and returns to the Lake  with its quality unchanged,

except for the addition of some heat.


          This photo shows Nos. 7, 8 and 9 outfalls.  No. 7, the

largest in the plant, discharges an  average of 200  million gallons

of power plant condenser water a day.   This water is  used only

for cooling.

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                                                                                 192C
                                            - 2 -
Slide 3
aerial
outlining
Mar., '65
water
treatment
Slide 4
34" Mill
scale pit
photo
 Slide 5
 aerial
 outlining
 Mar.,  '65
 water treat.

 Slide 6
 photo of sump

 Slide 7
 aerial
 outlining
 Mar.,  '65-
 water treat.

 Slide 8
 slag screens
 photo
          The rest of the water South Works uses to wash blast

furnace gas, quench blast furnace slag, cool rolls, transport

scale and in other steeltnaking processes.


          These were the main components of South Works' water

conservation system, 4-1/2 years ago, when the Conference in the

matter of Pollution of Lake Michigan, the Calumet River and

related waters was first convened in Chicago.


          Twenty-seven scale pits whose function is to capture

scale generated on the eight rolling mills occupy the locations

marked "A"  in the photo-


          Here a grab bucket unloads one of eight components of

the 220-foot long scale pit, serving the 34" structural mill.

Scale removed from the hot steel as it passes through the rolls

and waste oils are conveyed by water flume to the pits where the

slag settles and oils are skimmed from the surface.


          Location "B"  in the aerial view is the sump adjacent to

the North Slip where additional oil is removed.  Retaining the

water here  allows the floating baffle to trap waste oils that

escape the  pits.


          Popcorn slag was a major  pollution problem in 1965.  As

molten slag from the blast furnaces was quenched in water-filled

pits, a small part of the slag granules floated, and they were

trapped by  rotary screens marked  "C" on the aerial map.  The

abrasion of these sharp-edged particles caused  a very difficult

screer, maintenance problem.

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                                            - 3 -
Slid'- 'J
a t r i a 1
outlining
Mar.,  '65
water treat.

Slide 10
clarifier
photo
Slide 11
belt skimmer
photo

Slide 12
aerial with
oil skimmers
outlined
Slide 13
aerial outlining
new clarifiers

Slide 14
photo of razing
blooming mill
          The !:lue dust of five blast furnaces was captured in the

two 160-foot clarifiers marked "D" on the map, and by 1965,

increased iron production had outstripped their dust-collecting

capacity.


          At that time, plans were already underway to bring water

conservation systems at South abreast of production advances.  We

found ourselves in the position of a growing family still living

in an eld house, with leaky pipes and radiators, while they are

building a new home across the street with modern plumbing and

heating systems.


          Meanwhile, until the new house is finished, chey are

installing new elbows, pumps and valves to keep the old system

working with aw little offense to their neighbors as possible.


          Oil recovery improvements initiated Step I of South

Works' water pollution control orogram.  This traveling belt oil

skimmer and seven more like it, installed at locations marked "E",

greatly improved waste oil recovery.  A skimmer boat was also

installed in t'-ie harbor to remove surplus oil.


          To make room for additional clarifiers located at

the area marked "J" on the aerial photo, this 40-inch blooming

mill was demolished.

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                                            - 4 -
                              Placed in operation in December,  1968,  these 110-foot
Slide 15
photo of finished
clarifiers          diameter clarifiers can clean 720,000 gallons of gas washer water
Slide 16
sewer pipe
installation
photo
Slide 17
dry slag
pit photo
Slide 18
aerial with
No.  5 sump
recirculation
system outlined
                    per hour from blast furnaces 1, 2, 4, and E bordering the South

                    Slip.  With their coming "on stream", the blast furnace gas

                    cleaning water at South Works was significantly improved.


                              An interim step, in April, 1968, the No. 10 sewer line

                    discharge to the inner harbor was stopped by diverting its flow-

                    A sump was built to settle out scale and a pump installed to

                    divert this flow to the Calumet River and the South Slip.  Here

                    you see the installation of 220 feet of 36-inch sewer line which

                    was necessary to achieve this diversion.


                              The popcorn slag problem ended in this blast furnace

                    area with the installation of dry slag processing on 2 and E

                    furnaces in November, 1967, and April, 1968, and the blowing out

                    of No. 4 blast  furnace in April,  1968, and No. 1 blast furnace in

                    July of that year.  Both returned to operation using the dry slag

                    cooling process.  This view of the Calumet River shows tha new

                    dry slag processing beds of furnaces 4 and E.


                              Recycling and diversion further enhanced effluent

                    quality at outrTalls 2, 3, 5, 8 and 9-


                              The quality of the water discharged into the North Slip

                    in No. 2 and No. 3 outfalls, was  greatly  improved by diverting  the

                    effluent from che 96-inch wide plate mill scale pits to  No. 5

                    diversion sump  where it is now discharged into a recirculation

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                                            -  5  -
Slide 19
showing slag
quenchers
crossed out on
aerial photo
Slide 20
aerial
outlining
cooling water
diversion
basin.  The twin outfalls now discharge essentially cooling water

from the open hearths, intermittent discharge of vacuum degasser

ejector condenser water, basic oxygen furnace shop gas cooling

water and power station condenser cooling water.  These changes

were effected in 1968.


          No. 8 outfall in the inner harbor formerly handled slag

quencher water from No. 11 and No. 12 blast furnaces.  The quality

of this discharge was greatly enhanced by improving the rotary

screens at No. 11 and No. 12 blast furnaces and converting No. 10

and No. 6 blast, furnaces to the air-cooled slag process.  Taking

No. 5 and No. fc blast furnaces out of service in 1968 endc'.d their

granulated slag problem.  The new No. 8 slast furnace will also

use the air-codec slag process.  The conversion of No. 11 and 12

furnaces to drj slag processing, scheduled for July, 1970, will

completely eliminate the popcorn slag problem.


          Several changes have improved the quality of blast

furnace clarif:.er effluent discharged in No. 9 outfall.  In

December, 1967. 5;000 gallons of cooling water per minute were

diverted from the clarifiers to allow for improved treatment of

gas cleaning Wf.ter.  The use of a polyelectrolytic was begun to

improve the settling capacity of the clarifiers and the

installation of these new lift pumps, further improved clarifier

efficiency.

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                                            - 6 -
Slide 21
aerial with
Step I
outlined
Slide 22
aerial outlining
BOP shop, gas
cleaning system
and continuous
caster scale
pit

Slide 23
BOP shop, gas
cleaning system
photo
Slide 24
aerial showing
central system
outline
          Now the aerial photo shows two stages of development:

The installations that made up South Works' conservation system

in March, 1965, are colored yellow.  The new systems installed

and in operation by December, 1968, are marked in red.


          Step I of South Works' Water Pollution Control Program

was completed in December, 1968.


          With construction underway on so many conservation

systems., it is impossible in a single presentation, to do justice

to all of them.  Two major projects not directly related to either

Step I or Step 2, have vital significance, in my opinion, to this

Conference.  They are the BOP Shop gas cleaning system and the

continuous easier scale pit.


          The  sophisticated cleaning system in the new basic

oxygen steelmaking shop embraces a complex of spray chambers,

scrubbers, centrifuges and cooling towers that occupy almost as

much space as  ::he production facility they serve.  This wet

   A"^
scrubber cleanup system, representing the most efficient

application of modern control technology, went on stream with

this new steel.-naking facility in January of this year.


          Step II of South Works' Water Pollution Control Program

is now well into the construction phase.  One of its main

components is  this Central treatment plant which will provide

additional treatment for process water used in the Electric

Furnac3  Shop vacuum degasser, the Open Hearth Vacuum deg; sser,

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                                                                                 192H
                                            -  7  -
Slide 25
central treat-
ment constr.
Slide 26
sewer pipe
installation
Slide 27
recycling
system outline

Slide 28
photo:
construction of
recycling
system

Slide 29
second
recycling photo
Slide 30
full outline
of wat;er
conservation
system
the Open Hearth slag quencher, and cooling and flushing water from

all eight rolling mills.  Step II installations are marked in

green.


          The system will be composed of three 125-foot diameter

sludge recycle clarifiers shown here under construction.  The

other components of the system, a 65-foot thickener, now In the

foundation stage, and two rotary drum type filters will also be

erected on this site.  This 72-inch pipe will conduct the

clarified water from the clarifiers to the South Slip.


          The second major component of Step II is a complete

recycling system for the gas cleaning water used in Blast Furnaces

8, 10, 11 and '.2.  The cooling tower is now under construction and

will be located at left on the photo.  Note that the installations

shown «t right are the existing clarifiers, incorporated in the

new system.  When this recycling system goes "on stream" the

discharges of gas cleaning water from the North Slip blast

furnacp.s will be eliminated.


          Thesa new systems will be placed into operation as they

are completed, and the entire complex should be "on stream" by

December 31, 1970, in accordance with the Metropolitan  Sanitary

District of Chicago Timetable.  On that date, South Works will

have one of the most efficient water conservation systems in the

industry.

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                                                                                 1921
                                            - 8 -
Slide 31
continuous caster
and scale pit
photo
(to come)
Slide 32
photo of
workers on
job
 Slide 33
 (to come)
          The new continuous caster, now under construction,

illustrates how process change can reduce pollution.  By

eliminating the primary mill, the continuous caster substantially

reduces the formation of scale, and, consequently, improves scale

recovery efficiency.  The cleared effluent from the scale pit is

repumped to the plant water system for reuse.


