MEETING REPORT-
   ADVANCED  FOSSIL FUELS SECTOR GROUP
   RESEARCH  TRIANGLE PARK
   13  NOVEMBER  1975
                          Office of Energy, Minerals, and im
                            Office of Research and Development
                           U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
                                Washington, D.C.  20460


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                                        EPA-600/9-76-006
                                        February 1976
              MEETING REPORT

ADVANCED FOSSIL FUELS SECTOR GROUP (AFFSG)

          RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK

             13 NOVEMBER 1975
               Prepared by:
       Stanford Research Institute
           1611 N. Kent Street
        Arlington, Virginia 22209
         Contract No. 68-01-2940
                 Task 026
           Technical Monitors:

       Dr. Gary J. Foley, Chairman
       Mr. William N. McCarthy,  Jr.
    Advanced Fossil Fuels Sector Group
 Office of Energy, Minerals and  Industry
   U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
          Washington, D.C. 20460
             Project  Officer:

             Mr. Albert  Pines
              PREPARED FOR:

   U.S.  ENVIRONMENTAL  PROTECTION AGENCY
    OFFICE OF  RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
 OFFICE  OF ENERGY, MINERALS AND INDUSTRY
          WASHINGTON,  D.C. 20460

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                              DISCLAIMER
     This report has been reviewed by the Office of Energy, Minerals, and
Industry, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and approved for publica-
tion.  Approval does not signify that the contents necessarily reflect the
views and policies of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, nor does
mention of trade names or commercial products constitute endorsement or
recommendation for use.
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                          TABLE OF CONTENTS
LIST OF FIGURES	iv

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF MEETING MINUTES  (AFFSG)	1

     Morning Session (Control Technology)  	  1
     Afternoon Session  (Pollutant Priorities)  	  3

MEETING REPORT MINUTES	5

     Morning Session (Control Technology)  	  5
        Speakers:

             Dr .  John Burchard	5
             Dr.  Gary Foley	5
             Mr.  James  Durham 	  7
             Mr.  Harold Coughlin	10
             Mr.  Robert Hangebrauck  	 12
             Mr.  Kelly  Janes	12
             Dr.  Myron  Gottlieb	13
             Mr.  Milton Beychok	16

        General  Discussion	21

     Afternoon Session  (Pollutant Priorities)  	 22
        Speakers  :

             Dr.  Stephen Gage	22
             Mr.  Karl Bombaugh	22
             Dr.  Max Samfield	23
             Dr.  John Cleland	23
             Dr.  Murray Schulraan	25
             Dr.  Robert Tardiff	29
        General  Discussion	30

     Meeting Recommendations	33

ATTACHMENTS	35

     Attachment  I:  Agenda	35
     Attachment  II:  List of Attendees	37
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                           LIST OF FIGURES
        Title/Subject

1    Interaction Diagram

2    Advanced Fossil Fuel Sector Group
     Relationship

3    Organizational Chart, ERDA, Office
     of Assistant Administrator for
     Environment and Safety

4    WESCO--Emissions vs. Regulations

5    WESCO--Sulfur Disposition

6    Recommendations for Industry
     Emissions Standards

7    Event Sequence for Pollutant
     Identification, Toxicity Determination
     and Control

8    Number of (Potentially Toxic)
     Substances

9    Prioritization Factors
     Speaker       Page

Dr. Gary J. Foley    6


Dr. Gary J. Foley    8



Dr. Myron Gottlieb  14

Mr. Milton Beychok  18

Mr. Milton Beychok  19


Mr. Milton Beychok  20



Dr. Max Samfield    24


Dr. John Cleland    26

Dr. John Cleland    27
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                 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF MEETING MINUTES
                  ADVANCED FOSSIL FUELS SECTOR GROUP
                        RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK
                           13 NOVEMBER 1975
Morning Session
     Mr. Robert Hangebrauck, sector group member from EPA's Industrial
Environmental Research Laboratory (IEKL/RTP) introduced Dr. John Burchard.
IERL Director, who welcomed the group and pointed out that IERL was con-
ducting environmental research for all new energy sources except oil shale.
     Dr. Gary Foley of the Office of Energy, Minerals and Industry (OEMI),
EPA, the meeting chairman, reviewed events leading to the establishment of
EPA's new energy R&D program and the Advanced Fossil Fuels Sector Group.
The major function of the Advanced Fossil Fuels Sector Group is to identify
the interests of all groups involved in R&D or commercialization in order
to produce timely and useful environmental R&D results.  Opinions and
recommendations from group participants were solicited.
     The first speaker, Mr. James Durham, of EPA's Emission Standards and
Engineering Division, discussed air pollution standards, emphasizing the
importance of setting these standards early in the development process.
He noted that EPA is required to define standards in terms of emission
control taking control costs into consideration, although not in terms of
health and welfare cost benefit trade offs, and that standards are not
static.
     Next, Mr. Harold Coughlin of the Effluent Guidelines Division, EPA,
discussed the philosophy and process for establishing effluent limitations
and standards under the 1972 amendments to Public Law 92-500.  The effluent
standards are technology based—either on best practicable technology (BPT)
or best available technology (BAT)—with deadline dates of 1977 and 1983
for compliance.  It was mentioned that zero discharge of pollutants into
streams by 1985 was an ultimate goal, with the 1983 standards aiming at
achieving swimmable and fishable waters.  Coordination of comprehensive
limits on air and water standards for a single facility was also discussed.
Considerable discussion about standards and their relevance followed these
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     The chairman introduced Mr. Robert Hangebrauck and Mr. Kelly Janes.
 IERL, who are managing  the EPA R&D program in synthetic fuel with a multi-
 media approach, treating the industry as a whole and taking local environ-
 mental  goals and pollutant effects into consideration.  An approach to
 control technology development was presented which assumed similar control
 technology would be used for similar operations—i.e., preparation,
 reaction, purification, upgrading, etc.--independent of process or product
 type.
     Dr. Myron Gottlieb from ERDA's Office of the Assistant Administrator
 for Environment and Safety (AES) indicated that his office addresses prob-
 lems of environment and safety across all of the line divisions of ERDA
 including fossil fuels.  Dr. Gottlieb represents a new group in AES whose
 primary responsibility is to monitor, review and evaluate the activities
 of developers of new energy technology and to serve as an overview and
 assessment group to ensure that environmental adequacy is developed in
 parallel with the development of the technology.  He stated that specific
 coordination links with EPA are now being developed.
     The next speaker, Mr. Milton Beychok, a consulting engineer, gave an
 industrial viewpoint of environmental control technology development.  He
 feels that industry is quite willing to accept emission regulations if they
 are based on realistic data and commercially viable technology.  He voiced
 some disagreement with current procedures and made suggestions for improve-
ment of interactions between regulatory agencies and industry.  He also
presented a brief case study of the WESCO design for coal gasification
plants in New Mexico and indicated that there was excellent cooperation
between the State of New Mexico and WESCO resulting in standards which have
not been contested by the strong environmental groups in New Mexico.  He
further discussed the WESCO sulfur control system and stated that the single
standard concept for sulfur emissions does not fit all situations.
     The general discussion following the morning session involved:  fugi-
tive emissions, the problems of multiple sources in close geographic prox-
imity, and the integration of ERDA and EPA roles in the development of
acceptable control technology along with new energy production technology.

