Federal Advisory Committee Act

Clean Air Act Advisory Committee

Virtual Meeting via Microsoft Teams
December 14, 2022

Welcome & Opening Remarks

Ms. Lorraine Reddick, the Designated Federal Official, opened the meeting and welcomed the
attendees. Mr. John Shoaff then reviewed the agenda, which is displayed below, and also
welcomed everyone to the meeting. A list of attendees is provided in Attachment 1. Materials
associated with this virtual meeting are available online at EPA's CAAAC website
(https://www.epa.gov/caaac).

Virtual Meeting Agenda

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Topic

Presenter

1:00pm - 1:05pm

Introductions and
welcome

John Shoaff and Lorraine Reddick
EPA Office of Air Policy and Program Support

1:05pm - 1:20pm

Opening Remarks &
Recent OAR Highlights

Joe Goffman,

Principal Deputy Assistant Administrator,
EPA Office of Air and Radiation (OAR)

1:20pm - 1:35pm

IRA Air Programs brief
overview

Jennifer Macedonia,

Associate Deputy Assistant Administrator for
Implementation, OAR

1:35pm - 2:25pm

CAAAC discussion &
feedback

CAAAC

2:25pm - 2:30pm

Public Comment, Next
Steps & Close Meeting

John Shoaff and Lorraine Reddick
EPA Office of Air Policy and Program Support

Opening Remarks and Recent OAR Highlights - Joe Goffman, EPA OAR

Mr. Goffman provided a brief update on what OAR has been working on since the last CAAAC
meeting. He stated that one highlight is that they have developed a supplemental proposal for the
reduction of methane emissions from oil and gas operations, noting that the standards included in
the supplemental proposal will reduce emissions by more than what had previously been
proposed. For the Clean School Bus program, they have issued $1 billion in rebates to school
districts to buy cleaner school buses. Most of the approximately 2,300 school buses that will be

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funded are electric vehicles, and about 400 school districts received funding to buy these
vehicles. He also mentioned that they are endeavoring to issue a final action in the next week on
NOx standards for model year 2027+ heavy-duty (HD) vehicles.

Discussion

Ms. Shannon Broome asked whether there had been any actions relative to California and its
authority to regulate the non-road sector. Mr. Goffman responded that the HD NOx rule should
help California with its emission reduction goals, since 50% of the HD traffic in California is
from out-of-state vehicles. They are also putting together the inaugural stages of prospective
tighter locomotive standards, as well as considering whether states should be able to create their
own standards for non-road diesel vehicles, such as locomotives. He also mentioned that the next
round of funding from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) may be able to be used for non-road
vehicles, particularly for ports.

Ms. Vicky Sullivan asked whether the EPA was still anticipating a March 2023 proposal for
GHG emissions from power plants. Mr. Goffman replied that they are expecting the standards to
be proposed for both new and existing power plants in March of 2023.

Ms. Mary Peveto asked where the EPA stands on the California waiver for medium and HD
trucks. Mr. Goffman responded that they are making progress on considering three pending
waivers.

Presentation: Inflation Reduction Act Overview - Jennifer Macedonia, EPA
OAR

Ms. Macedonia provided an overview of the IRA overall and the OAR programs being funded
through the IRA. She explained that one of the components of the IRA is to provide for
investments in clean energy and pollution reduction, and this is expected to reduce U.S. GHG
emissions by 40% by 2030. The EPA has received $41.5 billion in appropriated funds, and OAR
has received almost $11 billion of this to administer. The OAR programs that will be funded
include climate pollution reduction grants ($5 billion), mobile source programs ($4,065 billion),
a methane emissions reduction program ($1.55 billion), and community air pollution reduction
activities ($280.5 million).