          The management of South Works provided some interesting

figures which may help us grasp the full dimensions of this

control program.


          A task force of contractor employees is now well along

in the construction of the big water conservation projects at

South Works.  When they have completed their job, they will have

laid 11,280 feet of pipe, ranging in diameters from 1% to 6 feet

and an equal amount of smaller pipe.  They will have poured 5,600

cubic yards of  concrete, enough to construct the basements of 120

two-bedroom houses, and the pumps they will have installed will

require enough  horsepower to pull a 120-car freight train.


          This  photo  shows the harbor as it appears today.

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UNITED   STATES   STEEL   CORPORATION
208 SOUTH LA  SALLE STREET  •  CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690  •  CENTRAL 6-9200

                                                   August 26, 1969
        This aerial photo of No. 7, 8 and 9 outfalls at South Works
   shows condition of water leaving the plant and returning to Lake
   Michigan.  Public beaches are open for swimming within a few
   blocks of this site.
 PLEASE CREDIT
 U. S. STEEL PHOTO

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UNITED   STATES   STEEL  CORPORATION
208 SOUTH LA SALLE STREET  », CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690  •  CENTRAL 6-9200


                                                  August 26, 1969
       The recycling system for gas cleaning water used in blast
  furnaces at South Works  as seen from the air.   The cooling tower
  is now under construction.
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UNITED   STATES  STEEL   CORPORATION
208 SOUTH LA SALLE STREET  •  CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690 •  CENTRAL 6-9200


                                                August 26,  1969
      View  of Calumet River with U. S. Steel's South Works on
 right,
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 U. S. STEEL PHOTO

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 UNITED   STATES   STEEL   CORPORATION
208 SOUTH LA  SALLE STREET  •  CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690 • CENTRAL 6-9200


                                                     August 26,  1969

     Clarifiers for blast furnaces  1, 2, h and E at South Works
 seen, from the air.   Placed in operation in 1968, these 110-
 foot diameter clarifiers can clean 720,000 gallons of gas  washer
 water per hour from the four blast furnaces bordering the South
 Works slip.
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 UNITED   STATES   STEEL   CORPORATION
208 SOUTH LA  SALLE STREET  •  CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690  • CENTRAL 6-9200


                                                  August 26, 1969
     Aerial closeup of BOP shop gas cleaning facilities at U. S.
 Steel's  South Works in Chicago.   The sophisticated cleaning
 system in the new basic oxygen shop embraces a complex of spray
 chambers, scrubbers, centrifuges and cooling towers.
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 UNITED  STATES   STEEL   CORPORATION
208 SOUTH  LA  SALLE STREET  •  CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60690  •  CENTRAL 6-9200


                                                   August 26,  1969
        Harbor at U. S. Steel's South Works.  The plant has made
   major progress in combating water pollution through installation
   of most  modern cleaning devices.
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                MR. STEIN:  Wait a minute,  Mr.  Dunsmore.




                Do  we have any questions or comments?




                MR. POSTON:   I would like to ask,  are



 your  plans  and specs completed for all of this work,



 detailed working plans?




                MR. DUNSMORE:  You are never quite com-



 pleted until the contractor is through with the job,



 but let's put it this way:




                The plans and specifications,  the  engi-



 neering on  the job is ahead of the contractor  and has




 been  and will continue to be, I might say.




                MR. POSTON:   Would these plans  be  avail-




 able  to the Technical Committee if they desire to see




 them  in connection with their work assigned by this




 conference?



                MR. DUNSMORE:  The answer is yes,  but




 there are general  arrangement drawings now available.




 I  thought your question implied detailed construction




 drawings and they  are not all available now even  to us.




 The engineers are  still drawing on them.

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               But the general arrangement drawings are




certainly done and this is what the contract is bid on.



               MR. POSTON:  How much of your work would




you say has been completed at this time?  Percentagewise,




maybe?



               MR. DUNSMORE:  I understand the question,




and I don't know that I have a better answer than this.




               We started to work in March of 1969 and it




is scheduled for completion by December 1970, and I am



satisfied that at least we are up to schedule or ahead




of schedule.  I am sure we are not far ahead of schedule




because of the shortage of labor that I mentioned.




               MR. POSTON: Relative to this shortage of




labor, I have always felt that this has something to do




with adding an additional shift and the matter of some




overtime, and my conversations with contractors have led




me to believe that if there is some overtime involved you



can get practically anything done.  (Laughter.)




               MR. DUNSMORE:  Well, of course, construc-



tion is not my specialty,  but 1 have been told by people




in our corporation that do know that the competition for




pipefitters and ironworkers in the Chicago area is very

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keen.





                MR.  POSTON:  Well,  I brought this  out



because we have been  involved  in  recent  days with labor




wondering where they  could  fit in and  where they would




be able to get  their  people hired.   I  am not sure that




they are the same  categories,  but I  know they  are quite




adamant in their desires  to get an equal employment



opportunity.




                MR.  STEIN: Well, Mr.  Poston, you  have



just given me an idea.   You know, I  have needed  a lot




of work from the Chicago  area.  I am going to  suggest




that you work your  people overtime.  (Laughter.)




                MR.  POSTON:   I  opened my  mouth  all right.




                MR.  KLASSEN:  Occasionally I agree with




you, Mr. Chairman.  (Laughter.)



                MR.  STEIN:   Well,  let me  try to get back tc




some basic questions  here,  and  this  will be the  same thin,




that we asked about Republic,  essentially.



                One, you  say you have a system  and you are




on stream by December 31, 1970, in accordance  with the




Metropolitan Sanitary District  of Chicago timetable.  Wha




is that timetable based  on?  As I understood Republic,

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their timetable was based on approval by the Illinois




Sanitary Water Board.



               Is yours the same way or do you have an




agreement with them independently of that or do you have




the approval of Illinois?



               MR. DUNSMORE:  Well, as Mr. Bacon reported




this morning, we have a summary of work schedule, he call




it a Critical Path Method, of determining the length of




time of construction and this was first submitted in




September of 1968 and has gone through, I believe, five




revisions. The last one was submitted to him on June 6th




of 1969 j which does meet his and his staff's approval as



to the length of time it will take.  And I believe he




said that he had transmitted those work schedules to the




State, and at least for the record let's say they are




available, and also the scheme of what it is we propose



to do is available.




               MR. STEIN:  Yes.  Well, here again as I




understand it, the same rules presumably apply to you as




apply to Republic Steel and these rules are, as far as




the approval of the plans, whether they are going to do




the job or the date  to meet SWB-15 and the water quality

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standards have to  be approved  by the State  agency.   This



is correct, isn't  it?




               MR. DUNSMORE:   Yes.




               MR. STEIN:   Now,  in other  words,  you  don't



stand in a different position  in having your  plans approve



by Illinois as yet, do you?  Or  do you?




               MR. DUNSMORE:   I  don't know  as  I  understand



exactly the question.                                     |




               MR. STEIN:   The point is we  do  know on the



basis of the previous statements  that the Illinois State



agency had reviewed Republic's plans and  specifications.



They are reasonably satisfied  that Republic's  plans  and




specs would do the job. At  their  next meeting  or the



meeting in October they  were going to take  up  the question




of date.



               Where do  you stand in relation  to that?




Are you in the same position or  a little  different one?



               MR. DUNSMORE:   We  are in a little different




position, and I thought  Mr. Bacon made that clear--that




he was negotiating with  U.  S.  Steel  regarding  the length



of time and we were changing our  Critical Path Method up




until June 6, 1969, and  it  took his  staff a while to revieto

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 this  last  draft  and  come to an  agreement  on  it.   And I




 presume, and  I believe it may have been stated  by Mr.




 Bacon,  that  the  next step then,  of course, is to  take



 it  to the  Illinois Sanitary Water Board,  but he  chose




 not to  do  that until first his  staff had  been satisfied




 that  they  had got an acceptable  plan.




               MR. STEIN:  Let me refer back to your




 statement, then.



               "These new systems will be placed  into



 operation  as they are completed, and the  entire complex



 should  be  'on stream1 by December 31, 1970,  in accordance



 with  the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago time-



 table.  On that  date, South Works will have one of the



 most  efficient water conservation systems in the  industry



               That  is on the bottom of page 7, Mr.



 Dunsmore.




               At least the implication to me by  reading



 that  is Chicago  does not have any questions any more and




 is  shooting that on  to Illinois.  Is this true?   Or  does



 the Sanitary District still have questions before they



 get that to Illinois?




               And I want to not lead up  to a question in

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a conference  operation,  because  if we  are going to put
the burden  on Mr.  Klassen  on  making  a  Judgment on the
September 30    date  and  he  i s a month away  and we are
not up  to the point  of sending those things  forward to hi|m.
I think it  would  be  unfair  to look to  the State agency
to make a real rapid judgment possibly on plans unless
he has  some prior knowledge of this.   Again  I wanted to
review  the  whole  line of the  questioning.  Mr. Klassen
had indicated that he had  seen the Republic  plans before.
                Mr. Klassen?
                MR. KLASSEN:   If  it is  time to put a
statement in  the  record  on  that,  I will be glad to do
so.
                We  received  an informational  copy of
revision number 5  and a  draft of  an unsigned stipulation
I am reading  now — currently the  subject of negotiations
between the Sanitary District and United States Steel
Corporation.   I received this from Mr.  Egan  at 6:32 p.m.
last night  in my  hotel.
                And I want  to  say  for purposes of the
.record, the Illinois Sanitary Water Board deadline for
U. S. Steel,  as well as  the other industries on the

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 Calumet River,  is  September 30,  1969*  and as of "today



 we have not received a request for an  extension of that




 deadline for U.  S.  Steel and we  are proceeding on the




 assumption that  the enforcement  action is the responsi-




 bility and under the jurisdiction  of the  State of



 Illinois and we  will proceed with  enforcement action




 against U. S.  Steel on that basis  unless  the Secretary




 of the Interior  prior to that date makes  a decision to




 assume that jurisdiction.