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Afternoon Session
     The afternoon session was introduced by Dr. Stephen Gage, who empha-
sized the importance of the Advanced Fossil Fuels Sector Group, particu-
larly in view of the continuing large-scale demonstration program and
recent executive and legislative proposals.  Mr Gerald Rausa, in charge
of health effects planning at the Office of Energy, Minerals and Industry,
EPA, chaired the afternoon session.
     Mr. Karl Bombaugh of Radian Corporation presented an engineering
approach developed for EPA for prioritizing pollutants by extrapolating
effects from known emission streams and drawing analogies.
     Dr. Max Samfield, IERL/RTP, discussed individual pollutants, their
sources and the establishment of acceptable levels.  Discussion followed
this talk concerning the status and results of this work.
     Dr. John Cleland of Research Triangle Institute indicated that only
500 chemical compounds out of thousands which are potentially toxic to
humans have had standards set, and emphasized the importance of prioritizing
pollutants in order to conserve research funds.  He also showed different
methods of prioritization and the lack of correlation among the results.
     Dr. Murray Schulman of ERDA reviewed the key elements of their bio-
medical research program which included:   (1) rapid in vitro and in vivo
bioassay to identify agents capable of producing carcinogenic, mutagenic,
teratogenic or pathophysiological effects; (2) determination of the uptake,
translocation, deposition, or excretion and enzymatic modification of
chemical agents identified as toxigenic; (3) quantitation of risk estimate
for carcinogenic, mutagenic, teratogenic, and pathophysiological effects
in model, short-lived experimental animals; (4) acquisition and analysis of
all human information relevant to metabolism and effects of fossil energy-
related chemical agents;  and (5) development of theoretical and animal
models  to insure the extrapolation of the animal information to man.
     Dr. Robert G. Tardiff of the Water Quality Division, EPA, Cincinnati,
discussed problems of organic compounds in drinking water.  He suggested
three classes of factors that are important in prioritization—chemical,
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He observed that it is difficult to weigh the relative importance of differ-
ent classes of criteria, and in the final analysis, best professional
judgments by experts were used to define the final research priorities.
     Following the afternoon presentations, the following points were dis-
cussed:  Impact of EPA and ERDA R&D programs on industry; the need for more
direct communication between EPA and ERDA; the importance of research and
development on environmental effects to identify those pollutants causing
the greatest damage, since total removal of all pollutants would be too
costly; the importance of knowing the extent to which a pollutant will
occur in the emissions from comnercial plants; the need for social impact
inputs; the current stage of development of new source standards for the
Lurgi-type processes (especially the need for actual operations data); the
importance of establishing the population-at-risk in any prioritization
method; and the relevance of research to the standards-setting process.
     The general meeting was then adjourned and the Executive Committee
met to summarize the major points and draw conclusions pertinent to the
R&D program.

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                            MEETING REPORT
                  ADVANCED FOSSIL FUELS SECTOR GROUP
                     RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK (RTF)
                           13 NOVEMBER 1975
                               MINUTES

Morning Session
     The Director of EPA's Industrial Environmental Research Laboratory
(IERL), Dr. John Burchard, was introduced by Mr. Robert Hangebrauck, also
of IERL.  Dr. Burchard pointed out that Research Triangle Park was conduct-
ing environmental research for all new energy sources except oil shale.
They have major programs underway for both the development of environmental
control technology and the evaluation of effects of energy related pollutants,
     The chairman of the meeting, Dr. Gary Foley of the Office cf Energy,
Minerals and Industry (OEMI),  EPA, reviewed the events leading up to the
establishment of EPA's new energy R&D program.  The first energy study was
conducted in 1960 and resulted in the conclusion that energy supplies were
adequate to meet the needs of the country since they were considered nearly
inexhaustible.  In 1967 an energy policy office was established in the
Executive Office.  In 1971 the President delivered his first energy message
to Congress.  In 1973 a report was produced under the chairmanship of Dr.
Dixie Lee Ray that recommended a five-year $10 billion energy research and
development program.  In part, the result of that program recommendation
was a request for an expenditure in FY 75 of $191 million for environmental
R&D.  This request was subsequently reduced in budget negotiations to $134
million.  In 1974 the Office of Management and Budget organized two inter-
agency task forces—one under Dr. King in health and environmental effects
and the other under Dr. Gage which studies programs of control technology.
Both of these reports recommend major interagency programs.
     The research and development problems discussed in these reports are
many and stem from uncertainties related to emissions, toxicity, control
technology capabilities and environmental effects.  There are also many
different groups involved  (Figure 1)--those who set environmental standards
at both Federal and State  levels, those who conduct research and development

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                                             Figure  1
                                      INTERACTION DIAGRAM
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       Energy/
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        R&D
     (Planning and
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                Offices
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in both production and emission control technology and environmental effects
and the industry that must implement the control technology and  develop  the
energy resources.
     It was indicated that the major function of the Advanced Fossil Fuels
Sector Group is that of identifying the interests of all of the  groups
involved in the process to produce timely and useful results (Figure 2).
Specific recommendations from group participants for EPA research were
solicited.
     Dr. Foley pointed out that the Sector Group is composed of  an executive
board of EPA representatives and members from other Federal agencies who are
involved in energy R&D.  Historically,  the first organizational  meeting was
held in March 1975.  Since that time application has been made to become an
official Federal advisory committee, but the Office of Management and Budget
decided that there are, in its opinion, already too many advisory committees.
However, it is planned that Sector Group activities are to continue by limit-
ing membership to Federal agency representatives and obtaining industrial
inputs through contractors and consultants.
     Two documents had been prepared to assist in formulating recommendations
for the EPA R&D program.  One is a status report on the overall research in
advanced fossil fuels and the other describes the environmental problems and
associated research programs.  Copies of these reports were sent to partici-
pants prior to the meeting.  Comments on the usefulness and recommendations
for modification of these documents were solicited.
     The first speaker, Mr. James Durham of EPA's Emission Standards and
Engineering Division, discussed air pollution standards.  He stated that
Section 111 of the Clean Air Act of 1970 requires EPA to establish new
source performance standards, and emphasized the importance of setting these
standards early in the development process to ensure uniform standards and
regulations, to reduce development costs and times, and to assist in early
financing.  He noted that EPA is required to define standards in terms of
the best technical system of emission control with cost taken into  consid-
eration, and that the standards are not static but are continuously reviewed
and subject to modification.  It was further pointed out that:

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     •  more technical judgment is involved than is  required  in more
        established industries.
     •  the standards group is  not required to conduct  economic cost-
        benefit analyses before setting standards.   That  is,  the
        Agency need not evaluate the  health and welfare cost-benefits
        that would be derived from the emissions reductions that
        would result from a standard.
     •  EPA must demonstrate that the standard can be  technically
        achieved and that the technology is available.
     •  the emission reductions achieved by the standards are reason-
        able when compared to the economic  and environmental  costs  of
        applying the technology.
     Mr. Durham's talk was followed by a question and  answer  period that
focused on the following points:
     •  Both liquid and solid wastes  are considered  when  emissions
        standards are set.  However,  the allowable  liquid effluents
        are set by water standards.
     •  The Agency's preliminary thoughts regarding  standards for
        sulfur emissions from coal gasification plants will be
        publicly reviewed early next  year.   This review procedure
        will provide ample opportunity for  industry  comment before
        proposed standards are published in the Federal Register.
     •  National emission standards will be uniform and will  not  be
        site-specific.
     •  The emission standards are based on the capabilities  of  the
        best demonstrated control technology, and with consideration
        of the reasonableness of costs and not directly on the environ-
        mental effects of air pollutants from a cost-benefit  point  of
        view.
     •  The goal is not to run cost-benefit analyses on the benefits
        to the environment, but to reduce mass emission by a certain
        tonnage, unrelated to the number of lives and structures saved