For the climate pollution reduction grants, states, air pollution control agencies, municipalities,
and tribes will be eligible to apply. Separate awards will be given for developing GHG reduction
plans and for implementing the plans developed under the planning grants. Under the mobile
source programs, there is a program for clean HD vehicles, in which states, municipalities,
tribes, and nonprofit school transportation associations will be eligible to apply for funding to
help cover the cost of replacing dirty HD vehicles with zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs), costs for
ZEV infrastructure, and ZEV workforce training. Also under the mobile source programs, there
will be grants to reduce air pollution at ports. Port authorities, agencies with jurisdiction over a
port authority, air pollution control agencies, and entities that apply with one of these agencies

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and that own, operate, or use the port facilities or equipment will be eligible for funding to
purchase and install zero-emission port equipment, conduct planning for zero-emission port
equipment, or to develop port climate action plans. For methane reduction, governments,
educational institutions, nonprofits, businesses, and individuals will be eligible to apply for
funding to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas operations and to mitigate methane
emissions from marginal conventional oil and gas wells. To address community air pollution,
there is funding for fenceline monitoring, multipollutant monitoring, methane monitoring,
monitoring or testing for emissions from wood heaters, and installation of air quality sensors in
low income and disadvantaged communities. For multipollutant monitoring and methane
monitoring, air pollution control agencies will be eligible to apply for this funding. For fenceline
monitoring and air quality sensors in low-income and disadvantaged communities, air pollution
control agencies and other public or private non-profit organizations will be eligible to apply for
this funding. For clean air act grants to address community air pollution, air pollution control
agencies will be eligible to apply for funding for clean air act research and development. Eligible
entities for wood heaters emissions monitoring/testing are still being determined. Funding will
also be available to address air pollution at schools. Funding will be available to state, local, and
tribal agencies, non-profit organizations, and others to address environmental issues at schools,
develop school environmental quality plans, and provide technical assistance to schools in low
income and disadvantaged communities. In addition to these opportunities, there will also be
funding for the Low Emissions Electricity Program, implementation of the AIM Act, improving
GHG corporate reporting, diesel emissions reduction from goods movement facilities,
investments in advanced biofuels, and implementation of California's GHG and zero emission
standards for mobile sources in other states.

Discussion

Ms. Mary Peveto asked how they will fight the $52 billion of additional highway funding that
was also given out, considering that highway vehicles are the biggest source of GHGs and air
pollution. Ms. Macedonia acknowledged this concern and noted that the EPA is engaging in
conversations with other agencies about decarbonizing the transportation sector.

Mr. Gary Jones asked how the funding could be used to help small businesses reduce emissions.
He remarked that many small businesses, such as printing companies, are located in urban areas
and in environmental justice (EJ) communities. He suggested that one idea would be to provide
them with funding to replace natural gas-based HVAC systems with heat pumps, which would
improve local air quality and overall GHG emissions. Mr. Jones also commented that there
should be a single place for an entity to go to for information on all of the funding opportunities
available, which would explain who was eligible and how the funds could be used. Ms.
Macedonia agreed that coordination between the implementing agencies is needed and noted that
a guidebook will be coming out that will provide information on the full suite of IRA provisions.
She also agreed that having small businesses implement things like HVAC replacement could
potentially meet one or more goals of the IRA and may be eligible under some programs.

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Natalene Cummings commented that tribes are often small and need funding to hire someone to
help implement programs they get funding for. She suggested that it would be helpful if there
could be funding under the implementation phases of the IRA programs to hire staff to
administer programs or to have one staff member implement or provide assistance for several
groups to implement their programs. For instance, one staff member at the state could provide
assistance to several Tribes within that state. She also suggested that there could be a distinct
Tribal program under the IRA.

Mr. Dan Nickey commented that the existing small business environmental assistance programs
(SBEAPs) could be a great source of technical assistance, if they were given funding to provide
that assistance. He noted that they are currently funded through Title V fees, which have been
dwindling because the fees are emissions-based, and emissions have been decreasing.

Mr. Rayan Makaram remarked that he hopes EJ communities will be prioritized for funding, that
the funding will be used to update laws and regulations, and that the funding will be used to
accelerate the electrification of HD vehicles.

Ms. Peveto stated that there is a need to incentivize cleaning up older diesel vehicles as well as
electrification because it will take longer to get a substantial number of EVs in the fleet. She also
hopes that Diesel Emissions Reduction Act (DERA) funding will continue to be available,
especially for the non-road sector. She noted that most funding is for onroad vehicles, but those
vehicles are becoming a smaller part of the problem.

Ms. Adreinne Hollis asked whether funding will be given directly to EJ communities or to others
who say they will help EJ communities. Ms. Macedonia responded that it would depend on the
program. She noted that the Office of Environmental Justice (OEJ) has its own funding that will
go to EJ communities, and OAR is working with OEJ to ensure the best routes to emissions
reductions are made.