                Does that answer  your question?




                (Applause.)




                MR.  STEIN:   You have answered the  ques-




 tion.  I think  we are going  to have to  take up that




 question of jurisdiction.




                But  as I  see this issue here^-and  I




 don't  want to  speak for  the State—but in making  a




 judgment on the  equities of this situation on what the




 Federal Government    responsibility in 'this  is, if we




 have to recognize the primary rights and  responsibilities




 of  the  States, and  we have  done  that and  encouraged that




 in  every case  that  I know>  if we are coming to  the end




 of  September and if we know in working closely with the

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 State  agency that there is one more month to go on this




 operation  and if the facts are as they have been stated,




 that  the  Illinois State agency does not have a request




 for an extension or papers before it on which to make a




 judgment  on that request and time is ticking every day,




 what  judgment, I think, can we have when September 30



 rolls  around?




                MR. KLASSEN:  To put it a little more




 bluntly,  Mr. Chairman, the Illinois Sanitary Water Board




 is  and will proceed with the enforcement of that Septem-




 ber 30,  1969, deadline unless the Federal Government




 stops  us.



                MR. STEIN:   Well,  I don't think we are




 going to  stop you.



                MR. KLASSEN:  Or join us.



                MR. STEIN:   And we may join.



                Let me tell you this, by September 30,




 1969,  as  well, and I make  no prejudgment on what Mr.




 Klein or  Mr. Hickel arc- going to  do, but under the law,




 unless the situation is changed by September 30, 1969,




 and there  is a judgment that a discharge from U. S.




 Steel is  in violation'of the standards, we can &erre you

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with 180-day notice and if that violation is not stopped




we can take the case to court  after  the  180 days.



               Now, that is our law.  And our past




experience, I might say, is that we are not going to  comp




 with  or battle the State of Illinois,  because I don't




think Illinois is the discharger nor is the Federal



Government.  If I have anything to do with it, we are




going to cooperate with them.



               Now, I would like to work a way out of




this, because as far as I can see here, Mr. Dunsmore,




you fully intend and you are moving diligently toward




a cleanup.  Isn't there some way we can get this




reasonably on the track so we can proceed in an entirely




amicable way toward a decision?   Because I don't believe




that court action is going to get this done any faster




if we can work out something that is going to be mutually



satisfactory other than court action.




               MR. DUNSMORE:   Well, Mr. Stein,  I would




like to refer you to the minutes of your  last meeting.




We believe that it is on the track and has been on the




track all along.   Your record shows,  and  I have portions




of ^fche transcript with me,  that the jurisdiction of this
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conference as it related to water quality standards


established in Lake Michigan as it related to U. S.


Steel's South Works was in fact met in December 1968.


Now we are continuing with step II, we have called it


Step II, to meet a higher standard, and certainly that


recycle system you saw goes beyond any standard that


anybody has come up with, because there will be no dis-


charge.  And so I don't think we are either at cross


purpose or off schedule.


               MR. STEIN:  You have raised some points,


and since we got back I would like to clarify this since


we have all the parties here.


               First as you know, Mr. Dunsmore, I did


not say we would go to a hearing for the second phase of


SWB-15.  If that is a violation, it is a violation of


the standard proposed by Illinois and adopted by the Sec •


retary of the Interior.  In other words, in the enforce-


ment of water quality standards, we don't go through this


procedure of conference, hearing, and court action, just


a prior 180-day notice, and if necessary we then go to
court on that day.  That is why I said that.
               But the next point, and I would like Mr.


Poston to pay particular attention because I don't want

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to leave here again and get conflicting reports on this,



are we all agreed that United States Steel is in con-




formity with the recommendations of the conference?  Is




that your understanding, Mr. Poston?



               MR. POSTON:  That is not my understanding.




               MR. STEIN:  Why?



               MR. POSTON:  I never admitted and never



said that I thought U. S.  Steel was in conformance,



because I see oil in the Calumet Harbor, I see the wastes



I even see in Mr. Bacon's  report today that U. S.  Steel



South Works is putting—and I could read these figures



right here off of his report—United States Steel  Com-



pany South Works, pounds per day,  the first 6 months



of the year at Calumet Harbor for 1968 was 104,000 pounds



of suspended solids, 37 pounds  of phenols, 657 pounds of



cyanide,  41,862 of hexane  soluble,  1,000 pounds of ammonia



nitrogen, and they have reduced that from the 1968 figure



in part of the cases, not  in phenols,- that has actually



increased and so has the ammonia increased, and I  don't



regard them as in compliance.




               MR. STEIN:   Do you have any comment on



that?   Because I went away the  last time, Mr. Dunsmore,

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having the same impression that you had, and then when I




got back I began to get all this contrary information--




that the feeling, at least from the Federal conferee,




was that it was not believed that you were in compliance.




               I think we have two points.  And by the



way, this may be the subsidiary point.  We may cut



through both these points.  Let me raise the points and



you take them as you wish.




               One, if we can put this in proper posture



I think the next step, we all agree, is that the Illinois



Sanitary Water Board has to review the plans and specs



and act both on the plans and specifications of the pro-



gram and a possible date extension.  If we could get




this program in that posture when if it is cleared by



the Sanitary District up to Illinois, I think we will




proceed with the next orderly step.



               Now, how can we do that?  If we do that,




this may solve that other question.  I am not sure it



will.  But let me put it this way:  If you complete the



work that you have described here, I think you are going




to meet all requirements.



               MR. DUWSMORE:  Yes, there is no question

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about it.



               MR. STEIN:  No question on that.  Now,




the question is now can we get this on the track so that




the next agency which should have this now, Illinois,  get




that and can act on that in an orderly manner?




               MR. DUNSMORE:  Well, I will have to give




you my judgment on it, but I think that any person, or




any industry in this case, has to look to his responsible




control agency for this kind of a decision and that in




this case, we believe, is the Metropolitan Sanitary




District.  We have consistently met with them and been




in close agreement, they knowing what we were planning




to do and they had passed judgment on what we planned




to do, and at your last meeting, and you will find it on




page 599 of your transcript, Dr. Jerry Stein, who was




then an employee of the Metropolitan Sanitary District,




did state that in his judgment and from the facts that




he had that U. S. Steel South Works was in compliance.




               Since that time we have submitted addi-



tional plans to the same control agency and after




extensive engineering review have reached agreement on




Step II,  and when they are completed we believe that

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this will meet any  effluent  standards that are now on



the books and certainly in the recycle system any that



you could conceive  of  in  the future.




               MR.  STEIN:  All right.  Let me try again



If there is—and I  think  Mr. Bacon isn't here any more,



is he?




               MR.  EGAN:  Yes, he is.




               MR.  STEIN:  Oh, he is?  Well, Mr. Bacon,



I think--at least I thought  I followed hi.-n very thoroughly




this morning—said  the reason that plans had not gone



forward was that he was in the process of negotiation,



and well I know that,  being  in this business a long time,



and there may have  been five different sets of plans thai



went back and forth for a tightening up and establishment




of an agreed-upon operation.



               Let  me  ask a  question. Do I understand




it at the present time that  you, that is U. S. Steel,




and the Sanitary District are in agreement on these




plans in the form that those plans can be submitted to




Illinois?



               MR.  DUNSMORE:  Can be?




               MR.  STEIN:  Yes.

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                      H.  J.  Dunsmore






                MR.  DUNSMORE:   Yes.




                MR.  STEIN:   Now,  the  question then is,




 as  I again  understand it,  Mr.  Klassen  has  not formally




 received  these  plans  or  requests  for an extension from




 the  September  1969  deadline.   Is  that  correct?




                MR.  DUNSMORE:   Well,  I  wouldn't  have a




 way of knowing  it,  but--




                MR.  KLASSEN:   That is correct.




                MR.  STEIN:   Is  it?  All right.   There-




 fore,  unless  someone  can state this  differently,  it




 seems  to  me that  if this is  the  next step  in the




 procedure;  if we  are  working  on  this I think we all




 agree, local, State,  and as  the  Congress  intended,




 Federal,  you  have come to  an  agreement with  the local




 agency first.   I  would encourage  in  every  way and




 I am sure U.  S. Steel from its past  performance would




 encourage the State to take  action rather  than  the




 Federal action.




                Now,  the  point  is,  I  think,  if we  are




 going  to  come up  with a  judgment  on  this,  1),  we  have




 to  determine when these  plans  and a  request  is  going




 to  come to  Illinois;  and 2),  if  we can at  this  date

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reasonably expect  Illinois in its orderly  process to




be able to come up with a considered judgment by Septem-




ber 30   when they have a date running out.