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        or the number of plants  that will live as a result.  This
        type of analysis is not  required under the standards.
      •  A control technology is  considered to be "demonstrated"
        when it can reasonably be expected to achieve specific
        levels of pollutant reduction at reasonable cost.  It is
        not necessary to obtain  actual emission data on commercial
        installations to prove the standard can be achieved,
        although this is most desirable.  So, technical judgment
        is heavily involved.  The objective is to set attainable
        levels (allowing latitude for error) using current control
        technology.  However, as more data are generated, the
        criteria relative to attainable standards may change in
        the future.
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      •  Feedstock variation is a major consideration and standards
        will not necessarily preclude development of gasification
        plants using high sulfur coal.  Unless impractical, a single
        nationwide standard will be set considering the fuels and
        feedstock which are available throughout the country.
      •  One of the factors considered in the selection of sources
        of pollutants is the overall reductions that will be
        achieved.  Section 110 of the Act provides for States to
        prepare plans to comply with national air quality standards—
        that is where health and welfare efforts play a stronger role
        in Federal regulations, but not under new source standards.
     Next, Mr. Harold Coughlin of the Effluent Guidelines Division of EPA
Headquarters, discussed the philosophy and process for establishing effluent
limitations and standards.  He stated that the requirements for direct dis-
chargers are established by several sections of the 1972 amendments to
Public Law 92-500, and like the air quality standards, the effluent stan-
dards are technology based.
     Existing industrial point sources must meet best practicable technol-
ogy (BPT)  by July 1, 1977 and must meet best available technology (BAT) by
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July 1, 1983.  BPT is the average of the best technology;  BAT is the best
plan within an industry category or subcategory.
     New sources (defined as any construction beginning after the day a
regulation is proposed) must use best demonstrated technology.
     However, effluent quality requirements can be overriden in specific
geographic areas if more stringent limitations are needed  to achieve state
and local water quality standards.  Additional requirements may also be
imposed if the effluents contain pollutants that  have been established to
be toxic in amounts above a certain level.   As with air quality emission
regulations, no cost-benefit analysis regarding impact on  fish or wildlife
is required as regards environmental impact.  Consideration will be given
to the total cost of BPT application in relation to the effluent reduction
benefits to be achieved.
     The following points were discussed during the question and answer
period that followed Mr. Coughlin's presentation:
     •  The idea behind BPT was not to set a number that everyone
        could meet, or there would be no purpose in setting that
        number in the first place.  The fact that half are above
        and half below, was not felt to be contrary to congressional
        intent.  This point was challenged by the example of the
        development of petroleum industry guidelines.  Of 173 petro-
        leum plants surveyed, five had best technology available.
        The questioner felt that the intent of Congress was that
        the remaining 168 should be brought up to the level of
        those five, not to a median level of the total 173 plants.
     t  Effluent guidelines for coal mines are now published as
        preliminary values in the regulation preamble.  The current
        data base was felt to support the numbers in the preamble,
        and they will be moved to the actual regulation after the
        economic impact study is  finished.
     •  It is important that the data base  for both water pollutant
        emissions and in-stream water quality take seasonal varia-
        tions into account.
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      •   The Act  sets  zero discharge  of  pollutants  into  the  streams
         as  a water  quality goal  for  1985.  A  lot of  effluent dis-
         charges  are zero.   However,  some retreat from the 1977
         objective has been suggested by the National Commission on
         Water Quality.   Zero  discharge  is defined  as the complete
         absence  of  liquid waste  at the  end of the  pipe  discharging
         water into  U.S.  navigable waters.  Standards for discharge
         quality  may be related to the quality of the input waters
         at  the discretion of  the Regional Administrator.
      •   Effluent standards allow the mixing of effluent streams of
         different types  before they  are discharged.   The effluent
         regulations are  designed to  apply to  the end point only.
      •   The water quality  guidelines for 1977 cannot be expected
         to  apply to new  synthetic fuel  plants because most plants
         have five-year permits now.   The big  question is what stan-
         dards will  be required for 1983 in order to  achieve swim-
         mable and fishable waters.   Emphasis  will  probably be on
         new source  standards where there is high growth potential.
      •   With regard to coordination  of  comprehensive limits on air
         and water standards for  a single facility, the  laws under
         which EPA is  operating and the  court  decisions  on these laws,
         give some indication of  what EPA can  do under the Act.  EPA
         is  not presently structured  to  develop air and water stan-
         dards at the  same  time.  It  was not felt that this was
         retarding development of badly  needed  energy.   The Office
         of  Planning and Evaluation is doing an overview study of
         about six industries to  assess  the impact and cost of the
        Agency's total environmental  regulatory activity in those
         industires.    This may result  in an Agency policy to inte-
         grate the different areas.   There is  concern at EPA about
         this potential problem.
     Mr. Robert Hangebrauck, Division Director, and  Mr. Kelly Janes. Branch
Chief, IERL, manage  the EPA R&D programs in synthetic fuels, advanced oil
processing and coal  cleaning.  They made the  following points:
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     •  The EPA R&D program is  a  multi-media  approach  to  environ-
        mental problems.   The industry  is  treated  as a whole,
        unlike the media-oriented standards program, to determine
        what kinds of control technology requirements  should be
        applied and/or developed.
     •  Local environmental goals and pollutant effects are
        considered.
     •  Each industrial sector  is asked four  basic questions:
        (1)  Can control technology achieve existing stan-
             dards and operating  practices?
        (2)  Can control technology meet existing  ambient
             standards?
        (3)  Are the projected  environmental  effects accept-
             able?
        (4)  Is it possible to  eliminate waste streams?
     •  The environmental impact  analysis  is  conducted for alter-
        native control technologies based  on  the expected outcomes
        of specific R&D projects.
     •  The approach to control technology development will be based
        upon the assumption that  similar control technology will be
        used for similar unit  operations independent of process or
        product type.  These unit operations  would be  preparation,
        feeding, reaction, purification,  product upgrading, waste
        treatment and byproduct recovery.
     The Chairman asked the audience to be thinking about comments on EPA's
approach to control technology  development.   He asked  if  it should be more
process specific and stated that thase  points would be discussed at the end
of the morning session.  He then introduced Dr. Myron  Gottlieb representing
ERDA's Environmental Control Technology Division (ECT) which  was established
in July 1975.
     Dr. Gottlieb initially described the overall  ERDA organizational chart.
He explained that ECT has concerns that cut across the ERDA organizational
chart (Figure 3).  These concerns include coal extraction, combustion,
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DIVISION OF BIOMEDICAL
AND ENVIRON, RESEARCH

J, LIVERMAN, DIRECTOR
NEW YORK HEALTH AND
 SAFETY LABORATORY

J, HARLEY, DIRECTOR
                             ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR
                                      FOR
                             ENVIRONMENT AND SAFETY

                                   J. LIVERMAN
DIVISION OF OPERATIONAL
        SAFETY

  M, BILES, DIRECTOR
DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
   CONTROL TECHNOLOGY

H,  HOLLISTER,  ACTING DIRECTOR
                             REACTOR SAFETY RESEARCH
                                  COORD, STAFF