Ms. Peveto asked how the EPA is working to accelerate the cleanup of airport emissions of lead
and GHGs, noting that in the context of "ports" airports are often not prioritized. Ms. Macedonia
replied that the EPA is considering the definition of "ports" for the purposes of the IRA and what
types of ports would be eligible for funding. Mr. Mike Moltzen added that the EPA's Office of
Transportation and Air Quality (OTAQ) is working on an analysis of lead from airports. Mr.
Nickey and Mr. Rayan added that in the "ports" definition, the EPA should also consider
whether to include inland ports.

Mr. Nickey asked whether the methane reduction program was just for oil and gas operations or
for anything emitting methane. Ms. Macedonia responded that it is just for oil and gas
operations. Mr. Rayan followed up to ask whether the funding would only apply to active wells.
Mr. Mark DeFigueroa responded that Mr. Rayan may be confusing this funding with the
requirements of the recent oil and gas new source performance standards supplemental proposal.
Mr. Rayan observed that there are many programs regarding oil and gas operations, and he hopes

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that the EPA and other agencies are coordinating efforts. Ms. Macedonia noted that the IRA and
the EPA regulatory programs are integrated.

One attendee noted that there is an organization of retired EPA employees that could be called
upon to provide the technical assistance support called for by the IRA for these programs.

Ms. Peveto commented that the EPA's grant process has improved in having communities be
directly involved in the programs that are for the benefit of their community, such as with the
recent monitoring grants.

Mr. Rayam asked how the EPA can use data collected from community monitors in an
enforceable manner. He hopes that the new funding can be used to help make it possible to use
this data for that purpose. He also emphasized that the funds should be distributed to where they
are needed most, especially to EJ communities.

Mr. Bob Hodanbosi asked whether there had been any requests for additional time to submit
comments on the IRA. Ms. Macedonia replied that she is aware of one request, but she does not
know if the date for submitting comments will be extended.

Ms. Macedonia thanked everyone for their input.

Closing Remarks

Mr. Shoaff asked if there were any additional comments from the public, and there were none.
He then noted that the comment period on the EPA's request for information regarding the IRA
is open until January 18, 2023.

Ms. Reddick provided a few updates to the committee regarding the next CAAAC meeting. She
noted that the next meeting is planned to be in-person or hybrid and that the Clean Air
Excellence Awards ceremony will also take place along with that meeting. She also asked that
members keep her informed of any contact information changes or changes in work status. Ms.
Reddick then thanked everyone for attending and adjourned the meeting.

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Attachment 1

( AAAC Virtual Meeting Attendance List1

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William Bahnfleth

Penn State University

Shannon Broome

Hunton Andrews Kurth

Natalene Cummings

Forest County Potawatomi Community, Natural



Resources Department

Veronica Figueroa

Mosaic Fertilizer

Gail Good

Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources

Sara Hayes

American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy

Robert Hodanbosi

Ohio Environmental Protection Agency

Adrienne Hollis

Union of Concerned Scientists

Sara Hayes

American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy

Tim Hunt

American Forest and Paper Association & American



Wood Council

Gary Jones

Specialty Graphic Imaging Association Foundation

Miles Keogh

National Association of Clean Air Agencies

Beto Lugo-Martinez

Clean Air Now

Bob Meyers

Crowell and Moring

Dan Nickey



Mary Peveto

Neighbors for Clean Air

Kim Scarborough

Public Service Electric and Gas

Max Sherman

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

Vicky Sullivan

Duke Energy

Tim Wallington

Ford Motor Company

Bob Wyman

National Climate Coalition

Contractor Support

Lesley Stobert

SC&A, Inc.

Other Attendees

Anna Benkeser

Kristen Benedict

Megan Brachtl

Alice Chang

Pat Childers

Mark DeFigueiredo

Joseph Goffman

Alex Guillen

Hayden Hashimoto

1 This list of meeting attendees is not comprehensive due to a number of unidentified call-in participants.

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	(AAAC Virtual Meeting Attendance List1

Jennifer Hijazi
John Kinsman
Suzanne Kocchi
Jennifer Macedonia
Rayan Makarem
Mike Moltzen
Edward Monachino
Dickie Morgan
Ruth Morgan
Stuart Parker
Lorraine Reddick
Sean Reilly
John Shoaff
Ashley Thompson
Todd Warshawsky
Linda Wilson

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