               MR. KLASSEN:  Do you want an answer to



that?




               Well, we will come up with  a considered




judgment if we have anything to judge.  But lacking that




we have no other alternative than to request our Attorney




General to enforce the September 30, 1969, deadline.




That is where it stands with us.




               MR. STEIN:  Now again let me direct this




question if I may, if you don't mind, to the District.




               One, will the plans and will the request




for the extension, as it has been with Republic, be made




in the case of U.  S. Steel to the State of Illinois?




               Mr. Bacon?




               MR. BACON:  This was by telephone reported




to the State Sanitary Water Board immediately following




the Board of Trustees  action.  Then it was followed up




by an informal--!  say informal; we didn't  put it before




them real formally yes or no on September  30    for the




simple reason that within the Board of Trustees they

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were  still trying to work out a solution within  the




judiciary committee and the Board of Trustees so they




could take the action first if possible.  By that I mean




that  the Board of Trustees could firm up yes or  no as




to how  they stood on this extension. This is the reason




we kept it in the informal category with the State Sani-




tary Water Board.  Well before the September 30,  1969*




deadline we can put it formally and officially in front



of the State Sanitary Water Board.  We have been trying




to get an action within our own group that would make




it simpler for the State Sanitary Water Board to  then




act.




               I don't know if I am coining through to




you loud and clear.




               MR. STEIN:   You surely are.




               MR. BACON:  What I am trying to say is we




are trying to solve this decisively within the District.




Failing that we will have  it before the State Sanitary




Water Board well in advance of September 30, 1969,




officially.   What Mr.  Klassen has  said is absolutely




accurate^-they have been informational; they have been




somewhat informal simply to keep him advised* and the

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fact that he can't make a decision today and give you a




yes or no rests basically yet with us.




               MR. STEIN:  I well understand that



because--





               MR . BACON:  But we are not going to miss




that September 30, 1969, deadline.




               MR. STEIN:  This is what I want to




make clear on this question of the time fuse.  When




it comes to September  30, 1969, Mr. Klassen has




indicated that his date has run out,, and it is a




Federal standard  and our date has run out.




               This Is  the point I want to make.




Any agency — and I would say this for yours as well




as Mr. Klassen's--if you are going to get a request




for an extension  you have to- have it in advance in




a reasonable time.  If  you have foreknowledge of




this, that we are going to have a proposal for




a 1970 date within a reasonable time prior to Sep-




tember 30, 1969,  any agency, including Mr. Klassen's




can make a considered  Judgment.   They can't

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 have  it at the  eleventh  hour  and  we can't  make a .judgment




 on the  State's  action unless  they have  a sufficient time




 in which to carry  out their own  program.



                This  is a pretty  complicated  proposal and




 presumably Mr.  Klassen and  the staff  have  to review it




 and consider it.




                MR. BACON:   This  is  why  we  gave informal




 telephone notice,  then formal notice  otherwise,  so  that




 he could be getting  prepared.  I  think,  Mr.  Stein,  some




 of it revolves  around the conference  as  of today,  too,




 as to what comes out of  this  in action.




                I think I  can  speak  the  sentiments  of




 the Board,  although  you  have  a conferee  up there,  I




 think I am speaking  for  the whole  Board  when I am  saying




 that  they are extremely  reluctant  to  grant any extension




 of time to anybody.   They have made this abundantly




 clear.  Although on the other hand,  certainly we  have to




 face  realities  that  maybe certain  thin'gs can or  cannot b«




 gotten,  and so  they  have  been reluctant  to even  state




 to the  State  Sanitary Water Board,  "We  wholeheartedly



 recommend  this."




                I think they look  to this conference

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                     H. J, Dunsmore






somewhat to get its feelings  too, because let's not




overlook the fact that we have three basic agencies con-




fronting this problem and I think we want the sentiments




of this group too.  And when  I say "we" I am speaking




for the Sanitary District and the Board of Trustees.




               MR. STEIN:  I  think^-as a matter of fact



I am sure, I understand you very well.  But what is con-



fusing the operation is this, again, when it says:



               "These new systems will be placed into




operation as they are completed by December 31> 1970,



in accordance with the Metropolitan Sanitary District




of Chicago timetable."



               And I am reading from the U. S. Steel




statement.



               Now, with the  report or with your state-




ment, Mr. Bacon, of the reluctance of the Board, which



was my understanding, it is surely not in accordance



with the Sanitary District timetable, because you haven't




decided to ask for that extension yet.



               MR. BACON:  Well, I remind you we have




until September 30, 1969, and we have plenty of time to




work with our colleague State agency to get this done.

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I am simply saying I don't think that we are going to




squeeze the State Sanitary Water Board and I don't think




we are going to be squeezed in the Sanitary District




either.  We are all well aware of the time available to




make these decisions.



               I go back to the point I just made, we




thought and we are looking for some guidance from this




group right here, because this group here reflects the



entire area, Indiana, Illinois, Federal agencies, and




so forth, as to what is being done on a timetable.  So




if you are worried about a relationship between the




Illinois State Sanitary Water Board and the Sanitary




District, I think we will have our timetables in order.




               MR, STEIN:  No, I am not worried about



that in the last question.  We are trying to get this




from the Board. The point is that the recommendation--




and, of course, we have to get this from the conferees--




that a December 31,  1970, date for U. S,  Steel is not




necessarily now in accordance with the Metropolitan




Sanitary District of Chicago timetable, is it?




               MR. BACON:  Our timetable is September 30



1969.

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              B. A. Poole




      MR. STEIN:  Thank you.



      Are there any further comments or ques-






      Mr. Dunsmore, do you want to say any






      MR. DUNSMORE:  No.


      MR. STEIN: All right.  Thank you very much


      Any other comments from the Board?


      May we call on Mr. Poole from Indiana.


      Mr. Poole.






BLUCHER A. POOLE, TECHNICAL SECRETARY


INDIANA STREAM POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD


        INDIANAPOLIS,  INDIANA
               MR.  POOLE:   Mr.  Chairman,  at  the December


1968 meeting we had five  industries  that  were  incomplete,


and I have covered  these  in the  attached  brief report


which is being passed  out to you.


               Adolph  Plating Company  of  East  Chicago.


You recall we had ordered Adolph Plating  Company  to
   j

install the necessary  works  and  they had  objected to

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our order and we referred it to the Attorney General.




Judge Felix Kaul on April 23, 19&9, ordered the industry




to obtain materials and equipment for installation of




treatment facilities by September 30, 1969* and complete




construction of the waste treatment facilities approved




by the Indiana Stream Pollution Control Board on or




before March 31, 1970.  This court decision was obtained




under action initiated by the Board for enforcement of




its pollution abatement order dated December 5, 19^7 •



The company has ordered all equipment required and shouli




let contracts for construction in the near future.




               Steiner Tissue Division, Georgia-Pacific




Corporation, Gary.   The waste treatment facilities were



completed during June 1969 and by July 1 the pretreated




wastewater was discharged into the Gary Sanitary Distric'




sewerage system.  Completion of construction was delayed




by late delivery of the sludge scraping mechanism for th<




clarifier and completion of the sludge,lagoon.   I believ<




we reported that as the difficulty in December.




               U.  S. Steel Corporation, Gary Sheet &




Tin Mill (now Gary  Works West), Gary,  The quarterly




progress report dated July 31,  1969, and inspections by

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                        B.  A.  Poole

representatives  of the Board  during late  July  show  that
construction on  the lift stations  to convey the  Sheet
Mill and  the Tin Mill to the  terminal treatment  plant
(6-Stand  Tandem  Cold Reduction Mill waste treatment
plant)  were completed during  June  1969.   Construction
will start soon  on a sewer and lift station to convey
the  treatment effluent from the 80-inch Hot Strip Mill
scale pit to the 84-inch Hot  Strip Mill filtration
facilities for additional  treatment.  Table I  summarizes
the  time  schedule and status  of construction of  each
project.   The time schedule that was considered  for that
particular part  of the Sheet  and Tin Mill was  March 1,
1970.
                U. S. Steel Corporation, Gary Steel  Works,
(now Gary Works  East), Gary.   The  quarterly progress
report dated July 31j 19&9, and inspections by repre-
sentatives of my Board during late July show that con-
Gtruction is proceeding very  well  on the  terminal oil
and  solids removal basins  for the  Blast Furnace  area,
it is sixty percent complete. The  completion date was
December   l,  1-969-
                And next for sewers, sumps, pumps,

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piping and terminal oil and solids removal basins for




the Hot Mills area.  It is forty-five percent complete.




The date on that was 12-31-69-  The oil separators and




facilities for discharge of the wastewater from the




steel making area into the Blast Furnace terminal settlin




basin is proceeding well.  Here again the date was




12-31-69 and it is estimated that this is fifty-five




percent complete.



               I might add that the coke plant wastes




have been connected to the Gary sewer system and they




are being treated in the Gary activated sludge plant.




               Youngstown Sheet and Tube Company, East




Chicago.  Construction was completed during February



1969 on the waste treatment facilities for the Buttweld




Mill.  The quarterly progress report dated July 30, 1969,




and inspections by representatives of the Board during




late July show that construction is proceeding well on




the central water treatment plant to serve the tin mills




and cold reduced sheet mill for the Blast Furnace




recirculation system and Terminal Lagoon.  Table I




summarizes the time schedule and status of each project.