                             R,  BARBER,  ACTING DIRECTOR

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gasification and liquefaction, petroleum and natural gas, oil shale, marine
oil spills, geothermal, conservation, and solar technologies.  They recog-
nize the fact that the developers of energy technology are in the best posi-
tion to provide environmentally acceptable energy systems.  They expect that
this work will be done during the development of the energy technology and
that retrofits may be required to respond to new environmental requirements.
Their primary responsibility is to monitor, review, and evaluate the activi-
ties of developers of new energy technology.  Where necessary, selected R&D
will be supported.  They conduct assessments by:  (1) identifying the nature
and extent of the problem, (2) defining control technologies or strategies
applicable to these problems, (3) evaluating the efficacy and practicability
of control options, and (4) recommending a control option for the systems,
or, if there is a gap, a development program to close that gap.  They plan
to ensure that environmental adequacy is developed in parallel with the
development of the technology.
     The following points were made during the discussion:
     •  The Division of ECT was started in July 1975, and coordina-
        tion links with EPA are being developed.
     •  ECT expects to use existing emission standards and to
        establish required levels of control and will initially
        rely heavily on existing data on environmental controls.
     •  Health and ecological effects are being considered primar-
        ily by the Division of Biomedical and Bnvrionmental Research,
        Assistant Administrator for Environment and Safety, ERDA.
     •  ERDA has specific legislative authority for carrying out
        the environmental functions for new energy technologies.
     •  It is not clear yet how results from the ERDA regional
        studies will be incorporated into ECT activities but ECT
        will follow their progress.
     •  A primary function of ECT is to serve as an overview and
        assessment group.
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     The Chairman then asked the participants to compare the EPA and ERM
approaches  to control technology development and be prepared to discuss
these points at the discussion period which would follow the next speaker.
He  then introduced Mr. Milton Beychok, a consulting engineer, who presented
a talk on the industrial viewpoint of environmental control technology
development.
     Mr. Beychok felt that the industry is quite willing to accept emission
regulations if they are, in fact, based on realistic data and upon control
technology  that has been demonstrated to be commercially viable.  However,
he  felt it was insufficient to rely on the 30 to 60 day comment period that
is  provided for a proposed regulation.  The industry must be involved early
in  the standard-setting process because of the long lead times required for
control technology development.  He felt that an understanding established
in  the early stages of the energy technology development would greatly
reduce the amount of court litigation that would follow.  He drew a sharp
distinction between first and second generation gasification technologies.
He  stated that there were currently 10 gasification processes that were
ready for full-scale commercial development.  These processes are based
primarily on the first generation technology.  Specifically, the WESCO pro-
cess has received approval by the Federal Power Commission and the State
of  New Mexico.  The Environmental impact Statement is currently being pre-
pared.  Equipment specifications have been developed.  All that is needed
is  some form of Federal financial assistance that is now being worked out.
He  felt that EPA should establish emission standards based on the first
generation plants that are already designed.  A great deal of money has
already been spent by these 10 industrial developers.  They have paid care-
ful attention to environmental control technology.  EPA R&D programs could
not make significant new contributions to this effort.  However, the stan-
dards should not yet include second generation demonstration plants.
Instead, the EPA should wait until the wide variety of new demonstration
plants have been tested and their commercialization has been clearly
established.
     A brief case study of the WESCO design was then presented.  He stated
that the environmental standards for the specific site and specific design
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had been worked out with the State of New Mexico and that these were the
only existing standards for coal gasification plants (Figure 4).  In 1971,
the New Mexico Environmental Improvement Agency asked WESCO to assist them
with establishing reasonable standards.  Both groups drafted standards which,
after a public review, were redrafted and finally adopted by the Board in
1973.  They were subsequently accepted by WESCO which was then granted a
permit.  Excellent cooperation was achieved by both parties and the stan-
dards have not been contested by the strong environmental groups that exist
in New Mexico.
     The sulfur control system was then discussed in detail (Figure 5).
The net result is that the total gasification plant sulfur emissions amount
to only 0.7 percent of the sulfur in the total gasifier coal feedstock.
He stated that the single national standard concept for sulfur emissions
does not fit all situations.  New Mexico has emission standards 2-3 times
more stringent than the Federal regulations.  It is also important to con-
sider the number and diversity of gas streams.  In the case of WESCO there
are 13, which makes it particularly difficult to simplify to a single
regulation expressed as a point source concentration in parts per million.
He recommended that the regulations not be stated in parts per million.
They should include all sulfur species, including carbonyl sulfide.  The
emission standard should be related to the feedstock sulfur content and to
regional differences in sulfur content (Figure 6).
     The discussion after his talk made the following points:
     •  The design of the WESCO plant results in 70 Btu's output
        for every 100 Btu's of input of 70 percent efficiency in
        gas production.
     •  WESCO has been severely criticized for accepting the New
        Mexico regulations because of the precedent that it might
        set for higher sulfur coals in other regions.  Even though
        less stringent sulfur emissions were recommended for
        Eastern coals, they're still very much better than direct
        burning.
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                        Figure 4


            EMISSIONS VS. REGULATIONS
                         (SLIDE 2)
Gasifier Coal Heating Value
     =  (24,820)(2000)(8,325)
     =  413,253 x 105 BTU/day

Gasification Plant Sulfur Emissions
     =  0.08 + 1.23 -i- 0.21
     =  1.52 tons/day
     =  (1.52)(2000)/413,253
     =  0.0074 pounds/106 BTU  (New Mexico regulation = 0.0080)
Boiler Plant Coal Fines Heating Value
     =  (3,870)(2000)(10,040)
     =  77,710 x 106 BTU/day

Boiler Plant SOo Emissions (from coal-firing)
     =  (3.23)(2)
     =  6.46 tons/day
     =  (6.46)(2000)/77.710
     =  0.166 pounds/106 BTU   (New Mexico regulation =  0.340)
                               (Federal regulation    =  1.20)
Superheater Fuel Oil Heating Value
     =   (224)(20001(17,250)
     =   7,728 x 106 BTU/day

Superheater S02 Emissions (from oil-firing)
     =   (0.20)(2)
     =   0.40 tons/day
     =   (0.40)(2000)/7,728
     =   0.104 pounds/106 BTU   (New Mexico regulation =  0.340)
                               (Federal regulation    =  0.80)
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                          * DAILY EMISSIONS ON ANNUAL!ZED BASIS
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                            Figure 6


                    RECOMMENDATIONS
                            (SLIDE 3)
1 — Regulations should not be in terms of concentrations
     (i.e. ppm by volume).

2 — Regulations for gasification should not include auxiliary
     steam boilers and superheaters.  Burning of coal,  oil and
     gas in steam plants is covered by existing EPA regulations.

3 — The gasification plant regulations should include  all sulfur
     species from all vents and stacks (including annualized
     intermittent operations).

4 — Carbonyl sulfide emissions should not be "excused".

5 — Recommended wording for high-Btu gasification regulation:

    "THE TOTAL EMISSION OF ALL SULFUR SPECIES IN ALL VENTS AND
     STACKS FROM A COAL GASIFICATION PLANT (EXCLUDING ANY STEAM
     GENERATION FACILITIES) SHOULD NOT EXCEED 1.5 - 3.0 PERCENT
     OF THE SULFUR CONTAINED IN THE GASIFIER FEEDSTOCK  COAL"

     The 1.5 - 3.0% should be sub-categorized for regional
     differences in coal sulfur contents.  Thus, low-sulfur coals
     might be limited to 1.5% emission and high-sulfur  coals to
     3% emission.
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     •  The cost  for  all  environmental controls, both air and
        water,  has  been estimated  to be  $70-80 million  out of a
        total plant cost  of  $800 million,  approximately 10 per-
        cent of the cost.
     •  All solid residuals,  including trace  elements,  are planned
        to be returned to the strip mine pits during reclamation.
        There is  a  possibility of  leaching, which  is under study,
        but now real  problems are  expected.
General Discussion
     The general discussion  following  the  morning  session involved  the
following points:
     •  EPA regulations have not yet been  set for  fugitive dust
        emissions.  New Mexico has such  regulations for mining
        operations, but not  plant  operations  as  yet.
     •  The problems  of multiple  sources in close  geographic
        proximity is  the  states'  responsibility.   They  must
        develop their own standards  for  maintaining ambient
        air quality.   Department  of  the  Interior analyses of
        seven coal  gasification units  and  two major electric
        power plants  in close geographic proximity in New Mexico,
        processing  over 200,000 tons of  coal per day have clearly
        indicated that the SO , NO  and  particulates standards
                             X    X
        would not be  violated. There  are potential problems
        with hydrocarbons, but the WESCO design  has effectively
        dealt with  them.
     •  An ERDA representative felt that acceptable environmental
        control technology would  be developed along with the new
        energy production technology.   It is difficult  to  integrate
        outside agencies  in the process.  The EPA  role  is  not clear,
        and ERDA developers are suspicious of the  role  that EPA
        might play.  The development of control technology was
        felt to be an integral part of the process for the develop-
        ment of the primary energy technology.
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Afternoon  Session
     The afternoon  session was  introduced by  Dr.  Stephen Gage.   He stated
that the activities of  the Advanced Fossil Fuels  Sector Group were very
important, particularly in view of the continuing large demonstration
program and  recent  executive and  legislative proposals.  He referred to
the $11.5  billion incentives program designed to  spur early development
                                         *
of commercial-scale synthetic fuel plants , and to the $100 billion energy
independence program proposed by  the President, observing that a dynamic
Sector Group is required to keep  up with these various events.  The
Chairman for the afternoon was  Mr. Gerald Rausa who is in charge of health
effects planning at the Office  of Energy, Minerals and Industry.
     The first speaker was Mr.  Karl Bombaugh of the Radian Corporation.
He presented a systematic approach to the problem of characterizing the
emission potential  of energy conversion processes which they developed
for EPA.   He defines systems approach as "an engineering approach to analy-
tical chemistry".   Since there  are no commercial  coal conversion plants in
operation  in the United States, their approach was to extrapolate effects
from known emission streams and draw analogies.   They first defined the
expected stream composition from  the simile process and developed a modular
strategy for analysis that could be extrapolated  to the new stream.  An oil
refinery was selected as having emission streams most like those expected
from synthetic fuel processes.  Procedures that could be applied to the new
process as system modules were developed for collecting samples, preserving
them, and preparing them for analysis by spectrometry.  Each pollutant is
identified at the source or at  the point of highest concentration and then
traced downstream.  This strategy was preferred to one identifying traces
of compounds in either final gas streams or in the fugitive emissions where
they may be present at very low concentrations.
     There were no questions.
*Viewed as highly likely to be passed at that time, but which failed to pass
 the legislature.  It is still a strong indication of things to come in the
 future.
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     Dr. Max Samfield of the IERL/RTP Special Studies Staff discussed
individual pollutants, their sources, and the establishment of acceptable
levels (Figure 7).  He identified three primary questions to be addressed:
(1)  What are the pollutants of concern?  (2)  What are the pollution
sources of concern?  (3)  As a guide to control technology, to what level
must these pollutants be reduced to provide an adequate measure of safety
for the general public?  It was pointed out that this was a particularly
difficult task because of the many thousands of chemical compounds that
were potentially toxic.  They have used models for human respiration and
liquid ingestion to forecast pollutant levels in the body as a function of
exposure.  IERL intends to use the proposed model as a guide to the develop-
ment of control technology for pollutants for which no standards have been
set.
     Questions following his presentation brought out the following points:
     •  There is a list being compiled by RTF of Threshold Limit
        Values (TLV) for pollutants that are likely to be asso-
        ciated with the synthetic fuel processes.  It is not yet
        complete.
     •  IERL is presently developing a computerized list of
        pollutants of interest to IERL.  They are primarily
        interested in putting in mass spectra to assist in
        analytical work.
     •  Some pesticides are included in  the RTF list.  No claim
        is made that the RTF model works for carcinogenic or
        mutagenic  substances; they were  surprised at close agree-
        ment with  some  of these compounds.  The only comparison
        made was with proposed standards or those that have been
        set.
     Dr.  John Cleland of Research Triangle  Institute began his presentation
with a  lengthy list  of  synonyms  for  the  word  "prioritize."  He illustrated
that it is not clear  exactly what the word  means.  He  pointed out that there
were about 500 chemical compounds that have standards  set  for them.   How-
ever,  there are many thousands of substances  that  are  potentially toxic to
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                                  Figure  7
Biolorjical
 Testing
Observed or
 Calculated
 Biosphuric
   Efforts
Epidemiology
                              Development of
                                 Analytical
                                 Techniques
                               Establishment
                                of Pollutant
                                 Identity
                              Establishment of
                                  Control
                                   Limits
                                                          t
                                                          I
                                                          u.
                               Cost-benefit
                                 Analysis
                                    I
                                    I
                                    I
                                               i
                                             ..j
                              Development of
                                •  Control
                                Technology
                                  Controls
                                 Instituted
                                                               Development
                                                                of  Control
                                                                Monitoring
                                                                Instruments
                                Monitoring
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humans, and it can require approximately $500,000 and 1 3/4 man-years of
effort per substance to develop criteria upon which a standard can be
based (Figure 8).  It is therefore extremely important to prioritize the
pollutants to conserve research funds.   He presented a list of 27 factors
that could be used as criteria for prioritizing pollutants (Figure 9).
They were classified as being health-oriented, location-oriented, by type
of source and type of substance.  He pointed out that all methods for
prioritization use some level of judgment and opinion.  He compared three
different methods that had been used and observed that there was little
correlation among the resulting priority lists.  The most widely-used
method today is what he referred to as the "wise-man" approach, where a
group of knowledgeable researchers agree on the best strategy for toxicity
research.  He stated that RTI had catalogued 400 substances into a conve-
nient format.  When asked if enough data were available, he replied empha-
tically, "No."  There were no other questions.
     Dr. Murray Schulman of ERDA's Division of Biomedical and Environmental
Research (DBER) noted that the goal of biomedical and environmental research
programs in coal conversion is to evaluate processes and materials to deter-
mine potential biomedical/environmental problems and to communicate  the
results to cognizant managers of related environmental programs.  Two basic
"populations" are addressed—the industrial workers  subjected to chronic,
medium  level exposures of untransformed pollutants and the general public
which may be exposed  to lower levels of dispersed and possibly  transformed
effluents.
     Research for ensuring safety of industrial workers is both more  easily
implemented and  of  more immediate concern  than that  necessary to evaluate
potential  effects on  the  general  public and  the  environment,  because infor-
mation on  environmental transport and  transformation is not necessary.
Initially, acute effects  studies  must  be  conducted to determine carcinogenic
and  toxic  potential of  process,  products,  and effluent  materials.   These
tests  should  be  concerned with  determining the concentration of materials
necessary  to  produce  specific health  effects as well as the effect produced
by expected ambient concentrations.   Initial toxicological screening can
probably be done using  a  hierarchical  tier (composite materials, fractions,
 specific  compounds).
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                   FIGURE 8