And if you will turn to Table I, which is about the

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third  page  in  the  table,  you  will note the Buttweld Mill




pressure  filters had a completion date of 12-31-69.  They




were completed in  February of 1969.  And the Hot Rolling




Mills,  as I mentioned earlier,  had a completion date of




June 30,  1969s and that was met.   The other three  jobs




are the No.  1  Tin  Mill, No. 2 Tin Mill and the  No.  2




Cold Reduced Sheet Mill,  which  is 12-31-69.   It is  under




construction and  estimated ninety percent complete.  So




it ought  to be done well in advance of the December 1969




deadline.



               Blast Furnace  area was June 30,  1970,




and it is under  construction  and  estimated at about




eighty percent complete.



               And finally, the North Terminal  Lagoon,




which  is  a  kind  of a catch-all  and save-all,  with  a




deadline  of 6-30-70,and it is under construction now




and on schedule.



               Inland Steel Company,  East Chicago.   Con-




struction was  completed on the  waste  treatment  facilities




for the new 12-inch Merchant  Mill during the  first  quartejr




of 1969;  however,  the Mill will not start operation




until  the fall of  19°~9.  This T emphasized was  a new

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facility.  The quarterly progress report dated August k




1969, and inspections by representatives of the Board




during early August show that construction is progressing




very well on the terminal oil and solids removal faciliti




All other scheduled projects have been completed.   The




completion date for the terminal oil and solids removal




facility was May 1, 1970. We think that is on schedule.




               That is all,  Mr.  Chairman.




               (Table I,  to  which Mr.  Poole referred,



is as follows:)

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                                                    TABLE I
                                    Facilities Proposed and Under Construction
                                               Indiana Steel Mills
UNITED STATES STEEL CORPORATION
GARY, INDIANA
  Gary Steel Works (Now Gary Works East)

               Project
   Contaminants to
      be removed
Completion
   date
Status
    Blast Furnace Area - Additional
    settling basins for flue dust, oil
    separators in power station and
    waste segregation

    Steel Making Area - Construction of
    oil  separators and segregation of
    wastewater with discharge to the
    Blast Furnace area flue dust settling
    basin

    Hot  Mills Area - Construction of
     sewers,  sumps, pumps, piping and
     settling and oil skimming basins
Oil and suspended solids
Oil and suspended solids
Oil and suspended solids
  12/1/69       Project is over 60 percent
                complete and on schedule
  12/31/69     Project is over  55 percent
               complete and  on  schedule
  12/31/69      Project is over ^5 percent
               complete and on schedule
   Gary Sheet and Tin Mill (Now Gary Works West)
                      _
    *Segregated wastewager from the Tin
     Mill will be discharged  to the
     existing 6-Stand Tandem  Cold
     Reduction Mill (Terminal)  treatment
     plant
Iron, suspended solids,
free oil, emulsified oil
and BOD
 6/30/69       Completed and placed in
               service 6/30/69
    *The 6-Stand Tandem Cold Reduction Mill  (Terminal) treatment plant was expanded to  handle the additional waste
     flow from the Sheet Mill and Tin Mill.
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             Project
   Contaminants to
      be removed
             Completion
                date
                          Status
  Gary Sheet and Tin Mill (Now Gary Works West ) (continued)
 *Segregated wastewater from the
  Sheet Mill will be discharged to
  the existing 6-Stand Tandem Cold
  .Reduction Mill (Terminal)
  treatment plant

**Wastewater from the 80-inch Hot
  Strip Mill scale pits will be
  diverted to the 84-inch Hot Strip
  Mill filtration plant
Iron, suspended solids,
free oil, emulsified oil
and BOD
               6/30/69
Iron, suspended
and oil
solids
3/1/70
              Completed and placed in
              service 6/30/69
Authorized
 *The 6-Stand Tandem Cold Reduction Mill (Terminal) treatment plant was expanded to handle the additional
 w aste flow from the Sheet Mill and Tin Mill.

**Studies of the operation of the 8U-inch Hot Strip Mill filtration plant show that the existing filtration
  facilities can handle the additional 22,500 gpm from the 80-inch Hot Strip Mill scale pit without expanding
  the facilities.  Reuse of certain waters reduced the wastewater flow and will permit acceptance of the
  additional wastewater through existing facilities.
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YOUNGSTOWN SHEET AND TUBE COMPANY
EAST CHICAGO
               Project
   Contaminants to
      be removed
Completion
   date
Status
    Butt-weld Mill - Pressure filters
Oil and suspended solids
    Hot Rolling Mils - Terminal  lagoon    Oil and suspended solids
    for secondary  clarification of
    effluent
     No.  1 Tin Mill,  No.  2 Tin Mill
     and Mo.  2 Cold Reduced Sheet Mill -
     A central waste-water treatment
     plant for chemical treatment of
     oils and suspended solids.

     Blast Furnace - Sewers, sumps,
     and pumps to collect and recirculate
     all clarified waste from the blast
     furnace.  No discharge to the
     receiving stream .

     North Lagoon - A settling lagoon
     to collect treated wastewater from
     the No.  5 Stand of the Tandem
     Rolling Mill, sewer No. 23  and the
     No. 3 Hot Strip Mill.  All  effluent
     from the lagoon will be recirculated.
     No discharge to the receiving stream.
Oil and suspended solids
Cyanide, oil and suspended
solids
Oil and suspended solids
  12/31/69      Completed rnd placed in
                operation 2/5/69

  6/30/69       Placed in operation on
                6/30/69.  Additional oil
                skimming equipment will not
                be delivered until November
                1969

  12/31/69      Under construction (90 percent
                completed)
 6/30/70       Under construction  (80 percent
               completed)
 6/30/70       Under construction and on
               schedule
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INLAND STEEL COMPANY
EAST CHICAGO

               Project
   Contaminant to
       be removed
Completion
   date
                                                         Status
    Terminal settling and oil
    skimming basin
Oil, suspended solids
and iron
  5/1/70
Under construction and.on
schedule
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               MR.  STEIN:   Thank  you.




               Are  there any  comments  or  questions?




               In case  you think  there  isn't  progress




being made,  I will  say  this is  a  very  good  progress




report.  The reason  is  that this  is  the face  of the




program and  how  this happens, as  you know,  meeting




after meeting Adolph Plating  was  recalcitrant and




not moving.  Indiana took  them  to court;  they are




moving.




               The  Steiner Tissue Company has been




completed and several of the  other mills  in Indiana




are on stream and they  are all  pretty  much  on




schedule.




               So,  again,  while we place  a  lot of




emphasis on  certain  discharges  from  time  to time,




we should not forget the general  picture  in the




area in which we are moving with  mill  after mill.




As you can see from  this latest Indiana report we




have, the list of any noncompliers or  alleged non-




compliers gets smaller  each time.  That is what we




have to keep our eye on and on  narrowing  this list.




               Thank you very much,  Mr. Poole.




               May  we hear from Mr.  Klassen on Illinois,

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                       C.  ¥.  Klassen




                Mr.  Klassen.




         CLARENCE  W.  KLASSEN,  TECHNICAL SECRETARY




               ILLINOIS  SANITARY  WATER BOARD




                  SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS








                MR.  KLASSEN:   Mr.  Chairman,  referring to




 the area within the  conference area coining  under the




 Jurisdiction  of the  Illinois  Sanitary Water Board:



                American Agricultural  Chemical  in Chicago




 Heights.   This  company  is now in  compliance with the




 provisions of the enforcement conference.   They  have




 annexed  the property to the  Sanitary  District  of Bloom




 Township.  They  have  made  the  connections to the  Sanitary




 District  plant  of Bloom Township  and  the Sanitary sewer




 system.   The  new  and the  expanded plant of  the Bloom




 Township  Sanitary District will  be  completed in  about



 thirty days or  by the end of  September.




                Midwest  Forging and  Manufacturing Company




 in  Chicago Heights.  This  company  is in  compliance with




 the  provisions  of the enforcement conference.  The  com-




 pany has  installed a closed neutralization  system.   An




 oil  bath  system is closed with no connection to  the  storn

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                       C.  W. Klassen





sewer  tributaries  to  the  waters  of the State.




                Referring  to the  State Street Ditch or



the  storm  sewer that  was  involved, the Stauffer Chemical



Company  at Chicago Heights is  in compliance with the



provision  of  the enforcement  conference.  All discharge



to the storm  sewer tributary  to  the State street Ditch



has  been eliminated.   Since any  waste discharged from the



Stauffer Chemical  to  the  ditch would be the result of



equipment  malfunctioning  or accidental spills, to safe-



guard  against  this the company is sealing all floor



drains which would carry  flow  from the spills to the



storm  sewer.



                Calumet Steel,  Chicago Heights, is in



compliance.  Previously the mill  scale waste was dis-



charged through  settling  basins  to the storm sewer.  The



Calumet Steel  has  completed a  project to close this



system and  is  now  recycling all  of their water.



                In  its  operation  this summer they found




that during hot  weather there was an increase in the hot



water in their  recirculation  system which required at



times to bleed  off a  small amount of warm water for makeu




To correct  this  particular situation, the company is

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                      C.  ¥.  Klassen






 installing cooling towers  so that this  will be in




 operation and this will  not take  place  during the next




 warm weather season.



                All of  the  other municipal  plants  within




 the jurisdiction of the  Sanitary  Water  Board in this




 area as previously listed  in the  conference are all in




 compliance.