             NUMBER OF SUBSTANCES








KNOWN                                3 X 106



ANNUAL ADDITION                     10*- 1Q5



TOXICITY INFORMATION                 1 X 105



TOXICITY LIMITS                     1*2 X 10*



STANDARDS                            5 X 10*








$500,000 + 13A MANYEARS/SUBSTANCE
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                   FIGURE 9
            PRIQRITIZATIQN FACTORS
HEALTH ORIENTED

CARCINOGENCITY
TOXIC ITY, HAZARD
SEVERITY OF EFFECT
DISEASE LIKELIHOOD
FIRE, EXPLOSION, ETC,
STANDARDS, LIMITS
SOURCE ORIENTED

RAW MATERIALS, PRODUCTS
HAZARDOUS MATERIALS
CAPACITIES
EFFLUENT MEDIA
EMISSION HEIGHTS
MEASURED EMISSION RATES
MEDICAL RECORDS
GROWTH
LOCATION ORIENTED

POPULATION DENSITY
SOURCE—POPULATION DISTANCE
BACKGROUND CONCENTRATIONS
MEASURED CONCENTRATIONS
TOPOGRAPHY, METEOROLOGY
WATER USE
MEDICAL RECORDS
GROWTH

SUBSTANCE ORIENTED

PERSISTANCE
MOBILITY
SOLUBILITY
DECAY
OTHER CHEMICAL-
  PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
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      The main  known hazard  for  personnel  involved directly in coal conver-
 sion  is exposure  to carcinogenic  polyaromatic hydrocarbons (PAH).  However,
 there are  a number of other materials,  including phenols, organosulfur
 compounds, and others to which  such  personnel may be exposed.  Little is
 known about the long-term effects of chronic medium level exposure to the
 complex organic mixtures produced during  coal conversion processes.  Thus,
 both  rapid screening tests, longer term tests, and quantitative dose-effect
 determinations will be required to assure  that industrial personnel are not
 being exposed  to  undue hazards.   As  long  as coal conversion is in the pilot
 plant stage the number of exposed individuals will be too small to allow
 detection  of any  but the most obvious and  ubiquitous effects, but medical
 surveillance and  epidemiological  studies with personnel involved in estab-
 lished fossil  fuel processes may  give valuable information.
      While research related to  the health  of coal conversion workers is
 the most immediate need, it may not  answer the questions affecting the
 ultimate acceptability of the coal conversion technologies.  The biomedical
 and environmental research which  may be most important centers on the
 effects of chronic exposures of large segments of the population and general
 environment to low level effluent concentrations.  Biomedical and environ-
 mental research needed to evaluate these  risks requires a long leadtime
 and cannot be  forced easily into  the short-term time constraints necessary
 for quick technology development.  Such research will follow some of the
 classical pathways initiated in evaluating potential radiation effects,
 but is more complex, in that analytical capabilities are less well under-
 stood and biological transformation  products exist.  In particular, the
 synthetic crude oil produced by coal conversion has a considerably higher
 concentration  of PAH's than does  natural crude oil.  Such materials repre-
 sent a potential hazard, since there is some indication from work with lower
 organisms that  they may not only be carcinogenic but mutagenic as well.
     The key elements of research will be:  (1)  rapid in vitro and in vivo
bioassay to identify agents capable of producing carcinogenic, mutagenic,
 teratogenic or pathophysiological  effects; (2)  determination of the uptake,
 trans location,  deposition,  or  excretion and enzymatic modification of
chemical agents identified  as  toxigenic; (3)   quantitation of risk estimate
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for carcinogenic, tnutagenic, teratogenic,  and pathophysiological effects in
model short-lived experimental animals;  (4)  acquisition and analysis of
all human information relevant to metabolism and effects of fossil energy-
related chemical agents, and (5)  development of theoretical and animal
models to insure the extrapolation of the animal information to man.  It
may be expected that much of this research will be applicable to the esti-
mation of health hazards for industrial workers and to the general public
including the development of tests for identifying and quantitatively
evaluating hazards, analysis of damage-producing mechanisms, and studies
of how biological systems may repair or recover from the damage.  Since it
is not economically or scientifically feasible to evaluate the pollutants
emitted from every coal conversion process, some research must be directed
toward developing classification techniques whereby similar materials
(e.g., PAH) may be grouped  for testing.
     Dr. Robert G. Tardlff  of EPA's Health Effects Research Laboratory in
Cincinnati discussed problems of organic compounds in drinking water.  The
priority system  they have developed is sufficiently general to apply  to
pollutants from  several different sources and  several different routes of
exposure.  He suggested three different classes of factors  that were  impor-
tant in prioritization--chemical, human  (i.e.,  the population-at-risk) and
response  (or toxicity)  factors--and defined  them in detail.
     •  Chemical  factors deal with the identification of  the kinds
        of materials to which people are exposed,  their bioaccumu-
        lation potential measured by their  liquid  solubility,  their
        structural  class as a predictor of  possible biological
        responses, obligatory contaminents, chemical stability in dif-
        ferent media.   Other chemical  factors  include  those relating
        to the manufacture, use,  and disposal  of chemicals.
      •  Human  factors  were  those  of  concentration  (the  total number
        of people exposed), exposure intensity (the  integrated
        amount  by the  various  routes of  exposure), chronic exposures,
        and  special problems raised  by pulsed  exposures,  and the
        duration of the exposure  (the  total time and the point of
         life,  e.g., fetal,  geriatric,  etc., in which the individual
         is  exposed).
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     •  Human response or toxicity data are the compounds'
        structure and activity relationships, their metabolites,
        micro-molecular bindings and the effects resulting
        from the use of biological screens, maintenance of
        toxicity files, and professional observations.  Analy-
        sis of these factors suggested criteria for further
        testing.  He observed that it is difficult to weigh
        the relative importance of different classes of cri-
        teria, and in the final analysis, best professional
        judgments by experts were used to define final research
        priorities.
General Discussion
     The following points were made in the discussion that followed the
afternoon presentations.
     •  It is still  not clear how industry will be affected by
        the EPA and  ERDA  R&D program structures.  The Standards
        Programs have specific legal requirements, and their
        philosophies are  structured accordingly.  It is not
        clear to the majority of people  outside of EPA how the
        R&D program  is  related to the standard-setting process.
        There is absolutely  no evidence  of a working communi-
        cations system.
     •  There is too much subjective  internal debate, little
        communication between EPA and ERDA, and it is impor-
        tant to make these links  much more direct.
     •  There has  been  too much  emphasis  on the  adversary
        approach which  tends to  cloud any clear  understanding
        of  the  technical  issues,
     •   The  presentations  by representatives  of  the  Standards
        Program gave no requirements  for  the  R&D program.
     •   Mr.  Beychok's talk illustrated the  benefits  of main-
        taining a dialogue with open  and  early communication
        between a company  and  the  State in  which it  is located
        in setting standards.
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•  If best control technology currently available were
   applied, without emphasis on characterization of  pollu-
   tants, how serious would the consequences be?  Control
   technologies will go on and will do just what has been
   suggested—apply the current state-of-the-art. The
   challenge for the health and the control technology
   people is to find ways of decreasing cost.  Total
   removal of all pollutants would be too costly.
•  The seriousness of fugitive emissions of pollutants
   from accidents should be studied in the R&D program.
•  It is very important to characterize the pollutants  in
   emission streams from actual commercial-sized plants
   as soon as possible.  The development of control  strat-
   egies  for individual pollutants is premature without
   a good knowledge of the extent to which that pollutant
   will occur in the emission streams.  Early definitions
   of when and what control are very important.
•  Concern was expressed that so much time is being spent
   prioritizing pollutants when they have not yet been
   identified.  Control criteria should be applied to
   specific systems and not in general.  What is the use
   of these lists?  More emphasis should be put  on what
   these  compounds are, analyzing them, building process
   development units to simulate the kind of emissions
   coal gasification will produce and find out what the
   real problems are.  No one appears to be doing this.
•  In response to  these concerns about  the need  for inter-
   agency communication, it was asserted that a  great deal
   of communication  is taking place.  An interagency meet-
   ing with regard to energy-related health  effects studies
   is in  the planning  stages now.
 i  With regard to  carcinogen policy, Dr. Albert, Deputy
   Assistant Administrator for Health and Ecological Effects,
   has been assigned responsibility for developing  EPA's  policy.
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 Standards  (regulations)  are  not  simply based  on  techni-
 cal  data but  are  essentially socially developed  and  the
 technical  data  base  is only  a component  of  that  .
 The  question  was  raised  as to when new source  standards
 will be set for Lurgi-type processes.  What stages are
 they in now?  It  was  stated  by Mr. Durham that EPA's
 Emission and  Standards Division  is in the preliminary
 stages of  standard development for coal  gasification
 plants and that the  current  schedule calls  for a first
 draft of a Standard  Support  Environmental Impact Statement
 to be put  out lor general industry comment  this  spring.
 The  procedure for developing new source  standards was
 explained.  First, information is obtained  by the author-
 ity  of the Clean  Air Act through formal  information
 requests,  visiting the people  concerned.  Then a tech-
 nical document  is put together summarizing what  can be
 done today, the costs—environmental and economic — the
 projected  achievable emission  levels, and the standards
 recommended as  a  result.  This is all printed in a
 "Standard  Support Environmental  Impact Statement" which
 is distributed  to interested parties.  It is then
 reviewed by an  open national committee,  the National
Air  Pollution Control Techniques Advisory Committee,
which all  interested parties are invited to attend.
Comments received are then analyzed to determine what,
 if any, changes are necessary.   In many  cases new
information must be gathered.  Once it is felt that
all  the issues  are in hand,   it is published in the
Federal Register as a proposed standard.   It is  not
an arbitrary process.
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Meeting Recommendations
     The meeting chairman, Dr. Foley, reiterated that the primary purpose
of the meeting was to obtain recommendations on what the EPA R&D program
should be doing.  He stated that the meeting minutes would be analyzed to
extract indirect recommendations, but he asked for direct recommendations.
This invitation was responded to with the following points.
     •  It is important to point out the population-at-risk in
        any pollutant prioritization method.
     •  It is important to establish the degree of relevancy
        in research tasks, to separate that which is of purely
        academic interest from that which is truly useful
        input to the standards-setting process.
     •  It is important to gain access to operating Lurgi
        plants  to find out what the emissions actually are.
        Commercial plants currently operational are in foreign
        countries, particularly South Africa and Poland.  These
        plants  are at  a smaller scale than  commercial plants
        proposed for the United States, and it is very difficult
        to gain access to operational data.  There are problems
        making  the necessary  political arrangements.
     •  It is important to specify  specifically how  the  research
        and  development program  should be  involved in the
        standard-setting  process.  Working relationships must
        be improved.
     • The  analytical strategy  developed  for  coal gasification
                                      *
        was  based  on  the  third  report  of  the  Radian Corporation
         study and  on  addressing  the variety of gasification
         sources and clean-up systems, taking the  composition
         of  the  gas streams  and  probable  composition  of  all of
         the  water  streams from data reported to  EPA.
  K. J. Bombaugh, et al., "Sampling and Analytical Strategies for
  Compounds in Petroleum Refinery Streams," EPA Report No. 68-02-
  1882, September 15, 1975.
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     •  It is clear that EPA does not have samples and must
        have them.  EPA will be happy to take samples and run
        emission tests at any plant which is made available
        to them.
     •  It is important to document the results of this meeting
        and to specify how these results are used in the next
        meeting.
     The general meeting was adjourned and the Executive Committee con-
vened to summarize the major points and draw conclusions for the R&D
program.
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                                      AGENDA
                          ADVANCED FOSSIL FUELS MEETING
                      Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
                               November 13, 1975
 8:00    Registration  and  Coffee
 9:00    Opening  Remarks


 9:15    How We Got  To Where We Are
 9:45    Introduction,  R&D  Strategies  for
           Control Technology

10:00    Federal Regulation of  Atmospheric
           Emissions from Advanced  Fossil
           Fuel Conversion  Facilities


10:20    Water Standards


10:40    EPA Environmental  Assessment  and
           Control Technology Program


11:00    ERDA Control Technology


11:20    Industrial Approaches  to Control
           Technology

12:30    Lunch
 1:40    Introduction,  Pollutant Priorities


 1:40    A System Approach to  the Problem
           of Characterizing the Emission
           Potential of Energy  Conversion
           Processes

 1:55    Estimation of Permissible Pollutant
           Concentrations for  Air and  Drinking
           Water

 2:10    Factors to be Considered in Priori-
           tization of Pollutants

 2:25    The ERDA Approach to Prioritizing
           Pollutants
                                                                Speaker
John Burchard, EPA, Director,
  Industrial Environmental
  Research Laboratory

Gary J. Foley, Chairman
  EPA-Office of Energy, Minerals,
  and Industry

Gary J. Foley, Chairman


James F. Durham, Chief, Performance
  Standards Section, Emission
  Standards and Engineering
  Division, EPA-RTP

Harold Coughlin, EPA-Effluent
  Guidelines Division

Robert Hangebrauck and Kelly
  Janes, EPA-Industrial Environ-
  mental Research Laboratory

Myron Gottlieb, ERDA-Environ-
  mental and Safety Research

Milton Beychok, Consulting
  Engineer
Gerald Rausa, EPA-Office of
  Energy, Minerals and Industry
Karl J. Bombaugh, Radian
  Corporation
Max Samfield, EPA-Industrial
  Environmental Research Laboratory
 John  Cleland,  Research Triangle
   Institute
 Murray Schulman,  ERDA-Division
   of  Biomedical and Environmental
   Research
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                             ATTACHMENT I (Continued)
2:40    Screening Prioritization
          Strategies
3:00    Discussion

4:00    Summary

4:15    Adjourn

4:30    Executive Committee Meeting

5:00    Adjourn
      Speaker

Robert G. Tardiff, Chief,
  Organic Contaminants
  Branch, Water Quality
  Division, Health Effects
  Research Laboratory,
  EPA-Cincinnati
Gary J. Foley, Chairman
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                             ATTACHMENT II
                           LIST OF ATTENDEES
                     ADVANCED FOSSIL FUELS MEETING
                 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
                          November 13, 1975
John H. Abrahams
Energy Research & Development
  Administration
20 Massachusetts Avenue
Washington, DC  20545

Milton R. Beychok
17709 Oak Tree Lane
Irvine, CA  92715

Julie F. Bishop
Stanford Research Institute
1611 N. Kent Street
Arlington, VA  22209

Karl J. Bombaugh
Radian Corporation
8500 Shoal Creek Blvd.
Austin, TX

Paul E. Brubaker
Greenfield, Attaway ,& Tyler, Inc.
Chief, Pathophysiology
98  Larkspur St.
San Rafael, CA