                MR. STEIN:  Thank you,  Mr. Klassen.




                Any comment  or question?



                If not,  thank you  very much--




                MR. DUNSMORE:   Mr.  Stein.




                MR. STEIN:   Yes.




                MR. DUNSMORE:   May I ask Mr.  Klassen a



 question?




                MR. STEIN:   Yes, go right ahead.




                MR. DUNSMORE:   In  view of what you have




 stated  about U.  S. Steel's  plans,  do  you want us  to




 transmit  to  you a copy of our plans and our work  schedule




 that  has  been transmitted to the  Metropolitan Sanitary



 District?




                MR. KLASSEN:   No.   The prime responsibilit




 for enforcement,  as you  and  the Sanitary District have

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                      C. W. Klassen






stated, is the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago




and it is that agency that should  transmit  any requests




for extensions or any plans that they want  us to review.




               MR. DUNSMORE:  All  right.  Well, I would




like to at least leave it that we have plans that we are




willing to submit if you have any  desire for them.




               MR. KLASSEN:  Thank you.




               MR. STEIN:  Are there any other comments




or questions?




               If not, thank you.




               Again let me indicate with both the State




reports and the reports we have gotten from the steel




companies--! hope we will get this from the Federal




installations—this is a situation that I don't think




we have really had before, at least with our schedule,




which is on the encouraging side.  That is I see not




one of these places where there is no progress.  I




don't mean when I say no progress  that they are not




doing anything.  There are no recalcitrants here.




Every one of these sources is moving ahead with a




remedial program as outlined by the conferees, by the




State and the local agencies.  The sole question in some

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                         M.  Garnet






 of the cases is date and I  think this is the first time




 we could have said this  from the reports we have gotten.




 You remember, you people who have been with us, that when




 we first started the progress seemed very slot-;, then a fe




 began to move. But now I think,  unless there is a slippag




 •we have 100 percent movement, which  is quite something.




                Mr. Poston,  do you want to call the Pedera




 installations now or not?




                MR. POSTON:   Yes, sir.



                Mr. Garnet has a very  brief report on




 Federal installations which  covers all of those in this



 area.




                MR. STEIN:   I hope the  record doesn't fall



 down here.








                   MERRILL GAMET,  CHIEF




          FEDERAL ACTIVITIES  COORDINATIONS BRANCH




        FWPCA,  GREAT LAKES REGION,  CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








                MR.  GAMET:  Mr. Chairman,  conferees, ladie



 and  gentlemen.




                My name is Merrill Garnet.   I am Chief of

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                         M.  Garnet


 the  Federal Activities Coordinations Branch of the Federa

 Water  Pollution Control Administration.,  Great Lakes,

 Region.

                The status of compliance of Federal

 installations with the recommendations of  this conference

 was  last reported to the conferees at the  January 29,

 1969,  reconvened session.  At that time it was reported

 that all installations in the conference area were in

 compliance with the conferees'  recommendations,  and

 there  has been no reported change in the status  of such

 compliance.  These installations are as follows:

                U. S. Coast Guard, Indiana  Harbor Light

 Station;

                General Services Administration,  DMS

 Depot, Hammond, Indiana;

                Naval Reserve Training Center, Gary,

 Indiana;

                Corps of Engineers, T. J. O'Brien Lock

 & Dam;

                U. S. Army,  NIKE Missile Sites:

                CG-47, Wheeler,  Indiana (closed
                  since last conference)
                CG-32, Chesterton, Indiana
                CG-45* Gary, Indiana
                CG-46, Munster,  Indiana

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                        M. Garnet






               Continued surveillance will be  conducted




on a  periodic basis to insure that these installations




remain in compliance with the conference summary.




               Federal vessels have not previously been




reported at the Calumet Area Enforcement Conference.  The




following is a brief report on vessels in the  Calumet




Enforcement Conference area:




               (a)  The Corps of Engineers Hopper Dredge




"HOFFMAN" will perform dredging operations in  the Calumet




River from about September 4 to November 22,, 1969.




Selected areas will be dredged from about 130th Street




to the Turning Basin.  Dredged materials will  be depositel




in an alternate spoil area near 130th Street.  This float




ing plant with forty-four crew members has a holding tank




which discharges overboard with no treatment.  Funds have




been requested by the Corps for fiscal year 1970 to install




secondary treatment facilities.  It is recommended that




until such time as adequate treatment facilities are




installed,  the Corps of Engineers engage the services of




a private contractor to pump out the holding tank as



needed.




               (b)  The Corps of Engineers  Tug "MOORE"

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                         M. Garnet






 visits  the  Calumet Enforcement Conference area inter-




 mittently on survey duty.  The area visited is from the




 O'Brien Lock & Dam to Calumet Harbor.  This vessel is




 equipped with a macerator/chlorinator.   It has been




 reported by the Corps of Engineers that this equipment




 has  proven  to be unsatisfactory,  because of frequent




 malfunctions.  The Chief of Engineers office is  presently




 evaluating  other types of waste treatment or holding




 equipment.  As soon as a decision  is reached regarding




 adequacy and economic feasibility, a directive will be




 issued  to replace macerator/chlorinators on all  vessels




 now  equipped with these units.



                This concludes the report.



                MR. STEIN:  Any questions or comments?




                Well,  let me start.  I thought we came  up




 with the notion that on the lakes  we would have closed



 systems on  the boats, all the States went along  with  it.




 Is that correct?



                MR. GAMET:  It is  correct, except that  all




 Corps of Engineer vessels, as I think most everybody  is




 aware,  are  equipped with macerator/chlorinators,  that  is




 most of them.

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               MR. STEIN:  Let's get  out  to  the  first




 one, the HOFFMAN.  That has a closed  system.  As  I




 understand it, the proposal is not to have the closed




 system and pump it out but to put in  a secondary  treat-




 ment plant.



               In other words, you are asking the




 HOFFMAN to do something that we and the conferees agreed




 we weren't going to do in the Great Lakes?




               MR. GAMET:  No, the Corps  of Engineers




 has planned — they have already installed  on another




 dredge known as the MARKHAM an extended aeration or




 package treatment plant on that floating  plant, which is




 in process of testing and evaluation at the present time.




 The Corps is requesting funds for installing the same




 or similar type of equipment on all floating plants of




 the same type.  I can't tell you how many vessels there



 are involved.




               MR. STEIN: This just compounds it.  What



 do they do with the effluent from that?




               MR. GAMET:  The effluent,   I presume, after




 treatment by the extended aeration or package treatment




plant plus chlorination would be discharged.

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               MR.  STEIN: Well, it  is going to contain
nutrients and this  was  precisely the  subject of dis-
cussions here over  and  over  again where we and all the
Great Lakes States,  both of  Michigan  and Erie, agreed
that we wouldn't  go  for this.  And  is this the kind of
thing we are doing  in our own Federal boat program?
               MR.  GAMET:  Well, the  Corps of Engineers
has this in progress at the  present time and--
               MR.  STEIN:  Did you  call the recommenda-
tion of the conferees to the attention of the Corps?
               MR.  GAMET:  We have  called it to their
attention, yes, sir.
               MR.  STEIN: Well, I think I will make the
recommendation on this  we had better  start doing our own
homework on this  one, because I can't see making a
recommendation like  that and going  along with this and
putting this in as,  quote, a progress report.  This may
be going backwards.
               MR.  KLASSEN:  I have got a more practical
suggestion, Mr. Chairman, than recommendation, because
as of January 1,  1970,  they  will be in violation of the
Illinois Sanitary Water Board rules and regulations that

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                         M.  Garnet






 prohibit this type,  and we  will take suitable action




 against the Federal  Government.  (Laughter and Applause.




                MR.  STEIN:   I wish you hadn't said that,




 Mr. Klassen, because,  you  know, on the matter of prin-




 ciple, I would have  to argue you had no jurisdiction and




 I think I could win.   I would like them to clean up, but




 you really can't do  that.



                MR.  KLASSEW:  We can try.




                MR.  STEIN:   I know, you can try.




                {Laughter.)




                But  I  really do think,  Mr.  Garnet,  we  have



 to get to work on this.




                MR.  GAMET:   I agree 100 percent.




                -MR.  STEIN:   All right.




                Mr.  Poston,  can we have your assurance we



 are going to do this?




                MR.  POSTON:   You have that.




                MR. STEIN:   I really can't  see how we



 can live with  this.




                All right.   Are there any other comments



 or  questions?




                If not,  let's see if we can get on with




 a summary.

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                 MR.  STEIN:   I do think  in this  conference,




  one,  that  the  conferees have some work to do with  their




  own  vessels  in the  Great Lakes; and if we are  going  to




  have  sealed  systems and no discharge from heads  on boats,




  this  should  be as applicable to the Federal boats  as  to




  other boats  on the  lake.