John K. Burchard
Director,  Industrial Environmental
  Research Laboratory  (MD-60)
Environmental  Protection Agency
Research Triangle  Park, NC  27711

John G. Cleland
Research Triangle  Institute
Research Triangle  Park, NC  27709

Harold Coughlin
EPA,  Office of Water  Planning &
   Standards
401 M Street,  S.W. (WH-452)
Room  913,  East Tower
Washington, DC  20460
Ronald L. Dickenson
Stanford Research Institute
333 Ravenswood Avenue
Menlo Park, CA  94025

James F. Durham
EPA, Office of Air Quality
  Planning & Standards (MD-13)
Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

Henry F. Enos
Deputy Director
Environmental Protection Agency
Athens, GA

George Erskine
MITRE Corporation
1820 Dolley Madison  Blvd.
McLean, VA  22101

Gary J.  Foley
EPA, Office of  Energy, Minerals
  ft Industry
Waterside Mall,  RD-681
Washington, DC   20460

R.  John Garner
EPA Health Effects  Research Laboratory
Cincinnati,  OH  45268

Myron Gottlieb
ERDA, Environment & Safety Research
Washington,  DC  20545

Robert  P.  Hangebrauck
EPA,  Industrial Environmental
   Research Laboratory (MD-61)
Research Triangle Park,  NC  27711

 Gerald  Ho Hind en
Tennessee Valley Authority
 503 Power Bldg
 Chattanooga, TO  37401
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                       ATTACHMENT  II  (Continued)
 Charles W.  Hulburt
 Stanford Research Institute
 1611  N. Kent  Street
 Arlington,  VA  22209

 T.  Kelly Janes
 EPA,  Industrial Environmental
  Research  Laboratory  (MD-61)
 Research Triangle Park, NC   27711

 James C. Johnson
 EPA,  OEMI,  Energy Processes  Division
 401 M Street, S.W.
 Room  639, West  Tower  (RD-681)
 Washington, DC  20460

 John  E. Johnston
 U.S.  Geological Survey
 National Center Stop 956
 Reston, VA  22092

 james C. Jones
 Director, Environmental Quality
 Peabody Coal
 301 N. Memorial Drive
 St. Louis, MO  63102

 John  H. Knelson
 EPA,  Health Effects Research
  Laboratory
 Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

 Kathleen Kozey
 U.S.  Geological Survey
 Reston, VA  22092

William N. McCarthy, Jr.
 EPA,  OEMI, Energy Processes Division
 401 M Street, S.W. (RD-681)
 Room  639, West  Tower
Washington, DC  20460

 Rayburn Morrison
 EPA,  Office of Quality Planning &
  Standards, SASD
Research Triangle Park, NC  27711
                         Jim Mulvihill
                         ERDA
                         4800 Forbes Avenue
                         Pittsburgh, PA   15213

                         William E. Pepelko
                         EPA, Health Effects Research
                          Laboratory
                         Cincinnati, OH   45268

                         Frank Princiotta
                         Acting Director
                         EPA Energy Processes Division
                         Washington, DC   20460

                         Gerald Rausa
                         EPA, Environmental Science
                         Washington, DC   20460

                         Robert H. Rea
                         Resource Planning Associates, Inc,
                         44  Brattle Street
                         Cambridge, MA  02138

                         Max Samfield
                         EPA, Industrial  Environmental
                          Research Laboratory  (MD-63)
                         Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

                         Frank C. Schora, Jr.
                         Vice-President,  Process Research
                         Institute of Gas Technology
                         3424 South State Street
                         Chicago, IL  60606

                         Murray Schulman
                         ERDA, Division of Biomedical &
                          Environmental Research
                        Washington, DC  20545

                         Lowell Smith
                         EPA, OEMI
                        Washington, DC  20460
 New address:
Office of Environment and Safety, ERDA, Fossil Energy,
20 Massachusetts Ave., N.W., Washington, DC  20545
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                      ATTACHMENT II (Continued)

John 0. Strakey
ERDA, Pittsburgh Energy Research
  Center
4800 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA  152L3

Mark J. Stutsman
EPA, Industrial Environmental
  Research Laboratory (MD-61)
Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

John Talty
National Institute for Occupational
  Safety & Health
Chief, Engineering Branch
1014 Broadway
Cincinnati, OH  45202

Lloyd T. Taylor
EPA, Science Advisory Board Staff
401 M Street
Washington, DC  20460

Edythalena A. Tompkins
EPA, Health Effects Research
  Laboratory
Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

Cene Tucker
EPA, Industrial Environmental Research
  Laboratory (MD-63)
Research Triangle Park, NC  27711

Kurt Yeager
Program Manager,
Environmental Control
Electric Power Research Institute
P.O. Box 94303
Palo Alto, CA  94303
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                                  TECHNICAL REPORT DATA
                           (Please read Instructions on the reverse before completing)
 REPORT NO.
   EPA-600/9-76-006
                             2.
                                                          3. RECIPIENT'S ACCESSION-NO.
 TITLE AND SUBTITLE
 Meeting Report: Advanced Fossil Fuels Sector Group,
 Research Triangle  Park,  13  November 1975
                                                          5. REPORT DATE
              February  1976
             i. PERFORMING ORGANIZATION CODE
 AUTHOR(S)

   N/A
                                                          8. PERFORMING ORGANIZATION REPORT NO.
 PERFORMING ORGANIZATION NAME AND ADDRESS

 Stanford Research  Institute
 1611 North Kent  Street,  Rosslyn Plaza
 Arlington, Virginia 22209
                                                          10. PROGRAM ELEMENT NO.
             11. CONTRACT/GRANT NO.
              68-01-2940
              Task  026
 2. SPONSORING AGENCY NAME AND ADDRESS
  Office of Energy,  Minerals, & Industry
  U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
  Washington,  D.C.  20460
      OF-
  	es/_
Sector Group
             13,.TYP
             Minu
   .
eeting
             14. SPONSORING AGENCY CODE
                                     Nov.
15 SUPPLEMENTARY NOTES
 EPA Contacts:   Dr.  Gary Foley --  (202)  755-0207
                 Mr.  William McCarthy  --  (202)  755-0635
16. ABSTRACT
      The minutes  of the second Advanced  Fossil Fuels Sector Group  Meeting cover
  the content  of  the presentations which were made as well as the  discussion which
  followed.  Two  general areas of concern  were addressed:

       (1)  R&D strategies for control  technology and the relationships of control
  technology R&D  to development of standards and in respect to  impact on industry.

       (2)  Pollutant prioritization  and  the relationship of characterization and
  prioritization  to control technology, standards and the impact on  other government
  agencies and industry.

  These  areas  of  concern were considered  in the context of current control technology
  versus that  which may be required in  the future, in particular as  it relates to
  coal  gasification and liquefaction.
17.
                               KEY WORDS AND DOCUMENT ANALYSIS
                  DESCRIPTORS
b.lDENTIFIERS/OPEN ENDED TERMS
  COSATI Field/Group
  Coal gasification
  Coal liquefaction
  Environmental control  technology
  Pollutant prioritization
  Pollutant characterization
  Water standards
  Air standards
 Environmental standards
 Control technology
 Pollutants
13. DISTRIBUTION STATEMENT

    Release unlimited
19. SECURITY CLASS (This Report)
  Unclassified
21. NO. OF PAGES
   46
20. SECURITY CLASS (This page)
  Unclassified
                                                                         22. PRICE
EPA Form 2220-1 (9-73)
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