                 Number two, we have accepted the  reports




  both  from  Indiana and Illinois and the Sanitary  Dis-




  trict.   All  of the  installations are either moving




  under court  order or they are in compliance with




  schedules  previously brought forward and agreed  on




  by the conferees from both Indiana and Illinois  and




  endorsed by  the conferees, with the following  exceptions:




                 The  Sanitary District reports  that




  there are  several companies not in compliance  with




  the  effluent criteria, that is Gulf Oil, Gargill




  Corporation, Catalin Corporation, Ford Motor  Company,




  Interlake  Steel Company Chicago plant  and Wisconsin




1  Steel Company.  I think the Sanitary District  has  also




  indicated  that it has a very active program to secure




  such  compliance, that it has taken active action in

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                        SUMMARY






case, that it has taken the kind of action which it seem




to me is the most they can do under applicable law and




regulations and the standards that we have.  And as far




as those corporations--! throw this out for the consid-




eration of the conferees--while we may consider these




companies in technical noncompliance, I think we should




endorse the program of the Sanitary District vis-a-vis




these companies and if the date of the program that was




indicated here is missed that we may take that up again,




               Does anybody believe they are not taking




effective action toward them?




               If not, then let us move on that.




               Now, we do have the situation with the




Republic Steel Corporation and the United States  Steel




Corporation South Works.   Both of these corporations




have an outstanding date of September 30,  1969,  to com-




plete their works at the present time.  I think it is




fair to say,  in view of the facts adduced here,  that




these works will not be completed in any event,  what-




ever is done  by that date,  by 1969.

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               In the  case  of  Republic  Steel, the




Sanitary District of Chicago has  reviewed the plans




and forwarded these plans to the  Illinois Sanitary Water




Board with a recommendation that  an  extension until




December 30, 1970, be  authorized.  Illinois has looked




over the plans from a  technical point of view and has




indicated that the construction of these works,  in its




opinion, would produce the kind of water quality it requires




and had  sent  t hem  forward  to  the Department of the




Interior and they have been adopted  by  the Secretary of the




Interior.  The compliance with this would also put



"Republic Steel Corporation in  accord with the recommen-




dations and requirements of this  conference.  The Illi-




nois Board has not, however, yet  acted  on this request




for an extension in line with  its  policy not to act




on such requests until the date of expiration comes up.



               I think we possibly have one or two




proposals :  1 )   unless Illinois  requests the Federal




Government to take action, we  should wait for Illinois




to act.  Now,  Illinois presumably can do one of two

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                         SUMMARY






 major things—and this  is  not to preclude their judg-




 ment—either they are going to grant an extension or a




 modification of that or not grant an extension.  If




 they do not grant an extension,  then I think Illinois




 has made its position clear,both from the administrative




 agency and the Attorney General's office, if someone is




 in noncompliance the State agency will institute  action




 under State law to comply.  I think  we in the Federal




 Government—and I just  put this  out--would encourage




 Illinois to do that. ¥e certainly would  not want to




 displace Illinois.   And the question here is if they




 are in noncompliance whether  we  will join Illinois  or



 start a companion suit  of  the Federal Government.




                However,  if Illinois  does  grant an ex-



 tension to Republic  Steel,  I  think this  should be made




 known to the conferees.  The  conferees would get  togethe




 to make a determination of what  we were  going to  do with




 this  and whether we  were going to recommend that  the




 Secretary take action or go along with this extension.




 I  think the facts  of the situation are that if a  recom-




 mendation for  an extension comes forward  under the

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                        SUMMARY





procedure you have heard, the request would have to be



made by the Sanitary District, so this would be one



conferee, and approved by the Illinois State agency,



which would be another conferee.  And if their Judgment



is made, then this would have to be put forward under



our procedure to the Indiana and the Federal conferee



to see if they agreed to it and made this recommenda-



tion .




               I think if nothing happens by Septem -



ber 30,in any event, and there could be some inaction,



that there would be a violation of the Federal standard



as wellj and at least the proposal I would put out to



you, Mr. Poston, I would see no alternative than the  com



pany being in violation of the Federal requirement and



we recommend particular action in that case.  And cer-



tainly if the State feels that it wants us to handle  it



after September 30    that would be the point.



               Now, the next problem we come to is U.



S. Steel.  As I understand it, there has not been a



request from the Sanitary District to Indiana for an




extension of U. S. Steel.

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                MR.  POOLE:   Illinois,  Mr.  Chairman.




                MR.  STEIN:   Illinois.   I stand corrected,




 sir.   I am traveling east.



                Illinois  has not  been  requested.   It




 has been indicated  that  given  the  relationships  of the




 Sanitary District and Illinois  that the procedural




 matters can be  overcome  and a  determination  might be




 made  by Illinois  by September  30,  or  the  first meeting




 after September 30,  as to whether  that extension would




 be made or not  the  first time  they can bring it  up



 under regular business,  and this goes  for both cases.




                If Illinois  would grant an extension to




 U.S.  Steel, again this matter  would be taken up  by the




 conferees.   If  Illinois  did not  grant  an  extension,




 Illinois has  indicated that it would  institute appro-




 priate  action,  and  if Illinois did nothing I think I




 have  indicated  tnat  the  Federal  Government would have




 an obligation.  In  any event,  if the  States  wanted the




 Federal Government  to intervene  in these  cases and take




 action,  and we  could only do it  if a  date were violated,




 this  State  would  only have  to  make that clear and the

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Federal Government would do it.




               Now, I don't want to put a black mark on



this, because I don't want to get this case out of per-




spective.  What we are dealing with here is the windup




of probably the biggest municipal-industrial cleanup in



the country.  What we are dealing with are companies, in




the case of Republic Steel and U. S. Steel, who have



spent a vast amount of time and money and have come




forth with detailed plans and specifications that are



going to do the job.




               The sole question we have here is the



time that they are going to do the .job, and what we are




in a sense dealing with is a timetable  which might be




two years beyond the original date.



               Now, I would like to point out to the




conferees and the people here that the conferees already




have endorsed, specifically and not just tacitly, sev-




eral dates beyond that December 1968 date, and in re-




viewing the reports we have seen these come in.  There




are a series of industries in Indiana which are going




to be completed beyond the December 1968 date.

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               There are also. In addition  to  the  two




 industries I have mentioned,  a series  of  six  industries




 that  Mr.  Bacon outlined this  morning,  and I  repeated,




 which I  suggested here if the conferees will agree  we




 might consider just in technical noncompliance  and  feel




 that  they have an active program to clean up.




               So I would not like this taken  out  of




 perspective, since the situation with  U. S.  Steel  and




 with  Republic Steel on these  dates Is  still  under  con-




 sideration-- that they are the only two industries  in




 the area  of what we consider  an eminently successful




 program  for which the date of December 1968 has not been




 met.




               This is, I know, going  to be  a  very




 serious  consideration or decision for  all the  agencies




 concerned.  I know the Sanitary District is  going  to hav<




 to make a decision on what they are going to ask Illi-




 nois.  I  know Illinois is going to have to  make this




 decision  on what they are going to do  about  the request,




 certainly the request they have on Republic  and if  they  feet




a request on U.S. Steel.And the Federal Government  is

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going to have to make a determination on what to do once




Illinois acts or the September 30   date passes.




               I think it behooves all concerned, the



industries, the regulatory agencies, and the others




concerned to try to work with this and follow this on




a step-by-step basis, and this is when procedure is going



to pay off.  It is something like one of these national




conventions you see.  Somehow a decision comes out if



you follow the procedure.  I think we have outlined with




particularity what the situation is; all the facts have




been laid bare herej and I would suggest that that be




the summary and we carefully follow the procedure.  Now fc



recap.  Mr. Poston will get to work on these boats and




see if they can be brought in compliance with the rest




of the operation. The conferees will consider the six



industries named by Mr. Bacon to be possibly in technica




noncompliance but that the State has a very active pro-




gram to do this. And we will seek future reports on




whether these States have complied.



               We will wait until the meeting after




September 30   or the appropriate meeting of the Illinoi:
r a

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Water Board for  its  action or inaction on United State




Steel and Republic Steel.     If there is a recommenda-




tion for an extension we will take this up with the con-




ferees to see if they will endorse it.  If there is a




recommendation for a nonextension, the State of Illinois




will take action and the Federal representatives will




take it up with the people in Washington to see if we




will join or have a suit with Illinois.  If no action




is taken, the Federal people will make a recommendation




on action under Federal law to seek compliance.



               We will ask the technical committee--best




things are covered last and that is where, really, the




work is going to be done—we will ask the technical



committee to have within the hands of the conferees in




the next four months a detailed report on its  prognosis-



and don't wait until you perfect this, because we are




going to have to start working on this—a detailed




report on its prognosis of whether the remedial program



under way is going to produce the water quality which




we expect.  If it is not, its recommendations  for im-




proving that.  Once that gets into the hands of the

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conferees and their technical staff., we would ask your




careful review, and hopefully when we get back next time




on this we will be in complete agreement on the technica




facts involved—there should be no disagreement on that-




because if we are going to make an adjustment on the




program and it is not going to work, we should do it now




               Are there any other comments or questions




               Now--




               ME. SPEARS:  Mr. Chairman, I requested




an opportunity to make a statement this morning.  My




name is Lawrence Spears.




               MR. STEIN:  All right, I will let you




make a statement.  Just a moment.




               MR. SPEARS:  Thank you.




               MR. STEIN:  Are there any other comments




or questions?



               If not, will you come up, Mr. Spears.




               MR. SPEARS:  Thank you.




               MR. KLASSEN:  We ought to know who he is





representing.



               MR. STEIN:  Will you identify yourself

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                       L.  E>.  Spears






 and who you are  going to  represent.,  sir?




                MR.  SPEARS:   Yes.








                    LAWRENCE  D.  SPEARS




             BUSINESSMEN FOR  PUBLIC  INTEREST




                    CHICAGO,  ILLINOIS








                MR.  SPEARS:   My  name  is  Lawrence  D.




 Spears.  I  am a  student at the  University  of  Chicago




 law school  and a resident of Hyde Park  in  Chicago.




 This statement will be  very  short.




                Conferees, ladies and gentlemen.




                Those industries found to be demonstrating




 good faith  in attempting  to  comply  with the conference




 deadlines were granted  extensions at the last meeting of




 this conference.  The conferees  rather clearly felt  neithe




 Republic nor  U.  S.  Steel  had shown  good faith.   It  may




 well be that  because of earlier delays  it  is  no  longer




 practicable to control  pollution from these two  plants




 before  the  date  they now  propose, December 31, 1970,  for




 both Republic and U.  S. Steel.  But  the conference  ought




 to  be very  sure  that these schedules cannot be accelerated

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                       L. D. Spears






 before approving them in any sense.




                For example, U. S. Steel's settlement in



 the Metropolitan Sanitary District suit shows that the



 November 1971 date proposed to the conference last




 January was more lenient than necessary.  This indicates



 the question of candor on the part of U. S.  steel.




                Further, the conference should consider



 ordering a partial shutdown closing those parts  of any



 plant that are not in compliance and recommending that



 the United States Government itself purchase no  steel



 from these companies so long as they are in  violation.



                Moreover, the conference ought to  assure



 compliance with the proposed new schedules by requiring



 the companies to post substantial performance bonds



 providing for the forfeiture of,  say,  $10,000 per day  in



 the case of default.  If these  companies are confident



 that they can comply with the dates  that are proposed,



 they should have no objection to posting these bonds



 for they will never pay them.   But experience in  the past



 has shown that these companies  go from one date  to the ne^t




 having confidence each time that they  will be given



 extensions of the schedule,  as  has been indicated here

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                       L.  D.  Spears






 today.




                Moreover,  the apparently callous  dis-




 regard  of conference  recommendations  ought not to go




 unpunished.   The  conference  should ask the Illinois




 Attorney General  under powers  granted to him by  the




 statute in June of 1969 to prosecute  the two companies




 for polluting the water and  to  seek the imposition of




 substantial  fines. Without  penalties,  a polluter is




 likely  to feel that he can ignore  the conference  as




 Republic and U. 3. Steel  seem  to have done with  impunity,




                Finally,  the  conference  should  be  asked




 to forbid all discharges  to  Lake Michigan.   The  lake is




 uniquely valuable for  recreation,  water supply and other




 uses  requiring clean water,  and because of its extremely




 low outflow  it is uniquely hard to clean after wastes



 have  been dumped  into  it.




                It is clear that there has  been a  demon-



 strated lack of good faith with the people of  Chicago




 both  by Republic  and U. S. Steel.   It is  clear that  no




 attempt has  been  made  to  offer overtime in order  to




 accelerate the schedules  for compliance of these  two




 companies.

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                       L. D. Spears

                Second, the negotiations with U.  S.
 Steel,  they have not submitted specific plans for how
 they  will comply with the guidelines of this conference.
 Both  of these companies have confidence that the  State
 agencies involved and this conference will at the
 appropriate time give them extensions.   At the end  of
 those new schedules they will give them continued
 extensions.  This confidence was  demonstrated clearly todjay,
                There is also a lack of  respect for  these
 conferees.   The lack of detailed  information by the
 steel companies, assuming that slides are  sufficient
 information in lieu of technical  data,  and the lack of
 specific plans and the fact that  they have not as yet
 requested the appropriate State agencies within a month
 of  the deadline, understanding that they have complete
 confidence  that these agencies will simply agree  to thosi
 extensions  without further ado.
                Thank you.
                (Applause.)
                MR. STEIN: Thank you, Mr. Spears,  for
 your  comments.
                You know, I am going to  say something,

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                        Murray Stein






  and I hope the group that is here and I know is trying




  to work on this will just listen to this for awhile,




  because we all want water pollution control and if we




  talk in certain senses at cross purposes we are just not




  going to get it.




                 One, the U. S. Steel and Republic have




  given detailed plans which we can understand.  They




  weren't in those slides.  They can be inspected in the




  offices.  The kind of reports they have are meaningful




  to the conferees up here.




                 Now, if you have been attending the




  conferences through the years, you know that the one




  thing I have been after people about is the sketchi-




  ness of plans and reports.  The point is,  again — and




  we have done this in other places, and you have seen




  plant after plant built--both in this experience and




  past experience the record shows that when U. S.




  Steel or Republic says they are going to do something




  that they are going to do it.  They produce and they




|  do it and the plans are detailed.




                 The next thing you talk about, and once




  we start on this it is very hard to get together, there

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                       Murray Stein






 has  been no implication here that anyone acted in bad




 faith.   It is the easiest kind of thing to turn the




 metaphysics into the reality. When we talk about good




 faith  or bad faith, we generally talk about a person.




 If you  are going to equate that with a corporation and




 attempt to use those terms when they are making corporate




 decisions or if you think there is a cabal or a conspirac




 and  government is run that way and there is a conspiracy




 among  the conferees, you are never going to get anywhere.




 But  you can always explain,  you can always explain these




 events  that way.




                Let me tell you the way I see  it here.




 We have dealt with a very complicated case in this area.




 We have moved forward in cleaning up this  case, and I




 think  the record will show we have made faster progress




 here in a very complicated situation than  was done any-




 where  else in the country.  We have moved  since 1965




 getting the bulk of the industry cleaned up,  we are




 cleaning up the last ends of it.   It always gets  a little




 tricky  or a little messy because we don't  march in




 goosestep  together.  I wish we could throw a switch on




 each plant the same day and get them all operating,  but

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                       Murray Stein






 we don't work that way in a democracy.



                But what bothers me, gentlemen, is this.



 When we finally get the case where hundreds of millions




 of dollars are spent,  where we are getting    100



 percent compliance and the industries and the municipal-



 ities are going, if we keep getting cries of bad faith,



 whatever the reason, and you may push for a closer date



 or higher treatment or anything of that kind, but if we



 get in a situation like this with cries of bad faith,



 I don't know how we are going to work in a democratic



 society this way.



                I think the answer in  here is this.  While



 goodness knows,  I  may  have had differences through the



 years with Mr. Klassen, with the representatives of U.S.



 Steel, with the  representatives of Republic Steel, with



 Mr.  Poole, and even my Regional Director here,  Mr. Boston



 never once did I think that any one of those people was



 guilty of bad faith.  And I hope that they did not con-



 sider I was guilty of  bad faith.



                Let me  again try to give you this.   And



 you  know,  the last speaker was  from the law school.  The



 Attorney from Republic Steel is here,  Mr.  Pitts,  who is

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                      Murray Stein


a very highly respected member of the bar.  We have had

many differences through the years, but we have kept

talking to each other.  if v/e ever had the notion that

either one was not dealing in a thoroughly professional

manner or was dealing in bad faith, we would not have

been able to move the way we have through the power of

negotiation.

               And I say to this group who is here now,

please, please try to think of this as a democratic

process in action.  You are not dealing with alien

enemies who want to destroy you.  You are dealing with

people who are citizens of your own country, who are as

firmly committed to the democratic process as you are,

and who may have a different point of view.  The magic

is that we can get an accommodation in processes like

these.  And I hope we are not going to let that break

down.

               Are there any other comments  or questions?

               If not,  thank you  all  for  coming and we

will stand adjourned.

               (Whereupon, at 4:00 p.m.,  the conference

was adjourned.)
               The following document was submitted
after the close of the  conference.)

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       STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN EDWARD J. DERWINSKE  (ILL. - ^TH DIST. )
         AT CALUMET AREA FEDERAL-STATE ENFORCEMENT CONFERENCE

                        August 26, 1969

Mr. Chairman:

       I welcome this opportunity to participate in the Calumet Area

Federal-State Enforcement Conferenceto resolve cleanup dates for two

major  industrial polluters of Lake Michigan and its tributaries.

       First, as a legislator may I remind you of my introduction of

H.R. 3263, to allow an incentive tax credit for a part of the cost of

constructing or otherwise providing facilities for the control of water

or air pollution and to permit the amortization of such cost within a period

of from one to five years.

       Water pollution has become a major problem across the country and

the answer lies in giving this question major priority in the Federal budget.

       News reports have accurately described the buck-passing routine between

Federal, State and Sanitary District authorities and their counterparts in

other  states bordering on Lake Michigan,,

       The public's interest must be protected at all costs and this requires

not only proper Federal financing, but complete coordination wit1- local, state

and regional authorities.  In addition, a substantial amount of funds for

water  and air pollution control devices must come from private industry.

       It is my feeling that where local and state governments can move

effectively and quickly to abate pollution they should do so.  Where state

and local authorities fail to move or do not achieve abatement, then the

Federal Government will do so.

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                               -2-




       In o-ur  area "basic jurisdiction lies with the Metropolitan Sanitary




District and they are the key to the coordination which must he achieved




between Federal state and local authorities.




       I wish  to assure participants in the Conference that concern over




the  problem of water and air pollution is receiving priority attention from




Federal  officials, and that Congress recognizes that measures in this vital




field are long overdue.



        Dae challenge is  clear.   I trust that the  results of this Conference




•will be a constructive  attack on the water pollution problems  in the Calumet




 region.
                                                U. S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE : 1970 O - 373-553

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